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  1.  
  2. From owner-amigapl  Mon Mar  9 15:13:25 1998
  3. Received: from www.kki.net.pl (www.kki.net.pl [195.116.9.70]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA16162 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 14:45:42 +0100 (MET)
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  6.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 14:44:24 +0100
  7. From: Karol Bryd <kbryd@kki.net.pl>
  8. To: amigapl@amiga.com.pl
  9. Date: Mon, 09 Mar 1998 14:42:46 +0200
  10. Message-ID: <yam7372.2312.5578512@kki.net.pl>
  11. X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview3 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
  12. Organization: BlaBla
  13. Subject: Konwersja miedzy...
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  16.  
  17. Czesc !
  18.  
  19. Bardzo potrzebuje programu, ktory konwertuje inkludy w C
  20. z SAS'owego pragmas na Maxonowe amicall.
  21. Wszystkie programy jakie mam konwertuja tylko pliki fd
  22. na dowolny inny format a mi niestety jest potrzebna
  23. inna konwersja. Jezeli ktos ma namiary na taki program
  24. to *bardzo prosze* o kontakt !
  25.  
  26. Ew. jezeli takiego programu nie ma to moze chociaz ktos
  27. zna format w jakim kodowane sa rejestry w plikach pragma ?
  28. (np: #pragma libcall SysBase BlaBla BA83C
  29.                                     ^^^^^
  30.                                 chodzi mi o to)
  31. W takim razie sam taki programik napisze...
  32.  
  33. -- 
  34. Karol Bryd       |   http://www.gliwice.pl/~thufor  |  // Team *AMIGA*
  35. kbryd@kki.net.pl |Author of util/time/2b_DailyUP.lha|\X/  & BLABLA Member
  36.  
  37. We can embody the truth, but we cannot know it.  -- Yates
  38.  
  39. From owner-amigapl  Mon Mar  9 15:43:08 1998
  40. Received: from rose.man.poznan.pl (root@rose.man.poznan.pl [150.254.173.3]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA16473 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 15:42:07 +0100 (MET)
  41. Received: from buteo.man.bialystok.pl (buteo.man.bialystok.pl [194.181.132.1])
  42.     by rose.man.poznan.pl (8.8.5/8.8.5/bspm1.13+rchk1.20) with SMTP id PAA28443
  43.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 15:40:25 +0100 (MET)
  44. Received: from cksr.ac.bialystok.pl  by buteo.man.bialystok.pl  (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4)
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  48. Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 15:38:40 +0100 (MET)
  49. From: "Marcin Juszkiewicz (Szczepan/BlaBla)" <szczepan@cksr.ac.bialystok.pl>
  50. X-Sender: szczepan@cksr
  51. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  52. Subject: Re: Apatch & Visualprefs
  53. In-Reply-To: <1EF2414D1@mail.soft-eks.com.pl.>
  54. Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.96.980309153757.12822A-100000@cksr>
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  57.  
  58. ->A mianowicie od niepamietnych czasow uzywalem 2 programow Apatcha i 
  59. ->VisualPrefsa. Ostatnio musialem je wywalic tylko z tego powodu, ze 
  60. ->pierwszy z nich "walil" mi GMPLAY-a, a ten 2 sypie mi multiviewa (nie 
  61. ->wyswietla AmigaGuide, a pozniej (po kilkunastu sekundach) nastepuje 
  62. ->zwis.) Czy ktos wie co jest tego przyczyna, jak to obejsc, 
  63. ->ewentualnie czym zastapic w/w programy.
  64.  
  65.   Multiview = 2b_mv_os2 (czyli moj MultiView) ;)))
  66.  
  67. ------
  68.  Marcin Juszkiewicz (Szczepan/BlaBla)   *Team Amiga*
  69.  szczepan@cksr.ac.bialystok.pl  http://cksr.ac.bialystok.pl/szczepan/
  70.  A1200 BlizzIv 2+8MB RAM 425MB HDD
  71.  Author of MultiView for OS 2.0+ -> Aminet:util/sys/2b_mv_os2_x.lha
  72.  
  73. From owner-amigapl  Mon Mar  9 15:43:28 1998
  74. Received: from david.silesia.pik-net.pl (david.silesia.pik-net.pl [195.82.176.1]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA16444 for <amigapl@wfmh.org.pl>; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 15:27:27 +0100 (MET)
  75. Received: from mail.soft-eks.com.pl. (mail.soft-eks.com.pl [195.82.177.18])
  76.     by david.silesia.pik-net.pl (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA23591;
  77.     Mon, 9 Mar 1998 15:25:35 +0100
  78. Received: from SOFT_EKSPERT/SpoolDir by mail.soft-eks.com.pl. (Mercury 1.21);
  79.     9 Mar 98 15:27:14 +1100
  80. Received: from SpoolDir by SOFT_EKSPERT (Mercury 1.21); 9 Mar 98 15:26:54 +1100
  81. From: "Dariusz Kleina" <AMIGA@soft-eks.com.pl>
  82. To: Amiga@plearn.edu.pl, amigapl@wfmh.org.pl
  83. Date:          Mon, 9 Mar 1998 15:26:50 
  84. MIME-Version:  1.0
  85. Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
  86. Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
  87. Subject:       CrossDos7.0
  88. X-Confirm-Reading-To: "Dariusz Kleina" <AMIGA@soft-eks.com.pl.>
  89. X-pmrqc:       1
  90. Priority: normal
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  92. Message-ID: <3550E1A71@mail.soft-eks.com.pl.>
  93.  
  94. Czesc !!!
  95. GDZIE MOZNA ZNALEZC cross dosa7.0 w wersji demo (czy jakiej kolwiek 
  96. innej). Chce zobaczyc jak sobie radzi z Fatem32.
  97.  
  98. Pozdrawiam
  99.  
  100. +--------------------------------------------------------------------+
  101. | Dariusz Kleina                        Amiga & pC programmer        |
  102. | mailto:amiga@soft-eks.com.pl         Basic/Pascal/C/C++/Asm        |
  103. |   A1200, HDD 850, CD-ROM 12x, Mem 2+8 Mb, CPU 030/42, FPU 882/20   |
  104. +--------------------------------------------------------------------+
  105.         
  106. From owner-amigapl  Mon Mar  9 16:13:17 1998
  107. Received: from rose.man.poznan.pl (root@rose.man.poznan.pl [150.254.173.3]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA16511 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 15:49:21 +0100 (MET)
  108. Received: from buteo.man.bialystok.pl (buteo.man.bialystok.pl [194.181.132.1])
  109.     by rose.man.poznan.pl (8.8.5/8.8.5/bspm1.13+rchk1.20) with SMTP id PAA29048;
  110.     Mon, 9 Mar 1998 15:47:39 +0100 (MET)
  111. Received: from cksr.ac.bialystok.pl  by buteo.man.bialystok.pl  (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4)
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  115. Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 15:46:01 +0100 (MET)
  116. From: "Marcin Juszkiewicz (Szczepan/BlaBla)" <szczepan@cksr.ac.bialystok.pl>
  117. X-Sender: szczepan@cksr
  118. To: Lista dyskusyjna uzytkownikow komputerow AMIGA <AMIGA@plearn.edu.pl>,
  119.         AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  120. Subject: Linux ext2fs
  121. Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.96.980309154224.12822C-100000@cksr>
  122. MIME-Version: 1.0
  123. Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
  124.  
  125.  
  126.  Hi !
  127.  
  128.   Ostatnio kumpel pytal mnie czy wiem cos o strukturze dysku w ext2fs
  129. linuxowym. Niestety moja wiedza tego nie obejmuje wiec pytam was szanowni
  130. userzy. Chodzi mi o dokladne info co i jak jest zapisane by mozna bylo
  131. napisac na podstawie tego jakis prog do chociaz odczytu takich partycji. 
  132. Gotowy program raczej nie wchodzi w rachube, chyba ze bylby z dokladnym
  133. sourcem, gdyz chodzi o program raczej na ST niz na Amige. 
  134.  
  135. Z gory dzieki za info..
  136.  
  137. PS. Czy naprawde nikt nie moze podeslac mi czcionek AmigaPL bitmapy/CG ??
  138.  
  139. ------
  140.  Marcin Juszkiewicz (Szczepan/BlaBla)   *Team Amiga*
  141.  szczepan@cksr.ac.bialystok.pl  http://cksr.ac.bialystok.pl/szczepan/
  142.  A1200 BlizzIv 2+8MB RAM 425MB HDD
  143.  Author of MultiView for OS 2.0+ -> Aminet:util/sys/2b_mv_os2_x.lha
  144.  
  145. From owner-amigapl  Mon Mar  9 16:13:28 1998
  146. Received: from gryzmak.lodz.pdi.net (gryzmak.lodz.pdi.net [195.116.162.1]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA16564 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 16:07:49 +0100 (MET)
  147. Received: (from arturp@localhost)
  148.     by gryzmak.lodz.pdi.net (8.8.7/2.1.1/L) id QAA19768;
  149.     Mon, 9 Mar 1998 16:05:44 +0100
  150. Message-ID: <19980309160544.49251@plukwa.pdi.net>
  151. Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 16:05:44 +0100
  152. From: Artur Pietruk <arturp@plukwa.pdi.net>
  153. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  154. Subject: Re: Prg. do skladania anim.
  155. References: <767.371T599T6261619@friko.onet.pl>
  156. Mime-Version: 1.0
  157. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
  158. X-Mailer: Mutt 0.83
  159. In-Reply-To: <767.371T599T6261619@friko.onet.pl>; from Piotr Jedzinski on Sun, Mar 08, 1998 at 10:26:11AM +0100
  160.  
  161. On Sun, Mar 08, 1998 at 10:26:11AM +0100, Piotr Jedzinski wrote:
  162. > Witam!
  163. > 
  164. > Jaki jest najlepszy program na Amy do skladania animacji z
  165. > poszczegolnych klatek.
  166. > Najlepiej by bylo jakby byl z opcja "postoju" na np.50 klatce
  167. > np. 30 klatek a potem idzie dalej....
  168.  
  169.     Mozesz np. napisac wlasny skrypt w AREXXIe do laczenia klatek w
  170. animacje w ImageFX, w instrukcji amiga-guide jest ladny opis wszystkich
  171. funkcji. Masz wtedy pelna kontrole nad tym co sie dzieje podczas obrobki.
  172. Nie rozumie tylko co masz na mysli piszac o postoju?
  173.  
  174. > ps.
  175. >    kozystajac z okazji chcualbym wszystkich zainteresowanych
  176. >    powiadomic ze  jutro ide na 3 tygodnie do syfu.(#rezerwa#)
  177.  
  178.     ooops
  179.  
  180. --- Artur Pietruk
  181.  
  182. From owner-amigapl  Mon Mar  9 16:43:12 1998
  183. Received: from onet.pl (root@onet.pl [194.204.188.6]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA16627 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 16:28:52 +0100 (MET)
  184. Received: from mk (ppp-wct355.katowice.tpnet.pl [195.205.241.55])
  185.     by onet.pl (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA18572
  186.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 16:25:54 +0100 (MET)
  187. From: "Wojciech Kocjan" <kocjan@ka.onet.pl>
  188. To: "AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi" <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  189. Subject: Spis miast Polski
  190. Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 16:24:37 +0100
  191. Message-ID: <01bd4b6f$78ab7ec0$fdfefe01@mk>
  192. MIME-Version: 1.0
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  198. X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3
  199. X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3
  200.  
  201. Cze¶æ!
  202.  
  203. Potrzebujê jakiego¶ programu/tabeli/arkusza ze spisem WSZYSTKICH (i tych
  204. najmniejszych) miast w Polsce. Musia³bym mieæ ich wspó³rzêdne geograficzne
  205. lub co¶ takiego (do przeliczenia na inn± mapkê). Czy da siê to zrobiæ? Mo¿e
  206. AmiAtlas ma co¶ takiego?
  207.  
  208. Wojciech Kocjan
  209. mailto:kocjan@ka.onet.pl        http://priv.onet.pl/ka/wkocjan/
  210. GSM: +48 601 473237             SMS mailto:48601473237@text.plusgsm.pl
  211. AUTHOR OF AStartV4, ANETGUI, NEWFMT.LIBRARY and other things
  212. ---
  213. "Software suppliers are trying to make their software packages more
  214. 'user-friendly'.... Their best approach, so far, has been to take
  215. all the old brochures, and stamp the words, 'user-friendly' on the cover."
  216. -- Bill Gates, Pres., Microsoft, Inc.
  217.  
  218. From owner-amigapl  Mon Mar  9 18:13:12 1998
  219. Received: from box43.gnet.pl (box43.gnet.pl [195.117.182.3]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA16806 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 17:48:17 +0100 (MET)
  220. Received: from box43.gnet.pl (PiotrCzerniawski@pppa159.szczecin.tpnet.pl [194.204.141.159])
  221.     by box43.gnet.pl (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA19999;
  222.     Mon, 9 Mar 1998 17:45:59 +0100 (CET)
  223. From: Piotr Czerniawski <piotrcz@box43.gnet.pl>
  224. To: Amiga <amiga@plearn.edu.pl>
  225. CC: AmigaPL <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  226. Date: Mon, 09 Mar 1998 16:16:30 +0100
  227. Message-ID: <yam7372.1537.2015243280@box43.gnet.pl>
  228. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  229. Subject: Problem z 32MB =?iso-8859-2?Q?rozwi=B1zany?=
  230. MIME-Version: 1.0
  231. X-ISO-CONVERTED: Yam_ISO2 1.06 (17.11.97) (c) Silver Dream !
  232. X-YAMISO-UPDATE: ftp://wfmh.org.pl/pub/yam_iso2/
  233. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  234. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  235.  
  236. Witam
  237.  
  238. >Kupi=B3em ostatnio SIMM'y 32MB (EDO) i pojawi=B3y si=EA pewne problemy.
  239. >Rozpakowuj=B1c na MAC'u archiva r=F3wnie=BF pokazuj=B1 si=EA b=B3=EAdy. =
  240. Czy to wina
  241. >SIMM'=F3w czy niepoprawnej wsp=F3=B3pracy z Blizzardem IV ?
  242.  
  243. W rozwi=B1zaniu problemu pom=F3g=B3 kolega... pecetowiec. Wspomnia=B3em m=
  244. u jaki mam
  245. problem, a on zapyta=B3 czy nie musz=EA przestawi=E6 jaki=B6 zworek. I wt=
  246. edy sobie
  247. pomy=B6la=B3em o zworce 60-70 ns. By=B3a nastawiona na 60 ns wi=EAc przes=
  248. tawi=B3em na
  249. 70 i posz=B3o.
  250. Teraz nie wiem czy to z pami=EAciami jest co=B6 nie tak (wyra=BCnie na ko=
  251. =B6ciach 06) =
  252.  
  253. czy to jednak wina Blizza.
  254.  
  255. Mam pytanie do posiadaczy PPC - czy mieli problemy, =BFe niekt=F3re SIMM'=
  256. y nie
  257. dzia=B3a=B3y poprawnie ?
  258.  
  259. Dzi=EAki, Piotrek.
  260.  
  261. From owner-amigapl  Mon Mar  9 20:13:04 1998
  262. Received: from sun10.ci.pwr.wroc.pl (baran@sun10.ci.pwr.wroc.pl [156.17.10.1]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA17157 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 20:03:54 +0100 (MET)
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  265.     Mon, 9 Mar 1998 20:02:17 +0100 (MET)
  266. Message-ID: <19980309200216.23172@sun10.ci.pwr.wroc.pl>
  267. Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 20:02:16 +0100
  268. From: "Miroslaw 'Jubal' Baran, NM" <baran@knm.org.pl>
  269. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  270. Subject: Re: Apatch & Visualprefs
  271. References: <1EF2414D1@mail.soft-eks.com.pl.> <Pine.GSO.3.96.980309153757.12822A-100000@cksr>
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  276. In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.3.96.980309153757.12822A-100000@cksr>; from Marcin Juszkiewicz (Szczepan/BlaBla) on Mon, Mar 09, 1998 at 03:38:40PM +0100
  277. Organization: Klub Nieszkodliwych Maniakow
  278. X-Motto: ,,...nawet jesli wbije Ci noz w plecy, pamietaj, ze bedzie to czyste pchniecie.''
  279. X-Alchemy: Pany!
  280. X-System: SunOS 5.5
  281. X-PGP-key: mail(x) baran@sun10.ci.pwr.wroc.pl -s"send: pgp key" </dev/null
  282.  
  283. 9.03.98 pisze Marcin Juszkiewicz (Szczepan/BlaBla) (szczepan@CKSR.AC.BIALYS=
  284. TOK.PL):
  285.  
  286. > ->A mianowicie od niepamietnych czasow uzywalem 2 programow Apatcha i=20
  287. > ->VisualPrefsa. Ostatnio musialem je wywalic tylko z tego powodu, ze=20
  288. > ->pierwszy z nich "walil" mi GMPLAY-a, a ten 2 sypie mi multiviewa (nie=
  289. =20
  290. > ->wyswietla AmigaGuide, a pozniej (po kilkunastu sekundach) nastepuje=20
  291. > ->zwis.) Czy ktos wie co jest tego przyczyna, jak to obejsc,=20
  292. > ->ewentualnie czym zastapic w/w programy.
  293. >=20
  294. >   Multiview =3D 2b_mv_os2 (czyli moj MultiView) ;)))
  295.  
  296. Ja bym proponowa=B3 bibliotek=EA datatypes.library (t=B1 wersj=EA z aminetu,
  297. bodaj=BFe 45.5) + gmultiview (z tego samego archiwum).
  298.  
  299. pozdrawiam,
  300. Jubal
  301.  
  302. --=20
  303. =3D   // =3D mailto:baran@knm.org.pl =3D http://www.ci.pwr.wroc.pl/~baran/ =
  304. =3D
  305. =3D \X/  =3D Miroslaw L. Baran =3D Jubal =3D medical student =3D ALCHEMY PA=
  306. NY! =3D
  307.  
  308.                      Schizophrenia beats being alone.
  309. From owner-amigapl  Mon Mar  9 20:13:11 1998
  310. Received: from friko.onet.pl (friko.onet.pl [194.204.191.9]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA17154 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 20:03:23 +0100 (MET)
  311. Received: from friko.onet.pl (Lolo^@ppp238.lublin.tpnet.pl [194.204.161.238])
  312.           by friko.onet.pl (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP
  313.       id TAA29143 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 19:52:01 +0100
  314. From: Lolo <lolorad@friko.onet.pl>
  315. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  316. Date: Mon, 09 Mar 1998 18:38:49 +0100
  317. Message-ID: <yam7372.2446.1747044560@friko.onet.pl>
  318. In-Reply-To: <01bd4b6f$78ab7ec0$fdfefe01@mk>
  319. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.2 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  320. Subject: Re: Spis miast Polski
  321. MIME-Version: 1.0
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  323. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  324.  
  325. Dnia 09-Mar-98, Wojciech Kocjan napisa=EE:
  326. >Cze=B6=E6!
  327.  
  328. >Potrzebuj=EA jakiego=B6 programu/tabeli/arkusza ze spisem WSZYSTKICH (i =
  329. tych
  330.  
  331.  
  332. >AmiAtlas ma co=B6 takiego?
  333.  
  334. AmiAtlas ma. Bedziesz musial tylko rozpracowac format zapisu.
  335.  
  336.  
  337. -- =
  338.  
  339.                                    Radoslaw Flis - Lolo
  340.                                   lolorad@friko.onet.pl
  341.                            A1200/030/FPU/50MHz/8Fast/2.1+0.5GB HD/CD
  342.                                 MultisyncColor/Sportster28k8
  343.  
  344. From owner-amigapl  Mon Mar  9 21:13:04 1998
  345. Received: from ack.wat.waw.pl (ack.wat.waw.pl [193.59.146.2]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA17269 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 20:43:24 +0100 (MET)
  346. Received: from iarsun1.iar.wat.waw.pl by ack.wat.waw.pl (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/97.09.23)
  347.           id AA27542; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 20:41:34 +0100
  348. Received: from iar.wat.waw.pl (sltest) by iarsun1 (5.x/SMI-SVR4)
  349.     id AA10300; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 20:29:33 +0100
  350. From: Janusz Golicz <J.Golicz@iarsun1.iar.wat.waw.pl>
  351. Reply-To: Janusz Golicz <J.Golicz@iarsun1.iar.wat.waw.pl>
  352. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  353. Date: Mon, 09 Mar 1998 20:30:31 +0100
  354. Message-Id: <yam7372.1552.5179160@iarsun1.iar.wat.waw.pl>
  355. In-Reply-To: <3550E1A71@mail.soft-eks.com.pl.>
  356. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  357. Subject: Re: CrossDos7.0
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  366. YAM is available at http://bitcom.ch/~mbeck/
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  8182.  
  8183. --BOUNDARY.7372.1552.5179160.2--
  8184.  
  8185.  
  8186. From owner-amigapl  Mon Mar  9 21:13:33 1998
  8187. Received: from server.fiber.net.pl (server.fiber.net.pl [195.117.208.101]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA17308 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 20:53:20 +0100 (MET)
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  8192.           Mon, 9 Mar 1998 20:52:14 +0100
  8193. From: Admin <owner-amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  8194. To: "[WFMH] Lista uzytkownikow Amigi" <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  8195. Date: Mon, 09 Mar 1998 18:07:53 +0100
  8196. Message-ID: <yam7372.2677.145949544@server.fiber.net.pl>
  8197. X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 beta10 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
  8198. Organization: W.F.M.H.   (http://wfmh.org.pl)
  8199. Subject: Phase5 i SAS/C na ftp.amiga.com.pl
  8200. MIME-Version: 1.0
  8201. Content-Type: text/plain
  8202.  
  8203.  
  8204. Czesc,
  8205.  
  8206. na eftepie ftp://ftp.amiga.com.pl/pub znajduja sie aktualizowane codziennie
  8207. mirrory eftepa Phase5 (katalog phase5 -> jest nowy kernel PPC) oraz strony
  8208. poswieconej SAS/C PPC (katalog sas -> beta 19). I chwilowo ElasticDreamsDemo
  8209. w /pub/tmp
  8210.  
  8211. -- 
  8212.  Admin                           mailto:owner-amigapl@amiga.com.pl
  8213.  
  8214.  
  8215.  
  8216. From owner-amigapl  Mon Mar  9 22:13:17 1998
  8217. Received: from plus.ds14.agh.edu.pl (bastian@plus.ds14.agh.edu.pl [149.156.196.254]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA17433 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 21:56:05 +0100 (MET)
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  8221. Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 21:55:32 +0100 (CET)
  8222. From: Grzegorz Junka <bastian@plus.ds14.agh.edu.pl>
  8223. X-Sender: bastian@plus
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  8228.  
  8229.  
  8230. delete mateusz@fox.ds14.agh.edu.pl
  8231.  
  8232. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 10 00:43:04 1998
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  8237. From: RHS Linux User <malafifi@friko.onet.pl>
  8238. Reply-To: RHS Linux User <malafifi@friko.onet.pl>
  8239. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  8240. Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 00:13:03 +0100
  8241. Message-ID: <yam7373.183.2016049760@priv.onet.pl>
  8242. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  8243. Organization: SIEDZIBA =?iso-8859-2?Q?DIAB=A3A?=
  8244. Subject: Ahi i inne takie
  8245. MIME-Version: 1.0
  8246. X-ISO-CONVERTED: Yam_ISO2 1.03 (15.10.97) (c) Silver Dream !
  8247. X-YAMISO-UPDATE: ftp://wfmh.man.szczecin.pl/pub/yam_iso2/
  8248. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  8249. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  8250.  
  8251. 1. w sprawie AHI.
  8252. Ostatnio bardzo spodoba=B3o mi si=EA AHI.Lecz troch=EA dziwne =BFeczy si=EA=
  8253.  z nim
  8254. dziej=B1.Na pocz=B1tku uruchomi=B3em sobie HIPa.Jak wiadomo obs=B3uguje o=
  8255. n AHI.
  8256. Posprawdza=B3em kilka mo=BFliwych sterownik=F3w dzwi=EAku najcz=EA=B6ciej=
  8257.  tych 14bitowych
  8258. poniewa=BF mam tylko Paule :)Chodzi=B3o cacy dop=F3ki nie u=BFy=B3em god=BF=
  8259. etu =
  8260.  
  8261. Master volume z preferencji Hipa.Teraz ju=BF odtwarzanie nie by=B3o takie=
  8262.  =B6liczne.
  8263. D=BCwi=EAk by=B3 (jakby to powiedzie=E6) zbyt przesterowany i zamiast =B3=
  8264. adnego d=BCwi=EAku
  8265. wydobywa=B3y si=EA trzaski.Ale wracaj=B1c do pozycji zero w=B3a=B6ciwie
  8266. wszystkie 14 i 8 bitowe tryby chodzi=B3y ok !Zaraz te=BF wpad=B3o mi w =B3=
  8267. apy demo
  8268. Evrything Dies z kompaktu ACS.Obs=B3uguje ahi wiec szybciutko uruchomi=B3=
  8269. em.
  8270. I co? zamiast soczystego d=BCwi=EAku znowu us=B3ysza=B3em to samo co w Hi=
  8271. pie.
  8272. Z tym =BFe w demie nie by=B3o niestety =BFadnego gad=BFtu Master volume :=
  8273. ))
  8274. Wkurzony przeczyta=B3em dokumentacje i dowiedzia=B3em si=EA =BFe AHI na p=
  8275. auli
  8276. korzysta z 14bitowej kalibracji.No dobra skalibrowa=B3em wszystko najlepi=
  8277. ej
  8278. jak si=EA da=B3o.Uruchamiam demo i czad.D=BCwiek jest czadowy.=AFadnych p=
  8279. rzesterowa=F1
  8280. nic.Elegancko.No i teraz w entuzja=BCmie uruchamiam sobie Hipa a tu mi
  8281. HIFI robi tak=B1 trzod=EA jak poprzednio demo.R=EAce mi opad=B3y.Skalibro=
  8282. wa=B3em
  8283. wszystko jeszcze dok=B3adniej i ci=B1gle to samo.Czego to mo=BFe by=E6 pr=
  8284. zyczyna?
  8285. Z=B3ej kalibracji?Kiedy=B6 gdzie=B6 dorwa=B3em plik z kalibracj=B1,nazywa=
  8286. =B3 si=EA =
  8287.  
  8288. FlowerPower czy jako=B6 tak.Chodzi=B3 dobrze (przynajmniej tak mi si=EA w=
  8289. ydaje)
  8290. a=BF kt=F3ra=B6 wersja AHI zainstalowa=B3a na jego miejsce w=B3asny.
  8291. Ma go mo=BFe kto=B6?Albo jaki=B6 inny u kogo dobrze chodzi?
  8292. Prosz=EA o porad=EA jak rozwi=B1za=E6 problem AHI.
  8293.  =
  8294.  
  8295. 2.
  8296. W sprawie EvilsDoom
  8297. Czy jest kto=B6 kto przeszed=B3 lochy i odnalaz=B3 miecz Paralax.
  8298. Zaci=B1=B3em si=EA na poziomie w kt=F3rym znajduje si=EA miecz Conqueror =
  8299. (czy jako=B6 tak)
  8300. odkry=B3em wszystko co mo=BFliwe,w=B3aczy=B3em r=F3wnie=BF i nie wiem co =
  8301. dalej,bo miecza
  8302. jak nie ma tak nie ma.Je=BFeli jest kto=B6 taki to prosze o kontakt na pr=
  8303. iv
  8304. coby nie za=B6mieca=E6 listy takimi bzdurami:)
  8305.  
  8306. 3.
  8307. W sprawie dziwnych plik=F3w :)
  8308. Mam takie dziwne pliki z rozsze=BFeniem *.DF0.Jaki to format ?Czym je odc=
  8309. zyta=E6?
  8310.  
  8311. 4.
  8312. W sprawie kasowalnego RADu.
  8313. Zak=B3adam sobie RAD.Robie reset a radu niema.Czary mary ? :)
  8314. Objaw wyst=EApuje tylko wtedy jak wgram sobie system ze startupu.
  8315. Jednak po za=B3adowaniu WBa r=EAcznie problem znika- reset i rad ca=B3y c=
  8316. zas
  8317. jest.Rozwi=B1zanie brzmi ......
  8318.  
  8319. 5.
  8320. W sprawie komercyjnego pisania gier.
  8321. Czy op=B3aca si=EA pisa=E6 komercyjne gry na Amy.Ile mo=BFna na tym zarob=
  8322. i=E6
  8323. (o ile wog=F3le mo=BFna).Sprawa piractwa itp.itd..
  8324. Je=B6li kto=B6 si=EA orientuje to prosz=EA na priv,chyba =BFe s=B1 inne o=
  8325. soby
  8326. zainteresowane.
  8327.  
  8328. 6.
  8329. Raczej do Admina :)
  8330. Czy istnieje mo=BFliwo=B6=E6 za=B3o=BFenia na serverze WFMH listy dyskusy=
  8331. jnej
  8332. po=B6wi=EAconej programowaniu pod AmigaOS.My=B6l=EA =BFe jest to dobry
  8333. pomys=B3 i =BFe jest wiele os=F3b kt=F3re by=B3yby zainteresowane.
  8334. Skoro mo=BFna by=B3o utworzy=E6 list=EA smerfy:) to r=F3wnie=BF co=B6 tak=
  8335. iego mo=BFna.
  8336.  
  8337. -- =
  8338.  
  8339.               ---------------------------------------------------
  8340.               |     RHS Linux User znany jako Andrzej P=EAczak    |
  8341.               | A1k2 z dodatkami E-mial: malafifi@friko.onet.pl |
  8342.               ---------------------------------------------------
  8343.  
  8344. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 10 01:43:10 1998
  8345. Received: from ns1.widzew.net (ns1.widzew.net [195.117.215.2]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA17961 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 01:20:01 +0100 (MET)
  8346. Received: (from maciek@localhost) by ns1.widzew.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) id BAA22126; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 01:21:01 +0100 (MET)
  8347. Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 01:21:01 +0100 (MET)
  8348. From: "Maciej Pawlowski (MACIEK@WIDZEW.NET)" <maciek@ns1.widzew.net>
  8349. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  8350. Subject: Re: CrossDos7.0
  8351. In-Reply-To: <yam7372.1552.5179160@iarsun1.iar.wat.waw.pl>
  8352. Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.3.91.980310012037.22116C-100000@ns1.widzew.net>
  8353. MIME-Version: 1.0
  8354. Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
  8355.  
  8356.  
  8357.  
  8358. On Mon, 9 Mar 1998, Janusz Golicz wrote:
  8359.  
  8360. > Baw sie dobrze.
  8361. > J.G.
  8362. > 
  8363.  
  8364. Zabawa byla przednia :)
  8365.  
  8366. Maciek
  8367.  
  8368. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 10 05:13:05 1998
  8369. Received: from jantar.ias.wat.waw.pl (jantar.ias.wat.waw.pl [193.59.147.36]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id EAA20031 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 04:49:39 +0100 (MET)
  8370. Received: from jantar.ias.wat.waw.pl (ppp2-cst69.warszawa.tpnet.pl) by
  8371.           jantar.ias.wat.waw.pl (MX V4.2 VAX) with SMTP; Tue, 10 Mar 1998
  8372.           04:48:20 MET
  8373. From: Krzysztof Rudnik <rudnik@jantar.ias.wat.waw.pl>
  8374. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  8375. Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 04:48:01 +0100
  8376. Message-ID: <yam7373.98.2015289960@jantar.ias.wat.waw.pl>
  8377. In-Reply-To: <yam7372.1537.2015243280@box43.gnet.pl>
  8378. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  8379. Organization: IAS WAT
  8380. Subject: Re: Problem z 32MB =?iso-8859-1?Q?rozwi=B1zany?=
  8381. MIME-Version: 1.0
  8382. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
  8383. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  8384.  
  8385. Dnia 09-Mar-98, Piotr Czerniawski napisal:
  8386. >Witam
  8387.  
  8388. >>Kupi=B3em ostatnio SIMM'y 32MB (EDO) i pojawi=B3y si=EA pewne problemy.=
  8389.  
  8390. >>Rozpakowuj=B1c na MAC'u archiva r=F3wnie=BF pokazuj=B1 si=EA b=B3=EAdy.=
  8391.  Czy to wina
  8392. >>SIMM'=F3w czy niepoprawnej wsp=F3=B3pracy z Blizzardem IV ?
  8393.  
  8394. >W rozwi=B1zaniu problemu pom=F3g=B3 kolega... pecetowiec. Wspomnia=B3em =
  8395. mu jaki =
  8396.  
  8397. >mam
  8398. >problem, a on zapyta=B3 czy nie musz=EA przestawi=E6 jaki=B6 zworek. I w=
  8399. tedy =
  8400.  
  8401. >sobie
  8402. >pomy=B6la=B3em o zworce 60-70 ns. By=B3a nastawiona na 60 ns wi=EAc prze=
  8403. stawi=B3em =
  8404.  
  8405. >na
  8406. >70 i posz=B3o.
  8407. >Teraz nie wiem czy to z pami=EAciami jest co=B6 nie tak (wyra=BCnie na =
  8408.  
  8409. >ko=B6ciach 06) =
  8410.  
  8411. >czy to jednak wina Blizza.
  8412.  
  8413.  
  8414. Nie wiem, czy to dotyczy opisywanej wczesniej sytuacji (moj serwer
  8415. pcztowy nie dzialal kilka dni) ale:
  8416. O ile dobrze pamietam, jesli stosuje sie pamiec na plytce SCSI do Blizza
  8417. to szybkosc musi byc ustawiona na 70ns - po prostu dostep do tej pamieci
  8418. jest troche wolniejszy.
  8419.  
  8420. -- =
  8421.  
  8422. Krzysztof Rudnik     mail,finger: rudnik@jantar.ias.wat.waw.pl
  8423.                      www:   http://www.ias.wat.waw.pl/~rudnik/
  8424.     A1230T 882/50MHz 16MB, CD-ROM, HDD 1GB =
  8425.  
  8426.  
  8427.  
  8428. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 10 07:43:05 1998
  8429. Received: from mx1.polbox.com (root@mx1.polbox.com [195.116.5.16]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA20173 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 07:30:29 +0100 (MET)
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  8432.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 07:31:34 +0100
  8433. From: Irek <snowman@free.polbox.pl>
  8434. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  8435. Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 08:06:58 -0500
  8436. Message-ID: <yam7373.2903.2690496@smtp.polbox.com>
  8437. In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.3.96.980309154224.12822C-100000@cksr>
  8438. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.3a [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  8439. Subject: Re: Linux ext2fs
  8440. MIME-Version: 1.0
  8441. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  8442. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  8443.  
  8444. Dnia 09-Mar-98, Marcin Juszkiewicz (Szczepan/BlaBla) napisa=EE:
  8445.  
  8446. > Hi !
  8447. Hej!
  8448.  
  8449. [...]
  8450.  
  8451. >PS. Czy naprawde nikt nie moze podeslac mi czcionek AmigaPL bitmapy/CG ?=
  8452. ?
  8453. A konkretnie jakie maja to byc czcionki, dowolne Compugraphics w AmigaPL?=
  8454. ?
  8455. Jezeli tak, to moge troche Ci ich podeslac. Mam ich "pare". Napisz czy
  8456. maja to byc jakies konkretne zestawy (chodzi mi o nazwy).
  8457.  
  8458. Nara!
  8459.  
  8460. -- =
  8461.  
  8462. e-mail: irekm@friko.onet.pl      __
  8463. e-mail: irekm@kki.net.pl        // \   HTTP: on prepare
  8464. *Easy work?   - on Amiga*         \__          A1k2+850MB+4MB+CDx8+28800
  8465. *Best system? - on Amiga*            \
  8466. *BIG TROUBLE? - on PC...*         \_// NOWMAN - Amiga Fan 4ever !
  8467.  
  8468.  
  8469. ----- [ REKLAMA / ADVERTISEMENT ] ------------------------
  8470.  
  8471. Zostan Autoryzowanym Partnerem Polbox On-Line Service!
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  8473.  
  8474. ----------------------------------------------------------
  8475.  
  8476. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 10 07:43:12 1998
  8477. Received: from friko.onet.pl (friko.onet.pl [194.204.191.9]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA20175 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 07:31:54 +0100 (MET)
  8478. Received: from priv.onet.pl (pppa55.poznan.tpnet.pl [194.204.178.55])
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  8480.       id HAA21461; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 07:19:52 +0100
  8481. From: Siera <sie@friko.onet.pl>
  8482. To: amiga@plearn.edu.pl, amigapl@amiga.com.pl
  8483. Date: Mon, 09 Mar 1998 16:19:31 +0100
  8484. Message-ID: <yam7372.1580.120462816@priv.onet.pl>
  8485. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  8486. Subject: 25MHz =>> 40MHz
  8487. MIME-Version: 1.0
  8488. Content-Type: text/plain
  8489.  
  8490. Hi,
  8491. Czy ktos moze probowal takiego eksperymentu jak wymiana kwarcu 25Mhz (50MHz)
  8492. na 40 MHz(80MHz). chodzi o plyte A3640 rew3.1
  8493.  
  8494.       _____ _ _____ _____________
  8495.      |     | |     |     \       |     A4000/040/25MHz/16Mb/545Mb/CV64
  8496.      |   --| |  ---|  O   |   |  |     mailto: sie@priv.onet.pl
  8497.      |     | |     |     /       |     priv.onet.pl/po/sie/ 
  8498.      |---  | |  ---|  _  \    |  |     Lista przebojow !!!
  8499.      |_____|_|_____|_| \__\___|__|
  8500.  
  8501.   
  8502.      
  8503.       
  8504.       
  8505.  
  8506.  
  8507. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 10 08:13:05 1998
  8508. Received: from www.kki.net.pl (www.kki.net.pl [195.116.9.70]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA20197 for <amigapl@wfmh.fiber.net.pl>; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 07:43:40 +0100 (MET)
  8509. Received: from WspSpolem (rmod14.kielce.mtl.pl [195.117.92.46])
  8510.     by www.kki.net.pl (8.8.7/8.8.7.ver5) with ESMTP id HAA28678
  8511.     for <amigapl@wfmh.man.szczecin.pl>; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 07:41:45 +0100
  8512. Message-Id: <199803100641.HAA28678@www.kki.net.pl>
  8513. From: "Marcin Soko³owski" <600user@kki.net.pl>
  8514. To: "AmigaPL-WFMH" <amigapl@wfmh.fiber.net.pl>
  8515. Subject: Czy oplaca sie kupno Picasso IV ?
  8516. Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 07:44:35 +0100
  8517. X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
  8518. X-Priority: 3
  8519. X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161
  8520. MIME-Version: 1.0
  8521. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2
  8522. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  8523.  
  8524. Czesc !
  8525.  
  8526. Przepraszam, ze na liste, ale tu moge znalezc najlepsze opinie :)
  8527.  
  8528. Czy oplaca sie kupno karty Picasso IV za 700 zl ? Slyszalem troche o =
  8529. CV64 3D, ale o Picasso IV tylko tyle, ile przeczytalem w MA - a wolalbym =
  8530. opinie uzytkownikow.
  8531. A moze lepiej poczekac troche i dolozyc do CyberVision PPC ?
  8532.  
  8533. P.S.
  8534. Karta do A-4000.
  8535. ----------------------
  8536. Marcin "XMS" Soko=B3owski Amiga FAN ForEver
  8537. http://www.complex.com.pl/~zbylu/xms/xms001.html
  8538. 600user@kki.net.pl
  8539. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 10 08:43:18 1998
  8540. Received: from mx1.polbox.com (root@mx1.polbox.com [195.116.5.16]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA20282 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 08:35:18 +0100 (MET)
  8541. Received: from krzysiek (pppb80.szczecin.tpnet.pl [195.205.239.80])
  8542.     by mx1.polbox.com (8.8.8/rev-A0) with SMTP id IAA19884
  8543.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 08:36:20 +0100
  8544. Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 08:36:20 +0100
  8545. Message-Id: <199803100736.IAA19884@mx1.polbox.com>
  8546. From: Krzysiek Jonko <kjonko@polbox.com>
  8547. To: Lista WFMH <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  8548. Subject: Autoscroll
  8549. MIME-Version: 1.0
  8550. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
  8551. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
  8552. X-Mailer: Becky! ver 1.23
  8553.  
  8554. Czesc!
  8555. Pytanie do programistow: otwieram ekran przez OpenScreenTagList m.in. z
  8556. flaga autoscroll. Ale za diabla nie chce dobrze dzialac - myszka ucieka
  8557. daleko poza widoczna czesc ekranu nie przesuwajac go. Co jeszcze trzeba
  8558. zrobic - ustawic zakres widzialnosci myszy czy co?
  8559.  
  8560.       /// Krzysiek Jonko
  8561.      ///  A1200T/040/25Mhz 10MB Ram 8xCD, HP ScanJet 4C
  8562.  \\\///   kjonko@polbox.com
  8563.   \XX/    http://free.polbox.pl/k/kjonko/index.htm
  8564.  
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  8569.  
  8570. ----------------------------------------------------------
  8571.  
  8572. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 10 10:43:09 1998
  8573. Received: from www.kozanow.kor.com.pl (www.kozanow.kor.com.pl [195.117.162.129]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA20568 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:37:28 +0100 (MET)
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  8582. Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:34:47 +0100
  8583. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  8584. From: "Michal Szota (mah0met)" <michal@www.kor.com.pl>
  8585. Subject: Re: CrossDos7.0
  8586.  
  8587. >Baw sie dobrze.
  8588. >J.G.
  8589. Bij, zabij! :(((
  8590.  
  8591.   .sd$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ba.   .sdba.
  8592.  a$$ mah0met $ Michal Szota $ michal@www.kor.com.pl $$a a$$$$$$a
  8593.  $$$$$$$ www.kki.net.pl/mah $ v i v a  A m i g a $$$$$$ $$$$$$$$
  8594.   'OO$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$OO'   'O$$O'
  8595.  
  8596.  
  8597. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 10 10:43:16 1998
  8598. Received: from linux2.pzuzycie.com.pl (linux2.pzuzycie.com.pl [195.205.22.5]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA20544 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:28:47 +0100 (MET)
  8599. Received: from pecet (ppp209.plock.tpnet.pl [195.116.246.209])
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  8601.     Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:28:01 +0100
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  8603. Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:26:36 +0100
  8604. From: jurek <jurgen@linux2.pzuzycie.com.pl>
  8605. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (Win95; I)
  8606. MIME-Version: 1.0
  8607. To: lista amiga <AMIGA@plearn.edu.pl>, lista amigapl <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  8608. Subject: jak wyslac list ?
  8609. X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
  8610. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  8611. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
  8612.  
  8613. do grupy comp.sys.amiga na news.icm.edu.pl
  8614. co wpisac jako adres ?
  8615.  
  8616. -- 
  8617.  
  8618. siemka
  8619.  
  8620. * Ak5/3.1/3mb/80+540scsi/cd 2x/1084/USRS28800
  8621. * jurgen@linux2.pzuzycie.com.pl
  8622. * amiga 4 ever
  8623. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 10 10:43:22 1998
  8624. Received: from student.uci.agh.edu.pl (kwant@student.uci.agh.edu.pl [149.156.98.60]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA20538 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:26:17 +0100 (MET)
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  8627. Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:25:35 +0100 (MET)
  8628. From: Jaroslaw Bulat <kwant@student.uci.agh.edu.pl>
  8629. X-Sender: kwant@student
  8630. Reply-To: Jaroslaw Bulat <kwant@student.uci.agh.edu.pl>
  8631. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>,
  8632.         Lista dyskusyjna uzytkownikow komputera AMIGA AMIGAPL <AMIGA@plearn.edu.pl>
  8633. Subject: Do Grzegorza Junki !!!!
  8634. Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.95.980310101759.2540A-100000@student>
  8635. MIME-Version: 1.0
  8636. Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
  8637.  
  8638.  
  8639. Hi!
  8640.  
  8641. Sory ze na liste ale nie moge sie z toba skontaktowac!!
  8642.  
  8643. Twoj adres (bastian@fox.ds14.agh.edu.pl) jest nieaktualny -odbija wyslane
  8644. maile!
  8645. Maile wysylalem przez replay wiec cos sie u ciebie chyba zmienilo.
  8646.  
  8647.  
  8648.  
  8649. Kwant.
  8650.  
  8651. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 10 11:43:12 1998
  8652. Received: from butler.medianet.pl (root@butler.medianet.com.pl [195.116.184.2]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA20723 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:35:55 +0100 (MET)
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  8658.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:35:42 GMT
  8659. From: Tomasz Muszynski <thom@union.org.pl>
  8660. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  8661. Date: Mon, 09 Mar 1998 22:42:48 +0100
  8662. Message-ID: <yam7372.2419.124618800@mail.union.org.pl>
  8663. In-Reply-To: <yam7372.2312.5578512@kki.net.pl>
  8664. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  8665. Organization: Union WHQ
  8666. Subject: Re: Konwersja miedzy...
  8667. MIME-Version: 1.0
  8668. X-ISO-CONVERTED: Yam_ISO2 1.05 (02.11.97) (c) Silver Dream !
  8669. X-YAMISO-UPDATE: ftp://wfmh.man.szczecin.pl/pub/yam_iso2/
  8670. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  8671. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  8672.  
  8673. On 09-Mar-98, Karol Bryd wrote:
  8674. > Ew. jezeli takiego programu nie ma to moze chociaz ktos
  8675. > zna format w jakim kodowane sa rejestry w plikach pragma ?
  8676. > (np: #pragma libcall SysBase BlaBla BA83C
  8677. >                                     ^^^^^
  8678. >                                 chodzi mi o to)
  8679. > W takim razie sam taki programik napisze...
  8680.  
  8681. #pragma libcall <nazwa> <offset> <magic_number>
  8682.  
  8683. Kolejne cyfry (hex) ostatniego parametru okre=B6laj=B1 rejestry, w kt=F3r=
  8684. ych
  8685. podaje si=EA parametry.
  8686.  
  8687. Liczba Rejestr
  8688. 00     D0
  8689. =2E..    ...
  8690. 07     D7
  8691. 08     A0
  8692. =2E..    ...
  8693. 0E     A6
  8694. 10     FP0
  8695. 17     FP7
  8696.  
  8697. Na ko=F1cu du=BFa litera R i cyfra okre=B6laj=B1 rejestr, w kt=F3rym zwra=
  8698. cany jest
  8699. wynik. Ci=B1g ko=F1czy si=EA ilo=B6ci=B1 parametr=F3w funkcji.
  8700. Do=B6=E6 proste, ale powiedz mi dlaczego nie chcesz u=BFy=E6 .fd?
  8701.  
  8702. -- =
  8703.  
  8704.  
  8705.     // Tomasz Muszynski (Thom/Union) | mailto:thom@union.org.pl       //
  8706. \\ // C programmer on AMIGA and PC   | http://www.union.org.pl/thom/ //
  8707.  \// Using: A4000/040@25/18MB/EGS/Ariadne, P166/32MB/DVD, Mac on Amiga
  8708.     -------------------- Author of GadToolsBox v3 -------------------
  8709.  
  8710. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 10 12:13:06 1998
  8711. Received: from mops.uci.agh.edu.pl (lemi@mops.uci.agh.edu.pl [149.156.98.196]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA20774 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:53:26 +0100 (MET)
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  8715. Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 12:44:19 +0100 (MET)
  8716. From: "LeMUr of blabla (Lukasz Prokulski)" <lemi@mops.uci.agh.edu.pl>
  8717. Sender: lemi@mops.uci.agh.edu.pl
  8718. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  8719. Subject: Apollo i 16MB SIMM
  8720. Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.980310124245.4035A-100000@mops>
  8721. MIME-Version: 1.0
  8722. Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
  8723.  
  8724.  
  8725.     Kupilem Apollo 040/33MHz, kupilem kosc EDO 16MB - wkladam to w
  8726. Amige i co? I system widzi tylko 10MB (2+8 :) dostepnej pamieci. Czy ktos
  8727. moze cos na to poradzic? Czyzby przeadresowanie pamieci w miejsce obslugi
  8728. PCMCIA (ale z drugiej strony to ponoc Apollo ialo nie miec z tym
  8729. problemow...). HELP!
  8730.  
  8731.  
  8732.  /************************************************************************
  8733.  *    LeMUr of blabla              AMiGA 1k2 user, C-programmer, boss of *
  8734.  * ./___ _    _____. ./___ _    _____.  IZViestia magazine, text-writter *
  8735.  * |____\/____\____| |____\/____\____|  E-MAIL: lemi@mops.uci.agh.edu.pl *
  8736.  * blabla - this means system friendly    HTTP:  www.gliwice.pl/~thufor/ *
  8737.  *********** AmiNET:util/cli/2b_Srch11DEMO.lha - get it now! ************/
  8738.  
  8739. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 10 12:13:13 1998
  8740. Received: from helios.man.lublin.pl (root@helios.man.lublin.pl [194.92.17.34]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA20770 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:50:42 +0100 (MET)
  8741. Received: from eskulap.am.lublin.pl ([194.92.16.178] EHLO eskulap.am.lublin.pl ident: NO-IDENT-SERVICE [port 1438]) by helios.man.lublin.pl with ESMTP id <66087-808>; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:48:47 +0100
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  8745. From: "Grzegorz M. Pietras" <PIETRAS@eskulap.am.lublin.pl>
  8746. To: amigapl@amiga.com.pl
  8747. Date:     Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:48:29 +0100
  8748. Subject:       Re: Problem z 32MB =?iso-8859-2?Q?rozwi=B1zany?=
  8749. X-Confirm-Reading-To: "Grzegorz M. Pietras" <PIETRAS@eskulap.am.lublin.pl>
  8750. X-pmrqc:       1
  8751. Priority: normal
  8752. X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.22
  8753. Message-ID: <A729CD6953@eskulap.am.lublin.pl>
  8754.  
  8755. -> >Kupi/lem ostatnio SIMM'y 32MB (EDO) i pojawi/ly sie, pewne problemy.
  8756. -> >Rozpakowuja,c na MAC'u archiva ro'wniez. pokazuja, sie, b/le,dy. Czy to wina
  8757. -> >SIMM'o'w czy niepoprawnej wspo'/lpracy z Blizzardem IV ?
  8758. -> 
  8759. -> W rozwia,zaniu problemu pomo'g/l kolega... pecetowiec. Wspomnia/lem mu jaki mam
  8760. -> problem, a on zapyta/l czy nie musze, przestawic' jakis' zworek. I wtedy sobie
  8761. -> pomys'la/lem o zworce 60-70 ns. By/la nastawiona na 60 ns wie,c przestawi/lem na
  8762. -> 70 i posz/lo.
  8763. -> Teraz nie wiem czy to z pamie,ciami jest cos' nie tak (wyraz'nie na kos'ciach 06) 
  8764. -> czy to jednak wina Blizza.
  8765. Jesli dobrze pamietam (mialem wczesniej Blizzarda IV) to zwiekszenie 
  8766. osiagow karty uzyskane przez przestawienie zworki czasu dostepu do 
  8767. pamieci na 60ns dziala tylko w przypadku korzystania z jednego gniazda 
  8768. na SIMM. Jezeli podlaczyles do Blizzka sterownik SCSI i umiesciles na 
  8769. nim  drugiego SIMMa to opcja z ustawianiem 60ns/70ns nie dziala.
  8770. Dlatego jest to prawdopodobnie "wina" Blizzarda :-)
  8771. Swoja droga, to bardzo dobra karta....
  8772.  
  8773. Pozdrawiam
  8774.  
  8775. ChamLet
  8776.  
  8777.  
  8778. ************      Grzegorz M. Pietras,  MD, PhD     **************
  8779. Dept. of Obstetrics     University Medical    Team AMIGA, ATO-PL
  8780.  and Perinatology        School in Lublin    A1240/40-18-1,6-1,76
  8781. ************   e-mail:pietras@eskulap.am.lublin.pl   *************
  8782. *********     http://eskulap.am.lublin.pl/~pietras/     **********
  8783. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 10 13:43:06 1998
  8784. Received: from box43.gnet.pl (box43.gnet.pl [195.117.182.3]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA20950 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 13:25:45 +0100 (MET)
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  8794. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  8795. From: Marek Telecki <telly@box43.gnet.pl>
  8796. Subject: Komunikat AIRI again!
  8797.  
  8798. Witam!
  8799.  
  8800.     Przypominam, ze w ofercie AIRI znajduja sie dwa rewelacyjne
  8801. programy autorstwa Wegra Laszlo Toroka, a mianowicie:
  8802.  
  8803.  - Savage - bardzo szybki zewnetrzny sterownik graficzny do ShapeShiftera
  8804. (nieodzowny dla wszystkich bez karty gfx) wymaga procka min. 040, osobna
  8805. wersja 2x2 pixele - niezla do gier! (Savage jest tak samo szybki (a czesto
  8806. szybszy) jak TurboEVD i oferuje dodatkowo prace w 15 bitach!)
  8807.  
  8808.  - AVId - najszybszy player filmow .avi jaki to tej pory napotkalem, hula
  8809. na AGAtkach standardowo obsluguje karty grafiki pod kontrola P96, ale
  8810. powinien pojsc na CGX - ktorego support autor obiecuje wkrotce, tak jak
  8811. support dla Intel Indeo!!! (w trybie Ham8 animki chodza w AVIdzie ok. 4
  8812. razy szybciej niz pod CyberAVI!!!)
  8813.  
  8814.     Ceny rejestracyje w/w programow wynosza odpowiednio: 20 DM (Savage)
  8815. i 15 DM (AVId), ale dla Amigowcow z Polski (!!!) autor  specjalna SUPER
  8816. NISKA cene!:
  8817.  
  8818. Rejestracja kosztuje Cie TYLKO 5 DM za program + koszty przesylki, a przy
  8819. rejestrowaniu obu programow placisz tylko 8 DM! + koszty przesylki!
  8820.  
  8821. Tak wiec cena w zlotowkach wynosi:
  8822. 12 zl za rejestracje 1 programu,
  8823. 18 z=BD za rejestracje 2 programow!
  8824.  
  8825. Powyzsze programy w wersjach demonstracyjnych sa dostepne na Aminecie. A
  8826. wkrotce  ich opisy ukaza sie na stronie AIRI.
  8827.  
  8828. Wszystkich zainteresowanych prosze o kontakt na adres:
  8829.  
  8830.             telly@box43.gnet.pl
  8831.  
  8832. Rejestracja gwarantuje bezplatne upgrade'y do nowszych wersji :-)
  8833.  
  8834. Procedura rejestracji:
  8835.  1. wysylasz do mnie mailem twoje dane: adres, telefon, email, wiek, konfig
  8836. sprzetu i tym podobne informacje (bez zbyt osobistych :-)))
  8837.  2. Wysylasz przekazem pienieznym na moj adres kwote 12 lub 18,- (zlotych
  8838. polskich) - w zaleznosci od ilosci zamawianych programow,
  8839.  3. Czekasz cierpliwie na mail od Laszlo z programami w attachmencie.
  8840.  
  8841.     Niestety Laszlo nie wprowadzil kluczy, dlategotez otrzymasz emailem
  8842. pelne wersje programow (tak samo bedzie z upgrade'ami).
  8843.  
  8844.     Zamierzam zebrac najpierw kilka zgloszen, aby za jednym razem
  8845. wyslac kase dla Laszlo Toroka wiec badz cierpliwy, a w razie jakichkolwiek
  8846. niejasnosci wal na priva!
  8847.  
  8848.     W przypadku zmiany adresu lub tymczasowej przerwie w dostepie do
  8849. sieci prosze mnie niezwlocznie powiadomic.
  8850.  
  8851.  
  8852.     Oto aktualna lista osob zainteresowanych rejestracja Savage'a i AVId'a:
  8853.  
  8854. 1. Andrzej Gorny <agorny@dns.herbial.pl>             Savage, AVId
  8855. 2. Robert Witkowicz <abrasax@student.uci.agh.edu.pl> Savage, AVId
  8856. 3. Norbert Pietraszek <jigit2@friko2.onet.pl>        AVId
  8857. 4. At0m <at0m@friko.onet.pl>                         AVId
  8858. 5. Adam Mateja <matejaa@gss.abis.lodz.pl>            AVId
  8859. 6. Mariusz Porebski <bestia@ds14.agh.edu.pl>         Savage, AVId
  8860. 7. Szymon Matuszewski                                AVId
  8861. 8. oraz ja Marek Telecki                             Savage, AVId
  8862.  
  8863.     Prosze wszystkich o dopelnienie wszelkich w/w formalnosci, a
  8864. przyspieszy to i usprawni procedure rejestracji.
  8865.  
  8866. Moj adres:    Marek Telecki
  8867.               Gdanska 226/6
  8868.               85-674 Bydgoszcz
  8869.               tel. 052 372-13-16 (po 18-ej)
  8870.  
  8871.     To na razie tyle, czekam na kolejne zgloszenia i pozdrawiam
  8872. wszystkich sympatykow naszej Przyjaciolki :-)
  8873. Nara
  8874.  
  8875.  Marek Telecki / FST / S.O.S. Team *AMIGA*
  8876.    A1240T@40/34MB/CV3D/Z2/M1438/3GB/CD8x
  8877. -=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D=
  8878. -=3D-=3D-
  8879.    mailto: telly@box43.gnet.pl
  8880.            sos@vena.telbank.pl
  8881.  
  8882.  
  8883. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 10 13:43:23 1998
  8884. Received: from butler.medianet.pl (root@butler.medianet.com.pl [195.116.184.2]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA20941 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 13:16:48 +0100 (MET)
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  8890.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 13:16:27 GMT
  8891. From: Artur Muszynski <amst@union.org.pl>
  8892. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  8893. Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:41:56 +0100
  8894. Message-ID: <yam7373.2819.122292760@mail.union.org.pl>
  8895. In-Reply-To: <yam7372.1580.120462816@priv.onet.pl>
  8896. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  8897. Organization: Union
  8898. Subject: Re: 25MHz =>> 40MHz
  8899. MIME-Version: 1.0
  8900. X-ISO-CONVERTED: Yam_ISO2 1.05 (02.11.97) (c) Silver Dream !
  8901. X-YAMISO-UPDATE: ftp://wfmh.man.szczecin.pl/pub/yam_iso2/
  8902. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  8903. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  8904.  
  8905. On 09-Mar-98, Siera wrote:
  8906. > Hi,
  8907. > Czy ktos moze probowal takiego eksperymentu jak wymiana kwarcu 25Mhz
  8908. (50MHz)
  8909. > na 40 MHz(80MHz). chodzi o plyte A3640 rew3.1
  8910.  
  8911. Tak - skutek wiadomy, nawet z CPU 33MHz :-( Na niekt=F3rych egzemplarzach=
  8912.  s=B1
  8913. r=F3wnie=BF problemy z 33MHz, a nawet z 28MHz (np wywalaj=B1 si=EA przy p=
  8914. racy z
  8915. kartami ZIII). Niezale=BFnie od rev. 3.0 czy 3.1.
  8916.  
  8917. -- =
  8918.  
  8919.  
  8920.    // Artur Muszynski (AMST/UNION) A4000/040/EGS
  8921.  \//  e-mail: amst@union.org.pl
  8922.  
  8923. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 10 14:43:14 1998
  8924. Received: from server.fiber.net.pl (server.fiber.net.pl [195.117.208.101]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA21062 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 14:42:22 +0100 (MET)
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  8928.           Tue, 10 Mar 1998 14:41:09 +0100
  8929. From: Miloslaw Smyk <thorgal@amiga.com.pl>
  8930. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  8931. Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 14:07:47 +0100
  8932. Message-ID: <yam7373.2374.139024448@fiber.net.pl>
  8933. In-Reply-To: <3503E7A4.1A83@arcadia.tuniv.szczecin.pl>
  8934. X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 beta10 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
  8935. Organization: W.F.M.H.
  8936. Subject: Re[2]: Cyberstorm 060 do A4000
  8937. MIME-Version: 1.0
  8938. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  8939. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  8940.  
  8941. Cze=B6=E6,
  8942.  
  8943. Dnia 09-Mar-98, Michal Bujak rzek=B3 co nast=EApuje:
  8944.  
  8945. >> CyberMap - jest w zestawie z bibliotek=B1 68060. BlizzMagic, jak nazwa=
  8946.  
  8947. >> wskazuje jest dla Blizzard=F3w.
  8948. > Albo cos zle robie ,albo mam cos nie tak :(
  8949. > cybermap mk2 c:romfile  albo wiesza komputer,albo nie widzi dysow albo
  8950. > mam nadal 3.0
  8951.  
  8952. U mnie poprawnie dzia=B3a tylko najnowsza wersja. Zaci=B1gnij z fazy5.
  8953.  
  8954. >>> -Jak ustawi=EA optymalnie ShapeShiftera przy A4000/060/CV643D (ramu m=
  8955. am do
  8956. >> b=F3lu :)
  8957. >> =
  8958.  
  8959. >> A co tu ustawia=E6? Wybierz tryb z karty i /pajechali/.
  8960. > Sprecyzuje sie... Chodzi mi o ustawienia Chip/Fast/Any w setupie SS
  8961.  
  8962. "Any" i prze=B3=B1cznik "Zaalokuj najpierw pami=EA=E6 dla ROM-u".
  8963.  
  8964. >> cpu060 nie ma po co zaczepia=E6. Jedyne co mo=BFe zrobi=E6 to spowolni=
  8965. =E6
  8966. dzia=B3anie
  8967. >> komputera. Moje zdanie o mcp jest chyba znane, wi=EAc nie b=EAd=EA si=EA=
  8968.  
  8969. powtarzal.
  8970. >> Generalnie, im mniej =B3atek - tym mniej zwieszek.
  8971. > Tzp tylko setpatch ???
  8972.  
  8973. Niekoniecznie. U mnie dla przyk=B3adu w WBStartupie koegzystuj=B1 nast=EA=
  8974. puj=B1ce
  8975. twory:
  8976.  
  8977. MagicMenu                  61756 ----rwed 22-Gru-96    12:37:58
  8978. AssignWedge                 3412 ----rwed 02-Lip-96    23:13:27
  8979. ClickToFront                3904 ----rwed 02-Lip-96    23:13:24
  8980. cgxdpms                     3480 ----rwed 14-Gru-97    14:19:52
  8981. NISClock                    4272 ----rwed 13-Sty-97    20:12:48
  8982. multicx                    25224 ----rwed 12-Maj-97    17:37:28
  8983. GlobalTrash                80416 ----rwed 01-Mar-98    15:40:12
  8984. CycleToMenu                24612 ----rwed 02-Lip-96    23:13:28
  8985. RTPatch                    24468 ----rwed 02-Lip-96    23:13:27
  8986.  
  8987. a i w user-startup by si=EA troch=EA znalaz=B3o: Executive, DynamiCache,
  8988. StopFlash, BetterEdit.
  8989.  
  8990.  
  8991. Hej,
  8992. Mi=B3ek
  8993. -- =
  8994.  
  8995. mailto:thorgal@amiga.com.pl   |  "Man in the Moon and other weird things"=
  8996.  -
  8997. http://wfmh.org.pl/~thorgal/  |  see it at http://wfmh.org.pl/~thorgal/Mo=
  8998. on/
  8999.  
  9000. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 10 14:43:31 1998
  9001. Received: from bialystok.computerplus.com.pl (dns.bialystok.computerplus.com.pl [195.117.135.1]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA21047 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 14:38:50 +0100 (MET)
  9002. From: Krzysztof.Jancewicz@bialystok.computerplus.com.pl
  9003. Received: by bialystok.computerplus.com.pl(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.1 (385.6 5-6-1997))  id C12565C3.004A345B ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 14:30:30 +0100
  9004. X-Lotus-FromDomain: T-MATIC
  9005. To: amigapl@amiga.com.pl
  9006. Message-ID: <C12565C3.004624D9.00@bialystok.computerplus.com.pl>
  9007. Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 14:30:27 +0100
  9008. Subject: Re: Apollo i 16MB SIMM
  9009. Mime-Version: 1.0
  9010. Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
  9011.  
  9012.  
  9013.      Ja mialem podobny problem z karta APOLLO 1260, wczesniej mialem
  9014. wlozone 16 MB, po wlozeniu 32 MB AMIGA widziala dalej 16MB. Pomoglo
  9015. powtorne wyjecie karty oraz pamieci no i wlozenie wszystkiego w odpowiednie
  9016. miejsca. Wszystko jest od tej pory O.K.
  9017.  
  9018.  
  9019.     // Krzyszof Jancewicz  | mail: Krzysztof.Jancewicz@computerplus.com.pl
  9020. //
  9021. \\ //        (BIF)
  9022. //
  9023.  \// Sprzet: A1200/Apollo 1260 060@50/32MB, PC:P120/16MB, Mac na Amidze
  9024. //
  9025.     ----------------------------------------------------------------------
  9026.  
  9027.  
  9028. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 10 15:43:11 1998
  9029. Received: from server.fiber.net.pl (server.fiber.net.pl [195.117.208.101]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA21280 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 15:43:03 +0100 (MET)
  9030. Received: from server.fiber.net.pl
  9031.           (pppb14.szczecin.tpnet.pl [195.205.239.14])
  9032.           by server.fiber.net.pl (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with SMTP
  9033.           id AAB13056 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>;
  9034.           Tue, 10 Mar 1998 15:41:49 +0100
  9035. From: Marcin Orlowski <carlos@wfmh.org.pl>
  9036. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  9037. Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:19:45 +0100
  9038. Message-ID: <yam7373.2268.142279928@server.fiber.net.pl>
  9039. In-Reply-To: <yam7372.1537.2015243280@box43.gnet.pl>
  9040. X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 beta10 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
  9041. Organization: W.F.M.H.   (http://wfmh.org.pl)
  9042. Subject: Re: Problem z 32MB =?iso-8859-1?Q?rozwi=B1zany?=
  9043. MIME-Version: 1.0
  9044. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  9045. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  9046.  
  9047. Dnia 09-Mar-98, Piotr Czerniawski napisa=B3:
  9048.  
  9049. > Mam pytanie do posiadaczy PPC - czy mieli problemy, =BFe niekt=F3re SIM=
  9050. M'y nie
  9051. > dzia=B3a=B3y poprawnie?
  9052.  
  9053. Problemy przy u=BFywaniu 70ns pami=EAci z 60nsekundowymi to nie tylko dom=
  9054. ena
  9055. PPC. Ci=EA=BFko uog=F3lnia=E6, gdy=BF wszystko zale=BFy od pami=EAci. Chw=
  9056. ilowo mam jedn=B1
  9057. 70 i system chodzi stabilnie, cho=E6 raz na jaki=B6 czas co=B6 si=EA prze=
  9058. wraca
  9059. i to raczej bez widocznego powodu. Na szcz=EA=B6nie nie jest to na tyle
  9060. cz=EAste aby utrudnia=B3o =BFycie, ale nie wykluczam tej kostki jako przy=
  9061. czyny.
  9062.  
  9063. -- =
  9064.  
  9065.  My software never has bugs. It just develops random features.
  9066.  
  9067.  Marcin                              http://wfmh.org.pl/~carlos/
  9068.                                        mailto:carlos@wfmh.org.pl
  9069.  
  9070.  
  9071. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 10 16:43:06 1998
  9072. Received: from plum.dwd.interkom.pl (dwd.interkom.pl [195.150.21.98]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA21388 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 16:18:05 +0100 (MET)
  9073. Received: from jinks.home (pppa231.krakow.tpnet.pl [195.116.249.245])
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  9075.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 16:17:41 +0100
  9076. Received: from localhost (kamil@localhost)
  9077.     by jinks.home (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id PAA00987
  9078.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 15:56:03 +0100
  9079. Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 15:56:02 +0100 (CET)
  9080. From: Kamil Iskra <kamil@dwd.interkom.pl>
  9081. Reply-To: Kamil Iskra <iskra@student.uci.agh.edu.pl>
  9082. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  9083. Subject: Re: Linux ext2fs
  9084. In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.3.96.980309154224.12822C-100000@cksr>
  9085. Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.980310155443.940A-100000@jinks.home>
  9086. MIME-Version: 1.0
  9087. Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-2
  9088. Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE
  9089.  
  9090. On Mon, 9 Mar 1998, Marcin Juszkiewicz (Szczepan/BlaBla) wrote:
  9091.  
  9092. >   Ostatnio kumpel pytal mnie czy wiem cos o strukturze dysku w ext2fs
  9093. > linuxowym. Niestety moja wiedza tego nie obejmuje wiec pytam was szanowni
  9094. > userzy. Chodzi mi o dokladne info co i jak jest zapisane by mozna bylo
  9095. > napisac na podstawie tego jakis prog do chociaz odczytu takich partycji.=
  9096. =20
  9097.  
  9098. Przypuszczam, =BFe najlepszym =BCr=F3d=B3em informacji b=EAdzie kod =BCr=F3=
  9099. d=B3owy Linuxa.
  9100.  
  9101. > Gotowy program raczej nie wchodzi w rachube, chyba ze bylby z dokladnym
  9102. > sourcem, gdyz chodzi o program raczej na ST niz na Amige.=20
  9103.  
  9104. Wiem, =BFe istnieje tego typu program na PC, chyba pod DOSa, ale nigdy go
  9105. nie widzia=B3em.
  9106.  
  9107. / Kamil Iskra    AmigaOS  Linux/i386  Linux/m68k               \
  9108. | GeekGadgets GCC maintainer   UNIX system administrator       |
  9109. | iskra@student.uci.agh.edu.pl  kiskra@ernie.icslab.agh.edu.pl |
  9110. \ kamil@dwd.interkom.pl   http://student.uci.agh.edu.pl/~iskra /
  9111.  
  9112. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 10 17:13:06 1998
  9113. Received: from onet.pl (root@onet.pl [194.204.188.6]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA21480 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 17:01:29 +0100 (MET)
  9114. Received: from mk (ppp-wct310.katowice.tpnet.pl [195.205.241.10])
  9115.     by onet.pl (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA02718
  9116.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 16:57:40 +0100 (MET)
  9117. From: "Wojciech Kocjan" <kocjan@ka.onet.pl>
  9118. To: "AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi" <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  9119. Subject: Re:   CrossDos7.0
  9120. Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 16:34:21 +0100
  9121. Message-ID: <01bd4c39$ff699bc0$fdfefe01@mk>
  9122. MIME-Version: 1.0
  9123. Content-Type: text/plain;
  9124.     charset="iso-8859-2"
  9125. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
  9126. X-Priority: 3
  9127. X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
  9128. X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3
  9129. X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3
  9130.  
  9131. You wrote:
  9132.  
  9133. >Czesc !!!
  9134. >GDZIE MOZNA ZNALEZC cross dosa7.0 w wersji demo (czy jakiej kolwiek
  9135. >innej). Chce zobaczyc jak sobie radzi z Fatem32.
  9136.  
  9137.  
  9138. Nie radzi sobie w ogole! Fat16 bez problemow (nie wiem, jak z partycjami
  9139. powyzej 2GB).
  9140.  
  9141.  
  9142. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 10 17:13:15 1998
  9143. Received: from box43.gnet.pl (box43.gnet.pl [195.117.182.3]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA21513 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 17:12:32 +0100 (MET)
  9144. Received: from box43.gnet.pl (PiotrCzerniawski@pppa212.szczecin.tpnet.pl [194.204.141.212])
  9145.     by box43.gnet.pl (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA13229
  9146.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 17:10:40 +0100 (CET)
  9147. From: Piotr Czerniawski <piotrcz@box43.gnet.pl>
  9148. To: amigapl@amiga.com.pl
  9149. Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 16:44:18 +0100
  9150. Message-ID: <yam7373.927.2015190944@box43.gnet.pl>
  9151. In-Reply-To: <A729CD6953@eskulap.am.lublin.pl>
  9152. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  9153. Subject: Re: Problem z 32MB =?iso-8859-2?Q?rozwi=B1zany?=
  9154. MIME-Version: 1.0
  9155. X-ISO-CONVERTED: Yam_ISO2 1.06 (17.11.97) (c) Silver Dream !
  9156. X-YAMISO-UPDATE: ftp://wfmh.org.pl/pub/yam_iso2/
  9157. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  9158. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  9159.  
  9160. Witam
  9161.  
  9162. >Jezeli podlaczyles do Blizzka sterownik SCSI i umiesciles na =
  9163.  
  9164. >nim  drugiego SIMMa to opcja z ustawianiem 60ns/70ns nie dziala.
  9165.  
  9166. Dzia=B3a i trzeba przestawi=E6 na 70ns je=BFeli pod=B3=B1czy si=EA SCSI.
  9167. A SCSI nie mam i musia=B3em przestawi=E6 na 70ns :-(
  9168.  
  9169. >Dlatego jest to prawdopodobnie "wina" Blizzarda :-)
  9170.                                                  ^^^
  9171. To ma by=E6 =B6mieszne ?
  9172.  
  9173. >Swoja droga, to bardzo dobra karta....
  9174.  
  9175. Te=BF tak uwa=BFam.
  9176.  
  9177. Pozdrawiam, Piotrek.
  9178.  
  9179. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 10 17:13:22 1998
  9180. Received: from box43.gnet.pl (box43.gnet.pl [195.117.182.3]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA21511 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 17:12:30 +0100 (MET)
  9181. Received: from box43.gnet.pl (PiotrCzerniawski@pppa212.szczecin.tpnet.pl [194.204.141.212])
  9182.     by box43.gnet.pl (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA13208
  9183.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 17:10:36 +0100 (CET)
  9184. From: Piotr Czerniawski <piotrcz@box43.gnet.pl>
  9185. To: AmigaPL <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  9186. Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 16:58:53 +0100
  9187. Message-ID: <yam7373.2656.2015190944@box43.gnet.pl>
  9188. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  9189. Subject: CPU zmiast Blittera
  9190. MIME-Version: 1.0
  9191. X-ISO-CONVERTED: Yam_ISO2 1.06 (17.11.97) (c) Silver Dream !
  9192. X-YAMISO-UPDATE: ftp://wfmh.org.pl/pub/yam_iso2/
  9193. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  9194. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  9195.  
  9196. Witam
  9197.  
  9198. Kidy=B6 kto=B6 chcia=B3 napisa=E6 program kt=F3ry mia=B3 wykorzystywa=E6 =
  9199. procesor zamiast
  9200. blittera. W dzisiejszym Aminecie co=B6 takiego jest:
  9201.  
  9202. FBlit.lha          util/boot  108K+V2.4 Use CPU in place of the blitter.
  9203.  
  9204. Chyba o to chodzi=B3o ?
  9205.  
  9206. Pozdrawiam, Piotrek.
  9207.  
  9208. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 10 17:43:06 1998
  9209. Received: from friko2.onet.pl (root@friko2.onet.pl [194.204.191.6]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA21586 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 17:35:08 +0100 (MET)
  9210. Received: from friko2.onet.pl (karolb@ppp15.tarnobrzeg.tpnet.pl [195.116.243.15])
  9211.           by friko2.onet.pl (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP
  9212.       id RAA29455 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 17:29:26 +0100
  9213. From: Karol Bryd <kbryd@kki.net.pl>
  9214. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  9215. Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 16:56:40 +0200
  9216. Message-ID: <yam7373.2002.6322112@kki.net.pl>
  9217. In-Reply-To: <199803100736.IAA19884@mx1.polbox.com>
  9218. X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview3 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
  9219. Organization: BlaBla
  9220. Subject: Re: Autoscroll
  9221. MIME-Version: 1.0
  9222. Content-Type: text/plain
  9223.  
  9224. On 10-Mar-98, Krzysiek Jonko wrote:
  9225.  
  9226. > Czesc!
  9227. > Pytanie do programistow: otwieram ekran przez OpenScreenTagList m.in. z
  9228. > flaga autoscroll. Ale za diabla nie chce dobrze dzialac - myszka ucieka
  9229. > daleko poza widoczna czesc ekranu nie przesuwajac go. Co jeszcze trzeba
  9230. > zrobic - ustawic zakres widzialnosci myszy czy co?
  9231.  
  9232. Oto dzialajacy przyklad:
  9233.  
  9234.     scr = OpenScreenTags(NULL,
  9235.                SA_Width, 1640,
  9236.                SA_Height, 256,
  9237.                SA_Depth, 1,
  9238.                SA_Type, CUSTOMSCREEN,
  9239.                SA_DisplayID, 0x8000,
  9240.                SA_Overscan, OSCAN_TEXT,
  9241.                SA_AutoScroll, TRUE,
  9242.                SA_BackFill, LAYERS_NOBACKFILL,
  9243.                TAG_END);
  9244.  
  9245. Byc moze bedziesz musial ustawic preferencje dla screen'ow w
  9246. Prefs/ScreenModes,
  9247. w sumie moge dac glowe ;) ze nie ustawiles tam ptaszka AutoSscroll przy
  9248. danym rodzaju screen'u.
  9249.  
  9250. -- 
  9251. Karol Bryd       |   http://www.gliwice.pl/~thufor  |  // Team *AMIGA*
  9252. kbryd@kki.net.pl |Author of util/time/2b_DailyUP.lha|\X/  & BLABLA Member
  9253.  
  9254. As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error.  -- Weisert
  9255.  
  9256. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 10 18:13:06 1998
  9257. Received: from www.kki.net.pl (www.kki.net.pl [195.116.9.70]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA21609 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 17:45:19 +0100 (MET)
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  9260.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 17:32:51 +0100
  9261. From: Karol Bryd <kbryd@kki.net.pl>
  9262. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  9263. Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 16:49:23 +0200
  9264. Message-ID: <yam7373.1165.6322112@kki.net.pl>
  9265. In-Reply-To: <3505074C.103EC17F@linux2.pzuzycie.com.pl>
  9266. X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview3 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
  9267. Organization: BlaBla
  9268. Subject: Re: jak wyslac list ?
  9269. MIME-Version: 1.0
  9270. Content-Type: text/plain
  9271.  
  9272. On 10-Mar-98, jurek wrote:
  9273.  
  9274. > do grupy comp.sys.amiga na news.icm.edu.pl
  9275. > co wpisac jako adres ?
  9276.  
  9277. adres grupy, tylko nie probuj tego robic w emailerze (np. YAM).
  9278. Do grup dyskusyjnych sa potrzebne inne programy np. FFNews, Grn.
  9279.  
  9280. -- 
  9281. Karol Bryd       |   http://www.gliwice.pl/~thufor  |  // Team *AMIGA*
  9282. kbryd@kki.net.pl |Author of util/time/2b_DailyUP.lha|\X/  & BLABLA Member
  9283.  
  9284. Simon's Law:
  9285. Everything put together falls apart sooner or later.
  9286.  
  9287. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 10 19:13:07 1998
  9288. Received: from server.fiber.net.pl (server.fiber.net.pl [195.117.208.101]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA21800 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 19:05:36 +0100 (MET)
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  9293.           Tue, 10 Mar 1998 19:04:21 +0100
  9294. From: Admin <owner-amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  9295. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  9296. Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 16:47:00 +0100
  9297. Message-ID: <yam7373.17.143075184@server.fiber.net.pl>
  9298. In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.3.96.980309215507.10922A-100000@plus>
  9299. X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 beta10 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
  9300. Organization: W.F.M.H.   (http://wfmh.org.pl)
  9301. MIME-Version: 1.0
  9302. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  9303. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  9304.  
  9305. Dnia 09-Mar-98, Grzegorz Junka napisa=B3:
  9306.  
  9307. > delete mateusz@fox.ds14.agh.edu.pl
  9308.  
  9309. Brawo dla kolejnego, ktory nie mo=BFe zapamieta=E6 ze listserv
  9310. na list=EA zapisany nie jest.
  9311.  
  9312. -- =
  9313.  
  9314.  Admin                           mailto:owner-amigapl@amiga.com.pl
  9315.  
  9316.  
  9317.  
  9318. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 10 19:13:15 1998
  9319. Received: from arka.mtl.pl (root@mtl.pl [195.116.4.4]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA21831 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 19:11:43 +0100 (MET)
  9320. Received: from mtl.pl (one@rmod18.mtl.pl [195.116.164.20]) by arka.mtl.pl (8.8.7/8.6.12) with SMTP id TAA19816; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 19:09:16 +0100 (MET)
  9321. From: Filip Kopec <one@mtl.pl>
  9322. To: Multiple recipients of list AMIGA <amiga@plearn.edu.pl>,
  9323.         WFMH nowa lista <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  9324. Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 19:07:53 +0100
  9325. Message-ID: <yam7373.2672.2015703208@arka.mtl.pl>
  9326. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  9327. Subject: CDROM...
  9328. MIME-Version: 1.0
  9329. Content-Type: text/plain
  9330.  
  9331. Witam!
  9332.  
  9333. Mam pytanko o cdroma...
  9334. Aztech 268-03I SE ...czy to bedzie dzialac z Amiga i jakiej jest predkosci?
  9335.  
  9336. Dzieki.
  9337. -- 
  9338.  Filip Kopec   mailto:one@mtl.pl
  9339.  
  9340. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 10 20:43:07 1998
  9341. Received: from friko.onet.pl (friko.onet.pl [194.204.191.9]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA22153 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 20:33:48 +0100 (MET)
  9342. Received: from priv.onet.pl (at0m@ppp182.gdynia.tpnet.pl [194.204.135.182])
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  9344.       id UAA02664 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 20:21:23 +0100
  9345. From: At0m <at0m@friko.onet.pl>
  9346. To: WFMH AmigaPL <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  9347. Date: Mon, 09 Mar 1998 22:53:24 -0000
  9348. Message-ID: <yam7372.1218.2015472448@priv.onet.pl>
  9349. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  9350. Organization: Amiga Scene
  9351. Subject: ScanDubler
  9352. MIME-Version: 1.0
  9353. X-ISO-CONVERTED: Yam_ISO2 1.06 (17.11.97) (c) Silver Dream !
  9354. X-YAMISO-UPDATE: ftp://wfmh.org.pl/pub/yam_iso2/
  9355. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  9356. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  9357.  
  9358. heyka
  9359.  
  9360. W=B3a=B6nie sta=B3em si=EA "szcz=EA=B6liwym" posiadaczem ScanDublera firm=
  9361. y Micronik.
  9362. Nawet uda=B3o si=EA toto cudo pod=B3=B1czy=E6 za pierwszym razem. Odpali=B3=
  9363. o si=EA
  9364. boot menu (nawet fajne, pixele kwadratowe jak na  pc) wgra=B3 sie Workben=
  9365. ch
  9366. i tu niespodzianka - szare ramki wok=F3=B3 WB. Pod=B3=B1czam monitor do g=
  9367. niazda RGB
  9368. i ramki s=B1 czarne (BlackBorder dzia=B3a). Nie wiem czy to wina mojej Am=
  9369. igi czy
  9370. te=BF
  9371. ScanDubler jest tak skonstruowany =BFe *ZAWSZE* wyswietla ramki w kolorze=
  9372.  
  9373. zerowym. =
  9374.  
  9375.  
  9376. Og=F3lnie jest spoks demka dzia=B3aja jak nale=BFy, tylko ten Workbench z=
  9377.  szarymi
  9378. ramkami
  9379. wygl=B1da *tragicznie.* Pr=F3bowa=B3em tysi=B1ce patchy, wszystkie tryby,=
  9380.  miesza=B3em
  9381. MonED'em i niestety nic na nie nie mo=BFna poradzic. A mo=BFe po prostu m=
  9382. am
  9383. walni=EAtego
  9384. ScanDublera? =
  9385.  
  9386. -- =
  9387.  
  9388.     ,,,  ---------------------  ,,,
  9389.    (o.o) |  *AT0M / SUSPECT*   | (o.o)
  9390.    =A4(=3D)=A4 |     3D - GFX      | =A4(=3D)=A4
  9391.      +   |<at0m@priv.onet.pl>|   +
  9392.      ^   ---------------------   ^
  9393.           AmiScenePage Owner
  9394.       *www.kompit.com.pl/~joker*
  9395.  
  9396. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 10 21:43:11 1998
  9397. Received: from tryton.kaszub.top.pl (tryton.kaszub.top.pl [195.116.50.3]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA22293 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 21:35:03 +0100 (MET)
  9398. Received: from key.net.pl (cerber@not_used [195.116.50.24] (may be forged))
  9399.     by tryton.kaszub.top.pl (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA19810
  9400.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 21:33:10 +0100
  9401. From: Piotr =?iso-8859-2?Q?Ka=BCmierczak?= <cerber@key.net.pl>
  9402. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  9403. Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 18:25:55 -0000
  9404. Message-ID: <yam7373.2761.127170704@195.116.50.3>
  9405. In-Reply-To: <yam7372.1552.5179160@iarsun1.iar.wat.waw.pl>
  9406. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  9407. Organization: Appendix
  9408. Subject: Re: CrossDos7.0
  9409. MIME-Version: 1.0
  9410. X-ISO-CONVERTED: Yam_ISO2 1.06 (17.11.97) (c) Silver Dream !
  9411. X-YAMISO-UPDATE: ftp://wfmh.org.pl/pub/yam_iso2/
  9412. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  9413. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  9414.  
  9415. Dnia 09-Mar-98, Janusz Golicz napisa=B3:
  9416. >Baw sie dobrze.
  9417. >J.G.
  9418. Dzi=EAki.
  9419. P.K.
  9420.  
  9421. Fajnie. Zawsze 550kb wys=B3a=E6 na list=EA to fajna sprawa, nie?
  9422. P.K.
  9423.  
  9424.  
  9425. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 10 22:43:07 1998
  9426. Received: from friko2.onet.pl (root@friko2.onet.pl [194.204.191.6]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA22419 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 22:26:49 +0100 (MET)
  9427. Received: from friko2.onet.pl (Miva@ppp152b.gdansk.tpnet.pl [194.204.134.152])
  9428.           by friko2.onet.pl (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP
  9429.       id WAA25975 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 22:21:07 +0100
  9430. From: Marek Statkiewicz <miva@friko2.onet.pl>
  9431. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  9432. Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 14:07:37 +0100
  9433. Message-ID: <yam7373.1870.121285248@friko2.onet.pl>
  9434. In-Reply-To: <yam7372.1580.120462816@priv.onet.pl>
  9435. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  9436. Subject: Re: 25MHz =>> 40MHz
  9437. MIME-Version: 1.0
  9438. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
  9439. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  9440.  
  9441. Heja!
  9442.  
  9443. Dnia 09-Mar-98, Siera napisa=EE:
  9444. >Hi,
  9445. >Czy ktos moze probowal takiego eksperymentu jak wymiana kwarcu 25Mhz (50=
  9446. MHz)
  9447. >na 40 MHz(80MHz). chodzi o plyte A3640 rew3.1
  9448.  
  9449. Probowalem 40 MHz oraz 33 Mhz. W obu przypadkach komputer nie ruszyl.
  9450.  
  9451. Pozdrawiam
  9452.  
  9453. -- =
  9454.  
  9455. +-------+---------------------------+----------------------+
  9456. |       |  Fido: 2:481/60.4@fidonet | #Member of TEAM AMIGA# |
  9457. | *MIVA*  |E-mail: miva@friko2.onet.pl| A4000T/40 CV64/18Mb/ |
  9458. |       |   IRC: Miva #amisia       | 1.6Gb,420Mb/x16/33600|
  9459. +-------+---------------------------+----------------------+
  9460.  
  9461. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 10 22:43:19 1998
  9462. Received: from friko2.onet.pl (root@friko2.onet.pl [194.204.191.6]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA22424 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 22:27:01 +0100 (MET)
  9463. Received: from friko2.onet.pl (Miva@ppp152b.gdansk.tpnet.pl [194.204.134.152])
  9464.           by friko2.onet.pl (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP
  9465.       id WAA25997 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 22:21:14 +0100
  9466. From: Marek Statkiewicz <miva@friko2.onet.pl>
  9467. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  9468. Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 14:14:45 +0100
  9469. Message-ID: <yam7373.2259.121285248@friko2.onet.pl>
  9470. In-Reply-To: <199803100641.HAA28678@www.kki.net.pl>
  9471. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  9472. Subject: Re: Czy oplaca sie kupno Picasso IV ?
  9473. MIME-Version: 1.0
  9474. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
  9475. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  9476.  
  9477. Dnia 10-Mar-98, Marcin Soko=B3owski napisa=EE:
  9478. >Czesc !
  9479.  
  9480. >Przepraszam, ze na liste, ale tu moge znalezc najlepsze opinie :)
  9481. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
  9482. Do czego to doszlo?! Czlowiek boi sie wyslac na liste pytanie dotyczace A=
  9483. migi!
  9484. :(
  9485.  
  9486. [ciach]
  9487.  
  9488. Mam nadzieje, ze Ani Marcin, ani ja nie dostaniemy noposta ;)
  9489.  
  9490. Pozdrawiam
  9491.  
  9492. -- =
  9493.  
  9494. +-------+---------------------------+----------------------+
  9495. |       |  Fido: 2:481/60.4@fidonet | #Member of TEAM AMIGA# |
  9496. | *MIVA*  |E-mail: miva@friko2.onet.pl| A4000T/40 CV64/18Mb/ |
  9497. |       |   IRC: Miva #amisia       | 1.6Gb,420Mb/x16/33600|
  9498. +-------+---------------------------+----------------------+
  9499.  
  9500. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 10 23:13:07 1998
  9501. Received: from student.uci.agh.edu.pl (ramix@student.uci.agh.edu.pl [149.156.98.60]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA22486 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 22:44:12 +0100 (MET)
  9502. Received: from localhost (ramix@localhost) by student.uci.agh.edu.pl (8.8.6/8.8.5/ts-tmpl.970124) with SMTP
  9503.        id WAA08999 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 22:43:27 +0100 (MET)
  9504. Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 22:43:26 +0100 (MET)
  9505. From: Grzegorz Junka <ramix@student.uci.agh.edu.pl>
  9506. X-Sender: ramix@student
  9507. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  9508. Subject: Re: Czy oplaca sie kupno Picasso IV ?
  9509. In-Reply-To: <199803100641.HAA28678@www.kki.net.pl>
  9510. Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.95.980310223841.8183C-100000@student>
  9511. MIME-Version: 1.0
  9512. Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
  9513.  
  9514.  
  9515. > Czy oplaca sie kupno karty Picasso IV za 700 zl ? Slyszalem troche o CV64 3D, ale o Picasso IV tylko tyle, ile przeczytalem w MA - a wolalbym opinie uzytkownikow.
  9516. > A moze lepiej poczekac troche i dolozyc do CyberVision PPC ?
  9517.  
  9518. Ja osobiscie to wolalbym poczekac na karte do PPC, pod warunkiem jednakze,
  9519. ze nie bylo by to czekanie na koniec swiata :)
  9520.  
  9521. --
  9522. ,x8#*^"  Member of Amiga Promotion Group and fanatic AMIGA user        #
  9523. $#+'                    Grzegorz Junka "Bastian"                      ,#
  9524. #8                    ramix@student.uci.agh.edu.pl                    $#
  9525. #'                                                                  ,8#8
  9526. #           A1200Inf 040/40Bliz 32Mb 1.6Gb 12x 1942S CN40BC      .v*#8x'
  9527.  
  9528. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 10 23:13:15 1998
  9529. Received: from tryton.kaszub.top.pl (tryton.kaszub.top.pl [195.116.50.3]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA22535 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 23:06:29 +0100 (MET)
  9530. Received: from key.net.pl (cerber@modem4 [195.116.50.14])
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  9532.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 23:04:35 +0100
  9533. From: Piotr =?iso-8859-2?Q?Ka=BCmierczak?= <cerber@key.net.pl>
  9534. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  9535. Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 21:38:21 -0000
  9536. Message-ID: <yam7373.1091.124725464@195.116.50.3>
  9537. In-Reply-To: <yam7372.1218.2015472448@priv.onet.pl>
  9538. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  9539. Organization: Appendix
  9540. Subject: Re: ScanDubler
  9541. MIME-Version: 1.0
  9542. X-ISO-CONVERTED: Yam_ISO2 1.06 (17.11.97) (c) Silver Dream !
  9543. X-YAMISO-UPDATE: ftp://wfmh.org.pl/pub/yam_iso2/
  9544. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  9545. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  9546.  
  9547. Dnia 09-Mar-98, At0m napisa=B3:
  9548.  
  9549. >W=B3a=B6nie sta=B3em si=EA "szcz=EA=B6liwym" posiadaczem ScanDublera fir=
  9550. my Micronik.
  9551. Powodzenia w dalszej ekspoatacji! :)
  9552.  
  9553. >boot menu (nawet fajne, pixele kwadratowe jak na  pc) wgra=B3 sie Workbe=
  9554. nch
  9555. >i tu niespodzianka - szare ramki wok=F3=B3 WB. Pod=B3=B1czam monitor do =
  9556. gniazda RGB
  9557. Fakt! U moich trzech koleg=F3w r=F3wnie=BF s=B1 szare ramki. Chyba to jed=
  9558. nak babol w
  9559. budowie scandoubler'a, a nie wiena pojedynczego egzemplarza. Wygl=B1da to=
  9560.  
  9561. faktycznie fatalnie! :(
  9562.  
  9563. -- =
  9564.  
  9565. Kemo Sabay!
  9566.  
  9567. Piotr Kazmierczak          cERBEr of aPPENDIx                  ICQ: 46915=
  9568. 17
  9569. cerber@key.net.pl          http://www.key.net.pl/~cerber       Team AMIGA=
  9570.  
  9571. cerber@airi.plukwa.pdi.net Amiga Integrated Regsite Initiative FidoNet:
  9572. A3000T/030/CV643D/14MB     Radioactive BBS 058-6216107         2:481/60.3=
  9573.  
  9574.  
  9575. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 10 23:13:21 1998
  9576. Received: from student.uci.agh.edu.pl (ramix@student.uci.agh.edu.pl [149.156.98.60]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA22538 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 23:07:01 +0100 (MET)
  9577. Received: from localhost (ramix@localhost) by student.uci.agh.edu.pl (8.8.6/8.8.5/ts-tmpl.970124) with SMTP
  9578.        id XAA09897 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 23:06:06 +0100 (MET)
  9579. Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 23:06:05 +0100 (MET)
  9580. From: Grzegorz Junka <ramix@student.uci.agh.edu.pl>
  9581. X-Sender: ramix@student
  9582. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  9583. Subject: Re: your mail
  9584. In-Reply-To: <yam7373.17.143075184@server.fiber.net.pl>
  9585. Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.95.980310230447.8183H-100000@student>
  9586. MIME-Version: 1.0
  9587. Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-2
  9588. Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE
  9589.  
  9590.  
  9591. > > delete mateusz@fox.ds14.agh.edu.pl
  9592. >=20
  9593. > Brawo dla kolejnego, ktory nie mo=BFe zapamieta=E6 ze listserv
  9594. > na list=EA zapisany nie jest.
  9595. >=20
  9596. > --=20
  9597. >  Admin                           mailto:owner-amigapl@amiga.com.pl
  9598.  
  9599. Dziekuje!!!
  9600.  
  9601. ps. Myslalem, ze Admin swieci przykladem i nie odpowiada na glupie listy?
  9602. :-)
  9603.  
  9604. --
  9605. ,x8#*^"  Member of Amiga Promotion Group and fanatic AMIGA user        #
  9606. $#+'                    Grzegorz Junka "Bastian"                      ,#
  9607. #8                    ramix@student.uci.agh.edu.pl                    $#
  9608. #'                                                                  ,8#8
  9609. #           A1200Inf 040/40Bliz 32Mb 1.6Gb 12x 1942S CN40BC      .v*#8x'
  9610.  
  9611. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 10 23:43:12 1998
  9612. Received: from friko.onet.pl (friko.onet.pl [194.204.191.9]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA22689 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 23:42:33 +0100 (MET)
  9613. Received: from friko.onet.pl (ppp@dialup17.inet.com.pl [195.116.59.66])
  9614.           by friko.onet.pl (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP
  9615.       id XAA31945; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 23:29:42 +0100
  9616. From: =?iso-8859-2?Q?Micha=EE?= Bujak <takeoff@friko.onet.pl>
  9617. To: Lista dyskusyjna uzytkownikow komputera <AMIGA@PLEARN.EDU.PL>,
  9618.         AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  9619. Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 22:33:06 -0500
  9620. Message-ID: <yam7373.341.137158184@friko.onet.pl>
  9621. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.3a [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  9622. Subject: Kick 3.1
  9623. MIME-Version: 1.0
  9624. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  9625. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  9626.  
  9627. Witam...
  9628.  
  9629. Czy ktos moglby podeslac mi image kickstartu 3.1 do A4000 . Od A1200 nie =
  9630. dziala !!!
  9631.  
  9632. Na priv oczywiscie !!!
  9633.  
  9634. Dzieki...
  9635. -- =
  9636.  
  9637. []----------------------------------------------=3D=3D[]
  9638. ][ Micha=EE _tAKEoFF_ Bujak #Amiga Only :)#            ][
  9639. [] Primary... takeoff@priv.onet.pl                []
  9640. ][ Secondary. takeoff@arcadia.tuniv.szczecin.pl   ][
  9641. ][=3D=3D--------------------------------------------=3D=3D[]
  9642.  
  9643. From owner-amigapl  Wed Mar 11 00:43:12 1998
  9644. Received: from mx1.polbox.com (root@mx1.polbox.com [195.116.5.16]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA22862 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 00:33:39 +0100 (MET)
  9645. Received: from polbox.com (Gobo@ppp207.bydgoszcz.tpnet.pl [194.204.139.207])
  9646.     by mx1.polbox.com (8.8.8/rev-A0) with SMTP id AAA24909
  9647.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 00:34:43 +0100
  9648. From: Adam Lewandowski <leware3@polbox.com>
  9649. Reply-To: leware3@polbox.com
  9650. To: amigapl@amiga.com.pl
  9651. Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 00:29:50 +0100
  9652. Message-ID: <yam7374.2507.19287264@smtp.polbox.com>
  9653. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  9654. Organization: Chata privata
  9655. Subject: Ten pierwszy raz...
  9656. MIME-Version: 1.0
  9657. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
  9658. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  9659.  
  9660. Cze=F4=EA!
  9661.  
  9662. Pozdrawiam wszystkich obecnych na li=F4cie!
  9663. Jak znajd=EB ciekawy temat to si=EB w=EE=E2cz=EB do dyskusji.
  9664. Pracuj=EB w serwisie Epsona w Bydgoszczy i je=F4li macie jakie=F4 pytania=
  9665.  o drukarki
  9666. to zapraszam na priva.
  9667.  
  9668. Pozdrawiam.
  9669. LeWaR
  9670.  
  9671. -- =
  9672.  
  9673.                  -+-------------------------------------+-
  9674.                /  |      LeWaR - Adam Lewandowski       | \     =
  9675.  
  9676.               |   | A1200T 040/33MHz 34MB RAM 2,5GB HDD |  |
  9677.                \  |         leware3@polbox.com          | /
  9678.                  -+-------------------------------------+-
  9679.  
  9680.  
  9681. ----- [ REKLAMA / ADVERTISEMENT ] ------------------------
  9682.  
  9683. Zostan Autoryzowanym Partnerem Polbox On-Line Service!
  9684. Szczegoly:  http://www.polbox.pl/98partner.html
  9685.  
  9686. ----------------------------------------------------------
  9687.  
  9688. From owner-amigapl  Wed Mar 11 01:13:08 1998
  9689. Received: from friko.onet.pl (friko.onet.pl [194.204.191.9]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA22955 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 01:01:10 +0100 (MET)
  9690. Received: from friko.onet.pl (ppp@ppp53.wloclawek.tpnet.pl [195.116.247.53])
  9691.           by friko.onet.pl (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP
  9692.       id AAA08270 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 00:48:31 +0100
  9693. From: RHS Linux User <malafifi@friko.onet.pl>
  9694. Reply-To: malafifi@friko.onet.pl
  9695. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  9696. Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 00:52:32 +0100
  9697. Message-ID: <yam7374.1643.2015176984@priv.onet.pl>
  9698. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  9699. Organization: SIEDZIBA =?iso-8859-2?Q?DIAB=A3A?=
  9700. Subject: asl.library
  9701. MIME-Version: 1.0
  9702. X-ISO-CONVERTED: Yam_ISO2 1.03 (15.10.97) (c) Silver Dream !
  9703. X-YAMISO-UPDATE: ftp://wfmh.man.szczecin.pl/pub/yam_iso2/
  9704. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  9705. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  9706.  
  9707. Hej.
  9708. Zauwa=BFy=B3em =BFe wywo=B3anie AslRequest() po wyj=B6ciu z programu zabi=
  9709. era sobie za
  9710. ka=BFdym razem
  9711. r=F3wniutkie 80 bajt=F3w.Czy to jaki=B6 bug w funkcji?Jak zrobi=B3em wy=B3=
  9712. =B1cznie
  9713. AllocAslRequest()
  9714. i FreeAslRequest() pami=EA=E6 by=B3a zwracana w ca=B3o=B6ci.O co chodzi
  9715. -- =
  9716.  
  9717.               ---------------------------------------------------
  9718.               |     RHS Linux User znany jako Andrzej P=EAczak    |
  9719.               | A1k2 z dodatkami E-mial: malafifi@friko.onet.pl |
  9720.               ---------------------------------------------------
  9721.  
  9722. From owner-amigapl  Wed Mar 11 08:43:46 1998
  9723. Received: from zeus.polsl.gliwice.pl (ololo@zeus.polsl.gliwice.pl [157.158.1.3]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA25308 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 08:26:29 +0100 (MET)
  9724. Received: from localhost (ololo@localhost) by zeus.polsl.gliwice.pl with SMTP (8.8.6/8.7.3) id IAA09120 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 08:24:28 +0100 (MET)
  9725. Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 08:24:27 +0100 (MET)
  9726. From: Aleksander Salwa <ololo@zeus.polsl.gliwice.pl>
  9727. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  9728. Subject: Apollo 040
  9729. In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.3.96.980310155443.940A-100000@jinks.home>
  9730. Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.95.980311082202.5512C-100000@zeus.polsl.gliwice.pl>
  9731. MIME-Version: 1.0
  9732. Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
  9733.  
  9734.  
  9735.     Pytam raz jeszcze, bo nie wierze, ze nikt nie wie:
  9736.  
  9737. Ktorego programu do kopiowania ROMu do FASTu uzywac
  9738. z Apollo 1240 ?
  9739.  
  9740.     Za odpowiedz z gory dziekuje !
  9741.  
  9742. __________________________________________________________________________
  9743. Aleksander Salwa ----------------------------- ololo@zeus.polsl.gliwice.pl
  9744.  
  9745. From owner-amigapl  Wed Mar 11 10:13:08 1998
  9746. Received: from david.silesia.pik-net.pl (david.silesia.pik-net.pl [195.82.176.1]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA25443 for <amigapl@wfmh.org.pl>; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 10:11:50 +0100 (MET)
  9747. Received: from mail.soft-eks.com.pl. (mail.soft-eks.com.pl [195.82.177.18])
  9748.     by david.silesia.pik-net.pl (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA00569;
  9749.     Wed, 11 Mar 1998 10:09:20 +0100
  9750. Received: from SOFT_EKSPERT/SpoolDir by mail.soft-eks.com.pl. (Mercury 1.21);
  9751.     11 Mar 98 10:11:00 +1100
  9752. Received: from SpoolDir by SOFT_EKSPERT (Mercury 1.21); 11 Mar 98 10:10:49 +1100
  9753. From: "Dariusz Kleina" <AMIGA@soft-eks.com.pl>
  9754. To: Amiga@plearn.edu.pl, amigapl@wfmh.org.pl
  9755. Date:          Wed, 11 Mar 1998 10:10:40 
  9756. MIME-Version:  1.0
  9757. Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
  9758. Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
  9759. Subject:       MountDos + CrossDos 7.0 ? fat 32
  9760. X-Confirm-Reading-To: "Dariusz Kleina" <AMIGA@soft-eks.com.pl.>
  9761. X-pmrqc:       1
  9762. Priority: normal
  9763. X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.22
  9764. Message-ID: <2E11A93588@mail.soft-eks.com.pl.>
  9765.  
  9766. Czesc !!!
  9767.  
  9768. Pisze jeszcze raz na liste w zwiazku z tematem rzeka. Chodzi mi o 
  9769. "zobaczenie" dysku blaszakowego z Fatem 32. Na liscie przewinelo sie 
  9770. juz kilka maili ktore tlumaczyly jak to zrobic. Jedynym rozwiazaniem
  9771. wg. listowiczow bylo zastosowanie CrossDos-a 7.0 oraz programu 
  9772. mountdos. Uzbroilem sie w oba te programy czyli
  9773. CrossDos-a 7.01 oraz MountDos w wersji 1.00 znajdujacej sie na 
  9774. Amienecie. Jedyne co ten program mi podal to info ze jest podlaczony 
  9775. dysk do Ami ale nie moze rozpoznac struktury. Jako ze do archiwum 
  9776. bylo dolaczone zrodlo w "Amiga E", pozwolilem sobie tam zajrzec i 
  9777. owszem jest Fat12 i Fat16 ale o Facie32 nie ma nawet wzmianki 
  9778. (najprawdopodobniej z tego powodu, ze w momecie powstania programu 
  9779. nikt jeszcze nie myslal o Facie32). W zwiazku z tym mam pytanie do 
  9780. szanownych listowiczow. Czy jest moze nowsza wersja programu MountDos 
  9781. lub moze jest inny program niz w/w, za pomoca ktorego mozna by 
  9782. podpiac dysk blaszakowy. 
  9783.  
  9784. Ps. W powyzszym wywodzie nie chodzi mi o dlugie nazwy. Wielu z was 
  9785. mylilo terminy.
  9786.  
  9787. Ps2. Jezeli ktos ma jakis pomysl (wie jaki program jest to w stanie 
  9788. wykonac to prosze o jakiekolwiek namiary na niego).
  9789.  
  9790.  
  9791. Pozdrawiam
  9792.  
  9793. +--------------------------------------------------------------------+
  9794. | Dariusz Kleina                        Amiga & pC programmer        |
  9795. | mailto:amiga@soft-eks.com.pl         Basic/Pascal/C/C++/Asm        |
  9796. |   A1200, HDD 850, CD-ROM 12x, Mem 2+8 Mb, CPU 030/42, FPU 882/20   |
  9797. +--------------------------------------------------------------------+
  9798.         
  9799. From owner-amigapl  Wed Mar 11 10:43:09 1998
  9800. Received: from friko.onet.pl (friko.onet.pl [194.204.191.9]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA25485 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 10:26:09 +0100 (MET)
  9801. Received: from priv.onet.pl (Siera@pppa38.poznan.tpnet.pl [194.204.178.38])
  9802.           by friko.onet.pl (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP
  9803.       id KAA13625; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 10:12:51 +0100
  9804. From: Siera <sie@friko.onet.pl>
  9805. To: amiga@plearn.edu.pl, amigapl@amiga.com.pl
  9806. Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 09:09:22 +0100
  9807. Message-ID: <yam7374.1120.120295680@priv.onet.pl>
  9808. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  9809. Subject: Poczta w amigowej domenie
  9810. MIME-Version: 1.0
  9811. Content-Type: text/plain
  9812.  
  9813. Hi,
  9814. Tearaz mam juz prawie wszystkie dane a wiec.
  9815. Jako ze zakladam sobie w koncu dzierzawke. Bede mogl wreszcie zalozyc server
  9816. pocztowy.
  9817. Na 99% domena bedzie amiga.pl wiec konto w takiej domenie bedzie wygladalo
  9818. nastepujaco 
  9819. user@amiga.pl bedzie mozliwy takze forward.
  9820. Ceny a wiec tak zalozenie ok 20 zl. a potem na miech ok 8 zl to chyba nie az
  9821. tak wiele.
  9822. Niestety nie wiem czy uda sie zalozyc server smtp, ale bede nad tym
  9823. kombinowal.
  9824. A wiec wszystko w rekach TPSA (na dzierzawke troche sie czeka). A konkurs na
  9825. domene wygrali: 
  9826. AMIGO Sherwood Neuroup (kolejnosc losowa).
  9827. (nie musza placic 20zl tylko od razu 8)
  9828. Cena zalezy glownie od tego ile osob sie zglosi.
  9829. Chetnych przyjmuje juz na liste.
  9830. Prosze o zgloszenie i uwagi 
  9831. Acha bedzie jeszcze strona www do kazdego konta. A pojemnosc no limit ale
  9832. wolal bym aby nikt 5mb nie przekraczal.
  9833.  
  9834.       _____ _ _____ _____________
  9835.      |     | |     |     \       |     A4000/040/25MHz/16Mb/545Mb/CV64
  9836.      |   --| |  ---|  O   |   |  |     mailto: sie@priv.onet.pl
  9837.      |     | |     |     /       |     priv.onet.pl/po/sie/ 
  9838.      |---  | |  ---|  _  \    |  |     Lista przebojow !!!
  9839.      |_____|_|_____|_| \__\___|__|
  9840.  
  9841.   
  9842.      
  9843.       
  9844.       
  9845.  
  9846.  
  9847.  
  9848. From owner-amigapl  Wed Mar 11 10:43:16 1998
  9849. Received: from piast.pertus.com.pl (root@piast.pertus.com.pl [195.116.191.6]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA25468 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 10:18:28 +0100 (MET)
  9850. Received: from default (ppp208.legnica.tpnet.pl [195.116.255.208])
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  9852.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 10:19:29 +0100
  9853. Message-Id: <199803110919.KAA32226@piast.pertus.com.pl>
  9854. From: "sharky" <sharky@pertus.com.pl>
  9855. To: <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  9856. Subject: Ami i TVSat ...
  9857. Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 10:19:14 +0100
  9858. X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
  9859. X-Priority: 3
  9860. X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1157
  9861. MIME-Version: 1.0
  9862. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2
  9863. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  9864.  
  9865. Witam Wszystkich ! (sorry za list na blaszce, ale moge pouzywa=E6 tylko =
  9866. w pracy...)
  9867.  
  9868. Jak by nie bylo, to fakt jest taki, ze pytam o sprawe czesciowo zwiazana =
  9869. z piractwem. M=F3j problem jest taki:
  9870. - mam ja sobie Amisie z prockiem 060, dekoder Nagravision System (np. =
  9871. Canal+) i satelite, rzecz jasna, a ze nie wiem do kogo sie zwrocic to =
  9872. pytam czy w tej sytuacji bede mial mozliwosc zastapienia oryginalnego =
  9873. klucza (Canal+ oczywiscie), ktory zostanie mi odebrany pod koniec =
  9874. kwietnia moja Amisia?
  9875. Jezeli jest to mozliwe, to prosze w odpowiedzi o informacje jak, z jakim =
  9876. oprogramowaniem itp..
  9877. Jak wyglada sprawa z dekodowaniem sygnalu innych kanalow?
  9878. Czy Ami moze zastapic rowniez dekoder?
  9879.  
  9880. Hej!
  9881.  
  9882.         Arkadiusz Winiarek
  9883.   Jawor (woj. legnickie) Poland
  9884.       Amiga 1200, Apollo 060,
  9885.      32 MB RAM HDD 2,1GB
  9886.      priv:
  9887.  primary:     sharky@kki.net.pl
  9888. secondary: sharky@pertus.com.pl
  9889. From owner-amigapl  Wed Mar 11 11:43:08 1998
  9890. Received: from friko.onet.pl (friko.onet.pl [194.204.191.9]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA25661 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 11:42:23 +0100 (MET)
  9891. Received: from friko.onet.pl (ppp39.zgora.tpnet.pl [195.116.244.39])
  9892.           by friko.onet.pl (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP
  9893.       id LAA25484 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 11:28:39 +0100
  9894. From: Irek <irekm@kki.net.pl>
  9895. Reply-To: irekm@kki.net.pl
  9896. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  9897. Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 12:20:57 -0500
  9898. Message-ID: <yam7374.2852.3508408@kki.net.pl>
  9899. In-Reply-To: <yam7373.2672.2015703208@arka.mtl.pl>
  9900. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.3a [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  9901. Subject: Re: CDROM...
  9902. MIME-Version: 1.0
  9903. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  9904. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  9905.  
  9906. Dnia 10-Mar-98, Filip Kopec napisa=EE:
  9907. >Witam!
  9908. Ja te=BF!
  9909.  
  9910. >Mam pytanko o cdroma...
  9911. >Aztech 268-03I SE ...czy to bedzie dzialac z Amiga i jakiej jest predkos=
  9912. ci?
  9913.  
  9914. Ha! Sk=B1d=B6 znane mi jest to oznaczenie :)) Mia=B3em do niedawna taki m=
  9915. odel w
  9916. swojej Amy. Dzia=B3a=B3 og=F3lnie ok. (poza tym, =BFe nie sampluje =B6cie=
  9917. =BFek audio).
  9918. To jest CD Rom x2 (wi=EAc nie najszybszy) ale mia=B3em problemy =BFeby
  9919. wsp=F3=B3pracowa=B3 z moim twardzielem. Nie chcia=B3 dzia=B3a=E6 z HDkiem=
  9920.  Seagate'a
  9921. 540MB i zmusi=B3 mnie do wymiany w/w na Connera... Potem by=B3o ok. Radz=EA=
  9922.  Ci
  9923. aby=B6 najpierw sprawdzi=B3 czy nie b=EAdziesz mia=B3 problem=F3w z HDkie=
  9924. m zanim
  9925. go kupisz.
  9926. Pracowa=B3 z atapi.device i AsimCDFS.
  9927.  
  9928. -- =
  9929.  
  9930. e-mail: irekm@friko.onet.pl      __
  9931. e-mail: irekm@kki.net.pl        // \   HTTP: on prepare
  9932. *Easy work?   - on Amiga*         \__          A1k2+850MB+4MB+CDx8+28800
  9933. *Best system? - on Amiga*            \
  9934. *BIG TROUBLE? - on PC...*         \_// NOWMAN - Amiga Fan 4ever !
  9935.  
  9936. From owner-amigapl  Wed Mar 11 12:13:09 1998
  9937. Received: from mx1.polbox.com (root@mx1.polbox.com [195.116.5.16]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA25706 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 11:58:53 +0100 (MET)
  9938. Received: from krzysiek (pppa245.szczecin.tpnet.pl [194.204.141.245])
  9939.     by mx1.polbox.com (8.8.8/rev-A0) with SMTP id LAA25009
  9940.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 11:59:52 +0100
  9941. Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 11:59:52 +0100
  9942. Message-Id: <199803111059.LAA25009@mx1.polbox.com>
  9943. From: Krzysiek Jonko <kjonko@polbox.com>
  9944. To: Lista WFMH <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  9945. Subject: eTeacher 2.26 update
  9946. MIME-Version: 1.0
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  9948. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
  9949. X-Mailer: Becky! ver 1.23
  9950.  
  9951. To znowu ja 8)
  9952. Jest nowa werjsa ET - z poprawiana obsluga AHI, mozliwoscia wyboru
  9953. ekranu requesterem i z paroma innymi drobiazgami. Moze ktos podesle
  9954. jakies uwagi? Najchetniej dot. AHI...
  9955.  
  9956.       /// Krzysiek Jonko
  9957.      ///  A1200T/040/25Mhz 10MB Ram 8xCD, HP ScanJet 4C
  9958.  \\\///   kjonko@polbox.com
  9959.   \XX/    http://free.polbox.pl/k/kjonko/index.htm
  9960.  
  9961. ----- [ REKLAMA / ADVERTISEMENT ] ------------------------
  9962.  
  9963. Zostan Autoryzowanym Partnerem Polbox On-Line Service!
  9964. Szczegoly:  http://www.polbox.pl/98partner.html
  9965.  
  9966. ----------------------------------------------------------
  9967.  
  9968. From owner-amigapl  Wed Mar 11 13:13:14 1998
  9969. Received: from friko3.onet.pl (friko3.onet.pl [194.204.188.12]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA25827 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 13:00:16 +0100 (MET)
  9970. Received: from ppp74.slupsk.tpnet.pl (lostoczlu@ppp74.slupsk.tpnet.pl [194.204.177.74])
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  9973. Received: by ppp74.slupsk.tpnet.pl with Microsoft Mail
  9974.     id <01BD4CEC.AA3F2620@ppp74.slupsk.tpnet.pl>; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 12:53:18 +-100
  9975. Message-ID: <01BD4CEC.AA3F2620@ppp74.slupsk.tpnet.pl>
  9976. From: Piotr Hoppe <p_hoppe@friko3.onet.pl>
  9977. To: "'AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi'" <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  9978. Subject: StormWizart
  9979. Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 12:52:07 +-100
  9980. MIME-Version: 1.0
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  9987.  
  9988. Hej.
  9989.  
  9990. Mam taki proble: jak nagrac pliki zrodlowe gdy mam juz zaprojektowane GUI?
  9991. Nagrywa mi tylko jakies pliki z *.h gdzie sa same dejlaracje.
  9992. StormWizard 2.0
  9993.  
  9994. Piotr Hoppe
  9995. alias Bruner
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  10026.  
  10027. From owner-amigapl  Wed Mar 11 13:43:09 1998
  10028. Received: from gryzmak.lodz.pdi.net (gryzmak.lodz.pdi.net [195.116.162.1]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA25912 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 13:42:36 +0100 (MET)
  10029. Received: (from arturp@localhost)
  10030.     by gryzmak.lodz.pdi.net (8.8.7/2.1.1/L) id NAA11564;
  10031.     Wed, 11 Mar 1998 13:40:06 +0100
  10032. Message-ID: <19980311134006.41028@plukwa.pdi.net>
  10033. Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 13:40:06 +0100
  10034. From: Artur Pietruk <arturp@plukwa.pdi.net>
  10035. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  10036. Subject: Re: ScanDubler
  10037. References: <yam7372.1218.2015472448@priv.onet.pl>
  10038. Mime-Version: 1.0
  10039. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
  10040. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
  10041. X-Mailer: Mutt 0.83
  10042. In-Reply-To: <yam7372.1218.2015472448@priv.onet.pl>; from At0m on Mon, Mar 09, 1998 at 10:53:24PM -0000
  10043.  
  10044. On Mon, Mar 09, 1998 at 10:53:24PM -0000, At0m wrote:
  10045. > heyka
  10046. > 
  10047. > W³a¶nie sta³em siê "szczê¶liwym" posiadaczem ScanDublera firmy Micronik.
  10048. > Nawet uda³o siê toto cudo pod³±czyæ za pierwszym razem. Odpali³o siê
  10049. > boot menu (nawet fajne, pixele kwadratowe jak na  pc) wgra³ sie Workbench
  10050. > i tu niespodzianka - szare ramki wokó³ WB. Pod³±czam monitor do gniazda RGB
  10051. > i ramki s± czarne (BlackBorder dzia³a). Nie wiem czy to wina mojej Amigi czy
  10052. > te¿
  10053.  
  10054.     To jest "Undocumented feature" (*) tego sacandoublera. A masz
  10055. trojkolorowe paski, tak okolo 10, biegnace od lewej do prawej? Ciekwi mnie
  10056. to bo u mnie sa. Tylko nie jestem pewien czy jest to "Undocumented
  10057. feature" wszystkich egzemplarzy, czy tylko mojego :-)
  10058.  
  10059. > ScanDubler jest tak skonstruowany ¿e *ZAWSZE* wyswietla ramki w kolorze
  10060. > zerowym. 
  10061.  
  10062.     Jest tak skonstruowany.
  10063.  
  10064. > MonED'em i niestety nic na nie nie mo¿na poradzic. A mo¿e po prostu mam
  10065. > walniêtego ScanDublera? 
  10066.  
  10067.     Na szczescie nie.
  10068.  
  10069. (*) Ze slownika dla pracownikow microsoftu.
  10070.  
  10071. Undocumented feature - Documented bug
  10072. .
  10073. .
  10074. Documented bug - Undocumented feature
  10075.  
  10076.     Pozdrawia:
  10077.  
  10078. -- 
  10079. -------------------------------------------------------------------
  10080. - Who  : Artur Pietruk - WebMaster @ PDi - www.pdi.net -      /// -
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  10084.  
  10085.         PGP public key - finger arturp@gryzmak.lodz.pdi.net
  10086.                 "My webpage exist - I've seen it!"
  10087. From owner-amigapl  Wed Mar 11 13:43:20 1998
  10088. Received: from server.fiber.net.pl (server.fiber.net.pl [195.117.208.101]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA25886 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 13:23:10 +0100 (MET)
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  10092.           Wed, 11 Mar 1998 13:21:48 +0100
  10093. From: Miloslaw Smyk <thorgal@amiga.com.pl>
  10094. To: amigapl@amiga.com.pl
  10095. Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 12:51:03 +0100
  10096. Message-ID: <yam7374.166.139241936@fiber.net.pl>
  10097. X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 beta10 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
  10098. Organization: W.F.M.H.
  10099. Subject: Flop pc -> flop do A600
  10100. MIME-Version: 1.0
  10101. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  10102. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  10103.  
  10104. Cze=B6=E6.
  10105.  
  10106. Kumpel zada=B3 mi nast=EApuj=B1ce pytanie:
  10107.  
  10108. "czy wiesz jak przerobic flopa pc na flopa do amigi 600?"
  10109.  
  10110. Ja niestety nie mam poj=EAcia, ale mo=BFe na li=B6cie jest kto=B6 kto wie=
  10111. ?
  10112.  
  10113. Dzi=EAki,
  10114. Mi=B3ek
  10115. -- =
  10116.  
  10117. mailto:thorgal@amiga.com.pl   |  "Man in the Moon and other weird things"=
  10118.  -
  10119. http://wfmh.org.pl/~thorgal/  |  see it at http://wfmh.org.pl/~thorgal/Mo=
  10120. on/
  10121.  
  10122. From owner-amigapl  Wed Mar 11 14:13:09 1998
  10123. Received: from gryzmak.lodz.pdi.net (gryzmak.lodz.pdi.net [195.116.162.1]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA25974 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 13:55:24 +0100 (MET)
  10124. Received: (from arturp@localhost)
  10125.     by gryzmak.lodz.pdi.net (8.8.7/2.1.1/L) id NAA12613;
  10126.     Wed, 11 Mar 1998 13:52:52 +0100
  10127. Message-ID: <19980311135252.50520@plukwa.pdi.net>
  10128. Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 13:52:52 +0100
  10129. From: Artur Pietruk <arturp@plukwa.pdi.net>
  10130. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  10131. Subject: Re: MountDos + CrossDos 7.0 ? fat 32
  10132. References: <2E11A93588@mail.soft-eks.com.pl.>
  10133. Mime-Version: 1.0
  10134. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
  10135. X-Mailer: Mutt 0.83
  10136. In-Reply-To: <2E11A93588@mail.soft-eks.com.pl.>; from Dariusz Kleina on Wed, Mar 11, 1998 at 10:10:40AM +0000
  10137.  
  10138. On Wed, Mar 11, 1998 at 10:10:40AM +0000, Dariusz Kleina wrote:
  10139. > Czesc !!!
  10140. > 
  10141. > Pisze jeszcze raz na liste w zwiazku z tematem rzeka. Chodzi mi o 
  10142. > "zobaczenie" dysku blaszakowego z Fatem 32. Na liscie przewinelo sie 
  10143.  
  10144.     Nie mozna. To wynalazek zastosowany w Win95 OSR2. Dla pocieszenia
  10145. dodam, ze na Pececie ten format jest rozpoznawany wylacznie przez Win95
  10146. OSR2, tak wiec jak ktos przyjdzie z takim dyskiem do kolegi ktory nie ma
  10147. osr2, to sobie nic z dysku nie odczyta :-)
  10148.  
  10149.     Pozdrawia:
  10150.  
  10151. -- 
  10152. -------------------------------------------------------------------
  10153. - Who  : Artur Pietruk - WebMaster @ PDi - www.pdi.net -      /// -
  10154. - Email: arturp@pdi.net IRC: APair TEL: +48 44 7140906 -     ///  -
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  10157.  
  10158.         PGP public key - finger arturp@gryzmak.lodz.pdi.net
  10159.                 "My webpage exist - I've seen it!"
  10160. From owner-amigapl  Wed Mar 11 14:13:17 1998
  10161. Received: from gryzmak.lodz.pdi.net (gryzmak.lodz.pdi.net [195.116.162.1]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA25969 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 13:51:53 +0100 (MET)
  10162. Received: (from arturp@localhost)
  10163.     by gryzmak.lodz.pdi.net (8.8.7/2.1.1/L) id NAA12214;
  10164.     Wed, 11 Mar 1998 13:49:27 +0100
  10165. Message-ID: <19980311134927.48677@plukwa.pdi.net>
  10166. Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 13:49:27 +0100
  10167. From: Artur Pietruk <arturp@plukwa.pdi.net>
  10168. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  10169. Subject: Re: Poczta w amigowej domenie
  10170. References: <yam7374.1120.120295680@priv.onet.pl>
  10171. Mime-Version: 1.0
  10172. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
  10173. X-Mailer: Mutt 0.83
  10174. In-Reply-To: <yam7374.1120.120295680@priv.onet.pl>; from Siera on Wed, Mar 11, 1998 at 09:09:22AM +0100
  10175.  
  10176. On Wed, Mar 11, 1998 at 09:09:22AM +0100, Siera wrote:
  10177. > Na 99% domena bedzie amiga.pl wiec konto w takiej domenie bedzie wygladalo
  10178. > nastepujaco 
  10179.  
  10180.     Tzn. pytales sie juz Nask czy zaloza Tobie taka domene *.pl?
  10181. Wedlug posiadanych prze ze mnie informacji, oni nie lubia zakladac
  10182. czegokolwiek w *.pl. Co nie oznacza ze zle Tobie zycze, bede trzymal
  10183. kciuki :-)
  10184.  
  10185.     Pozdrawia:
  10186.  
  10187. -- 
  10188. -------------------------------------------------------------------
  10189. - Who  : Artur Pietruk - WebMaster @ PDi - www.pdi.net -      /// -
  10190. - Email: arturp@pdi.net IRC: APair TEL: +48 44 7140906 -     ///  -
  10191. - Snail: ul.11 listopada 33a/19 97-140 Koluszki POLAND - \\\///   -
  10192. - Using: AMIGA 4000/40 CV64-3D, A1240T                 -  \\//    -
  10193.  
  10194.         PGP public key - finger arturp@gryzmak.lodz.pdi.net
  10195.                 "My webpage exist - I've seen it!"
  10196. From owner-amigapl  Wed Mar 11 14:13:28 1998
  10197. Received: from gryzmak.lodz.pdi.net (gryzmak.lodz.pdi.net [195.116.162.1]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA25955 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 13:49:25 +0100 (MET)
  10198. Received: (from arturp@localhost)
  10199.     by gryzmak.lodz.pdi.net (8.8.7/2.1.1/L) id NAA12108;
  10200.     Wed, 11 Mar 1998 13:46:54 +0100
  10201. Message-ID: <19980311134653.10875@plukwa.pdi.net>
  10202. Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 13:46:53 +0100
  10203. From: Artur Pietruk <arturp@plukwa.pdi.net>
  10204. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  10205. Subject: Re: asl.library
  10206. References: <yam7374.1643.2015176984@priv.onet.pl>
  10207. Mime-Version: 1.0
  10208. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
  10209. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
  10210. X-Mailer: Mutt 0.83
  10211. In-Reply-To: <yam7374.1643.2015176984@priv.onet.pl>; from RHS Linux User on Wed, Mar 11, 1998 at 12:52:32AM +0100
  10212.  
  10213. On Wed, Mar 11, 1998 at 12:52:32AM +0100, RHS Linux User wrote:
  10214. > Hej.
  10215. > Zauwa¿y³em ¿e wywo³anie AslRequest() po wyj¶ciu z programu zabiera sobie za
  10216. > ka¿dym razem
  10217. > równiutkie 80 bajtów.Czy to jaki¶ bug w funkcji?Jak zrobi³em wy³±cznie
  10218. > AllocAslRequest()
  10219. > i FreeAslRequest() pamiêæ by³a zwracana w ca³o¶ci.O co chodzi
  10220.  
  10221.     Hmm... A moze nie zwrociles bazy biblioteki (closelibrary()) ?
  10222.  
  10223. -- 
  10224. -------------------------------------------------------------------
  10225. - Who  : Artur Pietruk - WebMaster @ PDi - www.pdi.net -      /// -
  10226. - Email: arturp@pdi.net IRC: APair TEL: +48 44 7140906 -     ///  -
  10227. - Snail: ul.11 listopada 33a/19 97-140 Koluszki POLAND - \\\///   -
  10228. - Using: AMIGA 4000/40 CV64-3D, A1240T                 -  \\//    -
  10229.  
  10230.         PGP public key - finger arturp@gryzmak.lodz.pdi.net
  10231.                 "My webpage exist - I've seen it!"
  10232. From owner-amigapl  Wed Mar 11 16:13:09 1998
  10233. Received: from www.kki.net.pl (www.kki.net.pl [195.116.9.70]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA26380 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 16:08:41 +0100 (MET)
  10234. Received: from kki.net.pl (AKM-MAYA@pppa206.szczecin.tpnet.pl [194.204.141.206])
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  10236.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 16:05:19 +0100
  10237. From: Adam Majewski <akmmaya@kki.net.pl>
  10238. Reply-To: Adam Majewski <akmmaya@kki.net.pl>
  10239. To: WFMH-AmigaPL <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  10240. Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 15:54:33 +0100
  10241. Message-ID: <yam7374.1683.1749426608@kki.net.pl>
  10242. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  10243. Subject: No to jestem...
  10244. MIME-Version: 1.0
  10245. X-ISO-CONVERTED: Yam_ISO2 1.06 (17.11.97) (c) Silver Dream !
  10246. X-YAMISO-UPDATE: ftp://wfmh.org.pl/pub/yam_iso2/
  10247. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  10248. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  10249.  
  10250. Cze=B6=E6 wszystkim!!!
  10251. Chcia=B3bym si=EA ze wszystkimi serdecznie przywita=E6 i oznajmi=E6,
  10252. =BFe od dnia 10.03.98 jestem na li=B6cie WFMH-AmigaPL.
  10253.  
  10254. Tak wi=EAc witam wszystkich, hej hej..
  10255.  
  10256. -- =
  10257.  
  10258. Pozdrawiam :-)
  10259.  
  10260. mailto: akmmaya@kki.net.pl
  10261. www: http://www.kki.net.pl/akmmaya
  10262.  
  10263. :-)  w=F3wren  eibos  juCP  ein  (-:
  10264.                                                            Adam Majewski
  10265.  
  10266. From owner-amigapl  Wed Mar 11 16:43:12 1998
  10267. Received: from server.fiber.net.pl (server.fiber.net.pl [195.117.208.101]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA26456 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 16:42:23 +0100 (MET)
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  10270.           for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 16:40:55 +0100
  10271. Received: from kki.net.pl (ppp76.slupsk.tpnet.pl [194.204.177.76])
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  10273.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 16:35:24 +0100
  10274. From: Pawel Golebiewski <wembley@kki.net.pl>
  10275. To: Lista AmigaPL <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  10276. Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 15:41:51 +0300
  10277. Message-ID: <yam7374.2585.21364296@kki.net.pl>
  10278. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  10279. Subject: Karta graficzna - kupie
  10280. MIME-Version: 1.0
  10281. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
  10282. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  10283.  
  10284. 1. Chce kupic karte graficzna i nie wiem jaka wybrac.
  10285. W tej chwili najbardziej popularna jest CyberVision3D.
  10286. Ale czy nie lepiej poczekac na BVisionPPC do A1200 ?
  10287. A moze kupic jakas starsza, a pozniej ja sprzedac
  10288. i kupic jakas pod PPC ???
  10289.  
  10290. 2. Czy z wyjscia CyberVision uzyskam w jakis sposob
  10291. bez przelaczania monitora obraz PAL z wyjscia RGB Amigi
  10292. na monitorze M1438S (bez przelacznika monitora) ?
  10293.  
  10294. 3. Czy do takiego zestawu bede mogl dolozyc jeszcze
  10295. ScanDoubler, abym na jednym monitorze mial wszystkie
  10296. tryby Amigi (PAL->DblPAL, VGA) oraz obraz karty GFX ?
  10297.  
  10298. 4. Czy karta GVP Spectrum 2MB dziala pod systemem
  10299. CyberGraphics ? No i tez w praktyce: czy programy
  10300. i gry dzialajace pod CyberGFX beda dzialaly na tej karcie ?
  10301.  
  10302. #Kupie karte graficzna#
  10303. Jesli ktos z was ma do sprzedania jakas #karte graficzna#
  10304. to prosze o #info# !!! Sprawa jest dla mnie pilna !
  10305.  
  10306. -- =
  10307.  
  10308. *-----------------------------------------------------------*
  10309.       \|/            #Pawel Golebiewski#            \|/      =
  10310.  
  10311.      (=A9_=A9)          #Catv Josat Czluchow#          (=A9_=A9)     =
  10312.  
  10313. -oOO--(O)--OOo-   mail:wembley@kki.net.pl   -oOO--(O)--OOo-
  10314. *-----------------------------------------------------------*
  10315. A1200T/040/25MHz/18MB/1.6GB/1.76MB/CDROM/M1438S/LJIII/33600
  10316.  
  10317. From owner-amigapl  Wed Mar 11 16:43:19 1998
  10318. Received: from www.kki.net.pl (www.kki.net.pl [195.116.9.70]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA26432 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 16:32:22 +0100 (MET)
  10319. Received: from kki.net.pl (ppp76.slupsk.tpnet.pl [194.204.177.76])
  10320.     by www.kki.net.pl (8.8.7/8.8.7.ver6) with SMTP id QAA05122
  10321.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 16:28:30 +0100
  10322. From: Pawel Golebiewski <wembley@kki.net.pl>
  10323. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  10324. Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 14:56:43 +0300
  10325. Message-ID: <yam7374.2195.21364296@kki.net.pl>
  10326. In-Reply-To: <yam7372.1552.5179160@iarsun1.iar.wat.waw.pl>
  10327. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  10328. Subject: Re: CrossDos7.0
  10329. MIME-Version: 1.0
  10330. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
  10331. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  10332.  
  10333. Dnia 09-Mar-98, Janusz Golicz napisa=EE:
  10334. >Baw sie dobrze.
  10335.  
  10336. Bardzo dziekuje. Mam nadzieje ze obywatel JG
  10337. nie jest juz na liscie. Od dwoch dni probowalem
  10338. to sciagnac, a czekalem na waznego maila !
  10339. Serwer KKI zrywal mi za kazdym razem.
  10340. Gdyby nie pomoc od Oplaaa jeszcz bym to ciagnal.
  10341. Bardzo bym prosil Admina o jakis filtr na binaria.
  10342. A moze wyslac mu widokowke mojego miasta
  10343. w 1200 dpi i podziekowac mu osobiscie ?
  10344. A moze wszyscy bysmy tak zrobili ???
  10345.  
  10346. *Oplaaa* ! Dzieki za pomoc w tej sprawie !
  10347.  
  10348. -- =
  10349.  
  10350. *-----------------------------------------------------------*
  10351.       \|/            #Pawel Golebiewski#            \|/      =
  10352.  
  10353.      (=A9_=A9)          #Catv Josat Czluchow#          (=A9_=A9)     =
  10354.  
  10355. -oOO--(O)--OOo-   mail:wembley@kki.net.pl   -oOO--(O)--OOo-
  10356. *-----------------------------------------------------------*
  10357. A1200T/040/25MHz/18MB/1.6GB/1.76MB/CDROM/M1438S/LJIII/33600
  10358.  
  10359. From owner-amigapl  Wed Mar 11 16:43:26 1998
  10360. Received: from www.kki.net.pl (www.kki.net.pl [195.116.9.70]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA26433 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 16:32:23 +0100 (MET)
  10361. Received: from kki.net.pl (ppp76.slupsk.tpnet.pl [194.204.177.76])
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  10363.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 16:30:43 +0100
  10364. From: Pawel Golebiewski <wembley@kki.net.pl>
  10365. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  10366. Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 14:57:10 +0300
  10367. Message-ID: <yam7374.517.21364296@kki.net.pl>
  10368. In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.3.95.980310124245.4035A-100000@mops>
  10369. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  10370. Subject: Re: Apollo i 16MB SIMM
  10371. MIME-Version: 1.0
  10372. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
  10373. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  10374.  
  10375. Dnia 10-Mar-98, LeMUr of blabla (Lukasz Prokulski) napisa=EE:
  10376.  
  10377. >Kupilem Apollo 040/33MHz, kupilem kosc EDO 16MB - wkladam to w
  10378. >Amige i co? I system widzi tylko 10MB (2+8 :) dostepnej pamieci. =
  10379.  
  10380.  
  10381. Przeciez w instrukcji do karty (po polsku !) jest wyraznie napisane,
  10382. ze do Apollo stosuje sie moduly typu FPM (Fast Page Mode).
  10383. U mnie EDO tez nie chcialo chodzic. Wlozylem FPM-a i jest OK.
  10384.  
  10385. -- =
  10386.  
  10387. *-----------------------------------------------------------*
  10388.       \|/            #Pawel Golebiewski#            \|/      =
  10389.  
  10390.      (=A9_=A9)          #Catv Josat Czluchow#          (=A9_=A9)     =
  10391.  
  10392. -oOO--(O)--OOo-   mail:wembley@kki.net.pl   -oOO--(O)--OOo-
  10393. *-----------------------------------------------------------*
  10394. A1200T/040/25MHz/18MB/1.6GB/1.76MB/CDROM/M1438S/LJIII/33600
  10395.  
  10396. From owner-amigapl  Wed Mar 11 16:43:35 1998
  10397. Received: from www.kki.net.pl (www.kki.net.pl [195.116.9.70]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA26438 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 16:35:16 +0100 (MET)
  10398. Received: from kki.net.pl (ppp76.slupsk.tpnet.pl [194.204.177.76])
  10399.     by www.kki.net.pl (8.8.7/8.8.7.ver6) with SMTP id QAA05660
  10400.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 16:30:49 +0100
  10401. From: Pawel Golebiewski <wembley@kki.net.pl>
  10402. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  10403. Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 14:57:40 +0300
  10404. Message-ID: <yam7374.2007.21364296@kki.net.pl>
  10405. In-Reply-To: <yam7373.2672.2015703208@arka.mtl.pl>
  10406. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  10407. Subject: Re: CDROM...
  10408. MIME-Version: 1.0
  10409. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
  10410. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  10411.  
  10412. Dnia 10-Mar-98, Filip Kopec napisa=EE:
  10413. >Mam pytanko o cdroma...
  10414. >Aztech 268-03I SE ...czy to bedzie dzialac z Amiga i jakiej jest predkos=
  10415. ci?
  10416.  
  10417. Jesli nie jest uszkodzony to na pewno bedzie dzialal.
  10418. Ten model to 2x. Jesli nie jest dla ciebie za wolny to kupuj.
  10419.  
  10420. -- =
  10421.  
  10422. *-----------------------------------------------------------*
  10423.       \|/            #Pawel Golebiewski#            \|/      =
  10424.  
  10425.      (=A9_=A9)          #Catv Josat Czluchow#          (=A9_=A9)     =
  10426.  
  10427. -oOO--(O)--OOo-   mail:wembley@kki.net.pl   -oOO--(O)--OOo-
  10428. *-----------------------------------------------------------*
  10429. A1200T/040/25MHz/18MB/1.6GB/1.76MB/CDROM/M1438S/LJIII/33600
  10430.  
  10431. From owner-amigapl  Wed Mar 11 17:13:24 1998
  10432. Received: from arka.mtl.pl (root@mtl.pl [195.116.4.4]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA26576 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 17:12:42 +0100 (MET)
  10433. Received: from gie-da (rmod13.mtl.pl [195.116.164.15]) by arka.mtl.pl (8.8.7/8.6.12) with ESMTP id RAA27467 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 17:10:43 +0100 (MET)
  10434. Message-Id: <199803111610.RAA27467@arka.mtl.pl>
  10435. From: "Adam Zaparcinski" <gielda@mtl.pl>
  10436. To: "AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi" <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  10437. Subject: DEV: Problem z MUI 
  10438. Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 16:57:56 +0100
  10439. X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
  10440. X-Priority: 3
  10441. X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155
  10442. MIME-Version: 1.0
  10443. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2
  10444. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
  10445.  
  10446. Mam taki problem z MUI. Otó¿ chcia³em napisaæ aplikacjê MUI z u¿yciem custom
  10447. clas tak, jak powinno siê takie rezczy pisaæ. Na pocz±tek spróbowa³em
  10448. skompilowaæ sobie demo class1.c z zestawu dla developerów. i tu niespodzianka.
  10449. Demo w prawdzie skompilowa³o siê pod sasem ale wyrzuci³o dwa warningi:
  10450.  
  10451.         DoSuperMethodA(cl,obj,msg);
  10452. Class1.c 38 Warning 88: argument type incorrect
  10453.                         Expecting "Msg", found "struct MUIP_AskMinMax *"
  10454.         DoSuperMethodA(cl,obj,msg);
  10455. Class1.c 75 Warning 88: argument type incorrect
  10456.                         Expecting "Msg", found "struct MUIP_Draw *"
  10457.  
  10458. Lekko zdziwiony (bo dema nie u¿ywaj±ce custom clas nie wypluwa³y mi warningów)
  10459. uruchomi³em skompilowany program i tu prze¿y³em jeszcze wiêksze zaskoczenie.
  10460. Aplikacja siê powiesi³a tzn nie spowodowa³a zwisu systemu ale wesz³a w
  10461. busy-loop. Odt±d mia³em taska, który spowalnia³ mi system niemi³osiernie. Jak
  10462. sprawdzi³em zwis nastêpuje podczas próby utworzenia obiektu we wszystkich
  10463. przypadkach u¿ywania custom klas. Poci±gn±³em ¶wie¿e inkludy (mui38dev),
  10464. zainstalowa³em sasa jeszcze raz i nic to nie zmieni³o. Czy kto¶ wie co jest
  10465. tego przyczyn±? Czy kto¶ mia³ podobnyy problem?
  10466.  
  10467. Adam 'Sherwood' Zaparciñski
  10468. mailto: gielda@mtl.pl
  10469. From owner-amigapl  Wed Mar 11 17:13:31 1998
  10470. Received: from arka.mtl.pl (root@mtl.pl [195.116.4.4]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA26573 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 17:12:27 +0100 (MET)
  10471. Received: from gie-da (rmod13.mtl.pl [195.116.164.15]) by arka.mtl.pl (8.8.7/8.6.12) with ESMTP id RAA27454 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 17:10:38 +0100 (MET)
  10472. Message-Id: <199803111610.RAA27454@arka.mtl.pl>
  10473. From: "Adam Zaparcinski" <gielda@mtl.pl>
  10474. To: "AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi" <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  10475. Subject: Do Admina
  10476. Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 23:22:18 +0100
  10477. X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
  10478. X-Priority: 3
  10479. X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155
  10480. MIME-Version: 1.0
  10481. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2
  10482. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
  10483.  
  10484. W zasadzie powinienem wys³aæ to na priva Adminowi ale mam cich± nadziejê, ¿e
  10485. coponiektórzy mnie popr±.
  10486.  
  10487. Po raz kolejny proszê (b³agam na kolanach) o za³o¿enie jakiego¶ (cyber)
  10488. mechanicznego filtra na binaria wysy³ane na listê. W³a¶nie dzi¶ ci±gn±³em
  10489. przez pó³ godziny pocztê bo jaki¶ [---] wys³a³ na listê zupe³nie niepotrzebny
  10490. mi plik o niesamowitych (jak na mój modem 14400) rozmiarach. Jak siê zapisa³em
  10491. na listê i przeczyta³em w regulaminie, ¿e wysy³anie binariów jest zakazane to
  10492. mia³em nadziejê, ¿e tak rzeczywi¶cie bêdzie. Mia³em nadziejê, ¿e tu bêdê mia³
  10493. spokój.
  10494.  
  10495. Przepraszam za moje rozgoryczenie ale... ludzie z 14400 na pewno mnie
  10496. zrozumiej±.
  10497.  
  10498. Adam 'Sherwood' Zaparciñski
  10499. From owner-amigapl  Wed Mar 11 17:13:38 1998
  10500. Received: from www.kki.net.pl (www.kki.net.pl [195.116.9.70]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA26445 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 16:38:24 +0100 (MET)
  10501. Received: from kki.net.pl (ppp76.slupsk.tpnet.pl [194.204.177.76])
  10502.     by www.kki.net.pl (8.8.7/8.8.7.ver6) with SMTP id QAA06162
  10503.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 16:34:36 +0100
  10504. From: Pawel Golebiewski <wembley@kki.net.pl>
  10505. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  10506. Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 15:10:08 +0300
  10507. Message-ID: <yam7374.446.21364296@kki.net.pl>
  10508. In-Reply-To: <yam7373.1091.124725464@195.116.50.3>
  10509. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  10510. Subject: Re: ScanDubler
  10511. MIME-Version: 1.0
  10512. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
  10513. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  10514.  
  10515. >>boot menu (nawet fajne, pixele kwadratowe jak na  pc) wgra=B3 sie Workb=
  10516. ench
  10517. >>i tu niespodzianka - szare ramki wok=F3=B3 WB. Pod=B3=B1czam monitor do=
  10518.  gniazda RGB
  10519. >Fakt! U moich trzech koleg=F3w r=F3wnie=BF s=B1 szare ramki.
  10520.  
  10521. A jak to wyglada w trybach Multiscan, DoublePAL, ...
  10522. Tez sa szare ramki ???
  10523.  
  10524. -- =
  10525.  
  10526. *-----------------------------------------------------------*
  10527.       \|/            #Pawel Golebiewski#            \|/      =
  10528.  
  10529.      (=A9_=A9)          #Catv Josat Czluchow#          (=A9_=A9)     =
  10530.  
  10531. -oOO--(O)--OOo-   mail:wembley@kki.net.pl   -oOO--(O)--OOo-
  10532. *-----------------------------------------------------------*
  10533. A1200T/040/25MHz/18MB/1.6GB/1.76MB/CDROM/M1438S/LJIII/33600
  10534.  
  10535. From owner-amigapl  Wed Mar 11 18:43:10 1998
  10536. Received: from friko2.onet.pl (root@friko2.onet.pl [194.204.191.6]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA26733 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 18:41:13 +0100 (MET)
  10537. Received: from friko2.onet.pl (Spidi@pppb13.wroclaw.tpnet.pl [195.116.241.143])
  10538.           by friko2.onet.pl (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP
  10539.       id SAA14832 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 18:34:51 +0100
  10540. From: Artur Gadawski <spidi@friko2.onet.pl>
  10541. Reply-To: spidi@friko2.onet.pl
  10542. To: AmigaPL - List uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  10543. Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 18:37:00 +0100
  10544. Message-ID: <yam7374.1.4450144@friko2.onet.pl>
  10545. X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview3 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
  10546. Subject: HP_DeskJet 400L
  10547. MIME-Version: 1.0
  10548. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  10549. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  10550.  
  10551. Witam.
  10552.  
  10553. Czy kto=B6 z listowicz=F3w mia=B3 mo=BFe do czynienia z wy=BFej wymienion=
  10554. =B1
  10555. drukark=B1. Prosi=B3bym o kontakt na priva.
  10556.  
  10557. Pozdrawiam
  10558. Spidi
  10559. -- =
  10560.  
  10561.  Artur *'Spidi'* Gadawski
  10562.  email: spidi@friko2.onet.pl
  10563.  A1230T/40 600MB 10MB CDx4 BEST 33k6 HP_DJ400
  10564.  
  10565. From owner-amigapl  Wed Mar 11 19:13:23 1998
  10566. Received: from host.pkp.wroc.pl (host.pkp.wroc.pl [156.17.194.29]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA26767 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 18:49:40 +0100 (MET)
  10567. Received: from ppp2.pkp.wroc.pl (Tygrys@ppp2 [156.17.194.22])
  10568.     by host.pkp.wroc.pl (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA15905
  10569.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 18:47:43 +0100 (CET)
  10570. Date: 11 Mar 98 08:52:20 +0100
  10571. From: "Piotr Walaszek" <tygrysek@pkp.wroc.pl>
  10572. Subject: Re: Problem z 32MB rozwi±zany
  10573. To: "AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi" <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  10574. In-Reply-To: <A729CD6953@eskulap.am.lublin.pl>
  10575. Message-ID: <737.374T1015T5321915@pkp.wroc.pl>
  10576. MIME-Version: 1.0
  10577. Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
  10578. Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit
  10579. X-Mailer: THOR 2.5a (Amiga;TCP/IP) *UNREGISTERED*
  10580.  
  10581. Hello Grzegorz M. Pietras, on 10-Mar-98    11:48:29, you said,
  10582.  
  10583. >na SIMM. Jezeli podlaczyles do Blizzka sterownik SCSI i umiesciles na
  10584. >nim  drugiego SIMMa to opcja z ustawianiem 60ns/70ns nie dziala.
  10585. >Dlatego jest to prawdopodobnie "wina" Blizzarda :-)
  10586. >Swoja droga, to bardzo dobra karta....
  10587.  
  10588. Swoja droga - jest to napisane w instrukcji...
  10589. Po podlaczeniu SCSI i drugiego SIMM-a zworke nalezy przelaczyc na 70ns.
  10590.  
  10591.  
  10592.  
  10593.     "`-/")_.-'"``-._      Grrrrrr, :)
  10594.     . . `: -._    )-:-,_       Amiga E/Box 1230/50, 18MB, 2.5Gb + 6.3Gb hdd,
  10595.    (*_,)'  _  )`-.\  ``-'      CD4x4, NEC Multisync3D, ZII i CV64/3d
  10596.   _.- _..-_/ / ((.'       tygrysek@friko.onet.pl        tygrysek@pkp.wroc.pl
  10597. _((,.-'  ((,/             http://friko.onet.pl/wr/tygrysek
  10598.  
  10599. From owner-amigapl  Wed Mar 11 19:43:13 1998
  10600. Received: from ucku4.uck.pk.edu.pl (ucku4.uck.pk.edu.pl [149.156.136.154]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA26865 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 19:31:22 +0100 (MET)
  10601. Received: from localhost (e057@localhost)
  10602.     by ucku4.uck.pk.edu.pl (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id TAA21063
  10603.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 19:28:01 +0100
  10604. Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 19:28:01 +0100 (CET)
  10605. From: Radoslaw Janeczko <e057@ucku4.uck.pk.edu.pl>
  10606. X-Sender: e057@ucku4
  10607. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  10608. Subject: Re: Autoscroll
  10609. In-Reply-To: <yam7373.2002.6322112@kki.net.pl>
  10610. Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.980311192652.20754A-100000@ucku4>
  10611. MIME-Version: 1.0
  10612. Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
  10613.  
  10614. > Byc moze bedziesz musial ustawic preferencje dla screen'ow w
  10615. > Prefs/ScreenModes,
  10616. > w sumie moge dac glowe ;) ze nie ustawiles tam ptaszka AutoSscroll przy
  10617. > danym rodzaju screen'u.
  10618. Niekoniecznie. Wystarczy chyba sam tag Overscan (przynajmniej u mnie
  10619. pomoglo).
  10620.  
  10621. Pozdrowionka.
  10622. +--------------------+---------------------------------------------------+
  10623. | Radoslaw Janeczko  | e-mail: e057@ucku4.uck.pk.edu.pl             ///  |
  10624. |   AXEN of GOTHIC   |    WWW: ucku4.uck.pk.edu.pl/~e057/       \\\///   |
  10625. |assembler programmer|   hard: A1200/10MB/HDD850MB               \///    |
  10626. +--------------------+---------------------------------------------------+
  10627.  
  10628. From owner-amigapl  Wed Mar 11 19:43:21 1998
  10629. Received: from friko2.onet.pl (root@friko2.onet.pl [194.204.191.6]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA26831 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 19:14:33 +0100 (MET)
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  10632.       id TAA18480 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 19:08:36 +0100
  10633. From: Krzysztof =?iso-8859-2?Q?J=F3=BCwiak?= <yoozek@friko2.onet.pl>
  10634. Reply-To: Krzysztof =?iso-8859-2?Q?J=F3=BCwiak?= <yoozek@friko2.onet.pl>
  10635. To: List na =?iso-8859-2?Q?list=EA?= <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  10636. Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 10:03:21 +0100
  10637. Message-ID: <yam7374.1075.1749690736@friko2.onet.pl>
  10638. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  10639. Subject: Czym =?iso-8859-2?Q?odczyta=E6?= *rtf
  10640. MIME-Version: 1.0
  10641. X-ISO-CONVERTED: Yam_ISO2 1.06 (17.11.97) (c) Silver Dream !
  10642. X-YAMISO-UPDATE: ftp://wfmh.org.pl/pub/yam_iso2/
  10643. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  10644. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  10645.  
  10646. Witam
  10647.  
  10648. Jakim programem odczyta=E6 plik z rozszerzeniem #?.rtf ?
  10649. Lub ewentualnie czym przekonwertowa=E6 na ascii ?
  10650.  
  10651. Pozdrowionka
  10652. -- =
  10653.  
  10654. Krzysztof J=F3=BCwiak
  10655. yoozek@friko2.onet.pl
  10656.  
  10657.  
  10658. From owner-amigapl  Wed Mar 11 20:13:14 1998
  10659. Received: from hermes.telbank.pl (vena.telbank.pl [195.136.250.210]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA26974 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 20:04:42 +0100 (MET)
  10660. Received: from bptnet.pl ([195.136.250.24]) by hermes.telbank.pl
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  10662.           ID# 164-43612U3000L100S0) with SMTP id AAA215
  10663.           for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 20:06:17 +0100
  10664. From: "Marek Szymanski" <szymanski@bptnet.pl>
  10665. Reply-To: tagor@wfmh.org.pl
  10666. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  10667. Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 20:02:45 +0100
  10668. Message-ID: <yam7374.2274.1749494536@vena.telbank.pl>
  10669. In-Reply-To: <Pine.HPP.3.95.980311082202.5512C-100000@zeus.polsl.gliwice.pl>
  10670. X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview3 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
  10671. Organization: WFMH
  10672. Subject: Re: Apollo 040
  10673. MIME-Version: 1.0
  10674. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  10675. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  10676.  
  10677. Dn. 11-Mar-98, Aleksander Salwa wklepa=B3:
  10678.  
  10679. > Ktorego programu do kopiowania ROMu do FASTu uzywac
  10680. > z Apollo 1240 ?
  10681.  
  10682. Czy to konkurs Audiotele? ;-)
  10683.  
  10684. Nie mam A1240, ale mo=BFe *CPU FASTROM*? (Sys:c) =
  10685.  
  10686. -- =
  10687.  
  10688. Marek SZYMANSKI  Team *AMIGA*
  10689.     mailto:tagor@wfmh.org.pl=
  10690.  
  10691. From owner-amigapl  Wed Mar 11 21:43:10 1998
  10692. Received: from friko2.onet.pl (root@friko2.onet.pl [194.204.191.6]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA27151 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 21:19:07 +0100 (MET)
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  10695.       id VAA30684 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 21:12:56 +0100
  10696. From: Andrzej "KILLER" Kielar <kielar@friko2.onet.pl>
  10697. Reply-To: kielar@friko2.onet.pl
  10698. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  10699. Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 20:42:24 +0100
  10700. Message-ID: <yam7374.1220.17731264@friko2.onet.pl>
  10701. In-Reply-To: <yam7372.1552.5179160@iarsun1.iar.wat.waw.pl>
  10702. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  10703. Organization: Amiga
  10704. Subject: Re: CrossDos7.0
  10705. MIME-Version: 1.0
  10706. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
  10707. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  10708.  
  10709. Dnia 09-Mar-98, Janusz Golicz wyskroba=EE:
  10710. >Baw sie dobrze.
  10711. >J.G.
  10712.  
  10713. Chcesz m=F3j rachunek za telefon ?
  10714. Jak bym chcia=EE ten program,to bym go sobie zdoby=EE za mniejsze pieni=E2=
  10715. dze.
  10716. -- =
  10717.  
  10718. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
  10719. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
  10720. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
  10721.  
  10722.                                                                          =
  10723.   =
  10724.  
  10725.                           Andrzej 'Killer' Kielar                        =
  10726.      =
  10727.  
  10728.         =
  10729.  
  10730.                         E-MAIL kielar@friko2.onet.pl                     =
  10731.      =
  10732.  
  10733.       =
  10734.  
  10735.                  A1200/040/33MHz/18MB/850MB/C1084S/TORNADO-33600         =
  10736.      =
  10737.  
  10738.            =
  10739.  
  10740.                                                                          =
  10741.  =
  10742.  
  10743. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
  10744. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
  10745. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
  10746.  
  10747.  
  10748. From owner-amigapl  Wed Mar 11 22:13:09 1998
  10749. Received: from onet.pl (root@onet.pl [194.204.188.6]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA27239 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 22:06:29 +0100 (MET)
  10750. Received: from mk (ppp-wct101.katowice.tpnet.pl [194.204.181.101])
  10751.     by onet.pl (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA11824
  10752.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 22:03:24 +0100 (MET)
  10753. From: "Wojciech Kocjan" <kocjan@ka.onet.pl>
  10754. To: "AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi" <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  10755. Subject: Re: Apollo 040
  10756. Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 17:28:12 +0100
  10757. Message-ID: <01bd4d0a$af854380$fdfefe01@mk>
  10758. MIME-Version: 1.0
  10759. Content-Type: text/plain;
  10760.     charset="iso-8859-2"
  10761. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
  10762. X-Priority: 3
  10763. X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
  10764. X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3
  10765. X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3
  10766.  
  10767. You wrote:
  10768.  
  10769. > Pytam raz jeszcze, bo nie wierze, ze nikt nie wie:
  10770. >Ktorego programu do kopiowania ROMu do FASTu uzywac
  10771. >z Apollo 1240 ?
  10772.  
  10773.  
  10774. Ja nie wiem!!!!!! Ale jesli ktos wie to tez bym chcial wiedziec. To na
  10775. prawde ciekawe, ze nikt nie ma o tym pojecia, a w koncu emulator KS1.3 sie u
  10776. mnie odpalil.
  10777.  
  10778. Wojciech Kocjan
  10779. mailto:kocjan@ka.onet.pl        http://priv.onet.pl/ka/wkocjan/
  10780. GSM: +48 601 473237             SMS mailto:48601473237@text.plusgsm.pl
  10781. AUTHOR OF AStartV4, ANETGUI, NEWFMT.LIBRARY and other things
  10782. ---
  10783. "Software suppliers are trying to make their software packages more
  10784. 'user-friendly'.... Their best approach, so far, has been to take
  10785. all the old brochures, and stamp the words, 'user-friendly' on the cover."
  10786. -- Bill Gates, Pres., Microsoft, Inc.
  10787.  
  10788.  
  10789.  
  10790. From owner-amigapl  Wed Mar 11 23:13:14 1998
  10791. Received: from butler.medianet.pl (root@butler.medianet.com.pl [195.116.184.2]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA27421 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 23:01:44 +0100 (MET)
  10792. Received: from mail.union.org.pl (virtual.medianet.pl [195.116.184.254])
  10793.     by butler.medianet.pl (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA12626
  10794.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 23:01:11 +0100 (MET)
  10795. Received: from union.org.pl (dial-30.medianet.pl [195.116.185.30])
  10796.     by mail.union.org.pl (8.8.6/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA29730
  10797.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 23:01:51 GMT
  10798. From: Artur Muszynski <amst@union.org.pl>
  10799. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  10800. Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 20:09:17 +0100
  10801. Message-ID: <yam7374.896.121754416@mail.union.org.pl>
  10802. In-Reply-To: <yam7374.2585.21364296@kki.net.pl>
  10803. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  10804. Organization: Union
  10805. Subject: Re: Karta graficzna - kupie
  10806. MIME-Version: 1.0
  10807. X-ISO-CONVERTED: Yam_ISO2 1.05 (02.11.97) (c) Silver Dream !
  10808. X-YAMISO-UPDATE: ftp://wfmh.man.szczecin.pl/pub/yam_iso2/
  10809. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  10810. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  10811.  
  10812. On 11-Mar-98, Pawel Golebiewski wrote:
  10813. > 1. Chce kupic karte graficzna i nie wiem jaka wybrac.
  10814. > W tej chwili najbardziej popularna jest CyberVision3D.
  10815. > Ale czy nie lepiej poczekac na BVisionPPC do A1200 ?
  10816. > A moze kupic jakas starsza, a pozniej ja sprzedac
  10817. > i kupic jakas pod PPC ???
  10818.  
  10819. Jest pewna szansa =BFe si=EA nied=B3ugo pojawi, tylko nie wiadomo, czy BV=
  10820. ision czy
  10821. CVPPC.
  10822.  
  10823. > 2. Czy z wyjscia CyberVision uzyskam w jakis sposob
  10824. > bez przelaczania monitora obraz PAL z wyjscia RGB Amigi
  10825. > na monitorze M1438S (bez przelacznika monitora) ?
  10826.  
  10827. Je=B6li masz scan dobule made by Phase 5. Mo=BFna zrobi=E6 odpowiedni=B1
  10828. przej=B6ci=F3wk=EA dzia=B3aj=B1cej na identycznej zasadzie co fazowy scan=
  10829.  doubler.
  10830. Zreszt=B1 nie obrazi=B3bym si=EA gdyby faza co=B6 takiego produkowa=B3a.
  10831.  
  10832. > 3. Czy do takiego zestawu bede mogl dolozyc jeszcze
  10833. > ScanDoubler, abym na jednym monitorze mial wszystkie
  10834. > tryby Amigi (PAL->DblPAL, VGA) oraz obraz karty GFX ?
  10835.  
  10836. Tak. Scan doubler fazy jest troch=EA marnej jako=B6ci, ale dzia=B3a.
  10837.  
  10838. > 4. Czy karta GVP Spectrum 2MB dziala pod systemem
  10839. > CyberGraphics ? No i tez w praktyce: czy programy
  10840. > i gry dzialajace pod CyberGFX beda dzialaly na tej karcie ?
  10841.  
  10842. Tak.
  10843.  
  10844. -- =
  10845.  
  10846.  
  10847.    // Artur Muszynski (AMST/UNION) A4000/040/EGS
  10848.  \//  e-mail: amst@union.org.pl
  10849.  
  10850. From owner-amigapl  Wed Mar 11 23:43:10 1998
  10851. Received: from opnt.optimus.wroc.pl (opnt.optimus.wroc.pl [195.117.195.3]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA27505 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 23:39:13 +0100 (MET)
  10852. Received: from pppa174.szczecin.tpnet.pl (unverified [194.204.141.174]) by opnt.optimus.wroc.pl
  10853.  (EMWAC SMTPRS 0.83) with SMTP id <B0000073033@opnt.optimus.wroc.pl>;
  10854.  Wed, 11 Mar 1998 23:36:53 +0100
  10855. Date: 11 Mar 98 22:47:52 +0100
  10856. From: "Marek Jablonski" <mjab2@free.polbox.pl>
  10857. Subject: Re: Re[2]: Cyberstorm 060 do A4000
  10858. To: "AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi" <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  10859. In-Reply-To: <yam7373.2374.139024448@fiber.net.pl>
  10860. Message-ID: <646.374T2624T13674822@polbox.com>
  10861. MIME-Version: 1.0
  10862. Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  10863. Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
  10864. X-Simple-Truth: Swinoujscie rulez!
  10865. X-Mailer: THOR 2.5a (Amiga;TCP/IP)
  10866.  
  10867. On 10-Mar-98 14:07:47 Miloslaw Smyk wrote:
  10868.  
  10869. Niekoniecznie. U mnie dla przyk³adu w WBStartupie koegzystuj± nastêpuj±ce
  10870. twory:
  10871.  
  10872. >AssignWedge                 3412 ----rwed 02-Lip-96    23:13:27
  10873. >ClickToFront                3904 ----rwed 02-Lip-96    23:13:24
  10874. >cgxdpms                     3480 ----rwed 14-Gru-97    14:19:52
  10875.  
  10876. >multicx                    25224 ----rwed 12-Maj-97    17:37:28
  10877.  
  10878. Czy aby _sam_ MultiCX nie zast±pi³by z powodzeniem tej trójki?
  10879.  
  10880. >RTPatch                    24468 ----rwed 02-Lip-96    23:13:27
  10881.  
  10882. Bój siê Boga, Mi³ek! Chyba nie po to patchowa³e¶ asl.library?!
  10883.  
  10884. >StopFlash
  10885.  
  10886. Co to?
  10887.  
  10888.  
  10889.  MJ
  10890. --
  10891.  
  10892. From owner-amigapl  Thu Mar 12 00:13:09 1998
  10893. Received: from hermes.telbank.pl (vena.telbank.pl [195.136.250.210]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA27595 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 00:03:35 +0100 (MET)
  10894. Received: from bptnet.pl ([195.136.250.22]) by hermes.telbank.pl
  10895.           (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2 release (PO205-101c)
  10896.           ID# 164-43612U3000L100S0) with SMTP id AAA166
  10897.           for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 00:04:25 +0100
  10898. From: "Marek Szymanski" <szymanski@bptnet.pl>
  10899. Reply-To: tagor@wfmh.org.pl
  10900. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  10901. Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 00:00:35 +0100
  10902. Message-ID: <yam7375.1794.1746048248@vena.telbank.pl>
  10903. In-Reply-To: <yam7374.1075.1749690736@friko2.onet.pl>
  10904. X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview3 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
  10905. Organization: WFMH
  10906. Subject: Re: Czym =?iso-8859-1?Q?odczyta=E6?= *rtf
  10907. MIME-Version: 1.0
  10908. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  10909. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  10910.  
  10911. Dn. 11-Mar-98 Krzysztof J=F3=BCwiak napisa=B3:
  10912. > Jakim programem odczyta=E6 plik z rozszerzeniem #?.rtf ?
  10913. > Lub ewentualnie czym przekonwertowa=E6 na ascii ?
  10914.  
  10915. Rich Text Format czytany jest przez Final Writera i chyba WordWortha.
  10916. I tam na ASCII te=BF p=F3jdzie.
  10917.  
  10918. -- =
  10919.  
  10920. Serdeczne pozdrowienia-
  10921. M.Szyma=F1ski =
  10922.  
  10923. mailto:tagor@wfmh.org.pl=
  10924.  
  10925. From owner-amigapl  Thu Mar 12 00:13:17 1998
  10926. Received: from friko.onet.pl (friko.onet.pl [194.204.191.9]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA27597 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 00:04:25 +0100 (MET)
  10927. Received: from friko.onet.pl (ppp@ppp25.wloclawek.tpnet.pl [195.116.247.25])
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  10929.       id XAA09964 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 23:50:04 +0100
  10930. From: RHS Linux User <malafifi@friko.onet.pl>
  10931. Reply-To: malafifi@friko.onet.pl
  10932. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  10933. Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 23:55:17 +0100
  10934. Message-ID: <yam7374.894.2016091000@priv.onet.pl>
  10935. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  10936. Organization: SIEDZIBA =?iso-8859-2?Q?DIAB=A3A?=
  10937. Subject: asl.library-rozwiazanie.
  10938. MIME-Version: 1.0
  10939. X-ISO-CONVERTED: Yam_ISO2 1.03 (15.10.97) (c) Silver Dream !
  10940. X-YAMISO-UPDATE: ftp://wfmh.man.szczecin.pl/pub/yam_iso2/
  10941. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  10942. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  10943.  
  10944. Hej.
  10945. Rozwiaza=B3em problem z asl.library.
  10946. Sprawc=B1 by=B3 MCP (prosz=EA si=EA nie =B6mia=E6).
  10947. W=B3a=B6nie wys=B3a=B3em list do autora w tej sprawie.
  10948. Ponadto gdzie legalnie mog=EA znale=BC=E6 AsmOne1.30(pe=B3ne archivum) or=
  10949. az upgrade
  10950. Magellana z 5.61 do 5.65.To pierwsze podobno freeware,drugie chyba te=BF =
  10951. skoro
  10952. zamie=B6cili 5.65 ->5.66 na ktorym=B6 kompakcie ACS-u.Niestety na amineci=
  10953. e nie
  10954. znalaz=B3em.
  10955.  
  10956. -- =
  10957.  
  10958.               ---------------------------------------------------
  10959.               |     RHS Linux User znany jako Andrzej P=EAczak    |
  10960.               | A1k2 z dodatkami E-mial: malafifi@friko.onet.pl |
  10961.               ---------------------------------------------------
  10962.  
  10963. From owner-amigapl  Thu Mar 12 08:13:10 1998
  10964. Received: from www.kki.net.pl (www.kki.net.pl [195.116.9.70]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA00147 for <amigapl@wfmh.fiber.net.pl>; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 07:43:27 +0100 (MET)
  10965. Received: from WspSpolem (rmod12.kielce.mtl.pl [195.117.92.44])
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  10967.     for <amigapl@wfmh.man.szczecin.pl>; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 07:16:38 +0100
  10968. Message-Id: <199803120616.HAA03039@www.kki.net.pl>
  10969. From: "Marcin Soko³owski" <600user@kki.net.pl>
  10970. To: "AmigaPL-WFMH" <amigapl@wfmh.fiber.net.pl>
  10971. Subject: *** Merlin ***
  10972. Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 07:19:53 +0100
  10973. X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
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  10975. X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161
  10976. MIME-Version: 1.0
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  10979.  
  10980. Czesc !!
  10981.  
  10982. Mam okazje kupic karte 24-bit Merlin z 4 MB na pokladzie. Wiem, ze chyba =
  10983. w ktoryms ze starych "Amigowcow" (moze gdzie indziej) byla taka ladna =
  10984. tabelka z opisem wszystkich istniejacych do tamtej pory kart gfx. =
  10985. Niestety, podczas przeprowadzki wcielo mi te gazete, wiec moze ktos z =
  10986. obecnych tutaj mi pomoze - co to takiego ? Ponoc ma ona mozliwosc =
  10987. rozszerzenia pamieci gfx, ale do ilu (?)...
  10988. Czy CGX na niej pojdzie ? Jak ona szybka ? Ma blitter ? Scan doubler ?=20
  10989.  
  10990. Dzienx za info !
  10991. ----------------------
  10992. Marcin "XMS" Soko=B3owski Amiga FAN ForEver
  10993. http://www.complex.com.pl/~zbylu/xms/xms001.html
  10994. 600user@kki.net.pl
  10995. From owner-amigapl  Thu Mar 12 08:13:17 1998
  10996. Received: from piast.pertus.com.pl (root@piast.pertus.com.pl [195.116.191.6]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA00151 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 07:46:41 +0100 (MET)
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  10999.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 07:47:43 +0100
  11000. Message-Id: <199803120647.HAA09582@piast.pertus.com.pl>
  11001. From: "sharky" <sharky@pertus.com.pl>
  11002. To: <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  11003. Subject: ScanDoubler Elbox-u
  11004. Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 07:47:26 +0100
  11005. X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
  11006. X-Priority: 3
  11007. X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1157
  11008. MIME-Version: 1.0
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  11010. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  11011.  
  11012. Hej!
  11013.  
  11014. ScanDoubler Micronica robi be z ramk=B1 wok=F3=B3 WB, a mo=BFe co=B6 =
  11015. kto=B6 wie jak spisuje si=EA o dych=EA dro=BFszy SD Elbox-u?
  11016.  
  11017. Greetings!
  11018.  
  11019.         Arkadiusz Winiarek
  11020.   Jawor (woj. legnickie) Poland
  11021.       Amiga 1200, Apollo 060,
  11022.      32 MB RAM HDD 2,1GB
  11023. From owner-amigapl  Thu Mar 12 08:13:24 1998
  11024. Received: from pc26ap.pomorski.ruch.com.pl (pppa151.szczecin.tpnet.pl [194.204.141.151]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA00158 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 07:50:53 +0100 (MET)
  11025. From: "Andrzej Piasecki" <robin@wfmh.org.pl>
  11026. To: "AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi" <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  11027. Subject: Re: asl.library-rozwiazanie.
  11028. Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 07:46:49 +0100
  11029. Message-ID: <01bd4d82$a20892c0$978dccc2@pc26ap.pomorski.ruch.com.pl>
  11030. MIME-Version: 1.0
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  11034. X-Priority: 3
  11035. X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
  11036. X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3
  11037. X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3
  11038.  
  11039. Od: RHS Linux User <malafifi@friko.onet.pl>
  11040. Do: amigapl@amiga.com.pl <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  11041. Data: 12 marca 1998 00:13
  11042. Temat: asl.library-rozwiazanie.
  11043.  
  11044.  
  11045. >Ponadto gdzie legalnie mog=EA znale=BC=E6 AsmOne1.30(pe=B3ne archivum) =
  11046. oraz upgrade
  11047.  
  11048. Na przyk=B3ad na stronie TFA
  11049.  
  11050. http://www.euronet.nl/users/jdm/homepage.html
  11051. =20
  11052.  
  11053. A dla odmiany pytanie: czy kto=B6 widzia=B3 na oczy StormPowerAsm
  11054.  by Haage&Partner dla PPC ?
  11055.  
  11056. --
  11057. Andrzej Piasecki
  11058. mailto:robin@wfmh.org.pl
  11059.  
  11060.  
  11061. From owner-amigapl  Thu Mar 12 08:43:10 1998
  11062. Received: from student.man.radom.pl (student.man.radom.pl [194.181.239.26]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA00208 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 08:17:31 +0100 (MET)
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  11064.     by student.man.radom.pl (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id IAA00423
  11065.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 08:13:54 +0100
  11066. Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 08:13:52 +0100 (MET)
  11067. From: Kudla Michal <miko@student.man.radom.pl>
  11068. To: amigapl@amiga.com.pl
  11069. Subject: DEV:Dlaczego GCC?
  11070. Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.980312081255.377C-100000@student.man.radom.pl>
  11071. MIME-Version: 1.0
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  11073. Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE
  11074.  
  11075. On 05-Mar-98, Karol Bryd wrote:
  11076.  
  11077. >A tak BTW dlaczego GCC, toz to jest wielka, wolna kolumbryna...
  11078.  
  11079. Interesuje mnie tylko j=EAzyk C++ w pe=B3nej zgodno=B6ci z przewidzianymi
  11080. normami. Nie lubi=EA wywalaj=B1cych si=EA=A0program=F3w. Wolna kolumbryna -=
  11081.  Masz
  11082. racj=EA, doprowadza mnie to do sza=B3u. A tak BTW Amiga INC powinna stworzy=
  11083. =E6
  11084. jaki=B6 interface do j=EAzyka C++, gdy=BF jest to jednak inny j=EAzyk
  11085. programowania. Jest nawet bardziej naturalny ni=BF jakikolwiek inny j=EAzyk=
  11086. =2E
  11087. Ogl=B1dam si=EA troszk=EA=A0za Jav=B1, ale tu te=BF jakby Amiga =B6pi. Kode=
  11088. r=F3w mamy
  11089. wy=B6mienitych ale programist=F3w ...(urazi=B3em sporo os=F3b, Wybaczcie).
  11090. Oczywi=B6cie jest rozwi=B1zanie. Nale=BFy zainstalowa=E6 kaffe i uruchomi=
  11091. =E6
  11092. kompilator stworzony ostatnio przez Suna w czystym j=EAzyku Java. Mnie na t=
  11093. o
  11094. nie sta=E6 - SORRY. Je=B6li si=EA to komu=B6 uda prosz=EA o kontakt.
  11095.  
  11096. //--------------------------------------------------------
  11097. // Micha=B3 Kud=B3a ( AMIGA programmer C++ (systemowiec!) )
  11098.  o   o o o   o   o       A1200/020/14MHz/8Mb/CD
  11099.  o o o   o o   o   o     mailto: miko@kiux.man.radom.pl
  11100.  o   o o o   o o   o         or  miko@student.man.radom.pl
  11101.  o   o o o   o   o       http://student.man.radom.pl/~miko
  11102. //--------------------------------------------------------
  11103.  
  11104. From owner-amigapl  Thu Mar 12 08:43:17 1998
  11105. Received: from student.man.radom.pl (student.man.radom.pl [194.181.239.26]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA00204 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 08:13:38 +0100 (MET)
  11106. Received: from localhost (miko@localhost)
  11107.     by student.man.radom.pl (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id IAA00388
  11108.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 08:10:45 +0100
  11109. Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 08:10:44 +0100 (MET)
  11110. From: Kudla Michal <miko@student.man.radom.pl>
  11111. To: amigapl@amiga.com.pl
  11112. Subject: mUSASHI and AmigaOS
  11113. Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.980312080851.377A-100000@student.man.radom.pl>
  11114. MIME-Version: 1.0
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  11116. Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE
  11117.  
  11118. Wprowadzenie:
  11119. ACS 1/98 s. 25=20
  11120. "mUSASHI:Ot=F3rz...Sama Amiga ma CHORY system operacyjny (w por=F3wnaniu do
  11121. innych)"
  11122.  
  11123. Mo=BFna to traktowa=E6 jako obraza. Ja uwa=BFam, =BFe powinno=B6ci=B1 redak=
  11124. tora
  11125. (Macieja Matyki) by=B3o kontynuowa=E6 ten temat. Lecz jego chyba zatka=B3o.=
  11126.  Mnie
  11127. zatka=B3o. Mo=BFe kto=B6 z czytaj=B1cych zna tego filozofa i spyta si=EA go=
  11128.  o co mu
  11129. chodzi=B3o? Ja bynajmniej chia=B3bym wiedzie=E6 w czym AmigaOS
  11130. (multitasting) odstaje od innych i jakich? Oczywi=B6cie same konkrety.
  11131.  
  11132. - z powa=BFaniem MiKO
  11133.  
  11134. //--------------------------------------------------------
  11135. // Micha=B3 Kud=B3a ( AMIGA programmer C++ (systemowiec!) )
  11136.  o   o o o   o   o       A1200/020/14MHz/8Mb/CD
  11137.  o o o   o o   o   o     mailto: miko@kiux.man.radom.pl
  11138.  o   o o o   o o   o         or  miko@student.man.radom.pl
  11139.  o   o o o   o   o       http://student.man.radom.pl/~miko
  11140. //--------------------------------------------------------
  11141.  
  11142.  
  11143. From owner-amigapl  Thu Mar 12 08:43:23 1998
  11144. Received: from mx1.polbox.com (root@mx1.polbox.com [195.116.5.16]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA00219 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 08:28:29 +0100 (MET)
  11145. Received: from krzysiek (pppa206.szczecin.tpnet.pl [194.204.141.206])
  11146.     by mx1.polbox.com (8.8.8/rev-A0) with SMTP id IAA16931
  11147.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 08:29:37 +0100
  11148. Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 08:29:37 +0100
  11149. Message-Id: <199803120729.IAA16931@mx1.polbox.com>
  11150. From: Krzysiek Jonko <kjonko@polbox.com>
  11151. To: Lista WFMH <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  11152. Subject: PubScreenManager?
  11153. MIME-Version: 1.0
  11154. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
  11155. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
  11156. X-Mailer: Becky! ver 1.23
  11157.  
  11158. Szukam programu, ktory moglby wyswietlic liste WSZYSTKICH otwartych
  11159. PubScreenow oraz liste otwartych okien, flag itp. Jest cos takiego?
  11160. Jesli tak to prosze o namiar. THX
  11161.  
  11162.       /// Krzysiek Jonko
  11163.      ///  A1200T/040/25Mhz 10MB Ram 8xCD, HP ScanJet 4C
  11164.  \\\///   kjonko@polbox.com
  11165.   \XX/    http://free.polbox.pl/k/kjonko/index.htm
  11166.  
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  11170. Szczegoly:  http://www.polbox.pl/98partner.html
  11171.  
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  11173.  
  11174. From owner-amigapl  Thu Mar 12 08:43:30 1998
  11175. Received: from student.man.radom.pl (student.man.radom.pl [194.181.239.26]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA00210 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 08:18:18 +0100 (MET)
  11176. Received: from localhost (miko@localhost)
  11177.     by student.man.radom.pl (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id IAA00416
  11178.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 08:12:52 +0100
  11179. Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 08:12:51 +0100 (MET)
  11180. From: Kudla Michal <miko@student.man.radom.pl>
  11181. To: amigapl@amiga.com.pl
  11182. Subject: Re: StosDEV
  11183. Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.980312081148.377B-100000@student.man.radom.pl>
  11184. MIME-Version: 1.0
  11185. Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
  11186. Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE
  11187.  
  11188. >On Thu, 5 Mar 1998, Micha=B3 Kud=B3a wrote:
  11189.  
  11190. >> Zwracam si=EA o porad=EA (GNU C++).
  11191. >> Konstuuj=B1c klasy u=BFywa=E6 statycznych danych (T&)=20
  11192. >> czy dynamicznych allocowanych newem (T*)?
  11193. >> Je=B6li si=EA dobrze orj=EAtuj=EA to statiki l=B1duj=B1 w stosie,
  11194.  
  11195. >Wybacz, ale to co powy=BFej napisa=B3e=B6 to jest... no nie wiem, jak to n=
  11196. azwa=E6,
  11197. >a nie chc=EA Ci=EA obra=BFa=E6. W ka=BFdym razie trudno mi zrozumie=E6, o =
  11198. co chodzi.
  11199.  
  11200. Przyznaj=EA strasznie pokr=EAcony by=B3 m=F3j li=B6cik. Dzi=EAkuj=EA, =BFe =
  11201. mnie nie
  11202. obrazi=B3e=B6.
  11203.  
  11204. Wyja=B6nie o co mi chodzi=B3o.
  11205. Zkonstuowa=B3em klas=EA - list=EA<wzorzec>. Pobiera=B3a ona jaki=B6 konkret=
  11206. ny typ,
  11207. tworzy=B3a "uchwyt" (Node) inicjowa=B3a nowy obiekt konstruktorem przypisan=
  11208. ia.
  11209. Wszystko to dzia=B3o si=EA w stosie. Klasa nie spe=B3ni=B3a moich oczekiwa=
  11210. =F1 wi=EAc
  11211. stworzy=B3em now=B1, kt=F3ra by=B3a potomkiej starej listy lecz ju=BF nie b=
  11212. y=B3a
  11213. wzorcowa tylko lista wska=BCnik=F3w do objektu klonowalnego, aby lista sama=
  11214. =20
  11215. zarz=B1dza=B3a stworzonymi objectami)
  11216.  
  11217. class Clone{
  11218.  public:
  11219.  Clone() {};
  11220.  virtual Clone *clone(void) =3D 0 ;//{ return new Clone();};
  11221.  virtual ~Clone() {};
  11222. };//Clone
  11223.  
  11224. W takiej li=B6cie mog=B3em przechowywa=E6 dowolne typy byle by pochodzi=B3y=
  11225.  od
  11226. Clone. Lista ta u=BFywa=B3a aloccowania w stosie i w pami=EAci dynamicznej =
  11227. i st=B1d
  11228. wzi=EA=B3o si=EA moje pytanie. Zarzucam ten projekt listy na koszt innej, k=
  11229. t=F3r=B1
  11230. buduj=EA na podstawie clasy Clone z "uchwytem" (Node). Dzi=EAki czemu uzysk=
  11231. am
  11232. jednorazowe allocowanie pami=EAci.=20
  11233. Czy kto=B6 ju=BF napisa=B3 tak=B1 klas=EA?
  11234. A mo=BFe zamieni=E6 j=B1 na vectorek?
  11235. Czy kto=B6 ju=BF podmieni=B3 funkcj=EA new na PooledFunctions?
  11236. Czy kto=B6 daj=EA sobie rad=EA z wyj=B1tkami pod GCC 2.7.0?
  11237. Czy kto=B6 ma GCC v. 2.7.2 (nie 2.7.2.1)?
  11238. Czy kto=B6 ju=BF rozpocz=B1=B3 przygod=EA z Jav=B1 na Amidze?
  11239.  
  11240. //--------------------------------------------------------
  11241. // Micha=B3 Kud=B3a ( AMIGA programmer C++ (systemowiec!) )
  11242.  o   o o o   o   o       A1200/020/14MHz/8Mb/CD
  11243.  o o o   o o   o   o     mailto: miko@kiux.man.radom.pl
  11244.  o   o o o   o o   o         or  miko@student.man.radom.pl
  11245.  o   o o o   o   o       http://student.man.radom.pl/~miko
  11246. //--------------------------------------------------------
  11247.  
  11248. From owner-amigapl  Thu Mar 12 09:13:10 1998
  11249. Received: from piast.pertus.com.pl (root@piast.pertus.com.pl [195.116.191.6]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA00278 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 08:49:25 +0100 (MET)
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  11252.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 08:50:26 +0100
  11253. Message-Id: <199803120750.IAA09856@piast.pertus.com.pl>
  11254. From: "sharky" <sharky@pertus.com.pl>
  11255. To: <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  11256. Subject: TV SAT
  11257. Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 08:50:07 +0100
  11258. X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
  11259. X-Priority: 3
  11260. X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1157
  11261. MIME-Version: 1.0
  11262. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2
  11263. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  11264.  
  11265. Witam Wszystkich ! (sorry za list na blaszce, ale moge pouzywa=E6 tylko =
  11266. w pracy...)
  11267.  
  11268. Jak by nie bylo, to fakt jest taki, ze pytam o sprawe czesciowo zwiazana =
  11269. z piractwem. M=F3j problem jest taki:
  11270. - mam ja sobie Amisie z prockiem 060, dekoder Nagravision System (np. =
  11271. Canal+) i satelite, rzecz jasna, a ze nie wiem do kogo sie zwrocic to =
  11272. pytam czy w tej sytuacji bede mial mozliwosc zastapienia oryginalnego =
  11273. klucza (Canal+ oczywiscie), ktory zostanie mi odebrany pod koniec =
  11274. kwietnia moja Amisia?
  11275. Jezeli jest to mozliwe, to prosze w odpowiedzi o informacje jak, z jakim =
  11276. oprogramowaniem itp..
  11277. Jak wyglada sprawa z dekodowaniem sygnalu innych kanalow?
  11278. Czy Ami moze zastapic rowniez dekoder?
  11279.  
  11280. Hej!
  11281.  
  11282.         Arkadiusz Winiarek
  11283.   Jawor (woj. legnickie) Poland
  11284.       Amiga 1200, Apollo 060,
  11285.      32 MB RAM HDD 2,1GB
  11286. From owner-amigapl  Thu Mar 12 09:13:18 1998
  11287. Received: from linux2.pzuzycie.com.pl (linux2.pzuzycie.com.pl [195.205.22.5]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA00276 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 08:48:33 +0100 (MET)
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  11290.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 08:49:53 +0100
  11291. Message-ID: <35078B6B.92533BA8@linux2.pzuzycie.com.pl>
  11292. Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 08:14:51 +0100
  11293. From: "Jerzy Ma³ecki" <jurgen@linux2.pzuzycie.com.pl>
  11294. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (Win95; I)
  11295. MIME-Version: 1.0
  11296. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  11297. Subject: Re: Ami i TVSat ...
  11298. X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
  11299. References: <199803110919.KAA32226@piast.pertus.com.pl>
  11300. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  11301. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
  11302.  
  11303. sharky wrote:
  11304. >pytam czy w tej sytuacji bede mial mozliwosc zastapienia oryginalnego >klucza (Canal+ oczywiscie), ktory zostanie mi odebrany pod koniec >kwietnia moja Amisia?
  11305.  
  11306. a terminala (jak go nazywaja) ci nie zabiora przypadkiem ?
  11307. istnieja programy + karty podlanczane do pycyy do dekodowania SKY
  11308. na amige tez bylo na poczatku cus takiego ale chyba zaprzestano (czytaj
  11309. nastawiono sie tylko na pycyy)
  11310. o nagravision nie slyszalem
  11311. btw poczytaj alt.satellite.tv.crypt
  11312.  
  11313. -- 
  11314.  
  11315. siemka
  11316.  
  11317. * Ak5/3.1/3mb/80+540scsi/cd 2x/1084/USRS28800
  11318. * jurgen@linux2.pzuzycie.com.pl
  11319. * amiga 4 ever
  11320.  
  11321.  
  11322. From owner-amigapl  Thu Mar 12 09:13:25 1998
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  11328. Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 08:05:22 +0100
  11329. From: "Jerzy Ma³ecki" <jurgen@linux2.pzuzycie.com.pl>
  11330. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (Win95; I)
  11331. MIME-Version: 1.0
  11332. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  11333. Subject: Re: jak wyslac list ?
  11334. X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
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  11338.  
  11339. Karol Bryd wrote:
  11340. > adres grupy, tylko nie probuj tego robic w emailerze (np. YAM).
  11341.  
  11342. tia tylko ze mi chodzilo wlasnie o wysylke yamem a nie programem
  11343. newsowym
  11344. czy jest to wogole mozliwe ?
  11345.  
  11346. -- 
  11347.  
  11348. siemka
  11349.  
  11350. * Ak5/3.1/3mb/80+540scsi/cd 2x/1084/USRS28800
  11351. * jurgen@linux2.pzuzycie.com.pl
  11352. * amiga 4 ever
  11353.  
  11354.  
  11355. From owner-amigapl  Thu Mar 12 09:43:15 1998
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  11365. From: Tomek Kaczanowski <kaczus@kki.net.pl>
  11366. Subject: subscribe
  11367.  
  11368. subscribe amigapl
  11369.  
  11370. From owner-amigapl  Thu Mar 12 10:13:15 1998
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  11379. From: "Wojtek Jaworski" <mxjawors@cyf-kr.edu.pl>
  11380. To: "amigapl-PLEARN" <AMIGA@PLEARN.EDU.PL>,
  11381.         "AmigaPL - WFMH" <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  11382. Subject: Kupie plyte A1200
  11383. Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 09:45:15 +0100
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  11392.  
  11393.  Jak by ktos mial sama plyte do A1200 lub znal namiary, gdzie ja dostac =
  11394. to dajcie znac.=20
  11395. Ewentualnie gola A1200 za niewielkie pieniadze tez wezme :)
  11396. Pozdrawiam=20
  11397. Wojtek
  11398. ------------------------------
  11399. mailto: mxjawors@cyfronet.krakow.pl
  11400.  
  11401.  
  11402. From owner-amigapl  Thu Mar 12 10:43:29 1998
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  11409. From: Admin <owner-amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  11410. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  11411. Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 03:34:43 +0100
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  11414. X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 beta10 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
  11415. Organization: W.F.M.H.   (http://wfmh.org.pl)
  11416. Subject: Re: CrossDos7.0
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  11420.  
  11421. Dnia 11-Mar-98, Andrzej "KILLER" Kielar napisa=B3:
  11422.  
  11423. > Dnia 09-Mar-98, Janusz Golicz wyskroba=B3:
  11424. >> Baw sie dobrze.
  11425. >> J.G.
  11426.  
  11427. E.O.T. !!!
  11428. -- =
  11429.  
  11430.  Admin                           mailto:owner-amigapl@amiga.com.pl
  11431.  
  11432.  
  11433.  
  11434. From owner-amigapl  Thu Mar 12 10:43:45 1998
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  11440. From: "sharky" <sharky@pertus.com.pl>
  11441. To: <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  11442. Subject: Mac
  11443. Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 10:35:20 +0100
  11444. X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
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  11450.  
  11451. Hej!
  11452.  
  11453. Szukam kontakt=F3w z lud=BCmi, kt=F3rzy lubi=B1 sobie pogiecowa=E6 na =
  11454. swoim pseudo Macu (SS, Fusion). Piszcie na priva.
  11455.  
  11456. Greetings!
  11457.  
  11458.         Arkadiusz Winiarek
  11459.   Jawor (woj. legnickie) Poland
  11460.       Amiga 1200, Apollo 060,
  11461.      32 MB RAM HDD 2,1GB
  11462. From owner-amigapl  Thu Mar 12 11:13:42 1998
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  11466.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 10:49:45 +0100
  11467. From: Irek <snowman@free.polbox.pl>
  11468. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  11469. Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 11:23:36 -0500
  11470. Message-ID: <yam7375.1814.3297528@smtp.polbox.com>
  11471. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.3a [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  11472. Subject: Re: Ami i TVSat ...
  11473. MIME-Version: 1.0
  11474. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  11475. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  11476.  
  11477. Dnia 11-Mar-98, sharky napisa=EE:
  11478. >Witam Wszystkich ! (sorry za list na blaszce, ale moge pouzywa=E6 tylko =
  11479. w
  11480. >pracy...)
  11481. Witam!
  11482.  
  11483. >Jak by nie bylo, to fakt jest taki, ze pytam o sprawe czesciowo zwiazana=
  11484.  z
  11485. >piractwem. M=F3j problem jest taki:
  11486. >- mam ja sobie Amisie z prockiem 060, dekoder Nagravision System (np. Ca=
  11487. nal+)
  11488. >i satelite, rzecz jasna, a ze nie wiem do kogo sie zwrocic to pytam czy =
  11489. w tej
  11490. >sytuacji bede mial mozliwosc zastapienia oryginalnego klucza (Canal+
  11491. >oczywiscie), ktory zostanie mi odebrany pod koniec kwietnia moja Amisia?=
  11492.  
  11493. >Jezeli jest to mozliwe, to prosze w odpowiedzi o informacje jak, z jakim=
  11494.  
  11495. >oprogramowaniem itp..
  11496. Jaki=B6 czas temu widzia=B3em co=B6 takiego na piecyka, ale podobno na Am=
  11497. y tez
  11498. jest.. Dzia=B3a to w ten spos=F3b, =BFe zast=EApuje oryginalny klucz t=B1=
  11499.  w=B3a=B6nie
  11500. "podr=F3bk=B1". Podr=F3bk=EA trzeba sobie zrobi=E6 samemu (trawienie p=B3=
  11501. ytki drukowanej
  11502. i umieszczenie na nim jakiego=B6 scalaka), ale jest to do=B6=E6 proste (j=
  11503. ak
  11504. kiedy=B6 robi=B3e=B6 ju=BF jakie=B6 p=B3ytki drukowane to sobie poradzisz=
  11505. =2E..
  11506. Do dzia=B3ania owego urz=B1dzonka wystarcza x386 (tfu!!) a na Amy prawdop=
  11507. odobnie
  11508. nawet A500!. P=B3ytka jest wpinana do portu szeregowego i dzia=B3a jak
  11509. orygnalny klucz. No, to chyba wszystko, a teraz schody:
  11510. - urz=B1dzonko by=B3o zrobione dla program=F3w typu "golasy" (AdultChanel=
  11511. l,
  11512. Eurotica itp.), wi=EAc nie wiem jak by to by=B3o z "pluskw=B1" (Canal+)
  11513. - co jakie=B6 2-3 miesi=B1ce trzeba by=B3o =B6ci=B1ga=E6 nowy "klucz" (pl=
  11514. ik) kt=F3ry dawa=B3
  11515. mo=BFliwo=B6=E6 ogl=B1dania proramu dalej (jak wiadomo kody s=B1 przez st=
  11516. acje zmieniane
  11517. w granicach 1-6 m-cy). Oczywi=B6cie klucz "le=BFy" sobie na jakim=B6 serw=
  11518. erze w
  11519. inecie ;)))
  11520. - z tego co mi wiadomo, kod Nagravision jest jednym z najlepszych system=F3=
  11521. w
  11522. kodowania programu (golasy z Adult'a lec=B1 chyba w Multichoice-musisz mi=
  11523. e=E6
  11524. tylko odpowiedni=B1 kart=EA (na odpowiednie programy, bo dekoder jest jed=
  11525. en))
  11526.  
  11527. >Jak wyglada sprawa z dekodowaniem sygnalu innych kanalow?
  11528. Ha, kod=F3w jest co najmniej kilkana=B6cie (o ile nie wi=EAcej), wi=EAc k=
  11529. a=BFdy z nich
  11530. ma sw=F3j w=B3asny system. Jedne s=B1 prostsze, inne s=B1 bardziej skompl=
  11531. ikowane,
  11532. ale dzisiaj s=B1 ju=BF na tyle zaawansowane, =BFe raczej samemu (od zera)=
  11533.  ci=EA=BFko
  11534. rozwali=E6 takie systemy kodowania...
  11535. Pami=EAtacie jak by=B3 kodowany Teleclub ?? (by=B3a kiedy=B6 taka stacja,=
  11536.  nadawa=B3a
  11537. kup=EA film=F3w). To nawet nie by=B3 kod, sygna=B3 telewizyjny by=B3 "zrz=
  11538. ucony pod
  11539. poziom bieli", co objawia=B3o si=EA tym, =BFe obraz by w negatywie i by=B3=
  11540.  o jakie=B6
  11541. 1/3 ekranu przesuni=EAty w d=F3=B3 (u g=F3ry ta 1/3 ekrany wchodzi=B3a z =
  11542. powrotem).
  11543. Teraz stacje maj=B1 specjalny sprz=EAt, kt=F3ry odwala ca=B3=B1 robot=EA =
  11544. za nich..
  11545. Postawi=B1 jakiego=B6 kompa (nie musi by=E6 nawet szybki, bo pracuje jako=
  11546.  element
  11547. podaj=B1cy tylko odpowiedni kod-klucz do uk=B3ad=F3w zewn=EAtrznych), pod=
  11548. =B3=B1cz=B1 do
  11549. niego kodery zewn=EAtrzne sterowane przez komputerek i heja...
  11550.  
  11551. >Czy Ami moze zastapic rowniez dekoder?
  11552. Raczej nie (chocia=BF g=B3owy nie dam ;). Je=BFeli zaopatrzy=B3by=B6 j=B1=
  11553.  w jakie=B6
  11554. specjalizowane uk=B3ady i przetworniki obrazu (jeden wczytuje, drugi
  11555. =B3amie kod a trzeci wy=B6wietla to dalej np. na kart=EA graficzn=B1) to =
  11556. mo=BFe
  11557. co=B6 by z tego wysz=B3o, ale sprz=EAt dodatkowy wyni=F3s=B3by Cie kup=EA=
  11558.  kasy...
  11559. (jedyny plus to taki, =BFe m=F3g=B3by=B6 pr=F3bowa=E6 =B3ama=E6 inne rodz=
  11560. aje kod=F3w :))
  11561. BTW czyta=B3em kiedy=B6, =BFe jedna ze stacji satelitarnych kodowa=B3a sw=
  11562. =F3j
  11563. program za pomoc=B1 Amigi! Niestety by=B3o to w czasach kiedy kodowanie
  11564. program=F3w nie sta=B3o na takim poziomie jak dzisiaj, wi=EAc i rodzaj ko=
  11565. du
  11566. nie by=B3 zbyt skomplikowany. =
  11567.  
  11568.  
  11569. >Hej!
  11570. No, hej!
  11571.  
  11572. ps. Kiedy=B6 interesowa=B3em si=EA troch=EA tym tematem, ale niestety nie=
  11573.  jestem
  11574. zbyt bieg=B3y w programowaniu, a trzeba by dobrze spi=B1=E6 ze sob=B1 pro=
  11575. gram
  11576. oraz jakie=B6 uk=B3ady elektroniczne starowane Amisi=B1, =BFeby uzyska=E6=
  11577.  zadowalaj=B1cy
  11578. efekt (lub chocia=BF zbli=BFony).
  11579.  
  11580. ps2. MTV koduje np. d=BCwi=EAk w systemie MPG2, wi=EAc teoretycznie nie p=
  11581. otrzeba
  11582. wielkich element=F3w (tylko dekoder MPG2 pracuj=B1cy w realtimie :)))
  11583.  
  11584. -- =
  11585.  
  11586. e-mail: irekm@friko.onet.pl      __
  11587. e-mail: irekm@kki.net.pl        // \   HTTP: on prepare
  11588. *Easy work?   - on Amiga*         \__          A1k2+850MB+4MB+CDx8+28800
  11589. *Best system? - on Amiga*            \
  11590. *BIG TROUBLE? - on PC...*         \_// NOWMAN - Amiga Fan 4ever !
  11591.  
  11592. From owner-amigapl  Thu Mar 12 11:43:18 1998
  11593. Received: from brama.mf.com.pl (brama-gw.mf.com.pl [195.164.9.254]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA00690 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 11:32:35 +0100 (MET)
  11594. Received: from default (ppp50.zgora.tpnet.pl [195.116.244.50])
  11595.     by brama.mf.com.pl (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA26436
  11596.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 11:28:35 +0100
  11597. Message-Id: <199803121028.LAA26436@brama.mf.com.pl>
  11598. From: "tv51" <tv51@mf.com.pl>
  11599. To: "AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi" <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  11600. Subject: Odp: Avi/qt creator
  11601. Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 11:28:51 +0100
  11602. X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
  11603. X-Priority: 3
  11604. X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155
  11605. MIME-Version: 1.0
  11606. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
  11607. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  11608.  
  11609.  
  11610. >     Czy moze ktos mi polecic jakis dobry program na Amige lub Maka,
  11611. > ktory pozwala tworzyc animacje avi/Quicktime i napisac cos o nim?=20
  11612. >=20
  11613. >     PS. Prosze nie polecac mi MainActora.
  11614.  
  11615. Na Maka Adobe Premiere. Demo do zassania z www.adobe.com
  11616. Akceptuje wszystkie chyba formaty plik=F3w graficznych.
  11617. Do tego jest masa plugin=F3w. 
  11618. From owner-amigapl  Thu Mar 12 12:13:17 1998
  11619. Received: from server.fiber.net.pl (server.fiber.net.pl [195.117.208.101]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA00748 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 11:53:58 +0100 (MET)
  11620. Received: from server.fiber.net.pl
  11621.           (pppa240.szczecin.tpnet.pl [194.204.141.240])
  11622.           by server.fiber.net.pl (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with SMTP
  11623.           id AAD23766 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>;
  11624.           Thu, 12 Mar 1998 11:52:27 +0100
  11625. From: Marcin Orlowski <carlos@amiga.com.pl>
  11626. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  11627. Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 10:34:36 +0100
  11628. Message-ID: <yam7375.1815.143364072@server.fiber.net.pl>
  11629. In-Reply-To: <199803120729.IAA16931@mx1.polbox.com>
  11630. X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 beta10 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
  11631. Organization: W.F.M.H.   (http://wfmh.org.pl)
  11632. Subject: Re: PubScreenManager?
  11633. MIME-Version: 1.0
  11634. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  11635. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  11636.  
  11637. Dnia 12-Mar-98, Krzysiek Jonko napisa=B3:
  11638.  
  11639. > Szukam programu, ktory moglby wyswietlic liste WSZYSTKICH otwartych
  11640. > PubScreenow oraz liste otwartych okien, flag itp. Jest cos takiego?
  11641. > Jesli tak to prosze o namiar. THX
  11642.  
  11643. Scout (Aminet)
  11644. Xopa  (Aminet)
  11645. ARTM  (Aminet?)
  11646.  
  11647. i pewnie masa innych.
  11648.  
  11649. -- =
  11650.  
  11651.  My software never has bugs. It just develops random features.
  11652.  
  11653.  Marcin                              http://wfmh.org.pl/~carlos/
  11654.                                        mailto:carlos@wfmh.org.pl
  11655.  
  11656.  
  11657. From owner-amigapl  Thu Mar 12 13:13:12 1998
  11658. Received: from lubusz.zeto-zg.perytnet.pl (root@lubusz.zeto-zg.perytnet.pl [194.196.86.193]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA00963 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 13:09:23 +0100 (MET)
  11659. Received: from lubusz.zeto-zg.perytnet.pl (root@linia11.zeto-zg.perytnet.pl [194.196.86.205])
  11660.     by lubusz.zeto-zg.perytnet.pl (8.8.6/8.8.6/Debian/GNU) with SMTP id NAA29122
  11661.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 13:06:50 +0100
  11662. From: Marcin Mistun <dekorav@lubusz.zeto-zg.perytnet.pl>
  11663. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  11664. Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 12:53:21 +0100
  11665. Message-ID: <yam7375.1067.137652904@lubusz.zeto-zg.perytnet.pl>
  11666. In-Reply-To: <199803120616.HAA03039@www.kki.net.pl>
  11667. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  11668. Organization: M G System
  11669. Subject: Re: *** Merlin ***
  11670. MIME-Version: 1.0
  11671. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
  11672. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  11673.  
  11674. On 12-Mar-98, Marcin Soko=B3owski wrote:
  11675. >Czesc !!
  11676.  
  11677. >Mam okazje kupic karte 24-bit Merlin z 4 MB na pokladzie. Wiem, ze chyba=
  11678.  w
  11679. >ktoryms ze starych "Amigowcow" (moze gdzie indziej) byla taka ladna tabe=
  11680. lka z
  11681. >opisem wszystkich istniejacych do tamtej pory kart gfx. Niestety, podcza=
  11682. s
  11683. >przeprowadzki wcielo mi te gazete, wiec moze ktos z obecnych tutaj mi po=
  11684. moze
  11685. -
  11686. >co to takiego ? Ponoc ma ona mozliwosc rozszerzenia pamieci gfx, ale do =
  11687. ilu
  11688. >(?)...
  11689. >Czy CGX na niej pojdzie ? Jak ona szybka ? Ma blitter ? Scan doubler ? =
  11690.  
  11691.  
  11692. >Dzienx za info !
  11693. >----------------------
  11694. >Marcin "XMS" Soko=B3owski Amiga FAN ForEver
  11695. >http://www.complex.com.pl/~zbylu/xms/xms001.html
  11696. >600user@kki.net.pl
  11697.  
  11698. >- WFMH AmigaPL ---------------------------------------------------------=
  11699. -----
  11700. >                      Ogloszenia kupno/sprzedaz  http://amiga.com.pl/gie=
  11701. lda/
  11702.  
  11703. -- =
  11704.  
  11705.              Marcin "Magazynio" Mistun
  11706.          mailto:dekorav@lubusz.zeto-zg.perytnet.pl
  11707. Happy User of A3000/040-106MB Ram/CV64-3D/Toccata/MFC III FastlineZIII
  11708.  
  11709. From owner-amigapl  Thu Mar 12 13:13:26 1998
  11710. Received: from friko.onet.pl (friko.onet.pl [194.204.191.9]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA00909 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 12:47:55 +0100 (MET)
  11711. Received: from priv.onet.pl (ppp@pppa123.poznan.tpnet.pl [194.204.178.123])
  11712.           by friko.onet.pl (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP
  11713.       id MAA16475 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 12:33:04 +0100
  11714. From: Robert Nowak <robert_n@friko.onet.pl>
  11715. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  11716. Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 12:42:18 -0500
  11717. Message-ID: <yam7375.927.2015072896@friko.onet.pl>
  11718. In-Reply-To: <yam7374.166.139241936@fiber.net.pl>
  11719. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  11720. Subject: Re: Flop pc -> flop do A600
  11721. MIME-Version: 1.0
  11722. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  11723. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  11724.  
  11725. Dnia 11-Mar-98, Miloslaw Smyk napisa=EE:
  11726. >Cze=B6=E6.
  11727.  
  11728. >Kumpel zada=B3 mi nast=EApuj=B1ce pytanie:
  11729.  
  11730. >"czy wiesz jak przerobic flopa pc na flopa do amigi 600?"
  11731.  
  11732. >Ja niestety nie mam poj=EAcia, ale mo=BFe na li=B6cie jest kto=B6 kto wi=
  11733. e?
  11734.  
  11735. Hej.
  11736.  
  11737. Je=B6li ta stacja ma diskchange to nie ma problemu - pod=B3=B1cza si=EA j=
  11738. =B1
  11739. tak samo jak zwyk=B3=B1 stacj=EA.
  11740.  
  11741. Je=B6li nie ma to musisz troch=EA przerobi=E6 tasiemk=EA sygna=B3ow=B1:
  11742.  
  11743.  
  11744. Stacja                           Amiga
  11745.  
  11746. 2 - od=B3=B1czy=E6                     =
  11747.  
  11748.               =
  11749.  
  11750. 10 ----------------------------  12
  11751.               =
  11752.  
  11753. 12 ----------------------------  10
  11754.               =
  11755.  
  11756. 16 ----------------------------  16
  11757.                      |                      =
  11758.  
  11759.                       ---------  34
  11760.  
  11761. 34 ----------------------------  2
  11762.  
  11763. Pozosta=B3e po=B3=B1czenia bez zmian.
  11764.  
  11765. Powinno dzia=B3a=E6 (osobi=B6cie jeszcze tego nie sprawdza=B3em,
  11766. ale ten schemat dosta=B3em od bardzo mi=B3ego pana z serwisu AGA
  11767. w Pile i widzia=B3em dzia=B3aj=B1cy egzemplarz (A 500 z stacj=B1 PC) ;-).=
  11768.  
  11769.  
  11770. Jak to wykonasz to napisz mi jak dzia=B3a !
  11771.  
  11772. Mog=B1 by=E6 tylko k=B3opoty z dyskietkami HD - trzeba b=EAdzie pozakleja=
  11773. =E6
  11774. drug=B1 dziurk=EA ;-).
  11775.  
  11776. PS. =A3atwiej by=B3oby mi narysowa=E6 ten schemat, ale jak wiadomo nie wo=
  11777. lno
  11778. przysy=B3a=E6 binari=F3w :).
  11779.  
  11780. Powodzenia.
  11781.  
  11782.  ----------------
  11783.    Robert Nowak
  11784.  
  11785.  E-Mail:  robert_n@priv.onet.pl
  11786.  
  11787.  WWW:     http://friko.onet.pl/pi/amiga_pl
  11788.  Pierwsza polska strona z NEWS'ami o Amidze !!!!!
  11789.  
  11790.    A-1200T/1.7GB/1230IV50/32MB Fast RAM.
  11791.  
  11792.  "Amiga is indestructible - Amiga is alive!"
  11793.  
  11794. From owner-amigapl  Thu Mar 12 13:43:11 1998
  11795. Received: from gryzmak.lodz.pdi.net (gryzmak.lodz.pdi.net [195.116.162.1]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA00999 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 13:16:32 +0100 (MET)
  11796. Received: (from arturp@localhost)
  11797.     by gryzmak.lodz.pdi.net (8.8.7/2.1.1/L) id NAA17409;
  11798.     Thu, 12 Mar 1998 13:13:55 +0100
  11799. Message-ID: <19980312131353.61749@plukwa.pdi.net>
  11800. Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 13:13:54 +0100
  11801. From: Artur Pietruk <arturp@plukwa.pdi.net>
  11802. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  11803. Subject: Re: *** Merlin ***
  11804. References: <199803120616.HAA03039@www.kki.net.pl>
  11805. Mime-Version: 1.0
  11806. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
  11807. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
  11808. X-Mailer: Mutt 0.83
  11809. In-Reply-To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=3C199803120616=2EHAA03039=40www=2Ekki=2Enet=2Epl=3E=3B_f?=
  11810.  =?iso-8859-1?Q?rom_Marcin_Soko=B3owski_on_Thu=2C_Mar_12=2C_1998_at_07=3A?=
  11811.  =?iso-8859-1?Q?19=3A53AM_+0100?=
  11812.  
  11813. On Thu, Mar 12, 1998 at 07:19:53AM +0100, Marcin Soko³owski wrote:
  11814. > Czesc !!
  11815. > 
  11816. > Mam okazje kupic karte 24-bit Merlin z 4 MB na pokladzie. Wiem, ze chyba w ktoryms ze starych "Amigowcow" (moze gdzie indziej) byla taka ladna tabelka z opisem wszystkich istniejacych do tamtej pory kart gfx. Niestety, podczas przeprowadzki wcielo mi te
  11817.  
  11818.     Nie mam przy sobie odpowiednich artykulow z gazet, ale ja osbiscie
  11819. szczerze odradzam kupno tej karty. O ile sie nie myle, jest bardzo stara,
  11820. powstala gdzies ok. lat 90-91-92, kiedy nie bylo jeszcze A1200. Karta ta,
  11821. znw jesli dobrze pamietam, nie jest supportowana przez cgx V3, moze V2?
  11822. Proponuje zajrzec pod http://www.vgr.com i sprawdzic.
  11823.  
  11824.     Pozdrawia:
  11825.  
  11826. -- 
  11827. -------------------------------------------------------------------
  11828. - Who  : Artur Pietruk - WebMaster @ PDi - www.pdi.net -      /// -
  11829. - Email: arturp@pdi.net IRC: APair TEL: +48 44 7140906 -     ///  -
  11830. - Snail: ul.11 listopada 33a/19 97-140 Koluszki POLAND - \\\///   -
  11831. - Using: AMIGA 4000/40 CV64-3D, A1240T                 -  \\//    -
  11832.  
  11833.         PGP public key - finger arturp@gryzmak.lodz.pdi.net
  11834.                 "My webpage exist - I've seen it!"
  11835. From owner-amigapl  Thu Mar 12 13:43:21 1998
  11836. Received: from mops.uci.agh.edu.pl (mops.uci.agh.edu.pl [149.156.98.196]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA00972 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 13:12:30 +0100 (MET)
  11837. Received: from localhost (lemi@localhost)
  11838.     by mops.uci.agh.edu.pl (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA03854
  11839.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 12:09:27 GMT
  11840. Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 13:09:27 +0100 (MET)
  11841. From: "LeMUr of blabla (Lukasz Prokulski)" <lemi@mops.uci.agh.edu.pl>
  11842. Sender: lemi@mops.uci.agh.edu.pl
  11843. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  11844. Subject: Re: Apollo i 16MB SIMM
  11845. In-Reply-To: <yam7374.517.21364296@kki.net.pl>
  11846. Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.980312130753.3344B-100000@mops>
  11847. MIME-Version: 1.0
  11848. Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
  11849. Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE
  11850.  
  11851. On Wed, 11 Mar 1998, Pawel Golebiewski wrote:
  11852. > Dnia 10-Mar-98, LeMUr of blabla (Lukasz Prokulski) napisa=EE:
  11853. > >Kupilem Apollo 040/33MHz, kupilem kosc EDO 16MB - wkladam to w
  11854. > >Amige i co? I system widzi tylko 10MB (2+8 :) dostepnej pamieci.=20
  11855. > Przeciez w instrukcji do karty (po polsku !) jest wyraznie napisane,
  11856. > ze do Apollo stosuje sie moduly typu FPM (Fast Page Mode).
  11857. > U mnie EDO tez nie chcialo chodzic. Wlozylem FPM-a i jest OK.
  11858.  
  11859. =09W instrukcji (rev 1.5 gwoli scislosci) pisze ze moze to byc FPM
  11860. _lub_ EDO... Wiec jak to jest? Zreszta - gdyby EDO nie moglo byc, to
  11861. najprawdopodobniej (tak sadze) pamiec w ogole by nie byla widziana, a nie
  11862. tak jak jest - jej polowa.
  11863.  
  11864.  
  11865. =09Jakies pomysly?
  11866.  
  11867.  /************************************************************************
  11868.  *    LeMUr of blabla              AMiGA 1k2 user, C-programmer, boss of *
  11869.  * ./___ _    _____. ./___ _    _____.  IZViestia magazine, text-writter *
  11870.  * |____\/____\____| |____\/____\____|  E-MAIL: lemi@mops.uci.agh.edu.pl *
  11871.  * blabla - this means system friendly    HTTP:  www.gliwice.pl/~thufor/ *
  11872.  *********** AmiNET:util/cli/2b_Srch11DEMO.lha - get it now! ************/
  11873.  
  11874. From owner-amigapl  Thu Mar 12 13:43:29 1998
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  11878. Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 13:36:52 +0100 (MET)
  11879. From: Jaroslaw Bulat <kwant@student.uci.agh.edu.pl>
  11880. X-Sender: kwant@student
  11881. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  11882. Subject: Re: PubScreenManager?
  11883. In-Reply-To: <199803120729.IAA16931@mx1.polbox.com>
  11884. Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.95.980312133609.588A-100000@student>
  11885. MIME-Version: 1.0
  11886. Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
  11887.  
  11888.  
  11889.  
  11890. On Thu, 12 Mar 1998, Krzysiek Jonko wrote:
  11891.  
  11892. > Szukam programu, ktory moglby wyswietlic liste WSZYSTKICH otwartych
  11893. > PubScreenow oraz liste otwartych okien, flag itp. Jest cos takiego?
  11894. > Jesli tak to prosze o namiar. THX
  11895. > 
  11896. Scout, lub Xopper (oba na Aminecie).
  11897.  
  11898.  
  11899. Kwant.
  11900.  
  11901. From owner-amigapl  Thu Mar 12 13:43:46 1998
  11902. Received: from gryzmak.lodz.pdi.net (gryzmak.lodz.pdi.net [195.116.162.1]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA01015 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 13:20:33 +0100 (MET)
  11903. Received: (from arturp@localhost)
  11904.     by gryzmak.lodz.pdi.net (8.8.7/2.1.1/L) id NAA17723;
  11905.     Thu, 12 Mar 1998 13:17:57 +0100
  11906. Message-ID: <19980312131756.32342@plukwa.pdi.net>
  11907. Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 13:17:56 +0100
  11908. From: Artur Pietruk <arturp@plukwa.pdi.net>
  11909. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  11910. Subject: Re: PubScreenManager?
  11911. References: <199803120729.IAA16931@mx1.polbox.com>
  11912. Mime-Version: 1.0
  11913. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
  11914. X-Mailer: Mutt 0.83
  11915. In-Reply-To: <199803120729.IAA16931@mx1.polbox.com>; from Krzysiek Jonko on Thu, Mar 12, 1998 at 08:29:37AM +0100
  11916.  
  11917. On Thu, Mar 12, 1998 at 08:29:37AM +0100, Krzysiek Jonko wrote:
  11918. > Szukam programu, ktory moglby wyswietlic liste WSZYSTKICH otwartych
  11919. > PubScreenow oraz liste otwartych okien, flag itp. Jest cos takiego?
  11920. > Jesli tak to prosze o namiar. THX
  11921.  
  11922.     ARTM i jeden nowy, bardzo ladny programik freeware robiacy to samo
  11923. - niestety uzywam go od niedawna i niezdazylem zapamietac nazwy :-)
  11924.  
  11925.     Pozdrawia:
  11926.  
  11927. -- 
  11928. -------------------------------------------------------------------
  11929. - Who  : Artur Pietruk - WebMaster @ PDi - www.pdi.net -      /// -
  11930. - Email: arturp@pdi.net IRC: APair TEL: +48 44 7140906 -     ///  -
  11931. - Snail: ul.11 listopada 33a/19 97-140 Koluszki POLAND - \\\///   -
  11932. - Using: AMIGA 4000/40 CV64-3D, A1240T                 -  \\//    -
  11933.  
  11934.         PGP public key - finger arturp@gryzmak.lodz.pdi.net
  11935.                 "My webpage exist - I've seen it!"
  11936. From owner-amigapl  Thu Mar 12 13:43:54 1998
  11937. Received: from mops.uci.agh.edu.pl (lemi@mops.uci.agh.edu.pl [149.156.98.196]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA01008 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 13:19:18 +0100 (MET)
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  11940.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 12:16:23 GMT
  11941. Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 13:16:23 +0100 (MET)
  11942. From: "LeMUr of blabla (Lukasz Prokulski)" <lemi@mops.uci.agh.edu.pl>
  11943. Sender: lemi@mops.uci.agh.edu.pl
  11944. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  11945. Subject: Re: Apollo 040
  11946. In-Reply-To: <yam7374.2274.1749494536@vena.telbank.pl>
  11947. Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.980312131512.3344C-100000@mops>
  11948. MIME-Version: 1.0
  11949. Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
  11950. Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE
  11951.  
  11952. On Wed, 11 Mar 1998, Marek Szymanski wrote:
  11953. > Dn. 11-Mar-98, Aleksander Salwa wklepa=B3:
  11954. > > Ktorego programu do kopiowania ROMu do FASTu uzywac
  11955. > > z Apollo 1240 ?
  11956. > Czy to konkurs Audiotele? ;-)
  11957.  
  11958. =09Raczej nie, bo jak widac (?) trzy osoby maja z tym problem :)
  11959.  
  11960. > Nie mam A1240, ale mo=BFe *CPU FASTROM*? (Sys:c)=20
  11961.  
  11962. =09...problem taki, ze to nie dziala o czym pisze nawet w instrukcji
  11963. do Apollo. Polecaja tam FastROM z AmiNETu, ktorego prawde mowiac jeszcze
  11964. nie szukalem ;)
  11965.  
  11966.  /************************************************************************
  11967.  *    LeMUr of blabla              AMiGA 1k2 user, C-programmer, boss of *
  11968.  * ./___ _    _____. ./___ _    _____.  IZViestia magazine, text-writter *
  11969.  * |____\/____\____| |____\/____\____|  E-MAIL: lemi@mops.uci.agh.edu.pl *
  11970.  * blabla - this means system friendly    HTTP:  www.gliwice.pl/~thufor/ *
  11971.  *********** AmiNET:util/cli/2b_Srch11DEMO.lha - get it now! ************/
  11972.  
  11973. From owner-amigapl  Thu Mar 12 14:13:11 1998
  11974. Received: from ernie.icslab.agh.edu.pl (kiskra@ernie.icslab.agh.edu.pl [149.156.98.14]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA01118 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 13:49:21 +0100 (MET)
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  11977. Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 13:46:42 +0100 (MET)
  11978. From: Kamil Iskra <kiskra@ernie.icslab.agh.edu.pl>
  11979. X-Sender: kiskra@ernie
  11980. Reply-To: Kamil Iskra <iskra@student.uci.agh.edu.pl>
  11981. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  11982. Subject: Re: MountDos + CrossDos 7.0 ? fat 32
  11983. In-Reply-To: <19980311135252.50520@plukwa.pdi.net>
  11984. Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.95.980312134542.24800A-100000@ernie>
  11985. MIME-Version: 1.0
  11986. Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
  11987.  
  11988. On Wed, 11 Mar 1998, Artur Pietruk wrote:
  11989.  
  11990. > > Pisze jeszcze raz na liste w zwiazku z tematem rzeka. Chodzi mi o 
  11991. > > "zobaczenie" dysku blaszakowego z Fatem 32. Na liscie przewinelo sie 
  11992. >     Nie mozna. To wynalazek zastosowany w Win95 OSR2. Dla pocieszenia
  11993. > dodam, ze na Pececie ten format jest rozpoznawany wylacznie przez Win95
  11994. > OSR2, tak wiec jak ktos przyjdzie z takim dyskiem do kolegi ktory nie ma
  11995. > osr2, to sobie nic z dysku nie odczyta :-)
  11996.  
  11997. Format ten mozna odczytac pod Linuxem z zainstalowana specjalna lata na
  11998. jadrze. Ponoc jadro 2.0.34 ma miec te late standardowo.
  11999.  
  12000. / Kamil Iskra    AmigaOS  Linux/i386  Linux/m68k               \
  12001. | GeekGadgets GCC maintainer   UNIX system administrator       |
  12002. | iskra@student.uci.agh.edu.pl  kiskra@ernie.icslab.agh.edu.pl |
  12003. \ kamil@dwd.interkom.pl   http://student.uci.agh.edu.pl/~iskra /
  12004.  
  12005. From owner-amigapl  Thu Mar 12 14:13:24 1998
  12006. Received: from ernie.icslab.agh.edu.pl (kiskra@ernie.icslab.agh.edu.pl [149.156.98.14]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA01131 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 13:56:25 +0100 (MET)
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  12009. Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 13:53:49 +0100 (MET)
  12010. From: Kamil Iskra <kiskra@ernie.icslab.agh.edu.pl>
  12011. X-Sender: kiskra@ernie
  12012. Reply-To: Kamil Iskra <iskra@student.uci.agh.edu.pl>
  12013. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  12014. Subject: Re: StosDEV
  12015. In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.3.95.980312081148.377B-100000@student.man.radom.pl>
  12016. Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.95.980312134802.24800B-100000@ernie>
  12017. MIME-Version: 1.0
  12018. Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-2
  12019. Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE
  12020.  
  12021. On Thu, 12 Mar 1998, Kudla Michal wrote:
  12022.  
  12023. > class Clone{
  12024. >  public:
  12025. >  Clone() {};
  12026. >  virtual Clone *clone(void) =3D 0 ;//{ return new Clone();};
  12027. >  virtual ~Clone() {};
  12028. > };//Clone
  12029. >=20
  12030. > W takiej li=B6cie mog=B3em przechowywa=E6 dowolne typy byle by pochodzi=
  12031. =B3y od
  12032. > Clone.
  12033.  
  12034. Zrobiles to wiec podobnie, jak w Javie, w ktorej kazdy obiekt pochodzi od
  12035. java.lang.Object i w ten sposob unika sie wzorcow.
  12036.  
  12037. > Lista ta u=BFywa=B3a aloccowania w stosie i w pami=EAci dynamicznej
  12038.  
  12039. Nie bardzo wiem, na czym moglo polegac to przydzielanie na stosie. Tak
  12040. wlasciwie to w typowych przypadkach ono nic nie kosztuje - ot, jedna
  12041. instrukcja na poczatku funkcji i jest ono przeprowadzane dla wiekszosci
  12042. funkcji, ktore maja zmienne na stosie.
  12043.  
  12044. > Czy kto=B6 ju=BF podmieni=B3 funkcj=EA new na PooledFunctions?
  12045.  
  12046. Nie wiem, czy jest sens. Przypuszczam, ze new uzywa malloc, a ta ostatnia
  12047. jest poolowana, byc moze nie przy uzyciu funkcji systemowych, ale zawsze.
  12048.  
  12049. > Czy kto=B6 daj=EA sobie rad=EA z wyj=B1tkami pod GCC 2.7.0?
  12050.  
  12051. Nie warto. Sa okropnie skopane. Te w 2.7.2.x tez zreszta nie sa wiele
  12052. lepsze. Poczekaj na EGCS.
  12053.  
  12054. > Czy kto=B6 ma GCC v. 2.7.2 (nie 2.7.2.1)?
  12055.  
  12056. A po co Ci? 2.7.2.1 rozni sie tylko minimalnie od 2.7.2, w przypadku C++
  12057. nie powinien sie roznic wcale.
  12058.  
  12059. / Kamil Iskra    AmigaOS  Linux/i386  Linux/m68k               \
  12060. | GeekGadgets GCC maintainer   UNIX system administrator       |
  12061. | iskra@student.uci.agh.edu.pl  kiskra@ernie.icslab.agh.edu.pl |
  12062. \ kamil@dwd.interkom.pl   http://student.uci.agh.edu.pl/~iskra /
  12063.  
  12064. From owner-amigapl  Thu Mar 12 14:43:11 1998
  12065. Received: from hermes.telbank.pl (vena.telbank.PL [195.136.250.210]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA01180 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 14:15:20 +0100 (MET)
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  12068.           ID# 164-43612U3000L100S0) with SMTP id AAC169
  12069.           for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 14:16:02 +0100
  12070. From: "Marek Szymanski" <szymanski@bptnet.pl>
  12071. Reply-To: tagor@wfmh.org.pl
  12072. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  12073. Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 20:15:57 +0100
  12074. Message-ID: <yam7374.2879.1745663944@vena.telbank.pl>
  12075. In-Reply-To: <yam7374.2195.21364296@kki.net.pl>
  12076. X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview3 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
  12077. Organization: WFMH
  12078. Subject: Re[2]: CrossDos7.0
  12079. MIME-Version: 1.0
  12080. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  12081. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  12082.  
  12083. Dn. 11-Mar-98, Pawel Golebiewski wklepa=B3:
  12084. > Dnia 09-Mar-98, Janusz Golicz napisa=B3:
  12085. >> Baw sie dobrze.
  12086. [...]
  12087. > w 1200 dpi i podziekowac mu osobiscie ?
  12088. > A moze wszyscy bysmy tak zrobili ???
  12089.  
  12090. Pos=B3a=B3em koledze ten sam plik w trzech kopiach (wiecie, b=B3=EAdy tra=
  12091. nsmisji ;-).
  12092. Mam nadziej=EA, =BFe bawi si=EA dobrze.
  12093.  
  12094. -- =
  12095.  
  12096. Marek SZYMANSKI  Team *AMIGA*
  12097.     mailto:tagor@wfmh.org.pl=
  12098.  
  12099. From owner-amigapl  Thu Mar 12 16:43:12 1998
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  12103.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 16:34:05 +0100 (MET)
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  12106.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 16:35:02 GMT
  12107. From: Artur Muszynski <amst@union.org.pl>
  12108. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  12109. Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 15:33:26 +0100
  12110. Message-ID: <yam7375.1304.123588816@mail.union.org.pl>
  12111. In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.3.95.980312081255.377C-100000@student.man.radom.pl>
  12112. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  12113. Organization: Union
  12114. Subject: Re: DEV:Dlaczego GCC?
  12115. MIME-Version: 1.0
  12116. X-ISO-CONVERTED: Yam_ISO2 1.05 (02.11.97) (c) Silver Dream !
  12117. X-YAMISO-UPDATE: ftp://wfmh.man.szczecin.pl/pub/yam_iso2/
  12118. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  12119. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  12120.  
  12121. On 12-Mar-98, Kudla Michal wrote:
  12122. > Interesuje mnie tylko j=E6zyk C++ w pe=B3nej zgodno=B6ci z przewidziany=
  12123. mi
  12124. > normami. Nie lubi=E6 wywalaj=B1cych si=E6=A0program=F3w.
  12125.                 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
  12126. W tym akurat gcc ci nie pomo=BFe :-)
  12127.  
  12128. > racj=E6, doprowadza mnie to do sza=B3u. A tak BTW Amiga INC powinna stw=
  12129. orzy=E6
  12130. > jaki=B6 interface do j=E6zyka C++, gdy=BF jest to jednak inny j=E6zyk
  12131.  
  12132. Jest na Aminecie co=B6 takiego. Nie s=B3ysza=B3em jednak, aby kto=B6 tego=
  12133.  
  12134. pr=F3bowa=B3=A0u=BFywa=E6.
  12135.  
  12136. > programowania. Jest nawet bardziej naturalny ni=BF jakikolwiek inny j=E6=
  12137. zyk.
  12138. > Ogl=B1dam si=E6 troszk=E6=A0za Jav=B1, ale tu te=BF jakby Amiga =B6pi. =
  12139. Koder=F3w mamy
  12140. > wy=B6mienitych ale programist=F3w ...(urazi=B3em sporo os=F3b, Wybaczci=
  12141. e).
  12142.  
  12143. Uwa=BFam, =BFe bredzisz, zar=F3wno w jednym jak i drugim. Rozumiem twoj=B1=
  12144.  
  12145. fascynacj=EA C++ i Jav=B1. Je=B6li jednak dobrze =B6ledzi=B3em histori=EA=
  12146.  j=EAzyk=F3w
  12147. programowania, to najbardziej naturalnym j=EAzykiem jest BASIC. C++ nie j=
  12148. est
  12149. natomiast ani naturalny, ani nawet =B3atwy. Aczkolwiek C++ ma niew=B1tpli=
  12150. wie
  12151. wiele zalet, jak przede wszystkim wymuszanie OOP, cz=EAsto s=B3yszy si=EA=
  12152.  zupe=B3nie
  12153. odmienne opinie.
  12154.  
  12155. Gdyby=B6 si=EA troch=EA zainteresowa=B3, to wiedzia=B3by=B6, =BFe jest sp=
  12156. oro os=F3b
  12157. znaj=B1cych si=EA DOSKONALE na programowaniu, kt=F3rzy potrafi=B1 znaczni=
  12158. e wi=EAcej,
  12159. ni=BF napisanie prostackiej "aplikacji" w Clipperze, czy Delphi (kilka z =
  12160. nich
  12161. jest zreszt=B1 na tej li=B6cie). Owszem, wielu =B6wietnych programist=F3w=
  12162.  odesz=B3o od
  12163. Amigi, chocia=BF tyczy si=EA to raczej zachodu, a nie Polski (w Polsce pr=
  12164. odukcja
  12165. oprogramowania nadal jest na etapie raczkowania, chocia=BF na szcz=EA=B6c=
  12166. ie
  12167. zaczyna si=EA to powolutku zmienia=E6).
  12168.  
  12169. -- =
  12170.  
  12171.  
  12172.    // Artur Muszynski (AMST/UNION) A4000/040/EGS
  12173.  \//  e-mail: amst@union.org.pl
  12174.  
  12175. From owner-amigapl  Thu Mar 12 16:43:20 1998
  12176. Received: from willow.oi.pz.zgora.pl (spajk@willow.oi.pz.zgora.pl [193.59.82.212]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA01503 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 16:31:34 +0100 (MET)
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  12179.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 16:37:01 +0100 (CET)
  12180. Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 16:37:01 +0100 (CET)
  12181. From: Dariusz Woloch <spajk@willow.oi.pz.zgora.pl>
  12182. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  12183. Subject: CED i arexx HELP!!!
  12184. In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.3.95.980312134542.24800A-100000@ernie>
  12185. Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.3.96.980312163043.16489C-100000@willow.oi.pz.zgora.pl>
  12186. MIME-Version: 1.0
  12187. Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
  12188.  
  12189. Hejka!!!:)
  12190.  
  12191. Poszukuje osob/y obeznanej w arexxie
  12192. by pomogla mi w napisaniu skryptu do ced'a:)
  12193. Skrypt powinien szukac w tekscie podanego wyrazu (ciagu znakow),
  12194. a nastepnie usuwac cala linie z tym wyrazem.
  12195. Dobrze by bylo gdyby w poszukiwanym ciagu znakow mozna bylo
  12196. uzywac dzokerow :)) '*'.
  12197.  
  12198.     _\_                          _/_  
  12199. |)\/  (o\ Dariusz Woloch (d2)  /o)  \/(| irc d2
  12200. |)/\__(_/ phone 075-734-2683   \_)__/\(| icq 6828655 
  12201. Summon Your Faith - Your Intention Must Be Clear 
  12202.  
  12203. From owner-amigapl  Thu Mar 12 16:43:41 1998
  12204. Received: from silter.silesia.top.pl (silter.silesia.top.pl [195.117.67.3]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA01509 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 16:35:10 +0100 (MET)
  12205. Received: from ppp-wct82.katowice.tpnet.pl (yoyo@ppp-wct82.katowice.tpnet.pl [194.204.181.82])
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  12207.     Thu, 12 Mar 1998 16:33:03 +0100 (CET)
  12208. Date: 12 Mar 98 12:32:17 +0100
  12209. From: "Grzegorz Juraszek" <yoyo@silesia.top.pl>
  12210. Subject: Locale do THORa
  12211. To: ""amiga@plearn.edu.pl, amigapl@amiga.com.pl
  12212. Message-ID: <437.375T894T7521618@silesia.top.pl>
  12213. MIME-Version: 1.0
  12214. Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
  12215. Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit
  12216. X-Mailer: THOR 2.5 (Amiga;TCP/IP) *UNREGISTERED*
  12217.  
  12218. Ostateczna (mam nadzieje ;) beta wersja czeka na zainteresowanie testerow.
  12219. Niestety po padzie twardziela nie pamietam kto przedtem bral, wiec prosze
  12220. o powtorne zgloszenia.
  12221.  
  12222. --
  12223.    Grzegorz Juraszek * Yoyo^Twilight * Amiga user * AIRI & ATO PL member
  12224.        mailto:yoyo@silesia.top.pl * http://www.silesia.top.pl/~yoyo
  12225. --
  12226.              "Let the truth be known though the heavens fall"
  12227.                     Agent Mulder * The X-Files * Redux
  12228.  
  12229. From owner-amigapl  Thu Mar 12 16:43:48 1998
  12230. Received: from butler.medianet.pl (root@butler.medianet.com.pl [195.116.184.2]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA01505 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 16:34:27 +0100 (MET)
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  12233.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 16:33:53 +0100 (MET)
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  12236.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 16:34:54 GMT
  12237. From: Artur Muszynski <amst@union.org.pl>
  12238. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  12239. Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 15:51:17 +0100
  12240. Message-ID: <yam7375.871.123588816@mail.union.org.pl>
  12241. In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.3.95.980312080851.377A-100000@student.man.radom.pl>
  12242. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  12243. Organization: Union
  12244. Subject: Re: mUSASHI and AmigaOS
  12245. MIME-Version: 1.0
  12246. X-ISO-CONVERTED: Yam_ISO2 1.05 (02.11.97) (c) Silver Dream !
  12247. X-YAMISO-UPDATE: ftp://wfmh.man.szczecin.pl/pub/yam_iso2/
  12248. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  12249. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  12250.  
  12251. On 12-Mar-98, Kudla Michal wrote:
  12252. > Wprowadzenie:
  12253. > ACS 1/98 s. 25 =
  12254.  
  12255. > "mUSASHI:Ot=F3rz...Sama Amiga ma CHORY system operacyjny (w por=F3wnani=
  12256. u do
  12257. > innych)"
  12258.  
  12259. > Mo=BFna to traktowa=E6 jako obraza. Ja uwa=BFam, =BFe powinno=B6ci=B1 r=
  12260. edaktora
  12261. > (Macieja Matyki) by=B3o kontynuowa=E6 ten temat. Lecz jego chyba zatka=B3=
  12262. o. Mnie
  12263. > zatka=B3o. Mo=BFe kto=B6 z czytaj=B1cych zna tego filozofa i spyta si=E6=
  12264.  go o co mu
  12265. > chodzi=B3o? Ja bynajmniej chia=B3bym wiedzie=E6 w czym AmigaOS
  12266. > (multitasting) odstaje od innych i jakich? Oczywi=B6cie same konkrety.
  12267.  
  12268. NIE ZNASZ MUSASHIEGO??? Gdzie=B6 ty si=EA uchowa=B3 :-) Pokr=F3tce: Musas=
  12269. hi urodzi=B3
  12270. si=EA, uko=F1czy=B3 itd :-) w ka=BFdym razie jest jednym z najlepszych ko=
  12271. der=F3w na
  12272. Amig=EA i w og=F3le bardzo dobrym programist=B1 (o ile ma sens takie
  12273. rozgraniczenie). Do programowania na Amidze u=BFywa(=B3) w 100% assembler=
  12274. a,
  12275. dlatego jego spojrzenie na AmigaOS jest troch=EA spaczone :-) Znaj=B1c za=
  12276. =B6 jego
  12277. dzie=B3a (raczej Dzie=B3a) wybaczy=B3by=B6 mu jego brak zrozumienia wielk=
  12278. o=B6ci
  12279. AmigaOSu, a na pewno nie pisa=B3 jego (Jego) ksywki z ma=B3ej litery :-/
  12280.  
  12281. -- =
  12282.  
  12283.  
  12284.    // Artur Muszynski (AMST/UNION) A4000/040/EGS
  12285.  \//  e-mail: amst@union.org.pl
  12286.  
  12287. From owner-amigapl  Thu Mar 12 17:13:12 1998
  12288. Received: from poczta.tom.pl ([195.117.200.1]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA01579 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 16:55:59 +0100 (MET)
  12289. Received: (qmail 2046 invoked from network); 12 Mar 1998 15:56:01 -0000
  12290. Received: from ppp4-78.warszawa.tpnet.pl (HELO friko2.onet.pl) (misha@195.205.246.78)
  12291.   by poczta.tom.pl with SMTP; 12 Mar 1998 15:56:01 -0000
  12292. From: Michal Durys <misha@friko2.onet.pl>
  12293. Reply-To: misha@friko2.onet.pl
  12294. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  12295. Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 22:19:00 +0100
  12296. Message-ID: <yam7374.44.18568408@poczta.tom.pl>
  12297. In-Reply-To: <yam7374.166.139241936@fiber.net.pl>
  12298. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.3a [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  12299. Organization: El Condor Software
  12300. Subject: Re: Flop pc -> flop do A600
  12301. MIME-Version: 1.0
  12302. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
  12303. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  12304.  
  12305. On 11-Mar-98 Miloslaw Smyk generated such output:
  12306. >Cze=F4=EA.
  12307.  
  12308. >Kumpel zada=EE mi nast=EBpuj=E2ce pytanie:
  12309.  
  12310. >"czy wiesz jak przerobic flopa pc na flopa do amigi 600?"
  12311.  
  12312. >Ja niestety nie mam poj=EBcia, ale mo=FBe na li=F4cie jest kto=F4 kto wi=
  12313. e?
  12314.  
  12315. O ile pami=EBtam nie ma wi=EBkszych problem=F3w z przer=F3bk=E2 stacji do=
  12316.  
  12317. u=FBywania jedynie jako DD. Cyrki zaczynaj=E2 si=EB, gdy chcesz mie=EA st=
  12318. acj=EB
  12319. HD. Stosowne doki wraz ze schematami s=E2 na Aminecie (pewnie
  12320. hard/hack), na MACD 1 lub 2 (w katalogu Jamesa), a w postaci
  12321. drukowanej (po polsku!) w jednym z numer=F3w MA. Mam nadziej=EB, =FBe o t=
  12322. o
  12323. Ci chodzi=EEo, cze=F4=EA!
  12324.  
  12325. -- =
  12326.  
  12327.  +-Misha/El Condor Software-------------misha@friko2.onet.pl
  12328.  | A1200T / '040 / 34 MB RAM / 850 MB HDD / 4x CD / USR 33.6 =
  12329.  
  12330.  +%mc60-
  12331.  
  12332. From owner-amigapl  Thu Mar 12 17:13:21 1998
  12333. Received: from poczta.tom.pl ([195.117.200.1]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA01581 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 16:56:00 +0100 (MET)
  12334. Received: (qmail 2051 invoked from network); 12 Mar 1998 15:56:06 -0000
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  12336.   by poczta.tom.pl with SMTP; 12 Mar 1998 15:56:06 -0000
  12337. From: Michal Durys <misha@friko2.onet.pl>
  12338. Reply-To: Michal Durys <misha@friko2.onet.pl>
  12339. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  12340. Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 22:14:29 +0100
  12341. Message-ID: <yam7374.1467.18568408@poczta.tom.pl>
  12342. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.3a [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  12343. Organization: El Condor Software
  12344. Subject: Re: Apollo 040
  12345. MIME-Version: 1.0
  12346. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
  12347. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  12348.  
  12349. On 11-Mar-98 Aleksander Salwa generated such output:
  12350.  
  12351. >Pytam raz jeszcze, bo nie wierze, ze nikt nie wie:
  12352.  
  12353. >Ktorego programu do kopiowania ROMu do FASTu uzywac
  12354. >z Apollo 1240 ?
  12355.  
  12356. Z tymi programami jest jak z =EEomami: s=E2 tak proste, =FBe trudno wyr=F3=
  12357. =FBni=EA
  12358. najlepszy. Funkcj=EB FastROM ma cho=EAby MCP, mo=FBna j=E2 odpali=EA gmer=
  12359. aj=E2c
  12360. w okienku przyporz=E2dkowanemu funkcji Procesor. Jednak=FBe w instrukcji
  12361. od tego=FB MCP jest napisane, =FBe sprawa jest warta zachodu jedynie gdy
  12362. masz 16 bitowy ROM (jak w A500, A600, A2000). Pozostawiam to pod Twoj=E2
  12363. rozwag=EB. Trzymaj si=EB!
  12364.  
  12365.  
  12366. -- =
  12367.  
  12368.  +-Misha/El Condor Software-------------misha@friko2.onet.pl
  12369.  | A1200T / '040 / 34 MB RAM / 850 MB HDD / 4x CD / USR 33.6 =
  12370.  
  12371.  +%mc60-
  12372.  
  12373. From owner-amigapl  Thu Mar 12 17:13:28 1998
  12374. Received: from poczta.tom.pl ([195.117.200.1]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA01585 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 16:56:09 +0100 (MET)
  12375. Received: (qmail 2065 invoked from network); 12 Mar 1998 15:56:15 -0000
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  12377.   by poczta.tom.pl with SMTP; 12 Mar 1998 15:56:15 -0000
  12378. From: Michal Durys <misha@friko2.onet.pl>
  12379. Reply-To: misha@friko2.onet.pl
  12380. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  12381. Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 21:56:01 +0100
  12382. Message-ID: <yam7374.61.18568408@poczta.tom.pl>
  12383. In-Reply-To: <yam7374.2274.1749494536@vena.telbank.pl>
  12384. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.3a [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  12385. Organization: El Condor Software
  12386. Subject: Re: Apollo 040
  12387. MIME-Version: 1.0
  12388. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
  12389. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  12390.  
  12391. On 11-Mar-98 Marek Szymanski generated such output:
  12392. >Dn. 11-Mar-98, Aleksander Salwa wklepa=EE:
  12393.  
  12394. >> Ktorego programu do kopiowania ROMu do FASTu uzywac
  12395. >> z Apollo 1240 ?
  12396.  
  12397. >Czy to konkurs Audiotele? ;-)
  12398.  
  12399. >Nie mam A1240, ale mo=FBe *CPU FASTROM*? (Sys:c) =
  12400.  
  12401.  
  12402. Zagadkowy jest fragment instrukcji od Apolla g=EEosz=E2cy, =FBe opcja
  12403. FASTROM jest niemo=FBliwa do przeprowadzenia z u=FByciem standartowej
  12404. komendu CPU. Ciekawe jakie s=E2 niestandartowe....
  12405.  
  12406. -- =
  12407.  
  12408.  +-Misha/El Condor Software-------------misha@friko2.onet.pl
  12409.  | A1200T / '040 / 34 MB RAM / 850 MB HDD / 4x CD / USR 33.6 =
  12410.  
  12411.  +%mc60-
  12412.  
  12413. From owner-amigapl  Thu Mar 12 17:13:35 1998
  12414. Received: from poczta.tom.pl ([195.117.200.1]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA01587 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 16:56:11 +0100 (MET)
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  12418. From: Michal Durys <misha@friko2.onet.pl>
  12419. Reply-To: misha@friko2.onet.pl
  12420. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  12421. Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 21:48:19 +0100
  12422. Message-ID: <yam7374.980.18568408@poczta.tom.pl>
  12423. In-Reply-To: <yam7374.517.21364296@kki.net.pl>
  12424. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.3a [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  12425. Organization: El Condor Software
  12426. Subject: Re: Apollo i 16MB SIMM
  12427. MIME-Version: 1.0
  12428. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
  12429. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  12430.  
  12431. On 11-Mar-98 Pawel Golebiewski generated such output:
  12432.  
  12433. >Przeciez w instrukcji do karty (po polsku !) jest wyraznie napisane,
  12434. >ze do Apollo stosuje sie moduly typu FPM (Fast Page Mode).
  12435. >U mnie EDO tez nie chcialo chodzic. Wlozylem FPM-a i jest OK.
  12436.  
  12437. U mnie pami=EB=EA (FPM) chodzi bez problemu, ale w polskiej instrukcji
  12438. (rev 1.4) stoi jak w=F3=EE, =FBe karta =EEyknie tak=FBe modu=EEy EDO. No =
  12439. wi=EBc jak
  12440. to jest?
  12441.  
  12442. -- =
  12443.  
  12444.  +-Misha/El Condor Software-------------misha@friko2.onet.pl
  12445.  | A1200T / '040 / 34 MB RAM / 850 MB HDD / 4x CD / USR 33.6 =
  12446.  
  12447.  +%mc60-
  12448.  
  12449. From owner-amigapl  Thu Mar 12 18:13:12 1998
  12450. Received: from arka.mtl.pl (root@mtl.pl [195.116.4.4]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA01733 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 17:53:12 +0100 (MET)
  12451. Received: from gie-da (rmod26.mtl.pl [195.116.164.28]) by arka.mtl.pl (8.8.7/8.6.12) with ESMTP id RAA16225 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 17:51:14 +0100 (MET)
  12452. Message-Id: <199803121651.RAA16225@arka.mtl.pl>
  12453. From: "Adam Zaparcinski" <gielda@mtl.pl>
  12454. To: "AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi" <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  12455. Subject: Odp: Flop pc -> flop do A600
  12456. Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 17:34:58 +0100
  12457. X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
  12458. X-Priority: 3
  12459. X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155
  12460. MIME-Version: 1.0
  12461. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2
  12462. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
  12463.  
  12464.  
  12465. >Kumpel zada³ mi nastêpuj±ce pytanie:
  12466. >
  12467. >"czy wiesz jak przerobic flopa pc na flopa do amigi 600?"
  12468. >
  12469. >Ja niestety nie mam pojêcia, ale mo¿e na li¶cie jest kto¶ kto wie?
  12470.  
  12471. My¶la³em, ¿e ju¿ temat 'wymar³' bo ludzie pokupowali hdeki i flopy odchodz± w
  12472. zapomnienie. Rzecz jest banalnie prosta je¶li umiesz pos³ugiwaæ siê lutownic±
  12473. aczkolwiek jest to trochê pracoch³onne. Je¶li chcesz to napisz na priva to
  12474. wygrzebiê gdzie¶ w przepa¶ciach moich katalogów stare pliki, które instruuj±
  12475. dok³adnie co, gdzie i jak pod³±czyæ. Tyle tylko, ¿e nawet flop HD bêdzie
  12476. dzia³a³ jako DD.
  12477.  
  12478. A mo¿e powinienem stwo¿yæ WWW z opisem? My¶licie, ¿e siê przyda?
  12479.  
  12480. See You
  12481.  
  12482. Sherwood
  12483. From owner-amigapl  Thu Mar 12 18:13:19 1998
  12484. Received: from lubusz.zeto-zg.perytnet.pl (root@lubusz.zeto-zg.perytnet.pl [194.196.86.193]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA01720 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 17:45:08 +0100 (MET)
  12485. Received: from lubusz.zeto-zg.perytnet.pl (root@linia1.zeto-zg.perytnet.pl [194.196.86.195])
  12486.     by lubusz.zeto-zg.perytnet.pl (8.8.6/8.8.6/Debian/GNU) with SMTP id RAA02308
  12487.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 17:42:46 +0100
  12488. From: Marcin Mistun <dekorav@lubusz.zeto-zg.perytnet.pl>
  12489. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  12490. Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 17:29:47 +0100
  12491. Message-ID: <yam7375.2371.136762072@lubusz.zeto-zg.perytnet.pl>
  12492. In-Reply-To: <yam7375.1067.137652904@lubusz.zeto-zg.perytnet.pl>
  12493. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  12494. Organization: M G System
  12495. Subject: Re: *** Merlin *** zarazem przepraszam
  12496. MIME-Version: 1.0
  12497. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
  12498. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  12499.  
  12500. Przede wszystkim przepraszam za poprzedniego maila. Moj blad :-((((
  12501.  
  12502. On 12-Mar-98, Marcin Mistun wrote:
  12503. >On 12-Mar-98, Marcin Soko=B3owski wrote:
  12504. >>Czesc !!
  12505.  
  12506. >>Mam okazje kupic karte 24-bit Merlin z 4 MB na pokladzie. Wiem, ze chyb=
  12507. a w
  12508. >>ktoryms ze starych "Amigowcow" (moze gdzie indziej) byla taka ladna tab=
  12509. elka
  12510. z
  12511. >>opisem wszystkich istniejacych do tamtej pory kart gfx. Niestety, podcz=
  12512. as
  12513. >>przeprowadzki wcielo mi te gazete, wiec moze ktos z obecnych tutaj mi p=
  12514. omoze
  12515. >-
  12516. >>co to takiego ? Ponoc ma ona mozliwosc rozszerzenia pamieci gfx, ale do=
  12517.  ilu
  12518. >>(?)...
  12519. >>Czy CGX na niej pojdzie ? Jak ona szybka ? Ma blitter ? Scan doubler ? =
  12520.  
  12521.  
  12522. Merlin to stara karta z bodajze ET 4000 . Mala byc super ale niewszylo ;-=
  12523. )
  12524. Mozna ja rozszerzyc w ostatniej ver. do 16 mb ramu i to jej chyba jedyna
  12525. niewielka zaleta. ET 4000 ma bliter,nie ma scandublera  oprogramowanie do=
  12526.  
  12527. karty nazywa sie probench lub podobnie a cgx 3 jej nieobsluguje IMHO.
  12528. Dokladne info na http://www.vgr.com
  12529. -- =
  12530.  
  12531.              Marcin "Magazynio" Mistun
  12532.          mailto:dekorav@lubusz.zeto-zg.perytnet.pl
  12533. Happy User of A3000/040-106MB Ram/CV64-3D/Toccata/MFC III FastlineZIII
  12534.  
  12535. From owner-amigapl  Thu Mar 12 19:13:19 1998
  12536. Received: from iftia6.univ.gda.pl (iftia6.univ.gda.pl [153.19.6.6]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA01864 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 18:59:19 +0100 (MET)
  12537. Received: from ppp154b.gdansk.tpnet.pl by iftia6.univ.gda.pl with SMTP
  12538.     (1.38.193.4/16.2) id AA15976; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 19:08:39 +0100
  12539. From: Marcin Ostrowski <amizaur@box43.gnet.pl>
  12540. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  12541. Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 18:42:53 +0100
  12542. Message-Id: <yam7375.2676.3990320@iftia6.univ.gda.pl>
  12543. In-Reply-To: <yam7374.166.139241936@fiber.net.pl>
  12544. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  12545. Subject: Re: Flop pc -> flop do A600
  12546. Mime-Version: 1.0
  12547. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  12548. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  12549.  
  12550. Dnia 11-Mar-98, Miloslaw Smyk napisa=EE:
  12551. >Cze=B6=E6.
  12552.  
  12553. >Kumpel zada=B3 mi nast=EApuj=B1ce pytanie:
  12554.  
  12555. >"czy wiesz jak przerobic flopa pc na flopa do amigi 600?"
  12556.  
  12557. >Ja niestety nie mam poj=EAcia, ale mo=BFe na li=B6cie jest kto=B6 kto wi=
  12558. e?
  12559.  
  12560.  
  12561. Hm... Ja nie wiem, ale wiem, ze mozna i wiem, kto wie jak :)))
  12562.  
  12563. Musialbym do niego zadzwonic albo (jesli Ci sie nie spieszy)
  12564. gdy za pare dni bede w Grudziadzu wypytam go osobiscie,
  12565. przez telefon trudno przekazac rysunek czy schemat...
  12566. Od razu uprzedzam ewentualne odpowiedzi - faxu nie mam :)))
  12567.  
  12568. Jesli sie spieszy, to zadzwonie do niego i zapytam o jego
  12569. adres (cos mi sie zdaje ze ostatnio modem kupil) to mi
  12570. to opisze e-mailem.
  12571.  
  12572. Na razie!
  12573. -- =
  12574.  
  12575.  
  12576.                              Marcin Ostrowski
  12577.                        A1200/030/882/28/10Mb/170Mb
  12578.                           High-Radiation C1085S
  12579.                                modem 28800
  12580.  
  12581.  
  12582.                                     mailto:amizaur@box43.gnet.pl
  12583.  
  12584. From owner-amigapl  Thu Mar 12 20:43:13 1998
  12585. Received: from poczta.tom.pl ([195.117.200.1]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA02003 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 20:19:01 +0100 (MET)
  12586. Received: (qmail 3207 invoked from network); 12 Mar 1998 19:18:56 -0000
  12587. Received: from ppp4-47.warszawa.tpnet.pl (HELO friko2.onet.pl) (misha@195.205.246.47)
  12588.   by poczta.tom.pl with SMTP; 12 Mar 1998 19:18:56 -0000
  12589. From: Michal Durys <misha@friko2.onet.pl>
  12590. Reply-To: misha@friko2.onet.pl
  12591. To: AmigaPL <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  12592. Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 18:05:10 +0100
  12593. Message-ID: <yam7375.540.18585408@poczta.tom.pl>
  12594. X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
  12595. Organization: El Condor Software
  12596. Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Styk=F3wki?=
  12597. MIME-Version: 1.0
  12598. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  12599. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  12600.  
  12601. Cze=B6=E6!
  12602.  
  12603. Poszukuj=EA skryptu arrexa dla ImageFX do generowania styk=F3wek (obrazki=
  12604.  
  12605. przegl=B1dowe). Co=B6 takiego jak Snapshot.ifx, ale:
  12606. =B7 z mo=BFliwo=B6ci=B1 wyboru czcionki jak=B1 s=B1 podpisywane obrazki
  12607. =B7 z opcj=B1 dodawania do podpis=F3w parametr=F3w obrazka (np: rozmiar=F3=
  12608. w)
  12609. =B7 nie pomijaj=B1cy obrazk=F3w ze spacjami w nazwie
  12610. A mo=BFe jest jaki=B6 dobry program do tego?
  12611.  
  12612. -- =
  12613.  
  12614.  +-Misha/El Condor Software-------------misha@friko2.onet.pl
  12615.  | A1200T / '040 / 34 MB RAM / 850 MB HDD / 4x CD / USR 33.6 =
  12616.  
  12617.  +----------------------------------------------------------
  12618.  
  12619. From owner-amigapl  Thu Mar 12 21:13:14 1998
  12620. Received: from friko2.onet.pl (root@friko2.onet.pl [194.204.191.6]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA02085 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 20:45:30 +0100 (MET)
  12621. Received: from friko2.onet.pl (GRANACIK@ppp2-cst10.warszawa.tpnet.pl [195.116.250.10])
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  12623.       id UAA02736 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 20:39:04 +0100
  12624. From: Blazej Zagozda <granacik@friko2.onet.pl>
  12625. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  12626. Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 20:40:13 GMT0
  12627. Message-ID: <yam7375.669.506660504@friko2.onet.pl>
  12628. In-Reply-To: <199803111610.RAA27454@arka.mtl.pl>
  12629. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  12630. Subject: Re: Do Admina
  12631. MIME-Version: 1.0
  12632. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
  12633. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  12634.  
  12635. Dnia 10-Mar-98, Adam Zaparcinski napisa=EE:
  12636. >W zasadzie powinienem wys=EEa=EA to na priva Adminowi ale mam cich=E2 na=
  12637. dziej=EB, =FBe
  12638. >coponiekt=F3rzy mnie popr=E2.
  12639.  
  12640. (...)
  12641.  
  12642. >Przepraszam za moje rozgoryczenie ale... ludzie z 14400 na pewno mnie
  12643. >zrozumiej=E2.
  12644.  
  12645. A co ja mam na to powiedziec jak mam przedpotopowy modem o kosmicznej wre=
  12646. cz
  12647. predkosci 2400bps ??? Postawcie sie w mojej sytuacji... =
  12648.  
  12649. Chociaz  profilaktycznym  rozwiazaniem  jest  ustawienie  w  Yamie  funkc=
  12650. ji
  12651. sprawdzania  dlugosci listow do np. max ok 10kb... i pomijanie dluzszych.=
  12652.  
  12653. Chyba jeszcze nikogo nie napadlo natchnienie, zeby wysmazyc tekst 600kb :=
  12654. ) =
  12655.  
  12656.  
  12657. pozdrowionka
  12658. Granacik
  12659.  
  12660. From owner-amigapl  Thu Mar 12 21:43:12 1998
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  12662. Received: from friko2.onet.pl (PPP@pppa205.szczecin.tpnet.pl [194.204.141.205])
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  12664.       id VAA06643 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 21:18:50 +0100
  12665. From: "Andrzej 'Killer' Kielar" <kielar@friko2.onet.pl>
  12666. Reply-To: "Andrzej 'Killer' Kielar" <kielar@friko2.onet.pl>
  12667. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  12668. Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 21:10:06 +0100
  12669. Message-ID: <yam7375.334.19052896@friko2.onet.pl>
  12670. In-Reply-To: <199803121651.RAA16225@arka.mtl.pl>
  12671. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  12672. Organization: Amiga
  12673. Subject: Re: Odp: Flop pc -> flop do A600
  12674. MIME-Version: 1.0
  12675. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
  12676. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  12677.  
  12678. Dnia 11-Mar-98, Adam Zaparcinski wyskroba=EE:
  12679.  
  12680. > Tyle tylko, =FBe nawet flop HD b=EBdzie
  12681. >dzia=EEa=EE jako DD.
  12682.  
  12683. Ale dlaczego HD b=EBdzie dzia=EEa=EE tylko jako DD ?
  12684. Czy naprawd=EB nie ma na to jakiego=F4 wyj=F4cia ?
  12685. Czy m=F3g=EEby=F4 mi sendn=E2=EA takie instrukcje ? M=F3j flop mi siada a=
  12686.  mam jaki=F4 od
  12687. PyCy.
  12688.  =
  12689.  
  12690. -- =
  12691.  
  12692. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
  12693. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
  12694. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
  12695.  
  12696.                           Andrzej 'Killer' Kielar                        =
  12697.      =
  12698.  
  12699.         =
  12700.  
  12701.                         E-MAIL kielar@friko2.onet.pl                     =
  12702.      =
  12703.  
  12704.       =
  12705.  
  12706.                  A1200/040/33MHz/18MB/850MB/C1084S/TORNADO-33600         =
  12707.      =
  12708.  
  12709.            =
  12710.  
  12711. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
  12712. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
  12713. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
  12714.  
  12715.  
  12716. From owner-amigapl  Thu Mar 12 21:43:19 1998
  12717. Received: from friko2.onet.pl (root@friko2.onet.pl [194.204.191.6]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA02178 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 21:25:13 +0100 (MET)
  12718. Received: from friko2.onet.pl (PPP@pppa205.szczecin.tpnet.pl [194.204.141.205])
  12719.           by friko2.onet.pl (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP
  12720.       id VAA06663 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 21:18:58 +0100
  12721. From: "Andrzej 'Killer' Kielar" <kielar@friko2.onet.pl>
  12722. Reply-To: "Andrzej 'Killer' Kielar" <kielar@friko2.onet.pl>
  12723. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  12724. Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 21:15:32 +0100
  12725. Message-ID: <yam7375.1622.19052896@friko2.onet.pl>
  12726. In-Reply-To: <yam7374.894.2016091000@priv.onet.pl>
  12727. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  12728. Organization: Amiga
  12729. Subject: Re: DOpus 5.65
  12730. MIME-Version: 1.0
  12731. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
  12732. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  12733.  
  12734. Dnia 11-Mar-98, RHS Linux User wyskroba=EE:
  12735. >Ponadto gdzie legalnie mog=EA znale=BC=E6 AsmOne1.30(pe=B3ne archivum) o=
  12736. raz upgrade
  12737. >Magellana z 5.61 do 5.65.To pierwsze podobno freeware,drugie chyba te=BF=
  12738.  skoro
  12739. >zamie=B6cili 5.65 ->5.66 na ktorym=B6 kompakcie ACS-u.Niestety na aminec=
  12740. ie nie
  12741. >znalaz=B3em.
  12742.  
  12743. Producent Directory Opus'a 5 :
  12744. http://www.gpsoft.com.au/
  12745. Ale do tego b=EBdzie Ci potrzebna wersja 5.62. Osobi=F4cie mam t=E2 wersj=
  12746. =EB (5.62),
  12747.  lecz nie mog=EB jej zainstalowa=EA.
  12748. Powodzenia.
  12749. -- =
  12750.  
  12751. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
  12752. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
  12753. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
  12754.  
  12755.                           Andrzej 'Killer' Kielar                        =
  12756.      =
  12757.  
  12758.         =
  12759.  
  12760.                         E-MAIL kielar@friko2.onet.pl                     =
  12761.      =
  12762.  
  12763.       =
  12764.  
  12765.                  A1200/040/33MHz/18MB/850MB/C1084S/TORNADO-33600         =
  12766.      =
  12767.  
  12768.            =
  12769.  
  12770. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
  12771. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
  12772. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
  12773.  
  12774.  
  12775. From owner-amigapl  Thu Mar 12 22:13:12 1998
  12776. Received: from www.kki.net.pl (www.kki.net.pl [195.116.9.70]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA02213 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 21:47:50 +0100 (MET)
  12777. Received: from friko.onet.pl (lukzag@[194.183.59.58])
  12778.     by www.kki.net.pl (8.8.7/8.8.7.ver6) with SMTP id VAA13379
  12779.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 21:45:52 +0100
  12780. From: Darek Gora <gural@friko.onet.pl>
  12781. Reply-To: gural@kki.net.pl
  12782. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  12783. Date: Wed, 02 Sep 1992 13:46:32 UTC-1
  12784. Message-ID: <yam5358.1610.30474192@195.116.9.70>
  12785. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  12786. Subject: MIDI
  12787. MIME-Version: 1.0
  12788. Content-Type: text/plain
  12789.  
  12790. Czesc
  12791.  
  12792. Ostatnio poproszono mnie abym przerobil pliki midi z formatu MUSIC-X 1.0 na
  12793. normalne midi.
  12794. Uruchomilem znane mi programy lecz zaden z nich nie czytal tego formatu.
  12795. Poszukuje probramu ktorym mozna przerobic te pliki na .MID (dzwieki pozniej
  12796. sam podloze). Czy moglby mi ktos podac namiary na te programy.
  12797.  
  12798. P.S.
  12799. Moze ktos moglby mi przerobic te pliki przesle na e-mail
  12800. Pliki zajmuja lacznie 150k
  12801.  
  12802. Pozdrowienia dla wszystkich a w szczegolnosci dla ADMIA!!
  12803.  
  12804. -- 
  12805.  
  12806.         gural@kki.net.pl
  12807.       www.kki.net.pl/gural
  12808.   A1200T 040/40MHz 850HDD 10RAM
  12809.      Hayes Accura 288 + Fax
  12810.  
  12811. From owner-amigapl  Thu Mar 12 23:13:12 1998
  12812. Received: from mx1.polbox.com (mx1.polbox.com [195.116.5.16]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA02355 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 22:45:18 +0100 (MET)
  12813. Received: from polbox.com (Gobo@ppp246.bydgoszcz.tpnet.pl [194.204.139.246])
  12814.     by mx1.polbox.com (8.8.8/rev-A0) with SMTP id WAA06603
  12815.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 22:46:14 +0100
  12816. From: Adam Lewandowski <leware3@polbox.com>
  12817. Reply-To: leware3@polbox.com
  12818. To: amigapl@amiga.com.pl
  12819. Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 22:11:44 +0100
  12820. Message-ID: <yam7375.2245.18034528@smtp.polbox.com>
  12821. In-Reply-To: <yam7374.517.21364296@kki.net.pl>
  12822. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  12823. Organization: Chata privata
  12824. Subject: Re: Apollo i 16MB SIMM
  12825. MIME-Version: 1.0
  12826. X-ISO-CONVERTED: Yam_ISO2 1.06 (17.11.97) (c) Silver Dream !
  12827. X-YAMISO-UPDATE: ftp://wfmh.org.pl/pub/yam_iso2/
  12828. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  12829. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  12830.  
  12831.  
  12832. >>Kupilem Apollo 040/33MHz, kupilem kosc EDO 16MB - wkladam to w
  12833. >>Amige i co? I system widzi tylko 10MB (2+8 :) dostepnej pamieci. =
  12834.  
  12835.  
  12836. >Przeciez w instrukcji do karty (po polsku !) jest wyraznie napisane,
  12837. >ze do Apollo stosuje sie moduly typu FPM (Fast Page Mode).
  12838. >U mnie EDO tez nie chcialo chodzic. Wlozylem FPM-a i jest OK.
  12839.  
  12840. Hi!
  12841.  
  12842. Mo=BFe macie co=B6 nie tak w komputerze np. program FastExec?
  12843. U mnie Amisia szala=B3a gdy wk=B3ada=B3em 32MB EDO i widzia=B3=B1 tylko 8=
  12844. MB !
  12845. Teraz mam 2x16MB EDO, FastExec skasowa=B3em i wszystko gra.
  12846.  
  12847. Pozdrawiam.
  12848. -- =
  12849.  
  12850.                  -+-------------------------------------+-
  12851.                /  |      LeWaR - Adam Lewandowski       | \     =
  12852.  
  12853.               |   | A1200T 040/33MHz 34MB RAM 2,5GB HDD |  |
  12854.                \  |         leware3@polbox.com          | /
  12855.                  -+-------------------------------------+-
  12856.  
  12857.  
  12858. ----- [ REKLAMA / ADVERTISEMENT ] ------------------------
  12859.  
  12860. Zostan Autoryzowanym Partnerem Polbox On-Line Service!
  12861. Szczegoly:  http://www.polbox.pl/98partner.html
  12862.  
  12863. ----------------------------------------------------------
  12864.  
  12865. From owner-amigapl  Thu Mar 12 23:13:20 1998
  12866. Received: from www.kki.net.pl (www.kki.net.pl [195.116.9.70]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA02353 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 22:45:05 +0100 (MET)
  12867. Received: from kki.net.pl (AKM-MAYA@pppa202.szczecin.tpnet.pl [194.204.141.202])
  12868.     by www.kki.net.pl (8.8.7/8.8.7.ver6) with SMTP id WAA25312
  12869.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 22:43:17 +0100
  12870. From: Adam Majewski <akmmaya@kki.net.pl>
  12871. Reply-To: Adam Majewski <akmmaya@kki.net.pl>
  12872. To: WFMH-AmigaPL <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  12873. Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 22:37:38 +0100
  12874. Message-ID: <yam7375.1919.1747642336@kki.net.pl>
  12875. In-Reply-To: <yam7375.334.19052896@friko2.onet.pl>
  12876. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  12877. Subject: Re: Odp: Flop pc -> flop do A600
  12878. MIME-Version: 1.0
  12879. X-ISO-CONVERTED: Yam_ISO2 1.06 (17.11.97) (c) Silver Dream !
  12880. X-YAMISO-UPDATE: ftp://wfmh.org.pl/pub/yam_iso2/
  12881. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  12882. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  12883.  
  12884. Dnia 12-Mar-98, Andrzej 'Killer' Kielar napisa=B3:
  12885.  
  12886. >Dnia 11-Mar-98, Adam Zaparcinski wyskroba=B3:
  12887.  
  12888. >> Tyle tylko, =BFe nawet flop HD b=EAdzie
  12889. >>dzia=B3a=B3 jako DD.
  12890.  
  12891. >Ale dlaczego HD b=EAdzie dzia=B3a=B3 tylko jako DD ?
  12892. >Czy naprawd=EA nie ma na to jakiego=B6 wyj=B6cia ?
  12893. >Czy m=F3g=B3by=B6 mi sendn=B1=E6 takie instrukcje ? M=F3j flop mi siada =
  12894. a mam jaki=B6 od
  12895. >PyCy.
  12896. > =
  12897.  
  12898.  
  12899. Niestety flopy od pc r=F3=BFni=B1 si=EA troch=EA budow=B1 wewn=EAtrzn=B1.=
  12900.  Jest oczywi=B6cie
  12901. spos=F3b aby stacja dzia=B3a=B3a jako hd (amiga potrafi wszystko :),
  12902. ale trzeba si=EA bawi=E6 lutownic=B1, dolutowa=E6 kilka uk=B3ad=F3w itp. =
  12903. itd.
  12904. Podsumowuj=B1c: jest to gra nie warta =B6wieczki :(
  12905. lepiej kupi=E6 hd flopa u micronica
  12906.  
  12907. -- =
  12908.  
  12909. Pozdrawiam :-)
  12910.  
  12911. mailto: akmmaya@kki.net.pl
  12912. www: http://www.kki.net.pl/akmmaya
  12913.  
  12914. :-)  w=F3wren  eibos  juCP  ein  (-:
  12915.                                                            Adam Majewski
  12916.  
  12917.  
  12918.  
  12919. From owner-amigapl  Thu Mar 12 23:43:13 1998
  12920. Received: from server.fiber.net.pl (server.fiber.net.pl [195.117.208.101]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA02462 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 23:32:47 +0100 (MET)
  12921. Received: from amiga.com.pl (pppa147.szczecin.tpnet.pl [194.204.141.147])
  12922.           by server.fiber.net.pl (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with SMTP
  12923.           id AAB28477 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>;
  12924.           Thu, 12 Mar 1998 23:31:14 +0100
  12925. From: Miloslaw Smyk <thorgal@amiga.com.pl>
  12926. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  12927. Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 23:27:30 +0100
  12928. Message-ID: <yam7375.1505.139253152@fiber.net.pl>
  12929. In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.3.95.980312081255.377C-100000@student.man.radom.pl>
  12930. X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 beta10 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
  12931. Organization: W.F.M.H.
  12932. Subject: Re: DEV:Dlaczego GCC?
  12933. MIME-Version: 1.0
  12934. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  12935. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  12936.  
  12937. Dnia 12-Mar-98, Kudla Michal rzek=B3 co nast=EApuje:
  12938. > A tak BTW Amiga INC powinna stworzy=E6
  12939. > jaki=B6 interface do j=EAzyka C++, gdy=BF jest to jednak inny j=EAzyk
  12940. > programowania.
  12941.  
  12942. ???
  12943.  
  12944. > Jest nawet bardziej naturalny ni=BF jakikolwiek inny j=EAzyk.
  12945.  
  12946. Bez przesady.
  12947.  
  12948. > Ogl=B1dam si=EA troszk=EA=A0za Jav=B1, ale tu te=BF jakby Amiga =B6pi. =
  12949. Koder=F3w mamy
  12950. > wy=B6mienitych ale programist=F3w ...(urazi=B3em sporo os=F3b, Wybaczci=
  12951. e).
  12952.  
  12953. Wybaczamy. Niestety nie ka=BFdy moze by=E6 koderem. :)
  12954.  
  12955. > Oczywi=B6cie jest rozwi=B1zanie. Nale=BFy zainstalowa=E6 kaffe i urucho=
  12956. mi=E6
  12957. > kompilator stworzony ostatnio przez Suna w czystym j=EAzyku Java. Mnie =
  12958. na to
  12959. > nie sta=E6 - SORRY. Je=B6li si=EA to komu=B6 uda prosz=EA o kontakt.
  12960.  
  12961. Dzia=B3a, ale powoli. Dy=BFo sensowniej jest zainstalowa=E6 guavac i komp=
  12962. ilowa=E6 z
  12963. jego pomoc=B1. Jako=B6=E6 kodu mo=BFe ciut gorsza (przynajmniej dla paru =
  12964. prostych
  12965. rzeczy, kt=F3re kiedy=B6 sprawdzi=B3em), ale kompilacja o niebo szybsza. =
  12966. A
  12967. testowa=E6 najlepiej na AppletRunnerze z Apple (ShapeShifter).
  12968.  
  12969. Mi=B3ek
  12970. -- =
  12971.  
  12972. mailto:thorgal@amiga.com.pl   |  "Man in the Moon and other weird things"=
  12973.  -
  12974. http://wfmh.org.pl/~thorgal/  |  see it at http://wfmh.org.pl/~thorgal/Mo=
  12975. on/
  12976.  
  12977. From owner-amigapl  Thu Mar 12 23:43:22 1998
  12978. Received: from server.fiber.net.pl (server.fiber.net.pl [195.117.208.101]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA02460 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 23:32:46 +0100 (MET)
  12979. Received: from amiga.com.pl (pppa147.szczecin.tpnet.pl [194.204.141.147])
  12980.           by server.fiber.net.pl (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with SMTP
  12981.           id AAA28477 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>;
  12982.           Thu, 12 Mar 1998 23:31:13 +0100
  12983. From: Miloslaw Smyk <thorgal@amiga.com.pl>
  12984. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  12985. Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 17:27:35 +0100
  12986. Message-ID: <yam7375.1760.139332112@fiber.net.pl>
  12987. In-Reply-To: <646.374T2624T13674822@polbox.com>
  12988. X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 beta10 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
  12989. Organization: W.F.M.H.
  12990. Subject: Re: Cyberstorm 060 do A4000
  12991. MIME-Version: 1.0
  12992. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  12993. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  12994.  
  12995. Cze=B6=E6,
  12996.  
  12997. Dnia 11-Mar-98, Marek Jablonski rzek=B3 co nast=EApuje:
  12998.  
  12999. >> AssignWedge                 3412 ----rwed 02-Lip-96    23:13:27
  13000. >> ClickToFront                3904 ----rwed 02-Lip-96    23:13:24
  13001. >> cgxdpms                     3480 ----rwed 14-Gru-97    14:19:52
  13002. > =
  13003.  
  13004. >> multicx                    25224 ----rwed 12-Maj-97    17:37:28
  13005. > =
  13006.  
  13007. > Czy aby _sam_ MultiCX nie zast=B1pi=B3by z powodzeniem tej tr=F3jki?
  13008.  
  13009. Nie do ko=F1ca. AssignWedge w wersji mcx ma b=B3=EAdy. ClickToFront to sa=
  13010. mo - z
  13011. now=B1 layers.library z CGFX nie dzia=B3a nale=BFycie. dpms natomiast zaw=
  13012. sze
  13013. wywleka mi na wierzch Workbencha, co w sytuacji gdy i tak wszystkie ekran=
  13014. y
  13015. mam na karcie jest bez sensu.
  13016.  
  13017. >> RTPatch                    24468 ----rwed 02-Lip-96    23:13:27
  13018. > =
  13019.  
  13020. > B=F3j si=EA Boga, Mi=B3ek! Chyba nie po to patchowa=B3e=B6 asl.library?=
  13021. !
  13022.  
  13023. Hehe. :) RTPatch paczuje mi jedynie Intuition. EasyRequesty w lewym g=F3r=
  13024. nym
  13025. rogu nie wygl=B1daj=B1 najlepiej...
  13026.  
  13027. >> StopFlash
  13028. > =
  13029.  
  13030. > Co to?
  13031.  
  13032. To taka =B3ajna =B3atka napisana przez autora DOpusa, kt=F3ra usuwa mruga=
  13033. nie
  13034. pojawiaj=B1ce si=EA, je=B6li napisy na belce ekranu szybko si=EA zmieniaj=
  13035. =B1. Poza tym
  13036. przyspiesza=B3o to znacznie cz=EA=B6=E6 operacji w Opusie 4, kt=F3ry upie=
  13037. ra=B3 si=EA przy
  13038. raportowaniu wszystkiego na belce w=B3a=B6nie.
  13039.  
  13040. Oryginalna funkcja za ka=BFdym razem odrysowuje gadget g=B3=EAboko=B6ci e=
  13041. kranu, a
  13042. jest to niepotrzebne...
  13043.  
  13044.  
  13045. Hej,
  13046. Mi=B3ek
  13047. -- =
  13048.  
  13049. mailto:thorgal@amiga.com.pl   |  "Man in the Moon and other weird things"=
  13050.  -
  13051. http://wfmh.org.pl/~thorgal/  |  see it at http://wfmh.org.pl/~thorgal/Mo=
  13052. on/
  13053.  
  13054. From owner-amigapl  Fri Mar 13 02:43:12 1998
  13055. Received: from friko.onet.pl (friko.onet.pl [194.204.191.9]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id CAA04578 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 02:14:05 +0100 (MET)
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  13059. From: RHS Linux User <malafifi@friko.onet.pl>
  13060. Reply-To: malafifi@friko.onet.pl
  13061. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  13062. Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 01:46:02 +0100
  13063. Message-ID: <yam7376.115.2016094256@priv.onet.pl>
  13064. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  13065. Organization: SIEDZIBA =?iso-8859-2?Q?DIAB=A3A?=
  13066. Subject: asl.library raz jeszcze
  13067. MIME-Version: 1.0
  13068. X-ISO-CONVERTED: Yam_ISO2 1.03 (15.10.97) (c) Silver Dream !
  13069. X-YAMISO-UPDATE: ftp://wfmh.man.szczecin.pl/pub/yam_iso2/
  13070. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  13071. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  13072.  
  13073. Hej.
  13074. Jak zrobi=E6 =BFeby ze wszystkich tryb=F3w ID wyfiltrowa=E6 takie kt=F3re=
  13075.  s=B1 np nie
  13076. wieksze
  13077. ni=BF 320*256.Czyli np wszyskie lowresy.
  13078. Czy nale=BFy to zrobi=E6 tagiem ASLSM_PropertyFlag i Mask czy te=BF
  13079. ASLSM_FilterFunc.
  13080. Jaki kod nale=BFy wstawi=E6 w funkcj=EA obs=B3ugi hooka kt=F3rego adres z=
  13081. najduje si=EA w
  13082. h_Entry.
  13083. Ja mam kod kt=F3ry wygl=B1da tak:
  13084.  
  13085. procedura:
  13086. lea mojastrukturahook(pc),a0
  13087. move.l #HIRES_KEY,a1
  13088. move.l adresstrukturyscreenmoderequest(pc),a2
  13089. rts
  13090.  
  13091. Niestety nie zauwa=BFy=B3em =BFeby to spowodowa=B3o jakie=B6 inne dzia=B3=
  13092. anie poza
  13093. standardowym
  13094. kt=F3rego tagi definiuja screenmoderequest.Standardowe oznacza w tym wypa=
  13095. dku
  13096. nieu=BFywanie
  13097. tagu ASLSM_FilterFunc.
  13098.  
  13099. Mo=BFe kto=B6 ma jaki=B6 przyk=B3adzik wy=B6wietlaj=B1cy tylko =BF=B1dane=
  13100.  tryby (chodzi mi o
  13101. ustawienia tag=F3w).
  13102.  
  13103.  
  13104. -- =
  13105.  
  13106.               ---------------------------------------------------
  13107.               |     RHS Linux User znany jako Andrzej P=EAczak    |
  13108.               | A1k2 z dodatkami E-mial: malafifi@friko.onet.pl |
  13109.               ---------------------------------------------------
  13110.  
  13111. From owner-amigapl  Fri Mar 13 02:43:20 1998
  13112. Received: from friko.onet.pl (friko.onet.pl [194.204.191.9]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id CAA04580 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 02:14:07 +0100 (MET)
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  13115.       id BAA32183 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 01:58:59 +0100
  13116. From: RHS Linux User <malafifi@friko.onet.pl>
  13117. Reply-To: malafifi@friko.onet.pl
  13118. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  13119. Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 01:56:29 +0100
  13120. Message-ID: <yam7376.1467.2016094256@priv.onet.pl>
  13121. In-Reply-To: <yam7374.446.21364296@kki.net.pl>
  13122. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  13123. Organization: SIEDZIBA =?iso-8859-2?Q?DIAB=A3A?=
  13124. Subject: Re: ScanDubler
  13125. MIME-Version: 1.0
  13126. X-ISO-CONVERTED: Yam_ISO2 1.03 (15.10.97) (c) Silver Dream !
  13127. X-YAMISO-UPDATE: ftp://wfmh.man.szczecin.pl/pub/yam_iso2/
  13128. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  13129. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  13130.  
  13131. 11-Mar-98, Pawel Golebiewski wysma=BFy=B3(a)
  13132. PG>>>boot menu (nawet fajne, pixele kwadratowe jak na  pc) wgra=B3 sie Wo=
  13133. rkbench
  13134. PG>>>i tu niespodzianka - szare ramki wok=F3=B3 WB. Pod=B3=B1czam monitor=
  13135.  do gniazda
  13136. RGB
  13137. PG>>Fakt! U moich trzech koleg=F3w r=F3wnie=BF s=B1 szare ramki.
  13138.  
  13139. PG>A jak to wyglada w trybach Multiscan, DoublePAL, ...
  13140. PG>Tez sa szare ramki ???
  13141. Wed=B3ug mnie blackborder to fajna rzec ;).Jak sobie otworze ekran
  13142. i ustawie kolor zerowy jako czarny,to po otwarciu
  13143. ekran raczej nie jest koloru czarnego, w por=F3wnaniu do tego z blackbord=
  13144. er.
  13145.  
  13146.  
  13147. -- =
  13148.  
  13149.               ---------------------------------------------------
  13150.               |     RHS Linux User znany jako Andrzej P=EAczak    |
  13151.               | A1k2 z dodatkami E-mial: malafifi@friko.onet.pl |
  13152.               ---------------------------------------------------
  13153.  
  13154. From owner-amigapl  Fri Mar 13 02:43:26 1998
  13155. Received: from friko.onet.pl (friko.onet.pl [194.204.191.9]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id CAA04582 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 02:14:09 +0100 (MET)
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  13158.       id BAA32187 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 01:59:01 +0100
  13159. From: RHS Linux User <malafifi@friko.onet.pl>
  13160. Reply-To: malafifi@friko.onet.pl
  13161. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  13162. Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 02:03:45 +0100
  13163. Message-ID: <yam7376.2294.2016094256@priv.onet.pl>
  13164. In-Reply-To: <19980311135252.50520@plukwa.pdi.net>
  13165. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  13166. Organization: SIEDZIBA =?iso-8859-2?Q?DIAB=A3A?=
  13167. Subject: Re: MountDos + CrossDos 7.0 ? fat 32
  13168. MIME-Version: 1.0
  13169. X-ISO-CONVERTED: Yam_ISO2 1.03 (15.10.97) (c) Silver Dream !
  13170. X-YAMISO-UPDATE: ftp://wfmh.man.szczecin.pl/pub/yam_iso2/
  13171. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  13172. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  13173.  
  13174. 11-Mar-98, Artur Pietruk wysma=BFy=B3(a)
  13175. AP>On Wed, Mar 11, 1998 at 10:10:40AM +0000, Dariusz Kleina wrote:
  13176. AP>> Czesc !!!
  13177. AP>> =
  13178.  
  13179. AP>> Pisze jeszcze raz na liste w zwiazku z tematem rzeka. Chodzi mi o =
  13180.  
  13181. AP>> "zobaczenie" dysku blaszakowego z Fatem 32. Na liscie przewinelo sie=
  13182.  =
  13183.  
  13184.  
  13185. AP>Nie mozna. To wynalazek zastosowany w Win95 OSR2. Dla pocieszenia
  13186. AP>dodam, ze na Pececie ten format jest rozpoznawany wylacznie przez Win9=
  13187. 5
  13188. AP>OSR2, tak wiec jak ktos przyjdzie z takim dyskiem do kolegi ktory nie =
  13189. ma
  13190. AP>osr2, to sobie nic z dysku nie odczyta :-)
  13191.  
  13192. Mam pytanie?Czy jest na pc inny fat ktory ma dlugie nazwy?
  13193. Bo je=B6li nie ma to w jaki ja spos=F3b odczyta=B3em taki dysk.
  13194. U=BFywa=B3em do tego oryginalnego crossdosa w po=B3aczeniu z mountdosem.
  13195.  
  13196. -- =
  13197.  
  13198.               ---------------------------------------------------
  13199.               |     RHS Linux User znany jako Andrzej P=EAczak    |
  13200.               | A1k2 z dodatkami E-mial: malafifi@friko.onet.pl |
  13201.               ---------------------------------------------------
  13202.  
  13203. From owner-amigapl  Fri Mar 13 10:13:19 1998
  13204. Received: from zeus.polsl.gliwice.pl (ololo@zeus.polsl.gliwice.pl [157.158.1.3]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA05119 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:01:33 +0100 (MET)
  13205. Received: from localhost (ololo@localhost) by zeus.polsl.gliwice.pl with SMTP (8.8.6/8.7.3) id JAA29574 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:59:07 +0100 (MET)
  13206. Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:59:07 +0100 (MET)
  13207. From: Aleksander Salwa <ololo@zeus.polsl.gliwice.pl>
  13208. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  13209. Subject: Re: Apollo 040
  13210. In-Reply-To: <yam7374.2274.1749494536@vena.telbank.pl>
  13211. Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.95.980313095722.26886C-100000@zeus.polsl.gliwice.pl>
  13212. MIME-Version: 1.0
  13213. Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
  13214. Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE
  13215.  
  13216.  
  13217. On Wed, 11 Mar 1998, Marek Szymanski wrote:
  13218.  
  13219. > Dn. 11-Mar-98, Aleksander Salwa wklepa=B3:
  13220. >=20
  13221. > Czy to konkurs Audiotele? ;-)
  13222. >=20
  13223. > Nie mam A1240, ale mo=BFe *CPU FASTROM*? (Sys:c)=20
  13224.  
  13225. =09To nie jest konkurs Audiotele, a w instrukcji
  13226. (ktorej przeciez nie masz) jest napisane ze CPU nie dziala.
  13227. I nie dziala.
  13228.  
  13229. =09=09Hej !
  13230.  
  13231. __________________________________________________________________________
  13232. Aleksander Salwa ----------------------------- ololo@zeus.polsl.gliwice.pl
  13233.  
  13234.  
  13235. From owner-amigapl  Fri Mar 13 10:43:14 1998
  13236. Received: from server.fiber.net.pl (server.fiber.net.pl [195.117.208.101]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA05222 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:39:19 +0100 (MET)
  13237. Received: from amiga.com.pl (pppb40.szczecin.tpnet.pl [195.205.239.40])
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  13239.           id AAA157 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>;
  13240.           Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:37:41 +0100
  13241. From: Miloslaw Smyk <thorgal@amiga.com.pl>
  13242. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  13243. Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 00:25:17 +0100
  13244. Message-ID: <yam7376.885.139253152@fiber.net.pl>
  13245. In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.3.95.980312080851.377A-100000@student.man.radom.pl>
  13246. X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 beta10 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
  13247. Organization: W.F.M.H.
  13248. Subject: Re: mUSASHI and AmigaOS
  13249. MIME-Version: 1.0
  13250. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  13251. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  13252.  
  13253. Dnia 12-Mar-98, Kudla Michal rzek=B3 co nast=EApuje:
  13254. > Wprowadzenie:
  13255. > ACS 1/98 s. 25 =
  13256.  
  13257. > "mUSASHI:Ot=F3rz...Sama Amiga ma CHORY system operacyjny (w por=F3wnani=
  13258. u do
  13259. > innych)"
  13260.  
  13261. To by by=B3o na tyle a propos "wy=B6mienitych koder=F3w". ;->
  13262.  
  13263. Czuwaj,
  13264. Mi=B3ek
  13265. -- =
  13266.  
  13267. mailto:thorgal@amiga.com.pl   |  "Man in the Moon and other weird things"=
  13268.  -
  13269. http://wfmh.org.pl/~thorgal/  |  see it at http://wfmh.org.pl/~thorgal/Mo=
  13270. on/
  13271.  
  13272. From owner-amigapl  Fri Mar 13 10:43:21 1998
  13273. Received: from student.man.radom.pl (student.man.radom.pl [194.181.239.26]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA05233 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:40:29 +0100 (MET)
  13274. Received: from localhost (miko@localhost)
  13275.     by student.man.radom.pl (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA01254
  13276.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:36:52 +0100
  13277. Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:36:51 +0100 (MET)
  13278. From: Kudla Michal <miko@student.man.radom.pl>
  13279. To: amigapl@amiga.com.pl
  13280. Subject: PPC do A1200
  13281. Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.980313103520.1115B-100000@student.man.radom.pl>
  13282. MIME-Version: 1.0
  13283. Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
  13284.  
  13285. W sobote 14 Mar 1998 na gieldzie w Wawie ma byc premiera
  13286. PPC dla A1200. Podobno.
  13287. -MiKO
  13288.  
  13289.  
  13290. From owner-amigapl  Fri Mar 13 10:43:28 1998
  13291. Received: from zeus.polsl.gliwice.pl (ololo@zeus.polsl.gliwice.pl [157.158.1.3]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA05186 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:22:38 +0100 (MET)
  13292. Received: from localhost (ololo@localhost) by zeus.polsl.gliwice.pl with SMTP (8.8.6/8.7.3) id KAA05458 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:20:21 +0100 (MET)
  13293. Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:20:20 +0100 (MET)
  13294. From: Aleksander Salwa <ololo@zeus.polsl.gliwice.pl>
  13295. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  13296. Subject: Re: Apollo 040
  13297. In-Reply-To: <yam7375.1067.137652904@lubusz.zeto-zg.perytnet.pl>
  13298. Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.95.980313101837.4856A-100000@zeus.polsl.gliwice.pl>
  13299. MIME-Version: 1.0
  13300. Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
  13301.  
  13302.     EUREKA !!!
  13303.         Poszukiwany program jest na Aminecie
  13304. w katalogu util/misc (FastROM), zamiast w cli/boot, jak wiekszosc
  13305. tego typu programow.
  13306.  
  13307. __________________________________________________________________________
  13308. Aleksander Salwa ----------------------------- ololo@zeus.polsl.gliwice.pl
  13309.  
  13310. From owner-amigapl  Fri Mar 13 10:43:35 1998
  13311. Received: from student.man.radom.pl (student.man.radom.pl [194.181.239.26]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA05220 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:39:02 +0100 (MET)
  13312. Received: from localhost (miko@localhost)
  13313.     by student.man.radom.pl (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA01234
  13314.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:35:13 +0100
  13315. Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:35:12 +0100 (MET)
  13316. From: Kudla Michal <miko@student.man.radom.pl>
  13317. To: amigapl@amiga.com.pl
  13318. Subject: Re: DEV stos
  13319. Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.980313102759.1115A-100000@student.man.radom.pl>
  13320. MIME-Version: 1.0
  13321. Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
  13322.  
  13323. On Thu 12 Mar 1998 Kamil Iskra wrote:
  13324. >Poczekaj na EGCS
  13325.  
  13326. Co to jest?
  13327.  
  13328. From owner-amigapl  Fri Mar 13 11:13:14 1998
  13329. Received: from mx1.polbox.com (root@mx1.polbox.com [195.116.5.16]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA05273 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:50:03 +0100 (MET)
  13330. Received: from sweet.tnet.pl (juha@sweet.tnet.pl [195.116.45.4])
  13331.     by mx1.polbox.com (8.8.8/rev-A0) with SMTP id KAA11111
  13332.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:50:53 +0100
  13333. Message-ID: <35090245.11C5@polbox.com>
  13334. Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:54:13 +0100
  13335. From: Juha <juha@polbox.com>
  13336. Reply-To: juha@polbox.com
  13337. Organization: AmigaTeam
  13338. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I)
  13339. MIME-Version: 1.0
  13340. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  13341. Subject: Re: MIDI
  13342. References: <yam5358.1610.30474192@195.116.9.70>
  13343. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
  13344. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
  13345.  
  13346. Darek Gora wrote:
  13347. > 
  13348. > Czesc
  13349. > 
  13350. > Ostatnio poproszono mnie abym przerobil pliki midi z formatu MUSIC-X 1.0 na
  13351. > normalne midi.
  13352. > Uruchomilem znane mi programy lecz zaden z nich nie czytal tego formatu.
  13353. > Poszukuje probramu ktorym mozna przerobic te pliki na .MID (dzwieki pozniej
  13354.  
  13355. O ile dobrze pamietam to do programu MusicX 2.0 jest dolaczony program
  13356. ktory przerabia pliki z formatu MusicX'a na format MIDI.
  13357. -- 
  13358.            ____
  13359.    +------/ / /-------------------------------+------------------------+
  13360.    |  _ _/ / /      Marek Pialucha "Juha"     | Member of "Amiga Team" |
  13361.    |-\ \ \/ /---------------------------------+------------------------|
  13362.    |  \_\_\/   A1200/030/50 Mhz, 20MB, 1.6 GB |    juha@polbox.com     |
  13363.    +------------------------------------------+------------------------+
  13364.  
  13365. ----- [ REKLAMA / ADVERTISEMENT ] ------------------------
  13366.  
  13367. Zostan Autoryzowanym Partnerem Polbox On-Line Service!
  13368. Szczegoly:  http://www.polbox.pl/98partner.html
  13369.  
  13370. ----------------------------------------------------------
  13371.  
  13372. From owner-amigapl  Fri Mar 13 11:13:25 1998
  13373. Received: from student.man.radom.pl (student.man.radom.pl [194.181.239.26]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA05280 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:53:46 +0100 (MET)
  13374. Received: from localhost (miko@localhost)
  13375.     by student.man.radom.pl (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA01335
  13376.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:49:51 +0100
  13377. Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:49:50 +0100 (MET)
  13378. From: Kudla Michal <miko@student.man.radom.pl>
  13379. To: amigapl@amiga.com.pl
  13380. Subject: Re: Musashi and AmigaOS
  13381. Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.980313103900.1115C-100000@student.man.radom.pl>
  13382. MIME-Version: 1.0
  13383. Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
  13384.  
  13385.  
  13386. Znowu musze przepraszac! Wiec to robie. PRZEPRASZAM. Scena Amigowa jest
  13387. wielka i niech taka pozostanie. Dobrze byloby aby nowi zapalency w
  13388. programowaniu (nie kodowaniu) nie spotykali sie z takimi opiniami.
  13389. - MiKO
  13390.  
  13391. From owner-amigapl  Fri Mar 13 12:13:19 1998
  13392. Received: from friko.onet.pl (friko.onet.pl [194.204.191.9]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA05436 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:52:10 +0100 (MET)
  13393. Received: from friko.onet.pl (ppp13.zgora.tpnet.pl [195.116.244.13])
  13394.           by friko.onet.pl (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP
  13395.       id LAA12295 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:36:25 +0100
  13396. From: Irek <irekm@kki.net.pl>
  13397. Reply-To: Irek <irekm@kki.net.pl>
  13398. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  13399. Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 12:31:18 -0500
  13400. Message-ID: <yam7376.932.2690568@kki.net.pl>
  13401. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.3a [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  13402. Subject: Re: Do Admina
  13403. MIME-Version: 1.0
  13404. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  13405. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  13406.  
  13407. Dnia 12-Mar-98, Blazej Zagozda napisa=EE:
  13408. >Dnia 10-Mar-98, Adam Zaparcinski napisa=EE:
  13409.  
  13410. >A co ja mam na to powiedziec jak mam przedpotopowy modem o kosmicznej wr=
  13411. ecz
  13412. >predkosci 2400bps ??? Postawcie sie w mojej sytuacji... =
  13413.  
  13414. >Chociaz  profilaktycznym  rozwiazaniem  jest  ustawienie  w  Yamie  funk=
  13415. cji
  13416. >sprawdzania  dlugosci listow do np. max ok 10kb... i pomijanie dluzszych=
  13417. =2E
  13418. >Chyba jeszcze nikogo nie napadlo natchnienie, zeby wysmazyc tekst 600kb =
  13419. :) =
  13420.  
  13421.  
  13422. Ja mam za to inny pomys=B3: proponuj=EA =BFeby listy z attachment'em d=B3=
  13423. u=BFszym
  13424. ni=BF np. 3 kB, powinny by=E6 nie rozsy=B3ane na list=EA ale zwracane do =
  13425. jego
  13426. adresata z odpowiednim komunikatem...
  13427. Je=BFeli natomiast b=EAdzie to jaki=B6 "wi=EAkszy" attachment to mo=BFna =
  13428. go odes=B3a=E6
  13429. adresatowi np. 20 razy :)) (my=B6l=EA, =BFe wi=EAcej razy ju=BF tego nie =
  13430. zrobi,a
  13431. ludzie nie b=EAd=B1 mu s=B3ali jaki=B6 d=B3ugich, "nawracaj=B1cych" na od=
  13432. powiedni=B1
  13433. drog=EA list=F3w :))
  13434.  
  13435. Hej!
  13436.  
  13437. ps. Mnie troch=EA te=BF szlag trafi=B3...
  13438.  
  13439. -- =
  13440.  
  13441. e-mail: irekm@friko.onet.pl      __
  13442. e-mail: irekm@kki.net.pl        // \   HTTP: on prepare
  13443. *Easy work?   - on Amiga*         \__          A1k2+850MB+4MB+CDx8+28800
  13444. *Best system? - on Amiga*            \
  13445. *BIG TROUBLE? - on PC...*         \_// NOWMAN - Amiga Fan 4ever !
  13446.  
  13447. From owner-amigapl  Fri Mar 13 12:13:26 1998
  13448. Received: from rose.man.poznan.pl (root@rose.man.poznan.pl [150.254.173.3]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA05426 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:49:37 +0100 (MET)
  13449. Received: from buteo.man.bialystok.pl (buteo.man.bialystok.pl [194.181.132.1])
  13450.     by rose.man.poznan.pl (8.8.5/8.8.5/bspm1.13+rchk1.20) with SMTP id LAA04580;
  13451.     Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:42:43 +0100 (MET)
  13452. Received: from cksr.ac.bialystok.pl  by buteo.man.bialystok.pl  (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4)
  13453.     id LAA12079; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:38:46 +0100
  13454. Received: from localhost by cksr.ac.bialystok.pl  (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4)
  13455.     id LAA12136; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:38:49 +0100
  13456. Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:38:49 +0100 (MET)
  13457. From: "Marcin Juszkiewicz (Szczepan/BlaBla)" <szczepan@cksr.ac.bialystok.pl>
  13458. X-Sender: szczepan@cksr
  13459. To: "(Sub)BlaBla members -- Dariusz Garbowski" <thufor@ZEUS.POLSL.GLIWICE.PL>,
  13460.         Grzegorz Kraszewski <krashan@cksr.ac.bialystok.pl>,
  13461.         Tomasz Kaczanowski <kaczus@lodz2.p.lodz.pl>,
  13462.         Karol Bryd <kbryd@kki.net.pl>,
  13463.         Kordian Adamczyk <kordi@lodz2.p.lodz.pl>,
  13464.         Krzysztof Habowski <kysy@mvax.pwr.wroc.pl>,
  13465.         Lukasz Prokulski <lemi@mops.uci.agh.edu.pl>,
  13466.         "Piotr Hoppe (Bruner/SubBlaBla)" <lostoczlu@waw.ids.edu.pl>,
  13467.         Szymon Pura <szymp@friko.onet.pl>, X-Pert/SubBlaBla <xpert@kki.net.pl>,
  13468.         Lista dyskusyjna uzytkownikow komputerow AMIGA <AMIGA@plearn.edu.pl>,
  13469.         AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  13470. Subject: DEV: Sound.datatype
  13471. Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.96.980313113527.11997B-100000@cksr>
  13472. MIME-Version: 1.0
  13473. Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
  13474.  
  13475.  
  13476.  Hi !
  13477.  
  13478.   Pisze sobie sample playerka uzywajacego datatypow. Musze zmienic
  13479. poczatek danych sampla wiec robie to tak (AmigaE) :
  13480.  
  13481. -> laduje sampla
  13482.  
  13483.   IF sobj THEN DisposeDTObject(sobj)
  13484.   (sobj:=NewDTObjectA(filename,[DTA_SOURCETYPE,DTST_FILE,
  13485.                                 DTA_GROUPID,GID_SOUND,
  13486.                                 SDTA_VOLUME,64,
  13487.                                 SDTA_CYCLES,1,
  13488.                                 NIL]))
  13489.  
  13490.  
  13491. -> chce zmienic adres poczatku danych sampla
  13492. -> to nie dziala
  13493.  
  13494.   GetDTAttrsA(sobj,[SDTA_SAMPLE,{temp},NIL])
  13495.   SetDTAttrsA(sobj,NIL,NIL,[SDTA_SAMPLE,temp + start,NIL])
  13496.  
  13497. -> zmiana konca danych dziala
  13498.  
  13499.   SetDTAttrsA(sobj,NIL,NIL,[SDTA_SAMPLELENGTH,end - start,NIL])
  13500.  
  13501. -> play
  13502.  
  13503.   IF sobj
  13504.     dt_timerequest::io.command:=TR_ADDREQUEST
  13505.     SendIO(dt_timerequest)
  13506.     DoDTMethodA(sobj,0,0,[DTM_TRIGGER,0,STM_PLAY,0])
  13507.     Wait(SIGBREAKF_CTRL_C OR Shl(1,dt_timeport::mp.sigbit))
  13508.     WaitIO(dt_timerequest)
  13509.   ENDIF
  13510.  
  13511. Czy ktos moze podeslac mi przyklady uzywania sound.datatypeclass w AmigaE
  13512. llub w C ? Bede dzwieczny...
  13513.  
  13514. ------
  13515.  Marcin Juszkiewicz (Szczepan/BlaBla)   *Team Amiga*
  13516.  szczepan@cksr.ac.bialystok.pl  http://cksr.ac.bialystok.pl/szczepan/
  13517.  A1200 BlizzIv 2+8MB RAM 425MB HDD
  13518.  Author of MultiView for OS 2.0+ -> Aminet:util/sys/2b_mv_os2_x.lha
  13519.  
  13520. From owner-amigapl  Fri Mar 13 12:43:22 1998
  13521. Received: from arcadia.tuniv.szczecin.pl (arcadia.tuniv.szczecin.pl [193.59.117.18]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA05516 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 12:34:21 +0100 (MET)
  13522. Received: from s215.inter.tuniv.szczecin.pl (s215.inter.tuniv.szczecin.pl [193.59.117.215])
  13523.     by arcadia.tuniv.szczecin.pl (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id MAA06999
  13524.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 12:29:27 +0100
  13525. X-Authentication-Warning: arcadia.tuniv.szczecin.pl: s215.inter.tuniv.szczecin.pl [193.59.117.215] didn't use HELO protocol
  13526. Message-ID: <35091951.2F6E@arcadia.tuniv.szczecin.pl>
  13527. Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 12:32:33 +0100
  13528. From: Michal Bujak <takeoff@arcadia.tuniv.szczecin.pl>
  13529. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I)
  13530. MIME-Version: 1.0
  13531. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  13532. Subject: Re: CrossDos7.0
  13533. References: <yam7374.2195.21364296@kki.net.pl>
  13534. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
  13535. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
  13536.  
  13537. Pawel Golebiewski wrote:
  13538. > 
  13539. > Dnia 09-Mar-98, Janusz Golicz napisaî:
  13540. > >Baw sie dobrze.
  13541. > 
  13542. > Bardzo dziekuje. Mam nadzieje ze obywatel JG
  13543. > nie jest juz na liscie. Od dwoch dni probowalem
  13544. > to sciagnac, a czekalem na waznego maila !
  13545. > Serwer KKI zrywal mi za kazdym razem.
  13546. > Gdyby nie pomoc od Oplaaa jeszcz bym to ciagnal.
  13547. > Bardzo bym prosil Admina o jakis filtr na binaria.
  13548. > A moze wyslac mu widokowke mojego miasta
  13549. > w 1200 dpi i podziekowac mu osobiscie ?
  13550. > A moze wszyscy bysmy tak zrobili ???
  13551. Niestety...
  13552. Gosc moze zalozyc sobie filter na poczte powyzej X kB :(
  13553.  
  13554. -- 
  13555. Mozilla ;) 10-17     mailto:mailto:takeoff@arcadia.tuniv.szczecin.pl
  13556. Yam 2.0    19-24     mailto:takeoff@friko.onet.pl
  13557. From owner-amigapl  Fri Mar 13 13:43:23 1998
  13558. Received: from info.cyf-kr.edu.pl (info.cyf-kr.edu.pl [149.156.4.11]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA05682 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:29:07 +0100 (MET)
  13559. Received: from kinga.cyf-kr.edu.pl (0@kinga.cyf-kr.edu.pl [149.156.2.32])
  13560.     by info.cyf-kr.edu.pl (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA01343;
  13561.     Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:25:16 +0100 (MET)
  13562. Received: from stacja3 (d-59-13.cyfronet.krakow.pl [149.156.1.200])
  13563.     by kinga.cyf-kr.edu.pl (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA08999;
  13564.     Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:25:12 +0100 (MET)
  13565. Message-Id: <199803131225.NAA08999@kinga.cyf-kr.edu.pl>
  13566. From: "Wojtek Jaworski" <mxjawors@cyf-kr.edu.pl>
  13567. To: "amigapl-PLEARN" <AMIGA@PLEARN.EDU.PL>,
  13568.         "AmigaPL - WFMH" <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  13569. Subject: Sprzedam
  13570. Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:25:15 +0100
  13571. MIME-Version: 1.0
  13572. Content-Type: text/plain;
  13573.     charset="iso-8859-2"
  13574. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  13575. X-Priority: 3
  13576. X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
  13577. X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1008.3
  13578. X-MimeOle: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE Engine V4.71.1008.3
  13579.  
  13580.  Interfejs klawiatury made by ELBOX za 50 zl na gwarancji.
  13581. Pozdrawiam=20
  13582. Wojtek
  13583. ------------------------------
  13584. mailto: mxjawors@cyfronet.krakow.pl
  13585.  
  13586.  
  13587. From owner-amigapl  Fri Mar 13 15:43:14 1998
  13588. Received: from gryzmak.lodz.pdi.net (gryzmak.lodz.pdi.net [195.116.162.1]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA06069 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:19:02 +0100 (MET)
  13589. Received: (from arturp@localhost)
  13590.     by gryzmak.lodz.pdi.net (8.8.7/2.1.1/L) id PAA15673;
  13591.     Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:16:09 +0100
  13592. Message-ID: <19980313151609.14740@plukwa.pdi.net>
  13593. Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:16:09 +0100
  13594. From: Artur Pietruk <arturp@plukwa.pdi.net>
  13595. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  13596. Subject: Re: DEV stos
  13597. References: <Pine.LNX.3.95.980313102759.1115A-100000@student.man.radom.pl>
  13598. Mime-Version: 1.0
  13599. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
  13600. X-Mailer: Mutt 0.83
  13601. In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.3.95.980313102759.1115A-100000@student.man.radom.pl>; from Kudla Michal on Fri, Mar 13, 1998 at 10:35:12AM +0100
  13602.  
  13603. On Fri, Mar 13, 1998 at 10:35:12AM +0100, Kudla Michal wrote:
  13604. > On Thu 12 Mar 1998 Kamil Iskra wrote:
  13605. > >Poczekaj na EGCS
  13606. > 
  13607. > Co to jest?
  13608.  
  13609.     Ja moze nie powinienem sie wypowiadac :-)), ale jest to
  13610. alternatywa dla GCC. Z tego co wiem Kamil wlasnie pracuje nad
  13611. przeportowaniem EGCS do GeekGadgets.
  13612.  
  13613.     Pozdrawia:
  13614.  
  13615. --- Artur Pietruk
  13616.  
  13617. From owner-amigapl  Fri Mar 13 15:43:22 1998
  13618. Received: from gryzmak.lodz.pdi.net (gryzmak.lodz.pdi.net [195.116.162.1]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA06104 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:26:57 +0100 (MET)
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  13621.     Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:23:59 +0100
  13622. Message-ID: <19980313152358.01292@plukwa.pdi.net>
  13623. Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:23:58 +0100
  13624. From: Artur Pietruk <arturp@plukwa.pdi.net>
  13625. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  13626. Subject: Re: Do Admina
  13627. References: <yam7376.932.2690568@kki.net.pl>
  13628. Mime-Version: 1.0
  13629. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
  13630. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
  13631. X-Mailer: Mutt 0.83
  13632. In-Reply-To: <yam7376.932.2690568@kki.net.pl>; from Irek on Fri, Mar 13, 1998 at 12:31:18PM -0500
  13633.  
  13634. On Fri, Mar 13, 1998 at 12:31:18PM -0500, Irek wrote:
  13635. > Ja mam za to inny pomys³: proponujê ¿eby listy z attachment'em d³u¿szym
  13636. > ni¿ np. 3 kB, powinny byæ nie rozsy³ane na listê ale zwracane do jego
  13637.  
  13638.     Bez przesady... A w attachu moze byc tez tekst (np. ciekawy
  13639. artykul dolaczony do maila na zyczenie listowiczow).
  13640.  
  13641. > Je¿eli natomiast bêdzie to jaki¶ "wiêkszy" attachment to mo¿na go odes³aæ
  13642. > adresatowi np. 20 razy :)) (my¶lê, ¿e wiêcej razy ju¿ tego nie zrobi,a
  13643. > ludzie nie bêd± mu s³ali jaki¶ d³ugich, "nawracaj±cych" na odpowiedni±
  13644. > drogê listów :))
  13645.  
  13646.     Hmm... To przeciez chyba nie chodzi o to zeby wprowadzic terror i
  13647. gilotyny. To czy na liste sa slane binaria zalezy od kultury(??) 
  13648. wysylajacych. Po za tym wg. mnie ten ktory wysyla komus w odpowiedzi na
  13649. 600kb smiecia 20 razy tyle chyba wcale nie jest od niego lepszy.
  13650.  
  13651.     Pozdrawia:
  13652.  
  13653. --- Artur Pietruk
  13654. From owner-amigapl  Fri Mar 13 15:43:29 1998
  13655. Received: from box43.gnet.pl (box43.gnet.pl [195.117.182.3]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA06139 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:42:06 +0100 (MET)
  13656. Received: from [194.204.139.71] (ppp71.bydgoszcz.tpnet.pl [194.204.139.71])
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  13658.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:39:43 +0100 (CET)
  13659. Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:39:43 +0100 (CET)
  13660. Message-Id: <l03110700b12ee66addd8@[194.204.139.73]>
  13661. In-Reply-To: <yam7374.1120.120295680@priv.onet.pl>
  13662. Mime-Version: 1.0
  13663. Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
  13664. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  13665. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  13666. From: Marek Telecki <telly@box43.gnet.pl>
  13667. Subject: AVId i Savage - rejestracje
  13668.  
  13669. Witam!
  13670.  
  13671.     Kolejny raz przypominam, ze w ofercie AIRI znajduja sie dwa
  13672. rewelacyjne programy autorstwa Wegra Laszlo Toroka, a mianowicie:
  13673.  
  13674.  - Savage - bardzo szybki zewnetrzny sterownik graficzny do ShapeShiftera
  13675.  
  13676.  - AVId - najszybszy player filmow .avi jaki to tej pory napotkalem
  13677.  
  13678.     Ceny rejestracyje w/w programow wynosza odpowiednio: 20 DM (Savage)
  13679. i 15 DM (AVId), ale dla Amigowcow z Polski (!!!) autor  specjalna SUPER
  13680. NISKA cene!:
  13681.  
  13682. Rejestracja kosztuje Cie TYLKO 5 DM za program + koszty przesylki, a przy
  13683. rejestrowaniu obu programow placisz tylko 8 DM! + koszty przesylki!
  13684.  
  13685. Tak wiec cena w zlotowkach wynosi:
  13686. 12 zl za rejestracje 1 programu,
  13687. 18 z=BD za rejestracje 2 programow!
  13688.  
  13689. Powyzsze programy w wersjach demonstracyjnych sa dostepne na Aminecie. A
  13690. wkrotce  ich opisy ukaza sie na stronie AIRI.
  13691.  
  13692. Wszystkich zainteresowanych prosze o kontakt na adres:
  13693.  
  13694.             telly@box43.gnet.pl
  13695.  
  13696. Rejestracja gwarantuje bezplatne upgrade'y do nowszych wersji :-)
  13697.  
  13698. Procedura rejestracji:
  13699.  1. wysylasz do mnie mailem twoje dane: adres, telefon, email, wiek, konfig
  13700. sprzetu i tym podobne informacje (bez zbyt osobistych :-)))
  13701.  2. Wysylasz przekazem pienieznym na moj adres kwote 12 lub 18,- (zlotych
  13702. polskich) - w zaleznosci od ilosci zamawianych programow,
  13703.  3. Po zebraniu 5-10 chetnych przesylam kase i dane zainteresowanych do Lasz=
  13704. lo
  13705.  3. Czekasz cierpliwie na mail od Laszlo z programami w attachmencie.
  13706.  
  13707.     W przypadku zmiany adresu lub tymczasowej przerwie w dostepie do
  13708. sieci prosze mnie niezwlocznie powiadomic.
  13709.  
  13710.     Oto aktualna lista osob zainteresowanych rejestracja Savage'a i AVId'a:
  13711.  
  13712. 1. Andrzej Gorny <agorny@dns.herbial.pl>             Savage, AVId
  13713. 2. Robert Witkowicz <abrasax@student.uci.agh.edu.pl> Savage, AVId
  13714. 3. Norbert Pietraszek <jigit2@friko2.onet.pl>        AVId
  13715. 4. At0m <at0m@friko.onet.pl>                         AVId
  13716. 5. Adam Mateja <matejaa@gss.abis.lodz.pl>            AVId
  13717. 6. Mariusz Porebski <bestia@ds14.agh.edu.pl>         Savage, AVId
  13718. 7. Szymon Matuszewski                                AVId
  13719. 8. Ariusz Nowak <ariusz@tk.net.pl>                   Savage, AVId
  13720. 9. oraz ja Marek Telecki                             Savage, AVId
  13721.  
  13722.     Prosze wszystkich o dopelnienie wszelkich w/w formalnosci, a
  13723. przyspieszy to i usprawni procedure rejestracji.
  13724.  
  13725. Moj adres:    Marek Telecki
  13726.               Gdanska 226/6
  13727.               85-674 Bydgoszcz
  13728.               tel. 052 372-13-16 (po 18-ej)
  13729.  
  13730.     To na razie tyle, czekam na kolejne zgloszenia i pozdrawiam
  13731. wszystkich:)
  13732. Nara
  13733.  
  13734. PS. SAURON ! Moje listy do Ciebie nie dochadza na zaden adres, what's up?
  13735.  
  13736.  Marek Telecki / FST / S.O.S. Team *AMIGA*
  13737.    A1240T@40/34MB/CV3D/Z2/M1438/3GB/CD8x
  13738. -=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D=
  13739. -=3D-=3D-
  13740.    mailto: telly@box43.gnet.pl
  13741.            sos@vena.telbank.pl
  13742.  
  13743.  
  13744.  
  13745.  
  13746. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  13747.    Dostep do internetu 56 Kbps Flex / 64 Kbps ISDN http://www.getin.pl
  13748.        Darmowe konta pocztowe w sieci GETIN. http://box43.gnet.pl
  13749.            GETIN Internet Service Provider http://www.gnet.pl
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  13751.  
  13752.  
  13753. From owner-amigapl  Fri Mar 13 15:43:35 1998
  13754. Received: from szermierz.uni.wroc.pl ([156.17.93.253]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA06118 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:31:26 +0100 (MET)
  13755. Received: from szermierz.uni.wroc.pl by szermierz.uni.wroc.pl via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO)
  13756.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl> id OAA06156; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:27:37 +0100
  13757. From: rusty <rusty@szermierz.uni.wroc.pl>
  13758. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  13759. Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:28:57 +0100
  13760. Message-ID: <yam7376.2899.2015758928@szermierz.uni.wroc.pl>
  13761. In-Reply-To: <yam7375.871.123588816@mail.union.org.pl>
  13762. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  13763. Organization: Rusty Technology
  13764. Subject: Re[2]: mUSASHI and AmigaOS
  13765. MIME-Version: 1.0
  13766. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
  13767. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  13768.  
  13769. Hi,
  13770.  
  13771. On 12-Mar-98, Artur Muszynski wrote:
  13772. > On 12-Mar-98, Kudla Michal wrote:
  13773. >> Wprowadzenie:
  13774. >> ACS 1/98 s. 25 =
  13775.  
  13776. >> "mUSASHI:Ot=F3rz...Sama Amiga ma CHORY system operacyjny (w por=F3wnan=
  13777. iu do
  13778. >> innych)"
  13779. > =
  13780.  
  13781. >> Mo=FBna to traktowa=EB jako obraza. Ja uwa=FBam, =FBe powinno=F4ci=E2 =
  13782. redaktora
  13783. >> (Macieja Matyki) by=EEo kontynuowa=EB ten temat. Lecz jego chyba zatka=
  13784. =EEo. Mnie
  13785. >> zatka=EEo. Mo=FBe kto=F4 z czytaj=E2cych zna tego filozofa i spyta si=EB=
  13786.  go o co mu
  13787. >> chodzi=EEo? Ja bynajmniej chia=EEbym wiedzie=EB w czym AmigaOS
  13788. >> (multitasting) odstaje od innych i jakich? Oczywi=F4cie same konkrety.=
  13789.  
  13790. > =
  13791.  
  13792. > NIE ZNASZ MUSASHIEGO??? Gdzie=F4 ty si=EB uchowa=EE :-) Pokr=F3tce: Mus=
  13793. ashi urodzi=EE
  13794. > si=EB, uko=EFczy=EE itd :-) w ka=FBdym razie jest jednym z najlepszych =
  13795. koder=F3w na
  13796. > Amig=EB i w og=F3le bardzo dobrym programist=E2 (o ile ma sens takie
  13797. > rozgraniczenie). Do programowania na Amidze u=FBywa(=EE) w 100% assembl=
  13798. era,
  13799. > dlatego jego spojrzenie na AmigaOS jest troch=EB spaczone :-) Znaj=E2c =
  13800. za=F4 jego
  13801. > dzie=EEa (raczej Dzie=EEa) wybaczy=EEby=F4 mu jego brak zrozumienia wie=
  13802. lko=F4ci
  13803. > AmigaOSu, a na pewno nie pisa=EE jego (Jego) ksywki z ma=EEej litery :-=
  13804. /
  13805. > =
  13806.  
  13807.  
  13808. Podobnie jak Musashiego spojrzenie na AmigaOS jest troch=EB spaczone, tak=
  13809.  
  13810. spojrzenie kolegi Micha=EEa na Musashiego mo=FBe by=EA troch=EB spaczone.=
  13811.  
  13812. A mo=FBe kolega Artur ma nieco spaczone spojrzenie na ca=EEo=F4=EA? ;-)
  13813.  
  13814. W tonie odpowiedzi Artura proponuj=EB pisa=EA o Musashim per Programista,=
  13815.  a mo=FBe
  13816. nawet Filozof - zwa=FBywszy na deklaracje filozoficzne Programisty...... =
  13817.  =
  13818.  
  13819. (zawarte w omawianym wywiadzie z ACS 1/98).
  13820.  
  13821. Tomasz Michaluk
  13822. qrdl
  13823.  
  13824. From owner-amigapl  Fri Mar 13 15:43:42 1998
  13825. Received: from www.kki.net.pl (www.kki.net.pl [195.116.9.70]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA06109 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:27:40 +0100 (MET)
  13826. Received: from WspSpolem (rmod14.kielce.mtl.pl [195.117.92.46])
  13827.     by www.kki.net.pl (8.8.7/8.8.7.ver6) with ESMTP id PAA04319
  13828.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:25:58 +0100
  13829. Message-Id: <199803131425.PAA04319@www.kki.net.pl>
  13830. From: "Marcin Soko³owski" <600user@kki.net.pl>
  13831. To: "AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi" <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  13832. Subject: Odp: Apollo i 16MB SIMM
  13833. Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:18:41 +0100
  13834. X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
  13835. X-Priority: 3
  13836. X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161
  13837. MIME-Version: 1.0
  13838. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
  13839. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  13840.  
  13841. >Przeciez w instrukcji do karty (po polsku !) jest wyraznie napisane,
  13842. >ze do Apollo stosuje sie moduly typu FPM (Fast Page Mode).
  13843. >U mnie EDO tez nie chcialo chodzic. Wlozylem FPM-a i jest OK.
  13844.  
  13845. U mnie pami=EB=EA (FPM) chodzi bez problemu, ale w polskiej instrukcji
  13846. (rev 1.4) stoi jak w=F3=EE, =FBe karta =EEyknie tak=FBe modu=EEy EDO. No =
  13847. wi=EBc jak
  13848. to jest?
  13849.  
  13850. ---------------
  13851.  
  13852. IMHO zalezy to od rodzaju SIMMa EDO. Sa one jedno- i dwubankowe, a mozna =
  13853. je poznac po tym, ze ktorastam sciezka jest podpieta albo nie (nie =
  13854. pamietam akurat, ktora - moze ktos na liscie wie dokladnie - chyba nawet =
  13855. ostatnio ktos puszczal na liste taki mail).
  13856. Jesli jest jednobankowy, to OK - chyba pojdzie na Apollo (o czym pisze =
  13857. instrukcja), jesli dwubankowy - trzeba szukac dalej. A w sklepach nie =
  13858. powiedza, czy pamiec jest jest taka, czy taka - niestety..nie wszyscy =
  13859. musza sie od razu urodzic elektronikami i informatykami :)
  13860.  
  13861. 100 % pozdrowien !
  13862. ----------------------
  13863. Marcin "XMS" Soko=B3owski Amiga FAN ForEver
  13864. http://www.complex.com.pl/~zbylu/xms/xms001.html
  13865. 600user@kki.net.pl
  13866. From owner-amigapl  Fri Mar 13 15:43:49 1998
  13867. Received: from gryzmak.lodz.pdi.net (gryzmak.lodz.pdi.net [195.116.162.1]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA06063 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:16:56 +0100 (MET)
  13868. Received: (from arturp@localhost)
  13869.     by gryzmak.lodz.pdi.net (8.8.7/2.1.1/L) id PAA15495;
  13870.     Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:14:03 +0100
  13871. Message-ID: <19980313151403.43168@plukwa.pdi.net>
  13872. Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:14:03 +0100
  13873. From: Artur Pietruk <arturp@plukwa.pdi.net>
  13874. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  13875. Subject: Re: MountDos + CrossDos 7.0 ? fat 32
  13876. References: <19980311135252.50520@plukwa.pdi.net> <yam7376.2294.2016094256@priv.onet.pl>
  13877. Mime-Version: 1.0
  13878. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
  13879. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
  13880. X-Mailer: Mutt 0.83
  13881. In-Reply-To: <yam7376.2294.2016094256@priv.onet.pl>; from RHS Linux User on Fri, Mar 13, 1998 at 02:03:45AM +0100
  13882.  
  13883. On Fri, Mar 13, 1998 at 02:03:45AM +0100, RHS Linux User wrote:
  13884. > AP>> Pisze jeszcze raz na liste w zwiazku z tematem rzeka. Chodzi mi o 
  13885. > AP>> "zobaczenie" dysku blaszakowego z Fatem 32. Na liscie przewinelo sie 
  13886. > AP>Nie mozna. To wynalazek zastosowany w Win95 OSR2. Dla pocieszenia
  13887. > AP>dodam, ze na Pececie ten format jest rozpoznawany wylacznie przez Win95
  13888. > AP>OSR2, tak wiec jak ktos przyjdzie z takim dyskiem do kolegi ktory nie ma
  13889. > AP>osr2, to sobie nic z dysku nie odczyta :-)
  13890. > 
  13891. > Mam pytanie?Czy jest na pc inny fat ktory ma dlugie nazwy?
  13892. > Bo je¶li nie ma to w jaki ja sposób odczyta³em taki dysk.
  13893. > U¿ywa³em do tego oryginalnego crossdosa w po³aczeniu z mountdosem.
  13894.  
  13895.     Mylisz dlugie nazwy z "nowym, ulepszonym filesystemem" made by M$.
  13896. Zreszta juz kolega wyjasnil, ze czesc ludkow pomylila problemy - jemu tez
  13897. nie chodzilo o dlugie nazwy, tylko Fat32.
  13898.  
  13899. -- 
  13900. -------------------------------------------------------------------
  13901. - Who  : Artur Pietruk - WebMaster @ PDi - www.pdi.net -      /// -
  13902. - Email: arturp@pdi.net IRC: APair TEL: +48 44 7140906 -     ///  -
  13903. - Snail: ul.11 listopada 33a/19 97-140 Koluszki POLAND - \\\///   -
  13904. - Using: AMIGA 4000/40 CV64-3D, A1240T                 -  \\//    -
  13905.  
  13906.         PGP public key - finger arturp@gryzmak.lodz.pdi.net
  13907.                 "My webpage exist - I've seen it!"
  13908. From owner-amigapl  Fri Mar 13 15:43:55 1998
  13909. Received: from gryzmak.lodz.pdi.net (gryzmak.lodz.pdi.net [195.116.162.1]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA06084 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:21:12 +0100 (MET)
  13910. Received: (from arturp@localhost)
  13911.     by gryzmak.lodz.pdi.net (8.8.7/2.1.1/L) id PAA15830;
  13912.     Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:18:20 +0100
  13913. Message-ID: <19980313151820.59806@plukwa.pdi.net>
  13914. Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:18:20 +0100
  13915. From: Artur Pietruk <arturp@plukwa.pdi.net>
  13916. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  13917. Subject: Re: PPC do A1200
  13918. References: <Pine.LNX.3.95.980313103520.1115B-100000@student.man.radom.pl>
  13919. Mime-Version: 1.0
  13920. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
  13921. X-Mailer: Mutt 0.83
  13922. In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.3.95.980313103520.1115B-100000@student.man.radom.pl>; from Kudla Michal on Fri, Mar 13, 1998 at 10:36:51AM +0100
  13923.  
  13924. On Fri, Mar 13, 1998 at 10:36:51AM +0100, Kudla Michal wrote:
  13925. > W sobote 14 Mar 1998 na gieldzie w Wawie ma byc premiera
  13926. > PPC dla A1200. Podobno.
  13927. > -MiKO
  13928.  
  13929.     No... Znam jedna osobe, ktora moze juz dzis ma swoja prywatna
  13930. premiere PPC dla A1200 ;-), ale niestety ta osoba to nie ja... :-(. W
  13931. kazdym badz razie chyba sie do niecj przejde, bo nie wytrzymam z
  13932. ciekawosci :-)
  13933.  
  13934.     Pozdrawia:
  13935.  
  13936. -- 
  13937. -------------------------------------------------------------------
  13938. - Who  : Artur Pietruk - WebMaster @ PDi - www.pdi.net -      /// -
  13939. - Email: arturp@pdi.net IRC: APair TEL: +48 44 7140906 -     ///  -
  13940. - Snail: ul.11 listopada 33a/19 97-140 Koluszki POLAND - \\\///   -
  13941. - Using: AMIGA 4000/40 CV64-3D, A1240T                 -  \\//    -
  13942.  
  13943.         PGP public key - finger arturp@gryzmak.lodz.pdi.net
  13944.                 "My webpage exist - I've seen it!"
  13945. From owner-amigapl  Fri Mar 13 16:13:13 1998
  13946. Received: from piast.pertus.com.pl (root@piast.pertus.com.pl [195.116.191.6]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA06216 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 16:03:59 +0100 (MET)
  13947. Received: from default (ppp174.legnica.tpnet.pl [195.116.255.174])
  13948.     by piast.pertus.com.pl (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA21784
  13949.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 16:04:49 +0100
  13950. Message-Id: <199803131504.QAA21784@piast.pertus.com.pl>
  13951. From: "Arek Winiarek" <sharky@pertus.com.pl>
  13952. To: <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  13953. Subject: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Bootuj=B1cy_CD?=
  13954. Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 16:04:20 +0100
  13955. X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
  13956. X-Priority: 3
  13957. X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1157
  13958. MIME-Version: 1.0
  13959. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2
  13960. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  13961.  
  13962. Hej!
  13963.  
  13964. Szukam informacji na temat patentu, kt=F3ry zastrzeg=B3a sobie "pewna" =
  13965. firma i dzi=EAki kt=F3remu mo=BFemy do woli produkowa=E6 sobie =
  13966. bootuj=B1cych p=B3ytek CD.
  13967. Interesuj=B1 mnie dane na czym =F3w patent polega, jakich kwesti =
  13968. formalnych dotyczy, a tak=BFe czego dok=B3adnie zabrania.
  13969. W jaki spos=F3b botuje si=EA CD samobotuj=B1cy wed=B3ug powy=BFszego =
  13970. patentu?
  13971. Wydaje mi si=EA, =BFe mam pomysl jak to to omin=B1=E6, tak wi=EAc czekam =
  13972. na odzew ...
  13973.  
  13974. Greetings!
  13975.  
  13976.          "Sharky" Arkadiusz Winiarek
  13977.                  Happy Amiga User!
  13978. A-1200T/2.1GB/1260/50/32MB Fast RAM
  13979. From owner-amigapl  Fri Mar 13 17:13:16 1998
  13980. Received: from dollar.it.com.pl (dollar.it.com.pl [195.116.142.3]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA06397 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 17:12:06 +0100 (MET)
  13981. Received: from it.pl (soldier@dialup1.tns.it.pl [195.205.92.130])
  13982.     by dollar.it.com.pl (8.8.8/8.8.8/Internet Technologies) with SMTP id RAA28813;
  13983.     Fri, 13 Mar 1998 17:09:16 +0100 (MET)
  13984. From: Piotr Wojciechowski <soldier@apg.plukwa.pdi.net>
  13985. Reply-To: soldier@it.pl
  13986. To: AmigaPL <amiga@plearn.edu.pl>
  13987. CC: "WFMH's AmigaPL" <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  13988. Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 16:59:07 +0100
  13989. Message-ID: <yam7376.378.1747994368@easymail.it.pl>
  13990. X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
  13991. Organization: APG & AIRI (HTTP://airi.plukwa.pdi.net/)
  13992. Subject: Jaki HD i NetBSD vs. Linux...
  13993. MIME-Version: 1.0
  13994. Content-Type: text/plain
  13995.  
  13996. Hallo,
  13997.  
  13998. Witam wszystkich serdecznie!!  Bardzo prosze o SZYBKIE odpowiedzi na
  13999. ponizsze pytania.. ;)  :
  14000.  
  14001.  
  14002. 1) Zamierzam w najblizszych dniach kupic noewgo HD'ka.. Mysle o jakis 3.2GB
  14003. - czy nie bede mial z tym zadnych problemow z Amy (nie powinno byc, ale czy
  14004. cos moze wystapic ??). Jakie byscie polecali i dlaczego...  Ma ktos moze
  14005. wejscia na nowe, lecz tansze takie maszynki (IDE) :) ???
  14006.  
  14007. 2) Na czesci tego dysku planuje takze zainstalowac cos Unixo-podobnego.. I
  14008. tu rodzi sie pytanie - Linux'a czy NetBSD ???  Prosze o porady co wybrac i
  14009. dlaczego - oraz ile optymalnie miejsca na to przeznaczyc...
  14010.  
  14011.  
  14012. Niecierpliwie czekam na odpowiedzi.  ReplyTo postaram sie ustawic.. Jesli
  14013. tak mozna.. ;))
  14014.  
  14015.    Z gory dzieki!!
  14016.  
  14017. Zdrowko
  14018. -- 
  14019.                        Piotr '#Soldier' Wojciechowski
  14020.                            *Amiga Promotion Group*
  14021.                     _Amiga Integrated Regsite Initiative_
  14022.  
  14023.           Working on: A1240/40T,18MB,1.76,A1438s,33k6, HP670C and...
  14024.  
  14025.                            e-mail: /soldier@it.pl/
  14026.  
  14027.  
  14028. From owner-amigapl  Fri Mar 13 17:43:14 1998
  14029. Received: from poczta.tom.pl ([195.117.200.1]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA06465 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 17:36:26 +0100 (MET)
  14030. Received: (qmail 8377 invoked from network); 13 Mar 1998 16:36:11 -0000
  14031. Received: from ppp-cst143.warszawa.tpnet.pl (HELO friko2.onet.pl) (misha@194.204.131.143)
  14032.   by poczta.tom.pl with SMTP; 13 Mar 1998 16:36:11 -0000
  14033. From: Michal Durys <misha@friko2.onet.pl>
  14034. Reply-To: misha@friko2.onet.pl
  14035. To: AmigaPL <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  14036. Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 22:27:39 +0100
  14037. Message-ID: <yam7375.1976.17525344@poczta.tom.pl>
  14038. X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
  14039. Organization: El Condor Software
  14040. Subject: Apollo i lha
  14041. MIME-Version: 1.0
  14042. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  14043. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  14044.  
  14045. Odk=B1d przeszed=B3em na Apollo lha nie radzi sobie z rozpakowywaniem
  14046. archiw=F3w na dysk. Czasem z miejsca wywala I/O error, czasem rozpakuje
  14047. jeden plik. Przy rozpakowywaniu do RAM'u nie ma =BFadnych problem=F3w. lz=
  14048. x
  14049. radzi sobie znakomicie niezale=BFnie od tego, z czym ma doczyniemnia.
  14050. Gdzie jest pies pogrzebany?
  14051.  
  14052. -- =
  14053.  
  14054.  +-Misha/El Condor Software-------------misha@friko2.onet.pl
  14055.  | A1200T / '040 / 34 MB RAM / 850 MB HDD / 4x CD / USR 33.6 =
  14056.  
  14057.  +----------------------------------------------------------
  14058.  
  14059. From owner-amigapl  Fri Mar 13 17:43:30 1998
  14060. Received: from arka.mtl.pl (root@mtl.pl [195.116.4.4]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA06475 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 17:41:19 +0100 (MET)
  14061. Received: from gie-da (rmod24.mtl.pl [195.116.164.26]) by arka.mtl.pl (8.8.7/8.6.12) with ESMTP id RAA18524; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 17:38:36 +0100 (MET)
  14062. Message-Id: <199803131638.RAA18524@arka.mtl.pl>
  14063. From: "Adam Zaparcinski" <gielda@mtl.pl>
  14064. To: "Lista dyskusyjna uzytkownikow komputera AMIGA AMIGAPL" <AMIGA@PLEARN.EDU.PL>,
  14065.         "AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi" <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  14066. Subject: DEV: Kompilacja, SAS/C i MUI
  14067. Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 17:14:25 +0100
  14068. X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
  14069. X-Priority: 3
  14070. X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155
  14071. MIME-Version: 1.0
  14072. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2
  14073. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
  14074.  
  14075. Zobaczcie co ciekawego ostatnio wyplu³ mój kompilator SAS C kiedy próbowa³em
  14076. skompilowaæ przyk³adowy program dla klasy TextEditor.mcc:
  14077.  
  14078. >#define   MUIV_TextEditor_ImportHook_MIMEQuoted  0x00000004
  14079. >include:TextEditor_mcc.h 88 Warning 84: redefinition of pragma or
  14080. preprocessor symbol "MUIV_TextEditor_Im
  14081. >portHook_MIME"
  14082. >                                        See line 87 file
  14083. "include:TextEditor_mcc.h"
  14084.  
  14085. Owe dwie wymienione linie w pliku TextEditor_mcc.h wygl±daj± tak:
  14086.  
  14087. >#define   MUIV_TextEditor_ImportHook_MIME        0x00000003
  14088. >#define   MUIV_TextEditor_ImportHook_MIMEQuoted  0x00000004
  14089.  
  14090. Czy¿by istnia³o ograniczenie d³ugo¶ci nazw i znaki w nazwie powy¿ej pewnej
  14091. d³ugo¶ci nie s± rozpatrywane? Bardzo dziwne.
  14092.  
  14093. >                                                               
  14094. MUIA_Application_UsedClasses, classes,
  14095. >TextEditor-Demo.c 195 Error 9: undefined identifier
  14096. "MUIA_Application_UsedClasses"
  14097.  
  14098. A tego to ju¿ zupe³nie nie rozumiem. Poci±gn±³em ¶wie¿o inkludy do MUI a tu
  14099. okazuje siê, ¿e s± niekompletne?
  14100.  
  14101. To tylko najciekawsze z b³êdów kompilacji. Czy kto¶ móg³by mnie o¶wieciæ o co
  14102. w tym wszystkim chodzi?
  14103.  
  14104. Adam 'Sherwood' Zaparciñski
  14105. mailto: gielda@mtl.pl
  14106. From owner-amigapl  Fri Mar 13 18:13:13 1998
  14107. Received: from plukwa.pdi.net (robert@plukwa.pdi.net [195.116.162.7]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA06608 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 18:03:28 +0100 (MET)
  14108. Received: (qmail 2023291496 invoked by uid 531); 13 Mar 1998 18:01:10 -0000
  14109. Message-ID: <19980313180109.24513@plukwa.pdi.net>
  14110. Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 18:01:09 +0000
  14111. From: Robert Ramiega <robert@plukwa.pdi.net>
  14112. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  14113. Subject: Re: PPC do A1200
  14114. References: <Pine.LNX.3.95.980313103520.1115B-100000@student.man.radom.pl> <19980313151820.59806@plukwa.pdi.net>
  14115. Mime-Version: 1.0
  14116. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
  14117. X-Mailer: Mutt 0.88
  14118. In-Reply-To: <19980313151820.59806@plukwa.pdi.net>; from Artur Pietruk on Fri, Mar 13, 1998 at 03:18:20PM +0100
  14119. Organization: PDi Ltd, Lodz, PL
  14120. X-Personal: PlukwaZone Owner
  14121. X-PGP-fingerprint: BB 1F 6D 5F CF AF 5A 67  E3 0C EA 68 E4 7F 74 B1
  14122.  
  14123. On Fri, Mar 13, 1998 at 03:18:20PM +0100, Artur Pietruk wrote:
  14124. > 
  14125. >     No... Znam jedna osobe, ktora moze juz dzis ma swoja prywatna
  14126. > premiere PPC dla A1200 ;-), ale niestety ta osoba to nie ja... :-(. W
  14127.  Ta osoba bedzie miala swoje PPC niestety dopiero w przyszlym tygodniu...
  14128. =o((( A wszystko przez Urzad Celny.....
  14129.  
  14130. -- 
  14131.  Robert Ramiega     | robert@pdi.net  IRC: _Jedi_ | Don't underestimate 
  14132.  Plukwa Zone Owner  | http://plukwa.pdi.net/      | the power of Source
  14133. From owner-amigapl  Sun Mar 15 12:48:57 1998
  14134. Received: from iftia6.univ.gda.pl (iftia6.univ.gda.pl [153.19.6.6]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA06698 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 18:27:55 +0100 (MET)
  14135. Received: from ppp150b.gdansk.tpnet.pl by iftia6.univ.gda.pl with SMTP
  14136.     (1.38.193.4/16.2) id AA18181; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 18:37:22 +0100
  14137. From: Marcin Ostrowski <amizaur@box43.gnet.pl>
  14138. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  14139. Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 23:48:43 +0100
  14140. Message-Id: <yam7375.2176.3941248@box43.gnet.pl>
  14141. In-Reply-To: <199803121651.RAA16225@arka.mtl.pl>
  14142. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  14143. Subject: Re: Odp: Flop pc -> flop do A600
  14144. Mime-Version: 1.0
  14145. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  14146. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  14147.  
  14148. Dnia 11-Mar-98, Adam Zaparcinski napisa=EE:
  14149.  
  14150.  
  14151. >>"czy wiesz jak przerobic flopa pc na flopa do amigi 600?"
  14152. >
  14153. >
  14154. >My=B6la=B3em, =BFe ju=BF temat 'wymar=B3' bo ludzie pokupowali hdeki i
  14155. >flopy odchodz=B1 w zapomnienie.  Rzecz jest banalnie prosta je=B6li
  14156. >umiesz pos=B3ugiwa=E6 si=EA lutownic=B1 aczkolwiek jest to troch=EA
  14157. >pracoch=B3onne.  Je=B6li chcesz to napisz na priva to wygrzebi=EA
  14158. >gdzie=B6 w przepa=B6ciach moich katalog=F3w stare pliki, kt=F3re
  14159. >instruuj=B1 dok=B3adnie co, gdzie i jak pod=B3=B1czy=E6.  Tyle tylko, =BF=
  14160. e
  14161. >nawet flop HD b=EAdzie dzia=B3a=B3 jako DD.
  14162. >
  14163. >A mo=BFe powinienem stwo=BFy=E6 WWW z opisem?  My=B6licie, =BFe si=EA pr=
  14164. zyda?
  14165. >
  14166.  
  14167.  
  14168. Myslimy ze TAK ! :)))
  14169.  
  14170. Duzo ludzi sie o to pyta, floppy od PC sa tansze niz oryginalne, =
  14171.  
  14172. a poza tym cichsze, czytaja dyski HD (nagrane na DD oczywiscie, =
  14173.  
  14174. teraz ciezko w sklepach o DD) a niektore oryginalne stacje nie
  14175. chca, no i mozna miec nadzieje na nowa wersje grcdisk.device =
  14176.  
  14177. pozwalajaca odczytywac format PC720k .
  14178.  
  14179. --
  14180.  
  14181.                              Marcin Ostrowski
  14182.                        A1200/030/882/28/10Mb/170Mb
  14183.                           High-Radiation C1085S
  14184.                                modem 28800
  14185.  
  14186.  
  14187.                                     mailto:amizaur@box43.gnet.pl
  14188.  
  14189. From owner-amigapl  Sun Mar 15 13:24:55 1998
  14190. Received: from server.fiber.net.pl (server.fiber.net.pl [195.117.208.101]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA00251 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 12:57:00 +0100 (MET)
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  14196.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 16:00:39 +0100 (MET)
  14197. From: "Wojciech Kocjan" <kocjan@ka.onet.pl>
  14198. To: "AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi" <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  14199. Subject: Re: Problem z MUI 
  14200. Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 15:59:57 +0100
  14201. Message-ID: <01bd4f59$da792ce0$fdfefe01@mk>
  14202. MIME-Version: 1.0
  14203. Content-Type: text/plain;
  14204.     charset="iso-8859-2"
  14205. X-Priority: 3
  14206. X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
  14207. X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3
  14208. X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3
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  14211.  
  14212. You wrote:
  14213.  
  14214. >Mam taki problem z MUI. Ot=F3=BF chcia=B3em napisa=E6 aplikacj=EA MUI z =
  14215. u=BFyciem
  14216. custom
  14217. >clas tak, jak powinno si=EA takie rezczy pisa=E6. Na pocz=B1tek spr=F3bo=
  14218. wa=B3em
  14219. >skompilowa=E6 sobie demo class1.c z zestawu dla developer=F3w. i tu
  14220. niespodzianka.
  14221. >Demo w prawdzie skompilowa=B3o si=EA pod sasem ale wyrzuci=B3o dwa warni=
  14222. ngi:
  14223. >[ciach]
  14224.  
  14225. Dolaczyles lib:amiga.lib. Bez tego wiesza sie przy wywolaniu
  14226. DoSuperMethod().
  14227.  
  14228. Wtedy w SASie moga pojawiac sie problemy z stdout - nie wiem czemu. Ale
  14229. skompilujesz i bedzie chodzilo! (przynajmniej z SASem 6.50)
  14230.  
  14231. Wojciech Kocjan
  14232. mailto:kocjan@ka.onet.pl        http://priv.onet.pl/ka/wkocjan/
  14233. GSM: +48 601 473237             SMS mailto:48601473237@text.plusgsm.pl
  14234. AUTHOR OF AStartV4, ANETGUI, NEWFMT.LIBRARY and other things
  14235. ---
  14236. "Software suppliers are trying to make their software packages more
  14237. 'user-friendly'.... Their best approach, so far, has been to take
  14238. all the old brochures, and stamp the words, 'user-friendly' on the cover.=
  14239. "
  14240. -- Bill Gates, Pres., Microsoft, Inc.
  14241.  
  14242. From owner-amigapl  Sun Mar 15 13:25:06 1998
  14243. Received: from server.fiber.net.pl (server.fiber.net.pl [195.117.208.101]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA00145 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 12:55:59 +0100 (MET)
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  14246.           for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 22:28:17 +0100
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  14249.       id WAA16683; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 22:26:36 +0100
  14250. From: "Andrzej 'Killer' Kielar" <kielar@friko2.onet.pl>
  14251. Reply-To: kielar@friko2.onet.pl
  14252. To: AMIGA <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>, AMIGA <amiga@plearn.edu.pl>
  14253. Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 22:16:03 +0100
  14254. Message-ID: <yam7376.189.18363768@friko2.onet.pl>
  14255. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  14256. Organization: Amiga
  14257. Subject: MIAMI,YAM,browsery
  14258. MIME-Version: 1.0
  14259. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
  14260. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  14261.  
  14262. CZE=F4=EA!!!
  14263.  
  14264. Czy mo=FBna w jednej chwili:
  14265. a) =F4ci=E2ga=EA plik z sieci
  14266. b) pobiera=EA poczt=EB
  14267. Czy nie nast=E2pi jakie=F4 przeci=E2=FBenie lini cy c=F3=F4 ?
  14268. Czy w takim przypadku transfer danych bardzo spadnie ?
  14269. ( MIAMI 1.1b , YAM 1.3.5 , Voyager 2.92p )
  14270. SORKI za lamerstwo.
  14271.  
  14272. -- =
  14273.  
  14274. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
  14275. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
  14276. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
  14277.  
  14278.                           Andrzej 'Killer' Kielar                        =
  14279.      =
  14280.  
  14281.         =
  14282.  
  14283.                         E-MAIL kielar@friko2.onet.pl                     =
  14284.      =
  14285.  
  14286.       =
  14287.  
  14288.                  A1200/040/33MHz/18MB/850MB/C1084S/TORNADO-33600         =
  14289.      =
  14290.  
  14291.            =
  14292.  
  14293. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
  14294. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
  14295. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
  14296.  
  14297.  
  14298. From owner-amigapl  Sun Mar 15 13:25:17 1998
  14299. Received: from server.fiber.net.pl (server.fiber.net.pl [195.117.208.101]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA00148 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 12:56:01 +0100 (MET)
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  14310. Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 22:09:20 +0100 (CET)
  14311. From: Kamil Iskra <kamil@dwd.interkom.pl>
  14312. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  14313. Subject: Re: DEV stos
  14314. In-Reply-To: <19980313151609.14740@plukwa.pdi.net>
  14315. Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.980313215812.1285B-100000@jinks.home>
  14316. MIME-Version: 1.0
  14317. Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-2
  14318. Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE
  14319.  
  14320. On Fri, 13 Mar 1998, Artur Pietruk wrote:
  14321.  
  14322. > > >Poczekaj na EGCS
  14323. > > Co to jest?
  14324. > =09Ja moze nie powinienem sie wypowiadac :-)),
  14325.  
  14326. Ale=BF dlaczego? To publiczna lista dyskusyjna. :-)
  14327.  
  14328. > ale jest to
  14329. > alternatywa dla GCC.
  14330.  
  14331. Unika=B3bym s=B3owa "alternatywa", bo sugeruje ono, =BFe jest to co=B6 zupe=
  14332. =B3nie
  14333. innego. Tymczasem EGCS to po prostu bardziej rozwojowa ga=B3=B1=BC kompilat=
  14334. ora
  14335. GCC. Jest to ten sam kompilator, wywodz=B1cy si=EA z tych samych kod=F3w
  14336. =BCr=F3d=B3owych, tyle =BFe rozwijany bardziej aktywnie i odwa=BFnie. Teore=
  14337. tycznie z
  14338. racji tego, =BFe do EGCS s=B1 cz=EA=B6ciej w=B3=B1czane nowe elementy, powi=
  14339. nien on by=E6
  14340. mniej stabilny od GCC, ale praktyka wskazuje co=B6 innego, wi=EAc teoria je=
  14341. st
  14342. najwyra=BCniej do kitu (ten fenomen jest znany cho=E6by z Linuxa, a pierwsz=
  14343. =B1
  14344. znan=B1 mi pr=F3b=B1 jego bardziej naukowego wyja=B6nienia jest znany w pew=
  14345. nych
  14346. kr=EAgach artyku=B3 Erica S. Raymonda "The Cathedral and the Bazaar").
  14347.  
  14348. > Z tego co wiem Kamil wlasnie pracuje nad
  14349. > przeportowaniem EGCS do GeekGadgets.
  14350.  
  14351. Wst=EApna robota jest ju=BF wykonana, pozostaje to doszlifowa=E6. Zako=F1cz=
  14352. ony
  14353. przez Freda Fisha 3-stopniowy rebuilt ca=B3ego GeekGadgets gwarantuje wysok=
  14354. =B1
  14355. stabilno=B6=E6 kompilatora, dlatego te=BF w kolejnym snapshocie GCC 2.7.2.1
  14356. zostanie zast=B1piony przez EGCS 1.0.x (x=3D1 lub 2).
  14357.  
  14358. Zainteresowani znajd=B1 dodatkowe informacje pod adresem:
  14359. http://egcs.cygnus.com.
  14360.  
  14361. / Kamil Iskra    AmigaOS  Linux/i386  Linux/m68k               \
  14362. | GeekGadgets GCC maintainer   UNIX system administrator       |
  14363. | iskra@student.uci.agh.edu.pl  kiskra@ernie.icslab.agh.edu.pl |
  14364. \ kamil@dwd.interkom.pl   http://student.uci.agh.edu.pl/~iskra /
  14365.  
  14366. From owner-amigapl  Sun Mar 15 13:25:24 1998
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  14377.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 21:58:07 +0100
  14378. Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 21:58:06 +0100 (CET)
  14379. From: Kamil Iskra <kamil@dwd.interkom.pl>
  14380. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  14381. Subject: Re: Apollo i 16MB SIMM
  14382. In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.3.95.980312130753.3344B-100000@mops>
  14383. Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.980313214809.1285A-100000@jinks.home>
  14384. MIME-Version: 1.0
  14385. Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-2
  14386. Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE
  14387.  
  14388. On Thu, 12 Mar 1998, LeMUr of blabla (Lukasz Prokulski) wrote:
  14389.  
  14390. > =09W instrukcji (rev 1.5 gwoli scislosci) pisze ze moze to byc FPM
  14391. > _lub_ EDO... Wiec jak to jest? Zreszta - gdyby EDO nie moglo byc, to
  14392. > najprawdopodobniej (tak sadze) pamiec w ogole by nie byla widziana, a nie
  14393. > tak jak jest - jej polowa.
  14394.  
  14395. Pozw=F3lcie, =BFe przedstawi=EA w=B3asny pogl=B1d na t=EA spraw=EA. Jestem =
  14396. co prawda w
  14397. tej dziedzinie laikiem, wi=EAc z pokor=B1 przyjm=EA krytyczne komentarze
  14398. bardziej uczonych w temacie.
  14399.  
  14400. Je=BFeli si=EA zastanowi=E6, czym si=EA r=F3=BFni=B1 pami=EAci EDO od zwyk=
  14401. =B3ych, to
  14402. dochodzi si=EA do nie odpartego wniosku, =BFe one s=B1 w 100% kompatybilne =
  14403. w
  14404. d=F3=B3, wi=EAc o =BFadnych problemach nie mo=BFe by=E6 mowy.
  14405.  
  14406. To jednak k=B3=F3ci si=EA z praktyk=B1, w kt=F3rej obserwujemy, =BFe:
  14407.  
  14408. 1. cz=EAsto widoczne jest mniej pami=EAci, ni=BF jest jej naprawd=EA (np. t=
  14409. ylko 8
  14410. MB, cho=E6 SIMM jest 16 MB)
  14411.  
  14412. 2. niekt=F3re SIMMY w og=F3le odmawiaj=B1 wsp=F3=B3pracy, wywalaj=B1c Amig=
  14413. =EA jeszcze
  14414. zanim zacznie czyta=E6 cokolwiek z dysku.
  14415.  
  14416. Oba te objawy zaobserwowa=B3em na r=F3=BFnych SIMMach w mojej A1200 z Blizz=
  14417. ardem
  14418. 1230-III.
  14419.  
  14420. Osobi=B6cie odnosz=EA wra=BFenie, =BFe im "nowsze" SIMMy, tym wi=EAcej prob=
  14421. lem=F3w. I
  14422. dotyczy to nie tylko Amigi. Ile ja si=EA na=B3azi=B3em za SIMMem 16 MB, kt=
  14423. =F3ry
  14424. by chodzi=B3y w moim serwerku 486DX100. SIMM wyj=EAty z Amigi chodzi=B3
  14425. =B6wietnie, SIMMy (o ile wiem EDO) wyj=EAte z drugiego PC, kupione jakie=B6=
  14426.  p=F3=B3
  14427. roku temu, te=BF chodzi=B3y =B6wietnie. A nowy SIMM kupiony na gie=B3dzie n=
  14428. ie
  14429. chcia=B3 chodzi=E6 ani w A1200, ani w w/w 486DX100 (p=B3yta PCI, wi=EAc nie=
  14430.  jaka=B6
  14431. okropna staro=E6). Musia=B3em si=EA zadowoli=E6 dwoma SIMMami 8 MB.
  14432.  
  14433. Tak wi=EAc ja uwa=BFam, =BFe to, czy SIMM jest EDO, czy nie, nie ma tu nic =
  14434. do
  14435. rzeczy. Te nowe SIMMy r=F3=BFni=B1 si=EA czym=B6 innym, daleko wa=BFniejszy=
  14436. m,
  14437. niekompatybilnym wstecz.
  14438.  
  14439. / Kamil Iskra    AmigaOS  Linux/i386  Linux/m68k               \
  14440. | GeekGadgets GCC maintainer   UNIX system administrator       |
  14441. | iskra@student.uci.agh.edu.pl  kiskra@ernie.icslab.agh.edu.pl |
  14442. \ kamil@dwd.interkom.pl   http://student.uci.agh.edu.pl/~iskra /
  14443.  
  14444. From owner-amigapl  Sun Mar 15 13:25:31 1998
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  14452. From: =?iso-8859-2?Q?Micha=EE?= Bujak <takeoff@friko.onet.pl>
  14453. To: Lista dyskusyjna uzytkownikow komputera <AMIGA@plearn.edu.pl>,
  14454.         AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  14455. Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 12:07:49 -0500
  14456. Message-ID: <yam7377.2484.136910200@friko.onet.pl>
  14457. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.3a [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  14458. Subject: ISO
  14459. MIME-Version: 1.0
  14460. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  14461. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  14462.  
  14463. Witam...
  14464.  
  14465. Pytanko do pecetowcow :) (I nie tylko :)))
  14466.  
  14467. Przegrywam pliki z Amigi na peceta z zachowaniem dlugich nazw (crossDos7.=
  14468. 01)
  14469. Mam teraz na blaszaku dlugie nazwy Amigowe...
  14470. A teraz pytanie:
  14471. Jakich opcji i w jakim programie do nagrywania plyt na pc uzyc aby amiga =
  14472. tak nagrana
  14473. plyte widziala z dlugimi nazwami ???(w sposob standardowy na Ami mam xxxx=
  14474. xx~1 :(((
  14475. Wiem ze ma to cos wspolnego z formatami ISO ale szkoda mi plyt aby eksper=
  14476. ymentowac :)
  14477.  
  14478. Inny sposob to zrobienie pliku ISO na Amidze ale jakim programem na pc to=
  14479.  iso nagrac???
  14480. EasyCD stare to potrafilo ale nie widzi nowych nagrywarek i qpa! Nowy nag=
  14481. ral ISO ale
  14482. nic go nie widzi (tej plyty) ani PC ani MAC ani Amiga :( Nosnik do kosza =
  14483. =2E......
  14484.  
  14485. Za pomoc wielkie dzieki.
  14486.  
  14487. -- =
  14488.  
  14489. []----------------------------------------------=3D=3D[]
  14490. ][ Micha=EE _tAKEoFF_ Bujak #Amiga Only :)#            ][
  14491. [] Primary... takeoff@priv.onet.pl                []
  14492. ][ Secondary. takeoff@arcadia.tuniv.szczecin.pl   ][
  14493. ][=3D=3D--------------------------------------------=3D=3D[]
  14494.  
  14495. From owner-amigapl  Sun Mar 15 13:25:46 1998
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  14503.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 12:42:55 +0100 (CET)
  14504. Date: 14 Mar 98 12:23:34 +0100
  14505. From: "Grzegorz Juraszek" <yoyo@silesia.top.pl>
  14506. Subject: Re: PPC do A1200
  14507. To: "AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi" <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  14508. In-Reply-To: <19980313151820.59806@plukwa.pdi.net>
  14509. Message-ID: <1050.377T1716T7431820@silesia.top.pl>
  14510. MIME-Version: 1.0
  14511. Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  14512. X-Mailer: THOR 2.5 (Amiga;TCP/IP) *UNREGISTERED*
  14513. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  14514. X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by silter.silesia.top.pl id MAA05621
  14515.  
  14516. Hello Artur Pietruk, on 13-Mar-98    15:18:20 you wrote:
  14517. >On Fri, Mar 13, 1998 at 10:36:51AM +0100, Kudla Michal wrote:
  14518. >> W sobote 14 Mar 1998 na gieldzie w Wawie ma byc premiera
  14519. >> PPC dla A1200. Podobno.
  14520. >> -MiKO
  14521.  
  14522. >    No... Znam jedna osobe, ktora moze juz dzis ma swoja prywatna
  14523. >premiere PPC dla A1200 ;-), ale niestety ta osoba to nie ja... :-(. W
  14524. >kazdym badz razie chyba sie do niecj przejde, bo nie wytrzymam z
  14525. >ciekawosci :-)
  14526.  
  14527. A ja mam problem - co kupi=E6? Chodzi g=B3=F3wnie o processor 68k. W tej =
  14528. chwili
  14529. mam 040/40 i nie wystarcza. Program=F3w na PPC jeszcze niewiele, wi=EAc c=
  14530. zy
  14531. inwestowa=E6 w 060/50, czy mo=BFe kupi=E6 bez procesora i prze=B3o=BFy=E6=
  14532.  z Blizzarda?
  14533. Szkoda karty, kt=F3r=B1 mo=BFna by sprzeda=E6, ale z drugiej strony PPC z=
  14534.  060
  14535. kosztuje znacznie wi=EAcej. Gdyby tylko by=B3y PPC z 040/40...
  14536.  
  14537. --
  14538.    Grzegorz Juraszek * Yoyo^Twilight * Amiga user * AIRI & ATO PL member
  14539.        mailto:yoyo@silesia.top.pl * http://www.silesia.top.pl/~yoyo
  14540. --
  14541.              "Let the truth be known though the heavens fall"
  14542.                     Agent Mulder * The X-Files * Redux
  14543.  
  14544. From owner-amigapl  Sun Mar 15 13:25:55 1998
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  14551.     Fri, 13 Mar 1998 23:14:36 +0100 (CET)
  14552. From: ZBIGNIEW BIERNACKI <zibiaga@uznam.top.pl>
  14553. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  14554. CC: PLUKWA <amiga@plearn.edu.pl>
  14555. Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 23:11:00 +0100
  14556. Message-ID: <yam7376.49.23186600@195.205.28.2>
  14557. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  14558. Organization: AMIGA
  14559. Subject: YAM
  14560. MIME-Version: 1.0
  14561. Content-Type: text/plain
  14562.  
  14563. Ustawcie sobie w prefsach ,,POTWIERDZANIE POBIERANIA''
  14564. dlugosc przykladowa np.8kb, i nie bedziecie musieli pobierac
  14565. zbednych binarow
  14566. ZIBI
  14567.  
  14568.  
  14569. From owner-amigapl  Sun Mar 15 13:26:02 1998
  14570. Received: from server.fiber.net.pl (server.fiber.net.pl [195.117.208.101]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA00187 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 12:56:22 +0100 (MET)
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  14574.           Sat, 14 Mar 1998 01:12:33 +0100
  14575. From: Miloslaw Smyk <thorgal@amiga.com.pl>
  14576. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  14577. Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 19:35:15 +0100
  14578. Message-ID: <yam7376.793.139677816@fiber.net.pl>
  14579. In-Reply-To: <yam7376.115.2016094256@priv.onet.pl>
  14580. X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 beta10 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
  14581. Organization: W.F.M.H.
  14582. Subject: Re: asl.library raz jeszcze
  14583. MIME-Version: 1.0
  14584. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  14585. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  14586.  
  14587. Dnia 13-Mar-98, RHS Linux User rzek=B3 co nast=EApuje:
  14588. > Hej.
  14589. > Jak zrobi=E6 =BFeby ze wszystkich tryb=F3w ID wyfiltrowa=E6 takie kt=F3=
  14590. re s=B1 np nie
  14591. > wieksze
  14592. > ni=BF 320*256.Czyli np wszyskie lowresy.
  14593.  
  14594. ASLSM_FilterFunc, kt=F3ry odfiltrowuje wszystkie tryby mniejsze ni=BF 399=
  14595. x199 w
  14596. C wyglada nastepuj=B1co:
  14597.  
  14598. --8<------------------------------------------------------------------
  14599.  
  14600. ULONG __interrupt __saveds __asm scrFilter(register __a0 struct Hook *hoo=
  14601. k,
  14602.                             register __a2 struct ScreenModeRequester *smr=
  14603. ,
  14604.                             register __a1 LONG modeID)
  14605. {
  14606.     static struct DimensionInfo dInfo;
  14607.  
  14608.     if(GetDisplayInfoData(FindDisplayInfo(modeID), (UBYTE *)&dInfo,
  14609. sizeof(dInfo), DTAG_DIMS, NULL)
  14610.     && dInfo.Nominal.MaxX>=3D399 && dInfo.Nominal.MaxY>=3D199)
  14611.         return(1);
  14612.     else
  14613.         return(0);
  14614. }
  14615.  
  14616. --8<------------------------------------------------------------------
  14617.  
  14618. Troch=EA dziwnie, ale ten sorc ma prawie cztery lata i nie wiem czemu w=B3=
  14619. a=B6nie
  14620. tak to zrobi=B3em... ;)
  14621.  
  14622. Hej,
  14623. Mi=B3ek
  14624. -- =
  14625.  
  14626. mailto:thorgal@amiga.com.pl   |  "Man in the Moon and other weird things"=
  14627.  -
  14628. http://wfmh.org.pl/~thorgal/  |  see it at http://wfmh.org.pl/~thorgal/Mo=
  14629. on/
  14630.  
  14631. From owner-amigapl  Sun Mar 15 13:26:17 1998
  14632. Received: from server.fiber.net.pl (server.fiber.net.pl [195.117.208.101]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA00231 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 12:56:49 +0100 (MET)
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  14638.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 12:14:46 +0100
  14639. Message-Id: <199803141114.MAA27387@piast.pertus.com.pl>
  14640. From: "Arek Winiarek" <sharky@pertus.com.pl>
  14641. To: <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  14642. Subject: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Korekta__-_botuj=B1cy_CD?=
  14643. Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 12:14:15 +0100
  14644. X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
  14645. X-Priority: 3
  14646. X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1157
  14647. MIME-Version: 1.0
  14648. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2
  14649. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  14650.  
  14651. Hej!
  14652.  
  14653. Szukam informacji na temat patentu, kt=F3ry zastrzeg=B3a sobie "pewna" =
  14654. firma i dzi=EAki kt=F3remu nie mo=BFemy do woli produkowa=E6 sobie =
  14655. bootuj=B1cych p=B3ytek CD.
  14656. Interesuj=B1 mnie dane na czym =F3w patent polega, jakich kwesti =
  14657. formalnych dotyczy, a tak=BFe czego dok=B3adnie zabrania.
  14658. W jaki spos=F3b botuje si=EA CD samobotuj=B1cy wed=B3ug powy=BFszego =
  14659. patentu?
  14660. Wydaje mi si=EA, =BFe mam pomysl jak to to omin=B1=E6, tak wi=EAc czekam =
  14661. na odzew ...
  14662.  
  14663. Greetings!
  14664.  
  14665.          "Sharky" Arkadiusz Winiarek
  14666.                  Happy Amiga User!
  14667. A-1200T/2.1GB/1260/50/32MB Fast RAM
  14668. From owner-amigapl  Sun Mar 15 13:26:25 1998
  14669. Received: from server.fiber.net.pl (server.fiber.net.pl [195.117.208.101]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA00170 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 12:56:13 +0100 (MET)
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  14672.           for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 00:16:19 +0100
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  14674.     (1.38.193.4/16.2) id AA18272; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 00:26:19 +0100
  14675. From: Marcin Ostrowski <amizaur@box43.gnet.pl>
  14676. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  14677. Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 19:00:10 +0100
  14678. Message-Id: <yam7376.536.3940632@iftia6.univ.gda.pl>
  14679. In-Reply-To: <19980313152358.01292@plukwa.pdi.net>
  14680. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  14681. Subject: Re: Do Admina
  14682. Mime-Version: 1.0
  14683. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  14684. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  14685.  
  14686. Dnia 13-Mar-98, Artur Pietruk napisa=EE:
  14687. >On Fri, Mar 13, 1998 at 12:31:18PM -0500, Irek wrote:
  14688.  
  14689. >> Ja mam za to inny pomys=B3: proponuj=EA =BFeby listy z attachment'em
  14690. >>d=B3u=BFszym ni=BF np. 3 kB, powinny by=E6 nie rozsy=B3ane na list=EA a=
  14691. le
  14692. >> zwracane do jego
  14693.  
  14694. >Bez przesady... A w attachu moze byc tez tekst (np. ciekawy
  14695. >artykul dolaczony do maila na zyczenie listowiczow).
  14696.  
  14697. Oooo! A pamietam ze na poczatku nie wolno bylo dolaczac ZADNYCH
  14698. attachmentow... Milo ze odchodzimy od takiego ortodoksyzmu.
  14699. Oczywiscie ze czasem trzeba cos do listu dodac, jakis tekst
  14700. na przyklad, ale pewna granica powinna istniec! - przeciez
  14701. nikt nie doda do listu przepisanej ksiazki (600 kilo) !
  14702.  
  14703.  
  14704. >> Je=BFeli natomiast b=EAdzie to jaki=B6 "wi=EAkszy" attachment to mo=BF=
  14705. na go
  14706. >>odes=B3a=E6 adresatowi np. 20 razy :)) (my=B6l=EA, =BFe wi=EAcej razy j=
  14707. u=BF tego
  14708. >>nie zrobi a ludzie nie b=EAd=B1 mu s=B3ali jaki=B6 d=B3ugich, "nawracaj=
  14709. =B1cych"
  14710. >>na odpowiedni=B1 drog=EA list=F3w :))
  14711.  
  14712. >Hmm... To przeciez chyba nie chodzi o to zeby wprowadzic terror i
  14713. >gilotyny. To czy na liste sa slane binaria zalezy od kultury(??) =
  14714.  
  14715. >wysylajacych. Po za tym wg. mnie ten ktory wysyla komus w odpowiedzi
  14716. >na 600kb smiecia 20 razy tyle chyba wcale nie jest od niego lepszy.
  14717.  
  14718. Mam inny pomysl - lista moderowana nie jest, ale wlasnie listy
  14719. z *WIEKSZYMI* attachmenami moglyby byc odstawiane "na boczny
  14720. tor" i puszczane na liste dopiero po kontroli/akceptacji admina.
  14721.  
  14722. Da sie zrobic?
  14723. --
  14724.  
  14725.                              Marcin Ostrowski
  14726.                        A1200/030/882/28/10Mb/170Mb
  14727.                           High-Radiation C1085S
  14728.                                modem 28800
  14729.  
  14730.  
  14731.                                     mailto:amizaur@box43.gnet.pl
  14732.  
  14733. From owner-amigapl  Sun Mar 15 13:26:33 1998
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  14741. Message-Id: <199803141128.MAA27458@piast.pertus.com.pl>
  14742. From: "Arek Winiarek" <sharky@pertus.com.pl>
  14743. To: <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  14744. Subject: Mac
  14745. Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 12:28:25 +0100
  14746. X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
  14747. X-Priority: 3
  14748. X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1157
  14749. MIME-Version: 1.0
  14750. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2
  14751. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  14752.  
  14753. Hej!
  14754.  
  14755. Szukam kontakt=F3w z lud=BCmi, kt=F3rzy lubi=B1 sobie pogiecowa=E6 na =
  14756. swoim pseudo Macu (SS, Fusion). Piszcie na priva.
  14757.  
  14758. Greetings!
  14759.  
  14760.          "Sharky" Arkadiusz Winiarek
  14761.                  Happy Amiga User!
  14762. A-1200T/2.1GB/1260/50/32MB Fast RAM
  14763. From owner-amigapl  Sun Mar 15 13:26:53 1998
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  14770.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 10:25:43 +0100
  14771. From: Karol Bryd <kbryd@kki.net.pl>
  14772. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  14773. Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 21:28:38 +0200
  14774. Message-ID: <yam7376.1924.21472272@kki.net.pl>
  14775. In-Reply-To: <199803111610.RAA27454@arka.mtl.pl>
  14776. X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview3 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
  14777. Organization: BlaBla
  14778. Subject: Re: Do Admina
  14779. MIME-Version: 1.0
  14780. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  14781. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  14782.  
  14783. On 11-Mar-98, Adam Zaparcinski wrote:
  14784.  
  14785. > W zasadzie powinienem wys=B3a=E6 to na priva Adminowi ale mam cich=B1 n=
  14786. adziej=EA, =BFe
  14787. > coponiekt=F3rzy mnie popr=B1.
  14788.  
  14789. [wyciete]
  14790.  
  14791. Je=BFeli zmiany po stronie Admina nie b=EAd=B1 mo=BFliwe to polecam YAM'a=
  14792.  2.0+
  14793. posiada on opcje, kt=F3ra pozwola na kasowanie du=BFych list=F3w od razu =
  14794. na serwerze
  14795. bez ich =B6ci=B1gania. Dzi=EAki temu ja zaoszcz=EAdzi=B3em sporo czasu i =
  14796. te kilkaset
  14797. kilo posz=B3o z dymem w ci=B1gu 5 sek...Jeszcze raz polecam.
  14798.  
  14799. -- =
  14800.  
  14801. Karol Bryd       |   http://www.gliwice.pl/~thufor  |  // Team *AMIGA*
  14802. kbryd@kki.net.pl |Author of util/time/2b_DailyUP.lha|\X/  & BLABLA Member=
  14803.  
  14804.  
  14805. Vote anarchist
  14806.  
  14807. From owner-amigapl  Sun Mar 15 13:26:59 1998
  14808. Received: from server.fiber.net.pl (server.fiber.net.pl [195.117.208.101]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA00258 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 12:57:05 +0100 (MET)
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  14814.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 18:29:34 +0100 (CET)
  14815. Date: 14 Mar 98 18:27:07 +0100
  14816. From: "Piotr Walaszek" <tygrysek@pkp.wroc.pl>
  14817. Subject: Re: PPC do A1200
  14818. To: "AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi" <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  14819. In-Reply-To: <19980313151820.59806@plukwa.pdi.net>
  14820. Message-ID: <811.377T362T11070534@pkp.wroc.pl>
  14821. MIME-Version: 1.0
  14822. Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
  14823. Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit
  14824. X-Mailer: THOR 2.5a (Amiga;TCP/IP) *UNREGISTERED*
  14825.  
  14826. Hello Artur Pietruk, on 13-Mar-98    15:18:20, you said,
  14827. >On Fri, Mar 13, 1998 at 10:36:51AM +0100, Kudla Michal wrote:
  14828.  
  14829. >       No... Znam jedna osobe, ktora moze juz dzis ma swoja prywatna
  14830. >premiere PPC dla A1200 ;-), ale niestety ta osoba to nie ja... :-(. W
  14831. >kazdym badz razie chyba sie do niecj przejde, bo nie wytrzymam z
  14832. >ciekawosci :-)
  14833.  
  14834. Ja juz mam PPC 603e/160 - nizestety nie dziala z moja plyta rozbudowy ZorroII
  14835. Micronika :(((
  14836. Po podlaczeniu po prostu nic sie nie dzieje. :(
  14837.  
  14838.  
  14839.  
  14840.  
  14841.  
  14842.     "`-/")_.-'"``-._      Grrrrrr, :)
  14843.     . . `: -._    )-:-,_       Amiga E/Box 1230/50, 18MB, 2.5Gb + 6.3Gb hdd,
  14844.    (*_,)'  _  )`-.\  ``-'      CD4x4, NEC Multisync3D, ZII i CV64/3d
  14845.   _.- _..-_/ / ((.'       tygrysek@friko.onet.pl        tygrysek@pkp.wroc.pl
  14846. _((,.-'  ((,/             http://friko.onet.pl/wr/tygrysek
  14847.  
  14848. From owner-amigapl  Sun Mar 15 13:27:06 1998
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  14856. From: At0m <at0m@friko.onet.pl>
  14857. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  14858. Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 22:41:56 -0000
  14859. Message-ID: <yam7375.2813.2015770600@priv.onet.pl>
  14860. In-Reply-To: <19980311134006.41028@plukwa.pdi.net>
  14861. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  14862. Organization: Amiga Scene
  14863. Subject: Re: ScanDubler
  14864. MIME-Version: 1.0
  14865. X-ISO-CONVERTED: Yam_ISO2 1.06 (17.11.97) (c) Silver Dream !
  14866. X-YAMISO-UPDATE: ftp://wfmh.org.pl/pub/yam_iso2/
  14867. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  14868. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  14869.  
  14870. On 11-Mar-98, Artur Pietruk wrote:
  14871.  
  14872. >To jest "Undocumented feature" (*) tego sacandoublera. A masz
  14873. >trojkolorowe paski, tak okolo 10, biegnace od lewej do prawej? Ciekwi mn=
  14874. ie
  14875. >to bo u mnie sa. Tylko nie jestem pewien czy jest to "Undocumented
  14876. >feature" wszystkich egzemplarzy, czy tylko mojego :-)
  14877.  
  14878. Wiem o co chodzi bo mialem co=B6 takiego w NTSC na monitorze ADAX'a do Am=
  14879. igi.
  14880. Na szcze=B6cie w ScanDublerze + HYUNDAI DeluxScan 5870 takie co=B6 nie wy=
  14881. st=EApuje.
  14882. Z tego co wiem to u innych te=BF.
  14883.  
  14884.  
  14885. -- =
  14886.  
  14887.     ,,,  ---------------------  ,,,
  14888.    (o.o) |  *AT0M / SUSPECT*   | (o.o)
  14889.    =A4(=3D)=A4 |     3D - GFX      | =A4(=3D)=A4
  14890.      +   |<at0m@priv.onet.pl>|   +
  14891.      ^   ---------------------   ^
  14892.           AmiScenePage Owner
  14893.       *www.kompit.com.pl/~joker*
  14894.  
  14895. From owner-amigapl  Sun Mar 15 13:27:13 1998
  14896. Received: from server.fiber.net.pl (server.fiber.net.pl [195.117.208.101]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA00212 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 12:56:38 +0100 (MET)
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  14902.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 09:24:40 +0100 (MET)
  14903. From: "Wojciech Kocjan" <kocjan@ka.onet.pl>
  14904. To: "AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi" <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  14905. Subject: Re: Apollo 040
  14906. Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 09:11:34 +0100
  14907. Message-ID: <01bd4f20$cdcaa700$fdfefe01@mk>
  14908. MIME-Version: 1.0
  14909. Content-Type: text/plain;
  14910.     charset="iso-8859-2"
  14911. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
  14912. X-Priority: 3
  14913. X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
  14914. X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3
  14915. X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3
  14916.  
  14917. You wrote:
  14918. > Poszukiwany program jest na Aminecie
  14919. >w katalogu util/misc (FastROM), zamiast w cli/boot, jak wiekszosc
  14920. >tego typu programow.
  14921.  
  14922. Sciagnalem go sobie (dzieki za adres) i nasunelo mi sie kilka pytan:
  14923. 1. Skoro on NIE umie zczytac Kickstartu z twardziela (a mi chodzi glownie o
  14924. podmiane 3.0 na 3.1), to czy jeszcze jakis program tego typu chodzi z
  14925. Apollem
  14926. 2. Skoro jest dolaczony kod zrodlowy, to czy moze na jego bazie daloby sie
  14927. napisac cos podobnego, ale ladujacego KS z dysku? Ja sie nie znam na MMU,
  14928. ale zapewne jest wielu dobrych koderow na liscie, a moze sie myle?
  14929. 3. Jesli nie macie zamiaru zmieniac KSa, to FastROM nie ma za bardzo sensu -
  14930. w/g AIBB tylko grafika przyspieszyla 0 do 5% (czasami 2%, czasami 4%),
  14931. reszta chodzi tak samo. Gdy z FastROMem wlaczonym troche popracowalem, to
  14932. przyspieszyl minimalnie - ale zawsze :) Ale glownie chodzi tu o operacje
  14933. zwiazane z systemem, a LightWave na przyklad liczy tak samo.
  14934.  
  14935. Wojciech Kocjan
  14936. mailto:kocjan@ka.onet.pl        http://priv.onet.pl/ka/wkocjan/
  14937. GSM: +48 601 473237             SMS mailto:48601473237@text.plusgsm.pl
  14938. AUTHOR OF AStartV4, ANETGUI, NEWFMT.LIBRARY and other things
  14939. ---
  14940. "Software suppliers are trying to make their software packages more
  14941. 'user-friendly'.... Their best approach, so far, has been to take
  14942. all the old brochures, and stamp the words, 'user-friendly' on the cover."
  14943. -- Bill Gates, Pres., Microsoft, Inc.
  14944.  
  14945. From owner-amigapl  Sun Mar 15 13:27:20 1998
  14946. Received: from server.fiber.net.pl (server.fiber.net.pl [195.117.208.101]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA00130 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 12:55:50 +0100 (MET)
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  14953. From: At0m <at0m@friko.onet.pl>
  14954. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  14955. Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 22:37:52 -0000
  14956. Message-ID: <yam7375.2637.2015770600@priv.onet.pl>
  14957. In-Reply-To: <yam7374.446.21364296@kki.net.pl>
  14958. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  14959. Organization: Amiga Scene
  14960. Subject: Re: ScanDubler
  14961. MIME-Version: 1.0
  14962. X-ISO-CONVERTED: Yam_ISO2 1.06 (17.11.97) (c) Silver Dream !
  14963. X-YAMISO-UPDATE: ftp://wfmh.org.pl/pub/yam_iso2/
  14964. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  14965. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  14966.  
  14967. On 11-Mar-98, Pawel Golebiewski wrote:
  14968. >>>boot menu (nawet fajne, pixele kwadratowe jak na  pc) wgra=B3 sie Work=
  14969. bench
  14970. >>>i tu niespodzianka - szare ramki wok=F3=B3 WB. Pod=B3=B1czam monitor d=
  14971. o gniazda RGB
  14972. >>Fakt! U moich trzech koleg=F3w r=F3wnie=BF s=B1 szare ramki.
  14973.  
  14974. >A jak to wyglada w trybach Multiscan, DoublePAL, ...
  14975. >Tez sa szare ramki ???
  14976.  
  14977. TAK. Gdyby ta sytuacja wystepowala tylko w promowanym 15khz to mo=BFna by=
  14978.  to
  14979. zrozumie=E6. Ale dla czego znikaja ramki w DoublePalu i Multiscanie, te r=
  14980. yby
  14981. powinny by=E6
  14982. przez scandubler przepuszczane bez =BFadnych zmian (bo po co co=B6 zmieni=
  14983. a=E6?).
  14984.  
  14985. >-- =
  14986.  
  14987. >*-----------------------------------------------------------*
  14988. >      \|/            #Pawel Golebiewski#            \|/      =
  14989.  
  14990. >     (=A9_=A9)          #Catv Josat Czluchow#          (=A9_=A9)     =
  14991.  
  14992. >-oOO--(O)--OOo-   mail:wembley@kki.net.pl   -oOO--(O)--OOo-
  14993. >*-----------------------------------------------------------*
  14994. >A1200T/040/25MHz/18MB/1.6GB/1.76MB/CDROM/M1438S/LJIII/33600
  14995.  
  14996.  
  14997. >- WFMH AmigaPL ---------------------------------------------------------=
  14998. -----
  14999. >                      Ogloszenia kupno/sprzedaz  http://amiga.com.pl/gie=
  15000. lda/
  15001.  
  15002.  
  15003. -- =
  15004.  
  15005.     ,,,  ---------------------  ,,,
  15006.    (o.o) |  *AT0M / SUSPECT*   | (o.o)
  15007.    =A4(=3D)=A4 |     3D - GFX      | =A4(=3D)=A4
  15008.      +   |<at0m@priv.onet.pl>|   +
  15009.      ^   ---------------------   ^
  15010.           AmiScenePage Owner
  15011.       *www.kompit.com.pl/~joker*
  15012.  
  15013. From owner-amigapl  Sun Mar 15 13:27:27 1998
  15014. Received: from server.fiber.net.pl (server.fiber.net.pl [195.117.208.101]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA00249 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 12:56:59 +0100 (MET)
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  15020.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 15:56:58 +0100 (MET)
  15021. From: "Wojciech Kocjan" <kocjan@ka.onet.pl>
  15022. To: "AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi" <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  15023. Subject: Dev: Synchronizacja dzwieku i obrazu
  15024. Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 15:56:11 +0100
  15025. Message-ID: <01bd4f59$53d20b80$fdfefe01@mk>
  15026. MIME-Version: 1.0
  15027. Content-Type: text/plain;
  15028.     charset="iso-8859-1"
  15029. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
  15030. X-Priority: 3
  15031. X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
  15032. X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3
  15033. X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3
  15034.  
  15035. Czesc!
  15036.  
  15037. Mam taki problem:
  15038. Bede pisal playerek do pewnego formatu animacji i pojawia sie jeden problem:
  15039. jak zsynchronizowac obraz z dzwiekiem - w tej animacji dzwiek zapisywany
  15040. jest co FPS ramek (28867 bajtow), na poczatku 2 sekundy (chyba do
  15041. latwiejszej synchronizacji). Sama dekompresja obrazu to nie jest zaden
  15042. problem, ale jak puscic dokladnie co sekunde (glupio brzmi, gdy sie pomyli).
  15043.  
  15044. Wojciech Kocjan
  15045. mailto:kocjan@ka.onet.pl        http://priv.onet.pl/ka/wkocjan/
  15046. GSM: +48 601 473237             SMS mailto:48601473237@text.plusgsm.pl
  15047. AUTHOR OF AStartV4, ANETGUI, NEWFMT.LIBRARY and other things
  15048. ---
  15049. "Software suppliers are trying to make their software packages more
  15050. 'user-friendly'.... Their best approach, so far, has been to take
  15051. all the old brochures, and stamp the words, 'user-friendly' on the cover."
  15052. -- Bill Gates, Pres., Microsoft, Inc.
  15053.  
  15054. From owner-amigapl  Sun Mar 15 13:27:34 1998
  15055. Received: from server.fiber.net.pl (server.fiber.net.pl [195.117.208.101]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA00131 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 12:55:51 +0100 (MET)
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  15062. From: At0m <at0m@friko.onet.pl>
  15063. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  15064. Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 22:46:27 -0000
  15065. Message-ID: <yam7375.1371.2015770600@priv.onet.pl>
  15066. In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.3.95.980310230447.8183H-100000@student>
  15067. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  15068. Organization: Amiga Scene
  15069. Subject: Re: your mail
  15070. MIME-Version: 1.0
  15071. X-ISO-CONVERTED: Yam_ISO2 1.06 (17.11.97) (c) Silver Dream !
  15072. X-YAMISO-UPDATE: ftp://wfmh.org.pl/pub/yam_iso2/
  15073. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  15074. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  15075.  
  15076. On 10-Mar-98, Grzegorz Junka wrote:
  15077.  
  15078. >ps. Myslalem, ze Admin swieci przykladem i nie odpowiada na glupie listy=
  15079. ?
  15080. >:-)
  15081.  
  15082. Niestety s=B1 wyj=B1tki potwierdzaj=B1ce regu=B3e. =
  15083.  
  15084.  
  15085. PS. Jeszcze raz apeluje o za=B3o=BFenie filtra na wszystkie listy powy=BF=
  15086. ej 15KB,
  15087. jesli
  15088. w tygodniu przychodzi kilkaset list=F3w to jest du=BFe prawdopodobie=F1st=
  15089. wo, =BFe
  15090. znajd=B1
  15091. si=EA tam jakies =B6mieci (wys=B3ane chocia=BFby przez pomy=B3ke) tu regu=
  15092. lamin nic nie
  15093. pomo=BFe.
  15094.  
  15095. -- =
  15096.  
  15097.     ,,,  ---------------------  ,,,
  15098.    (o.o) |  *AT0M / SUSPECT*   | (o.o)
  15099.    =A4(=3D)=A4 |     3D - GFX      | =A4(=3D)=A4
  15100.      +   |<at0m@priv.onet.pl>|   +
  15101.      ^   ---------------------   ^
  15102.           AmiScenePage Owner
  15103.       *www.kompit.com.pl/~joker*
  15104.  
  15105. From owner-amigapl  Sun Mar 15 13:27:48 1998
  15106. Received: from server.fiber.net.pl (server.fiber.net.pl [195.117.208.101]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA00174 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 12:56:15 +0100 (MET)
  15107. Received: from iftia6.univ.gda.pl ([153.19.6.6]) by server.fiber.net.pl
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  15109.           for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 00:16:27 +0100
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  15111.     (1.38.193.4/16.2) id AA18274; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 00:26:25 +0100
  15112. From: Marcin Ostrowski <amizaur@box43.gnet.pl>
  15113. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  15114. Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 19:03:11 +0100
  15115. Message-Id: <yam7376.567.3940632@iftia6.univ.gda.pl>
  15116. In-Reply-To: <19980313151820.59806@plukwa.pdi.net>
  15117. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  15118. Subject: Re: PPC do A1200
  15119. Mime-Version: 1.0
  15120. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  15121. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  15122.  
  15123. Dnia 13-Mar-98, Artur Pietruk napisa=EE:
  15124.  
  15125. >No... Znam jedna osobe, ktora moze juz dzis ma swoja prywatna
  15126. >premiere PPC dla A1200 ;-), ale niestety ta osoba to nie ja... :-(. W
  15127. >kazdym badz razie chyba sie do niecj przejde, bo nie wytrzymam z
  15128. >ciekawosci :-)
  15129.  
  15130. BTW - na coverCD MA ma byc LHA i Dhrystone dla PPC! Czy ktos moglby
  15131.       to przetestowac, albo podeslac temu szczesliwcowi zeby
  15132.       zapuscil? Mysle ze bylby to ciekawy eksperyment :))))
  15133.  
  15134. -- =
  15135.  
  15136.  
  15137.                              Marcin Ostrowski
  15138.                        A1200/030/882/28/10Mb/170Mb
  15139.                           High-Radiation C1085S
  15140.                                modem 28800
  15141.  
  15142.  
  15143.                                     mailto:amizaur@box43.gnet.pl
  15144.  
  15145. From owner-amigapl  Sun Mar 15 13:28:03 1998
  15146. Received: from server.fiber.net.pl (server.fiber.net.pl [195.117.208.101]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA00316 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 12:57:40 +0100 (MET)
  15147. Received: from mail.shaco.pl ([195.117.163.11]) by server.fiber.net.pl
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  15149.           for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 10:47:26 +0100
  15150. Received: from kki.net.pl (user-t6.shaco.pl [195.117.163.116])
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  15152.       id KAA00258 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 10:46:49 +0100
  15153. From: Leszek Swiatek <noe2001@kki.net.pl>
  15154. To: All Amiga Brothers <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  15155. Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 10:45:54 +0100
  15156. Message-ID: <yam7378.2726.508614880@kki.net.pl>
  15157. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  15158. Subject: YAM i Miami nie =?iso-8859-1?Q?pracuj=E2?= poprawnie z moim kontem na SHACO.PL - Help Me !
  15159. MIME-Version: 1.0
  15160. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
  15161. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  15162.  
  15163. Witam (po raz pierwszy) wszystkich braci Amigi !
  15164.  
  15165. Nazywam si=EB Janusz =D4wi=E2tek i nie jestem wpisany na list=EB AmigaPL.=
  15166.   Mimo to
  15167. pozwol=EB sobie zapyta=EA publicznie czy kto=F4 z cz=EEonk=F3w listy nie =
  15168. spotka=EE si=EB=A0z
  15169. tak=E2
  15170. sytuacj=E2:
  15171.  
  15172. =2E..u=FBywam YAM'a (1.34 1.35 2.00) i Miami (...) i mam konto na serwerz=
  15173. e
  15174. SHACO.pl.
  15175.  
  15176. Dotychczas mog=EB wysy=EEa=EA poczt=EB przez SHACO, ale z odbieraniem jes=
  15177. t znacznie
  15178. gorzej.
  15179.  
  15180. YAM 1.3x pokazywa=EE czasami >10000 list=F3w  itp,
  15181. YAM 2 wy=F4wietla w statystyce poprawny stan konta ale po wduszeniu START=
  15182.  
  15183. DOWNLOAD jest deadlock na jakie=F4 2 minuty i na koniec pojawia si=EB=A0k=
  15184. omunikat =FBe
  15185. by=EA mo=FBe jest zbyt ma=EEo przestrzeni dyskowej na koncie (raczej bzdu=
  15186. ra).
  15187.  
  15188. Dla odmiany Outlook (Mac) czy Netscape (PC) dobrze zarz=E2dzaj=E2 tym sam=
  15189. ym co YAM
  15190. kontem.
  15191.  
  15192. Jestem zmuszony do korzystania z ww. a nie z YAM'a !
  15193.  
  15194. Co ciekawsze ten sam YAM i serwer POP3 SHACO dobrze po=F4rednicz=E2 w odb=
  15195. ieraniu
  15196. poczty z kont na kki, polbox czy friko2.
  15197.  
  15198.  
  15199. Moje pytanie jest takie: czy kto=F4=A0z was czcigodni, mia=EE ju=FB taki =
  15200. problem z
  15201. YAM'em lub providerem ?
  15202.  
  15203. Uwaga! =
  15204.  
  15205.    Prosz=EB nie wysy=EEa=EA tzw. dobrych rad dot. np. konfiguracji tego c=
  15206. zy tamtego
  15207. je=F4li nie do=F4wiadczy=EEe=F4 takiego problemu - (pr=F3bowa=EEem na wie=
  15208. le sposob=F3w
  15209. konfigurowa=EA YAM'a i Miami ale to tylko sprawia =FBe p=EEac=EB wi=EBcej=
  15210.  TPsie).
  15211.  
  15212. pozdrawiam, Janusz
  15213. -- =
  15214.  
  15215. SOFT_ENG@SHACO.PL << to ja
  15216. NOE2001@KKI.NET.PL << a to m=F3j brat
  15217. _________________________________________
  15218. A1200/030/882/50/16Mb/2.5Gb/USR.SF.33600
  15219.  
  15220. PS: mog=EB przedstawi=EA wi=EBcej szczegu=EE=F3w dot. tego problemu ale n=
  15221. ie mog=EB
  15222. za=F4mieca=EA nimi Amiga PL.
  15223.  
  15224. From owner-amigapl  Sun Mar 15 13:28:14 1998
  15225. Received: from server.fiber.net.pl (server.fiber.net.pl [195.117.208.101]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA00225 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 12:56:46 +0100 (MET)
  15226. Received: from opnt.optimus.wroc.pl ([195.117.195.3])
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  15229.           Sat, 14 Mar 1998 12:07:33 +0100
  15230. Received: from pppa179.szczecin.tpnet.pl (unverified [194.204.141.179]) by opnt.optimus.wroc.pl
  15231.  (EMWAC SMTPRS 0.83) with SMTP id <B0000074328@opnt.optimus.wroc.pl>;
  15232.  Sat, 14 Mar 1998 12:05:46 +0100
  15233. Date: 14 Mar 98 12:05:13 +0100
  15234. From: "Marek Jablonski" <mjab2@free.polbox.pl>
  15235. Subject: Re: *** Merlin ***
  15236. To: "AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi" <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  15237. In-Reply-To: <199803120616.HAA03039@www.kki.net.pl>
  15238. Message-ID: <968.377T692T7253154@polbox.com>
  15239. MIME-Version: 1.0
  15240. Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  15241. Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
  15242. X-Simple-Truth: Swinoujscie rulez!
  15243. X-Mailer: THOR 2.5a (Amiga;TCP/IP)
  15244.  
  15245. On 12-Mar-98 07:19:53 Marcin Soko³owski wrote:
  15246.  
  15247. >Czesc !!
  15248.  
  15249. >Mam okazje kupic karte 24-bit Merlin z 4 MB na pokladzie. Wiem, ze chyba w
  15250. >ktoryms ze starych "Amigowcow" (moze gdzie indziej) byla taka ladna tabelka z
  15251. >opisem wszystkich istniejacych do tamtej pory kart gfx. Niestety, podczas
  15252. >przeprowadzki wcielo mi te gazete, wiec moze ktos z obecnych tutaj mi pomoze
  15253. >- co to takiego ? Ponoc ma ona mozliwosc rozszerzenia pamieci gfx, ale do ilu
  15254. >(?)... Czy CGX na niej pojdzie ? Jak ona szybka ? Ma blitter ? Scan doubler ?
  15255.  
  15256. Merlin
  15257. Max. resolutions:
  15258. 1900×1200×8 50 Hz il
  15259. 1600×1200×8 70 Hz il
  15260. 1280×1024×8 65 Hz
  15261. 1024×768×16 75 Hz
  15262. 800×600×16 90 Hz
  15263. 800×600×24 60 Hz
  15264. RAM: 2, 4, 8 or 16 MB DRAM
  15265. Bus: Z2/Z3
  15266. Chip: Tseng Labs ET4000W32p
  15267. Pixel clock: 130 MHz, 65 MHz in 16-bit modes, 43 MHz in 24-bit modes
  15268. Hardware sprite: 1, 64×64×2
  15269. Manufacturer: X-Pert Computer Services
  15270. Release date: Early 1993
  15271. RTG software: P96, EGS, Probench
  15272.  
  15273.  
  15274.  MJ
  15275. --
  15276.  
  15277. From owner-amigapl  Sun Mar 15 13:28:20 1998
  15278. Received: from server.fiber.net.pl (server.fiber.net.pl [195.117.208.101]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA00142 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 12:55:57 +0100 (MET)
  15279. Received: from www.kki.net.pl ([195.116.9.70]) by server.fiber.net.pl
  15280.           (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with ESMTP id AAA3284
  15281.           for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 21:37:58 +0100
  15282. Received: from kki.net.pl (AKM-MAYA@pppa237.szczecin.tpnet.pl [194.204.141.237])
  15283.     by www.kki.net.pl (8.8.7/8.8.7.ver6) with SMTP id VAA32060
  15284.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 21:35:14 +0100
  15285. From: Adam Majewski <akmmaya@kki.net.pl>
  15286. Reply-To: Adam Majewski <akmmaya@kki.net.pl>
  15287. To: WFMH-AmigaPL <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  15288. Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 21:30:29 +0100
  15289. Message-ID: <yam7376.1490.1748125672@kki.net.pl>
  15290. In-Reply-To: <19980313151820.59806@plukwa.pdi.net>
  15291. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  15292. Subject: Re: PPC do A1200
  15293. MIME-Version: 1.0
  15294. X-ISO-CONVERTED: Yam_ISO2 1.06 (17.11.97) (c) Silver Dream !
  15295. X-YAMISO-UPDATE: ftp://wfmh.org.pl/pub/yam_iso2/
  15296. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  15297. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  15298.  
  15299. Dnia 13-Mar-98, Artur Pietruk napisa=B3:
  15300.  
  15301. >On Fri, Mar 13, 1998 at 10:36:51AM +0100, Kudla Michal wrote:
  15302. >> W sobote 14 Mar 1998 na gieldzie w Wawie ma byc premiera
  15303. >> PPC dla A1200. Podobno.
  15304. >> -MiKO
  15305.  
  15306. >No... Znam jedna osobe, ktora moze juz dzis ma swoja prywatna
  15307. >premiere PPC dla A1200 ;-), ale niestety ta osoba to nie ja... :-(. W
  15308. >kazdym badz razie chyba sie do niecj przejde, bo nie wytrzymam z
  15309. >ciekawosci :-)
  15310.  
  15311. Gdy ju=BF to zobaczysz, to nie zapomnij wys=B3a=E6 Nam informacji i Twoic=
  15312. h
  15313. wra=BFe=F1 z tego co zobaczy=B3e=B6 :)
  15314.  
  15315. PowerUP   IntelDOWN
  15316.  
  15317. -- =
  15318.  
  15319. Pozdrawiam :-)
  15320.  
  15321. mailto: akmmaya@kki.net.pl
  15322. www: http://www.kki.net.pl/akmmaya
  15323.  
  15324. :-)  w=F3wren  eibos  juCP  ein  (-:
  15325.                                                            Adam Majewski
  15326.  
  15327.  
  15328.  
  15329. From owner-amigapl  Sun Mar 15 13:28:27 1998
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  15338. Date: 14 Mar 98 12:40:59 +0100
  15339. From: "Grzegorz Juraszek" <yoyo@silesia.top.pl>
  15340. Subject: Re: Re[2]: mUSASHI and AmigaOS
  15341. To: "AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi" <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  15342. In-Reply-To: <yam7376.2899.2015758928@szermierz.uni.wroc.pl>
  15343. Message-ID: <2544.377T2987T7603947@silesia.top.pl>
  15344. MIME-Version: 1.0
  15345. Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  15346. X-Mailer: THOR 2.5 (Amiga;TCP/IP) *UNREGISTERED*
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  15349.  
  15350. Hello rusty, on 13-Mar-98    15:28:57 you wrote:
  15351. >Hi,
  15352.  
  15353. >On 12-Mar-98, Artur Muszynski wrote:
  15354. >> On 12-Mar-98, Kudla Michal wrote:
  15355. >>> Wprowadzenie:
  15356. >>> ACS 1/98 s. 25=20
  15357. >>> "mUSASHI:Ot=F3rz...Sama Amiga ma CHORY system operacyjny (w por=F3wna=
  15358. niu do
  15359. >>> innych)"
  15360. >>=20
  15361. >>> Mo=BFna to traktowa=EA jako obraza. Ja uwa=BFam, =BFe powinno=B6ci=B1=
  15362.  redaktora
  15363. >>> (Macieja Matyki) by=B3o kontynuowa=EA ten temat. Lecz jego chyba zatk=
  15364. a=B3o. Mnie
  15365. >>> zatka=B3o. Mo=BFe kto=B6 z czytaj=B1cych zna tego filozofa i spyta si=
  15366. =EA go o co mu
  15367. >>> chodzi=B3o? Ja bynajmniej chia=B3bym wiedzie=EA w czym AmigaOS
  15368. >>> (multitasting) odstaje od innych i jakich? Oczywi=B6cie same konkrety.
  15369. >>=20
  15370. >> NIE ZNASZ MUSASHIEGO??? Gdzie=B6 ty si=EA uchowa=B3 :-) Pokr=F3tce: Mu=
  15371. sashi urodzi=B3
  15372. >> si=EA, uko=F1czy=B3 itd :-) w ka=BFdym razie jest jednym z najlepszych=
  15373.  koder=F3w na
  15374. >> Amig=EA i w og=F3le bardzo dobrym programist=B1 (o ile ma sens takie
  15375. >> rozgraniczenie). Do programowania na Amidze u=BFywa(=B3) w 100% assemb=
  15376. lera,
  15377. >> dlatego jego spojrzenie na AmigaOS jest troch=EA spaczone :-) Znaj=B1c=
  15378.  za=B6 jego
  15379. >> dzie=B3a (raczej Dzie=B3a) wybaczy=B3by=B6 mu jego brak zrozumienia wi=
  15380. elko=B6ci
  15381. >> AmigaOSu, a na pewno nie pisa=B3 jego (Jego) ksywki z ma=B3ej litery :=
  15382. -/
  15383. >>=20
  15384.  
  15385. >Podobnie jak Musashiego spojrzenie na AmigaOS jest troch=EA spaczone, ta=
  15386. k
  15387. >spojrzenie kolegi Micha=B3a na Musashiego mo=BFe by=EA troch=EA spaczone.
  15388. >A mo=BFe kolega Artur ma nieco spaczone spojrzenie na ca=B3o=B6=EA? ;-)
  15389.  
  15390. >W tonie odpowiedzi Artura proponuj=EA pisa=EA o Musashim per Programista=
  15391. , a mo=BFe
  15392. >nawet Filozof - zwa=BFywszy na deklaracje filozoficzne Programisty......=
  15393.  =20
  15394. >(zawarte w omawianym wywiadzie z ACS 1/98).
  15395.  
  15396. Musashi sam proponuje 'Mistrz', dla niekt=F3rych jest wr=EAcz bogiem. Wpr=
  15397. awdzie
  15398. Narcyz nie by=B3 bogiem, ale te=BF z mitologii. Mamona te=BF mo=BFe by=E6=
  15399.  bogiem,
  15400. wed=B3ug Biblii, a s=B3awa lubi uderza=E6 do g=B3owy, jak szampan z b=B1b=
  15401. elkami.
  15402.  
  15403. W oficjalnych chartsach scenowych magazynu Showtime Musashiego nie ma w
  15404. pierwszej dwudziestce legend sceny. Oczywi=B6cie =BFadne chartsy nie s=B1
  15405. obiektywne.
  15406.  
  15407. ps. Gdyby powy=BFsze by=B3o niejasne: szanuj=EA bardzo Musashiego jako ko=
  15408. dera,
  15409. jako cz=B3owieka mam go za <tu wstawi=E6 ulubione s=B3owo>.
  15410.  
  15411. ps2. Ta dyskusja ju=BF by=B3a i z powy=BFsz=B1 opini=B1 wiele os=F3b si=EA=
  15412.  nie zgadza,
  15413. w ko=F1cu wszyscy mamy do pewnego stopnia spaczone spojrzenie na
  15414. rzeczywisto=B6=E6.
  15415.  
  15416. ps3. Takie powiedzenie: "Prawdziwe legendy to tylko martwi ludzie."
  15417.  
  15418. --
  15419.    Grzegorz Juraszek * Yoyo^Twilight * Amiga user * AIRI & ATO PL member
  15420.        mailto:yoyo@silesia.top.pl * http://www.silesia.top.pl/~yoyo
  15421. --
  15422.              "Let the truth be known though the heavens fall"
  15423.                     Agent Mulder * The X-Files * Redux
  15424.  
  15425. From owner-amigapl  Sun Mar 15 18:54:46 1998
  15426. Received: from polbox.com (nose@ppp-cen173.bielsko.tpnet.pl [194.204.147.173]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA01640 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 18:28:02 +0100 (MET)
  15427. From: Mirek Nosek <nose@polbox.com>
  15428. To: amigapl@amiga.com.pl
  15429. Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 02:32:09 -0500
  15430. Message-ID: <yam7378.491.30457840@polbox.com>
  15431. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  15432. Subject: Startup-sequence
  15433. MIME-Version: 1.0
  15434. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
  15435. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  15436.  
  15437. Cze=F4=EA!
  15438.  
  15439. Na szcz=EB=F4cie kupi=EEem sobie 040/25 wszystko jest fajnie, lecz po umi=
  15440. eszczeniu
  15441. w startup-sequence C:CPU CACHE podczas uruchamiania w momencie wykonywani=
  15442. a
  15443. C:IPREFS wyskakuje komunikat "Intuition pr=F3buje prze=EE=E2czy=EA ekran
  15444. Workbencha".
  15445. Po chwili sam si=EB prze=EE=E2cza i wszystko jest jak nale=FBy, pomimo te=
  15446. go jednak
  15447. wydaje mi si=EB, =FBe co=F4 tu nie gra?
  15448.  
  15449. Nie mog=EB sobie z tym poradzi=EA, je=F4li problem jest banalny to przepr=
  15450. aszam.
  15451.  
  15452.  
  15453.  
  15454. -Nosek-
  15455.  
  15456. Pozdrawiam!
  15457.  
  15458. From owner-amigapl  Sun Mar 15 18:54:54 1998
  15459. Received: from friko.onet.pl (friko.onet.pl [194.204.191.9]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA01653 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 18:40:43 +0100 (MET)
  15460. Received: from priv.onet.pl (at0m@ppp168.gdynia.tpnet.pl [194.204.135.168])
  15461.           by friko.onet.pl (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP
  15462.       id SAA15383 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 18:31:43 +0100
  15463. From: At0m <at0m@friko.onet.pl>
  15464. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  15465. Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 14:24:07 -0000
  15466. Message-ID: <yam7377.351.2015706376@priv.onet.pl>
  15467. In-Reply-To: <yam5358.1610.30474192@195.116.9.70>
  15468. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  15469. Organization: Amiga Scene
  15470. Subject: Re: MIDI
  15471. MIME-Version: 1.0
  15472. X-ISO-CONVERTED: Yam_ISO2 1.06 (17.11.97) (c) Silver Dream !
  15473. X-YAMISO-UPDATE: ftp://wfmh.org.pl/pub/yam_iso2/
  15474. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  15475. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  15476.  
  15477. On 02-Sep-92, Darek Gora wrote:
  15478. >Czesc
  15479.  
  15480. >Ostatnio poproszono mnie abym przerobil pliki midi z formatu MUSIC-X 1.0=
  15481.  na
  15482. >normalne midi.
  15483. >Uruchomilem znane mi programy lecz zaden z nich nie czytal tego formatu.=
  15484.  
  15485. >Poszukuje probramu ktorym mozna przerobic te pliki na .MID (dzwieki pozn=
  15486. iej
  15487. >sam podloze). Czy moglby mi ktos podac namiary na te programy.
  15488.  
  15489. Do Music-X byl dolaczony programik konvertujacy midy na format Music-X
  15490. Prawdopodobnie potrafil tez i w drug=B1 stron=EA, ale to juz musisz spraw=
  15491. dzic sam.
  15492.  
  15493. -- =
  15494.  
  15495.     ,,,  ---------------------  ,,,
  15496.    (o.o) |  *AT0M / SUSPECT*   | (o.o)
  15497.    =A4(=3D)=A4 |     3D - GFX      | =A4(=3D)=A4
  15498.      +   |<at0m@priv.onet.pl>|   +
  15499.      ^   ---------------------   ^
  15500.           AmiScenePage Owner
  15501.       *www.kompit.com.pl/~joker*
  15502.  
  15503. From owner-amigapl  Sun Mar 15 18:55:00 1998
  15504. Received: from friko.onet.pl (friko.onet.pl [194.204.191.9]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA01651 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 18:40:40 +0100 (MET)
  15505. Received: from priv.onet.pl (at0m@ppp168.gdynia.tpnet.pl [194.204.135.168])
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  15507.       id SAA15377 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 18:31:40 +0100
  15508. From: At0m <at0m@friko.onet.pl>
  15509. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  15510. Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 15:00:30 -0000
  15511. Message-ID: <yam7377.1534.2015726448@priv.onet.pl>
  15512. In-Reply-To: <yam7375.540.18585408@poczta.tom.pl>
  15513. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  15514. Organization: Amiga Scene
  15515. Subject: Re: =?iso-8859-2?Q?Styk=F3wki?= = cataloger
  15516. MIME-Version: 1.0
  15517. X-ISO-CONVERTED: Yam_ISO2 1.06 (17.11.97) (c) Silver Dream !
  15518. X-YAMISO-UPDATE: ftp://wfmh.org.pl/pub/yam_iso2/
  15519. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  15520. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  15521.  
  15522. On 12-Mar-98, Michal Durys wrote:
  15523. >Cze=B6=E6!
  15524.  
  15525. >Poszukuj=EA skryptu arrexa dla ImageFX do generowania styk=F3wek (obrazk=
  15526. i
  15527. >przegl=B1dowe). Co=B6 takiego jak Snapshot.ifx, ale:
  15528. >=B7 z mo=BFliwo=B6ci=B1 wyboru czcionki jak=B1 s=B1 podpisywane obrazki
  15529. >=B7 z opcj=B1 dodawania do podpis=F3w parametr=F3w obrazka (np: rozmiar=F3=
  15530. w)
  15531. >=B7 nie pomijaj=B1cy obrazk=F3w ze spacjami w nazwie
  15532. >A mo=BFe jest jaki=B6 dobry program do tego?
  15533.  
  15534. Mam skrypcik Arexa, kt=F3ry robi wszystko co opisa=B3e=B6 (i du=BFo wi=EA=
  15535. cej),
  15536. ale do ADPro. Nazywa si=EA Cataloger i jest gdzie=B6 na Aminecie.
  15537.  
  15538. -- =
  15539.  
  15540.     ,,,  ---------------------  ,,,
  15541.    (o.o) |  *AT0M / SUSPECT*   | (o.o)
  15542.    =A4(=3D)=A4 |     3D - GFX      | =A4(=3D)=A4
  15543.      +   |<at0m@priv.onet.pl>|   +
  15544.      ^   ---------------------   ^
  15545.           AmiScenePage Owner
  15546.       *www.kompit.com.pl/~joker*
  15547.  
  15548. From owner-amigapl  Sun Mar 15 19:24:47 1998
  15549. Received: from wfmh.org.pl (piter@pppa241.szczecin.tpnet.pl [194.204.141.241]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA01724 for <AmigaPL@wfmh.fiber.net.pl>; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 19:21:53 +0100 (MET)
  15550. From: Piotr Legiecki <piotrlg@wfmh.org.pl>
  15551. To: AmigaPL@wfmh.fiber.net.pl
  15552. Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 14:03:23 +0100
  15553. Message-ID: <yam7377.1185.505802328@wfmh.org.pl>
  15554. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  15555. Subject: Zasilacze i reszta
  15556. MIME-Version: 1.0
  15557. Content-Type: text/plain
  15558.  
  15559. Czesc
  15560.  
  15561. Postanowilem samemu wstawic 1200 w tower. Po krotkim rekonesansie po sklepach
  15562. mam sporo rozterek.
  15563.  
  15564. Pierwsza sprawa to zasilacze. W zaleznosci od sklepu ceny ksztaltuja sie od
  15565. 25 zl do 90 zl (200W). Czym jeden moze sie roznic od inszego? Bedac przy
  15566. zasilaniu. Czy wielka filozofia jest zrobic przelotke z zasilacza pc, aby
  15567. mogl zasilac A1200? W szczegolnosci pytanie do posiadaczy mikronikowych wiez,
  15568. bo owa firma oferuje jakowys adapter zasilania do Tower (tak to sie zwie).
  15569. Czy to taka wlasnie przelotka?
  15570.  
  15571. Czy zwykla obudowa miditower od pc (np: ATX), pasuje do plyty A1200, czy trza
  15572. bedzie wiercic, ciac etc.?
  15573.  
  15574. Czy finansowo w ogole jest to uzasadnione? Obudowy do pc tez tanie nie sa.
  15575. Jedne kosztuja 200 zl, a inne o tych samych gabarytach 300 (bo maja jakis tam
  15576. znak jakosci CE).
  15577.  
  15578. Wszelkie opinie are welcome.
  15579.  
  15580. Czesc
  15581.  
  15582. -- 
  15583.  
  15584.                   --                                      --
  15585.                     ----------- Piotr Legiecki -----------
  15586.                   --          piotrlg@wfmh.org.pl         --
  15587.  
  15588. From owner-amigapl  Sun Mar 15 19:24:55 1998
  15589. Received: from butler.medianet.pl (root@butler.medianet.com.pl [195.116.184.2]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA01715 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 19:18:19 +0100 (MET)
  15590. Received: from mail.union.org.pl (virtual.medianet.pl [195.116.184.254])
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  15592.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 19:19:26 +0100 (MET)
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  15595.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 19:21:52 GMT
  15596. From: Artur Muszynski <amst@union.org.pl>
  15597. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  15598. Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 14:59:52 +0100
  15599. Message-ID: <yam7378.2645.128586760@mail.union.org.pl>
  15600. In-Reply-To: <1050.377T1716T7431820@silesia.top.pl>
  15601. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  15602. Organization: Union
  15603. Subject: Re: PPC do A1200
  15604. MIME-Version: 1.0
  15605. X-ISO-CONVERTED: Yam_ISO2 1.05 (02.11.97) (c) Silver Dream !
  15606. X-YAMISO-UPDATE: ftp://wfmh.man.szczecin.pl/pub/yam_iso2/
  15607. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  15608. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  15609.  
  15610. On 14-Mar-98, Grzegorz Juraszek wrote:
  15611. > A ja mam problem - co kupi=E6? Chodzi g=B3=F3wnie o processor 68k. W te=
  15612. j chwili
  15613. > mam 040/40 i nie wystarcza. Program=F3w na PPC jeszcze niewiele, wi=EAc=
  15614.  czy
  15615. > inwestowa=E6 w 060/50, czy mo=BFe kupi=E6 bez procesora i prze=B3o=BFy=E6=
  15616.  z Blizzarda?
  15617. > Szkoda karty, kt=F3r=B1 mo=BFna by sprzeda=E6, ale z drugiej strony PPC=
  15618.  z 060
  15619. > kosztuje znacznie wi=EAcej. Gdyby tylko by=B3y PPC z 040/40...
  15620.  
  15621. Eureka kilka Blizzard=F3w PPC sprowadzi=B3a i ju=BF zd=B1=BFy=B3a sprzeda=
  15622. =E6. Na razie s=B1
  15623. tylko wersje z 040. Z 060 b=EAd=B1... no w=B3a=B6nie dok=B3adnie nie wiad=
  15624. omo.
  15625.  
  15626. -- =
  15627.  
  15628.  
  15629.    // Artur Muszynski (AMST/UNION) A4000/040/EGS
  15630.  \//  e-mail: amst@union.org.pl
  15631.  
  15632. From owner-amigapl  Sun Mar 15 19:25:03 1998
  15633. Received: from www.kki.net.pl (www.kki.net.pl [195.116.9.70]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA01702 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 19:09:32 +0100 (MET)
  15634. Received: from kki.net.pl (AKM-MAYA@pppa204.szczecin.tpnet.pl [194.204.141.204])
  15635.     by www.kki.net.pl (8.8.7/8.8.7.ver6) with SMTP id TAA31191
  15636.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 19:09:49 +0100
  15637. From: Adam Majewski <akmmaya@kki.net.pl>
  15638. Reply-To: Adam Majewski <akmmaya@kki.net.pl>
  15639. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  15640. Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 19:04:02 +0100
  15641. Message-ID: <yam7378.134.1748360008@kki.net.pl>
  15642. In-Reply-To: <yam7376.189.18363768@friko2.onet.pl>
  15643. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  15644. Subject: Re: MIAMI,YAM,browsery
  15645. MIME-Version: 1.0
  15646. X-ISO-CONVERTED: Yam_ISO2 1.06 (17.11.97) (c) Silver Dream !
  15647. X-YAMISO-UPDATE: ftp://wfmh.org.pl/pub/yam_iso2/
  15648. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  15649. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  15650.  
  15651. Dnia 13-Mar-98, Andrzej 'Killer' Kielar napisa=B3:
  15652.  
  15653. >CZE=B6=E6!!!
  15654.  
  15655. >Czy mo=BFna w jednej chwili:
  15656. >a) =B6ci=B1ga=E6 plik z sieci
  15657. >b) pobiera=E6 poczt=EA
  15658. >Czy nie nast=B1pi jakie=B6 przeci=B1=BFenie lini cy c=F3=B6 ?
  15659.  
  15660. Ja u siebie =BFadnego przeci=B1=BFenia nie zauwa=BFy=B3em :)
  15661.  
  15662. >Czy w takim przypadku transfer danych bardzo spadnie ?
  15663.  
  15664. Mo=BFe tylko troszeczk=EA spadnie transwer, ale nieznacznie. =
  15665.  
  15666. Zawsze tak robi=EA (WWW, IRC, EMAIL, FTP) bo inaszej szkoda czasu.
  15667. Poczta przychodzi szybko, IRC to sam tekst, WWW przez Proxy.
  15668. Wszystko =B6miga jak szalone :) Tylko czasem pami=EAci graficznej brakuje=
  15669.  :(
  15670. A FTP jak to FTP raz lepiej raz gorzej
  15671.  
  15672. >( MIAMI 1.1b , YAM 1.3.5 , Voyager 2.92p )
  15673.  
  15674. u mnie: MIAMI 2.1c, YAM 1.3.4, IBrowse 1.12
  15675.  
  15676. >SORKI za lamerstwo.
  15677.  
  15678. no problem
  15679.  
  15680. -- =
  15681.  
  15682. Pozdrawiam :-)
  15683.  
  15684. mailto: akmmaya@kki.net.pl
  15685. www: http://www.kki.net.pl/akmmaya
  15686.  
  15687. :-)  w=F3wren  eibos  juCP  ein  (-:
  15688.                                                            Adam Majewski
  15689.  
  15690.  
  15691.  
  15692. From owner-amigapl  Sun Mar 15 19:25:09 1998
  15693. Received: from mx1.polbox.com (mx1.polbox.com [195.116.5.16]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA01709 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 19:15:03 +0100 (MET)
  15694. Received: from polbox.com (BezYm@ppp3.jeleniag.tpnet.pl [195.116.241.3])
  15695.     by mx1.polbox.com (8.8.8/rev-A0) with SMTP id TAA15332
  15696.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 19:18:15 +0100
  15697. From: bezimx <bezimx@polbox.com>
  15698. Reply-To: BEZIMX@polbox.com
  15699. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  15700. Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 19:14:34 +0100
  15701. Message-ID: <yam7378.1737.1748458520@195.116.5.16>
  15702. In-Reply-To: <811.377T362T11070534@pkp.wroc.pl>
  15703. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  15704. Organization: Technical University of Wroclaw
  15705. Subject: Poszukiwany !
  15706. MIME-Version: 1.0
  15707. Content-Type: text/plain
  15708.  
  15709. PATRZALA !
  15710. DEAD OR ALIVE !!!
  15711. -- 
  15712. Piotr Mirek * BezYmienny *
  15713.  mailto:bezimx@polbox.com
  15714.  
  15715.  
  15716.  
  15717.  
  15718. ----- [ REKLAMA / ADVERTISEMENT ] ------------------------
  15719.  
  15720. Zostan Autoryzowanym Partnerem Polbox On-Line Service!
  15721. Szczegoly:  http://www.polbox.pl/98partner.html
  15722.  
  15723. ----------------------------------------------------------
  15724.  
  15725. From owner-amigapl  Sun Mar 15 19:25:16 1998
  15726. Received: from www.kki.net.pl (www.kki.net.pl [195.116.9.70]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA01701 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 19:09:32 +0100 (MET)
  15727. Received: from kki.net.pl (AKM-MAYA@pppa204.szczecin.tpnet.pl [194.204.141.204])
  15728.     by www.kki.net.pl (8.8.7/8.8.7.ver6) with SMTP id TAA31211
  15729.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 19:09:57 +0100
  15730. From: Adam Majewski <akmmaya@kki.net.pl>
  15731. Reply-To: Adam Majewski <akmmaya@kki.net.pl>
  15732. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  15733. Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 19:00:35 +0100
  15734. Message-ID: <yam7378.1769.1748360008@kki.net.pl>
  15735. In-Reply-To: <1050.377T1716T7431820@silesia.top.pl>
  15736. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  15737. Subject: Re: PPC do A1200
  15738. MIME-Version: 1.0
  15739. X-ISO-CONVERTED: Yam_ISO2 1.06 (17.11.97) (c) Silver Dream !
  15740. X-YAMISO-UPDATE: ftp://wfmh.org.pl/pub/yam_iso2/
  15741. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  15742. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  15743.  
  15744. Dnia 14-Mar-98, Grzegorz Juraszek napisa=B3:
  15745.  
  15746.  
  15747. >A ja mam problem - co kupi=E6? Chodzi g=B3=F3wnie o processor 68k. W tej=
  15748.  chwili
  15749. >mam 040/40 i nie wystarcza. Program=F3w na PPC jeszcze niewiele, wi=EAc =
  15750. czy
  15751. >inwestowa=E6 w 060/50, czy mo=BFe kupi=E6 bez procesora i prze=B3o=BFy=E6=
  15752.  z
  15753. >Blizzarda?
  15754. >Szkoda karty, kt=F3r=B1 mo=BFna by sprzeda=E6, ale z drugiej strony PPC =
  15755. z 060
  15756. >kosztuje znacznie wi=EAcej. =
  15757.  
  15758.  
  15759. Je=B6li masz kase to kupuj PPC + 060, je=B6li chodzi o 060 to szukaj wers=
  15760. ji
  15761. 66MHz albo 80Mhz (je=B6li istnieje). R=F3=BFnica w szybko=B6ci mi=EAdzy 5=
  15762. 0MHz,
  15763. a 66MHz to ok 20 MIPS=F3w !!!!
  15764.  
  15765. >Gdyby tylko by=B3y PPC z 040/40...
  15766.  
  15767. Z tego co wiem to s=B1 (...by=B3y...) :( Pytaj w Eurece albo w MARKTOMie
  15768.  
  15769.  
  15770. -- =
  15771.  
  15772. Pozdrawiam :-)
  15773.  
  15774. mailto: akmmaya@kki.net.pl
  15775. www: http://www.kki.net.pl/akmmaya
  15776.  
  15777. :-)  w=F3wren  eibos  juCP  ein  (-:
  15778.                                                            Adam Majewski
  15779.  
  15780.  
  15781.  
  15782. From owner-amigapl  Sun Mar 15 19:54:54 1998
  15783. Received: from butler.medianet.pl (root@butler.medianet.com.pl [195.116.184.2]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA01773 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 19:33:18 +0100 (MET)
  15784. Received: from mail.union.org.pl (virtual.medianet.pl [195.116.184.254])
  15785.     by butler.medianet.pl (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA18154
  15786.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 19:34:25 +0100 (MET)
  15787. Received: from union.org.pl (Konrad@dial-79.medianet.pl [195.116.185.79])
  15788.     by mail.union.org.pl (8.8.6/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA10273
  15789.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 19:36:52 GMT
  15790. From: Konrad Bielski <dominor@union.org.pl>
  15791. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  15792. Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 19:31:12 +0100
  15793. Message-ID: <yam7378.610.140230456@mail.union.org.pl>
  15794. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.3a [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  15795. Subject: Re: PPC do A1200
  15796. MIME-Version: 1.0
  15797. X-ISO-CONVERTED: Yam_ISO2 1.04 (28.10.97) (c) Silver Dream !
  15798. X-YAMISO-UPDATE: ftp://wfmh.man.szczecin.pl/pub/yam_iso2/
  15799. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  15800. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  15801.  
  15802. Dnia 14-Mar-98, Piotr Walaszek napisa=B3:
  15803.  
  15804. >Ja juz mam PPC 603e/160 - nizestety nie dziala z moja plyta rozbudowy Zo=
  15805. rroII
  15806. >Micronika :(((
  15807. >Po podlaczeniu po prostu nic sie nie dzieje. :(
  15808.  
  15809. A bez plyty Z2? U mnie z Z2 dziala OK
  15810.  
  15811. Hej,
  15812. -- =
  15813.  
  15814.                Konrad Bielski
  15815.         E-mail: dominor@union.org.pl
  15816. Pracuje na: A4000T 604e/200 - 060/50 34MB CV64/3D
  15817.             A1200T 603e/160 - 040/25 34MB
  15818.                 =
  15819.  
  15820.  
  15821. From owner-amigapl  Sun Mar 15 20:24:54 1998
  15822. Received: from www.kki.net.pl (www.kki.net.pl [195.116.9.70]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA01866 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 20:15:04 +0100 (MET)
  15823. Received: from kki.net.pl (Amy@ppp202.gdynia.tpnet.pl [194.204.135.202])
  15824.     by www.kki.net.pl (8.8.7/8.8.7.ver6) with SMTP id UAA09285;
  15825.     Sun, 15 Mar 1998 20:15:12 +0100
  15826. From: Pawel Krak <phob@kki.net.pl>
  15827. To: amiga-plearn <AMIGA@plearn.edu.pl>
  15828. CC: amiga-wfmh <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  15829. Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 19:34:58 +0100
  15830. Message-ID: <yam7378.2942.19421448@kki.net.pl>
  15831. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  15832. Subject: Rysunek
  15833. MIME-Version: 1.0
  15834. Content-Type: text/plain
  15835.  
  15836. Hi,
  15837.  
  15838. Jesli ktos ma rysunek szczoteczki do zebow lub jakiegos zabka
  15839. albo jakikolwiek rysunek dotyczacy dentystyki to pliz niech 
  15840. sendnie na priva. Aha... *TYLKO* wektorowki (najlepiej EPS).
  15841. Zadnych bitmapow pliz. Dzienks
  15842. -- 
  15843. See ya!                                          Phobos
  15844. -----------------------------------------------------------
  15845. Pawel Krak * IRC:Phobos_ * mailto:phob@kki.net.pl
  15846. A1200/040/33MHz/18MB/420MB/1084S/CanonBJC240/BrightCom33600
  15847. -----------------------------------------------------------
  15848.  
  15849. From owner-amigapl  Sun Mar 15 20:25:02 1998
  15850. Received: from grendel.sylaba.poznan.pl (root@sylaba-gw.man.poznan.pl [150.254.163.201]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA01863 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 20:13:26 +0100 (MET)
  15851. Received: from sylaba.poznan.pl (baxter@ppp00.sylaba.poznan.pl [195.216.104.100])
  15852.     by grendel.sylaba.poznan.pl (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA27083;
  15853.     Sun, 15 Mar 1998 20:12:43 +0100 (CET)
  15854. From: Bartlomiej Dubik <baxter@sylaba.poznan.pl>
  15855. Reply-To: Bartlomiej Dubik <baxter@sylaba.poznan.pl>
  15856. To: Lista dyskusyjna uzytkownikow komputera <AMIGA@plearn.edu.pl>,
  15857.         AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  15858. Date: Sun, 08 Jan 1978 22:00:23 +0100
  15859. Message-ID: <yam7.1180.1746669400@grendel.sylaba.poznan.pl>
  15860. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  15861. Subject: Amigowe imprezy
  15862. MIME-Version: 1.0
  15863. Content-Type: text/plain
  15864.  
  15865. Czy ktos  zlistowiczow ma informacje na temat imprez amigowych w 
  15866. roku biezacym?
  15867. Odpowiedzi prosze na priv.
  15868. -- 
  15869. Bartlomiej Dubik
  15870. baxter@sylaba.poznan.pl
  15871. E/BOX/1200/030/50MHz/16MB/1.2GB/0.2GB/CDx4......itd
  15872. MOTOROLA ON BOARD !!!!!!!
  15873.  
  15874. From owner-amigapl  Sun Mar 15 20:25:20 1998
  15875. Received: from grendel.sylaba.poznan.pl (root@sylaba-gw.man.poznan.pl [150.254.163.201]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA01878 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 20:22:30 +0100 (MET)
  15876. Received: from sylaba.poznan.pl (baxter@ppp00.sylaba.poznan.pl [195.216.104.100])
  15877.     by grendel.sylaba.poznan.pl (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA27412
  15878.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 20:21:54 +0100 (CET)
  15879. From: Bartlomiej Dubik <baxter@sylaba.poznan.pl>
  15880. Reply-To: baxter@sylaba.poznan.pl
  15881. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  15882. Date: Sun, 08 Jan 1978 22:10:18 +0100
  15883. Message-ID: <yam7.949.1746669400@grendel.sylaba.poznan.pl>
  15884. In-Reply-To: <yam7376.1924.21472272@kki.net.pl>
  15885. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  15886. Subject: Re: Do Admina
  15887. MIME-Version: 1.0
  15888. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
  15889. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  15890.  
  15891. Dnia 13-Mar-98, Karol Bryd napisa=EE:
  15892. polecam YAM'a 2.0+
  15893. >posiada on opcje, kt=F3ra pozwola na kasowanie du=BFych list=F3w od razu=
  15894.  na
  15895. serwerze
  15896. A co niby stary YAM tego nie ma, czy jak ???
  15897.  
  15898. -- =
  15899.  
  15900. Bartlomiej Dubik
  15901. baxter@sylaba.poznan.pl
  15902. E/BOX/1200/030/50MHz/16MB/1.2GB/0.2GB/CDx4......itd
  15903. MOTOROLA ON BOARD !!!!!!!
  15904.  
  15905. From owner-amigapl  Sun Mar 15 20:54:47 1998
  15906. Received: from www.kki.net.pl (www.kki.net.pl [195.116.9.70]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA01926 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 20:30:26 +0100 (MET)
  15907. Received: from kki.net.pl (SoRrOw@ppp81.slupsk.tpnet.pl [194.204.177.81])
  15908.     by www.kki.net.pl (8.8.7/8.8.7.ver6) with SMTP id UAA11565
  15909.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 20:29:22 +0100
  15910. From: Tomasz Mazur <oplaa@kki.net.pl>
  15911. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  15912. Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 20:27:18 +0100
  15913. Message-ID: <yam7378.906.4726120@kki.net.pl>
  15914. In-Reply-To: <yam5358.1610.30474192@195.116.9.70>
  15915. X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
  15916. Subject: Re: MIDI
  15917. MIME-Version: 1.0
  15918. Content-Type: text/plain
  15919.  
  15920.  Uwaga!
  15921. Potrzebny jest jakikolwiek sterownik do skanera stacjonarnego
  15922. podlaczanego przez parallel port.(no scsi)
  15923. Bardzo bym prosil o kontakt na priva.
  15924. oplaaa
  15925.  
  15926.  
  15927. From owner-amigapl  Sun Mar 15 21:24:47 1998
  15928. Received: from willow.oi.pz.zgora.pl (spajk@willow.oi.pz.zgora.pl [193.59.82.212]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA02052 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 21:13:49 +0100 (MET)
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  15931.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 21:13:26 +0100 (CET)
  15932. Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 21:13:26 +0100 (CET)
  15933. From: Dariusz Woloch <spajk@willow.oi.pz.zgora.pl>
  15934. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  15935. Subject: Re: PPC do A1200
  15936. In-Reply-To: <yam7378.1769.1748360008@kki.net.pl>
  15937. Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.3.96.980315210959.19900A-100000@willow.oi.pz.zgora.pl>
  15938. MIME-Version: 1.0
  15939. Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-2
  15940. Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE
  15941.  
  15942. > >Gdyby tylko by=B3y PPC z 040/40...
  15943. > Z tego co wiem to s=B1 (...by=B3y...) :( Pytaj w Eurece albo w MARKTOMie
  15944.  
  15945. :))  ppc sa w nastepujacych konfigach
  15946. 040LC/25 bez kopro i mmu
  15947. 040/25 z
  15948. 060/50 tez cale (pelne:)
  15949.  
  15950. natomiast  mozna zamowic  przynajmniej w marktomie ppc z=20
  15951. podstawka pod 040/40  tylko ze proca to trzeba juz na wlasny rachunek
  15952. kombinowac
  15953. pozdrowka:))
  15954.  
  15955.     _\_                          _/_ =20
  15956. |)\/  (o\ Dariusz Woloch (d2)  /o)  \/(| irc d2
  15957. |)/\__(_/ phone 075-734-2683   \_)__/\(| icq 6828655=20
  15958. Summon Your Faith - Your Intention Must Be Clear=20
  15959.  
  15960. From owner-amigapl  Sun Mar 15 21:25:02 1998
  15961. Received: from willow.oi.pz.zgora.pl (spajk@willow.oi.pz.zgora.pl [193.59.82.212]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA02054 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 21:15:02 +0100 (MET)
  15962. Received: from localhost (spajk@localhost)
  15963.     by willow.oi.pz.zgora.pl (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA19920
  15964.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 21:14:35 +0100 (CET)
  15965. Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 21:14:35 +0100 (CET)
  15966. From: Dariusz Woloch <spajk@willow.oi.pz.zgora.pl>
  15967. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  15968. Subject: Re: PPC do A1200
  15969. In-Reply-To: <yam7378.610.140230456@mail.union.org.pl>
  15970. Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.3.96.980315211350.19900B-100000@willow.oi.pz.zgora.pl>
  15971. MIME-Version: 1.0
  15972. Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
  15973.  
  15974. > A bez plyty Z2? U mnie z Z2 dziala OK
  15975. >                Konrad Bielski
  15976. jak dziala to opisz:))))))
  15977. jak to dziala:))))
  15978.  
  15979.     _\_                          _/_  
  15980. |)\/  (o\ Dariusz Woloch (d2)  /o)  \/(| irc d2
  15981. |)/\__(_/ phone 075-734-2683   \_)__/\(| icq 6828655 
  15982. Summon Your Faith - Your Intention Must Be Clear 
  15983.  
  15984. From owner-amigapl  Sun Mar 15 21:55:23 1998
  15985. Received: from host.pkp.wroc.pl (host.pkp.wroc.pl [156.17.194.29]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA02116 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 21:50:59 +0100 (MET)
  15986. Received: from pppb49.wroclaw.tpnet.pl (Tygrys@pppb49.wroclaw.tpnet.pl [195.116.241.179])
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  15988.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 21:50:34 +0100 (CET)
  15989. Date: 15 Mar 98 21:43:04 +0100
  15990. From: "Piotr Walaszek" <tygrysek@pkp.wroc.pl>
  15991. Subject: Re: PPC do A1200
  15992. To: "AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi" <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  15993. In-Reply-To: <yam7378.610.140230456@mail.union.org.pl>
  15994. Message-ID: <785.378T247T13030315@pkp.wroc.pl>
  15995. MIME-Version: 1.0
  15996. Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2
  15997. Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
  15998. X-Mailer: THOR 2.5a (Amiga;TCP/IP) *UNREGISTERED*
  15999.  
  16000. Hello Konrad Bielski, on 15-Mar-98    19:31:12, you said,
  16001. >Dnia 14-Mar-98, Piotr Walaszek napisa³:
  16002. >>Ja juz mam PPC 603e/160 - nizestety nie dziala z moja plyta rozbudowy
  16003. >>ZorroII Micronika :((( Po podlaczeniu po prostu nic sie nie dzieje. :(
  16004. >A bez plyty Z2? U mnie z Z2 dziala OK
  16005.  
  16006. Dzialalo ale mialo jakis humory, w tej chwili nie dziala juz nawet z sama
  16007. amiga, hmmrrrr
  16008. Probowalem z druga
  16009. A jutro sie dowiem jak z trzecia.
  16010. Moze jest po prostu uszkodzone (PPC)
  16011.  
  16012.  
  16013.     "`-/")_.-'"``-._      Grrrrrr, :)
  16014.     . . `: -._    )-:-,_       Amiga E/Box 1230/50, 18MB, 2.5Gb + 6.3Gb hdd,
  16015.    (*_,)'  _  )`-.\  ``-'      CD4x4, NEC Multisync3D, ZII i CV64/3d
  16016.   _.- _..-_/ / ((.'       tygrysek@friko.onet.pl        tygrysek@pkp.wroc.pl
  16017. _((,.-'  ((,/             http://friko.onet.pl/wr/tygrysek
  16018.  
  16019. From owner-amigapl  Sun Mar 15 22:24:47 1998
  16020. Received: from www.kki.net.pl (www.kki.net.pl [195.116.9.70]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA02186 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 22:13:59 +0100 (MET)
  16021. Received: from kki.net.pl (Wembley@ppp94.slupsk.tpnet.pl [194.204.177.94])
  16022.     by www.kki.net.pl (8.8.7/8.8.7.ver6) with SMTP id WAA30864
  16023.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 22:14:04 +0100
  16024. From: Pawel Golebiewski <wembley@kki.net.pl>
  16025. To: Lista AmigaPL <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  16026. Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 22:07:58 +0300
  16027. Message-ID: <yam7378.2900.19703928@kki.net.pl>
  16028. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  16029. Subject: Taktowanie Apollo
  16030. MIME-Version: 1.0
  16031. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
  16032. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  16033.  
  16034. Witajcie !
  16035.  
  16036. Dzisiaj probowalem przetaktowac karte Apollo
  16037. z 25 MHz (kwarc 50 MHz) na 33 MHz (kwarc 66.660 MHz).
  16038. Zalozylem nowy kwarc, wlaczylem i ...
  16039. zakopcilo sie, az milo ! Na szczescie nie zauwazylem
  16040. (jeszcze) zeby cos poszlo. Czy cos zrobilem nie tak ?
  16041. Kwarc na pewno zalozylem tak jak powinien byc.
  16042.  
  16043. PS. Oscylator wzialem z plyty 386 33MHz,
  16044. czy to ma jakies znaczenie ?
  16045.  
  16046. -- =
  16047.  
  16048. *-----------------------------------------------------------*
  16049.       \|/            #Pawel Golebiewski#            \|/      =
  16050.  
  16051.      (=A9_=A9)          #Catv Josat Czluchow#          (=A9_=A9)     =
  16052.  
  16053. -oOO--(O)--OOo-   mail:wembley@kki.net.pl   -oOO--(O)--OOo-
  16054. *-----------------------------------------------------------*
  16055. A1200T/040/25MHz/18MB/1.6GB/1.76MB/CDROM/M1438S/LJIII/33600
  16056.  
  16057. From owner-amigapl  Sun Mar 15 22:24:55 1998
  16058. Received: from jantar.ias.wat.waw.pl (jantar.ias.wat.waw.pl [193.59.147.36]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA02193 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 22:17:59 +0100 (MET)
  16059. Received: from jantar.ias.wat.waw.pl (ppp2-cst186.warszawa.tpnet.pl) by
  16060.           jantar.ias.wat.waw.pl (MX V4.2 VAX) with SMTP; Sun, 15 Mar 1998
  16061.           22:17:46 MET
  16062. From: Krzysztof Rudnik <rudnik@jantar.ias.wat.waw.pl>
  16063. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  16064. Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 21:18:33 +0100
  16065. Message-ID: <yam7378.1680.2016087960@jantar.ias.wat.waw.pl>
  16066. In-Reply-To: <yam7378.491.30457840@polbox.com>
  16067. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  16068. Organization: IAS WAT
  16069. Subject: Re: Startup-sequence
  16070. MIME-Version: 1.0
  16071. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
  16072. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  16073.  
  16074. Dnia 15-Mar-98, Mirek Nosek napisal:
  16075. >Cze=F4=EA!
  16076.  
  16077. >Na szcz=EB=F4cie kupi=EEem sobie 040/25 wszystko jest fajnie, lecz po =
  16078.  
  16079. >umieszczeniu
  16080. >w startup-sequence C:CPU CACHE podczas uruchamiania w momencie =
  16081.  
  16082. >wykonywania
  16083.  
  16084. Pewnie ta instrukcja powoduje pokazanie sie okienk shella.
  16085. Daj > NIL:
  16086.  
  16087.  
  16088. >C:IPREFS wyskakuje komunikat "Intuition pr=F3buje prze=EE=E2czy=EA ekran=
  16089.  
  16090. >Workbencha".
  16091. >Po chwili sam si=EB prze=EE=E2cza i wszystko jest jak nale=FBy, pomimo t=
  16092. ego =
  16093.  
  16094. >jednak
  16095. Ekran sie przelacza jak w startup-sequence dojdzie do endcli
  16096.  =
  16097.  
  16098.  =
  16099.  
  16100. >wydaje mi si=EB, =FBe co=F4 tu nie gra?
  16101. -- =
  16102.  
  16103. Krzysztof Rudnik     mail,finger: rudnik@jantar.ias.wat.waw.pl
  16104.                      www:   http://www.ias.wat.waw.pl/~rudnik/
  16105.     A1230T 882/50MHz 16MB, CD-ROM, HDD 1GB =
  16106.  
  16107.  
  16108.  
  16109. From owner-amigapl  Sun Mar 15 22:54:51 1998
  16110. Received: from panda.bg.univ.gda.pl (daemon@panda.bg.univ.gda.pl [153.19.120.249]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA02286 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 22:46:12 +0100 (MET)
  16111. Received: from ppp174.gdynia.tpnet.pl by panda.bg.univ.gda.pl with SMTP
  16112.     (1.38.193.5/16.2) id AA03188; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 22:36:54 +0100
  16113. Date: 15 Mar 98 09:22:37 +0100
  16114. From: "Maciej Gajewski" <maciejg@panda.bg.univ.gda.pl>
  16115. Subject: Re: PubScreenManager?
  16116. To: "AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi" <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  16117. In-Reply-To: <yam7375.1815.143364072@server.fiber.net.pl>
  16118. Message-Id: <401.378T1882T5622462@panda.bg.univ.gda.pl>
  16119. Mime-Version: 1.0
  16120. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  16121. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
  16122. X-Mailer: THOR 2.5a (Amiga;TCP/IP) *UNREGISTERED*
  16123.  
  16124. Dnia 12-Mar-98    10:34:36, Marcin Orlowski napisa³:
  16125.  
  16126. >> Szukam programu, ktory moglby wyswietlic liste WSZYSTKICH otwartych
  16127. >> PubScreenow oraz liste otwartych okien, flag itp. Jest cos takiego?
  16128. >> Jesli tak to prosze o namiar. THX
  16129.  
  16130. >Scout (Aminet)
  16131. >Xopa  (Aminet)
  16132. >ARTM  (Aminet?)
  16133.  
  16134. >i pewnie masa innych.
  16135.  
  16136. *Naprawdê* polecam SysInspector'a (Aminet oczywi¶cie).
  16137.  
  16138. --
  16139.  
  16140. Maciej Gajewski     Team *AMIGA*
  16141.  
  16142. From owner-amigapl  Sun Mar 15 22:55:02 1998
  16143. Received: from server.fiber.net.pl (server.fiber.net.pl [195.117.208.101]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA02260 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 22:32:04 +0100 (MET)
  16144. Received: from server.fiber.net.pl (async51.fiber.net.pl [195.117.208.51])
  16145.           by server.fiber.net.pl (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with SMTP
  16146.           id ABB13157 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>;
  16147.           Sun, 15 Mar 1998 22:32:04 +0100
  16148. From: Marcin Orlowski <carlos@wfmh.org.pl>
  16149. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  16150. Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 22:22:05 +0100
  16151. Message-ID: <yam7378.293.140857952@server.fiber.net.pl>
  16152. In-Reply-To: <yam7378.491.30457840@polbox.com>
  16153. X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 beta10 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
  16154. Organization: W.F.M.H.   (http://wfmh.org.pl)
  16155. Subject: Re: Startup-sequence
  16156. MIME-Version: 1.0
  16157. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  16158. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  16159.  
  16160. Dnia 15-Mar-98, Mirek Nosek napisa=B3:
  16161.  
  16162. > Na szcz=EA=B6cie kupi=B3em sobie 040/25 wszystko jest fajnie, lecz po u=
  16163. mieszczeniu
  16164. > w startup-sequence C:CPU CACHE podczas uruchamiania w momencie wykonywa=
  16165. nia
  16166. > C:IPREFS wyskakuje komunikat "Intuition pr=F3buje prze=B3=B1czy=EA ekra=
  16167. n
  16168. > Workbencha".
  16169.  
  16170. Mo=BFe C:CPU >NIL CACHE b=EAdzie pomocne, jako i=BF wtedy nie powinien Ci=
  16171.  si=EA
  16172. pojawi=E6 =BFaden tekst wyprodukowany przez CPU, a przez to i Shell si=EA=
  16173.  =
  16174.  
  16175. nie powinien otworzy=E6.
  16176.  
  16177. -- =
  16178.  
  16179.  My software never has bugs. It just develops random features.
  16180.  
  16181.  Marcin                              http://wfmh.org.pl/~carlos/
  16182.                                        mailto:carlos@wfmh.org.pl
  16183.  
  16184.  
  16185. From owner-amigapl  Sun Mar 15 23:54:55 1998
  16186. Received: from www.kki.net.pl (www.kki.net.pl [195.116.9.70]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA02430 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 23:48:09 +0100 (MET)
  16187. Received: from kki.net.pl (Wembley@ppp65.slupsk.tpnet.pl [194.204.177.65] (may be forged))
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  16189.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 23:48:32 +0100
  16190. From: Pawel Golebiewski <wembley@kki.net.pl>
  16191. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  16192. Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 23:41:31 +0300
  16193. Message-ID: <yam7378.1554.19907024@kki.net.pl>
  16194. In-Reply-To: <yam7377.2484.136910200@friko.onet.pl>
  16195. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  16196. Subject: Re: ISO
  16197. MIME-Version: 1.0
  16198. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
  16199. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  16200.  
  16201. Dnia 14-Mar-98, Micha=EE Bujak napisa=EE:
  16202. >Pytanko do pecetowcow :) (I nie tylko :)))
  16203. Sadze ze 99,99 % pecetowcow nie potrafi odpowiedziec na twoje pytania ;)
  16204.  
  16205. >Przegrywam pliki z Amigi na peceta z zachowaniem dlugich nazw (crossDos7=
  16206. =2E01)
  16207. >Mam teraz na blaszaku dlugie nazwy Amigowe...
  16208. >Jakich opcji i w jakim programie do nagrywania plyt na pc uzyc aby amiga=
  16209.  tak
  16210. >nagrana plyte widziala z dlugimi nazwami ???(w sposob standardowy na Ami=
  16211.  =
  16212.  
  16213. >mam xxxxxx~1 :(((
  16214. Tego to nie rozumie... Nagrywasz na pc dlugie nazwy, a na Amidze
  16215. masz krotkie ???
  16216.  
  16217. >Wiem ze ma to cos wspolnego z formatami ISO ale szkoda mi plyt aby
  16218. >eksperymentowac :)
  16219. Najlepiej najpierw stworz jakies ISO na pc i przetestuj je na Amidze
  16220. (cdrom-emu) - to dziala !
  16221.  
  16222. >Inny sposob to zrobienie pliku ISO na Amidze ale jakim programem na pc t=
  16223. o iso
  16224. >nagrac???
  16225. Oczywiscie - to bedzie 100% pewnosci !
  16226.  
  16227. >EasyCD stare to potrafilo ale nie widzi nowych nagrywarek i qpa! Nowy na=
  16228. gral
  16229. >ISO ale nic go nie widzi (tej plyty) ani PC ani MAC ani Amiga :( Nosnik =
  16230. do
  16231. kosza
  16232. Sadze ze kazdy program to potrafi. Musisz po porostu dodac ISO jako
  16233. CD-ROM Track. Jesli masz np. ToGo (popularny), to na pewno to zrobisz.
  16234. Mi jeszcze ni padla zadna plyta nagrywana z ISO (dlugie nazwy, polskie zn=
  16235. aki).
  16236.  
  16237. -- =
  16238.  
  16239. *-----------------------------------------------------------*
  16240.       \|/            #Pawel Golebiewski#            \|/      =
  16241.  
  16242.      (=A9_=A9)          #Catv Josat Czluchow#          (=A9_=A9)     =
  16243.  
  16244. -oOO--(O)--OOo-   mail:wembley@kki.net.pl   -oOO--(O)--OOo-
  16245. *-----------------------------------------------------------*
  16246. A1200T/040/25MHz/18MB/1.6GB/1.76MB/CDROM/M1438S/LJIII/33600
  16247.  
  16248. From owner-amigapl  Mon Mar 16 00:24:48 1998
  16249. Received: from www.kki.net.pl (www.kki.net.pl [195.116.9.70]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA02546 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 00:10:53 +0100 (MET)
  16250. Received: from kki.net.pl (AKM-MAYA@pppb110.szczecin.tpnet.pl [195.205.239.110])
  16251.     by www.kki.net.pl (8.8.7/8.8.7.ver6) with SMTP id AAA18724
  16252.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 00:11:10 +0100
  16253. From: Adam Majewski <akmmaya@kki.net.pl>
  16254. Reply-To: akmmaya@kki.net.pl
  16255. To: WFMH-AmigaPL <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  16256. Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 20:04:05 +0100
  16257. Message-ID: <yam7378.294.1747479280@kki.net.pl>
  16258. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  16259. Subject: real audio
  16260. MIME-Version: 1.0
  16261. X-ISO-CONVERTED: Yam_ISO2 1.06 (17.11.97) (c) Silver Dream !
  16262. X-YAMISO-UPDATE: ftp://wfmh.org.pl/pub/yam_iso2/
  16263. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  16264. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  16265.  
  16266. Cze=B6=E6 wszystkim !
  16267.  
  16268. Mam jedno pytanie:
  16269.  
  16270. Czy istnieje co=B6 (przegl=B1darka, nak=B3adka na przegl=B1dark=EA, co=B6=
  16271.  innego) co
  16272. pozwala korzysta=E6 z us=B3ugi REAL AUDIO?
  16273.  
  16274. Nie wierz=EA, aby amiga by=B3a zbyt wolna (040/060) na
  16275. odtwa=BFanie tego typu danych. Je=B6li ju=BF co=B6 istnieje to prosz=EA n=
  16276. apisa=E6 co
  16277. i gdzie to mo=BFna zdoby=E6, a je=B6li nie to mo=BFe kto=B6 by co=B6 taki=
  16278. ego
  16279. napisa=B3 :^)
  16280.  
  16281. -- =
  16282.  
  16283. Pozdrawiam :-)
  16284.  
  16285. mailto: akmmaya@kki.net.pl
  16286. www: http://www.kki.net.pl/akmmaya
  16287.  
  16288. :-)  w=F3wren  eibos  juCP  ein  (-:
  16289.                                                            Adam Majewski
  16290.  
  16291.  
  16292.  
  16293. From owner-amigapl  Mon Mar 16 00:24:55 1998
  16294. Received: from hermes.telbank.pl (vena.telbank.pl [195.136.250.210]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA02478 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 23:57:17 +0100 (MET)
  16295. Received: from bptnet.pl ([195.136.250.24]) by hermes.telbank.pl
  16296.           (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2 release (PO205-101c)
  16297.           ID# 164-43612U3000L100S0) with SMTP id AAH131
  16298.           for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 23:59:44 +0100
  16299. From: "Marek Szymanski" <szymanski@bptnet.pl>
  16300. Reply-To: tagor@wfmh.org.pl
  16301. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  16302. Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 22:30:38 +0100
  16303. Message-ID: <yam7378.1914.2014563040@vena.telbank.pl>
  16304. In-Reply-To: <yam7376.189.18363768@friko2.onet.pl>
  16305. X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview3 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
  16306. Organization: WFMH
  16307. Subject: Re: MIAMI,YAM,browsery
  16308. MIME-Version: 1.0
  16309. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  16310. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  16311.  
  16312. Cze=B6=E6 Andrzej,
  16313.  =
  16314.  
  16315. On 13-Mar-98, Andrzej 'Killer' Kielar wrote: =
  16316.  
  16317.  
  16318. > CZE=B6=EA!!!
  16319.  
  16320. > Czy mo=BFna w jednej chwili:
  16321. > a) =B6ci=B1ga=EA plik z sieci
  16322. > b) pobiera=EA poczt=EA
  16323. > Czy nie nast=B1pi jakie=B6 przeci=B1=BFenie lini cy c=F3=B6 ?
  16324. > Czy w takim przypadku transfer danych bardzo spadnie ?
  16325. Ja nie mam poj=EAcia jak to teoretycznie wygl=B1da, ale cz=EAsto zasysam
  16326. co=B6=A0przez ftp, jednocze=B6nie =B6ci=B1gaj=B1c poczt=EA (np. dzi=B6, p=
  16327. o weekendzie
  16328. 110
  16329. list=F3w) i jednocze=B6nie pcha=E6 si=EA na jak=B1=B6 stron=EA www. Kompu=
  16330. ter ani
  16331. modem mi nie wysiad=B3 :-). Podgl=B1daj=B1c MiamiMonitorem transfer
  16332. ca=B3kowity nie odbiega raczej od tego, gdy korzystam tylko z jednej
  16333. us=B3ugi. =
  16334.  
  16335.  
  16336. Pozdrawiam.
  16337. -- =
  16338.  
  16339. Marek SZYMANSKI  Team *AMIGA*
  16340.     mailto:tagor@wfmh.org.pl
  16341.  
  16342. From owner-amigapl  Mon Mar 16 00:25:03 1998
  16343. Received: from opnt.optimus.wroc.pl (opnt.optimus.wroc.pl [195.117.195.3]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA02515 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 00:01:50 +0100 (MET)
  16344. Received: from opnt.optimus.wroc.pl (unverified [195.116.164.25]) by opnt.optimus.wroc.pl
  16345.  (EMWAC SMTPRS 0.83) with SMTP id <B0000074717@opnt.optimus.wroc.pl>;
  16346.  Mon, 16 Mar 1998 00:00:49 +0100
  16347. From: Maciej Matyka <maq@opnt.optimus.wroc.pl>
  16348. To: amigapl@amiga.com.pl
  16349. CC: miko@student.man.radom.pl
  16350. Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 00:01:02 +0100
  16351. Message-ID: <yam7379.149.2014633344@opnt.optimus.wroc.pl>
  16352. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  16353. Subject: re: mUSASHI and AmigaOS
  16354. MIME-Version: 1.0
  16355. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
  16356. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  16357.  
  16358.  
  16359. Witam!
  16360.  
  16361. >Wprowadzenie:
  16362. >ACS 1/98 s. 25
  16363. >"mUSASHI:Ot=F3rz...Sama Amiga ma CHORY system operacyjny (w por=F3wnaniu=
  16364.  do
  16365. >innych)"
  16366.  
  16367. Pierwsza sprawa (ktora nie powinna byc tu poruszana, ale jednak troche ku=
  16368. ltury
  16369. przyda sie nam wszystkim) - temat ten byl juz poruszany nie raz - pisanie=
  16370.  
  16371. ksywy kogokolwiek z malej litery, rozumiem - w przypadku, kiedy rzeczywis=
  16372. cie
  16373. mamy jakis "problem" do kogos - nie ma sprawy, ale w tym przypadku Musash=
  16374. i po
  16375. prostu wyrazil swoja opinie (a to mu wolno) i nikogo nie obrazil - w
  16376. szczegolnosci Ciebie! =
  16377.  
  16378.  
  16379. >Mo=BFna to traktowa=E6 jako obraza.
  16380.  
  16381. Ale chyba nie Ciebie?
  16382.  
  16383. > Ja uwa=BFam, =BFe powinno=B6ci=B1 redaktora
  16384. >(Macieja Matyki) by=B3o kontynuowa=E6 ten temat. Lecz jego chyba zatka=B3=
  16385. o.
  16386.  
  16387. Kontynuowalem, jednak poza samym wywiadem. Stwierdzilem, ze ogol odbiorco=
  16388. w ACS
  16389. nie bedzie tym szczegolnie zainteresowany, a kogos takiego jak Ty skloni =
  16390. do
  16391. nawiazania kontaktu z Musashim (z czego bylbym b. zadowolony, on zreszta =
  16392. tez).
  16393. Sam wywiad w finalnej wersji zajmowal grubo powyzej jednej strony - niest=
  16394. ety
  16395. musial wejsc na strone i wydaje mi sie, ze w pierwszej kolejnosci obciete=
  16396.  
  16397. zostalyby wywody na temat systemu operacyjnego Amigi, poniewaz wywiad mia=
  16398. l
  16399. dotyczyc osoby Musashiego, a nie AmigaOS.
  16400.  
  16401. > Mnie
  16402. >zatka=B3o. Mo=BFe kto=B6 z czytaj=B1cych zna tego filozofa i spyta si=EA=
  16403.  go o co mu
  16404. >chodzi=B3o?
  16405.  
  16406. Moze przestanmy traktowac go z pogarda - to wielki czlowiek, ktorego zasl=
  16407. ugi
  16408. mozna by dlugo wymieniac, nie zmieni tego troche skrzywiony (niestety...)=
  16409.  
  16410. obraz jego osoby przedstawiony w ACS (stad pewnie ten filozof...) - wiec
  16411. mysle, ze i Ty mozesz zaczac go traktowac z szacunkiem (szczegolnie, ze j=
  16412. ak
  16413. widze po prostu go nie znasz)
  16414.  
  16415. > Ja bynajmniej chia=B3bym wiedzie=E6 w czym AmigaOS
  16416. >(multitasting) odstaje od innych i jakich? Oczywi=B6cie same konkrety.
  16417.  
  16418. Juz mowie (same konkrety :) - slowami Musashiego i troche swoimi (tak sie=
  16419.  
  16420. sklada, ze tez troche koduje i programuje). Jest tylko jedna choroba
  16421. AmigaOS-a. Wszyscy o niej wiemy - Ty na pewno tez. Ten wspanialy,
  16422. wielozadaniowy, elastyczny, przyjazny system operacyjny NIE MA OCHRONY PA=
  16423. MIECI
  16424. (slowa Musashiego). Nie pomoze tu wymienianie nastepnych zalet tego syste=
  16425. mu -
  16426. nie umywaja sie one do tego wlasnie bledu (chyba mozna to tak nazwac) -
  16427. poniewaz uniemozliwia on zachowanie stabilnosci systemu, a ta sprawa chyb=
  16428. a
  16429. jest b.wazna? Dlaczego odstaje od innych? Poniewaz nie ma (i tu - mowie t=
  16430. o ze
  16431. wstydem ja moge sie mylic, poniewaz nie znam niestety kazdego systemu
  16432. operacyjnego tak dobrze jak AmigaOS) prawdopodobnie innego OS-a, ktory ni=
  16433. e
  16434. posiadalby ochrony pamieci.
  16435.  
  16436. Rozmawialem z nim o tym - stwierdzil, ze moge to przeredagowac, jesli mi =
  16437. to
  16438. nie pasuje. Stwierdzilem jednak, ze nie bede za bardzo ingerowal w jego
  16439. wypowiedz - to mial byc wywiad, nie cukiereczkowate opowiadanko o starym
  16440. scenowcu. Dosszlo do mnie juz wiele sygnalow na temat tego co powiedzial
  16441. Musashi. Cieszy fakt, ze czytelnicy bacznie zwracaja uwage na to co czyta=
  16442. ja,
  16443. smuci - ze zaden z tych sygnalow nie dotarl ani do mnie, ani do ACS ani t=
  16444. ym
  16445. bardziej do Musashiego.
  16446.  
  16447. >- z powa=BFaniem
  16448.  
  16449. klocilbym sie...
  16450.  
  16451. >MiKO
  16452.  
  16453. W przypadku ewentualnych odpowiedzi na tego maila - prosze o /fwd na kont=
  16454. o
  16455. maq@opnt.optimus.wroc.pl, poniewaz na razie nie moge sledzic bezposrednio=
  16456.  tego
  16457. co dzieje sie na liscie.
  16458.  
  16459. A Ciebie Miko, oraz innych zainteresowanych ww wypowiedzia Musashiego,
  16460. zapraszam do dyskusji z samym zainteresowanym - jego email:
  16461. musashi@union.org.pl
  16462.  
  16463. pozdrawiam,
  16464.  
  16465. /// MaQ (Maciej Matyka)
  16466.  
  16467. ps. sorry Marcin - musalem ;)
  16468.  
  16469. -- =
  16470.  
  16471.                                    "AMIGA COMPUTER STUDIO"
  16472. Maciej Matyka | MaQ of GENETIC | scene coding * progamming
  16473. Amiga 1200/030.50/10MB/HD340MB | maq@opnt.optimus.wroc.pl
  16474. "Don't worry - nobody lives forever!"
  16475.  
  16476. From owner-amigapl  Mon Mar 16 02:54:48 1998
  16477. Received: from box43.gnet.pl (box43.gnet.pl [195.117.182.3]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id CAA04619 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 02:26:17 +0100 (MET)
  16478. Received: from box43.gnet.pl (radmar@ppp194.gorzow.tpnet.pl [195.116.254.194])
  16479.     by box43.gnet.pl (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id CAA29927
  16480.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 02:25:38 +0100 (CET)
  16481. From: "Marcin (radmar) Wasilewski" <radmar@box43.gnet.pl>
  16482. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  16483. Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 22:02:08 +0200
  16484. Message-ID: <yam7378.418.1747621712@box43.gnet.pl>
  16485. In-Reply-To: <yam7378.2726.508614880@kki.net.pl>
  16486. X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
  16487. Subject: Re: YAM i Miami nie =?iso-8859-1?Q?pracuj=E2?= poprawnie z moim kontem na SHACO.PL - Help Me !
  16488. MIME-Version: 1.0
  16489. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  16490. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
  16491.  
  16492. Dnia 15-Mar-98, Leszek Swiatek napisal:
  16493. > Moje pytanie jest takie: czy kto¶ z was czcigodni, mia³ ju¿ taki problem z
  16494. > YAM'em lub providerem ?
  16495. >
  16496. > Uwaga!
  16497. >   Proszê nie wysy³aê tzw. dobrych rad dot. np. konfiguracji tego czy tamtego
  16498. > je¶li nie do¶wiadczy³e¶ takiego problemu - (próbowa³em na wiele sposobów
  16499. > konfigurowaê YAM'a i Miami ale to tylko sprawia ¿e p³acê wiêcej TPsie).
  16500. >
  16501. > pozdrawiam, Janusz
  16502.  
  16503.      Cze¶æ te¿ jestem z Gorzowa i te¿ kiedy¶ mia³em konto na serwerze KAMu.
  16504. Tymi serwerami zarz±dza ten sam administrator - Mariusz jaki¶ tam. W ka¿dym
  16505. b±d¼ razie jego adres to mariusz@shaco.pl. Problemy ze ¶ci±ganiem poczty
  16506. rozpoczê³y siê w momenie gdy ten cz³ek zmieni³ oprogramowanie na jakie¶
  16507. posiadaj±ce zabezpieczenie przed przechwyceniem poczty.
  16508.      Objawy by³y nast.: Przy ¶ci±ganiu poczty YAM pokazywa³ mi, ¿e jest np.
  16509. 300 maili poczym ¶ci±ga³ np. 10 i koñczy³ sesje. Gdy wys³a³em do siebie list
  16510. to by³ on mo¿liwy do ¶ci±gniêcia po powiedzmy 2 dniach. Ogólnie polega³o to
  16511. na tym, ¿e wiêcej listów wp³ywa³o na konto ni¿ by³o mo¿liwe do ¶ci±gniêcia.
  16512.      Gdy wp³ywa³y nowe maile te stare by³y wypychane a reszta dalej zalega³a
  16513. na koncie.
  16514.      Gdy powiadomi³em go o tych problemach stwierdzi³, ¿e gdy próbnie
  16515. ¶ci±gn±³ pocztê z mojego konta to wszystko by³o pod windowsami OK. i mo¿e
  16516. mnie zaprosiæ do firmy na demonstracje. Gdy napisa³em mu, ¿e mam Amigê
  16517. stwierdzi³, ¿ebym sobie zmieni³ komputer, bo Amiga do I-netu to siê wogóle
  16518. nie nadaje.  Wkurw.. rozpocze³em atak Winkillerem - taki progs do wieszania
  16519. windy.  Po 3 dniach zamkneli mi konto i straszyli s±dem ale w koñcu
  16520. odpu¶cili sobie i tak siê zakoñczy³y moje kontakty z tym providerem.
  16521.      Jest program pod Amigê, który sobie radzi z tym ich pojeb.. serwerem
  16522. POP, zwie siê on THOR jest trochê zamieszany, ale mo¿na siê do niego
  16523. przyzwyczaiæ, jakby co to porad¼ siê Yoyo - jest on GURU tego programu
  16524. ostatnio nawet zrobi³ polskie locale do tego mailera.
  16525.  Ja mia³em taki dym ze shaco i kamem, ¿e mam u nich przechlapane a gdy widzê
  16526. czasami w³a¶ciciela KAMu - mam u nich kablówkê to dalej nie mo¿e na mnie
  16527. patrzeæ. Gdy zwróci³em siê do szefa SHACO aby mi za³o¿y³ konto to my¶la³em,
  16528. ¿e mnie wzrokiem zabije :))) i stwierdzi³, ¿ebym tu wiêcej nie przychodzi³.
  16529.  
  16530. --
  16531.      Marcin (Radmar) Wasilewski
  16532.         radmar@box43.gnet.pl
  16533.  
  16534. A1260T/18Mb./3.2G HDD/NEC 4x4 CD-ROM
  16535.  
  16536.  
  16537.  
  16538.  
  16539. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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  16544.  
  16545.  
  16546. From owner-amigapl  Mon Mar 16 02:54:55 1998
  16547. Received: from box43.gnet.pl (box43.gnet.pl [195.117.182.3]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id CAA04617 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 02:26:08 +0100 (MET)
  16548. Received: from box43.gnet.pl (radmar@ppp194.gorzow.tpnet.pl [195.116.254.194])
  16549.     by box43.gnet.pl (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id CAA29923
  16550.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 02:25:28 +0100 (CET)
  16551. From: "Marcin (radmar) Wasilewski" <radmar@box43.gnet.pl>
  16552. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  16553. Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 21:22:50 +0200
  16554. Message-ID: <yam7378.2539.1747621712@box43.gnet.pl>
  16555. In-Reply-To: <1050.377T1716T7431820@silesia.top.pl>
  16556. X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
  16557. Subject: Re[2]: PPC do A1200
  16558. MIME-Version: 1.0
  16559. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  16560. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
  16561.  
  16562. >
  16563. > A ja mam problem - co kupiæ? Chodzi g³ównie o processor 68k. W tej chwili
  16564. > mam 040/40 i nie wystarcza. Programów na PPC jeszcze niewiele, wiêc czy
  16565. > inwestowaæ w 060/50, czy mo¿e kupiæ bez procesora i prze³o¿yæ z Blizzarda?
  16566. > Szkoda karty, któr± mo¿na by sprzedaæ, ale z drugiej strony PPC z 060
  16567. > kosztuje znacznie wiêcej. Gdyby tylko by³y PPC z 040/40...
  16568. >
  16569.      Cze¶æ Yoyo !!!
  16570.  
  16571.      Je¶li masz do¶æ kasy to radzê kupiæ z prockiem 060. 060/50 jest
  16572. oko³o 3 razy szybszy od 040/40. Wiem, ¿e bawisz siê odtwarzaniem
  16573. mp3. Na 060 odtwarzanie mpega: 44100khz/AHI 14bit-stereo(Hi-Fi)
  16574. zajmuje oko³o 50-60 % czasu procesora wiêc w tym czasie mo¿esz sobie
  16575. jeszcze przegl±daæ WWW w i-necie i ¶ci±gaæ pocztê - sam tak czêsto robiê :).
  16576.  
  16577.  
  16578. -- 
  16579.      Marcin (Radmar) Wasilewski
  16580.         radmar@box43.gnet.pl
  16581.  
  16582. A1260T/18Mb./3.2G HDD/NEC 4x4 CD-ROM
  16583.  
  16584.  
  16585.  
  16586.  
  16587. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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  16589.        Darmowe konta pocztowe w sieci GETIN. http://box43.gnet.pl
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  16591. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  16592.  
  16593.  
  16594. From owner-amigapl  Mon Mar 16 08:54:46 1998
  16595. Received: from www.kki.net.pl (www.kki.net.pl [195.116.9.70]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA04991 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 08:47:22 +0100 (MET)
  16596. Received: from kki.net.pl (ppp96.zgora.tpnet.pl [195.116.244.96])
  16597.     by www.kki.net.pl (8.8.7/8.8.7.ver6) with SMTP id IAA22058
  16598.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 08:47:12 +0100
  16599. From: Irek <irekm@kki.net.pl>
  16600. Reply-To: Irek <irekm@kki.net.pl>
  16601. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  16602. Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 09:28:04 -0500
  16603. Message-ID: <yam7379.244.2690648@kki.net.pl>
  16604. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.3a [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  16605. Subject: Re: MIDI
  16606. MIME-Version: 1.0
  16607. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  16608. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  16609.  
  16610. Dnia 15-Mar-98, Tomasz Mazur napisa=EE:
  16611. > Uwaga!
  16612. >Potrzebny jest jakikolwiek sterownik do skanera stacjonarnego
  16613. >podlaczanego przez parallel port.(no scsi)
  16614. >Bardzo bym prosil o kontakt na priva.
  16615. >oplaaa
  16616.  
  16617. Je=BFeli by mo=BFna to nie tylko na priva, bo i mnie interesuje ten probl=
  16618. em
  16619. (nigdzie jeszcze nie dowiedzia=B3em si=EA czy jest program kt=F3ry obs=B3=
  16620. u=BFy skaner
  16621. w Amy przez parallela), tak wi=EAc je=BFeli kto=B6 co=B6 wiedzia=B3by na =
  16622. ten temat
  16623. to niech daje zna=E6...
  16624.  
  16625. ps. ten skaner to Primax (taki tani stacjonarny A4 do piecyka :)
  16626.  
  16627. Hej!
  16628.  
  16629. -- =
  16630.  
  16631. e-mail: irekm@friko.onet.pl      __
  16632. e-mail: irekm@kki.net.pl        // \   HTTP: on prepare
  16633. *Easy work?   - on Amiga*         \__          A1k2+850MB+4MB+CDx8+28800
  16634. *Best system? - on Amiga*            \
  16635. *BIG TROUBLE? - on PC...*         \_// NOWMAN - Amiga Fan 4ever !
  16636.  
  16637. From owner-amigapl  Mon Mar 16 08:54:57 1998
  16638. Received: from www.kki.net.pl (www.kki.net.pl [195.116.9.70]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA04993 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 08:47:39 +0100 (MET)
  16639. Received: from kki.net.pl (ppp96.zgora.tpnet.pl [195.116.244.96])
  16640.     by www.kki.net.pl (8.8.7/8.8.7.ver6) with SMTP id IAA22043
  16641.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 08:47:08 +0100
  16642. From: Irek <irekm@kki.net.pl>
  16643. Reply-To: Irek <irekm@kki.net.pl>
  16644. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  16645. Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 09:25:36 -0500
  16646. Message-ID: <yam7379.1838.2690648@kki.net.pl>
  16647. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.3a [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  16648. Subject: Re: real audio
  16649. MIME-Version: 1.0
  16650. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  16651. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  16652.  
  16653. Dnia 15-Mar-98, Adam Majewski napisa=EE:
  16654. >Cze=B6=E6 wszystkim !
  16655.  
  16656. >Mam jedno pytanie:
  16657.  
  16658. >Czy istnieje co=B6 (przegl=B1darka, nak=B3adka na przegl=B1dark=EA, co=B6=
  16659.  innego) co
  16660. >pozwala korzysta=E6 z us=B3ugi REAL AUDIO?
  16661. Jest ju=BF programik na Am kt=F3ry odtwarza RealAudio, ale nie wiem czy
  16662. b=EAdzie dzia=B3a=B3 na przegl=B1darce (chocia=BF jest do tego dodany naw=
  16663. et jaki=B6
  16664. skrypt AREXXa), bo programik ten potrzebuje parametr=F3w z CLI. Ale dla
  16665. chc=B1cego nic trudnego. Nie wiem tylko czy odtworzy=B3by np. RealAudio w=
  16666.  
  16667. czasie rzeczywistym od razu ze strony (bo jako jeden z parametr=F3w podaj=
  16668. emy
  16669. mu nazw=EA pliku RealAudio z rozszerzeniem *.ra). Chodzi mi tu np. o
  16670. s=B3uchanie np. radia przez internet...
  16671.  
  16672. >Nie wierz=EA, aby amiga by=B3a zbyt wolna (040/060) na
  16673. >odtwa=BFanie tego typu danych. Je=B6li ju=BF co=B6 istnieje to prosz=EA =
  16674. napisa=E6 co
  16675. >i gdzie to mo=BFna zdoby=E6, a je=B6li nie to mo=BFe kto=B6 by co=B6 tak=
  16676. iego
  16677. >napisa=B3 :^)
  16678. Nie jest za wolna, poza tym potrzebuje jeszcze tylko programiku Play16 do=
  16679.  
  16680. g=B3=F3wnego odtworzenia RealAudio stream'u..
  16681.  
  16682. Nara!
  16683.  
  16684. -- =
  16685.  
  16686. e-mail: irekm@friko.onet.pl      __
  16687. e-mail: irekm@kki.net.pl        // \   HTTP: on prepare
  16688. *Easy work?   - on Amiga*         \__          A1k2+850MB+4MB+CDx8+28800
  16689. *Best system? - on Amiga*            \
  16690. *BIG TROUBLE? - on PC...*         \_// NOWMAN - Amiga Fan 4ever !
  16691.  
  16692. From owner-amigapl  Mon Mar 16 09:13:49 1998
  16693. Received: from localhost (carlos@localhost) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA05056 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 09:13:48 +0100 (MET)
  16694. Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 09:13:47 +0100 (MET)
  16695. From: Marcin Orlowski <carlos@amiga.com.pl>
  16696. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  16697. Subject: Re: real audio
  16698. In-Reply-To: <yam7378.294.1747479280@kki.net.pl>
  16699. Message-ID: <Pine.NEB.3.96.980316091135.5026B-100000@amiga.com.pl>
  16700. MIME-Version: 1.0
  16701. Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
  16702. Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE
  16703.  
  16704. On Sun, 15 Mar 1998, Adam Majewski wrote:
  16705.  
  16706. > Nie wierz=EA, aby amiga by=B3a zbyt wolna (040/060) na
  16707. > odtwa=BFanie tego typu danych. Je=B6li ju=BF co=B6 istnieje to prosz=EA n=
  16708. apisa=E6 co
  16709. > i gdzie to mo=BFna zdoby=E6, a je=B6li nie to mo=BFe kto=B6 by co=B6 taki=
  16710. ego
  16711. > napisa=B3 :^)
  16712.  
  16713. Standardowo Aminet (unrealaudio) i odsylacz na AWD do RA dla amigi.
  16714.  
  16715. --
  16716.  Daddy, what FORMATTING DRIVE C: means?
  16717.  
  16718.  Marcin                     mailto:carlos@amiga.com.pl
  16719.                               http://www.wfmh.org.pl
  16720.  
  16721.  
  16722. From owner-amigapl  Mon Mar 16 09:24:46 1998
  16723. Received: from zskl.p.lodz.pl (root@zskl.p.lodz.pl [194.181.171.3]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA05068 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 09:21:23 +0100 (MET)
  16724. Received: from ck-st1.p.lodz.pl (kaczus@ck-st1.p.lodz.pl [193.59.44.219]) by zskl.p.lodz.pl (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA26563 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 09:20:31 +0100
  16725. Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 09:20:31 +0100
  16726. Message-Id: <199803160820.JAA26563@zskl.p.lodz.pl>
  16727. X-Sender: kaczus@kki.net.pl
  16728. X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2
  16729. Mime-Version: 1.0
  16730. Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
  16731. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  16732. From: Tomasz Kaczanowski <kaczus@kki.net.pl>
  16733. Subject: Re: Zasilacze i reszta
  16734.  
  16735. At 14:03 98-03-14 +0100, you wrote:
  16736. >Pierwsza sprawa to zasilacze. W zaleznosci od sklepu ceny ksztaltuja sie od
  16737. >25 zl do 90 zl (200W). Czym jeden moze sie roznic od inszego?
  16738. cena :))
  16739.  
  16740. > Czy wielka filozofia jest zrobic przelotke z zasilacza pc, aby
  16741. >mogl zasilac A1200?
  16742. Musisz miec wtyczke taka jak ma Amiga i - sekund piec przerobka :))
  16743. (sprawdz tylko, aby odpowiednio polaczyc kabelki - opis byl w jednym ze
  16744. starych Amigowcow
  16745.  
  16746. >Czy zwykla obudowa miditower od pc (np: ATX), pasuje do plyty A1200, czy trza
  16747. Jedynie po przerobkach, troche trzeba zmienic wyglad takiej wierzy, ale 
  16748. wtedy polecam raczej Big - towerka - nieduza roznica w cenia, a wiecej
  16749. miejsca na kombinowanie
  16750. >bedzie wiercic, ciac etc.?
  16751. tak
  16752. >Czy finansowo w ogole jest to uzasadnione? Obudowy do pc tez tanie nie sa.
  16753.  
  16754. Swojego czasu sie oplacalo - nie wiem jak dzisiaj, mnie cala taka operacja
  16755. kosztowala
  16756. rok temu polowe tego co musialbym wydac na Infinitiv
  16757.  
  16758. Kaczus of BlaBla
  16759.  
  16760.  
  16761. From owner-amigapl  Mon Mar 16 09:54:47 1998
  16762. Received: from iftia6.univ.gda.pl (iftia6.univ.gda.pl [153.19.6.6]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA05176 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 09:45:31 +0100 (MET)
  16763. Received: from ppp201b.gdansk.tpnet.pl by iftia6.univ.gda.pl with SMTP
  16764.     (1.38.193.4/16.2) id AA19546; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 09:56:43 +0100
  16765. From: Marcin Ostrowski <amizaur@box43.gnet.pl>
  16766. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  16767. Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 02:54:16 +0100
  16768. Message-Id: <yam7379.829.2656184@box43.gnet.pl>
  16769. In-Reply-To: <yam7377.1185.505802328@wfmh.org.pl>
  16770. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  16771. Subject: Re: Zasilacze i reszta
  16772. Mime-Version: 1.0
  16773. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  16774. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  16775.  
  16776. Dnia 14-Mar-98, Piotr Legiecki napisa=EE:
  16777. >Czesc
  16778.  
  16779. >Czy wielka filozofia jest zrobic przelotke z zasilacza pc,
  16780. >aby mogl zasilac A1200? W szczegolnosci pytanie do posiadaczy
  16781. >mikronikowych wiez, bo owa firma oferuje jakowys adapter
  16782. >zasilania do Tower (tak to sie zwie).
  16783. >Czy to taka wlasnie przelotka?
  16784.  
  16785. Przelotka? Ja bym sie po prostu wlutowal w bolce od zasilania
  16786. na plycie Amigi. Nie wiem jak z zasilaniem odlaczanym, =
  16787.  
  16788. gniazdko z Ami jest chyba na zewnatrz, wiec odpada? Gdzie sie te
  16789. przelotke micronikowa podlacza? Podlaczyc w to miejsce piechota,
  16790. bez przelotki, ewentualnie wymyslic jakas zlaczke na kablu =
  16791.  
  16792. zeby sie dalo odpiac bez odlutowywania. =
  16793.  
  16794.  
  16795. -- =
  16796.  
  16797.  
  16798.                              Marcin Ostrowski
  16799.                        A1200/030/882/28/10Mb/170Mb
  16800.                           High-Radiation C1085S
  16801.                                modem 28800
  16802.  
  16803.  
  16804.                                     mailto:amizaur@box43.gnet.pl
  16805.  
  16806. From owner-amigapl  Mon Mar 16 09:55:01 1998
  16807. Received: from iftia6.univ.gda.pl (iftia6.univ.gda.pl [153.19.6.6]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA05174 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 09:45:29 +0100 (MET)
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  16809.     (1.38.193.4/16.2) id AA19544; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 09:56:40 +0100
  16810. From: Marcin Ostrowski <amizaur@box43.gnet.pl>
  16811. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  16812. Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 02:40:11 +0100
  16813. Message-Id: <yam7379.563.2656184@box43.gnet.pl>
  16814. In-Reply-To: <1050.377T1716T7431820@silesia.top.pl>
  16815. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  16816. Subject: Re: PPC do A1200
  16817. Mime-Version: 1.0
  16818. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  16819. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  16820.  
  16821. Dnia 14-Mar-98, Grzegorz Juraszek napisa=EE:
  16822.  
  16823.  
  16824. >A ja mam problem - co kupi=E6?  Chodzi g=B3=F3wnie o processor 68k.  W
  16825. >tej chwili mam 040/40 i nie wystarcza.  Program=F3w na PPC jeszcze
  16826. >niewiele, wi=EAc czy inwestowa=E6 w 060/50, czy mo=BFe kupi=E6 bez
  16827. >procesora i prze=B3o=BFy=E6 z Blizzarda?  Szkoda karty, kt=F3r=B1 mo=BFn=
  16828. a by
  16829. >sprzeda=E6, ale z drugiej strony PPC z 060 kosztuje znacznie
  16830. >wi=EAcej.  Gdyby tylko by=B3y PPC z 040/40...
  16831.  
  16832. Ciekawe jakie tam beda te 040, czy sie dadza podkrecic?  A co do
  16833. 060, to chyba zamiast wyluskiwac procesor z 1260 lepiej ja
  16834. sprzedac w calosci i kupic PPC z 060, mam wrazenie ze lepiej na
  16835. tym wyjdziesz.  Co prawda Phase5 liczy sobie za 060 14 - 15
  16836. baniek, ale za karte dostaniesz...  Wiesz, chyba masz racje, to
  16837. rzeczywiscie prawie to samo :(((.  Najlepiej byloby dostac gdzies
  16838. goly 060 za rozsadna cene i wlozyc do golej karty, a 1260
  16839. sprzedac.  Czy zadna firma (Elbox np.) nie sprzedzaje 060-tek?
  16840. Bo miec to raczej maja...
  16841.  
  16842. --
  16843.  
  16844.                              Marcin Ostrowski
  16845.                        A1200/030/882/28/10Mb/170Mb
  16846.                           High-Radiation C1085S
  16847.                                modem 28800
  16848.  
  16849.  
  16850.                                     mailto:amizaur@box43.gnet.pl
  16851.  
  16852. From owner-amigapl  Mon Mar 16 11:54:47 1998
  16853. Received: from gryzmak.lodz.pdi.net (gryzmak.lodz.pdi.net [195.116.162.1]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA05496 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 11:37:38 +0100 (MET)
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  16855.     by gryzmak.lodz.pdi.net (8.8.7/2.1.1/L) id LAA03143;
  16856.     Mon, 16 Mar 1998 11:36:17 +0100
  16857. Message-ID: <19980316113617.49719@plukwa.pdi.net>
  16858. Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 11:36:17 +0100
  16859. From: Artur Pietruk <arturp@plukwa.pdi.net>
  16860. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  16861. Subject: Re: Jaki HD i NetBSD vs. Linux...
  16862. References: <yam7376.378.1747994368@easymail.it.pl>
  16863. Mime-Version: 1.0
  16864. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
  16865. X-Mailer: Mutt 0.83
  16866. In-Reply-To: <yam7376.378.1747994368@easymail.it.pl>; from Piotr Wojciechowski on Fri, Mar 13, 1998 at 04:59:07PM +0100
  16867.  
  16868. On Fri, Mar 13, 1998 at 04:59:07PM +0100, Piotr Wojciechowski wrote:
  16869. > 1) Zamierzam w najblizszych dniach kupic noewgo HD'ka.. Mysle o jakis 3.2GB
  16870. > - czy nie bede mial z tym zadnych problemow z Amy (nie powinno byc, ale czy
  16871. > cos moze wystapic ??). Jakie byscie polecali i dlaczego...  Ma ktos moze
  16872. > wejscia na nowe, lecz tansze takie maszynki (IDE) :) ???
  16873.  
  16874.     Ja mam taki dysk - na jadna partycja 50Mb na system, 200Mb na
  16875. MacOs, a trzecia partycja to vo zostalo :-). Nie ma zadnego problemu.
  16876.  
  16877.     Pozdrawia:
  16878.  
  16879. -- 
  16880. -------------------------------------------------------------------
  16881. - Who  : Artur Pietruk - WebMaster @ PDi - www.pdi.net -      /// -
  16882. - Email: arturp@pdi.net IRC: APair TEL: +48 44 7140906 -     ///  -
  16883. - Snail: ul.11 listopada 33a/19 97-140 Koluszki POLAND - \\\///   -
  16884. - Using: AMIGA 4000/40 CV64-3D, A1240T                 -  \\//    -
  16885.  
  16886.         PGP public key - finger arturp@gryzmak.lodz.pdi.net
  16887.                 "My webpage exist - I've seen it!"
  16888. From owner-amigapl  Mon Mar 16 11:54:59 1998
  16889. Received: from gryzmak.lodz.pdi.net (gryzmak.lodz.pdi.net [195.116.162.1]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA05501 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 11:40:36 +0100 (MET)
  16890. Received: (from arturp@localhost)
  16891.     by gryzmak.lodz.pdi.net (8.8.7/2.1.1/L) id LAA03502;
  16892.     Mon, 16 Mar 1998 11:39:13 +0100
  16893. Message-ID: <19980316113913.11346@plukwa.pdi.net>
  16894. Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 11:39:13 +0100
  16895. From: Artur Pietruk <arturp@plukwa.pdi.net>
  16896. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  16897. Subject: Re: Do Admina
  16898. References: <19980313152358.01292@plukwa.pdi.net> <yam7376.536.3940632@iftia6.univ.gda.pl>
  16899. Mime-Version: 1.0
  16900. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
  16901. X-Mailer: Mutt 0.83
  16902. In-Reply-To: <yam7376.536.3940632@iftia6.univ.gda.pl>; from Marcin Ostrowski on Fri, Mar 13, 1998 at 07:00:10PM +0100
  16903.  
  16904. On Fri, Mar 13, 1998 at 07:00:10PM +0100, Marcin Ostrowski wrote:
  16905. > >Bez przesady... A w attachu moze byc tez tekst (np. ciekawy
  16906. > >artykul dolaczony do maila na zyczenie listowiczow).
  16907. > 
  16908. > Oooo! A pamietam ze na poczatku nie wolno bylo dolaczac ZADNYCH
  16909. > attachmentow... Milo ze odchodzimy od takiego ortodoksyzmu.
  16910. > Oczywiscie ze czasem trzeba cos do listu dodac, jakis tekst
  16911. > na przyklad, ale pewna granica powinna istniec! - przeciez
  16912. > nikt nie doda do listu przepisanej ksiazki (600 kilo) !
  16913.  
  16914.     Czy ja pisalem ze chce attache 600 kilo?
  16915.  
  16916.     Pozdrawia:
  16917.  
  16918. --- Artur Pietruk
  16919.  
  16920. From owner-amigapl  Mon Mar 16 11:55:19 1998
  16921. Received: from gryzmak.lodz.pdi.net (gryzmak.lodz.pdi.net [195.116.162.1]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA05485 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 11:33:47 +0100 (MET)
  16922. Received: (from arturp@localhost)
  16923.     by gryzmak.lodz.pdi.net (8.8.7/2.1.1/L) id LAA02875;
  16924.     Mon, 16 Mar 1998 11:32:20 +0100
  16925. Message-ID: <19980316113220.43867@plukwa.pdi.net>
  16926. Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 11:32:20 +0100
  16927. From: Artur Pietruk <arturp@plukwa.pdi.net>
  16928. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  16929. Subject: Re: ScanDubler
  16930. References: <19980311134006.41028@plukwa.pdi.net> <yam7375.2813.2015770600@priv.onet.pl>
  16931. Mime-Version: 1.0
  16932. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
  16933. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
  16934. X-Mailer: Mutt 0.83
  16935. In-Reply-To: <yam7375.2813.2015770600@priv.onet.pl>; from At0m on Thu, Mar 12, 1998 at 10:41:56PM -0000
  16936.  
  16937. On Thu, Mar 12, 1998 at 10:41:56PM -0000, At0m wrote:
  16938. > On 11-Mar-98, Artur Pietruk wrote:
  16939. > 
  16940. > >To jest "Undocumented feature" (*) tego sacandoublera. A masz
  16941. > >trojkolorowe paski, tak okolo 10, biegnace od lewej do prawej? Ciekwi mnie
  16942. > >to bo u mnie sa. Tylko nie jestem pewien czy jest to "Undocumented
  16943. > >feature" wszystkich egzemplarzy, czy tylko mojego :-)
  16944. > 
  16945. > Wiem o co chodzi bo mialem co¶ takiego w NTSC na monitorze ADAX'a do Amigi.
  16946. > Na szcze¶cie w ScanDublerze + HYUNDAI DeluxScan 5870 takie co¶ nie wystêpuje.
  16947. > Z tego co wiem to u innych te¿.
  16948.  
  16949.     Hmmm... No nie wiem, sprawdzalem z 3ma monitorami SVGA i paski sa
  16950. wszedzie (Highscreen, Daewoo, Nec Multisync)
  16951.  
  16952. -- 
  16953. -------------------------------------------------------------------
  16954. - Who  : Artur Pietruk - WebMaster @ PDi - www.pdi.net -      /// -
  16955. - Email: arturp@pdi.net IRC: APair TEL: +48 44 7140906 -     ///  -
  16956. - Snail: ul.11 listopada 33a/19 97-140 Koluszki POLAND - \\\///   -
  16957. - Using: AMIGA 4000/40 CV64-3D, A1240T                 -  \\//    -
  16958.  
  16959.         PGP public key - finger arturp@gryzmak.lodz.pdi.net
  16960.                 "My webpage exist - I've seen it!"
  16961. From owner-amigapl  Mon Mar 16 11:55:25 1998
  16962. Received: from butler.medianet.pl (root@butler.medianet.com.pl [195.116.184.2]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA05483 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 11:32:24 +0100 (MET)
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  16965.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 11:33:21 +0100 (MET)
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  16968.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 11:36:04 GMT
  16969. From: Artur Muszynski <amst@union.org.pl>
  16970. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  16971. Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 10:41:11 +0100
  16972. Message-ID: <yam7379.555.121736816@mail.union.org.pl>
  16973. In-Reply-To: <yam7379.149.2014633344@opnt.optimus.wroc.pl>
  16974. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  16975. Organization: Union
  16976. Subject: AmigaOS (bylo zupelnie co innego)
  16977. MIME-Version: 1.0
  16978. X-ISO-CONVERTED: Yam_ISO2 1.05 (02.11.97) (c) Silver Dream !
  16979. X-YAMISO-UPDATE: ftp://wfmh.man.szczecin.pl/pub/yam_iso2/
  16980. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  16981. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  16982.  
  16983. On 16-Mar-98, Maciej Matyka wrote:
  16984. > jest b.wazna? Dlaczego odstaje od innych? Poniewaz nie ma (i tu - mowie=
  16985.  to
  16986. > ze
  16987. > wstydem ja moge sie mylic, poniewaz nie znam niestety kazdego systemu
  16988. > operacyjnego tak dobrze jak AmigaOS) prawdopodobnie innego OS-a, ktory =
  16989. nie
  16990. > posiadalby ochrony pamieci.
  16991.  
  16992. Mylisz si=EA. MacOS jest idealnym przyk=B3adem, r=F3wnie=BF w g95 nie jes=
  16993. t to
  16994. rozwi=B1zane tak jak powinno (i w efekcie niewiele daje - je=B6li kompute=
  16995. rowi
  16996. przyjdzie na to ochota to i tak si=EA=A0wy=B3o=BFy). Zreszt=B1 ochrona pa=
  16997. mi=EAci
  16998. przyda=B3aby si=EA, ale nie jest to wcale rzecz przes=B1dzaj=B1ca o jako=B6=
  16999. ci systemu,
  17000. a jej wprowadzenie do AmigaOSu z pewno=B6ci=B1 stworzy=B3oby za sob=B1 ma=
  17001. s=EA pozornie
  17002. nie zwi=B1zanych problem=F3w.
  17003.  
  17004. Pozdrawiam.
  17005.  
  17006. (da=B3em forward)
  17007.  
  17008. --
  17009.  
  17010.    // Artur Muszynski (AMST/UNION) A4000/040/EGS
  17011.  \//  e-mail: amst@union.org.pl
  17012.  
  17013. From owner-amigapl  Mon Mar 16 11:55:33 1998
  17014. Received: from gryzmak.lodz.pdi.net (gryzmak.lodz.pdi.net [195.116.162.1]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA05507 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 11:47:28 +0100 (MET)
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  17016.     by gryzmak.lodz.pdi.net (8.8.7/2.1.1/L) id LAA04053;
  17017.     Mon, 16 Mar 1998 11:46:05 +0100
  17018. Message-ID: <19980316114604.09181@plukwa.pdi.net>
  17019. Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 11:46:04 +0100
  17020. From: Artur Pietruk <arturp@plukwa.pdi.net>
  17021. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  17022. Subject: Re: MIAMI,YAM,browsery
  17023. References: <yam7376.189.18363768@friko2.onet.pl>
  17024. Mime-Version: 1.0
  17025. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
  17026. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
  17027. X-Mailer: Mutt 0.83
  17028. In-Reply-To: <yam7376.189.18363768@friko2.onet.pl>; from Andrzej 'Killer' Kielar on Fri, Mar 13, 1998 at 10:16:03PM +0100
  17029.  
  17030. On Fri, Mar 13, 1998 at 10:16:03PM +0100, Andrzej 'Killer' Kielar wrote:
  17031. > CZEôê!!!
  17032. > 
  17033. > Czy moûna w jednej chwili:
  17034. > a) ôciâgaê plik z sieci
  17035. > b) pobieraê pocztë
  17036.  
  17037.     Mozna.
  17038.  
  17039. > Czy nie nastâpi jakieô przeciâûenie lini cy cóô ?
  17040.  
  17041.     Nie.
  17042.  
  17043. > Czy w takim przypadku transfer danych bardzo spadnie ?
  17044.  
  17045.     Nie, ogolem transfer nadal powinien byc ten sam, z ty, ze rozlozy
  17046. sie na ftp i mailera.
  17047.  
  17048. -- 
  17049. -------------------------------------------------------------------
  17050. - Who  : Artur Pietruk - WebMaster @ PDi - www.pdi.net -      /// -
  17051. - Email: arturp@pdi.net IRC: APair TEL: +48 44 7140906 -     ///  -
  17052. - Snail: ul.11 listopada 33a/19 97-140 Koluszki POLAND - \\\///   -
  17053. - Using: AMIGA 4000/40 CV64-3D, A1240T                 -  \\//    -
  17054.  
  17055.         PGP public key - finger arturp@gryzmak.lodz.pdi.net
  17056.                 "My webpage exist - I've seen it!"
  17057. From owner-amigapl  Mon Mar 16 12:25:30 1998
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  17060.     by gryzmak.lodz.pdi.net (8.8.7/2.1.1/L) id LAA05790;
  17061.     Mon, 16 Mar 1998 11:56:59 +0100
  17062. Message-ID: <19980316115659.02848@plukwa.pdi.net>
  17063. Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 11:56:59 +0100
  17064. From: Artur Pietruk <arturp@plukwa.pdi.net>
  17065. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  17066. Subject: Re: Re[2]: PPC do A1200
  17067. References: <1050.377T1716T7431820@silesia.top.pl> <yam7378.2539.1747621712@box43.gnet.pl>
  17068. Mime-Version: 1.0
  17069. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
  17070. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
  17071. X-Mailer: Mutt 0.83
  17072. In-Reply-To: <yam7378.2539.1747621712@box43.gnet.pl>; from Marcin (radmar) Wasilewski on Sun, Mar 15, 1998 at 09:22:50PM +0200
  17073.  
  17074. On Sun, Mar 15, 1998 at 09:22:50PM +0200, Marcin (radmar) Wasilewski wrote:
  17075. > >
  17076. > > A ja mam problem - co kupiæ? Chodzi g³ównie o processor 68k. W tej chwili
  17077. > > mam 040/40 i nie wystarcza. Programów na PPC jeszcze niewiele, wiêc czy
  17078. > > inwestowaæ w 060/50, czy mo¿e kupiæ bez procesora i prze³o¿yæ z Blizzarda?
  17079. > > Szkoda karty, któr± mo¿na by sprzedaæ, ale z drugiej strony PPC z 060
  17080. > > kosztuje znacznie wiêcej. Gdyby tylko by³y PPC z 040/40...
  17081. > >
  17082. >      Cze¶æ Yoyo !!!
  17083. > 
  17084. >      Je¶li masz do¶æ kasy to radzê kupiæ z prockiem 060. 060/50 jest
  17085. > oko³o 3 razy szybszy od 040/40. Wiem, ¿e bawisz siê odtwarzaniem
  17086. > mp3. Na 060 odtwarzanie mpega: 44100khz/AHI 14bit-stereo(Hi-Fi)
  17087. > zajmuje oko³o 50-60 % czasu procesora wiêc w tym czasie mo¿esz sobie
  17088. > jeszcze przegl±daæ WWW w i-necie i ¶ci±gaæ pocztê - sam tak czêsto robiê :).
  17089.  
  17090.     Hej! Ale po co 060 uzywac do dekodowania mp3? Przeciez o ile
  17091. dobrze pamietam to juz sa przynajmniej 2 dekodery mp3 na PPC.
  17092.  
  17093. -- 
  17094. -------------------------------------------------------------------
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  17098. - Using: AMIGA 4000/40 CV64-3D, A1240T                 -  \\//    -
  17099.  
  17100.         PGP public key - finger arturp@gryzmak.lodz.pdi.net
  17101.                 "My webpage exist - I've seen it!"
  17102. From owner-amigapl  Mon Mar 16 12:55:01 1998
  17103. Received: from kret.slo.zary.pl (root@[195.164.53.126]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA05655 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 12:30:33 +0100 (MET)
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  17106.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 12:37:39 +0100
  17107. From: Krzysztof Chrobot <krzys@slo.zary.pl>
  17108. To: amigapl@amiga.com.pl
  17109. Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 12:06:59 +0100
  17110. Message-ID: <yam7379.2961.1750423704@kret.slo.zary.pl>
  17111. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  17112. Subject: Problem z email'em
  17113. MIME-Version: 1.0
  17114. X-ISO-CONVERTED: Yam_ISO2 1.06 (17.11.97) (c) Silver Dream !
  17115. X-YAMISO-UPDATE: ftp://wfmh.org.pl/pub/yam_iso2/
  17116. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  17117. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  17118.  
  17119. Mam ma=B3y problem... Nie mog=E6 pobra=E6 maili za pomoc=B1 YAM'a. Na poc=
  17120. z=B1tku
  17121. dosta=B3em komunikat "B=B3=E6dne polecenie QUIT. Odpowied=BC: -ERR pop3 s=
  17122. erver
  17123. abnormal shotdown: file I/O error]", a p=F3=BCniej przy ka=BFdej pr=F3bie=
  17124.  mia=B3em:
  17125. "B=B3=E6dne polecenie PASS. Odpowied=BC: -ERR being read already /=B6ci=E6=
  17126. =BFka dost=E6pu do
  17127. pliku z moimi mailami/". Komunikat ten nie wyst=E6puje, je=BFeli na moim =
  17128. koncie
  17129. nie ma =BFadnych maili. Dw=F3ch moich kumpli ma ten sam problem na pc (te=
  17130. n sam
  17131. serwer). Maile bez problemu mog=E6 pobiera=E6 ftp'em z serwera, ale przec=
  17132. ie=BF po to
  17133. jest YAM, =BFeby nie m=E6czy=E6 si=E6 na ftp'ie.
  17134.  
  17135.                   Please - mo=BFe kto=B6 wie co to mo=BFe by=E6?
  17136.  
  17137.  
  17138. -- =
  17139.  
  17140.               Krzysztof Chrobot
  17141.           _Reyboot/Rainbow Design_
  17142.           mailto: *krzys@slo.zary.pl*
  17143.         http://www.slo.zary.pl/~krzys/
  17144. A1200T/060/18MB/2.1GB+0.2GB/CDx4/VBS/FG-24/Sampler/LC-20/33k6
  17145.  
  17146.  
  17147. From owner-amigapl  Mon Mar 16 13:54:59 1998
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  17155. From: Konrad Bielski <dominor@union.org.pl>
  17156. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  17157. Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 13:28:22 +0100
  17158. Message-ID: <yam7379.1106.140375016@mail.union.org.pl>
  17159. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.3a [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  17160. Subject: Re: PPC do A1200
  17161. MIME-Version: 1.0
  17162. X-ISO-CONVERTED: Yam_ISO2 1.04 (28.10.97) (c) Silver Dream !
  17163. X-YAMISO-UPDATE: ftp://wfmh.man.szczecin.pl/pub/yam_iso2/
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  17166.  
  17167. Dnia 15-Mar-98, Dariusz Woloch napisa=B3:
  17168.  
  17169. >jak dziala to opisz:))))))
  17170. >jak to dziala:))))
  17171.  
  17172. W skrocie:
  17173.  
  17174. 604e/200 - 060/50 kosztuje 4500 zl
  17175. 603e/160 - 040/25 kosztuje 1500 zl
  17176.  
  17177. To juz na dzien dobry powinno byc jakims wyznacznikiem,
  17178.  
  17179. Wedlug programu Benoit, 604e/200Mhz jest prawie 2 razy szybszy
  17180. od 603e/160Mhz. Jak tylko bede mial troche czasu przetestuje na reszcie
  17181. dostepnego softu, a wyniki zamieszcze na stronach WWW MA
  17182.  
  17183. Hej,
  17184. -- =
  17185.  
  17186.                Konrad Bielski
  17187.         E-mail: dominor@union.org.pl
  17188. Pracuje na: A4000T 604e/200 - 060/50 34MB CV64/3D
  17189.             A1200T 603e/160 - 040/25 34MB
  17190.                 =
  17191.  
  17192.  
  17193. From owner-amigapl  Mon Mar 16 13:55:06 1998
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  17200.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 13:42:59 +0100 (MET)
  17201. Message-Id: <199803161242.NAA09643@kinga.cyf-kr.edu.pl>
  17202. From: "Wojtek Jaworski" <mxjawors@cyf-kr.edu.pl>
  17203. To: "AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi" <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  17204. Subject: Odp: MIDI
  17205. Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 07:55:57 +0100
  17206. MIME-Version: 1.0
  17207. Content-Type: text/plain;
  17208.     charset="iso-8859-2"
  17209. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  17210. X-Priority: 3
  17211. X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
  17212. X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1008.3
  17213. X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE Engine V4.71.1008.3
  17214.  
  17215. =20
  17216.  
  17217. On 02-Sep-92, Darek Gora wrote:
  17218. >Czesc
  17219.  
  17220. >Ostatnio poproszono mnie abym przerobil pliki midi z formatu MUSIC-X =
  17221. 1.0 na
  17222. >normalne midi.
  17223. >Uruchomilem znane mi programy lecz zaden z nich nie czytal tego =
  17224. formatu.
  17225. >Poszukuje probramu ktorym mozna przerobic te pliki na .MID (dzwieki =
  17226. pozniej
  17227. >sam podloze). Czy moglby mi ktos podac namiary na te programy.
  17228.  
  17229. Ten program jest w pakiecie Music-X pod nazwa SMUS to MIDI i to wlasnie =
  17230. robi.
  17231. Jakbys nie znalazl to zapraszam na priva.
  17232. Pozdrawiam=20
  17233. Wojtek
  17234. ------------------------------
  17235. mailto: mxjawors@cyfronet.krakow.pl
  17236.  
  17237. From owner-amigapl  Mon Mar 16 14:24:55 1998
  17238. Received: from server.fiber.net.pl (server.fiber.net.pl [195.117.208.101]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA05939 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 14:06:24 +0100 (MET)
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  17242.           Mon, 16 Mar 1998 14:06:18 +0100
  17243. From: Miloslaw Smyk <thorgal@amiga.com.pl>
  17244. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  17245. Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 14:03:48 +0100
  17246. Message-ID: <yam7379.2444.140355176@fiber.net.pl>
  17247. In-Reply-To: <yam7378.491.30457840@polbox.com>
  17248. X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 beta10 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
  17249. Organization: W.F.M.H.
  17250. Subject: Re: Startup-sequence
  17251. MIME-Version: 1.0
  17252. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  17253. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  17254.  
  17255. Dnia 15-Mar-98, Mirek Nosek rzek=B3 co nast=EApuje:
  17256. > Cze=B6=EA!
  17257. > =
  17258.  
  17259. > Na szcz=EA=B6cie kupi=B3em sobie 040/25 wszystko jest fajnie, lecz po
  17260. umieszczeniu
  17261. > w startup-sequence C:CPU CACHE podczas uruchamiania
  17262.  
  17263. A po co to, je=B6li mo=BFna wiedzie=E6?
  17264.  
  17265. Mi=B3ek
  17266. -- =
  17267.  
  17268. mailto:thorgal@amiga.com.pl   |  "Man in the Moon and other weird things"=
  17269.  -
  17270. http://wfmh.org.pl/~thorgal/  |  see it at http://wfmh.org.pl/~thorgal/Mo=
  17271. on/
  17272.  
  17273. From owner-amigapl  Mon Mar 16 15:25:07 1998
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  17276. From: Peter Drapich <docent@union.org.pl>
  17277. Reply-To: docent@union.org.pl
  17278. To: Lista dyskusyjna AmigaPL <AMIGA@PLEARN.EDU.PL>,
  17279.         Lista dyskusyjna WFMH -AmigaPL <amigapl@wfmh.fiber.net.pl>
  17280. Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 06:49:41 +0100
  17281. Message-ID: <yam7379.2074.123851688@mail.supermedia.pl>
  17282. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  17283. Organization: Union Systems
  17284. Subject: karte procesora kupie
  17285. MIME-Version: 1.0
  17286. Content-Type: text/plain
  17287.  
  17288.  
  17289. Kupie za niewielka cene :) sprawna karte procesora 68040 do A4000.
  17290. Ale uwaga: sama karte BEZ procesora - dodatkowo moge dac sprawna karte z
  17291. 68030.
  17292. Najchetniej wymienilbym za moja, uszkodzona (chodzi z predkoscia 7 MHz) plus
  17293. jakas
  17294. doplate itp
  17295.  
  17296. Docent
  17297.  
  17298. --
  17299. A hundred years from now, none of us will give a damn.
  17300.  
  17301. From owner-amigapl  Mon Mar 16 16:54:48 1998
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  17305. Date: 15 Mar 98 22:54:05 +0100
  17306. From: "Maciej Gajewski" <maciejg@panda.bg.univ.gda.pl>
  17307. Subject: Re: PPC do A1200
  17308. To: "AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi" <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  17309. In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.3.96.980315210959.19900A-100000@willow.oi.pz.zgora.pl>
  17310. Message-Id: <482.378T257T13741161@panda.bg.univ.gda.pl>
  17311. Mime-Version: 1.0
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  17313. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
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  17315.  
  17316. Dnia 15-Mar-98    21:13:26, Dariusz Woloch napisa³:
  17317.  
  17318. >> >Gdyby tylko by³y PPC z 040/40...
  17319. >> Z tego co wiem to s± (...by³y...) :( Pytaj w Eurece albo w MARKTOMie
  17320.  
  17321. >:))  ppc sa w nastepujacych konfigach
  17322. >040LC/25 bez kopro i mmu
  17323. >040/25 z
  17324. >060/50 tez cale (pelne:)
  17325.  
  17326. >natomiast  mozna zamowic  przynajmniej w marktomie ppc z 
  17327. >podstawka pod 040/40  tylko ze proca to trzeba juz na wlasny rachunek
  17328. >kombinowac
  17329. >pozdrowka:))
  17330.  
  17331. *CENA*!!! Jaka cena?!
  17332.  
  17333. --
  17334.  
  17335. Maciej Gajewski     Team *AMIGA*
  17336.  
  17337. From owner-amigapl  Mon Mar 16 16:54:55 1998
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  17340. Message-Id: <199803161551.QAA14997@arka.mtl.pl>
  17341. From: "Adam Zaparcinski" <gielda@mtl.pl>
  17342. To: "Lista dyskusyjna uzytkownikow komputera AMIGA AMIGAPL" <AMIGA@PLEARN.EDU.PL>,
  17343.         "AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi" <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  17344. Subject: Pomysl - Tani Tower do A1200
  17345. Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 18:52:53 +0100
  17346. X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
  17347. X-Priority: 3
  17348. X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155
  17349. MIME-Version: 1.0
  17350. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2
  17351. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
  17352.  
  17353. Ró¿ne firmy oferuj± nam ró¿ne obudowy do naszych A1200 po ró¿nych wysokich
  17354. cenach. Kumpel podda³ mi pomys³: Skoro niektóre z tych obudów to zwyk³e
  17355. grzybiaste midi-tower ze wstawion± inn± tyln± ¶ciank± i nak³adk± na p³ytê do
  17356. monta¿u lyty g³ównej to czemu nie mo¿na kupiæ samych takich nak³adek i tylnych
  17357. ¶cianek? Tu widzê pole do popisu dla Amigowców. Przecie¿ zrobienie takiej
  17358. p³yty to tylko kwestia wywiercenia paru dziurek w blasze metalowej - koszty s±
  17359. niewielkie. Kto¶ móg³by robiæ takie tylne ¶cianki (rozk³ad otworów w obudowach
  17360. jest chyba ten sam) i p³yty do monta¿u naszej p³yty A1200 i sprzedawaæ
  17361. powiedzmy za 20 z³ za komplet. Potem tylko dokupiæ pecetow± obudowê midi-tower
  17362. i zrobione. A firmy produkuj±ce towerki by siê w¶ciek³y.
  17363.  
  17364. Adam 'Sherwood' Zaparciñski
  17365. mailto: gielda@mtl.pl
  17366. From owner-amigapl  Mon Mar 16 16:55:01 1998
  17367. Received: from arka.mtl.pl (root@mtl.pl [195.116.4.4]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA06399 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 16:52:17 +0100 (MET)
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  17369. Message-Id: <199803161551.QAA15000@arka.mtl.pl>
  17370. From: "Adam Zaparcinski" <gielda@mtl.pl>
  17371. To: "Lista dyskusyjna uzytkownikow komputera AMIGA AMIGAPL" <AMIGA@PLEARN.EDU.PL>,
  17372.         "AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi" <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  17373. Subject: Atari portfolio i Amiga
  17374. Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 18:56:14 +0100
  17375. X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
  17376. X-Priority: 3
  17377. X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155
  17378. MIME-Version: 1.0
  17379. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2
  17380. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
  17381.  
  17382. Kumpel prosi³ mnie ¿ebym siê spyta³ na li¶cie czy kto¶ z Amigowców ma Atari
  17383. Portfolio i jakie¶ do¶wiadczenia w ³±czeniu tego z Amig±. Chodzi o przesy³anie
  17384. danych za pomoc± interfejsu chyba szeregowego. Wiadomo, ¿e z pcetem sie da
  17385. po³±czyæ ale kumpel chce pokazaæ, ¿e Amiga te¿ potrafi!
  17386.  
  17387. Odpowiedzi proszê na priva
  17388.  
  17389. Dziêki
  17390.  
  17391. Adam 'Sherwood' Zaparciñski
  17392. mailto: gielda@mtl.pl
  17393. From owner-amigapl  Mon Mar 16 18:54:49 1998
  17394. Received: from www.kki.net.pl (www.kki.net.pl [195.116.9.70]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA06784 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 18:43:25 +0100 (MET)
  17395. Received: from kki.net.pl (ppp@ppp218.gorzow.tpnet.pl [195.116.254.218])
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  17397.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 18:43:14 +0100
  17398. From: Zbigniew WROBLAK <zwroblak@kki.net.pl>
  17399. Reply-To: zwroblak@kki.net.pl
  17400. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  17401. Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 18:33:18 +0100
  17402. Message-ID: <yam7379.912.3834784@kki.net.pl>
  17403. In-Reply-To: <yam7378.2726.508614880@kki.net.pl>
  17404. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  17405. Organization: Zbigniew WROBLAK
  17406. Subject: Re: YAM i Miami nie =?iso-8859-1?Q?pracuj=E2?= poprawnie z moim kontem na SHACO.PL - Help Me !
  17407. MIME-Version: 1.0
  17408. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
  17409. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  17410.  
  17411. On 15-Mar-98, Leszek Swiatek wrote:
  17412. >Witam (po raz pierwszy) wszystkich braci Amigi !
  17413.  
  17414. >
  17415. >...u=FBywam YAM'a (1.34 1.35 2.00) i Miami (...) i mam konto na serwerze=
  17416.  
  17417. >SHACO.pl.
  17418.  
  17419. Ja rowniez mialem konto na shaco.pl - jest to ewidentny blad oprogramowan=
  17420. ia
  17421. serwera - ktory zmusil mnie do zrezygnowania z uslug serwerw shaco.pl - =
  17422.  
  17423. poniewaz przy tych samych preferencjach YAM-a na polbox.com czy na kki.ne=
  17424. t.pl
  17425. oprogramowanie chodzi bez problemow.
  17426. Co prawda admin shaco.pl obiecywal zalatwic poprawienie tego bledu
  17427. oprogramowania ale widac ze na obietnicach sie skonczylo.
  17428.  
  17429. -- =
  17430.  
  17431. Zbigniew WROBLAK
  17432. zwroblak@kki.net.pl
  17433.  
  17434. From owner-amigapl  Mon Mar 16 18:55:03 1998
  17435. Received: from willow.oi.pz.zgora.pl (willow.oi.pz.zgora.pl [193.59.82.212]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA06906 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 18:51:58 +0100 (MET)
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  17438.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 18:48:16 +0100 (CET)
  17439. Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 18:48:15 +0100 (CET)
  17440. From: Dariusz Woloch <spajk@willow.oi.pz.zgora.pl>
  17441. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  17442. Subject: Re: Pomysl - Tani Tower do A1200
  17443. In-Reply-To: <199803161551.QAA14997@arka.mtl.pl>
  17444. Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.3.96.980316184504.2139B-100000@willow.oi.pz.zgora.pl>
  17445. MIME-Version: 1.0
  17446. Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-2
  17447. Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE
  17448.  
  17449. > Tu widz=EA pole do popisu dla Amigowc=F3w. Przecie=BF zrobienie takiej
  17450. > p=B3yty to tylko kwestia wywiercenia paru dziurek w blasze metalowej - ko=
  17451. szty s=B1
  17452. > niewielkie. Kto=B6 m=F3g=B3by robi=E6 takie tylne =B6cianki (rozk=B3ad ot=
  17453. wor=F3w w obudowach
  17454. > jest chyba ten sam) i p=B3yty do monta=BFu naszej p=B3yty A1200 i sprzeda=
  17455. wa=E6
  17456. > powiedzmy za 20 z=B3 za komplet. Potem tylko dokupi=E6 pecetow=B1 obudow=
  17457. =EA midi-tower
  17458. > i zrobione. A firmy produkuj=B1ce towerki by si=EA w=B6ciek=B3y.
  17459.  
  17460. Ino znalezc  kogos z warsztatem i zacieciem do pilowania metalu:))=20
  17461.  
  17462.     __                       __
  17463.    _\/_ Dariusz Woloch (d2) _\/_  irc d2
  17464.    \/\/ phone 075-734-2683  \/\/  icq 6828655
  17465. Summon Your Faith - Your Intention Must Be Clear =20
  17466.  
  17467.  
  17468.  
  17469. From owner-amigapl  Mon Mar 16 19:24:48 1998
  17470. Received: from sun10.ci.pwr.wroc.pl (baran@sun10.ci.pwr.wroc.pl [156.17.10.1]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA07059 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 19:19:17 +0100 (MET)
  17471. Received: (from baran@localhost)
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  17473.     Mon, 16 Mar 1998 19:18:37 +0100 (MET)
  17474. Message-ID: <19980316191836.53769@sun10.ci.pwr.wroc.pl>
  17475. Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 19:18:37 +0100
  17476. From: "Miroslaw 'Jubal' Baran, NM" <baran@knm.org.pl>
  17477. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  17478. Subject: =?iso-8859-2?Q?Dla_u=BFytkownik=F3w_ksh_=3B^=29?=
  17479. Mime-Version: 1.0
  17480. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  17481. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  17482. X-Mailer: Mutt 0.88
  17483. Organization: Klub Nieszkodliwych Maniakow
  17484. X-Motto: ,,...nawet jesli wbije Ci noz w plecy, pamietaj, ze bedzie to czyste pchniecie.''
  17485. X-Alchemy: Pany!
  17486. X-System: SunOS 5.5
  17487. X-PGP-key: mail(x) baran@sun10.ci.pwr.wroc.pl -s"send: pgp key" </dev/null
  17488.  
  17489. Jak kto=B6 lubi u=BFywa=E6 narz=B1dek typu ksh, to mo=BFe sobie zajrze=E6 na
  17490. http://www.ci.pwr.wroc.pl/~baran/tek/gg/ksh/ i zobaczy=E6 m=F3j plik
  17491. ksh.kshrc [btw, ksh w tym trybie znakomicie dzia=B3a z KCON:]...
  17492. generalnie jest to takie-sobie obej=B6cie tego, =BFe ksh nie za bardzo
  17493. potrafi zrobi=E6 cd URZ=A1DZENIE:=A6cie=BFka/amigowa, ale to moje wprawki w
  17494. awku i te=BF chcia=B3bym si=EA nimi pochwali=E6 ;-)
  17495.  
  17496. zdr=F3wka,
  17497. Jubal
  17498.  
  17499. PS. Oczywi=B6cie zmienna ENV powinna mie=E6 warto=B6=E6 /etc/ksh.kshrc
  17500. PPS. KCON: nie by=B3by prawie potrzebny, gdyby nie to, =BFe tryb emacs w
  17501. pdksh jest zwalony i obcina =F3smy bit.
  17502.  
  17503. --=20
  17504. =3D   // =3D mailto:baran@knm.org.pl =3D http://www.ci.pwr.wroc.pl/~baran/ =
  17505. =3D
  17506. =3D \X/  =3D Miroslaw L. Baran =3D Jubal =3D medical student =3D ALCHEMY PA=
  17507. NY! =3D
  17508.  
  17509.                              Jenkinson's Law:
  17510.                                It won't work.
  17511. From owner-amigapl  Mon Mar 16 20:54:49 1998
  17512. Received: from silter.silesia.top.pl (silter.silesia.top.pl [195.117.67.3]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA07244 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 20:24:58 +0100 (MET)
  17513. Received: from ppp-wct185.katowice.tpnet.pl (yoyo@ppp-wct185.katowice.tpnet.pl [194.204.181.185])
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  17515.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 20:24:22 +0100 (CET)
  17516. Date: 16 Mar 98 20:21:59 +0100
  17517. From: "Grzegorz Juraszek" <yoyo@silesia.top.pl>
  17518. Subject: Re: Re[2]: PPC do A1200
  17519. To: "AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi" <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  17520. In-Reply-To: <19980316115659.02848@plukwa.pdi.net>
  17521. Message-ID: <1504.379T2995T12213891@silesia.top.pl>
  17522. MIME-Version: 1.0
  17523. Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  17524. Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
  17525. X-Mailer: THOR 2.5 (Amiga;TCP/IP) *UNREGISTERED*
  17526.  
  17527. Hello Artur Pietruk, on 16-Mar-98    11:56:59 you wrote:
  17528. >On Sun, Mar 15, 1998 at 09:22:50PM +0200, Marcin (radmar) Wasilewski wrote:
  17529.  
  17530. >>      Je¶li masz do¶æ kasy to radzê kupiæ z prockiem 060.
  17531.  
  17532. Kasê mam, gorzej z osi±galno¶ci± kart :(
  17533.  
  17534. >> oko³o 3 razy szybszy od 040/40. Wiem, ¿e bawisz siê odtwarzaniem
  17535. >> mp3. Na 060 odtwarzanie mpega: 44100khz/AHI 14bit-stereo(Hi-Fi)
  17536. >> zajmuje oko³o 50-60 % czasu procesora wiêc w tym czasie mo¿esz sobie
  17537. >> jeszcze przegl±daæ WWW w i-necie i ¶ci±gaæ pocztê - sam tak czêsto robiê
  17538. >> :).
  17539.  
  17540. Ja najwy¿ej mogê uruchomiæ CEDa i to z ostro¿no¶ci±.
  17541.  
  17542. >    Hej! Ale po co 060 uzywac do dekodowania mp3? Przeciez o ile
  17543. >dobrze pamietam to juz sa przynajmniej 2 dekodery mp3 na PPC.
  17544.  
  17545. No proszê :) ¯eby jeszcze AHI by³o na PPC, albo ¿eby autor je poprawi³, bo
  17546. najszybsze to ono nie jest :( Na 040/40 jakie¶ 10% czasu procesora,
  17547. co przy mpegach jest znacz±ce. Szczególnie gdy jeszcze procesor musi
  17548. przepychaæ dane przez zabytkowe ZorroII.
  17549.  
  17550. Jest jeszcze jedna kwestia - na 060 nie chodzi wiele dem. Dla mnie jest to
  17551. istotne.
  17552.  
  17553. A wszystkim dziêkujê za zainteresowanie tematem :)
  17554.  
  17555. >                "My webpage exist - I've seen it!"
  17556.  
  17557. Wiem, ¿e to zboczenie zawodowe, ale powinno byæ 'exists'. Jeszcze raz
  17558. przepraszam :)
  17559.  
  17560. --
  17561.    Grzegorz Juraszek * Yoyo^Twilight * Amiga user * AIRI & ATO PL member
  17562.        mailto:yoyo@silesia.top.pl * http://www.silesia.top.pl/~yoyo
  17563. --
  17564.              "Let the truth be known though the heavens fall"
  17565.                     Agent Mulder * The X-Files * Redux
  17566.  
  17567. From owner-amigapl  Mon Mar 16 20:54:56 1998
  17568. Received: from silter.silesia.top.pl (silter.silesia.top.pl [195.117.67.3]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA07236 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 20:24:51 +0100 (MET)
  17569. Received: from ppp-wct185.katowice.tpnet.pl (yoyo@ppp-wct185.katowice.tpnet.pl [194.204.181.185])
  17570.     by silter.silesia.top.pl (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA29975;
  17571.     Mon, 16 Mar 1998 20:24:16 +0100 (CET)
  17572. Date: 16 Mar 98 20:08:54 +0100
  17573. From: "Grzegorz Juraszek" <yoyo@silesia.top.pl>
  17574. Subject: re: mUSASHI and AmigaOS
  17575. To: ""maq@opnt.optimus.wroc.pl, amigapl@amiga.com.pl
  17576. In-Reply-To: <yam7379.149.2014633344@opnt.optimus.wroc.pl>
  17577. Message-ID: <5992.379T2724T12083140@silesia.top.pl>
  17578. MIME-Version: 1.0
  17579. Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  17580. Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
  17581. X-Mailer: THOR 2.5 (Amiga;TCP/IP) *UNREGISTERED*
  17582.  
  17583. Hello Maciej Matyka, on 16-Mar-98    00:01:02 you wrote:
  17584. >Witam!
  17585.  
  17586. >>Wprowadzenie:
  17587. >>ACS 1/98 s. 25
  17588. >>"mUSASHI:Otórz...Sama Amiga ma CHORY system operacyjny (w porównaniu do
  17589. >>innych)"
  17590.  
  17591. >Pierwsza sprawa (ktora nie powinna byc tu poruszana, ale jednak troche
  17592. >kultury przyda sie nam wszystkim) - temat ten byl juz poruszany nie raz -
  17593. >pisanie ksywy kogokolwiek z malej litery, rozumiem - w przypadku, kiedy
  17594. >rzeczywiscie mamy jakis "problem" do kogos - nie ma sprawy, ale w tym
  17595. >przypadku Musashi po prostu wyrazil swoja opinie (a to mu wolno) i nikogo nie
  17596. >obrazil - w szczegolnosci Ciebie!
  17597. >>Mo¿na to traktowaæ jako obraza.
  17598. >Ale chyba nie Ciebie?
  17599.  
  17600. Ja te¿ mam prawo wyraziæ swoje zdanie o nim, na przyk³ad pisz±c jego ksywê
  17601. ma³± liter±. Nie bêdê tego jednak robiæ, znam inne ¶rodki wyrazu.
  17602.  
  17603. Mnie pan Musashi obrazi³. Wiem, mam emocjonalny stosunek do Amigi i pewnie
  17604. to jest wada, ale nie znamierzam tego zmieniaæ, te¿ mam do tego prawo,
  17605. podobnie jak do w³asnego zdania o Musashim.
  17606.  
  17607. >> Ja uwa¿am, ¿e powinno¶ci± redaktora
  17608. >>(Macieja Matyki) by³o kontynuowaæ ten temat. Lecz jego chyba zatka³o.
  17609.  
  17610. >Kontynuowalem, jednak poza samym wywiadem.
  17611.  
  17612. W którym numerze ACS?
  17613.  
  17614. >Stwierdzilem, ze ogol odbiorcow
  17615. >ACS nie bedzie tym szczegolnie zainteresowany, a kogos takiego jak Ty skloni
  17616. >do nawiazania kontaktu z Musashim (z czego bylbym b. zadowolony, on zreszta
  17617. >tez).
  17618.  
  17619. Mam powa¿ne w±tpliwo¶ci, czy pan Musashi by³by zadowolony z kontaktu ze
  17620. mn± i nawzajem. Staram siê nie mieæ do czynienia z lud¼mi o takim podej¶ciu
  17621. do tego i innych tematów, ¶wiat a¿ taki znowu ma³y nie jest.
  17622.  
  17623. >Sam wywiad w finalnej wersji zajmowal grubo powyzej jednej strony -
  17624. >niestety musial wejsc na strone i wydaje mi sie, ze w pierwszej kolejnosci
  17625. >obciete zostalyby wywody na temat systemu operacyjnego Amigi, poniewaz wywiad
  17626. >mial dotyczyc osoby Musashiego, a nie AmigaOS.
  17627.  
  17628. Wywiad dotyczy³ rzeczywi¶cie osoby pana Musashiego i jego pogl±dów na
  17629. w³asn± osobê. Nie znalaz³o siê w nim natomiast to, co mnie osobi¶cie -
  17630. i pewnie wielu aktywnych scenowców - by interesowa³o - jak osi±gn±³ swoj±
  17631. pozycjê jako kodera. Nie brak³o natomiast miejsca na filozofiê, oraz na
  17632. informacjê, ¿e pan Musashi programuje obecnie w VisualC pod wielozadaniowym
  17633. Windowsem (jak¿e piêkne oksymorony).
  17634.  
  17635. Poza tym przyznajesz siê dobrowolnie do manipulacji (chyba nie muszê
  17636. przypomniaæ, ¿e sprzecznej z etyk± dziennikarsk±), poniewa¿ wyciête
  17637. fragmenty zmieniaj± - wed³ug Twoich s³ów - postaæ rzeczy. Zostawi³e¶
  17638. jedynie najbardziej kontrowersyjne zdanie (mocne lepsze?). Nie jest to zbyt
  17639. rozs±dne posuniêcie w obecnej sytuacji Amigi. Nie sugerujê tu zatajania
  17640. prawdy i pisania, ¿e wszystko jest super, wiêc o co tym pecetowcom chodzi,
  17641. ale z jednej strony "legenda sceny", a z drugiej "chory system". Skoro ju¿
  17642. wyci±³e¶ tyle, mo¿na by³o zrezygnowaæ z tego w±tku.
  17643.  
  17644. >> Mnie
  17645. >>zatka³o. Mo¿e kto¶ z czytaj±cych zna tego filozofa i spyta siê go o co mu
  17646. >>chodzi³o?
  17647.  
  17648. >Moze przestanmy traktowac go z pogarda - to wielki czlowiek, ktorego zaslugi
  17649. >mozna by dlugo wymieniac, nie zmieni tego troche skrzywiony (niestety...)
  17650. >obraz jego osoby przedstawiony w ACS
  17651.  
  17652. Czyli po raz kolejny przyznajesz siê do brakoróbstwa? Sugerujê zwrot
  17653. honorarium autorskiego do redakcji oraz powa¿ne przemy¶lenia na temat
  17654. dalszej kariery dziennikarskiej.
  17655.  
  17656. >(stad pewnie ten filozof...) - wiec
  17657. >mysle, ze i Ty mozesz zaczac go traktowac z szacunkiem (szczegolnie, ze jak
  17658. >widze po prostu go nie znasz)
  17659.  
  17660. Nie widzê najmniejszego powodu, ¿eby szanowaæ cokolwiek, poza jego
  17661. dorobkiem koderskim. Ja te¿ go nie znam, czego po wspomnianym wywiadzie
  17662. wcale nie ¿a³ujê.
  17663.  
  17664. >> Ja bynajmniej chia³bym wiedzieæ w czym AmigaOS
  17665. >>(multitasting) odstaje od innych i jakich? Oczywi¶cie same konkrety.
  17666.  
  17667. [tutaj konkrety, jaki to AmigaOS jest u³omny, a¿ siê zdziwi³em, ¿e jeszcze
  17668. w ogóle kto¶ go u¿ywa i to dzia³a]
  17669.  
  17670. >Rozmawialem z nim o tym - stwierdzil, ze moge to przeredagowac, jesli mi to
  17671. >nie pasuje. Stwierdzilem jednak, ze nie bede za bardzo ingerowal w jego
  17672. >wypowiedz
  17673.  
  17674. Sam sobie zaprzeczasz. Wy¿ej twierdzisz, ¿e zrobi³e¶ spore ciêcia.
  17675.  
  17676. >- to mial byc wywiad, nie cukiereczkowate opowiadanko o starym scenowcu.
  17677.  
  17678. Brawo, oby tak dalej, a bêdziecie pisaæ dla kilkudziesiêciu osób, które
  17679. maj± serdecznie gdzie¶ czyje¶ opinie i nie pozbêd± siê Amig.
  17680.  
  17681. A gdyby tak zamiast nies³awnego wywiadu napisaæ artyku³ o tym, jak to
  17682. znakomity koder Musashi/Union prawie trzy lata temu zakodowa³ zapieraj±ce
  17683. dech w piersiach demo TDTW (albo wcze¶niejsze...), jak to u¿y³ ¶wietnych
  17684. procedur c2p d³ugo przed wszystkimi zachodnimi koderami i jak cudownie
  17685. spakowa³ zawartego w demie sampla na d³ugo przed tym, zanim algorytmy mpeg
  17686. audio wesz³y do powszechnego u¿ycia? A w puencie co¶ w stylu "dla takich
  17687. chwil i dem warto mieæ Amigê"? My¶lê, ¿e wszyscy byliby zadowoleni.
  17688.  
  17689. >Dosszlo do mnie juz wiele sygnalow na temat tego co powiedzial
  17690. >Musashi. Cieszy fakt, ze czytelnicy bacznie zwracaja uwage na to co czytaja,
  17691.  
  17692. Chyba ACS nie jest pismem brukowym, które popularno¶æ mierzy g³o¶no¶ci±
  17693. skandali?
  17694.  
  17695. >smuci - ze zaden z tych sygnalow nie dotarl ani do mnie, ani do ACS ani tym
  17696. >bardziej do Musashiego.
  17697.  
  17698. Przecie¿ dotar³ :)
  17699.  
  17700. >>- z powa¿aniem
  17701.  
  17702. >klocilbym sie...
  17703.  
  17704. My¶la³em, ¿e kulturalnie dyskutujemy.
  17705.  
  17706. >W przypadku ewentualnych odpowiedzi na tego maila - prosze o /fwd na konto
  17707. >maq@opnt.optimus.wroc.pl, poniewaz na razie nie moge sledzic bezposrednio
  17708. >tego co dzieje sie na liscie.
  17709.  
  17710. Zrobione. Ewentualne kolejne maile bêdê s³a³ wy³±cznie na priv, bo chocia¿
  17711. dyskusja niew±tpliwie dotyczy Amigi, ale skoro nie jeste¶ na li¶cie, to nie
  17712. ma sensu jej tu rozwijaæ.
  17713.  
  17714. >A Ciebie Miko, oraz innych zainteresowanych ww wypowiedzia Musashiego,
  17715. >zapraszam do dyskusji z samym zainteresowanym - jego email:
  17716. >musashi@union.org.pl
  17717.  
  17718. Nie s±dzê, ¿eby¶my znale¼li wspólne tematy.
  17719.  
  17720. --
  17721.    Grzegorz Juraszek * Yoyo^Twilight * Amiga user * AIRI & ATO PL member
  17722.        mailto:yoyo@silesia.top.pl * http://www.silesia.top.pl/~yoyo
  17723. --
  17724.              "Let the truth be known though the heavens fall"
  17725.                     Agent Mulder * The X-Files * Redux
  17726.  
  17727. From owner-amigapl  Mon Mar 16 20:55:07 1998
  17728. Received: from silter.silesia.top.pl (silter.silesia.top.pl [195.117.67.3]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA07237 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 20:24:51 +0100 (MET)
  17729. Received: from ppp-wct185.katowice.tpnet.pl (yoyo@ppp-wct185.katowice.tpnet.pl [194.204.181.185])
  17730.     by silter.silesia.top.pl (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA29982
  17731.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 20:24:21 +0100 (CET)
  17732. Date: 16 Mar 98 20:11:44 +0100
  17733. From: "Grzegorz Juraszek" <yoyo@silesia.top.pl>
  17734. Subject: Re: YAM i Miami nie pracujâ poprawnie z moim kontem na SHACO.PL - Help Me !
  17735. To: "AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi" <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  17736. In-Reply-To: <yam7378.418.1747621712@box43.gnet.pl>
  17737. Message-ID: <832.379T2237T12112493@silesia.top.pl>
  17738. MIME-Version: 1.0
  17739. Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  17740. Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
  17741. X-Mailer: THOR 2.5 (Amiga;TCP/IP) *UNREGISTERED*
  17742.  
  17743. Hello radmar, on 15-Mar-98    21:02:08 you wrote:
  17744.  
  17745. >     Jest program pod Amigê, który sobie radzi z tym ich pojeb.. serwerem
  17746. >POP, zwie siê on THOR jest trochê zamieszany, ale mo¿na siê do niego
  17747. >przyzwyczaiæ, jakby co to porad¼ siê Yoyo - jest on GURU tego programu
  17748. >ostatnio nawet zrobi³ polskie locale do tego mailera.
  17749.  
  17750. Nie przesadzaj :) Znam na tyle, na ile mo¿na znaæ program, którego u¿ywa
  17751. siê codziennie przez ponad rok. Oczywi¶cie chêtnie pomogê, a tekst o
  17752. praktycznej instalacji i u¿yciu THORa do Internetu powinien wreszcie
  17753. wkrótce ujrzeæ ¶wiat³o dzienne.
  17754.  
  17755. --
  17756.    Grzegorz Juraszek * Yoyo^Twilight * Amiga user * AIRI & ATO PL member
  17757.        mailto:yoyo@silesia.top.pl * http://www.silesia.top.pl/~yoyo
  17758. --
  17759.              "Let the truth be known though the heavens fall"
  17760.                     Agent Mulder * The X-Files * Redux
  17761.  
  17762. From owner-amigapl  Mon Mar 16 22:54:51 1998
  17763. Received: from dns.herbial.pl (root@[195.205.25.65]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA07587 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 22:42:20 +0100 (MET)
  17764. Received: from dns.herbial.pl (root@dialup3.bialystok.as.bptnet.pl [195.136.0.37])
  17765.     by dns.herbial.pl (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id WAA00538
  17766.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 22:50:06 +0100
  17767. From: Andrzej Gorny <agorny@dns.herbial.pl>
  17768. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  17769. Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 22:39:24 +0200
  17770. Message-ID: <yam7379.1243.20648128@195.205.25.65>
  17771. In-Reply-To: <yam7378.2900.19703928@kki.net.pl>
  17772. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [060] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  17773. Subject: Re: Taktowanie Apollo
  17774. MIME-Version: 1.0
  17775. Content-Type: text/plain
  17776.  
  17777. Dnia 15-Mar-98, Pawel Golebiewski napisal:
  17778. > Dzisiaj probowalem przetaktowac karte Apollo
  17779. > z 25 MHz (kwarc 50 MHz) na 33 MHz (kwarc 66.660 MHz).
  17780. > Zalozylem nowy kwarc, wlaczylem i ...
  17781. > zakopcilo sie, az milo ! Na szczescie nie zauwazylem
  17782. > (jeszcze) zeby cos poszlo. Czy cos zrobilem nie tak ?
  17783. > Kwarc na pewno zalozylem tak jak powinien byc.
  17784. > 
  17785.  
  17786. Ja zrobilem podobnie i dziala nadal. Chyba udalo Ci sie jednak zle
  17787. wlozyc oscylator, a zrobic to jest dosc latwo, bo gdy go zbyt mocno
  17788. wcisniesz to istnieje prawdopodobienstwo, ze zewrzesz napiecie
  17789. zasilania oscylatorka do masy, a efekt takiej dzialalnosci sprawdziles
  17790. empirycznie :(
  17791.  
  17792. > PS. Oscylator wzialem z plyty 386 33MHz,
  17793. > czy to ma jakies znaczenie ?
  17794. > 
  17795.  
  17796. Nie, taki oscylatorek powinien dzialac (ja eksperymentoawalem nawet z
  17797. 50MHz, ale niestety karta dziala tylko kilka sekund, a pozniej sie
  17798. wiesza...).
  17799.  
  17800.  
  17801. -- 
  17802.  
  17803.   Andrzej Gorny.
  17804.   mailto: agorny@dns.herbial.pl
  17805.  
  17806. From owner-amigapl  Mon Mar 16 23:24:49 1998
  17807. Received: from friko.onet.pl (friko.onet.pl [194.204.191.9]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA07674 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 23:05:48 +0100 (MET)
  17808. Received: from friko.onet.pl (ppp@ppp31.wloclawek.tpnet.pl [195.116.247.31])
  17809.           by friko.onet.pl (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP
  17810.       id WAA20445 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 22:54:57 +0100
  17811. From: RHS Linux User <malafifi@friko.onet.pl>
  17812. Reply-To: RHS Linux User <malafifi@friko.onet.pl>
  17813. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  17814. Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 22:59:53 +0100
  17815. Message-ID: <yam7379.2664.2016018000@priv.onet.pl>
  17816. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  17817. Organization: SIEDZIBA =?iso-8859-2?Q?DIAB=A3A?=
  17818. Subject: Macros w assemblerze.
  17819. MIME-Version: 1.0
  17820. X-ISO-CONVERTED: Yam_ISO2 1.03 (15.10.97) (c) Silver Dream !
  17821. X-YAMISO-UPDATE: ftp://wfmh.man.szczecin.pl/pub/yam_iso2/
  17822. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  17823. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  17824.  
  17825. Hej.
  17826. W jaki spos=F3b w=B3a=B6ciwie urzy=E6 makro np. DOSNAME albo INTNAME ze
  17827. standardowych includ=F3w w assemblerze.
  17828. Chodzi mi o to =BFeby w g=B3=F3wnym programie np za=B3adowa=E6 adres nazw=
  17829. y biblioteki do
  17830. rejestru procesora bez tworzenia w g=B3=F3wnym programie dc.b 'ciag',0 a
  17831. zast=B1pienia go w=B3a=B6nie tym macrem.
  17832. Czy jest to wog=F3le mo=BFliwe?
  17833. O co chodzi w tzw.native screen's.Co to s=B1 za typy ekran=F3w?
  17834.  
  17835. -- =
  17836.  
  17837.               ---------------------------------------------------
  17838.               |     RHS Linux User znany jako Andrzej P=EAczak    |
  17839.               | A1k2 z dodatkami E-mial: malafifi@friko.onet.pl |
  17840.               ---------------------------------------------------
  17841.  
  17842. From owner-amigapl  Mon Mar 16 23:54:49 1998
  17843. Received: from student.uci.agh.edu.pl (ramix@student.uci.agh.edu.pl [149.156.98.60]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA07751 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 23:52:18 +0100 (MET)
  17844. Received: from localhost (ramix@localhost) by student.uci.agh.edu.pl (8.8.6/8.8.5/ts-tmpl.970124) with SMTP
  17845.        id XAA28740 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 23:52:40 +0100 (MET)
  17846. Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 23:52:40 +0100 (MET)
  17847. From: Grzegorz Junka <ramix@student.uci.agh.edu.pl>
  17848. X-Sender: ramix@student
  17849. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  17850. Subject: re: mUSASHI and AmigaOS
  17851. In-Reply-To: <yam7379.149.2014633344@opnt.optimus.wroc.pl>
  17852. Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.95.980316234936.19502J-100000@student>
  17853. MIME-Version: 1.0
  17854. Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
  17855.  
  17856. > Juz mowie (same konkrety :) - slowami Musashiego i troche swoimi (tak sie
  17857. > sklada, ze tez troche koduje i programuje). Jest tylko jedna choroba
  17858. > AmigaOS-a. Wszyscy o niej wiemy - Ty na pewno tez. Ten wspanialy,
  17859. > wielozadaniowy, elastyczny, przyjazny system operacyjny NIE MA OCHRONY PAMIECI
  17860. > (slowa Musashiego). Nie pomoze tu wymienianie nastepnych zalet tego systemu -
  17861. > nie umywaja sie one do tego wlasnie bledu (chyba mozna to tak nazwac) -
  17862. > poniewaz uniemozliwia on zachowanie stabilnosci systemu, a ta sprawa chyba
  17863. > jest b.wazna? Dlaczego odstaje od innych? Poniewaz nie ma (i tu - mowie to ze
  17864. > wstydem ja moge sie mylic, poniewaz nie znam niestety kazdego systemu
  17865. > operacyjnego tak dobrze jak AmigaOS) prawdopodobnie innego OS-a, ktory nie
  17866. > posiadalby ochrony pamieci.
  17867.  
  17868. W dobie 500 pozwalalo to byc daleko przed wszystkimi innymi platformami o
  17869. podobnej szybkosci. Ale teraz? Cos kiedys slyszalem, ze opracowywany nowy
  17870. system 4.0 ochrone pamieci juz ma miec. Czy ktos to potwierdzi? Bo jesli
  17871. nie, to caly ten AmigaOS w dobie PPC i nowych pre/boxow wlasciwie NIE MA
  17872. SENSU!!!
  17873.  
  17874. --
  17875. ,x80Y^"    Member of Amiga Promotion Group and fanatic AMIGA user
  17876. $0+'    Grzegorz Junka "Bastian"
  17877. 08    ramix@student.uci.agh.edu.pl    bastian@apg.plukwa.pdi.net
  17878. 0'
  17879. 9    A1200Inf 040/40Bliz 32Mb 1.6Gb 12x 1942S CN40BC
  17880.  
  17881. From owner-amigapl  Mon Mar 16 23:55:03 1998
  17882. Received: from poczta.tom.pl ([195.117.200.1]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA07745 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 23:51:00 +0100 (MET)
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  17886. From: Michal Durys <misha@friko2.onet.pl>
  17887. Reply-To: misha@friko2.onet.pl
  17888. To: AmigaPL <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  17889. Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 23:47:27 +0100
  17890. Message-ID: <yam7379.1380.19636648@poczta.tom.pl>
  17891. X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
  17892. Organization: El Condor Software
  17893. Subject: Drukarka Samsung
  17894. MIME-Version: 1.0
  17895. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  17896. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  17897.  
  17898. Hejka!
  17899.  
  17900. Office Depot wysprzedaje si=EA z drukarek Samsung My Jet II, pono=E6 po
  17901. atrakacyjnych cenach.  Chcia=B3bym wiedzie=E6 na ile ta cena jest naprawd=
  17902. =EA
  17903. atrakcyjna zwa=BFywszy na mo=BFliwo=B6ci drukarki i jej ewentualnego
  17904. zastosowania z Amisi=B1. Bardzo by=B3bym wdzi=EAczny za uwagi od
  17905. u=BFytkownik=F3w. No dobra, tyle mo=BFna wyczyta=E6 z broszurki:
  17906.  
  17907. Drukarka kolorowa. Chechy u=BFytkowe:
  17908. =B7 drukarka kolorowa
  17909. =B7 liczba g=B3owic drukuj=B1cych - dwie
  17910. =B7 56 dysz mono i 48 kolor
  17911. =B7 1 str/min kolor, 4 str/min czer=F1
  17912. =B7 rozdzielczo=B6=E6 dla koloru i czerni 600x300 dpi.
  17913. =B7 wyg=B3adzanie krzywych PQET
  17914. =B7 mikroprocesor Samsung na bazie MC68EC000 20 MHz
  17915. =B7 emulacja HP PCL3 i Lexmark HBP
  17916. =B7 bufor 128 kB
  17917. =B7 pojemnik 100 kartek
  17918. =B7 ha=B3as 48 dB
  17919. =B7 wydajno=B6=E6 cartridge'a mono 1000 str przy 5% zaczernieniu
  17920.  
  17921. -- =
  17922.  
  17923.  +-Misha/El Condor Software-------------misha@friko2.onet.pl
  17924.  | A1200T / '040 / 34 MB RAM / 850 MB HDD / 4x CD / USR 33.6 =
  17925.  
  17926.  +--------------Life starts at '030, impotence starts at '86
  17927.  
  17928. From owner-amigapl  Mon Mar 16 23:55:10 1998
  17929. Received: from student.uci.agh.edu.pl (ramix@student.uci.agh.edu.pl [149.156.98.60]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA07699 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 23:27:09 +0100 (MET)
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  17931.        id XAA27655 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 23:27:29 +0100 (MET)
  17932. Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 23:27:29 +0100 (MET)
  17933. From: Grzegorz Junka <ramix@student.uci.agh.edu.pl>
  17934. X-Sender: ramix@student
  17935. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  17936. Subject: Re: PPC do A1200
  17937. In-Reply-To: <1050.377T1716T7431820@silesia.top.pl>
  17938. Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.95.980316231941.19502H-100000@student>
  17939. MIME-Version: 1.0
  17940. Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-2
  17941. Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE
  17942.  
  17943. > A ja mam problem - co kupi=E6? Chodzi g=B3=F3wnie o processor 68k. W tej =
  17944. chwili
  17945. > mam 040/40 i nie wystarcza. Program=F3w na PPC jeszcze niewiele, wi=EAc c=
  17946. zy
  17947. > inwestowa=E6 w 060/50, czy mo=BFe kupi=E6 bez procesora i prze=B3o=BFy=E6=
  17948.  z Blizzarda?
  17949. > Szkoda karty, kt=F3r=B1 mo=BFna by sprzeda=E6, ale z drugiej strony PPC z=
  17950.  060
  17951. > kosztuje znacznie wi=EAcej. Gdyby tylko by=B3y PPC z 040/40...
  17952.  
  17953. Ja swojego Blizka 40/40 poltora roku temu kupilem za 1000 (normalnie byly
  17954. po 1100). A teraz najtanszy PPC do a1200 (160Mhz) z 40/25 kosztuje 1400.
  17955. (czyli taniej niz Bliz 060/50, ktory od PPC jest wolniejszy).
  17956. Skoro juz ppc sa na rynku, mozesz byc pewien, ze w cigu 2-3 miesiecy
  17957. pojawia sie przkompilowane przynajmniej programy pochodzace z innych
  17958. platform (unixowe playery mp3, avi, xanim, itp), a moze i caly linux
  17959. (proby juz byly). Reszta to tez kwestia czasu. W koncu nie tylko Ty masz
  17960. dosc zabojczej predkosci m68k. Z drugiej strony, do systemu i
  17961. dotychczasowych programow w zupelnosci wystarczy 40/25, a nowe i tak beda
  17962. w wersjach na PPC. Jak dla mnie, najlepiej zainwestowac od razu, bo
  17963. pozniej, jak zwykle turbo stanieja, wymiana na ppc nie bedzie sie juz
  17964. oplacac (a konieczna na pewno bedzie).
  17965.  
  17966. --
  17967. ,x80Y^"=09Member of Amiga Promotion Group and fanatic AMIGA user
  17968. $0+'=09Grzegorz Junka "Bastian"
  17969. 08=09ramix@student.uci.agh.edu.pl    bastian@apg.plukwa.pdi.net
  17970. 0'
  17971. 9=09A1200Inf 040/40Bliz 32Mb 1.6Gb 12x 1942S CN40BC
  17972.  
  17973. From owner-amigapl  Mon Mar 16 23:55:18 1998
  17974. Received: from mx1.polbox.com (root@mx1.polbox.com [195.116.5.16]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA07736 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 23:48:58 +0100 (MET)
  17975. Received: from polbox.com (Gobo@ppp65.bydgoszcz.tpnet.pl [194.204.139.65])
  17976.     by mx1.polbox.com (8.8.8/rev-A0) with SMTP id XAA30196
  17977.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 23:52:07 +0100
  17978. From: Adam Lewandowski <leware3@polbox.com>
  17979. Reply-To: Adam Lewandowski <leware3@polbox.com>
  17980. To: amigapl@amiga.com.pl
  17981. Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 23:32:33 +0100
  17982. Message-ID: <yam7379.1687.18598856@smtp.polbox.com>
  17983. In-Reply-To: <19980316113913.11346@plukwa.pdi.net>
  17984. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  17985. Organization: Chata privata
  17986. Subject: Re: Attache 600 kilo
  17987. MIME-Version: 1.0
  17988. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
  17989. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  17990.  
  17991. Dnia 16-Mar-98, Artur Pietruk napisa=EE:
  17992. >On Fri, Mar 13, 1998 at 07:00:10PM +0100, Marcin Ostrowski wrote:
  17993. >> >Bez przesady... A w attachu moze byc tez tekst (np. ciekawy
  17994. >> >artykul dolaczony do maila na zyczenie listowiczow).
  17995. >> =
  17996.  
  17997. >> Oooo! A pamietam ze na poczatku nie wolno bylo dolaczac ZADNYCH
  17998. >> attachmentow... Milo ze odchodzimy od takiego ortodoksyzmu.
  17999. >> Oczywiscie ze czasem trzeba cos do listu dodac, jakis tekst
  18000. >> na przyklad, ale pewna granica powinna istniec! - przeciez
  18001. >> nikt nie doda do listu przepisanej ksiazki (600 kilo) !
  18002.  
  18003. >Czy ja pisalem ze chce attache 600 kilo?
  18004.  
  18005. Cze=F4=EA!
  18006.  
  18007. Moim zdaniem na li=F4cie nie powinno by=EA takich numer=F3w.
  18008. Jak kto=F4 chce dodatki w listach to na *priva*.
  18009.  
  18010. A tak swoj=E2 drog=E2. Tydzie=EF temu do firmy, gdzie pracuj=EB, przysz=EE=
  18011. a emailem
  18012. pro=F4ba o sterowniki do karty SCSI Adaptec'a na blache.
  18013. Wys=EEa=EEem. Attache mia=EE #1,3 MB#!
  18014. Na szcz=EB=F4cie nie by=EEa to osoba prywatna, ale jak chcieli ...
  18015.  
  18016. Pozdrawiam!
  18017.  
  18018. LeWaR
  18019.  
  18020. -- =
  18021.  
  18022.                  -+-------------------------------------+-
  18023.                /  |      LeWaR - Adam Lewandowski       | \     =
  18024.  
  18025.               |   | A1200T 040/33MHz 34MB RAM 2,5GB HDD |  |
  18026.                \  |         leware3@polbox.com          | /
  18027.                  -+-------------------------------------+-
  18028.  
  18029.  
  18030. ----- [ REKLAMA / ADVERTISEMENT ] ------------------------
  18031.  
  18032. Zostan Autoryzowanym Partnerem Polbox On-Line Service!
  18033. Szczegoly:  http://www.polbox.pl/98partner.html
  18034.  
  18035. ----------------------------------------------------------
  18036.  
  18037. From owner-amigapl  Mon Mar 16 23:55:24 1998
  18038. Received: from mx1.polbox.com (root@mx1.polbox.com [195.116.5.16]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA07734 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 23:48:53 +0100 (MET)
  18039. Received: from polbox.com (Gobo@ppp65.bydgoszcz.tpnet.pl [194.204.139.65])
  18040.     by mx1.polbox.com (8.8.8/rev-A0) with SMTP id XAA30183
  18041.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 23:52:02 +0100
  18042. From: Adam Lewandowski <leware3@polbox.com>
  18043. Reply-To: Adam Lewandowski <leware3@polbox.com>
  18044. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  18045. Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 23:33:10 +0100
  18046. Message-ID: <yam7379.537.18598856@smtp.polbox.com>
  18047. In-Reply-To: <yam7.1180.1746669400@grendel.sylaba.poznan.pl>
  18048. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  18049. Organization: Chata privata
  18050. Subject: Re: Amigowe imprezy
  18051. MIME-Version: 1.0
  18052. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
  18053. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  18054.  
  18055. Dnia 08-Sty-78, Bartlomiej Dubik napisa=EE:
  18056. >Czy ktos  zlistowiczow ma informacje na temat imprez amigowych w =
  18057.  
  18058. >roku biezacym?
  18059. >Odpowiedzi prosze na priv.
  18060. >-- =
  18061.  
  18062. Heja!
  18063.  
  18064. Mnie te=FB interesuj=E2 takie sprawy. A mo=FBe by taki list wys=EEa=EA na=
  18065.  list=EB?
  18066. Ch=EBtnych by=EEo by wi=EBcej i mo=FBna by sobie rozplanowa=EA uk=EEad im=
  18067. prez
  18068. do odwiedzenia.
  18069.  
  18070. Pozdrawiam
  18071.  
  18072. LeWaR
  18073.  
  18074. -- =
  18075.  
  18076.                  -+-------------------------------------+-
  18077.                /  |      #LeWaR# - Adam Lewandowski       | \     =
  18078.  
  18079.               |   | A1200T 040/33MHz 34MB RAM 2,5GB HDD |  |
  18080.                \  |         leware3@polbox.com          | /
  18081.                  -+-------------------------------------+-
  18082.  
  18083.  
  18084. ----- [ REKLAMA / ADVERTISEMENT ] ------------------------
  18085.  
  18086. Zostan Autoryzowanym Partnerem Polbox On-Line Service!
  18087. Szczegoly:  http://www.polbox.pl/98partner.html
  18088.  
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  18090.  
  18091. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 17 00:24:49 1998
  18092. Received: from student.uci.agh.edu.pl (ramix@student.uci.agh.edu.pl [149.156.98.60]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA07806 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 23:58:23 +0100 (MET)
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  18095. Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 23:58:43 +0100 (MET)
  18096. From: Grzegorz Junka <ramix@student.uci.agh.edu.pl>
  18097. X-Sender: ramix@student
  18098. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  18099. Subject: Re: YAM i Miami nie =?iso-8859-1?Q?pracuj=E2?= poprawnie z moim kontem na SHACO.PL - Help Me !
  18100. In-Reply-To: <yam7378.418.1747621712@box43.gnet.pl>
  18101. Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.95.980316235520.19502K-100000@student>
  18102. MIME-Version: 1.0
  18103. Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-2
  18104. Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE
  18105.  
  18106. >      Gdy powiadomi=B3em go o tych problemach stwierdzi=B3, =BFe gdy pr=F3=
  18107. bnie
  18108. > =B6ci=B1gn=B1=B3 poczt=EA z mojego konta to wszystko by=B3o pod windowsam=
  18109. i OK. i mo=BFe
  18110. > mnie zaprosi=E6 do firmy na demonstracje. Gdy napisa=B3em mu, =BFe mam Am=
  18111. ig=EA
  18112. > stwierdzi=B3, =BFebym sobie zmieni=B3 komputer, bo Amiga do I-netu to si=
  18113. =EA wog=F3le
  18114. > nie nadaje.  Wkurw.. rozpocze=B3em atak Winkillerem - taki progs do wiesz=
  18115. ania
  18116.  
  18117. Jak myslicie, powinnismy im pokazac, za Amigowcy sa razem? I ze wszyscy
  18118. uzywaja Amigi? Mam pytanie do Radmara, na jaki adres mam wyslac "swoje
  18119. zdane": admina, firmy, czy na wszystkie? Moze by tak na priva jakies
  18120. blizsze szczegoly tej sprawy?
  18121.  
  18122. Nie bedzie (byle) pecetowiec plul nam w twarz...
  18123.  
  18124. --
  18125. ,x80Y^"=09Member of Amiga Promotion Group and fanatic AMIGA user
  18126. $0+'=09Grzegorz Junka "Bastian"
  18127. 08=09ramix@student.uci.agh.edu.pl    bastian@apg.plukwa.pdi.net
  18128. 0'
  18129. 9=09A1200Inf 040/40Bliz 32Mb 1.6Gb 12x 1942S CN40BC
  18130.  
  18131. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 17 00:24:57 1998
  18132. Received: from plum.dwd.interkom.pl (dwd.interkom.pl [195.150.21.98]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA07880 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 00:22:50 +0100 (MET)
  18133. Received: from t-bone.swatcats (pppa93.krakow.tpnet.pl [195.116.249.99])
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  18135.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 00:23:41 +0100
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  18138.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 00:07:36 +0100
  18139. Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 00:07:36 +0100 (CET)
  18140. From: Michal Wojcik <maluszek@dwd.interkom.pl>
  18141. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  18142. Subject: Re: Pomysl - Tani Tower do A1200
  18143. In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.3.96.980316184504.2139B-100000@willow.oi.pz.zgora.pl>
  18144. Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.980316225105.589A-100000@t-bone.swatcats>
  18145. MIME-Version: 1.0
  18146. Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-2
  18147. Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE
  18148.  
  18149. On Mon, 16 Mar 1998, Dariusz Woloch wrote:
  18150. > > Tu widz=EA pole do popisu dla Amigowc=F3w. Przecie=BF zrobienie takiej
  18151. > > p=B3yty to tylko kwestia wywiercenia paru dziurek w blasze metalowej - =
  18152. koszty s=B1
  18153. > > niewielkie. Kto=B6 m=F3g=B3by robi=E6 takie tylne =B6cianki (rozk=B3ad =
  18154. otwor=F3w w obudowach
  18155. > > jest chyba ten sam) i p=B3yty do monta=BFu naszej p=B3yty A1200 i sprze=
  18156. dawa=E6
  18157. > > powiedzmy za 20 z=B3 za komplet. Potem tylko dokupi=E6 pecetow=B1 obudo=
  18158. w=EA midi-tower
  18159. > > i zrobione. A firmy produkuj=B1ce towerki by si=EA w=B6ciek=B3y.
  18160. >=20
  18161. > Ino znalezc  kogos z warsztatem i zacieciem do pilowania metalu:))=20
  18162.  
  18163. Rozdzia=B3 pierwszy - rozmiar obudowy.
  18164.  
  18165. Niestety, =BFeby wyprowadzi=E6 gniazdka bezpo=B6rednio na tyln=B1 =B6ciank=
  18166. =EA bez
  18167. przed=B3u=BFania trzeba mie=E6 obudow=EA BIG. MIDI jest za ma=B3a (no chyba=
  18168. , =BFe
  18169. moja MIDI w grzybie to MINI). Nawet ATX. Po prostu nie zmie=B6ci si=EA
  18170. turbo.
  18171.  
  18172. Rozdzia=B3 drugi - tylna =B6cianka.
  18173.  
  18174. Hmm... Nie mog=EA generalizowa=E6, ale na podstawi=EA analizy paru
  18175. przypadk=F3w mog=EA =B6mia=B3o wysun=B1=E6 hipotez=EA, =BFe wymiana ca=B3ej=
  18176.  tylnej
  18177. =B6cianki jest bardzo trudna do zrobienia w warunkch domowych z uwagi na
  18178. fakt, =BFe stanowi ona integraln=B1 cz=EA=B6=E6 szkieletu wie=BFy (tak jest=
  18179.  w moim
  18180. przypadku i w paru innych jakie widzi=B3em - po wyci=EAciu tylnej =B6cianki
  18181. obudowa najprawdopodobniej si=EA rozsypie). Wi=EAksze pole do popisu mamy
  18182. w przypadku ATX'=F3w. Tam mo=BFna wyj=B1=E6 kawa=B3ek o d=B3ugo=B6ci ok 30 =
  18183. cm.
  18184. Wystarczy=B3o by to do rozmieszczenia gniazdek od antenowego do
  18185. zewn=EAtrznej stacji dysk=F3w. Mysz i joy mo=BFna by przed=B3u=BFy=E6 i umi=
  18186. e=B6ci=E6 w
  18187. dodatkowych otworach, kt=F3re ju=BF s=B1 w obudowie, a zasilanie i tak do
  18188. szcz=EA=B6cia na zewn=B1trz nie jest potrzebne. Niestety - je=BFeli p=B3yty
  18189. g=B3=F3wne w obudowach BIG ATX nie s=B1 mocowane o ok. 1 cm wy=BFej od dna =
  18190. ni=BF
  18191. w moim MIDI ATX'ie (a najprawdopodobniej nie s=B1) mo=BFemy o wszystkim
  18192. zapomnie=E6. Szeroko=B6=E6 otworu jest dobra, ale lokacja z=B3a - p=B3yta s=
  18193. i=EA w
  18194. ten spos=F3b nie zmie=B6ci. B=EAdzie wystawa=E6 kawa=B3ek gniazda zasilaj=
  18195. =B1cego i
  18196. TYLKO kawa=B3ek gniazda flopa.
  18197. Druga sprawa to z=B3=B1cza Zorro. Sloty PCI s=B1 mocowane bezpo=B6rednio na
  18198. grzybicznych p=B3ytach, podczas gdy sloty Zorro jest umieszczone na
  18199. dodatkowej p=B3ycie ok 5 cm nad p=B3yt=B1 g=B3=F3wn=B1 Amigi. Oznacza to, =
  18200. =BFe
  18201. istnieje prawdopodobie=F1stwo, =BFe nie wszystkie z=B3=B1czki z kart Zorro
  18202. b=EAd=B1 dost=EApne (oczywi=B6cie przy za=B3o=BFeniu wariantu 'bezdemolkowy=
  18203.  ATX').
  18204. Trzecia sprawa to problem wykonania takiej blaszki. Oczywi=B6cie mo=BFna
  18205. si=EA m=EAczy=E6 wiertark=B1 i pi=B3k=B1 do metalu, ale znam rozwi=B1zanie =
  18206. prostsze,
  18207. estetyczniejsze i niestety dro=BFsze. M=F3j znajomy prowadzi firm=EA, kt=F3=
  18208. ra
  18209. zajmuje si=EA laserowym wycinaniem prawie dowolnych kszta=B3t=F3w w
  18210. metaria=B3ach p=B3askich (blacha, tworzywa sztuczne, metale kolorowe). U
  18211. nich niejaka firma elbox zamawia=B3a pocz=B1tkowo cz=EA=B6ci do swoich obud=
  18212. =F3w.
  18213. Niestety z uwagi na fakt, =BFe ca=B3a impreza jest dosy=E6 kosztowna - nie
  18214. umiem powiedzie=E6 na ile, ale obawiam si=EA, =BFe wykonanie przekroczy=B3o=
  18215.  by
  18216. 20 z=B3 (na m=F3j gust jakie=B6 30 - 50 z=B3, ale mog=EA si=EA myli=E6) elb=
  18217. ox
  18218. zrezygnowa=B3.
  18219.  
  18220. Rozdzia=B3 trzeci - Por=F3wnanie koszt=F3w
  18221.  
  18222. Przejd=BCmy do meritum. Oto ma=B3y kosztorysik wykonany przeze mnie:
  18223. - BIG ATX ................250 z=B3
  18224. - blaszka .................50 z=B3
  18225. - interfejs klawiatury ....60 z=B3
  18226. Ca=B3o=B6=E6 zamyka si=EA w kwocie ok 350 z=B3 a za tyle to mam ju=BF TopTo=
  18227. wer
  18228. Giftu, albo jak=B1kolwiek wie=BF=EA Mikronika z gwarancj=B1, =BFe jak kupi=
  18229. =EA
  18230. sloty Zorro to wszystko b=EAdzie pasowa=E6 (przynajmniej tak=B1 mam
  18231. nadziej=EA). Gdybo kto=B6 jednak si=EA zdecydowa=B3 na wymian=EA ca=B3ej ty=
  18232. lniej
  18233. =B6cianki przypuszczam, =BFe musia=B3by zap=B3aci=E6 ok 50 - 80 z=B3. S=B1d=
  18234. z=EA, =BFe
  18235. lepiej kupi=E6 jak=B1=E6 dedykowan=B1 Amidze wie=BF=EA.
  18236.  
  18237. Zako=F1czenie
  18238.  
  18239. Na zako=F1czenie kilka uwag do powy=BFszego. Po pierwsze ceny mog=B1 by=E6
  18240. zawy=BFone z powodu faktu, =BFe: studiuj=EA zarz=B1dzanie i tam nauczyli mn=
  18241. ie
  18242. =BFeby zawsze rozpatrywa=E6 przypadek pesymistycznie; nie by=B3em u mojego
  18243. znajomego dosy=E6 dawno, a s=B3ysza=B3em, =BFe ostatnio dokona=B3 jakiego=
  18244. =B6
  18245. upgradu i mo=BFe obni=BFy=B3 koszty. Po drugie przepraszam, za ogromniasty
  18246. elaborat, ale my=B6l=EA, =BFe mo=BFe si=EA przyda=E6 paru osobom. Po trzeci=
  18247. e gdyby
  18248. kto=B6 si=EA chcia=B3 w jakiej=B6 sprawie skontaktowa=E6 z firm=B1 niech wa=
  18249. li na
  18250. priva - wszystko obja=B6ni=EA.
  18251.  
  18252. Pozdrawiam
  18253.  
  18254. Maluszek
  18255.  
  18256. PS. Pro=B6ba do posiadaczy towerek, znaj=B1cych si=EA na rysunku techniczny=
  18257. m
  18258. i wymiarowaniu. Prosi=B3bym o zwymiarowany szkic ca=B3ej tylnej =B6cianki.
  18259. M=F3g=B3bym si=EA dowiedzie=E6 o koszty wykonania i mogliby=B6my to jeszcze=
  18260.  raz
  18261. przedyskutowa=E6. Z tego co wiem im wi=EAksza partia tym ni=BFsza cena.
  18262.  
  18263.       Michal "Maluszek" Wojcik, maluszek@plum.dwd.interkom.pl
  18264.   m   http://plum.dwd.interkom.pl/~maluszek (rebuild mode)
  18265.  <!\  A1200/060-50/RAM16MB/HDD1.2GB/FDD1.8MB/OS31&Linux(n/a)
  18266.  _^_  i586-200/RAM32MB/HDD2.1GB/FDD1.4MB/Linux&BS
  18267.       +48 12 6588884, ul. Luzycka 49/43, PL 30-658 Krakow
  18268.  
  18269. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 17 00:25:06 1998
  18270. Received: from opnt.optimus.wroc.pl (opnt.optimus.wroc.pl [195.117.195.3]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA07866 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 00:19:51 +0100 (MET)
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  18273.  Tue, 17 Mar 1998 00:18:42 +0100
  18274. From: Maciej Matyka <maq@opnt.optimus.wroc.pl>
  18275. To: amigapl@amiga.com.pl
  18276. Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 23:57:21 +0100
  18277. Message-ID: <yam7379.1057.2017743752@opnt.optimus.wroc.pl>
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  18279. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  18280. Subject: re[2]: mUSASHI and AmigaOS
  18281. MIME-Version: 1.0
  18282. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
  18283. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  18284.  
  18285. Dnia 16-Mar-98, Grzegorz Juraszek napisal(a):
  18286. >Hello Maciej Matyka, on 16-Mar-98    00:01:02 you wrote:
  18287. >>Witam!
  18288.  
  18289. >>>Wprowadzenie:
  18290. >>>ACS 1/98 s. 25
  18291. >>>"mUSASHI:Ot=F3rz...Sama Amiga ma CHORY system operacyjny (w por=F3wnan=
  18292. iu do
  18293. >>>innych)"
  18294.  
  18295. >>>Mo=BFna to traktowa=E6 jako obraza.
  18296. >>Ale chyba nie Ciebie?
  18297.  
  18298. >Ja te=BF mam prawo wyrazi=E6 swoje zdanie o nim, na przyk=B3ad pisz=B1c =
  18299. jego ksyw=EA
  18300. >ma=B3=B1 liter=B1. Nie b=EAd=EA tego jednak robi=E6, znam inne =B6rodki =
  18301. wyrazu.
  18302.  
  18303. Po prostu nie lubie, jak ktos traktuje kogos innego z pogarda nawet go ni=
  18304. e
  18305. znajac, tylko slyszac (czytajac), co powiedzial.
  18306.  
  18307. >Mnie pan Musashi obrazi=B3. Wiem, mam emocjonalny stosunek do Amigi i pe=
  18308. wnie
  18309. >to jest wada, ale nie znamierzam tego zmienia=E6, te=BF mam do tego praw=
  18310. o,
  18311. >podobnie jak do w=B3asnego zdania o Musashim.
  18312.  
  18313. No chyba, ze tak to odbierasz, to sorry.
  18314.  
  18315. >>Kontynuowalem, jednak poza samym wywiadem.
  18316.  
  18317. >W kt=F3rym numerze ACS?
  18318.  
  18319. ha! i tu mnie masz :) W ACS sie to nie ukazalo. Po prostu rowniez mialem
  18320. watpliwosci, czy jest to trafne sformulowanie, ale po zapoznaniu sie z
  18321. dokladniejszym wywodem na ten temat zrozumialem i do tego samego zachecam=
  18322.  
  18323. Ciebie i wszystkich innych zainteresowanych - lepiej chyba zdobyc informa=
  18324. cje
  18325. na ten temat u samego zrodla. Nie mam zamiaru wychodzic tu na jakiegos
  18326. fanatycznego obronce Musashiego. Osobiscie nie lubie, kiedy ktos dyskutuj=
  18327. e
  18328. na moj temat za moimi plecami, Musashi pewnie tez nie.
  18329.  
  18330. >>Stwierdzilem, ze ogol odbiorcow
  18331. >>ACS nie bedzie tym szczegolnie zainteresowany, a kogos takiego jak Ty s=
  18332. kloni
  18333. >>do nawiazania kontaktu z Musashim (z czego bylbym b. zadowolony, on zre=
  18334. szta
  18335. >>tez).
  18336.  
  18337. >Mam powa=BFne w=B1tpliwo=B6ci, czy pan Musashi by=B3by zadowolony z kont=
  18338. aktu ze
  18339. >mn=B1 i nawzajem.
  18340.  
  18341. Co do "nawzajem" to pewnie nie masz watpliwosci, ale zachecam, mozesz sie=
  18342.  
  18343. mocno zdziwic stosunkiem Musashiego do innych amigowcow.
  18344.  
  18345. > Staram si=EA nie mie=E6 do czynienia z lud=BCmi o takim podej=B6ciu
  18346. >do tego i innych temat=F3w, =B6wiat a=BF taki znowu ma=B3y nie jest.
  18347.  
  18348. To co powiedzial Musashi w udzielonym wywiadzie jest jego skrzywionym obr=
  18349. azem.
  18350. TAK WIEM - moim obowiazkiem bylo przedstawienie jego osoby takiej jaka je=
  18351. st,
  18352. ale to nie ja odpowiadalem na te pytania.
  18353.  
  18354. >>Sam wywiad w finalnej wersji zajmowal grubo powyzej jednej strony -
  18355. >>niestety musial wejsc na strone i wydaje mi sie, ze w pierwszej kolejno=
  18356. sci
  18357. >>obciete zostalyby wywody na temat systemu operacyjnego Amigi, poniewaz
  18358. wywiad
  18359. >>mial dotyczyc osoby Musashiego, a nie AmigaOS.
  18360.  
  18361. >Wywiad dotyczy=B3 rzeczywi=B6cie osoby pana Musashiego i jego pogl=B1d=F3=
  18362. w na
  18363. >w=B3asn=B1 osob=EA.
  18364. > Nie znalaz=B3o si=EA w nim natomiast to, co mnie osobi=B6cie -
  18365. >i pewnie wielu aktywnych scenowc=F3w - by interesowa=B3o - jak osi=B1gn=B1=
  18366. =B3 swoj=B1
  18367. >pozycj=EA jako kodera. Nie brak=B3o natomiast miejsca na filozofi=EA, or=
  18368. az na
  18369. >informacj=EA, =BFe pan Musashi programuje obecnie w
  18370.  
  18371. Przeczytaj jeszcze raz pytania w wywiadzie - to staralem sie od niego
  18372. wyciagnac, ale to nie takie proste. Musashi skapo opisywal to co robil, z=
  18373. a to
  18374. chetnie i bogato rozpisywal sie na swoj temat - no coz jak mowie, to nie =
  18375. ja
  18376. odpowiadalem na zadane mi pytania...
  18377.  
  18378. > VisualC pod wielozadaniowym
  18379. >Windowsem (jak=BFe pi=EAkne oksymorony).
  18380.  
  18381. Musashi zawsze kodowal i koduje dalej w asemblerze. C++ wymuszaja na nim
  18382. studia. Ale tu sie nie bede spieral - odsylam do Musashiego.
  18383.  
  18384. >Poza tym przyznajesz si=EA dobrowolnie do manipulacji (chyba nie musz=EA=
  18385.  
  18386. >przypomnia=E6, =BFe sprzecznej z etyk=B1 dziennikarsk=B1), poniewa=BF wy=
  18387. ci=EAte
  18388. >fragmenty zmieniaj=B1 - wed=B3ug Twoich s=B3=F3w - posta=E6 rzeczy.
  18389.  
  18390. Nie wyciete fragmenty, tylko sama wypowiedz Musashiego (np. wspomniany
  18391. fragment, kiedy mowi o swojej ksywce, czy o tym, ze jest "artysta, mistrz=
  18392. em") =
  18393.  
  18394. Musashi powiedzial co ma do
  18395. powiedzenia - w jego oczach OS amigi jest chory i do dyskusji na ten tema=
  18396. t z
  18397. samym zainteresowanym zachecam. Wytlumaczylem juz o co mu chodzilo, po
  18398. dokladniejsze informacje odsylam do niego. Taka byla jego odpowiedz i tak=
  18399. a
  18400. zostala
  18401. zamieszczona. Rozwiniecie tego watku - owszem bylo kontynuowane, ale na
  18402. zasadzie luznej dyskusji, ktorej przytoczenie, zajelo by tyle miejsca, ze=
  18403.  nie
  18404. bylo by miejsca na inne pytania (i odpowiedzi). W przypadku zas, rozpocze=
  18405. cia
  18406. dyskusji na ten temat i znow zakonczenia w jakims innym, wcale nie wiazac=
  18407. ym,
  18408. miejscu pewnie znow bylbym posadzony o zatajenie prawdy i manipulacje.
  18409.  
  18410. Jesli zas chodzi o wyciete fragmenty - wywiad po skroceniu poszedl do
  18411. autoryzacji i  przeszedl ja pomyslnie. Musashi wiedzial co bedzie wydruko=
  18412. wane
  18413. i o ZADNYCH manipulacjach nie ma tu mowy. "Skrzywiony obraz" Musashiego t=
  18414. o
  18415. wylacznie wina jego odpowiedzi, ktore (i to jest zdanie ludzi, ktorzy go =
  18416. dlugo
  18417. znaja) udzielil nie oddaja prawdy o nim jako o czlowieku. Niestety nie mo=
  18418. glem
  18419. o tym
  18420. wiedziec ani w czasie przeprowadzania wywiadu z nim, ani wtedy gdy materi=
  18421. al
  18422. szedl do skladu.
  18423.  
  18424. >Zostawi=B3e=B6
  18425. >jedynie najbardziej kontrowersyjne zdanie (mocne lepsze?). Nie jest to z=
  18426. byt
  18427. >rozs=B1dne posuni=EAcie w obecnej sytuacji Amigi. Nie sugeruj=EA tu zata=
  18428. jania
  18429. >prawdy i pisania, =BFe wszystko jest super, wi=EAc o co tym pecetowcom c=
  18430. hodzi,
  18431. >ale z jednej strony "legenda sceny", a z drugiej "chory system". Skoro j=
  18432. u=BF
  18433. >wyci=B1=B3e=B6 tyle, mo=BFna by=B3o zrezygnowa=E6 z tego w=B1tku.
  18434.  
  18435. Fakt faktem, ze Musashi dal mi wolna reke, zeby to przeredagowac tak jak =
  18436. chce
  18437. (ja tez mialem watpliwosci) - jednak nie zrobilem tego. Bije sie w piersi=
  18438. , bo
  18439. mozna bylo uniknac tej dyskusji. =
  18440.  
  18441.  
  18442. >>> Mnie
  18443. >>>zatka=B3o. Mo=BFe kto=B6 z czytaj=B1cych zna tego filozofa i spyta si=EA=
  18444.  go o co mu
  18445. >>>chodzi=B3o?
  18446.  
  18447. >>Moze przestanmy traktowac go z pogarda - to wielki czlowiek, ktorego za=
  18448. slugi
  18449. >>mozna by dlugo wymieniac, nie zmieni tego troche skrzywiony (niestety..=
  18450. =2E)
  18451. >>obraz jego osoby przedstawiony w ACS
  18452.  
  18453. >Czyli po raz kolejny przyznajesz si=EA do brakor=F3bstwa? Sugeruj=EA zwr=
  18454. ot
  18455. >honorarium autorskiego do redakcji oraz powa=BFne przemy=B6lenia na tema=
  18456. t
  18457. >dalszej kariery dziennikarskiej.
  18458.  
  18459. Heh... Chyba mnie nie zrozumiales, ale powyzej juz chyba wyjasnilem - ten=
  18460.  
  18461. nieprawdziwy obraz samego siebie stworzyl on sam i tylko sam siebie moze =
  18462. o to
  18463. winic.
  18464.  
  18465. >>(stad pewnie ten filozof...) - wiec
  18466. >>mysle, ze i Ty mozesz zaczac go traktowac z szacunkiem (szczegolnie, ze=
  18467.  jak
  18468. >>widze po prostu go nie znasz)
  18469.  
  18470. >Nie widz=EA najmniejszego powodu, =BFeby szanowa=E6 cokolwiek, poza jego=
  18471.  
  18472. >dorobkiem koderskim.
  18473.  
  18474. Nie mowie o czymkowiek tylko kimkolwiek. Szacunek nalezy sie kazdemu, naw=
  18475. et
  18476. Musashiemu, ktory obrazil kolege Miko i Ciebie wypowiadajac sie niepochle=
  18477. bnie
  18478. na temat systemu operacyjnego Amigi. EOW (end of watek :) bo jakims
  18479. moralizatorem  to ja nie jestem - po prostu drazni mnie takie malpowanie
  18480. zwyczajow scenowej "elity" i pisanie ksyw innych ludzi z malej litery...
  18481.  
  18482. > Ja te=BF go nie znam, czego po wspomnianym wywiadzie
  18483. >wcale nie =BFa=B3uj=EA.
  18484.  
  18485. Co moge powiedziec - przykro mi, ze Musashi nie wywarl na tobie pozytywne=
  18486. go
  18487. wrazenia, jako czlowiek. Ale to juz jego zasluga.
  18488.  
  18489. >>> Ja bynajmniej chia=B3bym wiedzie=E6 w czym AmigaOS
  18490. >>>(multitasting) odstaje od innych i jakich? Oczywi=B6cie same konkrety.=
  18491.  
  18492.  
  18493. >[tutaj konkrety, jaki to AmigaOS jest u=B3omny, a=BF si=EA zdziwi=B3em, =
  18494. =BFe jeszcze
  18495. >w og=F3le kto=B6 go u=BFywa i to dzia=B3a]
  18496.  
  18497. ghm... no moze mnie ponioslo, ale na temat zalet OSa amigi moglbym napisa=
  18498. c
  18499. kilkakrotnie wiecej i przytoczyc dziala wiekszego kalibru przeciw tezie
  18500. przedstawionej przez Musashiego. Brak ochrony pamieci Amigi w jego mniema=
  18501. niu
  18502. jest choroba systemu, otco.
  18503.  
  18504. >>Rozmawialem z nim o tym - stwierdzil, ze moge to przeredagowac, jesli m=
  18505. i to
  18506. >>nie pasuje. Stwierdzilem jednak, ze nie bede za bardzo ingerowal w jego=
  18507.  
  18508. >>wypowiedz
  18509.  
  18510. >Sam sobie zaprzeczasz. Wy=BFej twierdzisz, =BFe zrobi=B3e=B6 spore ci=EA=
  18511. cia.
  18512.  
  18513. Ciecia poszly pod jego nadzorem, a nie zmienilem sensu z innych powodow (=
  18514. i nie
  18515. chodzi tu o "mocniej? lepiej?"). Pomyslalem, ze skloni to czesc z Was do
  18516. nawiazania z nim jakiegos kontaktu, przypomnienia mu o tym, ze amiga istn=
  18517. ieje
  18518. i trzyma sie dobrze. W moim mniemaniu nie zrobilem niczego zlego nie
  18519. zmieniajac jego wypowiedzi.
  18520.  
  18521. >>- to mial byc wywiad, nie cukiereczkowate opowiadanko o starym scenowcu=
  18522. =2E
  18523.  
  18524. >Brawo, oby tak dalej, a b=EAdziecie pisa=E6 dla kilkudziesi=EAciu os=F3b=
  18525. , kt=F3re
  18526. >maj=B1 serdecznie gdzie=B6 czyje=B6 opinie i nie pozb=EAd=B1 si=EA Amig.=
  18527.  
  18528.  
  18529. Wypoeidzi Musashiego raczej mogly podniesc na duchu tych, ktorzy czekaja
  18530. jeszcze na produkcje spod jego skrzydel. Wypowiedzial sie on tez dosc
  18531. pochlebnie o projekcie ppc, zapowiedzial (i uwierzcie mi - mozna na to
  18532. liczyc), ze cos jeszcze dla naszych amig stworzy, a jedyny fragment w kto=
  18533. rym
  18534. nie wypowiedzial sie on pochlebnie, to wlasnie fr. o chorobie amigi. Moze=
  18535.  nie
  18536. przesadzajmy z tym zniecheceniem przez wywiad?
  18537.  
  18538. >A gdyby tak zamiast nies=B3awnego wywiadu napisa=E6 artyku=B3 o tym, jak=
  18539.  to
  18540. >znakomity koder Musashi/Union prawie trzy lata temu zakodowa=B3 zapieraj=
  18541. =B1ce
  18542. >dech w piersiach demo TDTW (albo wcze=B6niejsze...), jak to u=BFy=B3 =B6=
  18543. wietnych
  18544. >procedur c2p d=B3ugo przed wszystkimi zachodnimi koderami i jak cudownie=
  18545.  
  18546. >spakowa=B3 zawartego w demie sampla na d=B3ugo przed tym, zanim algorytm=
  18547. y mpeg
  18548. >audio wesz=B3y do powszechnego u=BFycia? A w puencie co=B6 w stylu "dla =
  18549. takich
  18550. >chwil i dem warto mie=E6 Amig=EA"? My=B6l=EA, =BFe wszyscy byliby zadowo=
  18551. leni.
  18552.  
  18553. Hmm... no tak, ale w zamyslach mial byc to wywiad z Musashim i taki wlasn=
  18554. ie
  18555. powstal. Teraz tylko Musashi moze miec pretensje, ze w taki sposob przeds=
  18556. tawil
  18557. samego siebie. Pytalem o jego najwieksze osiagniecia - odpowiedzial tylko=
  18558. , ze
  18559. to najwieksze dopiero nastapi, sam obral taka droge...
  18560.  
  18561. >>Dosszlo do mnie juz wiele sygnalow na temat tego co powiedzial
  18562. >>Musashi. Cieszy fakt, ze czytelnicy bacznie zwracaja uwage na to co czy=
  18563. taja,
  18564.  
  18565. >Chyba ACS nie jest pismem brukowym, kt=F3re popularno=B6=E6 mierzy g=B3o=
  18566. =B6no=B6ci=B1
  18567. >skandali?
  18568.  
  18569. Heh.. no chyba raczej nie, prawda? =
  18570.  
  18571.  
  18572. >>smuci - ze zaden z tych sygnalow nie dotarl ani do mnie, ani do ACS ani=
  18573.  tym
  18574. >>bardziej do Musashiego.
  18575.  
  18576. >Przecie=BF dotar=B3 :)
  18577.  
  18578. nie powiem jakimi kretymi sciezkami... zaden z nich nie byl bezposrednio =
  18579. od
  18580. osoby, ktora chciala sie na ten temat wypowiedziec, tylko "cos tam slysza=
  18581. lem,
  18582. ze.."
  18583.  
  18584. >>W przypadku ewentualnych odpowiedzi na tego maila - prosze o /fwd na ko=
  18585. nto
  18586. >>maq@opnt.optimus.wroc.pl, poniewaz na razie nie moge sledzic bezposredn=
  18587. io
  18588. >>tego co dzieje sie na liscie.
  18589.  
  18590. >Zrobione. Ewentualne kolejne maile b=EAd=EA s=B3a=B3 wy=B3=B1cznie na pr=
  18591. iv, bo chocia=BF
  18592. >dyskusja niew=B1tpliwie dotyczy Amigi, ale skoro nie jeste=B6 na li=B6ci=
  18593. e, to nie
  18594. >ma sensu jej tu rozwija=E6.
  18595.  
  18596. dobrze tn jeszcze wysylam jednak na liste, zeby Twoj nie pozostal bez
  18597. odpowiedzi... :))
  18598.  
  18599. All: ponawiam prosbe,
  18600.  
  18601. >>A Ciebie Miko, oraz innych zainteresowanych ww wypowiedzia Musashiego,
  18602. >>zapraszam do dyskusji z samym zainteresowanym - jego email:
  18603. >>musashi@union.org.pl
  18604.  
  18605. >Nie s=B1dz=EA, =BFeby=B6my znale=BCli wsp=F3lne tematy.
  18606.  
  18607. a moze jednak warto sprobowac?
  18608.  
  18609. /// MaQ
  18610.  
  18611. -- =
  18612.  
  18613.                                    "AMIGA COMPUTER STUDIO"
  18614. Maciej Matyka | MaQ of GENETIC | scene coding * progamming
  18615. Amiga 1200/030.50/10MB/HD340MB | maq@opnt.optimus.wroc.pl
  18616. "Don't worry - nobody lives forever!"
  18617.  
  18618. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 17 00:25:18 1998
  18619. Received: from student.uci.agh.edu.pl (ramix@student.uci.agh.edu.pl [149.156.98.60]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA07834 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 00:01:31 +0100 (MET)
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  18622. Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 00:01:53 +0100 (MET)
  18623. From: Grzegorz Junka <ramix@student.uci.agh.edu.pl>
  18624. X-Sender: ramix@student
  18625. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  18626. Subject: Re: Zasilacze i reszta
  18627. In-Reply-To: <199803160820.JAA26563@zskl.p.lodz.pl>
  18628. Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.95.980317000044.19502L-100000@student>
  18629. MIME-Version: 1.0
  18630. Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
  18631.  
  18632. > > Czy wielka filozofia jest zrobic przelotke z zasilacza pc, aby
  18633. > >mogl zasilac A1200?
  18634. > Musisz miec wtyczke taka jak ma Amiga i - sekund piec przerobka :))
  18635. > (sprawdz tylko, aby odpowiednio polaczyc kabelki - opis byl w jednym ze
  18636. > starych Amigowcow
  18637.  
  18638. W micronicowej wiezy jest to piec bolcow przylutowanych do plutki
  18639. drukowanej. Same wtyczki sa chyba dosc trudno dostepne?
  18640.  
  18641. --
  18642. ,x80Y^"    Member of Amiga Promotion Group and fanatic AMIGA user
  18643. $0+'    Grzegorz Junka "Bastian"
  18644. 08    ramix@student.uci.agh.edu.pl    bastian@apg.plukwa.pdi.net
  18645. 0'
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  18647.  
  18648. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 17 00:25:28 1998
  18649. Received: from student.uci.agh.edu.pl (ramix@student.uci.agh.edu.pl [149.156.98.60]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA07856 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 00:16:43 +0100 (MET)
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  18652. Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 00:17:05 +0100 (MET)
  18653. From: Grzegorz Junka <ramix@student.uci.agh.edu.pl>
  18654. X-Sender: ramix@student
  18655. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  18656. Subject: Re: AmigaOS (bylo zupelnie co innego)
  18657. In-Reply-To: <yam7379.555.121736816@mail.union.org.pl>
  18658. Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.95.980317000729.19502M-100000@student>
  18659. MIME-Version: 1.0
  18660. Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-2
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  18662.  
  18663. > > wstydem ja moge sie mylic, poniewaz nie znam niestety kazdego systemu
  18664. > > operacyjnego tak dobrze jak AmigaOS) prawdopodobnie innego OS-a, ktory =
  18665. nie
  18666. > > posiadalby ochrony pamieci.
  18667. >=20
  18668. > Mylisz si=EA. MacOS jest idealnym przyk=B3adem, r=F3wnie=BF w g95 nie jes=
  18669. t to
  18670. > rozwi=B1zane tak jak powinno (i w efekcie niewiele daje - je=B6li kompute=
  18671. rowi
  18672. > przyjdzie na to ochota to i tak si=EA=A0wy=B3o=BFy). Zreszt=B1 ochrona pa=
  18673. mi=EAci
  18674. > przyda=B3aby si=EA, ale nie jest to wcale rzecz przes=B1dzaj=B1ca o jako=
  18675. =B6ci systemu,
  18676. > a jej wprowadzenie do AmigaOSu z pewno=B6ci=B1 stworzy=B3oby za sob=B1 ma=
  18677. s=EA pozornie
  18678. > nie zwi=B1zanych problem=F3w.
  18679.  
  18680. Ciekawe. A dlaczego Unix jest uwazany za najbezpieczniejszy i
  18681. najstabilniejszy system operacyjny? (pytanie retoryczne). Sproboj bez bolu
  18682. wywalic program z pamieci pod AmigaOS (wiem, ze mozna zafrezowac, ale to
  18683. po kilku operacjach powoduje braki pamieci i koniecznosc szybszego lub
  18684. pozniejszego resetu). Nie mowiac juz o mozliowsci dowolnego montowania i
  18685. odmontowywania urzadzen. A linux, jakby nie patrzec, moze chodzic
  18686. miesiacami non stop!!! I uruchomienie niepewnego programu prowadzi co
  18687. najwyzej do przerwania i zrzucenia go z pamieci na dysk (core). Na Amidze
  18688. wystarczy skompilowac program napisany troszke nie tak, i juz mamy guru i
  18689. reset. AmigaOS, owszem, ma sporo zalet, ale tak naprawde docenisz je
  18690. dopiero wtedy, gdy w AmigaOS bedzie istnialo cos takiego, jak ochrona
  18691. pamieci. To jest jedyna droga w przyszlosci. Po prostu, nie da sie
  18692. inaczej.
  18693.  
  18694. Swoja droga, glupim pomyslem jest porownywanie sie do G95. Lepiej porownaj
  18695. AmigaOS do Unixa. Bedzie to z wiekszym pozytkiem.
  18696.  
  18697. --
  18698. ,x80Y^"=09Member of Amiga Promotion Group and fanatic AMIGA user
  18699. $0+'=09Grzegorz Junka "Bastian"
  18700. 08=09ramix@student.uci.agh.edu.pl    bastian@apg.plukwa.pdi.net
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  18703.  
  18704. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 17 00:54:50 1998
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  18710. From: Miloslaw Smyk <thorgal@amiga.com.pl>
  18711. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  18712. Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 23:06:54 +0100
  18713. Message-ID: <yam7379.2718.142383976@fiber.net.pl>
  18714. In-Reply-To: <yam7376.793.139677816@fiber.net.pl>
  18715. X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview3 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
  18716. Organization: W.F.M.H.
  18717. Subject: Re: asl.library raz jeszcze
  18718. MIME-Version: 1.0
  18719. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  18720. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  18721.  
  18722. Dnia 13-Mar-98, Miloslaw Smyk rzek=B3 co nast=EApuje:
  18723.  
  18724. > ASLSM_FilterFunc, kt=F3ry odfiltrowuje wszystkie tryby mniejsze ni=BF 3=
  18725. 99x199
  18726. w
  18727. > C wyglada nastepuj=B1co:
  18728. > =
  18729.  
  18730. > --8<------------------------------------------------------------------
  18731. > =
  18732.  
  18733. > ULONG __interrupt __saveds __asm scrFilter(register __a0 struct Hook
  18734. *hook,
  18735. >                            register __a2 struct ScreenModeRequester *sm=
  18736. r,
  18737. >                            register __a1 LONG modeID)
  18738. > {
  18739. >    static struct DimensionInfo dInfo;
  18740.      ^^^^^^ to trzeba wywali=E6.
  18741.  
  18742. Mi=B3ek
  18743. -- =
  18744.  
  18745. mailto:thorgal@amiga.com.pl   |  "Man in the Moon and other weird things"=
  18746.  -
  18747. http://wfmh.org.pl/~thorgal/  |  see it at http://wfmh.org.pl/~thorgal/Mo=
  18748. on/
  18749.  
  18750. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 17 01:24:50 1998
  18751. Received: from friko2.onet.pl (root@friko2.onet.pl [194.204.191.6]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA08042 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 00:55:36 +0100 (MET)
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  18754.       id AAA13521 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 00:50:19 +0100
  18755. From: Blazej Zagozda <granacik@friko2.onet.pl>
  18756. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  18757. Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 00:49:07 GMT0
  18758. Message-ID: <yam7380.385.505836896@friko2.onet.pl>
  18759. In-Reply-To: <199803161551.QAA14997@arka.mtl.pl>
  18760. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  18761. Subject: Re: Pomysl - Tani Tower do A1200
  18762. MIME-Version: 1.0
  18763. X-ISO-CONVERTED: Yam_ISO2 1.06 (17.11.97) (c) Silver Dream !
  18764. X-YAMISO-UPDATE: ftp://wfmh.org.pl/pub/yam_iso2/
  18765. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  18766. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  18767.  
  18768. Dnia 13-Mar-98, Adam Zaparcinski napisa=B3:
  18769. >R=F3=BFne firmy oferuj=B1 nam r=F3=BFne obudowy do naszych A1200 po r=F3=
  18770. =BFnych wysokich
  18771. >cenach. Kumpel podda=B3 mi pomys=B3: Skoro niekt=F3re z tych obud=F3w to=
  18772.  zwyk=B3e
  18773. >grzybiaste midi-tower ze wstawion=B1 inn=B1 tyln=B1 =B6ciank=B1 i nak=B3=
  18774. adk=B1 na p=B3yt=EA do
  18775. >monta=BFu lyty g=B3=F3wnej to czemu nie mo=BFna kupi=E6 samych takich na=
  18776. k=B3adek i
  18777. tylnych
  18778. >=B6cianek? Tu widz=EA pole do popisu dla Amigowc=F3w. Przecie=BF zrobien=
  18779. ie takiej
  18780. >p=B3yty to tylko kwestia wywiercenia paru dziurek w blasze metalowej - k=
  18781. oszty
  18782. s=B1
  18783. >niewielkie. Kto=B6 m=F3g=B3by robi=E6 takie tylne =B6cianki (rozk=B3ad o=
  18784. twor=F3w w
  18785. obudowach
  18786. >jest chyba ten sam) i p=B3yty do monta=BFu naszej p=B3yty A1200 i sprzed=
  18787. awa=E6
  18788. >powiedzmy za 20 z=B3 za komplet. Potem tylko dokupi=E6 pecetow=B1 obudow=
  18789. =EA
  18790. midi-tower
  18791. >i zrobione. A firmy produkuj=B1ce towerki by si=EA w=B6ciek=B3y.
  18792.  
  18793. >Adam 'Sherwood' Zaparci=F1ski
  18794. >mailto: gielda@mtl.pl
  18795.  
  18796. Hej!
  18797.  
  18798. Chetnie nawiaze kontakt z osoba z Warszawy posiadajaca obudowe np. elboxu=
  18799.  w
  18800. celu zwymiarowania tych ze otworkow.... (mile widziana takze karta z zorr=
  18801. o i
  18802. cos do niej wlozone) =
  18803.  
  18804.  
  18805. Zrobienie tylnej scianki to nie problem.... =
  18806.  
  18807. A co z "miedzymordziem" do klawiatury? micronik ?!
  18808.  
  18809. O kontakt prosze na priva: granacik@friko2.onet.pl
  18810.  
  18811. Pozdrowionka
  18812. Granacik
  18813.  
  18814. ps. Oznajmiam, iz posiadam odpowiednie wyksztalcenie elektroniczne,
  18815. mechaniczne oraz swego czasu pracowalem troche w jednym z warszawskich
  18816. serwisow zajmujacym sie prawie wylacznie Amigami i sprzetem sp Commodore.=
  18817.  
  18818.  
  18819. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 17 03:54:50 1998
  18820. Received: from mail.supermedia.pl (dns1.supermedia.pl [195.116.124.17]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id DAA10022 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 03:28:26 +0100 (MET)
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  18822. From: Peter Drapich <docent@union.org.pl>
  18823. Reply-To: Peter Drapich <docent@union.org.pl>
  18824. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  18825. Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 12:54:58 +0100
  18826. Message-ID: <yam7379.2934.124160008@mail.supermedia.pl>
  18827. In-Reply-To: <yam7379.1057.2017743752@opnt.optimus.wroc.pl>
  18828. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  18829. Organization: Union Systems
  18830. Subject: Re: re[2]: mUSASHI and AmigaOS
  18831. MIME-Version: 1.0
  18832. Content-Type: text/plain
  18833.  
  18834. On 16-Mar-98, Maciej Matyka wrote:
  18835. >ghm... no moze mnie ponioslo, ale na temat zalet OSa amigi moglbym napisac
  18836. >kilkakrotnie wiecej i przytoczyc dziala wiekszego kalibru przeciw tezie
  18837. >przedstawionej przez Musashiego. Brak ochrony pamieci Amigi w jego mniemaniu
  18838. >jest choroba systemu, otco.
  18839.  
  18840. Zgadzam sie z tym, ze brak ochrony pamieci jest bardzo bolesny. Dla
  18841. uzytkownikow to nie ma wielkiego znaczenia, ale dla programisty ma. Na
  18842. amidze zrobisz jakis blad w programie, to idzie on z reguly w krzaki i 
  18843. trzeba resetowac komputer. Na klonie, nawet pod win95 (nie mowiac o nt)
  18844. jesli cos jest zleto uwali sie z reguly tylko ten program - mozna wielokrotnie
  18845. go uruchamiac, usuwac z pamieci jak padnie, poprawiac, uruchamiac itd. 
  18846. Dla kogos, kto pisze duzo kodu jest to nieocenione ulatwienie.
  18847. Ostatnio mi sie zdarza, ze pisze programy amigowe w Ansi C na visualu i
  18848. testuje, aby potem go przeniesc na amige i dorobic interfejs - Tylko prosze
  18849. mnie nie wyzywac..:)))
  18850.  
  18851. Docent
  18852. --
  18853. Electronic Technicians do it with no shorts.
  18854.  
  18855. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 17 03:54:57 1998
  18856. Received: from mail.supermedia.pl (dns1.supermedia.pl [195.116.124.17]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id DAA10016 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 03:26:15 +0100 (MET)
  18857. Received: from ppp-cst157.warszawa.tpnet.pl (ppp-cst157.warszawa.tpnet.pl [194.204.131.157]) by mail.supermedia.pl (NTMail 3.03.0014/4c.aamn) with ESMTP id oa454156 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 03:22:42 +0100
  18858. From: Peter Drapich <docent@union.org.pl>
  18859. Reply-To: docent@union.org.pl
  18860. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  18861. Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 12:11:58 +0100
  18862. Message-ID: <yam7379.2921.124160008@mail.supermedia.pl>
  18863. In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.3.95.980316235520.19502K-100000@student>
  18864. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  18865. Organization: Union Systems
  18866. Subject: Re: YAM i Miami nie =?iso-8859-1?Q?pracuj=E2?= poprawnie z moim kontem na SHACO.PL - Help Me !
  18867. MIME-Version: 1.0
  18868. Content-Type: text/plain
  18869.  
  18870. On 16-Mar-98, Grzegorz Junka wrote:
  18871.  
  18872. >Nie bedzie (byle) pecetowiec plul nam w twarz...
  18873.  
  18874. Lepiej brzmi 
  18875. "Nie bedzie kloniarz plul nam w twarz..."
  18876. I nawet do muzyki by pasowalo ...:)))
  18877.  
  18878. Docent
  18879.  
  18880. --
  18881. Creditors have much better memories than debtors.
  18882.  
  18883. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 17 03:55:04 1998
  18884. Received: from mail.supermedia.pl (dns1.supermedia.pl [195.116.124.17]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id DAA10018 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 03:26:16 +0100 (MET)
  18885. Received: from ppp-cst157.warszawa.tpnet.pl (ppp-cst157.warszawa.tpnet.pl [194.204.131.157]) by mail.supermedia.pl (NTMail 3.03.0014/4c.aamn) with ESMTP id pa454157 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 03:22:45 +0100
  18886. From: Peter Drapich <docent@union.org.pl>
  18887. Reply-To: docent@union.org.pl
  18888. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  18889. Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 12:23:00 +0100
  18890. Message-ID: <yam7379.31.124160008@mail.supermedia.pl>
  18891. In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.3.95.980317000729.19502M-100000@student>
  18892. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  18893. Organization: Union Systems
  18894. Subject: Re: AmigaOS (bylo zupelnie co innego)
  18895. MIME-Version: 1.0
  18896. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
  18897. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  18898.  
  18899. On 17-Mar-98, Grzegorz Junka wrote:
  18900. >> > wstydem ja moge sie mylic, poniewaz nie znam niestety kazdego system=
  18901. u
  18902. >> > operacyjnego tak dobrze jak AmigaOS) prawdopodobnie innego OS-a, kto=
  18903. ry
  18904. nie
  18905. >> > posiadalby ochrony pamieci.
  18906. >> Mylisz si=EA. MacOS jest idealnym przyk=B3adem, r=F3wnie=BF w g95 nie =
  18907. jest to
  18908. >> rozwi=B1zane tak jak powinno (i w efekcie niewiele daje - je=B6li komp=
  18909. uterowi
  18910. >> przyjdzie na to ochota to i tak si=EA=A0wy=B3o=BFy). Zreszt=B1 ochrona=
  18911.  pami=EAci
  18912. >> przyda=B3aby si=EA, ale nie jest to wcale rzecz przes=B1dzaj=B1ca o ja=
  18913. ko=B6ci
  18914. systemu,
  18915. >> a jej wprowadzenie do AmigaOSu z pewno=B6ci=B1 stworzy=B3oby za sob=B1=
  18916.  mas=EA
  18917. pozornie
  18918. >> nie zwi=B1zanych problem=F3w.
  18919.  
  18920. >Ciekawe. A dlaczego Unix jest uwazany za najbezpieczniejszy i
  18921. >najstabilniejszy system operacyjny? (pytanie retoryczne). Sproboj bez bo=
  18922. lu
  18923.  
  18924. Bo powstawal przez lata i wiele madrych glow meczylo sie nad takimi
  18925. problemami... :)
  18926.  
  18927. >wywalic program z pamieci pod AmigaOS (wiem, ze mozna zafrezowac, ale to=
  18928.  
  18929. >po kilku operacjach powoduje braki pamieci i koniecznosc szybszego lub
  18930. >pozniejszego resetu). Nie mowiac juz o mozliowsci dowolnego montowania i=
  18931.  
  18932. >odmontowywania urzadzen. =
  18933.  
  18934.  
  18935. ??? Assign "device" dismount - Przeciez to proste i z reguly dziala dosc
  18936. sprawnie... =
  18937.  
  18938.  
  18939. >A linux, jakby nie patrzec, moze chodzic
  18940. >miesiacami non stop!!! I uruchomienie niepewnego programu prowadzi co
  18941. >najwyzej do przerwania i zrzucenia go z pamieci na dysk (core). Na Amidz=
  18942. e
  18943.  
  18944. To dlatego, ze kazdy program unixowy po uruchomieniu ma do dyspozycji cos=
  18945.  w
  18946. rodzaju wirtualnej maszyny - uwalenie sie takiego programu uwala wirtualn=
  18947. a
  18948. maszyne a nie caly komputer. Win tez cos takiego maja np. do uruchamiania=
  18949.  
  18950. programow dosowych w oknie - kazdy taki program ma do dyspozycji wirtualn=
  18951. ego
  18952. pc z 640 KB pamieci bazowej :).
  18953. Na amidze zrobienie czegos takiego wymagaloby fundamentalnych zmian np. w=
  18954.  
  18955. metodzie komunikacji taskow, przesylania msg, alokacji pamieci itp.
  18956.  
  18957. >wystarczy skompilowac program napisany troszke nie tak, i juz mamy guru =
  18958. i
  18959. >reset. AmigaOS, owszem, ma sporo zalet, ale tak naprawde docenisz je
  18960. >dopiero wtedy, gdy w AmigaOS bedzie istnialo cos takiego, jak ochrona
  18961. >pamieci. To jest jedyna droga w przyszlosci. Po prostu, nie da sie
  18962. >inaczej.
  18963.  
  18964. Da sie, ale jest to meczace...
  18965.  
  18966. Docent
  18967.  
  18968. --
  18969. Gotta run, the cat's caught in the printer.
  18970.  
  18971. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 17 07:24:50 1998
  18972. Received: from www.kki.net.pl (www.kki.net.pl [195.116.9.70]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA10208 for <amigapl@wfmh.fiber.net.pl>; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 07:11:27 +0100 (MET)
  18973. Received: from WspSpolem (rmod11.kielce.mtl.pl [195.117.92.43])
  18974.     by www.kki.net.pl (8.8.7/8.8.7.ver6) with ESMTP id HAA22695
  18975.     for <amigapl@wfmh.man.szczecin.pl>; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 07:11:32 +0100
  18976. Message-Id: <199803170611.HAA22695@www.kki.net.pl>
  18977. From: "Marcin Soko³owski" <600user@kki.net.pl>
  18978. To: "AmigaPL-WFMH" <amigapl@wfmh.fiber.net.pl>
  18979. Subject: 8 MB CHIP do A-4000
  18980. Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 09:49:52 +0100
  18981. X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
  18982. X-Priority: 3
  18983. X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161
  18984. MIME-Version: 1.0
  18985. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2
  18986. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  18987.  
  18988. Witam ponownie !
  18989.  
  18990. Mam pytanie. Otoz w sobote stalem sie szczesliwym posiadaczem A-4000. Od =
  18991. razu wzialem sie za gruntowne przeczyszczenie jej, nie omieszkalem takze =
  18992. przyjrzec sie plycie. No i zauwazylem cos, co w ostatni Prima Aprilis =
  18993. uznalem za zarcik...
  18994. Otoz sa dwa takie jumperki - J213 (2/8 MB CHIP) oraz J214 (VBB/8M). Czy =
  18995. wiadomosc ta w polaczeniu z faktem, iz CHIP w A-4000 jest zwyklym SIMMem =
  18996. moze dac wynik posiadania w A-4000 8 MB CHIPu ?
  18997. Czy ktos probowal juz zastapic istniejace 2 MB CHIPu SIMMem 8 MB i =
  18998. przestawic w/w zworki w odpowiednie konfiguracje ?
  18999. Czy to cos w ogole moze dac, czy tez jest to tylko taka niewykorzstana =
  19000. furtka na przyszlosc zostawiona przez s.p. Commodore ?
  19001.  
  19002. O ile sie nie myle, slyszalem kiedys o A-3000T z 4 MB CHIPu...
  19003.  
  19004. Pozdrawiam !
  19005. ----------------------
  19006. Marcin "XMS" Soko=B3owski Amiga FAN ForEver
  19007. http://www.complex.com.pl/~zbylu/xms/xms001.html
  19008. 600user@kki.net.pl
  19009. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 17 07:24:57 1998
  19010. Received: from www.kki.net.pl (www.kki.net.pl [195.116.9.70]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA10209 for <amigapl@wfmh.fiber.net.pl>; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 07:11:28 +0100 (MET)
  19011. Received: from WspSpolem (rmod11.kielce.mtl.pl [195.117.92.43])
  19012.     by www.kki.net.pl (8.8.7/8.8.7.ver6) with ESMTP id HAA22662
  19013.     for <amigapl@wfmh.man.szczecin.pl>; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 07:11:13 +0100
  19014. Message-Id: <199803170611.HAA22662@www.kki.net.pl>
  19015. From: "Marcin Soko³owski" <600user@kki.net.pl>
  19016. To: "AmigaPL-WFMH" <amigapl@wfmh.fiber.net.pl>
  19017. Subject: Sprzedam MERLINa
  19018. Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 09:44:09 +0100
  19019. X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
  19020. X-Priority: 3
  19021. X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161
  19022. MIME-Version: 1.0
  19023. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2
  19024. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  19025.  
  19026. Witam !
  19027.  
  19028. Mam do sprzedania (jakby kogos interesowalo) karte grafiki MERLIN f-my =
  19029. X-Pert:
  19030. * 24 bity koloru
  19031. * max. 2048x2048
  19032. * odswiezanie 70-120 Hz
  19033. * RAM 4 MB (SIMMy) - rozszerzalna do 16 MB
  19034. * program TV-Paint 2.0
  19035. * dziala z Zorro II/III (jumper)
  19036.  
  19037. Cena 500 zl.
  19038. ----------------------
  19039. Marcin "XMS" Soko=B3owski Amiga FAN ForEver
  19040. http://www.complex.com.pl/~zbylu/xms/xms001.html
  19041. 600user@kki.net.pl
  19042. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 17 07:54:51 1998
  19043. Received: from student.uci.agh.edu.pl (ramix@student.uci.agh.edu.pl [149.156.98.60]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA10237 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 07:37:58 +0100 (MET)
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  19046. Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 07:38:19 +0100 (MET)
  19047. From: Grzegorz Junka <ramix@student.uci.agh.edu.pl>
  19048. X-Sender: ramix@student
  19049. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  19050. Subject: Re: AmigaOS (bylo zupelnie co innego)
  19051. In-Reply-To: <yam7379.31.124160008@mail.supermedia.pl>
  19052. Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.95.980317072657.13895A-100000@student>
  19053. MIME-Version: 1.0
  19054. Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
  19055.  
  19056. > >Ciekawe. A dlaczego Unix jest uwazany za najbezpieczniejszy i
  19057. > >najstabilniejszy system operacyjny? (pytanie retoryczne). Sproboj bez bolu
  19058. > 
  19059. > Bo powstawal przez lata i wiele madrych glow meczylo sie nad takimi
  19060. > problemami... :)
  19061.  
  19062. Przez jakie lata??? Owszem, od lat jest juz rozwijany, i to bardzo
  19063. dynamicznie (nie tak jak AmigaOS, ktory stanal 7 lat temu). Ale zalozenia
  19064. tego systemu powstaly juz bardzo dawno temu, i od razu zawieraly
  19065. wielodostep, wielozadaniowosc i odseparowanie jadra od programow
  19066. uzytkowych - ochrone pamieci, itd.
  19067.  
  19068. > ??? Assign "device" dismount - Przeciez to proste i z reguly dziala dosc
  19069. > sprawnie... 
  19070.  
  19071. Tyle lat mam Amige, i o tym niewiedzialem :)
  19072.  
  19073. > To dlatego, ze kazdy program unixowy po uruchomieniu ma do dyspozycji cos w
  19074. > rodzaju wirtualnej maszyny - uwalenie sie takiego programu uwala wirtualna
  19075. > maszyne a nie caly komputer. Win tez cos takiego maja np. do uruchamiania
  19076. > programow dosowych w oknie - kazdy taki program ma do dyspozycji wirtualnego
  19077. > pc z 640 KB pamieci bazowej :).
  19078. > Na amidze zrobienie czegos takiego wymagaloby fundamentalnych zmian np. w
  19079. > metodzie komunikacji taskow, przesylania msg, alokacji pamieci itp.
  19080.  
  19081. No nie, nawet Windows ma... Przeciez nie trzeba wszystkiego robic od razu.
  19082. Wystarczy zalozyc: ochrona pamieci to nasz cel w kicstarcie x.x. Na razie
  19083. robimy yyy. Popatrz, jakie fundamentalen zmiany w stosunku do 1.3 wniosl
  19084. 2.0!! I jak na poczatku wszyscy sie pluli, ze niekompatybilne, ze to
  19085. konieic Amigi, ze firmom sie nie chce robic... A z perspektywy czasu
  19086. jak bardzo trafna to byla decyzja. Ochrone pamieci i fundamentalne zmiany
  19087. w systemie mozna wprowadzic przy okazji jego tlumaczenia na PPC :)
  19088.  
  19089. --
  19090. ,x80Y^"    Member of Amiga Promotion Group and fanatic AMIGA user
  19091. $0+'    Grzegorz Junka "Bastian"
  19092. 08    ramix@student.uci.agh.edu.pl    bastian@apg.plukwa.pdi.net
  19093. 0'
  19094. 9    A1200Inf 040/40Bliz 32Mb 1.6Gb 12x 1942S CN40BC
  19095.  
  19096. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 17 09:24:55 1998
  19097. Received: from piast.pertus.com.pl (root@piast.pertus.com.pl [195.116.191.6]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA10375 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 09:02:49 +0100 (MET)
  19098. Received: from default (ppp135.legnica.tpnet.pl [195.116.255.135])
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  19100.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 09:05:44 +0100
  19101. Message-Id: <199803170805.JAA20004@piast.pertus.com.pl>
  19102. From: "Arkadiusz Winiarek" <sharky@pertus.com.pl>
  19103. To: <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  19104. Subject: PPC do A1200
  19105. Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 08:46:14 +0100
  19106. X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
  19107. X-Priority: 3
  19108. X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1157
  19109. MIME-Version: 1.0
  19110. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2
  19111. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  19112.  
  19113. Hej ludziska !!!
  19114.  
  19115. A ja mam "mi=B3=B1" wiadomo=B6=E6 dla u=BFytkownik=F3w kart z prockiem =
  19116. 060.
  19117. Po nied=B3ugich rozmowach z Marktomem dowiedzialem si=EA, =BFe z mojej =
  19118. karty (Apollo 060/50) upgrade-u do PPC nie zrobi=B1, bo ... trudno im =
  19119. b=EAdzie p=F3=BCniej sprzeda=E6 to co oddam ...
  19120.  
  19121. I co wy na to ?
  19122.  
  19123. Greetings!
  19124.  
  19125.          "Sharky" Arkadiusz Winiarek
  19126.                  Happy Amiga User!
  19127. A-1200T/2.1GB/1260/50/32MB Fast RAM
  19128.                  Jawor woj. legnickie
  19129. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 17 09:25:04 1998
  19130. Received: from server.fiber.net.pl (server.fiber.net.pl [195.117.208.101]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA10401 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 09:13:41 +0100 (MET)
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  19134.           Tue, 17 Mar 1998 09:13:28 +0100
  19135. From: Admin <owner-amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  19136. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  19137. Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 23:31:06 +0100
  19138. Message-ID: <yam7379.324.141027152@server.fiber.net.pl>
  19139. In-Reply-To: <yam7376.536.3940632@iftia6.univ.gda.pl>
  19140. X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 beta10 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
  19141. Organization: W.F.M.H.   (http://wfmh.org.pl)
  19142. Subject: Re: Do Admina
  19143. MIME-Version: 1.0
  19144. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  19145. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  19146.  
  19147. Dnia 13-Mar-98, Marcin Ostrowski napisa=B3:
  19148.  
  19149. > Mam inny pomysl - lista moderowana nie jest, ale wlasnie listy
  19150. > z *WIEKSZYMI* attachmenami moglyby byc odstawiane "na boczny
  19151. > tor" i puszczane na liste dopiero po kontroli/akceptacji admina.
  19152. > =
  19153.  
  19154. > Da sie zrobic?
  19155.  
  19156. Da si=EA zrobi=E6. Skr=F3towo: subskrybenci tej listy to raczej
  19157. rozs=B1dni ludzie i nikt tu nie posy=B3a jakiego=B6 =B6miecia za cz=EAsto=
  19158.  
  19159. i celowo (pomijaj=B1c podw=F3jnie =BF=B1dnych pomocy inteligentow z domen=
  19160. y
  19161. kt=F3r=B1 BAN ma ju=BF w swojej opiece). Og=F3lnie musimy za=B3o=BFy=E6 n=
  19162. ow=B1 wersj=EA
  19163. softu do obs=B3ugi ML, kt=F3ry ju=BF jest i czeka =BFeby si=EA nim zaj=B1=
  19164. =E6.
  19165. B=EAd=B1 wtedy filtrowane wszystkie wielgachne "prezenty", maile z "Odp:"=
  19166.  
  19167. i inne takie. Chwilowo prosi=B3bym o dwie rzeczy: p=F3ki nie ma jeszcze
  19168. zainstalowanego nowego softu, je=B6li pojawi si=EA co=B6 wi=EAkszego, PLI=
  19169. Z
  19170. nie odpisujcie na list=EA jaka krzywda wam si=EA sta=B3a. Rozumiem, =BFe =
  19171. u=BFywaj=B1c
  19172. 2400-14400 (a i 28/56K) mo=BFe co=B6 wi=EAkszego ni=BF ma=B3y mail zabole=
  19173. =E6, ale
  19174. g=B3o=B6nie =BFale nie maj=B1 sensu. Delikwenta ju=BF dawno tu w takim mo=
  19175. mencie
  19176. nie ma (i pr=EAdko si=EA nie pojawi) na li=B6cie, a w ten spos=F3b sami
  19177. zapychacie list=EA zb=EAdnymi mailami. I druga sprawa: jeszcze troch=EA
  19178. cierpliwo=B6ci. Admin okrutnie ostatnio zaj=EAty, i mimo =BFe soft jest t=
  19179. o czasu
  19180. jakby mnie, ale mimo wiatru w oczy postara si=EA wykroi=E6 chwilk=EA i po=
  19181. prawi=E6
  19182. co nieco dla dobra og=F3=B3u.
  19183.  
  19184. Je=B6li chodzi o ataczmenty i inne klimaty: =BFadnych binari=F3w, d=BCwi=EA=
  19185. k=F3w,
  19186. czcionek itp. =AFadnych "sorry, =BFe na list=EA ale...". KICK i BAN murow=
  19187. any!
  19188. Obiecuj=EA! =AFadnych "cze=B6=E6, jestem nowy i to m=F3j pierwszy mail. T=
  19189. o tyle"
  19190. (prosz=EA, poinformujcie znajomych nowicjuszy). No i p=F3ki _*naprawd=EA*=
  19191. _ nie
  19192. jest to koniecznie, darujcie "wyje=BFdzam do babci/cioci/w=F3jka/na sanki=
  19193. ,
  19194. i nie b=EAd=EA czyta=B3 listy przez xxxx...". Darujcie r=F3wnie=BF "Ju=BF=
  19195.  wr=F3cilem".
  19196.  
  19197. Powy=BFsze nie ograniczaj=B1 niczyjej swobody wypowiedzi, za to na pewno
  19198. ograniczaj=B1 liczb=EA maili na li=B6cie. I pami=EAtajcie o pkt. 7 regula=
  19199. minu.
  19200.  
  19201. Hej,
  19202. -- =
  19203.  
  19204.  Admin                           mailto:owner-amigapl@amiga.com.pl
  19205.  
  19206.  
  19207.  
  19208. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 17 10:24:55 1998
  19209. Received: from imagent.inet.com.pl (imagent.inet.com.pl [195.116.59.5]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA10563 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 10:22:12 +0100 (MET)
  19210. Received: from box43.gnet.pl ([194.204.141.227]) by imagent.inet.com.pl
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  19212.           for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 10:24:47 +0100
  19213. From: Piotr Czerniawski <piotrcz@box43.gnet.pl>
  19214. To: AmigaPL <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  19215. Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 10:22:28 +0100
  19216. Message-ID: <yam7380.1449.2016626392@inet.com.pl>
  19217. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  19218. Subject: Burst
  19219. MIME-Version: 1.0
  19220. X-ISO-CONVERTED: Yam_ISO2 1.06 (17.11.97) (c) Silver Dream !
  19221. X-YAMISO-UPDATE: ftp://wfmh.org.pl/pub/yam_iso2/
  19222. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  19223. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  19224.  
  19225. Witam
  19226.  
  19227. Co to jest ten "tryb burst" i co daje jego w=B3=B1czenie ?
  19228.  
  19229. Pozdrawiam, Piotrek.
  19230.  
  19231. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 17 10:25:04 1998
  19232. Received: from gryzmak.lodz.pdi.net (gryzmak.lodz.pdi.net [195.116.162.1]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA10530 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 10:05:52 +0100 (MET)
  19233. Received: (from arturp@localhost)
  19234.     by gryzmak.lodz.pdi.net (8.8.7/2.1.1/L) id KAA14347;
  19235.     Tue, 17 Mar 1998 10:03:51 +0100
  19236. Message-ID: <19980317100350.38031@plukwa.pdi.net>
  19237. Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 10:03:50 +0100
  19238. From: Artur Pietruk <arturp@plukwa.pdi.net>
  19239. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  19240. Subject: Re: 8 MB CHIP do A-4000
  19241. References: <199803170611.HAA22695@www.kki.net.pl>
  19242. Mime-Version: 1.0
  19243. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
  19244. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
  19245. X-Mailer: Mutt 0.83
  19246. In-Reply-To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=3C199803170611=2EHAA22695=40www=2Ekki=2Enet=2Epl=3E=3B_f?=
  19247.  =?iso-8859-1?Q?rom_Marcin_Soko=B3owski_on_Mon=2C_Mar_16=2C_1998_at_09=3A?=
  19248.  =?iso-8859-1?Q?49=3A52AM_+0100?=
  19249.  
  19250. On Mon, Mar 16, 1998 at 09:49:52AM +0100, Marcin Soko³owski wrote:
  19251. > Witam ponownie !
  19252. > 
  19253. > Mam pytanie. Otoz w sobote stalem sie szczesliwym posiadaczem A-4000.
  19254.  
  19255.     gratulacje!
  19256.  
  19257. > Od razu wzialem sie za gruntowne przeczyszczenie jej, nie omieszkalem
  19258. takze przyjrzec sie plycie. No i zauwazylem cos, co w ostatni Prima Aprilis uznalem za zarcik...
  19259. > Otoz sa dwa takie jumperki - J213 (2/8 MB CHIP) oraz J214 (VBB/8M). Czy wiadomosc ta w polaczeniu z faktem, iz CHIP w A-4000 jest zwyklym SIMMem moze dac wynik posiadania w A-4000 8 MB CHIPu ?
  19260.  
  19261.     Nie - 8Mb mialy obslugiwac nieistniejace praktycznie uklady AAA.
  19262.  
  19263. > Czy ktos probowal juz zastapic istniejace 2 MB CHIPu SIMMem 8 MB i przestawic w/w zworki w odpowiednie konfiguracje ?
  19264. > Czy to cos w ogole moze dac, czy tez jest to tylko taka niewykorzstana furtka na przyszlosc zostawiona przez s.p. Commodore ?
  19265.  
  19266.     Nie powinno to nic dac, to furtka na przyszlosc.
  19267.  
  19268. > O ile sie nie myle, slyszalem kiedys o A-3000T z 4 MB CHIPu...
  19269.  
  19270.     chyba nie... :-)
  19271.  
  19272.     Ps. mozesz ucinac linie w okolicach 80 kolumny? Ulatwi to
  19273. cytowanie :-)
  19274.  
  19275. -- 
  19276. -------------------------------------------------------------------
  19277. - Who  : Artur Pietruk - WebMaster @ PDi - www.pdi.net -      /// -
  19278. - Email: arturp@pdi.net IRC: APair TEL: +48 44 7140906 -     ///  -
  19279. - Snail: ul.11 listopada 33a/19 97-140 Koluszki POLAND - \\\///   -
  19280. - Using: AMIGA 4000/40 CV64-3D, A1240T                 -  \\//    -
  19281.  
  19282.         PGP public key - finger arturp@gryzmak.lodz.pdi.net
  19283.                 "My webpage exist - I've seen it!"
  19284. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 17 10:54:51 1998
  19285. Received: from gryzmak.lodz.pdi.net (gryzmak.lodz.pdi.net [195.116.162.1]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA10608 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 10:30:46 +0100 (MET)
  19286. Received: (from arturp@localhost)
  19287.     by gryzmak.lodz.pdi.net (8.8.7/2.1.1/L) id KAA16071;
  19288.     Tue, 17 Mar 1998 10:28:43 +0100
  19289. Message-ID: <19980317102843.31872@plukwa.pdi.net>
  19290. Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 10:28:43 +0100
  19291. From: Artur Pietruk <arturp@plukwa.pdi.net>
  19292. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  19293. Subject: Re: Re[2]: PPC do A1200
  19294. References: <19980316115659.02848@plukwa.pdi.net> <1504.379T2995T12213891@silesia.top.pl>
  19295. Mime-Version: 1.0
  19296. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
  19297. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
  19298. X-Mailer: Mutt 0.83
  19299. In-Reply-To: <1504.379T2995T12213891@silesia.top.pl>; from Grzegorz Juraszek on Mon, Mar 16, 1998 at 08:21:59PM +0100
  19300.  
  19301. On Mon, Mar 16, 1998 at 08:21:59PM +0100, Grzegorz Juraszek wrote:
  19302. > >                "My webpage exist - I've seen it!"
  19303. > 
  19304. > Wiem, ¿e to zboczenie zawodowe, ale powinno byæ 'exists'. Jeszcze raz
  19305. > przepraszam :)
  19306.  
  19307.     spoko - niezbyt czesto zagladam do wlsnej sygnaturki :-), dzieki
  19308.  
  19309. -- 
  19310. -------------------------------------------------------------------
  19311. - Who  : Artur Pietruk - WebMaster @ PDi - www.pdi.net -      /// -
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  19313. - Snail: ul.11 listopada 33a/19 97-140 Koluszki POLAND - \\\///   -
  19314. - Using: AMIGA 4000/40 CV64-3D, A1240T                 -  \\//    -
  19315.  
  19316.         PGP public key - finger arturp@gryzmak.lodz.pdi.net
  19317.                 "My webpage exists - I've seen it!"
  19318. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 17 11:24:51 1998
  19319. Received: from mx1.polbox.com (mx1.polbox.com [195.116.5.16]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA10722 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 11:23:11 +0100 (MET)
  19320. Received: from sweet.tnet.pl (juha@sweet.tnet.pl [195.116.45.4])
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  19322.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 11:26:18 +0100
  19323. Message-ID: <350E4FF2.5047@polbox.com>
  19324. Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 11:26:58 +0100
  19325. From: Juha <juha@polbox.com>
  19326. Reply-To: juha@polbox.com
  19327. Organization: AmigaTeam
  19328. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I)
  19329. MIME-Version: 1.0
  19330. To: amigapl@amiga.com.pl
  19331. Subject: Ochrona pamieci i Amiga
  19332. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
  19333. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
  19334.  
  19335. Ostatnio bardzo czesto slysze na liscie ze wszyscy narzekaja na brak
  19336. ochrony pamieci w Amidze. Moze to jest i wada ale juz nieedlugio bedzie
  19337. naprawiona. Wystarczy zajrzec na strone schatztruche (niewiem czy dobrze
  19338. napisalem sorry) zeby sie przekonac, ze juz w maju bedzie program Amiga
  19339. Bodyguard ktory ten blad zniweluje.
  19340.  
  19341. Amiga Bodygurad = Ochrona pamieci dla AmigaOS
  19342. -- 
  19343.            ____
  19344.    +------/ / /-------------------------------+------------------------+
  19345.    |  _ _/ / /      Marek Pialucha "Juha"     | Member of "Amiga Team" |
  19346.    |-\ \ \/ /---------------------------------+------------------------|
  19347.    |  \_\_\/   A1200/030/50 Mhz, 20MB, 1.6 GB |    juha@polbox.com     |
  19348.    +------------------------------------------+------------------------+
  19349.  
  19350. ----- [ REKLAMA / ADVERTISEMENT ] ------------------------
  19351.  
  19352. Zostan Autoryzowanym Partnerem Polbox On-Line Service!
  19353. Szczegoly:  http://www.polbox.pl/98partner.html
  19354.  
  19355. ----------------------------------------------------------
  19356.  
  19357. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 17 12:54:51 1998
  19358. Received: from piast.pertus.com.pl (root@piast.pertus.com.pl [195.116.191.6]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA10848 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 12:31:15 +0100 (MET)
  19359. Received: from default (ppp158.legnica.tpnet.pl [195.116.255.158])
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  19361.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 12:34:09 +0100
  19362. Message-Id: <199803171134.MAA21180@piast.pertus.com.pl>
  19363. From: "Arkadiusz Winiarek" <sharky@pertus.com.pl>
  19364. To: <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  19365. Subject: Lista
  19366. Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 12:32:25 +0100
  19367. X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
  19368. X-Priority: 3
  19369. X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1157
  19370. MIME-Version: 1.0
  19371. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2
  19372. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  19373.  
  19374. Hej!
  19375.  
  19376. Interesuje mnie, czy istnieje jaka=B6 lista polskich u=BFytkownik=F3w =
  19377. Macintosha, dzia=B3aj=B1ca jak lista na amigapl@amiga.com.pl w ojczystym =
  19378. j=EAzyku?
  19379. Je=B6li kto=B6 co=B6 wie, to prosz=EA o odpowied=BC.=20
  19380.  
  19381. Greetings!
  19382.  
  19383.          "Sharky" Arkadiusz Winiarek
  19384.                  Happy Amiga User!
  19385. A-1200T/2.1GB/1260/50/32MB Fast RAM
  19386.                  Jawor woj. legnickie
  19387. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 17 13:24:51 1998
  19388. Received: from www.kki.net.pl (www.kki.net.pl [195.116.9.70]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA11017 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 13:13:15 +0100 (MET)
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  19391.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 13:13:19 +0100
  19392. Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 13:13:19 +0100
  19393. Message-Id: <199803171213.NAA12403@www.kki.net.pl>
  19394. X-Sender: kaczus@kki.net.pl
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  19398. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  19399. From: Tomasz Kaczanowski <kaczus@kki.net.pl>
  19400. Subject: Re: re[2]: mUSASHI and AmigaOS
  19401.  
  19402. At 12:54 98-03-16 +0100, you wrote:
  19403. >On 16-Mar-98, Maciej Matyka wrote:
  19404. >>ghm... no moze mnie ponioslo, ale na temat zalet OSa amigi moglbym napisac
  19405. >>kilkakrotnie wiecej i przytoczyc dziala wiekszego kalibru przeciw tezie
  19406. >>przedstawionej przez Musashiego. Brak ochrony pamieci Amigi w jego mniemaniu
  19407. >>jest choroba systemu, otco.
  19408. >
  19409. >Zgadzam sie z tym, ze brak ochrony pamieci jest bardzo bolesny. Dla
  19410. >uzytkownikow to nie ma wielkiego znaczenia, ale dla programisty ma. Na
  19411. >amidze zrobisz jakis blad w programie, to idzie on z reguly w krzaki i 
  19412. >trzeba resetowac komputer. Na klonie, nawet pod win95 (nie mowiac o nt)
  19413. >jesli cos jest zleto uwali sie z reguly tylko ten program - mozna wielokrotnie
  19414. >go uruchamiac, usuwac z pamieci jak padnie, poprawiac, uruchamiac itd. 
  19415.  
  19416. Jak chcesz napisze ci prosty program, z malym bledem, (w ansiC) na amidze
  19417. spowoduje on jedynie reset, pod dosem bedzie reset, a pod Windowsem95
  19418. (przynajmniej u qmpla) spowodowal on zwis calego systemu, a po resecie
  19419. (dzialal tylko ten z obudowy...) reinstalacja windowsow mu zostala, a jesli
  19420. chodzi
  19421. o wisuala, to jest na strasznie ograniczony, ma identyczne ograniczenia jak
  19422. Turbo Pascal (nie wiem, czym sie tak niektorzy podniecaja), ze o jego 
  19423. wisualnosci nie wspomne ...
  19424.  
  19425.  
  19426. Kaczus of BlaBla
  19427.  
  19428. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 17 13:24:59 1998
  19429. Received: from www.kki.net.pl (www.kki.net.pl [195.116.9.70]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA11007 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 13:05:50 +0100 (MET)
  19430. Received: from pc10.wpk.p.lodz.pl (pc10.wpk.p.lodz.pl [193.59.57.140])
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  19432.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 13:06:00 +0100
  19433. Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 13:06:00 +0100
  19434. Message-Id: <199803171206.NAA10840@www.kki.net.pl>
  19435. X-Sender: kaczus@kki.net.pl
  19436. X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2
  19437. Mime-Version: 1.0
  19438. Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
  19439. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  19440. From: Tomasz Kaczanowski <kaczus@kki.net.pl>
  19441. Subject: Re: AmigaOS (bylo zupelnie co innego)
  19442.  
  19443. At 00:17 98-03-17 +0100, you wrote:
  19444. >Ciekawe. A dlaczego Unix jest uwazany za najbezpieczniejszy i
  19445. >najstabilniejszy system operacyjny?
  19446.  
  19447. Jenoczesnie najwolniejszy (windowsy pomijam, bo to nie system)
  19448.  
  19449. >wywalic program z pamieci pod AmigaOS (wiem, ze mozna zafrezowac, ale to
  19450. >po kilku operacjach powoduje braki pamieci i koniecznosc szybszego lub
  19451. >pozniejszego resetu).
  19452.  
  19453. Wina defragmentacji pamieci 
  19454. > Nie mowiac juz o mozliowsci dowolnego montowania i
  19455. >odmontowywania urzadzen.
  19456.  
  19457. ? - nie mozesz zamontowac jakiegos urzadzenia- moze pod MS-Dosem pracujesz,
  19458. a nie pod AmigaOS ??
  19459.  
  19460. >A linux, jakby nie patrzec, moze chodzic
  19461. >miesiacami non stop!!! I uruchomienie niepewnego programu prowadzi co
  19462. >najwyzej do przerwania i zrzucenia go z pamieci na dysk (core).
  19463.  
  19464. Unix z allozenia ma buforowanie pamieci na dysku - zreszta do wszystkich
  19465. urzadzen (rowniez do pamieci) odwolujesz sie jak do pliku ...
  19466.  
  19467. > Na Amidze
  19468. >wystarczy skompilowac program napisany troszke nie tak, i juz mamy guru i
  19469. >reset.
  19470.  
  19471. Coz, jak jest cos nie tak ...
  19472.  
  19473. > AmigaOS, owszem, ma sporo zalet, ale tak naprawde docenisz je
  19474. >dopiero wtedy, gdy w AmigaOS bedzie istnialo cos takiego, jak ochrona
  19475. >pamieci. To jest jedyna droga w przyszlosci. Po prostu, nie da sie
  19476. >inaczej.
  19477.  
  19478. Ochrona pamieci tak naprawde potrzebna jest w systemach wielodostepnych,
  19479. dzieki temu, ze jej nie ma majac system z poczatku lat 90 mozesz go
  19480. spatchowac tak aby dzialal jak przystalo na koniec lat 90-tych... Ochrona
  19481. pamieci,
  19482. tak, ale opcjonalnie - duzo bardziej przydalby sie driver defragmentujacy pamiec
  19483.  
  19484. Kaczus of BlaBla
  19485.  
  19486. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 17 13:54:55 1998
  19487. Received: from www.kki.net.pl (www.kki.net.pl [195.116.9.70]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA11054 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 13:33:54 +0100 (MET)
  19488. Received: from kki.net.pl (ppp@ppp213.gorzow.tpnet.pl [195.116.254.213])
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  19490.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 13:33:54 +0100
  19491. From: Artur Karpunin <woody8@kki.net.pl>
  19492. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  19493. Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 07:50:03 +0500
  19494. Message-ID: <yam7380.191.479736@kki.net.pl>
  19495. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  19496. Subject: Problemy z firmami.
  19497. MIME-Version: 1.0
  19498. Content-Type: text/plain
  19499.  
  19500. Witam serdecznie !
  19501.  
  19502. Czy ktos mial problemy z towarem 
  19503. zakupionym w Elboxie .Chodzi mi o to
  19504. czy jest sposob na odzyzkanie gotowki.
  19505. Moja karta byla dwukrotnie w serwisie.
  19506. W tej chwili jest juz drugi miesiac
  19507. przetrzymywana w tymze serwisie.Maja
  19508. mi ja wymienic ale nie maja nowych kart
  19509. bo czekaja na dostawe , a mnie trafia szlag. 
  19510. Zakupilem ja w czerwcu 1997 z czego byla u mnie
  19511. moze z dwa miesiace.
  19512. Co tydzie dzwonie do goscia i
  19513. co tydzien slysze to samo : " Na pewno
  19514. dojda w tym tygodniu mamy potwierdzona
  19515. dostawe ". 
  19516. Czy nie ma na nich sily ?!!!.
  19517.  
  19518. -- 
  19519. Z powazaniem Artur Karpunin <woody8@kki.net.pl>
  19520.  
  19521.  
  19522. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 17 14:24:51 1998
  19523. Received: from info.cyf-kr.edu.pl (info.cyf-kr.edu.pl [149.156.4.11]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA11192 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 13:57:37 +0100 (MET)
  19524. Received: from kinga.cyf-kr.edu.pl (0@kinga.cyf-kr.edu.pl [149.156.2.32])
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  19526.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 13:56:39 +0100 (MET)
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  19529.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 13:56:36 +0100 (MET)
  19530. Message-Id: <199803171256.NAA08516@kinga.cyf-kr.edu.pl>
  19531. From: "Wojtek Jaworski" <mxjawors@cyf-kr.edu.pl>
  19532. To: "AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi" <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  19533. Subject: Odp: Pomysl - Tani Tower do A1200
  19534. Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 13:55:57 +0100
  19535. MIME-Version: 1.0
  19536. Content-Type: text/plain;
  19537.     charset="iso-8859-2"
  19538. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  19539. X-Priority: 3
  19540. X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
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  19543.  
  19544. =20
  19545.  
  19546. -----Oryginalna wiadomo=B6=E6-----
  19547. Od: Adam Zaparcinski <gielda@mtl.pl>
  19548. Do: amigapl@amiga.com.pl <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  19549. Data: 16 marca 1998 18:06
  19550. Temat: Pomysl - Tani Tower do A1200
  19551.  
  19552.  
  19553.  
  19554. Tak z bieda to koszt takiej obudowy TowerPC dla amigi =3D cenie obudowy =
  19555. + koszt przedluzek do gniazd amigowych czyli jakies 10 zl.(nie liczac =
  19556. oczywiscie interfejsu klawiatury i samej klawiatury).  Przy odrobinie =
  19557. wprawy z wiertarka i lutownica kazdy moze sobie zrobic to sam. Plyte =
  19558. przykrecic tulejkami dystansowymi do scianki bocznej popodlaczac =
  19559. przedluzki na sledziach i towerka gotowa. Kwestie zasilania mozna =
  19560. rozwiazac na dwa sposoby. Jeden brutalny - uciac kabel z zasilacza =
  19561. oryginalnego z amigi, podlutowac kable do zasilacza PC i gotowe. Wada: =
  19562. wystajacy z tylu obudowy kabel zasilajacy. Drugi: podlutowac =
  19563. bezposrednio kabel zasilacza 200W do gniazda A1200 (najbezpiecznej w =
  19564. miejsce po wylutowanym gniezdzie w Amidze). Jest jeszcze trzeci, =
  19565. elegancki sposob: kupic przelotke od Elboxa.
  19566. I co najwazniejsze, wcale w ten sposob nie ograniczamy potem stosowania =
  19567. kart ZORRO :)  (oczywiscie znowu po malych przerobkach.
  19568. Pozdrawiam=20
  19569. Wojtek
  19570. ------------------------------
  19571. mailto: mxjawors@cyfronet.krakow.pl
  19572.  
  19573. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 17 15:24:51 1998
  19574. Received: from zeus.polsl.gliwice.pl (ololo@zeus.polsl.gliwice.pl [157.158.1.3]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA11363 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 15:02:18 +0100 (MET)
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  19576. Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 15:01:23 +0100 (MET)
  19577. From: Aleksander Salwa <ololo@zeus.polsl.gliwice.pl>
  19578. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  19579. Subject: Re: re[2]: MUSASHI and AmigaOS
  19580. In-Reply-To: <199803171213.NAA12403@www.kki.net.pl>
  19581. Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.95.980317145837.15353B-100000@zeus.polsl.gliwice.pl>
  19582. MIME-Version: 1.0
  19583. Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
  19584.  
  19585.  
  19586. > Jak chcesz napisze ci prosty program, z malym bledem, (w ansiC) na amidze
  19587. > spowoduje on jedynie reset, pod dosem bedzie reset, a pod Windowsem95
  19588. > (przynajmniej u qmpla) spowodowal on zwis calego systemu, a po resecie
  19589. > (dzialal tylko ten z obudowy...) reinstalacja windowsow mu zostala, a jesli
  19590. > chodzi
  19591.  
  19592.     Bardzo prosze o listing, oczywiscie
  19593. w celach edukacyjnych ;)
  19594.  
  19595. __________________________________________________________________________
  19596. Aleksander Salwa ----------------------------- ololo@zeus.polsl.gliwice.pl
  19597.  
  19598.  
  19599. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 17 15:24:59 1998
  19600. Received: from www.kki.net.pl (www.kki.net.pl [195.116.9.70]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA11376 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 15:08:30 +0100 (MET)
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  19603.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 15:08:32 +0100
  19604. From: Lolo <lolorad@free.polbox.pl>
  19605. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  19606. Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 14:36:53 +0100
  19607. Message-ID: <yam7380.2696.2020787520@kki.net.pl>
  19608. X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
  19609. Subject: MIDI
  19610. MIME-Version: 1.0
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  19613.  
  19614. Hello,
  19615.  
  19616. Mam pytanie, jak tanim kosztem slucha=E6 utworow midi w dobrej jako=B6ci.=
  19617.  
  19618. Zaznaczam =BFe karta za 10 milionow + tower i sloty zorro odpada.
  19619. Chodzi mi o cos *zdecydowanie ta=F1szego.*
  19620.  
  19621. -- =
  19622.  
  19623.                                    Radoslaw Flis - Lolo
  19624.                                   lolorad@friko.onet.pl
  19625.                                  lolorad@free.polbox.pl
  19626.                            A1200/030/FPU/50MHz/8Fast/2.1+0.5GB HD/CD
  19627.                                 MultisyncColor/Sportster28k8
  19628.  
  19629. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 17 15:25:05 1998
  19630. Received: from zeus.polsl.gliwice.pl (ololo@zeus.polsl.gliwice.pl [157.158.1.3]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA11370 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 15:06:41 +0100 (MET)
  19631. Received: from localhost (ololo@localhost) by zeus.polsl.gliwice.pl with SMTP (8.8.6/8.7.3) id PAA27023 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 15:05:49 +0100 (MET)
  19632. Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 15:05:48 +0100 (MET)
  19633. From: Aleksander Salwa <ololo@zeus.polsl.gliwice.pl>
  19634. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  19635. Subject: Re: Sprzedam MERLINa
  19636. In-Reply-To: <199803170611.HAA22662@www.kki.net.pl>
  19637. Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.95.980317150205.15353C-100000@zeus.polsl.gliwice.pl>
  19638. MIME-Version: 1.0
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  19641.  
  19642.  
  19643. On Mon, 16 Mar 1998, Marcin Soko=B3owski wrote:
  19644.  
  19645. > Mam do sprzedania (jakby kogos interesowalo) karte grafiki MERLIN f-my X-=
  19646. Pert:
  19647. > * 24 bity koloru
  19648. > * max. 2048x2048
  19649. > * odswiezanie 70-120 Hz
  19650. > * RAM 4 MB (SIMMy) - rozszerzalna do 16 MB
  19651. > * program TV-Paint 2.0
  19652. > * dziala z Zorro II/III (jumper)
  19653. >=20
  19654. > Cena 500 zl.
  19655. > ----------------------
  19656.  
  19657. =09A jest to cos supportowane przez CGX albo Picasso ?
  19658. =09I dlaczego sie tego pozbywasz - parametry podejrzanie dobre.
  19659.  
  19660. __________________________________________________________________________
  19661. Aleksander Salwa ----------------------------- ololo@zeus.polsl.gliwice.pl
  19662.  
  19663.  
  19664. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 17 15:25:12 1998
  19665. Received: from box43.gnet.pl (box43.gnet.pl [195.117.182.3]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA11341 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 14:57:02 +0100 (MET)
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  19668.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 14:56:09 +0100 (CET)
  19669. Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 14:56:09 +0100 (CET)
  19670. Message-Id: <l03110705b1343e0132a6@[194.204.139.71]>
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  19673. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  19674. From: Marek Telecki <telly@box43.gnet.pl>
  19675. Subject: Savage & AVId
  19676.  
  19677. Witam!
  19678.  
  19679.     Oto aktualna lista osob zainteresowanych rejestracja Savage'a i AVId'a:
  19680.  
  19681. 1. Andrzej Gorny <agorny@dns.herbial.pl>             Savage, AVId
  19682. 2. Robert Witkowicz <abrasax@student.uci.agh.edu.pl> Savage, AVId
  19683. 3. Norbert Pietraszek <jigit2@friko2.onet.pl>        AVId
  19684. 4. At0m <at0m@friko.onet.pl>                         AVId
  19685. 5. Adam Mateja <matejaa@gss.abis.lodz.pl>            AVId
  19686. 6. Mariusz Porebski <bestia@ds14.agh.edu.pl>         Savage, AVId
  19687. 7. Szymon Matuszewski                                AVId
  19688. 8. Ariusz Nowak <ariusz@tk.net.pl>                   Savage, AVId
  19689. 9. Krzysztof.Jancewicz@bialystok.computerplus.com.pl Savage, AVId
  19690. 10. Grzegorz Malczewski <grzegmc@lg.onet.pl>         Savage, AVId
  19691. 11. oraz ja Marek Telecki                            Savage, AVId
  19692.  
  19693. Niestety do tej pory tylko osoby z pozycji  1, 7, i 11 dokonaly wplaty... :-(
  19694.  
  19695.     Prosze wszystkich o dopelnienie wszelkich formalnosci, a
  19696. przyspieszy to i usprawni procedure rejestracji.
  19697.  
  19698. Moj adres:    Marek Telecki
  19699.               Gdanska 226/6
  19700.               85-674 Bydgoszcz
  19701.               tel. 052 372-13-16 (po 18-ej)
  19702.  
  19703.     To na razie tyle, czekam na kolejne zgloszenia i pozdrawiam
  19704. wszystkich:)
  19705. Nara
  19706.  
  19707. PS. SAURON Again! Moje listy do Ciebie nie dochadza na zaden adres, what's up?
  19708.  
  19709.  Marek Telecki / FST / S.O.S. Team *AMIGA*
  19710.    A1240T@40/34MB/CV3D/Z2/M1438/3GB/CD8x
  19711. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
  19712.    mailto: telly@box43.gnet.pl
  19713.            sos@vena.telbank.pl
  19714.  
  19715.  
  19716.  
  19717. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  19718.    Dostep do internetu 56 Kbps Flex / 64 Kbps ISDN http://www.getin.pl
  19719.        Darmowe konta pocztowe w sieci GETIN. http://box43.gnet.pl
  19720.            GETIN Internet Service Provider http://www.gnet.pl
  19721. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  19722.  
  19723.  
  19724. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 17 15:54:51 1998
  19725. Received: from wfmh.org.pl (piter@pppa166.szczecin.tpnet.pl [194.204.141.166]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA11464 for <AmigaPL@wfmh.fiber.net.pl>; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 15:52:12 +0100 (MET)
  19726. From: Piotr Legiecki <piotrlg@wfmh.org.pl>
  19727. To: AmigaPL@wfmh.fiber.net.pl
  19728. Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 15:50:30 +0100
  19729. Message-ID: <yam7380.1538.506764440@wfmh.org.pl>
  19730. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  19731. Subject: kabel scsii
  19732. MIME-Version: 1.0
  19733. Content-Type: text/plain
  19734.  
  19735. Czesc
  19736. Oto i kabelkowy problem. Nie moge nigdzie dostac kabla SCSII do podlaczenia
  19737. CD-romu z kontrolerem scsii od blizzarda III. To jest kabel z jednej strony
  19738. 25 pinow, z drugiej 50 (od cd-romu). Zrobil bym sam, ale jak przejsc z 50
  19739. pinow na 25? Widzial kto kiedy taki kabel? A moze ma na zbyciu?
  19740.  
  19741. Czesc
  19742. -- 
  19743.  
  19744.                   --                                      --
  19745.                     ----------- Piotr Legiecki -----------
  19746.                   --          piotrlg@wfmh.org.pl         --
  19747.  
  19748. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 17 16:24:55 1998
  19749. Received: from tempus.ii.uni.wroc.pl (aln@tempus.ii.uni.wroc.pl [156.17.4.97]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA11504 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 16:10:08 +0100 (MET)
  19750. Received: (from aln@localhost)
  19751.     by tempus.ii.uni.wroc.pl (8.8.8/8.8.5) id QAA01792;
  19752.     Tue, 17 Mar 1998 16:09:09 +0100 (MET)
  19753. Message-ID: <19980317160908.21461@ii.uni.wroc.pl>
  19754. Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 16:09:08 +0100
  19755. From: Marcin Wrzeszcz <aln@ii.uni.wroc.pl>
  19756. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  19757. Subject: Re: AmigaOS (bylo zupelnie co innego)
  19758. References: <199803171206.NAA10840@www.kki.net.pl>
  19759. Mime-Version: 1.0
  19760. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
  19761. X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89
  19762. In-Reply-To: <199803171206.NAA10840@www.kki.net.pl>; from Tomasz Kaczanowski on Tue, Mar 17, 1998 at 01:06:00PM +0100
  19763.  
  19764. Dnia Tue, Mar 17, 1998 at 01:06:00PM +0100, Tomasz Kaczanowski napisal(a):
  19765. > At 00:17 98-03-17 +0100, you wrote:
  19766. [maly ciach]
  19767.  
  19768. > >wywalic program z pamieci pod AmigaOS (wiem, ze mozna zafrezowac, ale to
  19769. > >po kilku operacjach powoduje braki pamieci i koniecznosc szybszego lub
  19770. > >pozniejszego resetu).
  19771. >
  19772. > Wina defragmentacji pamieci 
  19773.  
  19774. Chyba nie wiesz co to jest task zamrozony. Takie zadanie "wisi" w pamieci
  19775. i sie nie wykonuje... Nie wiem jak Ty, ale ja nie widze prostej mozliwosci
  19776. zwolnienia jego zasobow bez porzadnego kodu obslugi pamieci (jakby ja chronic
  19777. to ten kod napisaloby sie "mimochodem"). 
  19778.  
  19779. > > Nie mowiac juz o mozliowsci dowolnego montowania i
  19780. > >odmontowywania urzadzen.
  19781. > 
  19782. > ? - nie mozesz zamontowac jakiegos urzadzenia- moze pod MS-Dosem pracujesz,
  19783. > a nie pod AmigaOS ??
  19784.  
  19785. Montowanie - OK, czasami sa problemy z odmontowywaniem (vide RAD).
  19786. (tzn. ja rozumiem, ze jest specjalny program do RAD'u, ale to nie powinno
  19787. tak byc)
  19788.  
  19789. > >A linux, jakby nie patrzec, moze chodzic
  19790. > >miesiacami non stop!!! I uruchomienie niepewnego programu prowadzi co
  19791. > >najwyzej do przerwania i zrzucenia go z pamieci na dysk (core).
  19792. > 
  19793. > Unix z allozenia ma buforowanie pamieci na dysku - zreszta do wszystkich
  19794. > urzadzen (rowniez do pamieci) odwolujesz sie jak do pliku ...
  19795.  
  19796. Ciekawe... Owszem, do pamieci moznaby sie odwolywac za pomoca plikow,
  19797. ale sam pomysl, zeby odwolac sie do pliku potrzebne sa odwolania do
  19798. pamieci, czyli do pliku, czyli do pamieci.... i tak w kolko (oczywiscie
  19799. jesli nie byloby dostepu bezposredniego do pamieci).
  19800.  
  19801. > > Na Amidze
  19802. > >wystarczy skompilowac program napisany troszke nie tak, i juz mamy guru i
  19803. > >reset.
  19804. > 
  19805. > Coz, jak jest cos nie tak ...
  19806.  
  19807. A zawsze piszesz cos "tak"? Nie zdaza Ci sie robic bledow?
  19808.  
  19809. > > AmigaOS, owszem, ma sporo zalet, ale tak naprawde docenisz je
  19810. > >dopiero wtedy, gdy w AmigaOS bedzie istnialo cos takiego, jak ochrona
  19811. > >pamieci. To jest jedyna droga w przyszlosci. Po prostu, nie da sie
  19812. > >inaczej.
  19813. > 
  19814. > Ochrona pamieci tak naprawde potrzebna jest w systemach wielodostepnych,
  19815.  
  19816. W sumie racja...
  19817.  
  19818. > dzieki temu, ze jej nie ma majac system z poczatku lat 90 mozesz go
  19819. > spatchowac tak aby dzialal jak przystalo na koniec lat 90-tych...
  19820.  
  19821. Hmm... a takiego np. FreeBSD da sie spatchowac, a ma ochronke pamieci...
  19822.  
  19823. > Ochrona pamieci,
  19824. > tak, ale opcjonalnie - duzo bardziej przydalby sie driver defragmentujacy
  19825. > pamiec
  19826.  
  19827. A myslisz ze z ochrona pamieci bylaby fragmentacja?
  19828.  
  19829. -- 
  19830.          Marcin Wrzeszcz          ______ _______-,
  19831.       Aln! / Appendix^Mawi       (_   | |\_   _/ |
  19832.     mailto:aln@ii.uni.wroc.pl     | ' | |_| | ||_|
  19833. http://tempus.ii.uni.wroc.pl/~aln |_|_|___|_|_|(_)
  19834. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 17 16:54:51 1998
  19835. Received: from arka.mtl.pl (root@mtl.pl [195.116.4.4]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA11620 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 16:51:14 +0100 (MET)
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  19837. Message-Id: <199803171550.QAA14901@arka.mtl.pl>
  19838. From: "Adam Zaparcinski" <gielda@mtl.pl>
  19839. To: "AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi" <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  19840. Subject: Odp: Problem z MUI 
  19841. Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 17:32:11 +0100
  19842. X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
  19843. X-Priority: 3
  19844. X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155
  19845. MIME-Version: 1.0
  19846. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2
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  19848.  
  19849. >Dolaczyles lib:amiga.lib. Bez tego wiesza sie przy wywolaniu
  19850. >DoSuperMethod().
  19851.  
  19852. >Wtedy w SASie moga pojawiac sie problemy z stdout - nie wiem czemu. Ale
  19853. >skompilujesz i bedzie chodzilo! (przynajmniej z SASem 6.50)
  19854.  
  19855. Dzieki. CHodzi tak jak napisales. Nie wiem tylko co zrobic ze _stdout. Czy
  19856. zadeklarowac w programie taka zmienna bedaca pointerem na wynik
  19857. dos.library/output() ?
  19858.  
  19859. Szer³ud
  19860. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 17 16:55:00 1998
  19861. Received: from arka.mtl.pl (root@mtl.pl [195.116.4.4]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA11624 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 16:51:20 +0100 (MET)
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  19863. Message-Id: <199803171550.QAA14918@arka.mtl.pl>
  19864. From: "Adam Zaparcinski" <gielda@mtl.pl>
  19865. To: "AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi" <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  19866. Subject: Odp: Zasilacze i reszta
  19867. Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 09:42:41 +0100
  19868. X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
  19869. X-Priority: 3
  19870. X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155
  19871. MIME-Version: 1.0
  19872. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
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  19874.  
  19875.  
  19876. > > Czy wielka filozofia jest zrobic przelotke z zasilacza pc, aby
  19877. > >mogl zasilac A1200?
  19878. > Musisz miec wtyczke taka jak ma Amiga i - sekund piec przerobka :))
  19879. > (sprawdz tylko, aby odpowiednio polaczyc kabelki - opis byl w jednym ze
  19880. > starych Amigowcow
  19881.  
  19882. Dobry opis jest w ACS 3/97
  19883.   
  19884. > >Czy zwykla obudowa miditower od pc (np: ATX), pasuje do plyty A1200, czy
  19885. trza
  19886. > Jedynie po przerobkach, troche trzeba zmienic wyglad takiej wierzy, ale 
  19887. > wtedy polecam raczej Big - towerka - nieduza roznica w cenia, a wiecej
  19888. > miejsca na kombinowanie
  19889. > >bedzie wiercic, ciac etc.?
  19890. > tak
  19891.  
  19892. Wiercic - tak, ciac - nie. To zreszta zalezy od tego jak bedziesz to montowal.
  19893. Wiercic trzeba bedzie w tej metalowej plycie, na ktora montuje sie plyte
  19894. glowna pc bo otwory z plyty Amigi nie pasuja. Ciac trzeba bedzie jesli
  19895. bedziesz chcial aby gniazda oryginalne a1200 byly na zewnatrz - wtedy trzeba
  19896. wyciac na nie podluzne otwory w tylnej sciance. Lepszym IMHO rozwiazaniem jest
  19897. cofniecie troche plyty do srodka obudowy tak, zeby gniazda byly wewnatrz i
  19898. przedluzenie ich na zewnatrz na sledziach pecetowych.
  19899.  
  19900. Sherwood
  19901. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 17 16:55:07 1998
  19902. Received: from arka.mtl.pl (root@mtl.pl [195.116.4.4]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA11622 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 16:51:19 +0100 (MET)
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  19904. Message-Id: <199803171550.QAA14911@arka.mtl.pl>
  19905. From: "Adam Zaparcinski" <gielda@mtl.pl>
  19906. To: "AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi" <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  19907. Subject: Odp: mUSASHI and AmigaOS
  19908. Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 09:33:11 +0100
  19909. X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
  19910. X-Priority: 3
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  19915.  
  19916. >Juz mowie (same konkrety :) - slowami Musashiego i troche swoimi (tak sie
  19917. >sklada, ze tez troche koduje i programuje). Jest tylko jedna choroba
  19918. >AmigaOS-a. Wszyscy o niej wiemy - Ty na pewno tez. Ten wspanialy,
  19919. >wielozadaniowy, elastyczny, przyjazny system operacyjny NIE MA OCHRONY
  19920. PAMIECI
  19921. >(slowa Musashiego). Nie pomoze tu wymienianie nastepnych zalet tego systemu -
  19922. >nie umywaja sie one do tego wlasnie bledu (chyba mozna to tak nazwac) -
  19923. >poniewaz uniemozliwia on zachowanie stabilnosci systemu, a ta sprawa chyba
  19924. >jest b.wazna? Dlaczego odstaje od innych? Poniewaz nie ma (i tu - mowie to ze
  19925. >wstydem ja moge sie mylic, poniewaz nie znam niestety kazdego systemu
  19926. >operacyjnego tak dobrze jak AmigaOS) prawdopodobnie innego OS-a, ktory nie
  19927. >posiadalby ochrony pamieci.
  19928.  
  19929. Zgadza sie. Amiga OS jest jedynym OSem bez ochrony pamieci. Ostatnio na
  19930. "systemach operacyjnych" facet nam wlasnie mowil troche o ochronie pamieci.
  19931. Jej brak moze sie wydawac wielk¹ wad¹. IMHO jednak jest to te¿ powa¿na zaleta
  19932. naszego komputera. Ju¿ t³umaczê dlaczego.
  19933.  
  19934. Po pierwsze: przy przekazywaniu danych innym procesom nie trzeba kopiowaæ
  19935. ca³ych bloków pamiêci. Jak wiadomo takie kopiowanie spowalnia ca³y system. W
  19936. sumie nie by³oby to du¿¹ przeszkod¹.
  19937.  
  19938. Po drugie i najwa¿niejsze: ochrona pamiêci potrzebna jest wtedy, gdy jest
  19939. przed czym t¹ pamiêæ chroniæ. CZy nie lepiej by by³o pisaæ dobre programy,
  19940. które nie bêd¹ grzebaæ bez potrzeby tam gdzie nie trzeba? Ochrona pamiêci jest
  19941. efektem chorego sposobu myœlenia naszej chorej cywilizacji sk³adaj¹cej siê w
  19942. wiêkszoœci z chorych jednostek wpajaj¹cych innym swoj¹ chorobê. Dziêki temu
  19943. mamy chorobliwy brak zaufania do wszystkich procesów i koniecznoœæ ochrony
  19944. przed ich wybrykami.
  19945.  
  19946. Pod tym wzglêdem Amiga jest wyj¹tkowa. Mam wra¿enie, ¿e wszystcy ju¿
  19947. zapomnieli co oznacza s³owo Amiga. Przypominam, ¿e jest to synonim przyjaŸni.
  19948. Z przyjaŸni¹ w parze idzie zaufanie. St¹d te¿ system Amigi jest systemem,
  19949. który ufa uruchamianym programom.
  19950.  
  19951. Czy tak trudno jest pisaæ programy, które nie nadwyrê¿aj¹ tego zaufania?
  19952.  
  19953. Wiem, ¿e mocno zajecha³em w filozofiê ale Musashi te¿ przyznawa³ siê do
  19954. filozofii.
  19955.  
  19956. Pozdrawiam
  19957.  
  19958. Sherwood
  19959.  
  19960. P.S. A g95 ca³y czas wiesza siê przy próbie zapisu na CD.
  19961. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 17 19:24:53 1998
  19962. Received: from plus.ds14.agh.edu.pl (bastian@plus.ds14.agh.edu.pl [149.156.196.254]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA12535 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 19:12:22 +0100 (MET)
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  19966. Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 19:14:06 +0100 (CET)
  19967. From: Grzegorz Junka <bastian@plus.ds14.agh.edu.pl>
  19968. X-Sender: bastian@plus
  19969. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  19970. cc: Lista dyskusyjna uzytkownikow komputera AMIGA AMIGAPL <AMIGA@PLEARN.EDU.PL>
  19971. Subject: Amiga nadal ma sie dobrze
  19972. Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.980317180638.2741A-100000@plus>
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  19975.  
  19976.  
  19977. Jakis czas temu na liscie wszyscy sie rozplywali w zachwytach na temat
  19978. artykulu o Amidze w Gazecie Wyborczej. Nie wiem, czy wiecie, ale maile
  19979. wysylane na adres gazety podzialaly chyba dosc pozytywnie na cala ta ich
  19980. redakcje, bo artykul ten zostal przedrukowany do dodatku BiK z dnia 10
  19981. marca w Gazecie Wyborczej ukazujacej sie w Bielsku-Bialej, Katowicach,
  19982. Krakowie, Nowym Saczu i Tarnowie (tamten artykul byl tylko w BiK dodawanym
  19983. do Gazety Wyborczej w okolicach Stolicy). W dodatku zostal on zaanonsowany
  19984. tlustym drukiem na pierwszej stronie dodatku! Moze by i teraz wyrazic
  19985. swoja dzwiecznosc mailami na
  19986.  
  19987. KiB@krak.gazeta.pl
  19988.  
  19989. Skoro poprzednie wywarly taki wplyw, co bedzie jak sie ich namnozy? Moze w
  19990. koncu beda jakies inne artykuly o powaznych komputerach, a nie tylko
  19991. rynek Wintelowy. Panowie! Do dziela!
  19992.  
  19993.  
  19994. Przy okazji chcialem zaproponowac krotka refleksje na temat tego artykulu.
  19995. Napisane bylo:
  19996.  
  19997. "Odkad Amiga jest w rekach samych Amigowcow, jej rozwoj dokonuje sie z
  19998. mysla o wygodzie i kieszeni uzytkownika, a nie z mysla o globalnej
  19999. strategii koncernu. (...) Pozbawiony centrali monopolistycznego wielkiego
  20000. brata jak IBM czy Microsoft rynek amigowy przykuwa uwage futurologow. Tak
  20001. wlasnie moze wygladac wolny rynek nadchodzacej ery cyberdemokracji." 
  20002.  
  20003. Podoba mi sie to slowo. Sam wczesniej nie zdawalem sobie sprawy z jego
  20004. trafnosci. Wezmy pod mlotek hardware. PPC wylansowala firma zupelnie nie
  20005. zwiazana ani z AI ani z GW2K. Ponadto ta firma pierwsza zadecydowala o
  20006. wieloprocesorowosci nowych Amig (od kart PPC poczawszy, poprzez pre/boxa a
  20007. na A/Boxie tymczasowo konczac). Mielismy tez po drodze karte graficzna
  20008. Picasso, ktora z zalozenia miala byc plyta rozszerzen dla dalszych
  20009. modulow. Cos z tego nie wyszlo, ale na tym w koncu polega demokracja.
  20010. Uzytkownicy wybrali.  Bedziemy mieli BoXeRa, mamy Draco i Casablance.
  20011. Zwykle mutacje Amigi. A czy sie przyjma? To bedzie zalezalo od ceny,
  20012. mozliwosci i widzimisie uzytkownikow. Swego czasu bylo tez glosno o
  20013. TransAmie. Zupelnie nowa architektura, sloty PCI zamiast Zorro. Nie mowiac
  20014. juz o takich drobiazgach, jak scandoublery, kontroler IDE Elboxu, Topolino
  20015. czy inne takie drobiazgi, o powodzeniu ktorych nic tak nie decyduje jak
  20016. wlasnie reakcja rynku na te same trzy wymienione juz wyzej parametry:
  20017. cene, mozliwosci i zapotrzebowanie. Czy ktos w swiecie PC odwazylby sie
  20018. przeforsowac plyte z zupelnie nowym zestawem slotow, niekompatybilnych z
  20019. PCI? Lub procesor, ktory bylby zupelnie nikompatybilny z calym
  20020. dotychczasowym dorobkiem softwareowym komputera (Apple przynajmniej
  20021. przetlumaczylo system operacyjny na PPC). A Phase5 zapowiedzialo juz karty
  20022. graficzne, ale nie na Zorro, lecz na jakims zupelnie nowym, dziwnym
  20023. interfejsie. W swiecie Amigi nie ma dyktatury wlasciciela, panuje pelna
  20024. demokracja - zwyciezaja rozwiazania trafione a nie rozreklamowane lub
  20025. narzucone.
  20026.  
  20027. Do niedawna napisalbym jeszcze, ze do dopelnienia tego obrazu brakuje
  20028. tylko udostepnienia przez AI zrodel systemu 3.1 i powierzenia dalszego
  20029. jego rozwoju samym Amigowcom. Samo AI przejelo by zas role koordynatora
  20030. projektu, tak by nie powstawaly w jednym czasie diametralnie rozniace sie
  20031. wersje tego samego systemu. Ale obecnie sam sie juz zastanawiam, czy
  20032. bylo by to jeszcze potrzebne. Obecnie sam system jest bardzo, bardzo
  20033. prymitywny. Przy zyciu utrzymuja go jeszcze tylko roznorakie latki i
  20034. programy, ktore jednak, wbrew pozorom, wspolpracujace wszystkie razem
  20035. tworza zupelnie sprawny i nowoczesny system operacyjny. Wystarczy
  20036. wspomniec o MultiUserFileSystem - zalatwia sprawe dostepu do jednego
  20037. komputera przez wielu uzytkownikow (i jest lepiej rozwiazany niz ta sama
  20038. funkcja w W95). Kolejna kobyla to oczywiscie Magellan, ktory w trybie
  20039. Workbench Replacement jest po prostu zupelnie nowa jakoscia dla starego
  20040. WB. Mamy tez i unix-like schedulera - Executive, kompletny i o bardzo
  20041. dyzych mozliwosciach system obslugi sieci - AmiTCP, fantastyczny pakiet
  20042. MUI rozwiazujacy problem zrobienia GUI szybko i ladnie, AHI i CyberGFX,
  20043. ktore z kolei w dziedzinie dzwieku i grafiki wprowadzaja do systemu to, co
  20044. powinien on miec juz dobrych kilka lat temu, nie wspominajac o setkach
  20045. programikow typu Commodities i programikach podmieniajacych standardowe
  20046. pliki AmigaOS. Do pelni szczescia brakuje jeszcze tylko ochrony pamieci,
  20047. co by sie to wszystko razem nie pogryzlo. To tez byl spory problem. Byl,
  20048. by okazuje sie, ze popyt rodzi podaz i Schatztruhe juz od jakiegos czasu
  20049. anonsuje opracowywanie programu do ochrony pamieci na Amidze: Amiga
  20050. MemGuard. Ma byc w maju. 
  20051.  
  20052. Oczywiscie, taka demokracja ma i swoje wady. Niezawsze wszystko jest ze
  20053. soba kompatybilne (np. AmiTCP i MUFS) i kazda taka czesc Amigi z osobna
  20054. kosztuje znacznie wiecej niz wszystkie czesci razem. No, ale jesli system
  20055. sklada sie z komponentow, zawsze latwiej wymienic cos co jest osobno (np. 
  20056. Magellana na ScalOS) niz cos co jest zabudowane w srodku. Po za tym,
  20057. skladajac, zawsze mozemy uzyc tylko tego, czego potrzebujemy. Jesli
  20058. wszystko bylo by w jednym (jak w W95) to nie bylo by demokracji, tylko
  20059. dyktatura. A dyktatura narzuca swoje rozwiazania jako najlepsze i na
  20060. dodatek wcale nie musi ich narzucac najtaniej. Zreszta, caly czas nalezy
  20061. pamietac o tym, ze dotychczasowa cyberdemokracja rozwijala sie w obliczu
  20062. ciaglej niepewnosci patentow AI, i chociaz bylo to dobre dla samej
  20063. cyberdemokracji, nie bylo dobre dla ludzi, ktorzy bali sie w obliczu tej
  20064. niepewnosci inwestowac. Lepiej juz jest tak, jak teraz. AI ma wszystkie
  20065. patenty w rece, moze je rozdawac na prawo i lewo, ale sama nic nie robi.
  20066. Nie przeszkadza to samej cyberdemokracji, ale ludzie maja juz ta swoja
  20067. pewnosci i nie boja sie Amigi kupowac. I tu kolo sie zamyka, bo jedno
  20068. napedza drugie. Stad smiem twierdzic, ze to co bylo do tej pory, to byla
  20069. tylko minicyberdemokracja. To co najciekawsze w tym wszystkim dopiero sie
  20070. zacznie! Naprawde, strasznie jestem ciekaw, dokad to nas wszystkich
  20071. zaprowadzi...
  20072.  
  20073. Badzmy dumni, zesmy Amigowcy :)
  20074.  
  20075. --
  20076. ,x80Y^"    Member of Amiga Promotion Group and fanatic AMIGA user
  20077. $0+'    Grzegorz Junka "Bastian"
  20078. 08    ramix@student.uci.agh.edu.pl    bastian@apg.plukwa.pdi.net
  20079. 0'
  20080. 9    A1200Inf 040/40Bliz 32Mb 1.6Gb 12x 1942S CN40BC
  20081.  
  20082. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 17 19:54:51 1998
  20083. Received: from gryzmak.lodz.pdi.net (gryzmak.lodz.pdi.net [195.116.162.1]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA12626 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 19:46:14 +0100 (MET)
  20084. Received: (from arturp@localhost)
  20085.     by gryzmak.lodz.pdi.net (8.8.7/2.1.1/L) id TAA32577;
  20086.     Tue, 17 Mar 1998 19:44:39 +0100
  20087. Message-ID: <19980317194439.07578@plukwa.pdi.net>
  20088. Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 19:44:39 +0100
  20089. From: Artur Pietruk <arturp@plukwa.pdi.net>
  20090. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  20091. Subject: Re: AmigaOS (bylo zupelnie co innego)
  20092. References: <199803171206.NAA10840@www.kki.net.pl> <19980317160908.21461@ii.uni.wroc.pl>
  20093. Mime-Version: 1.0
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  20095. X-Mailer: Mutt 0.83
  20096. In-Reply-To: <19980317160908.21461@ii.uni.wroc.pl>; from Marcin Wrzeszcz on Tue, Mar 17, 1998 at 04:09:08PM +0100
  20097.  
  20098. On Tue, Mar 17, 1998 at 04:09:08PM +0100, Marcin Wrzeszcz wrote:
  20099. > > dzieki temu, ze jej nie ma majac system z poczatku lat 90 mozesz go
  20100. > > spatchowac tak aby dzialal jak przystalo na koniec lat 90-tych...
  20101. > 
  20102. > Hmm... a takiego np. FreeBSD da sie spatchowac, a ma ochronke pamieci...
  20103.  
  20104.     Mylisz pojecia. W FreeBSD nie patchujesz samego systemu w momencie
  20105. kiedy juz dziala, lecz nakladasz laty na zrodla i potem je rekompilujesz.
  20106. Masz zrodla do AmigaOS? 
  20107.  
  20108.     Pozdrawia:
  20109.  
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  20113. - Email: arturp@pdi.net IRC: APair TEL: +48 44 7140906 -     ///  -
  20114. - Snail: ul.11 listopada 33a/19 97-140 Koluszki POLAND - \\\///   -
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  20116.  
  20117.         PGP public key - finger arturp@gryzmak.lodz.pdi.net
  20118.                 "My webpage exists - I've seen it!"
  20119. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 17 19:54:59 1998
  20120. Received: from gryzmak.lodz.pdi.net (gryzmak.lodz.pdi.net [195.116.162.1]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA12621 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 19:40:04 +0100 (MET)
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  20123.     Tue, 17 Mar 1998 19:38:29 +0100
  20124. Message-ID: <19980317193828.25305@plukwa.pdi.net>
  20125. Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 19:38:28 +0100
  20126. From: Artur Pietruk <arturp@plukwa.pdi.net>
  20127. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  20128. Subject: Re: MIDI
  20129. References: <yam7380.2696.2020787520@kki.net.pl>
  20130. Mime-Version: 1.0
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  20134. In-Reply-To: <yam7380.2696.2020787520@kki.net.pl>; from Lolo on Tue, Mar 17, 1998 at 02:36:53PM +0100
  20135.  
  20136. On Tue, Mar 17, 1998 at 02:36:53PM +0100, Lolo wrote:
  20137. > Hello,
  20138. > 
  20139. > Mam pytanie, jak tanim kosztem sluchaæ utworow midi w dobrej jako¶ci.
  20140. > Zaznaczam ¿e karta za 10 milionow + tower i sloty zorro odpada.
  20141. > Chodzi mi o cos *zdecydowanie tañszego.*
  20142.  
  20143.     Na aminecie gdzies w hard/ jest instrukcja jak podlaczyc do amigi
  20144. zwykly modul wavetable od kart muzycznych do peceta pod zlacze szeregowe.
  20145. Potem odpalasz jakiegos playera midi i jazda :-) Ja tego nie sprawdzalem
  20146. gdyz nie jestem muzykiem komputerowym i za bardzo mnie to nie
  20147. interesowalo, ale o ile dobrze pamietam Artur Muszynski sprawdzil jak
  20148. dziala.
  20149.  
  20150. -- 
  20151. -------------------------------------------------------------------
  20152. - Who  : Artur Pietruk - WebMaster @ PDi - www.pdi.net -      /// -
  20153. - Email: arturp@pdi.net IRC: APair TEL: +48 44 7140906 -     ///  -
  20154. - Snail: ul.11 listopada 33a/19 97-140 Koluszki POLAND - \\\///   -
  20155. - Using: AMIGA 4000/40 CV64-3D, A1240T                 -  \\//    -
  20156.  
  20157.         PGP public key - finger arturp@gryzmak.lodz.pdi.net
  20158.                 "My webpage exist - I've seen it!"
  20159. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 17 20:24:51 1998
  20160. Received: from friko.onet.pl (friko.onet.pl [194.204.191.9]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA12717 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 20:10:55 +0100 (MET)
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  20163.       id TAA32625 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 19:59:27 +0100
  20164. From: Ryszard Sajdak <rysieksa@friko2.onet.pl>
  20165. Reply-To: Ryszard Sajdak <rysieksa@friko2.onet.pl>
  20166. To: amigapl@amiga.com.pl
  20167. Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 19:48:47 +0100
  20168. Message-ID: <yam7380.2363.1745421176@friko.onet.pl>
  20169. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  20170. Organization: Amiga 1200/040/40MHz/16MB
  20171. Subject: YAM 2.0
  20172. MIME-Version: 1.0
  20173. X-ISO-CONVERTED: Yam_ISO2 1.06 (17.11.97) (c) Silver Dream !
  20174. X-YAMISO-UPDATE: ftp://wfmh.org.pl/pub/yam_iso2/
  20175. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  20176. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  20177.  
  20178. Mam taki problem z instalacj=B1 tego programiku:
  20179. Podczas instalacji jest niby wszystko OK, ale podczas pr=F3by uruchomieni=
  20180. a =
  20181.  
  20182. wszystko sobie doczytuje po czym pojawia sie na blacie WB tylko ikonka =
  20183.  
  20184. kt=F3rej nie mo=BFna otworzy=E6... Co jest nie tak?
  20185.  
  20186. HIROSHIMA '45 - CHERNOBYL '86 -->  WINDOWS '95
  20187.  
  20188. --> Amiga FAN :-) 1200 Tower/040/40MHz/16MB/1.2GB/x8CD/33,6k<------/
  20189. mail  to: #rysieksa@priv2.onet.pl#
  20190. IRC nick: #RyVar72#
  20191.  
  20192. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 17 20:54:52 1998
  20193. Received: from www.kki.net.pl (www.kki.net.pl [195.116.9.70]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA12784 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 20:30:34 +0100 (MET)
  20194. Received: from kki.net.pl (AKM-MAYA@pppa155.szczecin.tpnet.pl [194.204.141.155])
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  20196.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 20:30:47 +0100
  20197. From: Adam Majewski <akmmaya@kki.net.pl>
  20198. Reply-To: akmmaya@kki.net.pl
  20199. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  20200. Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 20:11:17 +0100
  20201. Message-ID: <yam7380.860.1748856976@kki.net.pl>
  20202. In-Reply-To: <199803171134.MAA21180@piast.pertus.com.pl>
  20203. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  20204. Subject: Re: Lista
  20205. MIME-Version: 1.0
  20206. X-ISO-CONVERTED: Yam_ISO2 1.06 (17.11.97) (c) Silver Dream !
  20207. X-YAMISO-UPDATE: ftp://wfmh.org.pl/pub/yam_iso2/
  20208. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  20209. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  20210.  
  20211. Dnia 17-Mar-98, Arkadiusz Winiarek napisa=B3:
  20212.  
  20213. >Interesuje mnie, czy istnieje jaka=B6 lista polskich u=BFytkownik=F3w Ma=
  20214. cintosha,
  20215. >dzia=B3aj=B1ca jak lista na amigapl@amiga.com.pl w ojczystym j=EAzyku?
  20216. >Je=B6li kto=B6 co=B6 wie, to prosz=EA o odpowied=BC. =
  20217.  
  20218.  
  20219. Oczywi=B6cie =BFe istnieje taka lista :)
  20220.  
  20221. adres: listserv@plearn.edu.pl
  20222. tre=B6=E6 listu:
  20223. subscribe applepl imie nazwisko
  20224.  
  20225. -- =
  20226.  
  20227. Pozdrawiam :-)
  20228.  
  20229. mailto: akmmaya@kki.net.pl
  20230. www: http://www.kki.net.pl/akmmaya
  20231.  
  20232. :-)  w=F3wren  eibos  juCP  ein  (-:
  20233.                                                            Adam Majewski
  20234.  
  20235.  
  20236.  
  20237. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 17 20:55:03 1998
  20238. Received: from www.kki.net.pl (www.kki.net.pl [195.116.9.70]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA12786 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 20:30:41 +0100 (MET)
  20239. Received: from kki.net.pl (AKM-MAYA@pppa155.szczecin.tpnet.pl [194.204.141.155])
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  20241.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 20:30:53 +0100
  20242. From: Adam Majewski <akmmaya@kki.net.pl>
  20243. Reply-To: akmmaya@kki.net.pl
  20244. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  20245. Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 20:08:59 +0100
  20246. Message-ID: <yam7380.2969.1748856976@kki.net.pl>
  20247. In-Reply-To: <yam7380.2696.2020787520@kki.net.pl>
  20248. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  20249. Subject: Re: MIDI
  20250. MIME-Version: 1.0
  20251. X-ISO-CONVERTED: Yam_ISO2 1.06 (17.11.97) (c) Silver Dream !
  20252. X-YAMISO-UPDATE: ftp://wfmh.org.pl/pub/yam_iso2/
  20253. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  20254. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  20255.  
  20256. Dnia 17-Mar-98, Lolo napisa=B3:
  20257.  
  20258. >Hello,
  20259.  
  20260. >Mam pytanie, jak tanim kosztem slucha=E6 utworow midi w dobrej jako=B6ci=
  20261. =2E
  20262. >Zaznaczam =BFe karta za 10 milionow + tower i sloty zorro odpada.
  20263. >Chodzi mi o cos *zdecydowanie ta=F1szego.*
  20264.  
  20265. Nie potrzeba =BFadnych kart :)
  20266. Ja u siebie uruchamiam GMPlay i jest miodzio. Program jest freeware,
  20267. szukaj na aminecie
  20268.  
  20269. ps. =B6ci=B1gnij sobie jednocze=B6nie GUI do tego programu.
  20270.  
  20271. -- =
  20272.  
  20273. Pozdrawiam :-)
  20274.  
  20275. mailto: akmmaya@kki.net.pl
  20276. www: http://www.kki.net.pl/akmmaya
  20277.  
  20278. :-)  w=F3wren  eibos  juCP  ein  (-:
  20279.                                                            Adam Majewski
  20280.  
  20281.  
  20282.  
  20283. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 17 20:55:09 1998
  20284. Received: from www.kki.net.pl (www.kki.net.pl [195.116.9.70]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA12782 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 20:30:29 +0100 (MET)
  20285. Received: from kki.net.pl (AKM-MAYA@pppa155.szczecin.tpnet.pl [194.204.141.155])
  20286.     by www.kki.net.pl (8.8.7/8.8.7.ver6) with SMTP id UAA04234
  20287.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 20:30:40 +0100
  20288. From: Adam Majewski <akmmaya@kki.net.pl>
  20289. Reply-To: akmmaya@kki.net.pl
  20290. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  20291. Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 20:16:30 +0100
  20292. Message-ID: <yam7380.1520.1748856976@kki.net.pl>
  20293. In-Reply-To: <199803170805.JAA20004@piast.pertus.com.pl>
  20294. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  20295. Subject: Re: PPC do A1200
  20296. MIME-Version: 1.0
  20297. X-ISO-CONVERTED: Yam_ISO2 1.06 (17.11.97) (c) Silver Dream !
  20298. X-YAMISO-UPDATE: ftp://wfmh.org.pl/pub/yam_iso2/
  20299. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  20300. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  20301.  
  20302. Dnia 17-Mar-98, Arkadiusz Winiarek napisa=B3:
  20303.  
  20304. >A ja mam "mi=B3=B1" wiadomo=B6=E6 dla u=BFytkownik=F3w kart z prockiem 0=
  20305. 60.
  20306. >Po nied=B3ugich rozmowach z Marktomem dowiedzialem si=EA, =BFe z mojej k=
  20307. arty
  20308. (Apollo
  20309. >060/50) upgrade-u do PPC nie zrobi=B1, bo ... trudno im b=EAdzie p=F3=BC=
  20310. niej sprzeda=E6
  20311. >to co oddam ...
  20312.  
  20313. >I co wy na to ?
  20314.  
  20315. "Lekkie" przegi=EAcie :( by=E6 mo=BFe trzeba b=EAdzie sprzedawa=E6 karty =
  20316. na w=B3asn=B1
  20317. r=EAk=EA :( Je=B6li nie kupi=B3e=B6 karty w EURECE to tam te=BF nie ma po=
  20318.  co i=B6=E6 :(
  20319. A tak wszyscy obiecywali... PowerUP
  20320. Ale po=BFyjemy, zobaczymy, miejmy nadziej=EA, =BFe si=EA to zmieni :)))
  20321.  
  20322. -- =
  20323.  
  20324. Pozdrawiam :-)
  20325.  
  20326. mailto: akmmaya@kki.net.pl
  20327. www: http://www.kki.net.pl/akmmaya
  20328.  
  20329. :-)  w=F3wren  eibos  juCP  ein  (-:
  20330.                                                            Adam Majewski
  20331.  
  20332.  
  20333.  
  20334. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 17 21:24:56 1998
  20335. Received: from host.pkp.wroc.pl (host.pkp.wroc.pl [156.17.194.29]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA12921 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 21:11:58 +0100 (MET)
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  20338.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 21:12:41 +0100 (CET)
  20339. Date: 17 Mar 98 15:57:14 +0100
  20340. From: "Piotr Walaszek" <tygrysek@pkp.wroc.pl>
  20341. Subject: znikajace przyciski
  20342. To: amigapl@amiga.com.pl
  20343. Message-ID: <648.380T737T9571281@pkp.wroc.pl>
  20344. MIME-Version: 1.0
  20345. Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
  20346. Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit
  20347. X-Mailer: THOR 2.5a (Amiga;TCP/IP) *UNREGISTERED*
  20348.  
  20349. Grrrrrr, :)
  20350.  
  20351. Zauwazylem cos ciekawego - po zainstalowaniu cgxv41_r70.lha czyli
  20352. CyberGraphX 41.18 zniknely mi przyciski w listerach magellana...
  20353. Po zamianie samej tylko bilioteki cgxsystem.library na starsza
  20354. (cgxv41_r69f.lha), wszystko wrocilo do normy :O
  20355. Czyzby jakis maly blad w nowszej wersji ?
  20356. Czy komus tez sie tak stalo ?
  20357.  
  20358.     "`-/")_.-'"``-._      Grrrrrr, :)
  20359.     . . `: -._    )-:-,_       Amiga E/Box 1230/50, 18MB, 2.5Gb + 6.3Gb hdd,
  20360.    (*_,)'  _  )`-.\  ``-'      CD4x4, NEC Multisync3D, ZII i CV64/3d
  20361.   _.- _..-_/ / ((.'       tygrysek@friko.onet.pl        tygrysek@pkp.wroc.pl
  20362. _((,.-'  ((,/             http://friko.onet.pl/wr/tygrysek
  20363.  
  20364. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 17 21:54:52 1998
  20365. Received: from friko.onet.pl (friko.onet.pl [194.204.191.9]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA12990 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 21:29:13 +0100 (MET)
  20366. Received: from priv.onet.pl (Siera@pppa36.poznan.tpnet.pl [194.204.178.36])
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  20368.       id VAA11181 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 21:17:41 +0100
  20369. From: Siera <sie@friko.onet.pl>
  20370. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  20371. Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 18:40:58 +0100
  20372. Message-ID: <yam7380.2950.120332144@priv.onet.pl>
  20373. In-Reply-To: <yam7380.385.505836896@friko2.onet.pl>
  20374. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  20375. Subject: Re[2]: Pomysl - Tani Tower do A1200
  20376. MIME-Version: 1.0
  20377. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  20378. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  20379.  
  20380. ÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿ
  20381. Dnia 17-Mar-98, Blazej Zagozda napisal:
  20382. > Dnia 13-Mar-98, Adam Zaparcinski napisa=B3:
  20383. >> =F3=BFne firmy oferuj=B1 nam r=F3=BFne obudowy do naszych A1200 po r=F3=
  20384. =BFnych wysokich
  20385. >> . Kumpel podda=B3 mi pomys=B3: Skoro niekt=F3re z tych obud=F3w to zwy=
  20386. k=B3e
  20387. >> midi-tower ze wstawion=B1 inn=B1 tyln=B1 =B6ciank=B1 i nak=B3adk=B1 na=
  20388.  p=B3yt=E6 do
  20389. >> lyty g=B3=F3wnej to czemu nie mo=BFna kupi=E6 samych takich nak=B3adek=
  20390.  i
  20391. > tylnych
  20392. >> ? Tu widz=E6 pole do popisu dla Amigowc=F3w. Przecie=BF zrobienie taki=
  20393. ej
  20394. >> to tylko kwestia wywiercenia paru dziurek w blasze metalowej - koszty
  20395. > s=B1
  20396. >> . Kto=B6 m=F3g=B3by robi=E6 takie tylne =B6cianki (rozk=B3ad otwor=F3w=
  20397.  w
  20398. > obudowach
  20399. >> chyba ten sam) i p=B3yty do monta=BFu naszej p=B3yty A1200 i sprzedawa=
  20400. =E6
  20401. >> za 20 z=B3 za komplet. Potem tylko dokupi=E6 pecetow=B1 obudow=E6
  20402. > midi-tower
  20403. >> zrobione. A firmy produkuj=B1ce towerki by si=E6 w=B6ciek=B3y.
  20404.  
  20405. Ja bym to mogl robic ale mi sie nie chce. Juz takie cos nie jeden raz rob=
  20406. ilem.
  20407. Aha Zrobienie calej nowej scianki jest bez sensu lepiej nawiercic otwory =
  20408. mowie
  20409. i o sciance tylnej i o bocznej wewnetrznej.
  20410.  
  20411. Przelotki do didek i klawiatury tez bym mogl robic. Moze ktos zalozy ze m=
  20412. na
  20413. spolke.???
  20414.       _____ _ _____ _____________
  20415.      |     | |     |     \       |     A4000/040/25MHz/16Mb/545Mb/CV64
  20416.      |   --| |  ---|  O   |   |  |     mailto: sie@priv.onet.pl
  20417.      |     | |     |     /       |     priv.onet.pl/po/sie/ =
  20418.  
  20419.      |---  | |  ---|  _  \    |  |     Lista przebojow !!!
  20420.      |_____|_|_____|_| \__\___|__|
  20421.  
  20422.   =
  20423.  
  20424.      =
  20425.  
  20426.       =
  20427.  
  20428.       =
  20429.  
  20430.  
  20431.  
  20432. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 17 21:55:03 1998
  20433. Received: from piast.pertus.com.pl (root@piast.pertus.com.pl [195.116.191.6]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA13080 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 21:53:42 +0100 (MET)
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  20436.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 21:56:33 +0100
  20437. Message-Id: <199803172056.VAA26270@piast.pertus.com.pl>
  20438. From: "Arkadiusz Winiarek" <sharky@pertus.com.pl>
  20439. To: <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  20440. Subject: Odp.: Yam 2.0
  20441. Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 21:43:24 +0100
  20442. X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
  20443. X-Priority: 3
  20444. X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1157
  20445. MIME-Version: 1.0
  20446. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2
  20447. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  20448.  
  20449. Hej!
  20450.  
  20451. Przez jaki=B6 czas mia=B3em podobny problem, a p=F3=BCniej okaza=B3o =
  20452. si=EA, =BFe brakuje jakich=B6 plik=F3w "muiowych". Proponuj=EA =
  20453. uruchomi=E6 najpierw SnoopDosa i zobaczy=E6 co jest nie tak.
  20454.  
  20455. A tak wog=F3le, to mo=BFesz mi wrzuci=E6 na adres priva: =
  20456. sharky@kki.net.pl Yama2.0 je=B6li chcesz, bo wysypa=B3 mi si=EA =
  20457. twardziel i ju=BF teraz go nie mam.
  20458. =20
  20459.  
  20460. Greetings!
  20461.  
  20462.          "Sharky" Arkadiusz Winiarek
  20463.                  Happy Amiga User!
  20464. A-1200T/2.1GB/1260/50/32MB Fast RAM
  20465.                  Jawor woj. legnickie
  20466. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 17 21:55:09 1998
  20467. Received: from friko.onet.pl (friko.onet.pl [194.204.191.9]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA13017 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 21:39:16 +0100 (MET)
  20468. Received: from robert_n (ppp@pppa116.poznan.tpnet.pl [194.204.178.116])
  20469.           by friko.onet.pl (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP
  20470.       id VAA12760 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 21:27:36 +0100
  20471. From: Robert Nowak <robert_n@friko.onet.pl>
  20472. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  20473. Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 17:15:57 +0100
  20474. Message-ID: <yam7380.2881.2015084240@priv.onet.pl>
  20475. In-Reply-To: <yam7379.2718.142383976@fiber.net.pl>
  20476. X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview3 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
  20477. Subject: Pilnie sprzedam
  20478. MIME-Version: 1.0
  20479. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  20480. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  20481.  
  20482. Sory, =BFe na list=EA....
  20483.  
  20484. Pilnie sprzedam Blizzarda 1230 IV 50MHz - 250z=B3.
  20485.  
  20486. Je=B6li jest kto=B6 zainteresowany, to na priva.
  20487.  
  20488. Hej.
  20489.  
  20490. PS Nie pami=EAtam, ale czy w regulaminie jest zabronione wysy=B3anie na l=
  20491. ist=EA prywatnych og=B3osze=F1?
  20492. Musz=EA to dzisiaj sprawdzi=E6.
  20493.  
  20494.  ----------------
  20495.    Robert Nowak
  20496.  
  20497.  E-Mail:  robert_n@priv.onet.pl
  20498.  WWW:     http://friko.onet.pl/pi/amiga_pl
  20499.  
  20500.    A-1200T/1.7GB/1230IV50/32MB Fast RAM.
  20501.  
  20502.  "Amiga is indestructible - Amiga is alive!"
  20503.  
  20504. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 17 22:24:52 1998
  20505. Received: from www.kki.net.pl (www.kki.net.pl [195.116.9.70]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA13144 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 22:12:13 +0100 (MET)
  20506. Received: from kki.net.pl (Lolo^@ppp140.lublin.tpnet.pl [194.204.161.140])
  20507.     by www.kki.net.pl (8.8.7/8.8.7.ver6) with SMTP id WAA26298
  20508.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 22:12:30 +0100
  20509. From: Lolo <lolorad@friko.onet.pl>
  20510. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  20511. Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 20:17:10 +0100
  20512. Message-ID: <yam7380.525.2015491512@kki.net.pl>
  20513. In-Reply-To: <yam7378.2645.128586760@mail.union.org.pl>
  20514. X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
  20515. Subject: Re[2]: PPC do A1200
  20516. MIME-Version: 1.0
  20517. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  20518. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  20519.  
  20520. On 15-Mar-98, Artur Muszynski wrote:
  20521. > =
  20522.  
  20523. > Eureka kilka Blizzard=F3w PPC sprowadzi=B3a i ju=BF zd=B1=BFy=B3a sprze=
  20524. da=E6. Na razie
  20525. s=B1
  20526. > tylko wersje z 040. Z 060 b=EAd=B1... no w=B3a=B6nie dok=B3adnie nie wi=
  20527. adomo.
  20528.  
  20529. Takie pytanka: czy te karty maj=B1 wbudowane SCSI i gniazdo do kart
  20530. graficznych, czy zmieszcz=B1 sie do oryginalnej obudowy czy musi by=E6 to=
  20531. wer ?
  20532.  
  20533. -- =
  20534.  
  20535.                                    Radoslaw Flis - Lolo
  20536.                                   lolorad@friko.onet.pl
  20537.                                   lolorad@free.polbox.pl
  20538.                         A1200/030/FPU/50MHz/32Fast&2.1+0.5GB HD&CD
  20539.                                MultisyncColor/Sportster28k8
  20540.  
  20541. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 17 22:24:59 1998
  20542. Received: from piast.pertus.com.pl (root@piast.pertus.com.pl [195.116.191.6]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA13139 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 22:09:37 +0100 (MET)
  20543. Received: from default (ppp223.legnica.tpnet.pl [195.116.255.223])
  20544.     by piast.pertus.com.pl (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id WAA26344
  20545.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 22:12:29 +0100
  20546. Message-Id: <199803172112.WAA26344@piast.pertus.com.pl>
  20547. From: "Arkadiusz Winiarek" <sharky@pertus.com.pl>
  20548. To: <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  20549. Subject: Pinball BD
  20550. Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 22:10:55 +0100
  20551. X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
  20552. X-Priority: 3
  20553. X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1157
  20554. MIME-Version: 1.0
  20555. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2
  20556. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  20557.  
  20558. Hej!
  20559.  
  20560. Mam ma=B3e pytanko:
  20561.  
  20562. - mo=BFe komu=B6 uda=B3o si=EA odpali=E6 Pinball Brain Damage na 060, a =
  20563. je=B6li tak to jak?
  20564.  
  20565. U mnie ca=B3y czas si=EA wiesza ... (no i resecik)
  20566.  
  20567. Greetings!
  20568.  
  20569.          "Sharky" Arkadiusz Winiarek
  20570.                  Happy Amiga User!
  20571. A-1200T/2.1GB/1260/50/32MB Fast RAM
  20572.                  Jawor woj. legnickie
  20573. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 17 22:25:05 1998
  20574. Received: from mx1.polbox.com (mx1.polbox.com [195.116.5.16]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA13125 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 22:00:29 +0100 (MET)
  20575. Received: from polbox.com (root@pppa108.kielce.tpnet.pl [195.116.245.108])
  20576.     by mx1.polbox.com (8.8.8/rev-A0) with SMTP id WAA23137
  20577.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 22:03:46 +0100
  20578. From: Jaroslaw Waligorski <jwalig@polbox.com>
  20579. Reply-To: jwalig@polbox.com
  20580. To: amigapl@amiga.com.pl
  20581. Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 21:59:25 +0100
  20582. Message-ID: <yam7380.1269.1748878160@smtp.polbox.com>
  20583. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  20584. Subject: Katalog =?iso-8859-2?Q?kt=F3ry?= i jest, i go nie ma... 
  20585. MIME-Version: 1.0
  20586. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  20587. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  20588.  
  20589. CZE=D4C !!!
  20590.  
  20591. W zwi=E2zku z dzia=EEaniem pewnego programu pad=EEa mi na twardym walidac=
  20592. ja.
  20593. Kiedy ju=FB si=EB naprawi=EEa, okaza=EEo si=EB =FBe jeden z katalog=F3w j=
  20594. est =
  20595.  
  20596. niemo=FBliwy do usuni=EBcia. Tzn. ikona jest widziana przez system, lecz
  20597. pr=F3ba skasowania go np. spod FileMastera ko=EFczy si=EB wy=F4wietleniem=
  20598.  =
  20599.  
  20600. komunikatu =FBe niby go usun=E2=EE lecz dalej go wy=F4wietla.Z kolei pr=F3=
  20601. ba
  20602. otwarcia ko=EFczy si=EB komunitatem "Lock() Failed !!! .... obiekt nie
  20603. znaleziony".Katalogu narz=EBdnego te=FB si=EB przez to nie da usuna=EA.
  20604. Przypuszczam =FBe kiedy naprawia=EE walidacje, co=F4 mu si=EB pokopa=EEo.=
  20605. =2E.
  20606.  
  20607. Mam takie pytanie: czy kiedy b=EBd=EB chcia=EE tak=E2 partycje optymalizo=
  20608. wa=EA
  20609. mog=E2 wyst=E2pi=EA jakie=F4 k=EEopoty ????
  20610.  
  20611. (Reorg po przeczytaniu ca=EEej struktury partycji nie zg=EEasza =FBadnych=
  20612.  
  20613. b=EE=EBd=F3w...)
  20614.  
  20615.                                                             \ JARUS /
  20616.                                                              \-=3D-=3D-/
  20617.  
  20618.    *--------------------------------------------------------------------*=
  20619.  
  20620.    |     Jaros=EEaw 'Jarus' Walig=F3rski    |   email: jwalig@polbox.com =
  20621.    |
  20622.    *--------------------------------------------------------------------*=
  20623.  
  20624.    | A 1230/50 FPU 882/50 16MB RAM HD 850MB CDROM 8x USR SSter 33.600   |=
  20625.  
  20626.    *--------------------------------------------------------------------*=
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  20628.  
  20629. ----- [ REKLAMA / ADVERTISEMENT ] ------------------------
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  20631. Zostan Autoryzowanym Partnerem Polbox On-Line Service!
  20632. Szczegoly:  http://www.polbox.pl/98partner.html
  20633.  
  20634. ----------------------------------------------------------
  20635.  
  20636. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 17 22:25:12 1998
  20637. Received: from mx1.polbox.com (root@mx1.polbox.com [195.116.5.16]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA13116 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 21:59:25 +0100 (MET)
  20638. Received: from polbox.com (root@pppa108.kielce.tpnet.pl [195.116.245.108])
  20639.     by mx1.polbox.com (8.8.8/rev-A0) with SMTP id WAA22921
  20640.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 22:02:31 +0100
  20641. From: Jaroslaw Waligorski <jwalig@polbox.com>
  20642. Reply-To: jwalig@polbox.com
  20643. To: amigapl@amiga.com.pl
  20644. Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 21:58:12 +0100
  20645. Message-ID: <yam7380.617.1748878160@smtp.polbox.com>
  20646. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  20647. Subject: Ogonki w WorthWordzie 6.0.....
  20648. MIME-Version: 1.0
  20649. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  20650. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  20651.  
  20652. CZE=D4C ALL !!!!
  20653.  
  20654. Mam takie pytanko: Co zrobi=EA =FBeby WordWorth 6.0 widzia=EE polskie
  20655. ogonki w czcionkach True Type ? Kiedy=F4 u=FBywa=EEem wersji 4.0 SE i
  20656. ona widzia=EEa polskie ogonki w TTypach  bez problem=F3w.Chodzi oto =
  20657.  
  20658. =FBe zale=FBy mi bardzo na fontach TimesNewRomanCE i ArialCE bo  s=E2 =
  20659.  
  20660. naprawd=EB extra....
  20661.  
  20662. Pozdrowienia 4 all !!!
  20663.  
  20664.                                                             \ JARUS /
  20665.                                                              \-=3D-=3D-/
  20666.  
  20667.    *--------------------------------------------------------------------*=
  20668.  
  20669.    |     Jaros=EEaw 'Jarus' Walig=F3rski    |   email: jwalig@polbox.com =
  20670.    |
  20671.    *--------------------------------------------------------------------*=
  20672.  
  20673.    | A 1230/50 FPU 882/50 16MB RAM HD 850MB CDROM 8x USR SSter 33.600   |=
  20674.  
  20675.    *--------------------------------------------------------------------*=
  20676.  
  20677.  
  20678. ----- [ REKLAMA / ADVERTISEMENT ] ------------------------
  20679.  
  20680. Zostan Autoryzowanym Partnerem Polbox On-Line Service!
  20681. Szczegoly:  http://www.polbox.pl/98partner.html
  20682.  
  20683. ----------------------------------------------------------
  20684.  
  20685. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 17 22:54:52 1998
  20686. Received: from www.kki.net.pl (www.kki.net.pl [195.116.9.70]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA13192 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 22:26:53 +0100 (MET)
  20687. Received: from kki.net.pl (Lolo^@ppp140.lublin.tpnet.pl [194.204.161.140])
  20688.     by www.kki.net.pl (8.8.7/8.8.7.ver6) with SMTP id WAA29792
  20689.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 22:27:09 +0100
  20690. From: Lolo <lolorad@friko.onet.pl>
  20691. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  20692. Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 22:23:39 +0100
  20693. Message-ID: <yam7380.1966.2014545008@kki.net.pl>
  20694. In-Reply-To: <yam7380.2969.1748856976@kki.net.pl>
  20695. X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
  20696. Subject: Re[2]: MIDI
  20697. MIME-Version: 1.0
  20698. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  20699. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  20700.  
  20701. On 17-Mar-98, Adam Majewski wrote:
  20702. >> pytanie, jak tanim kosztem slucha=E6 utworow midi w dobrej jako=B6ci.
  20703. >> =BFe karta za 10 milionow + tower i sloty zorro odpada.
  20704. >> mi o cos *zdecydowanie ta=F1szego.*
  20705. > =
  20706.  
  20707. > Nie potrzeba =BFadnych kart :)
  20708. > Ja u siebie uruchamiam GMPlay i jest miodzio. Program jest freeware,
  20709. > szukaj na aminecie
  20710. > =
  20711.  
  20712. > ps. =B6ci=B1gnij sobie jednocze=B6nie GUI do tego programu.
  20713.  
  20714. Chyba mnie nie zrozumia=B3e=B6. Mam GMPlay, mam do niego nak=B3adki MUI i=
  20715.  zwyk=B3e
  20716. ale jako=B6=E6
  20717. odgrywania jest fatalna.
  20718. Odsluchaj sobie jakiego=B6 utworu z Amigi (bez karty na samej Pauli) a po=
  20719. tem
  20720. dla por=F3wnania
  20721. tej samej na syntezatorze i jeszcze raz na dobrej karcie w piecu. Dzwi=EA=
  20722. k z
  20723. ami wypada fatalnie.
  20724. W zwi=B1zku z tym jak najta=F1szym kosztem mozna osi=B1gn=B1=E6 dobry d=BF=
  20725. wi=EAk na Ami
  20726. ??? por=F3wnywalny
  20727. z orygina=B3em (syntezator) ????
  20728.  
  20729. -- =
  20730.  
  20731.                                    Radoslaw Flis - Lolo
  20732.                                   lolorad@friko.onet.pl
  20733.                                   lolorad@free.polbox.pl
  20734.                         A1200/030/FPU/50MHz/32Fast&2.1+0.5GB HD&CD
  20735.                                MultisyncColor/Sportster28k8
  20736.  
  20737. From owner-amigapl  Wed Mar 18 00:24:52 1998
  20738. Received: from www.kki.net.pl (www.kki.net.pl [195.116.9.70]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA13492 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 00:04:20 +0100 (MET)
  20739. Received: from kki.net.pl (Wembley@ppp67.slupsk.tpnet.pl [194.204.177.67])
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  20741.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 00:04:33 +0100
  20742. From: Pawel Golebiewski <wembley@kki.net.pl>
  20743. To: Lista AmigaPL <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  20744. Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 00:01:30 +0300
  20745. Message-ID: <yam7381.1512.19940016@kki.net.pl>
  20746. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  20747. Subject: Gadgety
  20748. MIME-Version: 1.0
  20749. Content-Type: text/plain
  20750.  
  20751. Hej!
  20752.  
  20753. Mam taki problem, pisze program, w ktorym chce obslugiwac gadgety i wpisuje
  20754. taki fragment kodu:
  20755.  
  20756.  
  20757. void JakaWiadomosc(struct IntuiMessage *komunikat)
  20758.   {
  20759.     int (*func)(void);
  20760.  
  20761.     if (komunikat->Class == IDCMP_GADGETUP)
  20762.       {
  20763.         func=(int *)((struct Gadget*)(komunikat->IAddress))->UserData; 
  20764. //<-TUU
  20765.       }
  20766.   }
  20767.  
  20768. W miejscu oznaczonym <-TUU kompilator (Storm C 2.0)wyzuca blad Assigment type 
  20769. (czy jakos tak). Nie rozumiem dlaczego, wydaje sie, ze mam wszustko dobrze.
  20770.  
  20771. Odpowiedzi prosze na adres:
  20772.  
  20773. lostoczlu@waw.ids.edu.pl
  20774.  
  20775. lub na liste, jesli kogos to interesuje.
  20776.  
  20777.  
  20778. Piotr Hoppe
  20779. alias Bruner
  20780.  
  20781. From owner-amigapl  Wed Mar 18 00:54:53 1998
  20782. Received: from arka.szczecin.mtl.pl (root@arka.szczecin.mtl.pl [195.117.116.4]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA13575 for <amigapl@wfmh.fiber.net.pl>; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 00:32:04 +0100 (MET)
  20783. Received: from marktom.com.pl (mttomek@rmod10.szczecin.mtl.pl [195.117.116.42]) by arka.szczecin.mtl.pl (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA16770 for <amigapl@wfmh.fiber.net.pl>; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 00:31:11 GMT
  20784. From: Tomasz Szubryt <tomek@marktom.com.pl>
  20785. To: Lista dyskusyjna =?iso-8859-2?Q?u=BFytkownik=F3w?= Amigi <amigapl@wfmh.fiber.net.pl>
  20786. Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 00:16:09 +0100
  20787. Message-ID: <yam7381.451.139802808@arka.szczecin.mtl.pl>
  20788. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  20789. Organization: Marktom
  20790. Subject: MARKTOM WWW
  20791. MIME-Version: 1.0
  20792. X-ISO-CONVERTED: Yam_ISO2 1.05 (02.11.97) (c) Silver Dream !
  20793. X-YAMISO-UPDATE: ftp://wfmh.man.szczecin.pl/pub/yam_iso2/
  20794. Content-Type: text/plain
  20795.  
  20796. Zapraszam do odwiedzenia, jeszcze niedopracowanej amigowej strony na
  20797. www.marktom.com.pl/amiga.html
  20798.  
  20799. pozdrawiam,
  20800.  
  20801. Webmaster
  20802. -- 
  20803. Tomasz Szubryt
  20804. #tomek@marktom.com.pl#
  20805.  
  20806.  
  20807.  
  20808. From owner-amigapl  Wed Mar 18 01:24:52 1998
  20809. Received: from server.fiber.net.pl (server.fiber.net.pl [195.117.208.101]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA13720 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 01:03:50 +0100 (MET)
  20810. Received: from server.fiber.net.pl (async50.fiber.net.pl [195.117.208.50])
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  20812.           id AAA25158 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>;
  20813.           Wed, 18 Mar 1998 01:03:31 +0100
  20814. From: Admin <owner-amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  20815. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  20816. Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 01:00:48 +0100
  20817. Message-ID: <yam7381.2412.145292408@server.fiber.net.pl>
  20818. In-Reply-To: <yam7380.2881.2015084240@priv.onet.pl>
  20819. X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 beta10 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
  20820. Organization: W.F.M.H.   (http://wfmh.org.pl)
  20821. Subject: Re: Pilnie sprzedam
  20822. MIME-Version: 1.0
  20823. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  20824. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  20825.  
  20826. Dnia 17-Mar-98, Robert Nowak napisa=B3:
  20827.  
  20828. > PS Nie pami=EAtam, ale czy w regulaminie jest zabronione wysy=B3anie na=
  20829.  list=EA
  20830. > prywatnych og=B3osze=F1? Musz=EA to dzisiaj sprawdzi=E6.
  20831.  
  20832. Jeszcze nie.
  20833.  
  20834. -- =
  20835.  
  20836.  Admin                           mailto:owner-amigapl@amiga.com.pl
  20837.  
  20838.  
  20839.  
  20840. From owner-amigapl  Wed Mar 18 01:54:53 1998
  20841. Received: from server.fiber.net.pl (server.fiber.net.pl [195.117.208.101]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA13869 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 01:33:15 +0100 (MET)
  20842. Received: from amiga.com.pl (pppb32.szczecin.tpnet.pl [195.205.239.32])
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  20845.           Wed, 18 Mar 1998 01:32:54 +0100
  20846. From: Miloslaw Smyk <thorgal@amiga.com.pl>
  20847. To: amigapl@amiga.com.pl
  20848. Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 13:10:37 +0100
  20849. Message-ID: <yam7380.1899.139241736@fiber.net.pl>
  20850. X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview3 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
  20851. Organization: W.F.M.H.
  20852. Subject: Public beta release of AmiAWT (fwd)
  20853. MIME-Version: 1.0
  20854. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  20855. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  20856.  
  20857. Kto=B6 tu ostatnio o Jav=EA pyta=B3...
  20858.  
  20859. Mi=B3ek
  20860. *** Forwarded message, originally written by jamesd@spirit.com.au on
  20861. 16-Mar-98 ***
  20862.  
  20863. G'day,
  20864.  
  20865.   Its been far too quiet here lately, so lets stir things up.
  20866.  
  20867.   AmiAWT is an implementation of the Java AWT for the Amiga. A beta versi=
  20868. on,
  20869. version 0.10, is now available at http://www.spirit.net.au/~jamesd/AWT-Be=
  20870. ta/
  20871. It is not complete yet, but I have made it available for comments, furthe=
  20872. r
  20873. testing and to gauge the demand for updates.
  20874.  
  20875.   I have included the readme file to give an idea of what it does. Any
  20876. comments, suggestions etc would be greatly appreciated.
  20877.  
  20878. Bye,
  20879. James Dempsey
  20880. -------------------------------------------------------------------------=
  20881. -----
  20882.  email: jamesd@spirit.com.au             | Neptune, Titan, stars can
  20883. frighten!
  20884.  WWW:   http://www.spirit.com.au/~jamesd |   Astronomy Domine - Pink Floy=
  20885. d
  20886.  
  20887.  
  20888. AmiAWT v0.1
  20889. -----------
  20890.  
  20891.   This is the first beta release of the Amiga AWT. It is based solely on
  20892. Intuition graphics and the GadTools and BOOPSI libraries. It requires at
  20893. least WB 2.0 or higher, but it has only been tested on a WB3.0 platform.
  20894. It also requires ixemul.library version 47.2 or higher.
  20895.  
  20896.   For the latest version of this package, visit the URL
  20897.     http://www.spirit.net.au/~jamesd/AWT-Beta/index.html
  20898.  
  20899.   This version is a partial implementation of the graphics library for
  20900. java - the Abstract Windowing Toolkit. It is compatible with the JDK 1.0.=
  20901. 2
  20902. AWT. Therefore it will only work with Kaffe 0.8.4. A future version will
  20903. support JDK 1.1, and so will work with Kaffe 0.9.x
  20904.  
  20905.   In the development of this library I have drawn heavily on Claude
  20906. Lecommandeur's Simple AWT. He runs a site at http://slhp1.epfl.ch/sawt.ht=
  20907. ml
  20908. I have also picked up a few tricks from the BISS-AWT implementation. It c=
  20909. an
  20910. be found at http://www.biss-net.com/biss-awt.html. I have not, however, h=
  20911. ad
  20912. any exposure to the Sun sources, so it does qualify as a clean room
  20913. implementation.
  20914.  
  20915.   AmiAWT is Copyright (C) 1998  James Dempsey and David McPaul. It has be=
  20916. en
  20917. released under the GNU Library General Public License. See the file
  20918. COPYRIGHT
  20919. for the full details.
  20920.  
  20921. James Dempsey
  20922. 17-Mar-1998
  20923.  
  20924.  
  20925. ---------
  20926. [Send 'help' in message body to majordomo@ninemoons.com for assistance &
  20927. info]
  20928. [Upload programs or diffs submissions to ftp.ninemoons.com:incoming]
  20929.  
  20930. *** End of forwarded message ***
  20931.  
  20932. From owner-amigapl  Wed Mar 18 13:19:58 1998
  20933. Received: from server.fiber.net.pl (server.fiber.net.pl [195.117.208.101]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA00371 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 13:18:09 +0100 (MET)
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  20936.           for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 02:18:02 +0100
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  20939.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 02:16:34 +0100
  20940. From: Alexander Adles <adles53@polbox.com>
  20941. To: amigapl@amiga.com.pl
  20942. Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 01:49:31 +0500
  20943. Message-ID: <yam7381.1563.2527704@polbox.com>
  20944. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  20945. Subject: problem z poczta
  20946. MIME-Version: 1.0
  20947. Content-Type: text/plain
  20948.  
  20949. Przed chwila probowalem wyslac e-mail na adres znajomej w Irlandii
  20950. i otrzymalem komunikat:
  20951.  
  20952. Bad ACPT command response: 553 sorry, that domain isn't in my list of allowed
  20953. rcpthosts (#5.7.1)
  20954.  
  20955. Moze ktos z obeznanych w temacie listowiczow wytlumaczy mi o co tutaj chodzi i
  20956. jak ten problem przeskoczyc.
  20957.  
  20958. Z pozdrowieniami
  20959.  
  20960.   Aleksander Adles
  20961.  
  20962. ----------------------
  20963.   A600/020/28Mhz/68882/10MB Multitech 28800
  20964.   adles53@polbox.com
  20965.   (0-32)282-40-73
  20966.  
  20967. From owner-amigapl  Wed Mar 18 13:20:08 1998
  20968. Received: from server.fiber.net.pl (server.fiber.net.pl [195.117.208.101]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA00390 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 13:18:23 +0100 (MET)
  20969. Received: from info.cyf-kr.edu.pl ([149.156.4.11]) by server.fiber.net.pl
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  20971.           for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 11:34:24 +0100
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  20977.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 11:32:25 +0100 (MET)
  20978. Message-Id: <199803181032.LAA22170@kinga.cyf-kr.edu.pl>
  20979. From: "Wojtek Jaworski" <mxjawors@cyf-kr.edu.pl>
  20980. To: "AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi" <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  20981. Subject: Odp: znikajace przyciski
  20982. Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:38:51 +0100
  20983. MIME-Version: 1.0
  20984. Content-Type: text/plain;
  20985.     charset="us-ascii"
  20986. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  20987. X-Priority: 3
  20988. X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
  20989. X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1008.3
  20990. X-MimeOle: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE Engine V4.71.1008.3
  20991.  
  20992. =20
  20993.  
  20994. -----Oryginalna wiadomo=9C=E6-----
  20995. Od: Piotr Walaszek <tygrysek@pkp.wroc.pl>
  20996. Do: amigapl@amiga.com.pl <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  20997. Data: 17 marca 1998 21:58
  20998. Temat: znikajace przyciski
  20999.  
  21000.  
  21001.  
  21002. >Grrrrrr, :)
  21003. >
  21004. >Zauwazylem cos ciekawego - po zainstalowaniu cgxv41_r70.lha czyli
  21005. >CyberGraphX 41.18 zniknely mi przyciski w listerach magellana...
  21006. >Po zamianie samej tylko bilioteki cgxsystem.library na starsza
  21007. >(cgxv41_r69f.lha), wszystko wrocilo do normy :O
  21008. >Czyzby jakis maly blad w nowszej wersji ?
  21009. >Czy komus tez sie tak stalo ?
  21010.  
  21011. A nie masz ty przypadkiem VisualPrefs. U mnie on byl tego przyczyna. Nie =
  21012. mialem czasu sprawdzic dlaczego ale po usunieciu programu przyciski =
  21013. wrocily na swoje miejsce.
  21014. Pozdrawiam=20
  21015. Wojtek
  21016. ------------------------------
  21017. mailto: mxjawors@cyfronet.krakow.pl
  21018.  
  21019. From owner-amigapl  Wed Mar 18 13:20:25 1998
  21020. Received: from server.fiber.net.pl (server.fiber.net.pl [195.117.208.101]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA00385 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 13:18:18 +0100 (MET)
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  21023.           for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 11:00:32 +0100
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  21026.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 11:00:48 +0100
  21027. Message-ID: <350F9B7C.2ADF@polbox.com>
  21028. Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 11:01:32 +0100
  21029. From: Juha <juha@polbox.com>
  21030. Reply-To: juha@polbox.com
  21031. Organization: AmigaTeam
  21032. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I)
  21033. MIME-Version: 1.0
  21034. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  21035. Subject: Re: Ogonki w WorthWordzie 6.0.....
  21036. References: <yam7380.617.1748878160@smtp.polbox.com>
  21037. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
  21038. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  21039. X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by mx1.polbox.com id LAA10953
  21040.  
  21041. Jaroslaw Waligorski wrote:
  21042. >=20
  21043. > CZE=D4C ALL !!!!
  21044. >=20
  21045. > Mam takie pytanko: Co zrobi=EA =FBeby WordWorth 6.0 widzia=EE polskie
  21046. > ogonki w czcionkach True Type ?=20
  21047.  
  21048. Poprostu czcionki musza miec polskie znaki w takim standardzie jakich
  21049. uzywasz w systemie zapewne jest to AmigaPL. Czcionki pewnie przegrales z
  21050. klona (g95) i w takim ukladzie polskich ogonkow nie zobaczysz.
  21051.  
  21052. P.S. A tak swoja droga to widzualem dziesiatki czcionek ladniejszych od
  21053. tych ktore wymieniles. Sam na swoich Hdeku mam 17 MB polskich czcionek
  21054. wektorowych w AmigaPL.
  21055.  
  21056. P.S. 2 Sorry za glupie rekalmy  w liscie. Polbox Suxx
  21057.  
  21058. Pozdrawiam
  21059.  
  21060.  
  21061. --=20
  21062.            ____
  21063.    +------/ / /-------------------------------+------------------------+
  21064.    |  _ _/ / /      Marek Pialucha "Juha"     | Member of "Amiga Team" |
  21065.    |-\ \ \/ /---------------------------------+------------------------|
  21066.    |  \_\_\/   A1200/030/50 Mhz, 20MB, 1.6 GB |    juha@polbox.com     |
  21067.    +------------------------------------------+------------------------+
  21068.  
  21069. ----- [ REKLAMA / ADVERTISEMENT ] ------------------------
  21070.  
  21071. Zostan Autoryzowanym Partnerem Polbox On-Line Service!
  21072. Szczegoly:  http://www.polbox.pl/98partner.html
  21073.  
  21074. ----------------------------------------------------------
  21075.  
  21076. From owner-amigapl  Wed Mar 18 13:20:40 1998
  21077. Received: from server.fiber.net.pl (server.fiber.net.pl [195.117.208.101]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA00381 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 13:18:15 +0100 (MET)
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  21087.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:15:22 GMT
  21088. From: Artur Muszynski <amst@union.org.pl>
  21089. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  21090. Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 19:28:52 +0100
  21091. Message-ID: <yam7380.2640.121725704@mail.union.org.pl>
  21092. In-Reply-To: <19980317100350.38031@plukwa.pdi.net>
  21093. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  21094. Organization: Union
  21095. Subject: Re: 8 MB CHIP do A-4000
  21096. MIME-Version: 1.0
  21097. X-ISO-CONVERTED: Yam_ISO2 1.05 (02.11.97) (c) Silver Dream !
  21098. X-YAMISO-UPDATE: ftp://wfmh.man.szczecin.pl/pub/yam_iso2/
  21099. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  21100. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  21101.  
  21102. On 17-Mar-98, Artur Pietruk wrote:
  21103. > > Otoz sa dwa takie jumperki - J213 (2/8 MB CHIP) oraz J214 (VBB/8M). C=
  21104. zy
  21105. > wiadomosc ta w polaczeniu z faktem, iz CHIP w A-4000 jest zwyklym SIMMe=
  21106. m
  21107. > moze dac wynik posiadania w A-4000 8 MB CHIPu ?
  21108. > Nie - 8Mb mialy obslugiwac nieistniejace praktycznie uklady AAA.
  21109.  
  21110. W=B1tpi=EA aby chodzi=B3o to o AAA. Prawdopodobnie przewidywano tak=B1 op=
  21111. cj=EA w
  21112. jakie=B6 przysz=B3ej wersji AA, ale jak wida=E6 nic z tych plan=F3w nie w=
  21113. ysz=B3o. Jak
  21114. wiadomo, chipset AAA mia=B3 mie=E6 32/64 bitow=B1 architektur=EA i oddzie=
  21115. lne
  21116. taktowanie dla systemu i grafiki, wi=EAc nie s=B1dz=EA aby te nowe cechy =
  21117. da=B3oby
  21118. si=EA (i mia=B3o to sens) zaadaptowa=E6 do p=B3yty czterotysi=B1czkowej.
  21119.  
  21120. -- =
  21121.  
  21122.  
  21123.    // Artur Muszynski (AMST/UNION) A4000/040/EGS
  21124.  \//  e-mail: amst@union.org.pl
  21125.  
  21126. From owner-amigapl  Wed Mar 18 13:20:48 1998
  21127. Received: from server.fiber.net.pl (server.fiber.net.pl [195.117.208.101]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA00372 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 13:18:10 +0100 (MET)
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  21133. From: Peter Drapich <docent@union.org.pl>
  21134. Reply-To: docent@union.org.pl
  21135. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  21136. Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 18:45:11 +0100
  21137. Message-ID: <yam7379.591.124230448@mail.supermedia.pl>
  21138. In-Reply-To: <199803171213.NAA12403@www.kki.net.pl>
  21139. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  21140. Organization: Union Systems
  21141. Subject: Re: re[2]: mUSASHI and AmigaOS
  21142. MIME-Version: 1.0
  21143. Content-Type: text/plain
  21144.  
  21145. On 17-Mar-98, Tomasz Kaczanowski wrote:
  21146. >Jak chcesz napisze ci prosty program, z malym bledem, (w ansiC) na amidze
  21147. >spowoduje on jedynie reset, pod dosem bedzie reset, a pod Windowsem95
  21148.  
  21149. Prosze bardzo - z checia przetestuje...
  21150.  
  21151. >(przynajmniej u qmpla) spowodowal on zwis calego systemu, a po resecie
  21152. >(dzialal tylko ten z obudowy...) reinstalacja windowsow mu zostala, a jesli
  21153. chodzi
  21154. >o wisuala, to jest na strasznie ograniczony, ma identyczne ograniczenia jak
  21155. >Turbo Pascal (nie wiem, czym sie tak niektorzy podniecaja), ze o jego 
  21156.  
  21157. Np. jakie ograniczenia ? Szczegolnie interesuja mnie te podobne do TP ...
  21158.  
  21159. Docent
  21160. --
  21161. A bad random number generator:  1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 4.33e+67, 1, 1, 1
  21162.  
  21163. From owner-amigapl  Wed Mar 18 13:20:56 1998
  21164. Received: from server.fiber.net.pl (server.fiber.net.pl [195.117.208.101]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA00400 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 13:18:31 +0100 (MET)
  21165. Received: from ernie.icslab.agh.edu.pl ([149.156.98.14])
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  21168.           Wed, 18 Mar 1998 12:28:49 +0100
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  21171. Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 12:19:17 +0100 (MET)
  21172. From: Kamil Iskra <kiskra@ernie.icslab.agh.edu.pl>
  21173. X-Sender: kiskra@ernie
  21174. Reply-To: Kamil Iskra <iskra@student.uci.agh.edu.pl>
  21175. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  21176. Subject: Re: Odp: mUSASHI and AmigaOS
  21177. In-Reply-To: <199803171550.QAA14911@arka.mtl.pl>
  21178. Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.95.980318121642.11842C-100000@ernie>
  21179. MIME-Version: 1.0
  21180. Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-2
  21181. Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE
  21182.  
  21183. On Tue, 17 Mar 1998, Adam Zaparcinski wrote:
  21184.  
  21185. > Po drugie i najwa=BFniejsze: ochrona pami=EAci potrzebna jest wtedy, gdy =
  21186. jest
  21187. > przed czym t=B9 pami=EA=E6 chroni=E6. CZy nie lepiej by by=B3o pisa=E6 do=
  21188. bre programy,
  21189. > kt=F3re nie b=EAd=B9 grzeba=E6 bez potrzeby tam gdzie nie trzeba? Ochrona=
  21190.  pami=EAci jest
  21191. > efektem chorego sposobu my=9Clenia naszej chorej cywilizacji sk=B3adaj=B9=
  21192. cej si=EA w
  21193. > wi=EAkszo=9Cci z chorych jednostek wpajaj=B9cych innym swoj=B9 chorob=EA.=
  21194.  Dzi=EAki temu
  21195. > mamy chorobliwy brak zaufania do wszystkich proces=F3w i konieczno=9C=E6 =
  21196. ochrony
  21197. > przed ich wybrykami.
  21198. [snip]
  21199. > Czy tak trudno jest pisa=E6 programy, kt=F3re nie nadwyr=EA=BFaj=B9 tego =
  21200. zaufania?
  21201.  
  21202. Tak, bardzo trudno. Przekonasz sie, jak napiszesz swoj pierwszy
  21203. nietrywialny [1] program.
  21204.  
  21205. [1] nietrywialny: wiecej niz 5 plikow ze zrodlami, wiecej niz 5000 linii
  21206. kodu.
  21207.  
  21208. / Kamil Iskra    AmigaOS  Linux/i386  Linux/m68k               \
  21209. | GeekGadgets GCC maintainer   UNIX system administrator       |
  21210. | iskra@student.uci.agh.edu.pl  kiskra@ernie.icslab.agh.edu.pl |
  21211. \ kamil@dwd.interkom.pl   http://student.uci.agh.edu.pl/~iskra /
  21212.  
  21213. From owner-amigapl  Wed Mar 18 13:21:04 1998
  21214. Received: from server.fiber.net.pl (server.fiber.net.pl [195.117.208.101]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA00399 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 13:18:30 +0100 (MET)
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  21221. Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 12:16:31 +0100 (MET)
  21222. From: Kamil Iskra <kiskra@ernie.icslab.agh.edu.pl>
  21223. X-Sender: kiskra@ernie
  21224. Reply-To: Kamil Iskra <iskra@student.uci.agh.edu.pl>
  21225. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  21226. Subject: Re: AmigaOS (bylo zupelnie co innego)
  21227. In-Reply-To: <199803171206.NAA10840@www.kki.net.pl>
  21228. Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.95.980318121425.11842B-100000@ernie>
  21229. MIME-Version: 1.0
  21230. Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
  21231.  
  21232. On Tue, 17 Mar 1998, Tomasz Kaczanowski wrote:
  21233.  
  21234. > >A linux, jakby nie patrzec, moze chodzic
  21235. > >miesiacami non stop!!! I uruchomienie niepewnego programu prowadzi co
  21236. > >najwyzej do przerwania i zrzucenia go z pamieci na dysk (core).
  21237. > Unix z allozenia ma buforowanie pamieci na dysku - zreszta do wszystkich
  21238. > urzadzen (rowniez do pamieci) odwolujesz sie jak do pliku ...
  21239.  
  21240. Twoj komentarz niewiele ma wspolnego z tym, o czym pisal poprzednik.
  21241.  
  21242. > Ochrona
  21243. > pamieci,
  21244. > tak, ale opcjonalnie - duzo bardziej przydalby sie driver defragmentujacy pamiec
  21245.  
  21246. Ciekawy jestem, jak sobie wyobrazasz dzialanie takiego "drivera" bez
  21247. zaawansowanej obslugi pamieci, a wiec i bez ochrony pamieci.
  21248.  
  21249. / Kamil Iskra    AmigaOS  Linux/i386  Linux/m68k               \
  21250. | GeekGadgets GCC maintainer   UNIX system administrator       |
  21251. | iskra@student.uci.agh.edu.pl  kiskra@ernie.icslab.agh.edu.pl |
  21252. \ kamil@dwd.interkom.pl   http://student.uci.agh.edu.pl/~iskra /
  21253.  
  21254. From owner-amigapl  Wed Mar 18 13:21:11 1998
  21255. Received: from server.fiber.net.pl (server.fiber.net.pl [195.117.208.101]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA00398 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 13:18:29 +0100 (MET)
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  21258.           for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 12:15:40 +0100
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  21261.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 12:14:26 +0100
  21262. Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980318121221.008fbaa0@kki.net.pl>
  21263. X-Sender: lamex@kki.net.pl
  21264. X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32)
  21265. Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 12:12:21 +0000
  21266. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  21267. From: Waldemar Lamek <lamex@kki.net.pl>
  21268. Subject: Re: znikajace przyciski
  21269. In-Reply-To: <648.380T737T9571281@pkp.wroc.pl>
  21270. Mime-Version: 1.0
  21271. Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
  21272. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  21273.  
  21274. Czesc Piotrze!!!
  21275.  
  21276. >Zauwazylem cos ciekawego - po zainstalowaniu cgxv41_r70.lha czyli
  21277. >CyberGraphX 41.18 zniknely mi przyciski w listerach magellana...
  21278. >Czy komus tez sie tak stalo ?
  21279.  
  21280. Kupe lat :-))).
  21281. Ja mam zainstalowane i nie mam takich problemow, ale dokladnie w tej chwili
  21282. nie moge powiedziec, gdyz przekladam sie do E/Box'a. Jak wszystko uruchomie=
  21283.  to
  21284. sprawdze to dokladniej i napisz=EA.
  21285.  
  21286. PS. Nie znasz kogos kto by chcial kupic Infinitiv?
  21287.  
  21288.     .oO LAMEX SOFTWARE LTD. Oo.
  21289.      E/BoX 1240/40  18MB CV64/3D=20
  21290.      e-mail:  lamex@kki.net.pl
  21291.  
  21292.  
  21293.  
  21294. .oO LAMEX SOFTWARE LTD. Oo.
  21295.  E/BoX 1240/40CV64/3D 18MB=20
  21296.  e-mail:  lamex@kki.net.pl
  21297. From owner-amigapl  Wed Mar 18 13:21:18 1998
  21298. Received: from server.fiber.net.pl (server.fiber.net.pl [195.117.208.101]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA00397 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 13:18:28 +0100 (MET)
  21299. Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 13:18:28 +0100 (MET)
  21300. Message-Id: <199803181218.NAA00397@amiga.com.pl>
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  21309. Mime-Version: 1.0
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  21311. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  21312. From: Tomasz Kaczanowski <kaczus@kki.net.pl>
  21313. Subject: Re: re[2]: MUSASHI and AmigaOS
  21314.  
  21315. At 15:01 98-03-17 +0100, you wrote:
  21316.  
  21317. >    Bardzo prosze o listing, oczywiscie
  21318. >w celach edukacyjnych ;)
  21319.  
  21320. Nie ma sensu, aby caly program prezentowac - to byl prog na laborki i
  21321. zajalby duzo miejsca, ale chodzi przeciez o sama funkcje wieszajaca:
  21322.  
  21323. Blad polegal na zwalnianiu pamieci statycznej w sposob dynamiczny:
  21324.  
  21325. char a[]="Nasza tablica:))"
  21326. char *wskaznik;
  21327.  
  21328. wskaznik=a;
  21329. delete wskaznik;
  21330.  
  21331. - oto sprawca wszystkiego - kompilator to skompiluje,
  21332. ale niestety system sie powiesi ... - sprawca wszystkiego bylo zle
  21333. przekazywanie argumentow z informacja, o tym czy pamiec ma byc zwalniana,
  21334. czy nie
  21335.  
  21336. Kaczus of BlaBla
  21337.  
  21338. Moje nowe motto to: "gRZYBIARZE do lasu, a grzyby na marynaty!!!"
  21339.  
  21340. From owner-amigapl  Wed Mar 18 13:21:26 1998
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  21347.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 12:03:46 +0100
  21348. Message-ID: <350FAA31.50F7@polbox.com>
  21349. Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 12:04:17 +0100
  21350. From: Juha <juha@polbox.com>
  21351. Reply-To: juha@polbox.com
  21352. Organization: AmigaTeam
  21353. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I)
  21354. MIME-Version: 1.0
  21355. To: amigapl@amiga.com.pl
  21356. Subject: Opus 5.6 i Monitor
  21357. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
  21358. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
  21359.  
  21360. Czes wszystkim pisze na liste bo mam kilka pytan i problemow :)
  21361.  
  21362. 1. Male pytanko dotyczace monitorow.
  21363. Monitor jaki posiadam do Ami jest nie najwyzszych lotow :). Wyswietla
  21364. tryby PAL i odziwo Euro36 bez zadnych dodatkowych zabiegow. Kiedy
  21365. otwieram jakis program w wysokiej rozdzielczosci zawsze korzystam z
  21366. Euro36 zamiast zwyklego Palu bo wtedy interlace jest malo widoczny i da
  21367. sie spoko pracowac. :) Problem tkwi w tym ze Euro 36 umozliwia w Hires
  21368. Laced wyswietlanie ekranu tylko w 640x400 a to jest da mnie troche za
  21369. malo. Co prawda w za pomoca Prefs/Overscan da sie rozszerzyc obraz w
  21370. poziomie np do 700 ale dla mnie glownie chodzi o rozszerzenie obrazu w
  21371. pionie np do 512 lub wieciej.  Jezleli przy wybieraniu rizdzielczosci
  21372. ekranu wpisze rozmiar pionowy np na 512 to owszem jest on takiego
  21373. rozmiaru ale  widzialny obszar jest oczywiscie wielkosci 400 pikseli w
  21374. pionie i zeby zobaczuc co jest na dole ekranu musze go suwac mych.
  21375.  
  21376. Pytanko: Czy ktos moze mi podpowiedziec jak mozna zwiekszyc wielkosc
  21377. Overscanu w pionie w trybie Uoru36.
  21378. Na aminecie jest taki program MonSpecsMui do ustawiania parametrow
  21379. sterownikow (cos w rodzaju MonEda) ktory ma dodatkowo jakis programik do
  21380. overscanow moze za pomoca niego ? ( dla mnie niestety sie nie udalo)
  21381. Prosze o pomoc !!!!
  21382.  
  21383. 2. Problemy Z Opusem 5.65
  21384.  
  21385. a) Opus ma "tajemnicza" kombinacje klawiszy CTRL+LSHIFT+LALT za pomoca
  21386. ktorej przechodzi sie do jego ekranu czy wie ktos gdzie moge zmienic ta
  21387. kombinacje ? Potrzebne to jest poniewaz jesli mam uruchomionego opusa i
  21388. uzywam ShapeShiftera to tego drugiego nie moge go zrestetowac
  21389. (kombinacja CTRL+LSHIFT+LALT+ESC) opus wylapuje te kombinacje i
  21390. przechodzi do swojego ekranu.
  21391.  
  21392. b) Na codzien uzywam Opusa w wersji 5.65. Wiem ze juz od dawna sa patche
  21393. na wersje 5.66 i 5.661. Tylko jest jeden problem po zainstalowaniu
  21394. patcha na do wersji 5.66  a nastepnie 5.661, zrestartowaniu komputera,
  21395. wpisaniu kodu itd. opus uruchamia sie poprawnie. Po probie otwarzenia
  21396. dowolnego listera opusa natychmiast nastepuje zwis. !!!! Tak samo sie
  21397. dzieje po zainstalowaniu tylko pierwszego patcha z dwoch wymienionych
  21398. wyzej. Jezeli mam w MCP wlaczona opcje NoGuru przechwytuje zwis i
  21399. twierdzi ze zawiecil sie Task :dopus_lister
  21400. po klikaniu na przycisk w requesterze Jump RTS jakies 2,3 razy lister
  21401. sie otwieram, ale po kliknieciu znow na jakis katalog MCP znow twierdzi
  21402. ze zawiesil sie znow dopus_lister i znow Jump RTS 2,3 razy itd, itd.
  21403. Probowalem tego opusa uruchamiac bez programow w WBstartup i
  21404. strtup-sequnce i wraz jest zwis. Od znajomego ktory uzywa opusa 5.661 na
  21405. codzien skopiowalem go juz zainstalowanego (zaznaczam tylko po to aby
  21406. sprawdzic czy zadziala) wraz ze wszystkimi bibliotekami z katalogu libs
  21407. ktorych wymaga (moze mialem za stare wersje) i po uruchomieniu nastepuje
  21408. identyczny problem.
  21409.  
  21410. Czy ktos wie co moze byc tego przyczyna ? Prosze o kontakt. !!!
  21411.  
  21412. P.S. Moze to wina Blizzarda II ktory posiadam ale zainstalowany Opus u
  21413. mnie przyniosiony do kumpla z Apollo 40/40 wieszal sie w identyczny
  21414. sposob jak u mnie.
  21415.  
  21416. Pozdrawiam
  21417.  
  21418. -- 
  21419.            ____
  21420.    +------/ / /-------------------------------+------------------------+
  21421.    |  _ _/ / /      Marek Pialucha "Juha"     | Member of "Amiga Team" |
  21422.    |-\ \ \/ /---------------------------------+------------------------|
  21423.    |  \_\_\/   A1200/030/50 Mhz, 20MB, 1.6 GB |    juha@polbox.com     |
  21424.    +------------------------------------------+------------------------+
  21425.  
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  21427.  
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  21430.  
  21431. ----------------------------------------------------------
  21432.  
  21433. From owner-amigapl  Wed Mar 18 13:21:33 1998
  21434. Received: from server.fiber.net.pl (server.fiber.net.pl [195.117.208.101]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA00394 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 13:18:26 +0100 (MET)
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  21444.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 12:01:35 GMT
  21445. From: Artur Muszynski <amst@union.org.pl>
  21446. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  21447. Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:45:44 +0100
  21448. Message-ID: <yam7381.2234.122153344@mail.union.org.pl>
  21449. In-Reply-To: <19980317193828.25305@plukwa.pdi.net>
  21450. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  21451. Organization: Union
  21452. Subject: Re: MIDI
  21453. MIME-Version: 1.0
  21454. X-ISO-CONVERTED: Yam_ISO2 1.05 (02.11.97) (c) Silver Dream !
  21455. X-YAMISO-UPDATE: ftp://wfmh.man.szczecin.pl/pub/yam_iso2/
  21456. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  21457. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  21458.  
  21459. On 17-Mar-98, Artur Pietruk wrote:
  21460. > Na aminecie gdzies w hard/ jest instrukcja jak podlaczyc do amigi
  21461. > zwykly modul wavetable od kart muzycznych do peceta pod zlacze szeregow=
  21462. e.
  21463. > Potem odpalasz jakiegos playera midi i jazda :-) Ja tego nie sprawdzale=
  21464. m
  21465. > gdyz nie jestem muzykiem komputerowym i za bardzo mnie to nie
  21466. > interesowalo, ale o ile dobrze pamietam Artur Muszynski sprawdzil jak
  21467. > dziala.
  21468.  
  21469. Dzia=B3a i instaluje si=EA to bardzo prosto. W zale=BFno=B6ci od karty dz=
  21470. ia=B3a dobrze
  21471. albo BARDZO dobrze i nie obci=B1=BFa CPU. Najta=F1szy modu=B3 wt (noname =
  21472. :-)
  21473. kosztuje oko=B3o 70z=B3, w miar=EA porz=B1dny Korg oko=B3o 300z=B3, a chy=
  21474. ba najlepsze,
  21475. ale najdro=BFsze s=B1 modu=B3y Yamahy (ale wtedy soundblasterowe AVE wysi=
  21476. ada).
  21477.  
  21478. -- =
  21479.  
  21480.  
  21481.    // Artur Muszynski (AMST/UNION) A4000/040/EGS
  21482.  \//  e-mail: amst@union.org.pl
  21483.  
  21484. From owner-amigapl  Wed Mar 18 13:49:56 1998
  21485. Received: from hermes.telbank.pl (vena.telbank.PL [195.136.250.210]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA00732 for <amigapl@wfmh.org.pl>; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 13:47:31 +0100 (MET)
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  21489.           for <amigapl@wfmh.org.pl>; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 13:50:33 +0100
  21490. From: "Marek Szymanski" <szymanski@bptnet.pl>
  21491. Reply-To: tagor@wfmh.org.pl
  21492. To: Lista uzytkownikow Amisi <amigapl@wfmh.org.pl>
  21493. Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 13:46:39 +0100
  21494. Message-ID: <yam7381.1985.2014770680@vena.telbank.pl>
  21495. X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview3 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
  21496. Organization: WFMH
  21497. MIME-Version: 1.0
  21498. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  21499. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  21500.  
  21501. Cze=B6=E6.
  21502.  
  21503. Problem nast=EApuj=B1cy:
  21504. Mam w slocie ZII kart=EA graficzn=B1=A0Picasso. W Amisi kick 3.0.
  21505. Gdy `softkickuj=EA` rom 3.1 po resecie karta znika. Dopiero r=EAczny rese=
  21506. t
  21507. powoduje =BFe karta jest znowu widoczna. Czy kto=B6 si=EA z tym spotka=B3=
  21508. ? Czy
  21509. to mo=BFna rozwi=B1za=E6?
  21510.  
  21511. PS
  21512. Oczywi=B6cie zakup kicka3.1 zostawiam jako ostateczno=B6=E6. =
  21513.  
  21514. -- =
  21515.  
  21516. Marek SZYMANSKI  Team *AMIGA*
  21517.     mailto:tagor@wfmh.org.pl=
  21518.  
  21519. From owner-amigapl  Wed Mar 18 14:19:56 1998
  21520. Received: from linux2.pzuzycie.com.pl (linux2.pzuzycie.com.pl [195.205.22.5]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA00861 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 14:02:32 +0100 (MET)
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  21523.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 14:05:17 +0100
  21524. Message-ID: <350FC61D.98E89B8B@linux2.pzuzycie.com.pl>
  21525. Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 14:03:25 +0100
  21526. From: "Jerzy Ma³ecki" <jurgen@linux2.pzuzycie.com.pl>
  21527. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (Win95; I)
  21528. MIME-Version: 1.0
  21529. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  21530. Subject: Re: Katalog który i jest, i go nie ma...
  21531. X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
  21532. References: <yam7380.1269.1748878160@smtp.polbox.com>
  21533. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  21534. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
  21535.  
  21536. spruboj prg do naprawy dyskow
  21537. a reorg ma opcje pracy na niby
  21538.  
  21539. -- 
  21540.  
  21541. siemka
  21542.  
  21543. * Ak5/3.1/3mb/80+540scsi/cd 2x/1084/USRS28800
  21544. * amiga4ever@linux2.pzuzycie.com.pl
  21545. From owner-amigapl  Wed Mar 18 14:20:06 1998
  21546. Received: from linux2.pzuzycie.com.pl (linux2.pzuzycie.com.pl [195.205.22.5]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA00779 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 13:51:41 +0100 (MET)
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  21549.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 13:54:34 +0100
  21550. Message-ID: <350FC3B5.D0F282BF@linux2.pzuzycie.com.pl>
  21551. Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 13:53:09 +0100
  21552. From: "Jerzy Ma³ecki" <jurgen@linux2.pzuzycie.com.pl>
  21553. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (Win95; I)
  21554. MIME-Version: 1.0
  21555. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  21556. Subject: Re: kabel scsii
  21557. X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
  21558. References: <yam7380.1538.506764440@wfmh.org.pl>
  21559. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  21560. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
  21561.  
  21562. Piotr Legiecki wrote:
  21563. > 25 pinow, z drugiej 50 (od cd-romu). Zrobil bym sam, ale jak przejsc z 50
  21564.  
  21565. czy chodzi ci o kabel z jednej stony zakonczony wtykiem meskim 25 pin a
  21566. z drugiej szeregowym 2x25
  21567. jak tak i czujesz sie na silach to moge ci opisac jak go zrobic
  21568.  
  21569. -- 
  21570.  
  21571. siemka
  21572.  
  21573. * Ak5/3.1/3mb/80+540scsi/cd 2x/1084/USRS28800
  21574. * amiga4ever@linux2.pzuzycie.com.pl
  21575. From owner-amigapl  Wed Mar 18 14:20:15 1998
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  21579.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 14:01:54 +0100
  21580. Message-ID: <350FC558.AFDE631E@linux2.pzuzycie.com.pl>
  21581. Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 14:00:08 +0100
  21582. From: "Jerzy Ma³ecki" <jurgen@linux2.pzuzycie.com.pl>
  21583. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (Win95; I)
  21584. MIME-Version: 1.0
  21585. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  21586. Subject: Re: Pinball BD
  21587. X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
  21588. References: <199803172112.WAA26344@piast.pertus.com.pl>
  21589. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  21590. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
  21591.  
  21592. Arkadiusz Winiarek wrote:
  21593. > - mo¿e komu¶ uda³o siê odpaliæ Pinball Brain Damage na 060, a je¶li tak to jak?
  21594.  
  21595. jezeli pojdzie na jak w sigu to sendnij jesli mozesz
  21596.  
  21597. -- 
  21598.  
  21599. siemka
  21600.  
  21601. * Ak5/3.1/3mb/80+540scsi/cd 2x/1084/USRS28800
  21602. * amiga4ever@linux2.pzuzycie.com.pl
  21603. From owner-amigapl  Wed Mar 18 15:49:56 1998
  21604. Received: from silter.silesia.top.pl (silter.silesia.top.pl [195.117.67.3]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA01400 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 15:34:45 +0100 (MET)
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  21607.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 15:34:32 +0100 (CET)
  21608. Date: 17 Mar 98 21:15:32 +0100
  21609. From: "Grzegorz Juraszek" <yoyo@silesia.top.pl>
  21610. Subject: Re: Odp: mUSASHI and AmigaOS
  21611. To: "AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi" <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  21612. In-Reply-To: <199803171550.QAA14911@arka.mtl.pl>
  21613. Message-ID: <456.380T1646T12752446@silesia.top.pl>
  21614. MIME-Version: 1.0
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  21617. X-Mailer: THOR 2.5 (Amiga;TCP/IP) *UNREGISTERED*
  21618.  
  21619. Hello Adam Zaparcinski, on 17-Mar-98    09:33:11 you wrote:
  21620.  
  21621. >sumie nie by³oby to du¿¹ przeszkod¹.
  21622.  
  21623. Od dluzszego czasu wysylasz polskie literki w jakims egzotycznym formacie.
  21624. Zrob cos z tym.
  21625.  
  21626. --
  21627.    Grzegorz Juraszek * Yoyo^Twilight * Amiga user * AIRI & ATO PL member
  21628.        mailto:yoyo@silesia.top.pl * http://www.silesia.top.pl/~yoyo
  21629. --
  21630.              "Let the truth be known though the heavens fall"
  21631.                     Agent Mulder * The X-Files * Redux
  21632.  
  21633. From owner-amigapl  Wed Mar 18 15:50:12 1998
  21634. Received: from silter.silesia.top.pl (silter.silesia.top.pl [195.117.67.3]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA01399 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 15:34:45 +0100 (MET)
  21635. Received: from ppp-wct34.katowice.tpnet.pl (yoyo@ppp-wct34.katowice.tpnet.pl [194.204.181.34])
  21636.     by silter.silesia.top.pl (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA05970
  21637.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 15:34:30 +0100 (CET)
  21638. Date: 17 Mar 98 21:14:32 +0100
  21639. From: "Grzegorz Juraszek" <yoyo@silesia.top.pl>
  21640. Subject: Re: MIDI
  21641. To: "AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi" <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  21642. In-Reply-To: <yam7380.2696.2020787520@kki.net.pl>
  21643. Message-ID: <832.380T1607T12741863@silesia.top.pl>
  21644. MIME-Version: 1.0
  21645. Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  21646. Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
  21647. X-Mailer: THOR 2.5 (Amiga;TCP/IP) *UNREGISTERED*
  21648.  
  21649. Hello Lolo, on 17-Mar-98    14:36:53 you wrote:
  21650. >Hello,
  21651.  
  21652. >Mam pytanie, jak tanim kosztem sluchaæ utworow midi w dobrej jako¶ci.
  21653. >Zaznaczam ¿e karta za 10 milionow + tower i sloty zorro odpada.
  21654. >Chodzi mi o cos *zdecydowanie tañszego.*
  21655.  
  21656. Do GMPlaya przydaje sie niestety 040. Jakosc? No coz, zalezy tez od
  21657. posiadanych sampli.
  21658.  
  21659. Ja mam pytanie w zblizonej kwestii: na Aminecie dostepny jest opis
  21660. podlaczenia pecetowego wavetable do takich celow. Autor hacka podaje jeden
  21661. konkretny model karty Yamaha. Czy ktos probowal zrobic to z inna, latwiej
  21662. osiagalna i tansza karta?
  21663.  
  21664. --
  21665.    Grzegorz Juraszek * Yoyo^Twilight * Amiga user * AIRI & ATO PL member
  21666.        mailto:yoyo@silesia.top.pl * http://www.silesia.top.pl/~yoyo
  21667. --
  21668.              "Let the truth be known though the heavens fall"
  21669.                     Agent Mulder * The X-Files * Redux
  21670.  
  21671. From owner-amigapl  Wed Mar 18 16:20:11 1998
  21672. Received: from student.uci.agh.edu.pl (ramix@student.uci.agh.edu.pl [149.156.98.60]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA01621 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 16:09:44 +0100 (MET)
  21673. Received: from localhost (ramix@localhost) by student.uci.agh.edu.pl (8.8.6/8.8.5/ts-tmpl.970124) with SMTP
  21674.        id QAA20170 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 16:09:50 +0100 (MET)
  21675. Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 16:09:49 +0100 (MET)
  21676. From: Grzegorz Junka <ramix@student.uci.agh.edu.pl>
  21677. X-Sender: ramix@student
  21678. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  21679. Subject: Re: Problemy z firmami.
  21680. In-Reply-To: <yam7380.191.479736@kki.net.pl>
  21681. Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.95.980318160518.17728C-100000@student>
  21682. MIME-Version: 1.0
  21683. Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
  21684.  
  21685. > czy jest sposob na odzyzkanie gotowki.
  21686. > Moja karta byla dwukrotnie w serwisie.
  21687. > W tej chwili jest juz drugi miesiac
  21688. > przetrzymywana w tymze serwisie.Maja
  21689. > Czy nie ma na nich sily ?!!!.
  21690.  
  21691. Jesli karta byla na gwarancji, pisze na niej, ile dni mogo przetrzymywac.
  21692. Pozniej MUSZA zwrocic pieniadze. Jesli nie chca, to do federacji
  21693. konsumentow i gdzie tam jeszcze mozna. Problem w tym, ze moze sie to chyba
  21694. skonczyc sadem, a to trwa. Jesli nie byla na gwarancji, to na umowie
  21695. naprawy (oddania do serwisu) lub gdzies w firmie powinno pisac, ile
  21696. maksymalnie moga taka karte trzymac. Idz i strasz ich!! (Uuuu.) Jesli to
  21697. nie pomoze, to dalsza procedura tak jak przy gwarancji. Wiecej i tak nikt
  21698. Ci nie pomoze. Trzeba sie po prostu udac wyzej! I naskarzyc.
  21699.  
  21700. --
  21701. ,x80Y^"    Member of Amiga Promotion Group and fanatic AMIGA user
  21702. $0+'    Grzegorz Junka "Bastian"
  21703. 08    ramix@student.uci.agh.edu.pl    bastian@apg.plukwa.pdi.net
  21704. 0'
  21705. 9    A1200Inf 040/40Bliz 32Mb 1.6Gb 12x 1942S CN40BC
  21706.  
  21707. From owner-amigapl  Wed Mar 18 16:20:18 1998
  21708. Received: from student.uci.agh.edu.pl (ramix@student.uci.agh.edu.pl [149.156.98.60]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA01642 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 16:13:59 +0100 (MET)
  21709. Received: from localhost (ramix@localhost) by student.uci.agh.edu.pl (8.8.6/8.8.5/ts-tmpl.970124) with SMTP
  21710.        id QAA20688 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 16:14:26 +0100 (MET)
  21711. Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 16:14:26 +0100 (MET)
  21712. From: Grzegorz Junka <ramix@student.uci.agh.edu.pl>
  21713. X-Sender: ramix@student
  21714. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  21715. Subject: Re: AmigaOS (bylo zupelnie co innego)
  21716. In-Reply-To: <199803171206.NAA10840@www.kki.net.pl>
  21717. Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.95.980318161026.17728D-100000@student>
  21718. MIME-Version: 1.0
  21719. Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
  21720.  
  21721. > >Ciekawe. A dlaczego Unix jest uwazany za najbezpieczniejszy i
  21722. > >najstabilniejszy system operacyjny?
  21723. > 
  21724. > Jenoczesnie najwolniejszy (windowsy pomijam, bo to nie system)
  21725.  
  21726. ???????
  21727. A moze bys chcial ochrone pamieci bez MMU?
  21728.  
  21729. > >wywalic program z pamieci pod AmigaOS (wiem, ze mozna zafrezowac, ale to
  21730. > >po kilku operacjach powoduje braki pamieci i koniecznosc szybszego lub
  21731. > >pozniejszego resetu).
  21732. > 
  21733. > Wina defragmentacji pamieci 
  21734.  
  21735. No wlasnie! Dziekuje :)
  21736.  
  21737. > Unix z allozenia ma buforowanie pamieci na dysku - zreszta do wszystkich
  21738. > urzadzen (rowniez do pamieci) odwolujesz sie jak do pliku ...
  21739.  
  21740. > >wystarczy skompilowac program napisany troszke nie tak, i juz mamy guru i
  21741. > >reset.
  21742. > 
  21743. > Coz, jak jest cos nie tak ...
  21744. > 
  21745. > > AmigaOS, owszem, ma sporo zalet, ale tak naprawde docenisz je
  21746. > 
  21747. > Ochrona pamieci tak naprawde potrzebna jest w systemach wielodostepnych,
  21748. > tak, ale opcjonalnie - duzo bardziej przydalby sie driver defragmentujacy pamiec
  21749. > 
  21750. > Kaczus of BlaBla
  21751.  
  21752. Facet, bo nie wiem. Jestes za czy przeciwko temu co napisalem? :>
  21753.  
  21754. --
  21755. ,x80Y^"    Member of Amiga Promotion Group and fanatic AMIGA user
  21756. $0+'    Grzegorz Junka "Bastian"
  21757. 08    ramix@student.uci.agh.edu.pl    bastian@apg.plukwa.pdi.net
  21758. 0'
  21759. 9    A1200Inf 040/40Bliz 32Mb 1.6Gb 12x 1942S CN40BC
  21760.  
  21761. From owner-amigapl  Wed Mar 18 16:49:56 1998
  21762. Received: from onet.pl (root@onet.pl [194.204.188.6]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA01726 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 16:26:16 +0100 (MET)
  21763. Received: from mk (ppp-wct541.katowice.tpnet.pl [195.205.241.241])
  21764.     by onet.pl (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA27906
  21765.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 16:24:26 +0100 (MET)
  21766. From: "Wojciech Kocjan" <kocjan@ka.onet.pl>
  21767. To: "AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi" <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  21768. Subject: Pilne: Jak zastapic BeginIO()
  21769. Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 16:17:28 +0100
  21770. Message-ID: <01bd5280$f6c46700$fdfefe01@mk>
  21771. MIME-Version: 1.0
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  21775. X-Priority: 3
  21776. X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
  21777. X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3
  21778. X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3
  21779.  
  21780. Czesc!
  21781.  
  21782. Mam pilne pytanie do developerów (prosze bez dygresji w stylu: a po co
  21783. zastepowac... - jest mi to niezbedne). Mój program w SAS/C korzysta z
  21784. funkcji BeginIO() z amiga.lib, ale niestety gdy chce zrobic z niego
  21785. biblioteke, wyklada sie dokladnie na tym (z i bez wstawianiem lib:amiga.lib
  21786. w slinku).
  21787.  
  21788. Próbowalem zamiast tego wstawic SendIO(), ale bez skutku. Co nalezy wstawic?
  21789. Moze bezposrednie odwolanie do device'a? Watpie!
  21790.  
  21791. Kontakt na priva badz na liste. To na prawde pilne!
  21792.  
  21793. Wojciech Kocjan
  21794. mailto:kocjan@ka.onet.pl        http://priv.onet.pl/ka/wkocjan/
  21795. GSM: +48 601 473237             SMS mailto:48601473237@text.plusgsm.pl
  21796. AUTHOR OF AStartV4, ANETGUI, NEWFMT.LIBRARY and other things
  21797. ---
  21798. "Software suppliers are trying to make their software packages more
  21799. 'user-friendly'.... Their best approach, so far, has been to take
  21800. all the old brochures, and stamp the words, 'user-friendly' on the cover."
  21801. -- Bill Gates, Pres., Microsoft, Inc.
  21802.  
  21803. From owner-amigapl  Wed Mar 18 17:19:56 1998
  21804. Received: from iftia6.univ.gda.pl (iftia6.univ.gda.pl [153.19.6.6]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA01882 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 17:09:52 +0100 (MET)
  21805. Received: from ppp172a.gdansk.tpnet.pl by iftia6.univ.gda.pl with SMTP
  21806.     (1.38.193.4/16.2) id AA05670; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 17:21:16 +0100
  21807. From: Marcin Ostrowski <amizaur@box43.gnet.pl>
  21808. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  21809. Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 11:00:44 +0100
  21810. Message-Id: <yam7381.2244.3940872@iftia6.univ.gda.pl>
  21811. In-Reply-To: <yam7380.1269.1748878160@smtp.polbox.com>
  21812. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  21813. Subject: Re: Katalog =?iso-8859-2?Q?kt=F3ry?= i jest, i go nie ma...
  21814. Mime-Version: 1.0
  21815. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  21816. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  21817.  
  21818. Dnia 17-Mar-98, Jaroslaw Waligorski napisa=EE:
  21819. >CZE=D4C !!!
  21820.  
  21821. >W zwi=E2zku z dzia=EEaniem pewnego programu pad=EEa mi na twardym
  21822. walidacja.
  21823. >Kiedy ju=FB si=EB naprawi=EEa, okaza=EEo si=EB =FBe jeden z katalog=F3w =
  21824. jest =
  21825.  
  21826. >niemo=FBliwy do usuni=EBcia. Tzn. ikona jest widziana przez system, lecz=
  21827.  
  21828. >pr=F3ba skasowania go np. spod FileMastera ko=EFczy si=EB wy=F4wietlenie=
  21829. m =
  21830.  
  21831. >komunikatu =FBe niby go usun=E2=EE lecz dalej go wy=F4wietla.Z kolei pr=F3=
  21832. ba
  21833. >otwarcia ko=EFczy si=EB komunitatem "Lock() Failed !!! .... obiekt nie
  21834. >znaleziony".Katalogu narz=EBdnego te=FB si=EB przez to nie da usuna=EA.
  21835. >Przypuszczam =FBe kiedy naprawia=EE walidacje, co=F4 mu si=EB pokopa=EEo=
  21836. =2E..
  21837.  
  21838. Uzyj jakiegos programu do naprawy struktury dyskow, np. QBTools,
  21839. ABTools czy DiskSalv.
  21840.  
  21841. -- =
  21842.  
  21843.  
  21844.                              Marcin Ostrowski
  21845.                        A1200/030/882/28/10Mb/170Mb
  21846.                           High-Radiation C1085S
  21847.                                modem 28800
  21848.  
  21849.  
  21850.                                     mailto:amizaur@box43.gnet.pl
  21851.  
  21852. From owner-amigapl  Wed Mar 18 17:20:07 1998
  21853. Received: from iftia6.univ.gda.pl (iftia6.univ.gda.pl [153.19.6.6]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA01886 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 17:10:02 +0100 (MET)
  21854. Received: from ppp172a.gdansk.tpnet.pl by iftia6.univ.gda.pl with SMTP
  21855.     (1.38.193.4/16.2) id AA05674; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 17:21:33 +0100
  21856. From: Marcin Ostrowski <amizaur@box43.gnet.pl>
  21857. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  21858. Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 11:07:21 +0100
  21859. Message-Id: <yam7381.1083.3940872@iftia6.univ.gda.pl>
  21860. In-Reply-To: <yam7380.525.2015491512@kki.net.pl>
  21861. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  21862. Subject: Re: Re[2]: PPC do A1200
  21863. Mime-Version: 1.0
  21864. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  21865. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  21866.  
  21867.  
  21868. >Takie pytanka: czy te karty maj=B1 wbudowane SCSI i gniazdo do kart
  21869. >graficznych, czy zmieszcz=B1 sie do oryginalnej obudowy czy musi by=E6
  21870. >tower ?
  21871.  
  21872. Karty Blizzard PPC sa bez SCSI (zwykle - np. "603e") i z SCSI II na
  21873. pokladzie (te z "+" w nazwie - "603e+").
  21874. Maja zlacze do kart BVisionPPC, co do mieszczenia sie, nie wiem.
  21875.  
  21876. -- =
  21877.  
  21878.  
  21879.                              Marcin Ostrowski
  21880.                        A1200/030/882/28/10Mb/170Mb
  21881.                           High-Radiation C1085S
  21882.                                modem 28800
  21883.  
  21884.  
  21885.                                     mailto:amizaur@box43.gnet.pl
  21886.  
  21887. From owner-amigapl  Wed Mar 18 18:50:02 1998
  21888. Received: from david.silesia.pik-net.pl (david.silesia.pik-net.pl [195.82.176.1]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA02089 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 18:24:17 +0100 (MET)
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  21891.     Wed, 18 Mar 1998 18:23:21 +0100
  21892. From: Krzysztof Chwedczuk <kchveti@silesia.pik-net.pl>
  21893. To: Amiga Plearn List <amiga@plearn.edu.pl>, WFMH List <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  21894. Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 16:56:35 +0200
  21895. Message-ID: <yam7381.1757.3568808@mail.silesia.pik-net.pl>
  21896. X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview3 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
  21897. Organization: Pik-Net sieci rozlegle S.A. Gliwice
  21898. Subject: Fotki do Yam2
  21899. MIME-Version: 1.0
  21900. Content-Type: text/plain
  21901.  
  21902. Kto #przysle# lub #przyslal #swoje FOTO moze dostac u mnie 
  21903. kolekcje Fotek do Yama 2.
  21904. /Chetnych zapraszam na *PRIVA/*
  21905.  
  21906. -- 
  21907.                                        hveti
  21908.  
  21909.  
  21910.  
  21911.     Amiga 1200HD 1,6GB/10MB  68030/68882/40MHz
  21912.     BrightCom 33,6k bps Voice-Fax
  21913.     E-mail kchveti@silesia.pik-net.pl
  21914.     UIN ICQ 2889280
  21915.  
  21916.  
  21917. From owner-amigapl  Wed Mar 18 18:50:09 1998
  21918. Received: from student.uci.agh.edu.pl (ramix@student.uci.agh.edu.pl [149.156.98.60]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA02123 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 18:30:45 +0100 (MET)
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  21920.        id SAA06242 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 18:31:25 +0100 (MET)
  21921. Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 18:31:25 +0100 (MET)
  21922. From: Grzegorz Junka <ramix@student.uci.agh.edu.pl>
  21923. X-Sender: ramix@student
  21924. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  21925. Subject: Re: Katalog =?iso-8859-2?Q?kt=F3ry?= i jest, i go nie ma... 
  21926. In-Reply-To: <yam7380.1269.1748878160@smtp.polbox.com>
  21927. Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.95.980318182850.1782A-100000@student>
  21928. MIME-Version: 1.0
  21929. Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-2
  21930. Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE
  21931.  
  21932. > W zwi=E2zku z dzia=EEaniem pewnego programu pad=EEa mi na twardym walidac=
  21933. ja.
  21934. > Kiedy ju=FB si=EB naprawi=EEa, okaza=EEo si=EB =FBe jeden z katalog=F3w j=
  21935. est=20
  21936. >=20
  21937. > Mam takie pytanie: czy kiedy b=EBd=EB chcia=EE tak=E2 partycje optymalizo=
  21938. wa=EA
  21939. > mog=E2 wyst=E2pi=EA jakie=F4 k=EEopoty ????
  21940. >=20
  21941. > (Reorg po przeczytaniu ca=EEej struktury partycji nie zg=EEasza =FBadnych
  21942. > b=EE=EBd=F3w...)
  21943.  
  21944. Nawet jakby mi napisali, ze nie, balbym sie zaryzykowac :) Najlepiej jest
  21945. przegrac wszystko z partycji gdzie indziej i przeformatowac. Wiem, ze
  21946. niezawsze jest gdzie. Ja kiedys tak ukladalem partycje, ze pakowalem cale
  21947. katalogi (np. MUI, fonts, uztyki:grafika, na inna partycje i robilem sobie
  21948. miejsce).
  21949.  
  21950. --
  21951. ,x80Y^"=09Member of Amiga Promotion Group and fanatic AMIGA user
  21952. $0+'=09Grzegorz Junka "Bastian"
  21953. 08=09ramix@student.uci.agh.edu.pl    bastian@apg.plukwa.pdi.net
  21954. 0'
  21955. 9=09A1200Inf 040/40Bliz 32Mb 1.6Gb 12x 1942S CN40BC
  21956.  
  21957. From owner-amigapl  Wed Mar 18 18:50:17 1998
  21958. Received: from student.uci.agh.edu.pl (ramix@student.uci.agh.edu.pl [149.156.98.60]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA02132 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 18:34:47 +0100 (MET)
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  21960.        id SAA06660 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 18:35:31 +0100 (MET)
  21961. Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 18:35:31 +0100 (MET)
  21962. From: Grzegorz Junka <ramix@student.uci.agh.edu.pl>
  21963. X-Sender: ramix@student
  21964. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  21965. Subject: Re: znikajace przyciski
  21966. In-Reply-To: <648.380T737T9571281@pkp.wroc.pl>
  21967. Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.95.980318183446.1782C-100000@student>
  21968. MIME-Version: 1.0
  21969. Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
  21970.  
  21971. > Zauwazylem cos ciekawego - po zainstalowaniu cgxv41_r70.lha czyli
  21972. > CyberGraphX 41.18 zniknely mi przyciski w listerach magellana...
  21973. > Po zamianie samej tylko bilioteki cgxsystem.library na starsza
  21974. > (cgxv41_r69f.lha), wszystko wrocilo do normy :O
  21975. > Czyzby jakis maly blad w nowszej wersji ?
  21976. > Czy komus tez sie tak stalo ?
  21977.  
  21978. Mi z kolei znikaly przyciski w IBrowse (a wiec MUI). Ale bez przyczyny -
  21979. to znaczy, po resecie (lub kilku) bylo ok.
  21980.  
  21981. --
  21982. ,x80Y^"    Member of Amiga Promotion Group and fanatic AMIGA user
  21983. $0+'    Grzegorz Junka "Bastian"
  21984. 08    ramix@student.uci.agh.edu.pl    bastian@apg.plukwa.pdi.net
  21985. 0'
  21986. 9    A1200Inf 040/40Bliz 32Mb 1.6Gb 12x 1942S CN40BC
  21987.  
  21988. From owner-amigapl  Wed Mar 18 19:19:56 1998
  21989. Received: from mail.supermedia.pl (dns1.supermedia.pl [195.116.124.17]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA02255 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 19:02:43 +0100 (MET)
  21990. Received: from ppp2-cst40.warszawa.tpnet.pl (ppp2-cst40.warszawa.tpnet.pl [195.116.250.40]) by mail.supermedia.pl (NTMail 3.03.0014/4c.aamn) with ESMTP id ua456710 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 18:59:32 +0100
  21991. From: Peter Drapich <docent@union.org.pl>
  21992. Reply-To: docent@union.org.pl
  21993. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  21994. Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 22:29:14 +0100
  21995. Message-ID: <yam7381.704.123958536@mail.supermedia.pl>
  21996. In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.3.95.980318121642.11842C-100000@ernie>
  21997. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  21998. Organization: Union Systems
  21999. Subject: Re: Odp: mUSASHI and AmigaOS
  22000. MIME-Version: 1.0
  22001. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
  22002. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  22003.  
  22004. On 18-Mar-98, Kamil Iskra wrote:
  22005. >> Czy tak trudno jest pisa=E6 programy, kt=F3re nie nadwyr=EA=BFaj=B9 te=
  22006. go zaufania?
  22007. >Tak, bardzo trudno. Przekonasz sie, jak napiszesz swoj pierwszy
  22008. >nietrywialny [1] program.
  22009. >[1] nietrywialny: wiecej niz 5 plikow ze zrodlami, wiecej niz 5000 linii=
  22010.  
  22011. >kodu.
  22012.  
  22013. Hehe, przesadzasz ... dla niektorych nawet 100 liniowy program jest
  22014. nietrywialnym :) (mowie tu oczywiscie o programistach, nie o laikach..)
  22015.  
  22016. Docent
  22017.  
  22018. --
  22019. Life would be so much easier if we could just look at the source code.
  22020.  
  22021. From owner-amigapl  Wed Mar 18 19:20:04 1998
  22022. Received: from willow.oi.pz.zgora.pl (willow.oi.pz.zgora.pl [193.59.82.212]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA02227 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 18:53:06 +0100 (MET)
  22023. Received: from localhost (spajk@localhost)
  22024.     by willow.oi.pz.zgora.pl (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA08512
  22025.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 18:51:26 +0100 (CET)
  22026. Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 18:51:26 +0100 (CET)
  22027. From: Dariusz Woloch <spajk@willow.oi.pz.zgora.pl>
  22028. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  22029. Subject: Re: Re[2]: PPC do A1200
  22030. In-Reply-To: <yam7381.1083.3940872@iftia6.univ.gda.pl>
  22031. Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.3.96.980318184944.8225A-100000@willow.oi.pz.zgora.pl>
  22032. MIME-Version: 1.0
  22033. Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
  22034.  
  22035. > Karty Blizzard PPC sa bez SCSI (zwykle - np. "603e") i z SCSI II na
  22036. > pokladzie (te z "+" w nazwie - "603e+").
  22037. > Maja zlacze do kart BVisionPPC, co do mieszczenia sie, nie wiem.
  22038.  
  22039. W marktomie powiedzieli ze sie mieszcza pod klapke;)
  22040. do 603e nie mozna i nie bedzie mozna dolozyc scsii
  22041.  
  22042.     _\_                          _/_  
  22043. |)\/  (o\ Dariusz Woloch (d2)  /o)  \/(| irc d2
  22044. |)/\__(_/ phone 075-734-2683   \_)__/\(| icq 6828655 
  22045. Summon Your Faith - Your Intention Must Be Clear 
  22046.  
  22047. From owner-amigapl  Wed Mar 18 19:50:04 1998
  22048. Received: from www.kki.net.pl (www.kki.net.pl [195.116.9.70]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA02345 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 19:49:42 +0100 (MET)
  22049. Received: from kki.net.pl (Amy@ppp167.gdynia.tpnet.pl [194.204.135.167])
  22050.     by www.kki.net.pl (8.8.7/8.8.7.ver6) with SMTP id TAA03620;
  22051.     Wed, 18 Mar 1998 19:50:25 +0100
  22052. From: Pawel Krak <phob@kki.net.pl>
  22053. To: amiga-plearn <AMIGA@plearn.edu.pl>
  22054. CC: amiga-wfmh <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  22055. Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 21:36:24 +0100
  22056. Message-ID: <yam7321.1208.19987728@kki.net.pl>
  22057. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  22058. Subject: bps counter
  22059. MIME-Version: 1.0
  22060. Content-Type: text/plain
  22061.  
  22062. Hiya,
  22063.  
  22064. Do napisania tego listu sklonila mnie dzisiejsza sesja z netem.
  22065. Pierwsze 10 minut polaczenia bylo idealne (o 21:15)- wszystko
  22066. smigalo (www, ftp, telnet, e-mail) az milo. Az nagle ... bach!
  22067. Wszystko zwolnilo niesamowicie. Pytanie: czy ktos zna namiary
  22068. na programik, ktory na biezaco kontrolowal by predkosc polaczenia
  22069. w bps (podejrzewam, ze w czasie sesji nastapila renegocjacja
  22070. polaczenia) i wyswietlalby ja w jakims zgrabnym, malym okienku?
  22071. -- 
  22072. See ya!                                          Phobos
  22073. -----------------------------------------------------------
  22074. Pawel Krak * IRC:Phobos_ * mailto:phob@kki.net.pl
  22075. A1200/040/33MHz/18MB/420MB/1084S/CanonBJC240/BrightCom33600
  22076. -----------------------------------------------------------
  22077.  
  22078. From owner-amigapl  Wed Mar 18 19:50:12 1998
  22079. Received: from www.kki.net.pl (www.kki.net.pl [195.116.9.70]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA02342 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 19:49:22 +0100 (MET)
  22080. Received: from kki.net.pl (Amy@ppp167.gdynia.tpnet.pl [194.204.135.167])
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  22082.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 19:50:31 +0100
  22083. From: Pawel Krak <phob@kki.net.pl>
  22084. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  22085. Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 22:18:25 +0100
  22086. Message-ID: <yam7321.1256.18561896@kki.net.pl>
  22087. In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.3.96.980317180638.2741A-100000@plus>
  22088. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  22089. Subject: Re: Amiga nadal ma sie dobrze
  22090. MIME-Version: 1.0
  22091. Content-Type: text/plain
  22092.  
  22093. Dnia 17-Mar-98, Grzegorz Junka napisal:
  22094.  
  22095. >przetlumaczylo system operacyjny na PPC). A Phase5 zapowiedzialo juz
  22096. >karty graficzne, ale nie na Zorro, lecz na jakims zupelnie nowym,
  22097. >dziwnym interfejsie. W swiecie Amigi nie ma dyktatury wlasciciela,
  22098.  
  22099. Sorry, ale mysle, ze w tym przypadku chodzi raczej o przedpotopowosc
  22100. niektorych rozwiazan sprzetowych Amigi, a nie odwage Phase5, czy
  22101. cyberdemokracje uzytkownikow. Phase5, jak kazda firma, aby przetrwac
  22102. musi realizowac zyski i nie stac ja (szczegolnie, ze nie jest firma
  22103. bogata w porowaniu do takiego np. Intela ;)) na eksperymenty w stylu
  22104. "przyjmie sie, czy sie nie przyjmie?" Ludzie z P5 po prostu *wiedza* 
  22105. ze trzeba gruntownie zmodyfikowac niektore rzeczy, po to wlasnie zeby
  22106. zapewnic sobie w przyszlosci zyski. Wiadomo Amigowcy sa wyposzczeni
  22107. (zarowno sprzetowo, jak i programowo), a do tego dumni i nie
  22108. pozwola pluc sobie w twarz byle jakiemu klonowi ;) Pojda wiec na
  22109. kazde rozwiazanie, ktore jest dobre (lepsze niez dotychczasowe),
  22110. tanie i nie ma zwiazku z Intelem lub M$ :) Do tego zreszta zostali
  22111. przez lata przyzwyczajeni ;) I bardzo dobrze! :)
  22112.  
  22113. -- 
  22114. See ya!                                          Phobos
  22115. -----------------------------------------------------------
  22116. Pawel Krak * IRC:Phobos_ * mailto:phob@kki.net.pl
  22117. A1200/040/33MHz/18MB/420MB/1084S/CanonBJC240/BrightCom33600
  22118. -----------------------------------------------------------
  22119.  
  22120. From owner-amigapl  Wed Mar 18 19:50:18 1998
  22121. Received: from dollar.it.com.pl (dollar.it.com.pl [195.116.142.3]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA02321 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 19:34:26 +0100 (MET)
  22122. Received: from it.pl (BruceWillis@pppb65.leszno.tpnet.pl [195.205.244.65])
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  22124.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 19:33:58 +0100 (MET)
  22125. From: Bartosz Mediger <afi@usa.net>
  22126. To: amigapl@amiga.com.pl
  22127. Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 22:09:29 -0500
  22128. Message-ID: <yam7380.1485.1747912504@www.sylaba.poznan.pl>
  22129. X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
  22130. Organization: nah-kolor
  22131. Subject: SS: internet i Yabol.
  22132. MIME-Version: 1.0
  22133. Content-Type: text/plain
  22134.  
  22135.  
  22136.     Czesc. 
  22137.  
  22138.         Chcialbym  spytac,  czy  komus z listowiczow udalo sie posurfowac pod
  22139. emulacja  Mac'ka na SS ? Jako, iz aplikacje potrzebna do tej zabawy (FreePPP)
  22140. mam  w jezyku niemieckim, wiec nie bardzo wiem, CO ON ODE MNIE CHCE.. W miare
  22141. mozliwosci, prosze o kontakt.. z gory dziekuje!
  22142.  
  22143. -- 
  22144. Bartosz Mediger 
  22145. mail:afi@usa.net
  22146. http://www.kki.net.pl/afi
  22147.  
  22148. From owner-amigapl  Wed Mar 18 20:20:05 1998
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  22152.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 20:17:17 +0100
  22153. From: Darek Gora <gural@friko.onet.pl>
  22154. Reply-To: Darek Gora <gural@kki.net.pl>
  22155. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  22156. Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 20:16:22 UTC-1
  22157. Message-ID: <yam7381.1103.31752776@195.116.9.70>
  22158. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  22159. Subject: MACROM
  22160. MIME-Version: 1.0
  22161. Content-Type: text/plain
  22162.  
  22163. Gdzie moge to cos znalezc?
  22164.  
  22165. Pozdrowienia! 4 all
  22166.  
  22167. -- 
  22168.  
  22169.         gural@kki.net.pl
  22170.       www.kki.net.pl/gural
  22171.   A1200T 040/40MHz 850HDD 10RAM
  22172.      Hayes Accura 288 + Fax
  22173.  
  22174. From owner-amigapl  Wed Mar 18 21:49:56 1998
  22175. Received: from merkury.piotrkow.tpsa.pl (merkury.piotrkow.tpsa.pl [194.204.159.4]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA02775 for <amigapl@wfmh.org.pl>; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 21:45:31 +0100 (MET)
  22176. Received: from amiga.org.pl (ppp@pppb8.szczecin.tpnet.pl [195.205.239.8])
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  22178.     for <amigapl@wfmh.org.pl>; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 21:45:42 +0100 (MET)
  22179. From: Krzysztof Michalski <karol@amiga.org.pl>
  22180. To: Lista uzytkownikow Amisi <amigapl@wfmh.org.pl>
  22181. Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 21:21:20 +0100
  22182. Message-ID: <yam7381.1011.17868568@www.tpnet.pl>
  22183. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  22184. Subject: Problem: Apollo 040
  22185. MIME-Version: 1.0
  22186. X-ISO-CONVERTED: Yam_ISO2 1.06 (17.11.97) (c) Silver Dream !
  22187. X-YAMISO-UPDATE: ftp://wfmh.org.pl/pub/yam_iso2/
  22188. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  22189. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  22190.  
  22191. Witam Wszystkich !
  22192.  
  22193. Kolega kupi=B3 za moim przyk=B3adem kart=EA Apollo 1240/40, 32 MB EDO.
  22194. Od samego pocz=B1tku wieczne resety, walidacje oraz dyskoteka. =
  22195.  
  22196. Po ka=BFdym wy=B3=B1czeniu - ustawianie zegara, plamy na patternie,
  22197. znikaj=B1ce elementy ikonek.
  22198. Wczoraj tragedia - samoczynnie spali=B3a mu si=EA na karcie bateria (bia=B3=
  22199. a,
  22200. okr=B1g=B3a, plastykowa os=B3ona). =
  22201.  
  22202. Amiga jest w wie=BFy E/Box - wi=EAc to nie zasilanie. Pami=EA=E6 Fast
  22203. sprawdzona. Wirusy nieobecne.
  22204. Jego karta dzia=B3a na innych komputerach dobrze nawet z tym EDO.
  22205. Jego Amisia bez karty chodzi bez zastrze=BFe=F1.
  22206. Nie bior=EA pod uwag=EA z=B3ej wersji p=B3yty g=B3=F3wnej Amisi,
  22207. gdy=BF ja mia=B3em identyczne problemy, kt=F3re w 90% znikn=EA=B3y
  22208. po w=B3o=BFeniu do E/Boxa (czasami pojawiaj=B1 si=EA plamy,
  22209. kreski na ekranie, resety). Dwa komputery ze z=B3=B1 p=B3yt=B1?
  22210.  
  22211. Pomocy! Kto wie o co chodzi? /Jest nas coraz mniej!/
  22212.  
  22213.                            Pozdrowienia
  22214. -- =
  22215.  
  22216.                                         Krzysztof Michalski
  22217.                                       mailto:karol@amiga.org.pl
  22218.  
  22219. From owner-amigapl  Wed Mar 18 22:19:57 1998
  22220. Received: from mail.supermedia.pl (dns1.supermedia.pl [195.116.124.17]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA03010 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 22:18:06 +0100 (MET)
  22221. Received: from ppp4-120.warszawa.tpnet.pl (ppp4-120.warszawa.tpnet.pl [195.205.246.120]) by mail.supermedia.pl (NTMail 3.03.0014/4c.aamn) with ESMTP id za456975 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 22:14:50 +0100
  22222. From: Peter Drapich <docent@union.org.pl>
  22223. Reply-To: docent@union.org.pl
  22224. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  22225. Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 22:55:59 +0100
  22226. Message-ID: <yam7381.2982.123958536@mail.supermedia.pl>
  22227. In-Reply-To: <01bd5280$f6c46700$fdfefe01@mk>
  22228. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  22229. Organization: Union Systems
  22230. Subject: Re: Pilne: Jak zastapic BeginIO()
  22231. MIME-Version: 1.0
  22232. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
  22233. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  22234.  
  22235. On 18-Mar-98, Wojciech Kocjan wrote:
  22236. >Czesc!
  22237.  
  22238. >Mam pilne pytanie do developer=F3w (prosze bez dygresji w stylu: a po co=
  22239.  
  22240. >zastepowac... - jest mi to niezbedne). M=F3j program w SAS/C korzysta z
  22241. >funkcji BeginIO() z amiga.lib, ale niestety gdy chce zrobic z niego
  22242. >biblioteke, wyklada sie dokladnie na tym (z i bez wstawianiem lib:amiga.=
  22243. lib
  22244. >w slinku).
  22245.  
  22246. Jak sie wyklada ? Nie powinno byc z amiga.lib problemow. Pamietaj, ze
  22247. wszystkie funkcje z amiga.lib wymagaja parametrow na stosie, a nie w
  22248. rejestrach. Trzeba ustawic parms=3Dboth. Jesli masz ustawione parms=3Dreg=
  22249. ister to
  22250. jest prawdopodobna przyczyna wykladania sie.
  22251.  
  22252. >Pr=F3bowalem zamiast tego wstawic SendIO(), ale bez skutku. Co nalezy ws=
  22253. tawic?
  22254. >Moze bezposrednie odwolanie do device'a? Watpie!
  22255.  
  22256. Nie mylisz sie - BeginIO wlasnie cos w tym rodzaju robi. Kiedys bylo mi
  22257. BeginIO potrzebne w asm i sobie obejrzalem w amiga.lib, jak jest napisana=
  22258.  ta
  22259. funkcja. Wyglada ona mniej wiecej tak:
  22260.  
  22261. ; w a1 masz pointer do IORequest
  22262.  
  22263. move.l   $14(a1),a6
  22264. jsr   -30(a6)      ;BeginIO
  22265.  
  22266. Docent
  22267. --
  22268. Windows isn't crippleware: it's "Fuctionally Challenged"
  22269.  
  22270. From owner-amigapl  Wed Mar 18 22:20:05 1998
  22271. Received: from imagent.inet.com.pl (imagent.inet.com.pl [195.116.59.5]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA02965 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 22:08:27 +0100 (MET)
  22272. Received: from box43.gnet.pl ([195.205.239.43]) by imagent.inet.com.pl
  22273.           (post.office MTA v2.0 0813 ID# 0-11865) with SMTP id AAA104;
  22274.           Wed, 18 Mar 1998 22:11:29 +0100
  22275. From: Piotr Czerniawski <piotrcz@box43.gnet.pl>
  22276. To: AmigaPL <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  22277. CC: Amiga <amiga@plearn.edu.pl>
  22278. Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 22:09:06 +0100
  22279. Message-ID: <yam7381.311.2019331008@inet.com.pl>
  22280. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  22281. Subject: Burst
  22282. MIME-Version: 1.0
  22283. X-ISO-CONVERTED: Yam_ISO2 1.06 (17.11.97) (c) Silver Dream !
  22284. X-YAMISO-UPDATE: ftp://wfmh.org.pl/pub/yam_iso2/
  22285. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  22286. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  22287.  
  22288. Witam
  22289.  
  22290. Co to jest ten "tryb burst" i co daje jego w=B3=B1czenie ?
  22291.  
  22292. Pozdrawiam, Piotrek.
  22293.  
  22294. From owner-amigapl  Wed Mar 18 22:20:16 1998
  22295. Received: from opnt.optimus.wroc.pl (opnt.optimus.wroc.pl [195.117.195.3]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA02887 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 21:55:00 +0100 (MET)
  22296. Received: from opnt.optimus.wroc.pl (unverified [195.116.164.8]) by opnt.optimus.wroc.pl
  22297.  (EMWAC SMTPRS 0.83) with SMTP id <B0000076699@opnt.optimus.wroc.pl>;
  22298.  Wed, 18 Mar 1998 21:54:18 +0100
  22299. From: Maciej Matyka <maq@opnt.optimus.wroc.pl>
  22300. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  22301. Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 21:53:27 +0100
  22302. Message-ID: <yam7381.1377.2014694544@opnt.optimus.wroc.pl>
  22303. In-Reply-To: <yam7321.1208.19987728@kki.net.pl>
  22304. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  22305. Subject: Re: bps counter
  22306. MIME-Version: 1.0
  22307. Content-Type: text/plain
  22308.  
  22309. Dnia 17-Sty-98, Pawel Krak napisal(a):
  22310.  
  22311. >Pytanie: czy ktos zna namiary
  22312. >na programik, ktory na biezaco kontrolowal by predkosc polaczenia
  22313. >w bps (podejrzewam, ze w czasie sesji nastapila renegocjacja
  22314. >polaczenia) i wyswietlalby ja w jakims zgrabnym, malym okienku?
  22315.  
  22316. comm/tcp/MiamiMonitor11.lha - moze byc tym, czego szukasz.
  22317.  
  22318. /// MaQ
  22319.  
  22320. -- 
  22321.                                    "AMIGA COMPUTER STUDIO"
  22322. Maciej Matyka | MaQ of GENETIC | scene coding * progamming
  22323. Amiga 1200/030.50/10MB/HD340MB | maq@opnt.optimus.wroc.pl
  22324.  
  22325.  
  22326. From owner-amigapl  Wed Mar 18 23:49:58 1998
  22327. Received: from hermes.telbank.pl (vena.telbank.PL [195.136.250.210]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA03284 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 23:44:54 +0100 (MET)
  22328. Received: from bptnet.pl ([195.136.250.22]) by hermes.telbank.pl
  22329.           (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2 release (PO205-101c)
  22330.           ID# 164-43612U3000L100S0) with SMTP id AAA194
  22331.           for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 23:48:10 +0100
  22332. From: "Marek Szymanski" <szymanski@bptnet.pl>
  22333. Reply-To: tagor@wfmh.org.pl
  22334. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  22335. Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 23:43:38 +0100
  22336. Message-ID: <yam7381.1912.2014823456@vena.telbank.pl>
  22337. In-Reply-To: <yam7381.1011.17868568@www.tpnet.pl>
  22338. X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview3 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
  22339. Organization: WFMH
  22340. Subject: Re: Problem: Apollo 040
  22341. MIME-Version: 1.0
  22342. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  22343. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  22344.  
  22345. Cze=B6=E6 Krzysztof,
  22346.  =
  22347.  
  22348. On 18-Mar-98, Krzysztof Michalski wrote: =
  22349.  
  22350.  
  22351. > Kolega kupi=B3 za moim przyk=B3adem kart=EA Apollo 1240/40, 32 MB EDO.
  22352. > Wczoraj tragedia - samoczynnie spali=B3a mu si=EA na karcie bateria
  22353. (bia=B3a,
  22354. > okr=B1g=B3a, plastykowa os=B3ona). =
  22355.  
  22356. > sprawdzona. Wirusy nieobecne.
  22357.  
  22358. Nowa generacja wirus=F3w atakuj=B1ca hardware?
  22359. > Jego karta dzia=B3a na innych komputerach dobrze nawet z tym EDO.
  22360. > Jego Amisia bez karty chodzi bez zastrze=BFe=F1.
  22361. > Nie bior=EA pod uwag=EA z=B3ej wersji p=B3yty g=B3=F3wnej Amisi,
  22362. > gdy=BF ja mia=B3em identyczne problemy, kt=F3re w 90% znikn=EA=B3y
  22363. > po w=B3o=BFeniu do E/Boxa (czasami pojawiaj=B1 si=EA plamy,
  22364. > kreski na ekranie, resety). Dwa komputery ze z=B3=B1 p=B3yt=B1?
  22365. Przez d=B3ugi okres czasu by=B3em nieszcz=EA=B6liwym u=BFytkownikiem kart=
  22366. y
  22367. Apollo1230. Jak to okre=B6li=B3 jeden z posiadaczy tego typu karty:
  22368. /Ta karta nie ma  b=B3=EAd=F3w. Ona jest b=B3=EAdem./
  22369.  
  22370. Ad rem: najwi=EAkszym problemem by=B3o zl=B1cze. Karta =BCle osadzona w z=
  22371. l=B1czu
  22372. wyczynia=B3a naprawd=EA cuda. Potrafi=B3a pochodzi=E6 par=EA=A0godzin, a =
  22373. p=F3=BCniej
  22374. podobne zjawiska (by=B3y te=BF i inne) jak opisa=B3e=B6.
  22375. Sprawdza=B3em na innych p=B3ytach. Na niekt=F3rych p=B3ytach chodzi=B3a
  22376. idealnie, a by=B3a i taka, gdzie za diab=B3a nic si=EA ni da=B3o uruchomi=
  22377. =E6.
  22378.  
  22379. Mo=BFe i w Twoim wypadku sprawc=B1=A0nieszcz=EA=B6=E6 jest z=B3=B1cze? To=
  22380.  samopalenie
  22381. baterii wskazywa=B3oby na problemy z napi=EAciem (?).
  22382.  
  22383. Powodzenia w walce-
  22384. -- =
  22385.  
  22386. Marek SZYMANSKI  Team *AMIGA*
  22387.     mailto:tagor@wfmh.org.pl=
  22388.  
  22389. From owner-amigapl  Thu Mar 19 00:19:57 1998
  22390. Received: from student.uci.agh.edu.pl (ramix@student.uci.agh.edu.pl [149.156.98.60]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA03377 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 00:08:15 +0100 (MET)
  22391. Received: from localhost (ramix@localhost) by student.uci.agh.edu.pl (8.8.6/8.8.5/ts-tmpl.970124) with SMTP
  22392.        id AAA25843 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 00:07:03 +0100 (MET)
  22393. Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 00:07:03 +0100 (MET)
  22394. From: Grzegorz Junka <ramix@student.uci.agh.edu.pl>
  22395. X-Sender: ramix@student
  22396. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  22397. Subject: Re: Amiga nadal ma sie dobrze
  22398. In-Reply-To: <yam7321.1256.18561896@kki.net.pl>
  22399. Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.95.980319000338.24675A-100000@student>
  22400. MIME-Version: 1.0
  22401. Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
  22402.  
  22403. > >przetlumaczylo system operacyjny na PPC). A Phase5 zapowiedzialo juz
  22404. > >karty graficzne, ale nie na Zorro, lecz na jakims zupelnie nowym,
  22405. > >dziwnym interfejsie. W swiecie Amigi nie ma dyktatury wlasciciela,
  22406. > 
  22407. > Sorry, ale mysle, ze w tym przypadku chodzi raczej o przedpotopowosc
  22408. > niektorych rozwiazan sprzetowych Amigi, a nie odwage Phase5, czy
  22409.  
  22410. No dobra. Mamy tu dwa wyjscia. Albo wszyscy beda czekali az wlasciciel
  22411. komputera w koncu cos z tym zrobie (jak pewnie robily by firmy w przypadku
  22412. bankructwa IBM, Apple) albo zadecyduje sie na rozwiazania wlasne - z tym
  22413. ze inna firma moze sie z tym niezgodzic i zrobic jeszcze cos innego (tak
  22414. mi przyszlo do glowy. Fajnie by bylo, gdyby IBM zbankrutowal i kazda firma
  22415. produkujaca plyty do pc wypuscila nowe nowoczesne modele ze swoim wlasnym
  22416. nowym slotem rozszerzen - niekompatybilnym z zadnym innym :)
  22417.  
  22418. --
  22419. ,x80Y^"    Member of Amiga Promotion Group and fanatic AMIGA user
  22420. $0+'    Grzegorz Junka "Bastian"
  22421. 08    ramix@student.uci.agh.edu.pl    bastian@apg.plukwa.pdi.net
  22422. 0'
  22423. 9    A1200Inf 040/40Bliz 32Mb 1.6Gb 12x 1942S CN40BC
  22424.  
  22425. From owner-amigapl  Thu Mar 19 00:20:08 1998
  22426. Received: from tryton.kaszub.top.pl (root@tryton.kaszub.top.pl [195.116.50.3]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA03400 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 00:19:09 +0100 (MET)
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  22429.     Thu, 19 Mar 1998 00:18:20 +0100
  22430. From: Piotr =?iso-8859-1?Q?Ka=FAmierczak?= <cerber@key.net.pl>
  22431. To: Lista Amiga <amiga@plearn.edu.pl>,
  22432.         Lista AmigaPL WFMH <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  22433. Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 00:16:09 -0000
  22434. Message-ID: <yam7382.484.130589104@195.116.50.3>
  22435. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  22436. Organization: Appendix
  22437. Subject: PPC & A3000
  22438. MIME-Version: 1.0
  22439. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
  22440. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  22441.  
  22442. Witam! =
  22443.  
  22444.  
  22445. Przymierzam si=EB powa=FBnie do zakupu PPC (w sumie za=EEawione jest w 60=
  22446. %), ale
  22447. wyczyta=EEem na www.vgr.com, =FBe:
  22448.  
  22449. The A3000 does not have the _int2 interrupt line connected to the FastSlo=
  22450. t
  22451. (CPUslot). It seems CBM did not want developers hanging I/O stuff off the=
  22452.  =
  22453.  
  22454. FastSlot so the _int2 line was not run to it. The A2000/A4000(T) all have=
  22455.  
  22456. the _int2 line on their "cpuslot" so this is not a problem. On the A3000
  22457. the line is not there. The only products that use this interrupt line are=
  22458.  =
  22459.  
  22460. the CyberStorm MKII with the SCSI module, CyberStorm MKIII and =
  22461.  
  22462. CyberStormPPC. The PPC card needs this _int2 line to do proper task =
  22463.  
  22464. switching and the SCSI also needs it.
  22465.  
  22466. Czy to znaczy, =FBe karta z ppc nie p=F3jdzie na mojej a3k. Podobno trzeb=
  22467. a co=F4 tam
  22468. jeszcze przerobi=EA? Jak to jest i kto si=EB tego podejmie! Nie chc=EB za=
  22469. mienia=EA a3k
  22470. na a4k, bo a4k to kicha! :))) Patryk? ;)))
  22471.  
  22472. -- =
  22473.  
  22474. Kemo Sabay!
  22475.  
  22476. Piotr Kazmierczak          cERBEr of aPPENDIx                  ICQ: 46915=
  22477. 17
  22478. cerber@key.net.pl          http://www.key.net.pl/~cerber       Team AMIGA=
  22479.  
  22480. cerber@airi.plukwa.pdi.net Amiga Integrated Regsite Initiative FidoNet:
  22481. A3000T/030/CV643D/14MB     Radioactive BBS 058-6216107         2:481/60.3=
  22482.  
  22483.  
  22484. From owner-amigapl  Thu Mar 19 00:20:20 1998
  22485. Received: from friko.onet.pl (friko.onet.pl [194.204.191.9]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA03365 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 00:05:53 +0100 (MET)
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  22488.       id XAA19384 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 23:53:44 +0100
  22489. From: RHS Linux User <malafifi@friko.onet.pl>
  22490. Reply-To: RHS Linux User <malafifi@friko.onet.pl>
  22491. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  22492. Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 18:51:37 +0100
  22493. Message-ID: <yam7381.1898.2016142576@priv.onet.pl>
  22494. In-Reply-To: <yam7379.2934.124160008@mail.supermedia.pl>
  22495. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  22496. Organization: SIEDZIBA =?iso-8859-2?Q?DIAB=A3A?=
  22497. Subject: Re: re[2]: mUSASHI and AmigaOS
  22498. MIME-Version: 1.0
  22499. X-ISO-CONVERTED: Yam_ISO2 1.03 (15.10.97) (c) Silver Dream !
  22500. X-YAMISO-UPDATE: ftp://wfmh.man.szczecin.pl/pub/yam_iso2/
  22501. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  22502. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  22503.  
  22504. On 16-Mar-98, kto=B6 tam wrote:
  22505. Kt>>ghm... no moze mnie ponioslo, ale na temat zalet OSa amigi moglbym na=
  22506. pisac
  22507. Kt>>kilkakrotnie wiecej i przytoczyc dziala wiekszego kalibru przeciw tez=
  22508. ie
  22509. kt>>przedstawionej przez Musashiego. Brak ochrony pamieci Amigi w jego
  22510. Kt>>mniemaniu
  22511. Kt>>jest choroba systemu, otco.
  22512. Panowie.I po co ta ca=B3a awantura?Jak by=B6cie si=EA urodzili bez r=EAki=
  22513. ,
  22514. nogi albo bez g=B3owy,to te=BF by=B6cie zdrowi nie byli.
  22515. -- =
  22516.  
  22517.               ---------------------------------------------------
  22518.               |     RHS Linux User znany jako Andrzej P=EAczak    |
  22519.               | A1k2 z dodatkami E-mial: malafifi@friko.onet.pl |
  22520.               ---------------------------------------------------
  22521.  
  22522. From owner-amigapl  Thu Mar 19 00:20:35 1998
  22523. Received: from info.cyf-kr.edu.pl (info.cyf-kr.edu.pl [149.156.4.11]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA03388 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 00:11:40 +0100 (MET)
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  22529.     Thu, 19 Mar 1998 00:10:53 +0100 (MET)
  22530. From: Wojtek Jaworski <mxjawors@cyf-kr.edu.pl>
  22531. To: Lista dyskusyjna <amiga@plearn.edu.pl>, amigapl@amiga.com.pl
  22532. Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 00:04:30 +0200
  22533. Message-ID: <yam7382.1543.119371512@kinga>
  22534. X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview3 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
  22535. Subject: Optymalizacja 040
  22536. MIME-Version: 1.0
  22537. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  22538. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  22539.  
  22540. Cze=B6=E6,
  22541. Mo=BFecie mi napisa=E6 jak najlepiej i czym zoptymalizowa=E6 =B6rodowisko=
  22542.  dla
  22543. procesora 040.
  22544. Pozdrawiam.
  22545. -- =
  22546.  
  22547.  
  22548. Wojtek
  22549. mailto: mxjawors@cyfronet.krakow.pl
  22550.  
  22551. From owner-amigapl  Thu Mar 19 01:49:57 1998
  22552. Received: from butler.medianet.pl (root@butler.medianet.com.pl [195.116.184.2]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA03639 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 01:31:03 +0100 (MET)
  22553. Received: from mail.union.org.pl (virtual.medianet.pl [195.116.184.254])
  22554.     by butler.medianet.pl (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA07448
  22555.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 01:32:23 +0100 (MET)
  22556. Received: from union.org.pl (ppp4-7.warszawa.tpnet.pl [195.205.246.7])
  22557.     by mail.union.org.pl (8.8.6/8.8.8) with SMTP id BAA06248
  22558.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 01:29:46 GMT
  22559. From: Artur Muszynski <amst@union.org.pl>
  22560. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  22561. Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 01:23:26 +0100
  22562. Message-ID: <yam7382.1300.122360920@mail.union.org.pl>
  22563. In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.3.95.980319000338.24675A-100000@student>
  22564. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  22565. Organization: Union
  22566. Subject: Re: Amiga nadal ma sie dobrze
  22567. MIME-Version: 1.0
  22568. X-ISO-CONVERTED: Yam_ISO2 1.05 (02.11.97) (c) Silver Dream !
  22569. X-YAMISO-UPDATE: ftp://wfmh.man.szczecin.pl/pub/yam_iso2/
  22570. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  22571. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  22572.  
  22573. On 19-Mar-98, Grzegorz Junka wrote:
  22574. > mi przyszlo do glowy. Fajnie by bylo, gdyby IBM zbankrutowal i kazda fi=
  22575. rma
  22576. > produkujaca plyty do pc wypuscila nowe nowoczesne modele ze swoim wlasn=
  22577. ym
  22578. > nowym slotem rozszerzen - niekompatybilnym z zadnym innym :)
  22579.  
  22580. 1. IBM niewiele ma obecnie do powiedzenia w =B6wiecie pece. Pr=EAdzej VES=
  22581. A albo
  22582. Intel.
  22583. 2. Jakby nie by=B3o, IBM jest wsp=F3=B3tw=F3rc=B1 PowerPC, wi=EAc co ty o=
  22584. d nich chcesz?
  22585.  
  22586. -- =
  22587.  
  22588.  
  22589.    // Artur Muszynski (AMST/UNION) A4000/040/EGS
  22590.  \//  e-mail: amst@union.org.pl
  22591.  
  22592. From owner-amigapl  Thu Mar 19 07:19:57 1998
  22593. Received: from friko.onet.pl (friko.onet.pl [194.204.191.9]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA05895 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 06:53:29 +0100 (MET)
  22594. Received: from friko.onet.pl (ppp91.zgora.tpnet.pl [195.116.244.91])
  22595.           by friko.onet.pl (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP
  22596.       id GAA20693 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 06:41:10 +0100
  22597. From: Irek <irekm@kki.net.pl>
  22598. Reply-To: irekm@kki.net.pl
  22599. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  22600. Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 15:19:41 -0500
  22601. Message-ID: <yam7381.2071.2714864@kki.net.pl>
  22602. In-Reply-To: <yam7380.525.2015491512@kki.net.pl>
  22603. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.3a [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  22604. Subject: Re: Re[2]: PPC do A1200
  22605. MIME-Version: 1.0
  22606. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  22607. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  22608.  
  22609. Dnia 17-Mar-98, Lolo napisa=EE:
  22610. >On 15-Mar-98, Artur Muszynski wrote:
  22611. >> =
  22612.  
  22613. >> Eureka kilka Blizzard=F3w PPC sprowadzi=B3a i ju=BF zd=B1=BFy=B3a sprz=
  22614. eda=E6. Na razie
  22615. >s=B1
  22616. >> tylko wersje z 040. Z 060 b=EAd=B1... no w=B3a=B6nie dok=B3adnie nie w=
  22617. iadomo.
  22618.  
  22619. >Takie pytanka: czy te karty maj=B1 wbudowane SCSI i gniazdo do kart
  22620. >graficznych, czy zmieszcz=B1 sie do oryginalnej obudowy czy musi by=E6 t=
  22621. ower ?
  22622.  
  22623. Dzwoni=B3em niedawno do Eureki i dowiadywa=B3em si=EA o tych kartach par=EA=
  22624.  rzeczy.
  22625. Niestety, ni maj=B1 SCSI i co najgorsze *nie b=EAdzie mo=BFna upgrade'owa=
  22626. c* ich
  22627. do p=F3=BCniejszych wersji z SCSI :((((
  22628.  
  22629. -- =
  22630.  
  22631. e-mail: irekm@friko.onet.pl      __
  22632. e-mail: irekm@kki.net.pl        // \   HTTP: on prepare
  22633. *Easy work?   - on Amiga*         \__          A1k2+850MB+4MB+CDx8+28800
  22634. *Best system? - on Amiga*            \
  22635. *BIG TROUBLE? - on PC...*         \_// NOWMAN - Amiga Fan 4ever !
  22636.  
  22637. From owner-amigapl  Thu Mar 19 07:20:05 1998
  22638. Received: from friko.onet.pl (friko.onet.pl [194.204.191.9]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA05897 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 06:53:33 +0100 (MET)
  22639. Received: from friko.onet.pl (ppp91.zgora.tpnet.pl [195.116.244.91])
  22640.           by friko.onet.pl (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP
  22641.       id GAA20698 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 06:41:14 +0100
  22642. From: Irek <irekm@kki.net.pl>
  22643. Reply-To: irekm@kki.net.pl
  22644. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  22645. Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 15:34:47 -0500
  22646. Message-ID: <yam7381.2362.5283960@kki.net.pl>
  22647. In-Reply-To: <yam7380.1269.1748878160@smtp.polbox.com>
  22648. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.3a [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  22649. Subject: Re: Katalog =?iso-8859-2?Q?kt=F3ry?= i jest, i go nie ma...
  22650. MIME-Version: 1.0
  22651. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  22652. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  22653.  
  22654. Dnia 17-Mar-98, Jaroslaw Waligorski napisa=EE:
  22655. >CZE=D4C !!!
  22656.  
  22657. >W zwi=E2zku z dzia=EEaniem pewnego programu pad=EEa mi na twardym walida=
  22658. cja.
  22659. >Kiedy ju=FB si=EB naprawi=EEa, okaza=EEo si=EB =FBe jeden z katalog=F3w =
  22660. jest =
  22661.  
  22662. >niemo=FBliwy do usuni=EBcia. Tzn. ikona jest widziana przez system, lecz=
  22663.  
  22664. >pr=F3ba skasowania go np. spod FileMastera ko=EFczy si=EB wy=F4wietlenie=
  22665. m =
  22666.  
  22667. >komunikatu =FBe niby go usun=E2=EE lecz dalej go wy=F4wietla.Z kolei pr=F3=
  22668. ba
  22669. >otwarcia ko=EFczy si=EB komunitatem "Lock() Failed !!! .... obiekt nie
  22670. >znaleziony".Katalogu narz=EBdnego te=FB si=EB przez to nie da usuna=EA.
  22671. >Przypuszczam =FBe kiedy naprawia=EE walidacje, co=F4 mu si=EB pokopa=EEo=
  22672. =2E..
  22673.  
  22674. Zapu=B6=E6 Quarterbacka i wybierz opcj=EA Analize & Repair Volume. Po spr=
  22675. awdzeniu
  22676. ca=B3ej partycji i wyj=B6ciu z QB b=EAdziesz m=F3g=B3 skasowa=E6 taki kat=
  22677. alog (te=BF
  22678. to kiedy=B6 mia=B3em, i to kilka razy - ale to dzia=B3a :))
  22679.  
  22680. Hej!
  22681.  
  22682. -- =
  22683.  
  22684. e-mail: irekm@friko.onet.pl      __
  22685. e-mail: irekm@kki.net.pl        // \   HTTP: on prepare
  22686. *Easy work?   - on Amiga*         \__          A1k2+850MB+4MB+CDx8+28800
  22687. *Best system? - on Amiga*            \
  22688. *BIG TROUBLE? - on PC...*         \_// NOWMAN - Amiga Fan 4ever !
  22689.  
  22690. From owner-amigapl  Thu Mar 19 07:20:12 1998
  22691. Received: from friko.onet.pl (friko.onet.pl [194.204.191.9]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA05899 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 06:53:36 +0100 (MET)
  22692. Received: from friko.onet.pl (ppp91.zgora.tpnet.pl [195.116.244.91])
  22693.           by friko.onet.pl (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP
  22694.       id GAA20701 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 06:41:17 +0100
  22695. From: Irek <irekm@kki.net.pl>
  22696. Reply-To: Irek <irekm@kki.net.pl>
  22697. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  22698. Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 15:35:00 -0500
  22699. Message-ID: <yam7381.17.5283960@kki.net.pl>
  22700. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.3a [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  22701. Subject: Re: Ogonki w WorthWordzie 6.0.....
  22702. MIME-Version: 1.0
  22703. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  22704. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  22705.  
  22706. Dnia 17-Mar-98, Jaroslaw Waligorski napisa=EE:
  22707. >CZE=D4C ALL !!!!
  22708.  
  22709. >Mam takie pytanko: Co zrobi=EA =FBeby WordWorth 6.0 widzia=EE polskie
  22710. >ogonki w czcionkach True Type ? Kiedy=F4 u=FBywa=EEem wersji 4.0 SE i
  22711. >ona widzia=EEa polskie ogonki w TTypach  bez problem=F3w.Chodzi oto =
  22712.  
  22713. >=FBe zale=FBy mi bardzo na fontach TimesNewRomanCE i ArialCE bo  s=E2 =
  22714.  
  22715. >naprawd=EB extra....
  22716.  
  22717. >Pozdrowienia 4 all !!!
  22718. Najlepiej za pomoc=B1 TypeSmith'a przekonwertowa=E6 :))
  22719. A propos, ja od pocz=B1tku pr=F3bowa=B3em u=BFywa=E6 czcionek *.ttf na WW=
  22720.  i nigdy
  22721. mi si=EA to nie uda=B3o (zawsze pisa=B3 =BFe brakuje mu pliku kt=F3ry obs=
  22722. =B3uguje
  22723. ten rodzaj czcionki i qpa), ciekawe jak Ci si=EA to uda=B3o.
  22724.  
  22725. ps. Sprawd=BC wersj=EA WW4, czy gdzie=B6 w katalogu jest digitatruetype.l=
  22726. ibrary
  22727. (bo jej szuka), WW potrzebuje w=B3asnie tej biblioteki do czytania czcion=
  22728. ek
  22729. *.ttf (BTW nigdzie jej wcze=B6niej nie widzia=B3em, nawet w wersji 4SE :(=
  22730. ((  )
  22731.  
  22732. Hej!
  22733.  
  22734. -- =
  22735.  
  22736. e-mail: irekm@friko.onet.pl      __
  22737. e-mail: irekm@kki.net.pl        // \   HTTP: on prepare
  22738. *Easy work?   - on Amiga*         \__          A1k2+850MB+4MB+CDx8+28800
  22739. *Best system? - on Amiga*            \
  22740. *BIG TROUBLE? - on PC...*         \_// NOWMAN - Amiga Fan 4ever !
  22741.  
  22742. From owner-amigapl  Thu Mar 19 07:20:18 1998
  22743. Received: from student.uci.agh.edu.pl (ramix@student.uci.agh.edu.pl [149.156.98.60]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA05893 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 06:52:32 +0100 (MET)
  22744. Received: from localhost (ramix@localhost) by student.uci.agh.edu.pl (8.8.6/8.8.5/ts-tmpl.970124) with SMTP
  22745.        id GAA09469 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 06:53:12 +0100 (MET)
  22746. Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 06:53:11 +0100 (MET)
  22747. From: Grzegorz Junka <ramix@student.uci.agh.edu.pl>
  22748. X-Sender: ramix@student
  22749. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  22750. Subject: Re: Amiga nadal ma sie dobrze
  22751. In-Reply-To: <yam7382.1300.122360920@mail.union.org.pl>
  22752. Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.95.980319064938.9334A-100000@student>
  22753. MIME-Version: 1.0
  22754. Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-2
  22755. Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE
  22756.  
  22757. > > mi przyszlo do glowy. Fajnie by bylo, gdyby IBM zbankrutowal i kazda fi=
  22758. rma
  22759. > > produkujaca plyty do pc wypuscila nowe nowoczesne modele ze swoim wlasn=
  22760. ym
  22761. > > nowym slotem rozszerzen - niekompatybilnym z zadnym innym :)
  22762.  
  22763. > 2. Jakby nie by=B3o, IBM jest wsp=F3=B3tw=F3rc=B1 PowerPC, wi=EAc co ty o=
  22764. d nich chcesz?
  22765.  
  22766. Na wykladzie z architektur komputerow to mi nawet powiedzieli, ze nie
  22767. wspoltworca, ale wrecz glownym pomyslodawca, koniem napedowym i
  22768. finansowym. Czyz to nie ironia losu?
  22769.  
  22770. --
  22771. ,x80Y^"=09Member of Amiga Promotion Group and fanatic AMIGA user
  22772. $0+'=09Grzegorz Junka "Bastian"
  22773. 08=09ramix@student.uci.agh.edu.pl    bastian@apg.plukwa.pdi.net
  22774. 0'
  22775. 9=09A1200Inf 040/40Bliz 32Mb 1.6Gb 12x 1942S CN40BC
  22776.  
  22777. From owner-amigapl  Thu Mar 19 08:49:57 1998
  22778. Received: from piast.pertus.com.pl (root@piast.pertus.com.pl [195.116.191.6]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA06097 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 08:34:28 +0100 (MET)
  22779. Received: from default (ppp244.legnica.tpnet.pl [195.116.255.244])
  22780.     by piast.pertus.com.pl (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA08177
  22781.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 08:37:59 +0100
  22782. Message-Id: <199803190737.IAA08177@piast.pertus.com.pl>
  22783. From: "Arkadiusz Winiarek" <sharky@pertus.com.pl>
  22784. To: <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  22785. Subject: biblioteka
  22786. Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 08:36:56 +0100
  22787. X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
  22788. X-Priority: 3
  22789. X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1157
  22790. MIME-Version: 1.0
  22791. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2
  22792. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  22793.  
  22794. Sie macie!
  22795.  
  22796. Szukam biblioteki digitatruetype.library w wersji co najmniej 2.0
  22797. Je=B6li kto=B6 ma, to prosz=EA na priva
  22798.  
  22799. See ya!=09
  22800.  
  22801.          "Sharky" Arkadiusz Winiarek
  22802.                  Happy Amiga User!
  22803. A-1200T/2.1GB/1260/50/32MB Fast RAM
  22804.                  Jawor woj. legnickie
  22805. From owner-amigapl  Thu Mar 19 09:49:57 1998
  22806. Received: from LODZ2 (lodz2.p.lodz.pl [193.59.44.68]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA06170 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 09:26:24 +0100 (MET)
  22807. Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 09:26:24 +0100 (MET)
  22808. Message-Id: <199803190826.JAA06170@amiga.com.pl>
  22809. Received: from ck-st1.p.lodz.pl by LODZ2 (MX V3.2) with SMTP; Thu, 19 Mar 1998
  22810.           09:27:00 CET
  22811. X-Sender: kaczus@kki.net.pl
  22812. X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2
  22813. Mime-Version: 1.0
  22814. Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
  22815. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  22816. From: Tomasz Kaczanowski <kaczus@kki.net.pl>
  22817. Subject: Re: AmigaOS (bylo zupelnie co innego)
  22818.  
  22819. At 16:14 98-03-18 +0100, you wrote:
  22820.  
  22821. >Facet, bo nie wiem. Jestes za czy przeciwko temu co napisalem? :>
  22822.  
  22823. /me uwaza, ze ochrona pamieci powinna byc jedynie jako opcja ...
  22824.  
  22825. Kaczus
  22826.  
  22827. From owner-amigapl  Thu Mar 19 09:50:05 1998
  22828. Received: from LODZ2 (lodz2.p.lodz.pl [193.59.44.68]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA06164 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 09:21:31 +0100 (MET)
  22829. Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 09:21:31 +0100 (MET)
  22830. Message-Id: <199803190821.JAA06164@amiga.com.pl>
  22831. Received: from ck-st1.p.lodz.pl by LODZ2 (MX V3.2) with SMTP; Thu, 19 Mar 1998
  22832.           09:22:08 CET
  22833. X-Sender: kaczus@kki.net.pl
  22834. X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2
  22835. Mime-Version: 1.0
  22836. Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
  22837. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  22838. From: Tomasz Kaczanowski <kaczus@kki.net.pl>
  22839. Subject: Re: re[2]: mUSASHI and AmigaOS
  22840.  
  22841.  
  22842. >Np. jakie ograniczenia ? Szczegolnie interesuja mnie te podobne do TP ...
  22843.  
  22844. nie wymienie wszystkich - odam jedynie kilka przykladow, niewygody pracy
  22845. i ograniczen ...
  22846.  
  22847. Brak mozliwosci (przy kozystaniu z wizardow) wstawienia definicji funkcji
  22848. globalnej
  22849. w dowolnym miejscu)
  22850. Brak dziedziczenia wielobazowego (w obiektowce)
  22851. i jeszcze pare niedociagniec pomniejszych
  22852.  
  22853. Jezeli chodzi o wisualnosc, to ja pomijam tu sposob tworzenia aplikacji
  22854. wizzardami, bo to rzecz gustu - ale przede wszystkim brak wisualnej obslugi
  22855. projektu, i w sumie niemoznosc (bez przeczytania odpowiedniej cegielki)
  22856. wstawienia do projektu wlasnej biblioteki nie wygenerowanej wizzardem firmy
  22857. m$ ....
  22858.  
  22859. ale dosc o tym, bo to nie jest kanal M$ i jego badziewnych produktow, tylko
  22860. kanal
  22861. amigowy
  22862.  
  22863. Kaczus of BlaBla
  22864.  
  22865. From owner-amigapl  Thu Mar 19 09:50:12 1998
  22866. Received: from mops.uci.agh.edu.pl (lemi@mops.uci.agh.edu.pl [149.156.98.196]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA06174 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 09:29:25 +0100 (MET)
  22867. Received: from localhost (lemi@localhost)
  22868.     by mops.uci.agh.edu.pl (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA20098
  22869.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 08:30:16 GMT
  22870. Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 09:30:16 +0100 (MET)
  22871. From: "LeMUr of blabla (Lukasz Prokulski)" <lemi@mops.uci.agh.edu.pl>
  22872. Sender: lemi@mops.uci.agh.edu.pl
  22873. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  22874. Subject: Re: Problem: Apollo 040
  22875. In-Reply-To: <yam7381.1011.17868568@www.tpnet.pl>
  22876. Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.980319092926.19793A-100000@mops>
  22877. MIME-Version: 1.0
  22878. Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
  22879. Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE
  22880.  
  22881. On Wed, 18 Mar 1998, Krzysztof Michalski wrote:
  22882. > Kolega kupi=B3 za moim przyk=B3adem kart=EA Apollo 1240/40, 32 MB EDO.
  22883. > Od samego pocz=B1tku wieczne resety, walidacje oraz dyskoteka.=20
  22884. [cut]
  22885. > Pomocy! Kto wie o co chodzi? /Jest nas coraz mniej!/
  22886.  
  22887. =09Czyzby plyta Amigi to rev1.1b? Jesli tak to niestety - nie bedzie
  22888. dzialac poprawnie z Apollo... :(
  22889.  
  22890.  /************************************************************************
  22891.  *    LeMUr of blabla              AMiGA 1k2 user, C-programmer, boss of *
  22892.  * ./___ _    _____. ./___ _    _____.  IZViestia magazine, text-writter *
  22893.  * |____\/____\____| |____\/____\____|  E-MAIL: lemi@mops.uci.agh.edu.pl *
  22894.  * blabla - this means system friendly    HTTP:  www.gliwice.pl/~thufor/ *
  22895.  *********** AmiNET:util/cli/2b_Srch11DEMO.lha - get it now! ************/
  22896.  
  22897. From owner-amigapl  Thu Mar 19 10:50:16 1998
  22898. Received: from student.uci.agh.edu.pl (ramix@student.uci.agh.edu.pl [149.156.98.60]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA06415 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 10:47:21 +0100 (MET)
  22899. Received: from localhost (ramix@localhost) by student.uci.agh.edu.pl (8.8.6/8.8.5/ts-tmpl.970124) with SMTP
  22900.        id KAA23247 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 10:47:56 +0100 (MET)
  22901. Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 10:47:55 +0100 (MET)
  22902. From: Grzegorz Junka <ramix@student.uci.agh.edu.pl>
  22903. X-Sender: ramix@student
  22904. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  22905. Subject: Re: AmigaOS (bylo zupelnie co innego)
  22906. In-Reply-To: <199803190826.JAA06170@amiga.com.pl>
  22907. Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.95.980319104611.21576B-100000@student>
  22908. MIME-Version: 1.0
  22909. Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
  22910.  
  22911. > >Facet, bo nie wiem. Jestes za czy przeciwko temu co napisalem? :>
  22912. > 
  22913. > /me uwaza, ze ochrona pamieci powinna byc jedynie jako opcja ...
  22914.  
  22915. To moze byc trudne, bo jak wiesz, wiazalo by sie ze znacznymi zmianami w
  22916. systemie. Opcja moze wiec byc caly Kickstart4.0 np, gdzie jeden ma ochrone
  22917. a drugi nie ma. Przyznasz, ze to dosc glupi pomysl. Moze wiec alternatywa
  22918. bedzie po prostu, albo ochrona, albo system 3.1?
  22919.  
  22920. --
  22921. ,x80Y^"    Member of Amiga Promotion Group and fanatic AMIGA user
  22922. $0+'    Grzegorz Junka "Bastian"
  22923. 08    ramix@student.uci.agh.edu.pl    bastian@apg.plukwa.pdi.net
  22924. 0'
  22925. 9    A1200Inf 040/40Bliz 32Mb 1.6Gb 12x 1942S CN40BC
  22926.  
  22927. From owner-amigapl  Thu Mar 19 11:50:04 1998
  22928. Received: from host.pkp.wroc.pl (host.pkp.wroc.pl [156.17.194.29]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA06525 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 11:46:41 +0100 (MET)
  22929. Received: from localhost (tygrysek@localhost)
  22930.     by host.pkp.wroc.pl (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA01391
  22931.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 11:47:52 +0100 (CET)
  22932. Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 11:47:52 +0100 (CET)
  22933. From: Piotr Walaszek <tygrysek@host.pkp.wroc.pl>
  22934. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  22935. Subject: Re: Odp: znikajace przyciski
  22936. In-Reply-To: <199803181032.LAA22170@kinga.cyf-kr.edu.pl>
  22937. Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.3.95q.980319114657.1372B-100000@host>
  22938. MIME-Version: 1.0
  22939. Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
  22940.  
  22941. > >(cgxv41_r69f.lha), wszystko wrocilo do normy :O
  22942. > >Czyzby jakis maly blad w nowszej wersji ?
  22943. > >Czy komus tez sie tak stalo ?
  22944. > A nie masz ty przypadkiem VisualPrefs. U mnie on byl tego przyczyna. Nie mialem czasu sprawdzic dlaczego ale po usunieciu programu przyciski wrocily na swoje miejsce.
  22945.  
  22946. Nie mam Visuala... Hmmrrrr
  22947.  
  22948.  
  22949. From owner-amigapl  Thu Mar 19 12:19:58 1998
  22950. Received: from host.pkp.wroc.pl (host.pkp.wroc.pl [156.17.194.29]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA06535 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 11:50:03 +0100 (MET)
  22951. Received: from localhost (tygrysek@localhost)
  22952.     by host.pkp.wroc.pl (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA01402
  22953.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 11:51:13 +0100 (CET)
  22954. Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 11:51:13 +0100 (CET)
  22955. From: Piotr Walaszek <tygrysek@host.pkp.wroc.pl>
  22956. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  22957. Subject: Re: Re[2]: PPC do A1200
  22958. In-Reply-To: <yam7381.1083.3940872@iftia6.univ.gda.pl>
  22959. Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.3.95q.980319115012.1372C-100000@host>
  22960. MIME-Version: 1.0
  22961. Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
  22962.  
  22963. Grrrrrr, :)
  22964. > Maja zlacze do kart BVisionPPC, co do mieszczenia sie, nie
  22965. wiem.
  22966.  
  22967. Samo PPC603e z Dwoma Simmami miesci sie bez wiekszych problemow
  22968.  
  22969. From owner-amigapl  Thu Mar 19 12:20:06 1998
  22970. Received: from host.pkp.wroc.pl (host.pkp.wroc.pl [156.17.194.29]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA06546 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 11:51:08 +0100 (MET)
  22971. Received: from localhost (tygrysek@localhost)
  22972.     by host.pkp.wroc.pl (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA01413
  22973.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 11:52:14 +0100 (CET)
  22974. Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 11:52:14 +0100 (CET)
  22975. From: Piotr Walaszek <tygrysek@host.pkp.wroc.pl>
  22976. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  22977. Subject: Re: Fotki do Yam2
  22978. In-Reply-To: <yam7381.1757.3568808@mail.silesia.pik-net.pl>
  22979. Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.3.95q.980319115142.1372D-100000@host>
  22980. MIME-Version: 1.0
  22981. Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
  22982.  
  22983.  
  22984. Grrrrrr, :)
  22985. > Kto #przysle# lub #przyslal #swoje FOTO moze dostac u mnie 
  22986. > kolekcje Fotek do Yama 2.
  22987.  
  22988. A juz zostal wydany ?
  22989.  
  22990.  
  22991.  
  22992. From owner-amigapl  Thu Mar 19 12:49:58 1998
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  22998. From: "Marcin Szymañski" <motorbik@polbox.com>
  22999. To: "AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi" <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  23000. Subject: Sprzedam MERLINa - info 2
  23001. Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 12:10:10 +0100
  23002. X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
  23003. X-Priority: 3
  23004. X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161
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  23006. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
  23007. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  23008.  
  23009. Dodatkowe info
  23010.  
  23011. W/g posiadanych przeze mnie informacji MERLIN dziala pod EGS'em, P96 i =
  23012. Parbench'em.
  23013. CGX go nie obsluguje - ani v3, ani v2.
  23014. ----------------------
  23015. Marcin "XMS" Soko=B3owski Amiga FAN ForEver
  23016. http://www.complex.com.pl/~zbylu/xms/xms001.html
  23017. 600user@kki.net.pl
  23018.  
  23019. From owner-amigapl  Thu Mar 19 13:19:59 1998
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  23027. From: Artur Muszynski <amst@union.org.pl>
  23028. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  23029. Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 13:08:31 +0100
  23030. Message-ID: <yam7382.1559.122893136@mail.union.org.pl>
  23031. In-Reply-To: <199803190821.JAA06164@amiga.com.pl>
  23032. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  23033. Organization: Union
  23034. Subject: Re: C
  23035. MIME-Version: 1.0
  23036. X-ISO-CONVERTED: Yam_ISO2 1.05 (02.11.97) (c) Silver Dream !
  23037. X-YAMISO-UPDATE: ftp://wfmh.man.szczecin.pl/pub/yam_iso2/
  23038. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  23039. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  23040.  
  23041. On 19-Mar-98, Tomasz Kaczanowski wrote:
  23042.  
  23043. > >Np. jakie ograniczenia ? Szczegolnie interesuja mnie te podobne do TP =
  23044. =2E..
  23045. > nie wymienie wszystkich - odam jedynie kilka przykladow, niewygody prac=
  23046. y
  23047. > i ograniczen ...
  23048. > Brak mozliwosci (przy kozystaniu z wizardow) wstawienia definicji funkc=
  23049. ji
  23050. > globalnej w dowolnym miejscu)
  23051.  
  23052.  
  23053. A do czego masz edytor? Wizard nie napisze za ciebie ca=B3ego programu.
  23054.  
  23055. > Brak dziedziczenia wielobazowego (w obiektowce)
  23056.  
  23057. To jest nieprawda.
  23058.  
  23059. > i jeszcze pare niedociagniec pomniejszych
  23060.  
  23061. To zawsze si=EA znajdzie. BTW kto wie, =BFe Visual C++ pochodzi w prostej=
  23062.  linii
  23063. od Lattice C (jest to jeden z wielu nabytk=F3w billa) ?
  23064.  
  23065. -- =
  23066.  
  23067.  
  23068.    // Artur Muszynski (AMST/UNION) A4000/040/EGS
  23069.  \//  e-mail: amst@union.org.pl
  23070.  
  23071. From owner-amigapl  Thu Mar 19 13:20:12 1998
  23072. Received: from plus.ds14.agh.edu.pl (bastian@plus.ds14.agh.edu.pl [149.156.196.254]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA06787 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 13:05:52 +0100 (MET)
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  23075.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 13:08:15 +0100
  23076. Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 13:08:15 +0100 (CET)
  23077. From: Grzegorz Junka <bastian@plus.ds14.agh.edu.pl>
  23078. X-Sender: bastian@plus
  23079. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  23080. Subject: klawiatura a2000
  23081. Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.980319130759.8019A-100000@plus>
  23082. MIME-Version: 1.0
  23083. Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
  23084.  
  23085.  
  23086. Ma ktos do sprzedania jak w sigu?
  23087.  
  23088. --
  23089. ,x80Y^"    Member of Amiga Promotion Group and fanatic AMIGA user
  23090. $0+'    Grzegorz Junka "Bastian"
  23091. 08    ramix@student.uci.agh.edu.pl    bastian@apg.plukwa.pdi.net
  23092. 0'
  23093. 9    A1200Inf 040/40Bliz 32Mb 1.6Gb 12x 1942S CN40BC
  23094.  
  23095. From owner-amigapl  Thu Mar 19 13:49:58 1998
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  23098.     (1.38.193.4/16.2) id AA07426; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 13:55:00 +0100
  23099. From: Marcin Ostrowski <amizaur@friko.onet.pl>
  23100. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  23101. Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 23:42:59 +0100
  23102. Message-Id: <yam7381.2990.3941424@iftia6.univ.gda.pl>
  23103. In-Reply-To: <yam7381.1011.17868568@www.tpnet.pl>
  23104. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  23105. Subject: Re: Problem: Apollo 040
  23106. Mime-Version: 1.0
  23107. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  23108. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  23109.  
  23110. Dnia 18-Mar-98, Krzysztof Michalski napisa=EE:
  23111. >Witam Wszystkich !
  23112.  
  23113. >Jego karta dzia=B3a na innych komputerach dobrze nawet z tym EDO.
  23114. >Jego Amisia bez karty chodzi bez zastrze=BFe=F1.
  23115. >Nie bior=EA pod uwag=EA z=B3ej wersji p=B3yty g=B3=F3wnej Amisi,
  23116. >gdy=BF ja mia=B3em identyczne problemy, kt=F3re w 90% znikn=EA=B3y
  23117. >po w=B3o=BFeniu do E/Boxa (czasami pojawiaj=B1 si=EA plamy,
  23118. >kreski na ekranie, resety). Dwa komputery ze z=B3=B1 p=B3yt=B1?
  23119.  
  23120. Jesli karta dziala dobrze na innych komputerach, a komputer
  23121. dobrze bez karty, to sam sobie odpowiedziales. Istota wady
  23122. jest nadal niejasna, ale wiemy juz ze to komputer. Moze =
  23123.  
  23124. doprowadzic napiecie +5 bezposrednio na karte, moze przeczyscic
  23125. zlacze, moze faktycznie cos z plyta i nie zadziala...
  23126.  
  23127. Na razie!
  23128.  
  23129. -- =
  23130.  
  23131.  
  23132.                              Marcin Ostrowski
  23133.                        A1200/030/882/28/10Mb/170Mb
  23134.                           High-Radiation C1085S
  23135.                                modem 28800
  23136.  
  23137.  
  23138.                                     mailto:amizaur@box43.gnet.pl
  23139.  
  23140. From owner-amigapl  Thu Mar 19 13:50:07 1998
  23141. Received: from gryzmak.lodz.pdi.net (gryzmak.lodz.pdi.net [195.116.162.1]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA06916 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 13:31:44 +0100 (MET)
  23142. Received: (from arturp@localhost)
  23143.     by gryzmak.lodz.pdi.net (8.8.7/2.1.1/L) id NAA22094;
  23144.     Thu, 19 Mar 1998 13:30:27 +0100
  23145. Message-ID: <19980319133009.03520@plukwa.pdi.net>
  23146. Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 13:30:12 +0100
  23147. From: Artur Pietruk <arturp@plukwa.pdi.net>
  23148. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  23149. Subject: Re: Ogonki w WorthWordzie 6.0.....
  23150. References: <350F9B7C.2ADF@polbox.com>
  23151. Mime-Version: 1.0
  23152. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
  23153. X-Mailer: Mutt 0.83
  23154. In-Reply-To: <350F9B7C.2ADF@polbox.com>; from Juha on Wed, Mar 18, 1998 at 11:01:32AM +0100
  23155.  
  23156. On Wed, Mar 18, 1998 at 11:01:32AM +0100, Juha wrote:
  23157. > P.S. 2 Sorry za glupie rekalmy  w liscie. Polbox Suxx
  23158.  
  23159.     Zmien serwer SMTP w konfiguracji mailera z polboxu na pierwszy
  23160. lepszy inny. Najlepiej jakis tpnetu, jesli laczysz sie przez telekomune.
  23161.  
  23162.     Pozdrawia:
  23163.  
  23164. -- 
  23165. -------------------------------------------------------------------
  23166. - Who  : Artur Pietruk - WebMaster @ PDi - www.pdi.net -      /// -
  23167. - Email: arturp@pdi.net IRC: APair TEL: +48 44 7140906 -     ///  -
  23168. - Snail: ul.11 listopada 33a/19 97-140 Koluszki POLAND - \\\///   -
  23169. - Using: AMIGA 4000/40 CV64-3D, A1240T                 -  \\//    -
  23170.  
  23171.         PGP public key - finger arturp@gryzmak.lodz.pdi.net
  23172.                 "My webpage exists - I've seen it!"
  23173. From owner-amigapl  Thu Mar 19 15:49:58 1998
  23174. Received: from LODZ2 (lodz2.p.lodz.pl [193.59.44.68]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA07256 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 15:29:25 +0100 (MET)
  23175. Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 15:29:25 +0100 (MET)
  23176. Message-Id: <199803191429.PAA07256@amiga.com.pl>
  23177. Received: from ck-st1.p.lodz.pl by LODZ2 (MX V3.2) with SMTP; Thu, 19 Mar 1998
  23178.           15:29:54 CET
  23179. X-Sender: kaczus@kki.net.pl
  23180. X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2
  23181. Mime-Version: 1.0
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  23183. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  23184. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  23185. From: Tomasz Kaczanowski <kaczus@kki.net.pl>
  23186. Subject: Re: C
  23187.  
  23188. At 13:08 98-03-19 +0100, you wrote:
  23189. >A do czego masz edytor? Wizard nie napisze za ciebie ca=B3ego programu.
  23190.  
  23191. chodzi o deklaracje  - w edytorze wlasna funkcje jako globalna nie da sie
  23192. zdefiniowac w dowolnym miejscu - wyrzuci  blad....
  23193.  
  23194. >> Brak dziedziczenia wielobazowego (w obiektowce)
  23195. >
  23196. >To jest nieprawda.
  23197.  
  23198. Jak to nie, jak myslisz czemu musialem przerabiac program na laborki ???
  23199.  
  23200. >To zawsze si=EA znajdzie. BTW kto wie, =BFe Visual C++ pochodzi w prostej=
  23201.  linii
  23202. >od Lattice C (jest to jeden z wielu nabytk=F3w billa) ?
  23203.  
  23204. Od czego by nie pochodzil - Microsoft jak zwykle skopal sprawe ...
  23205.  
  23206. Kaczus of BlaBla
  23207.  
  23208. From owner-amigapl  Thu Mar 19 16:19:59 1998
  23209. Received: from server.fiber.net.pl (server.fiber.net.pl [195.117.208.101]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA07363 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 15:59:32 +0100 (MET)
  23210. Received: from server.fiber.net.pl (async50.fiber.net.pl [195.117.208.50])
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  23213.           Thu, 19 Mar 1998 15:59:38 +0100
  23214. From: Marcin Orlowski <carlos@wfmh.org.pl>
  23215. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  23216. Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 13:14:15 +0100
  23217. Message-ID: <yam7382.793.140501768@server.fiber.net.pl>
  23218. In-Reply-To: <yam7382.1543.119371512@kinga>
  23219. X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 beta10 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
  23220. Organization: W.F.M.H.   (http://wfmh.org.pl)
  23221. Subject: Re: Optymalizacja 040
  23222. MIME-Version: 1.0
  23223. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  23224. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  23225.  
  23226. Dnia 18-Mar-98, Wojtek Jaworski napisa=B3:
  23227.  
  23228. > Mo=BFecie mi napisa=E6 jak najlepiej i czym zoptymalizowa=E6 =B6rodowis=
  23229. ko dla
  23230. > procesora 040.
  23231.  
  23232. Co takiego??
  23233.  
  23234. -- =
  23235.  
  23236.  My software never has bugs. It just develops random features.
  23237.  
  23238.  Marcin                              http://wfmh.org.pl/~carlos/
  23239.                                        mailto:carlos@wfmh.org.pl
  23240.  
  23241.  
  23242. From owner-amigapl  Thu Mar 19 16:20:07 1998
  23243. Received: from server.fiber.net.pl (server.fiber.net.pl [195.117.208.101]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA07361 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 15:59:27 +0100 (MET)
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  23247.           Thu, 19 Mar 1998 15:59:34 +0100
  23248. From: Marcin Orlowski <carlos@wfmh.org.pl>
  23249. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  23250. Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 12:04:13 +0100
  23251. Message-ID: <yam7382.686.140593088@server.fiber.net.pl>
  23252. In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.3.95.980316234936.19502J-100000@student>
  23253. X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 beta10 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
  23254. Organization: W.F.M.H.   (http://wfmh.org.pl)
  23255. Subject: Re: mUSASHI and AmigaOS
  23256. MIME-Version: 1.0
  23257. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  23258. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  23259.  
  23260. Dnia 16-Mar-98, Grzegorz Junka napisa=B3:
  23261.  
  23262. > system 4.0 ochrone pamieci juz ma miec. Czy ktos to potwierdzi? Bo jesl=
  23263. i
  23264. > nie, to caly ten AmigaOS w dobie PPC i nowych pre/boxow wlasciwie NIE M=
  23265. A
  23266. > SENSU!!!
  23267.  
  23268. Bzdura. Do tej pory jakos mia=B3 a teraz nagle przesta=B3? I PPC ma tu
  23269. raczej niewiele do ochrony pami=EAci.
  23270.  =
  23271.  
  23272. -- =
  23273.  
  23274.  My software never has bugs. It just develops random features.
  23275.  
  23276.  Marcin                              http://wfmh.org.pl/~carlos/
  23277.                                        mailto:carlos@wfmh.org.pl
  23278.  
  23279.  
  23280. From owner-amigapl  Thu Mar 19 17:49:58 1998
  23281. Received: from arka.mtl.pl (root@mtl.pl [195.116.4.4]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA07747 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 17:48:54 +0100 (MET)
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  23283. Message-Id: <199803191648.RAA02831@arka.mtl.pl>
  23284. From: "Adam Zaparcinski" <gielda@mtl.pl>
  23285. To: "Lista dyskusyjna uzytkownikow komputera AMIGA AMIGAPL" <AMIGA@PLEARN.EDU.PL>,
  23286.         "AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi" <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  23287. Subject: DEV: rysowanie fontow.
  23288. Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 17:35:30 +0100
  23289. X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
  23290. X-Priority: 3
  23291. X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155
  23292. MIME-Version: 1.0
  23293. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2
  23294. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
  23295.  
  23296. W zasadzie nie potrzebuje tego do do zadnego programu obecnie ale tak mnie
  23297. zaciekawilo: Czy jest jakis ladny systemowy sposob aby wypisac jakis tekst w
  23298. oknie nie poziomo ale pionowo czyli obrocony o 90 stopni? Albo do gory nogami?
  23299. W sumie mozna by wyrysowac do rastportu w pamieci a pozniej obrocic i
  23300. przekopiowac ale wydaje mi sie to troche pracochlonne. I jeszcze jedno: Czy
  23301. dalo by sie to jakos elegancko zrobic w MUI? Od pewnego czasu chodzi mi po
  23302. glowie podklasa klasy group, ktora mozna by stronicowac rowniez w pionie tak,
  23303. aby zakladki wystawaly z boku. Wlasnie w tym kontekscie zaczalem sie
  23304. zastanawiac nad pionowym rysowaniem tekstu. Mysle, ze dosc ladnie by to
  23305. wygladalo.
  23306.  
  23307. Co o tym myslicie?
  23308.  
  23309. Adam 'Sherwood' Zaparciñski
  23310. mailto: gielda@mtl.pl
  23311. From owner-amigapl  Thu Mar 19 17:50:07 1998
  23312. Received: from amiga.org.pl (ppp@pppa217.szczecin.tpnet.pl [194.204.141.217]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA07721 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 17:28:14 +0100 (MET)
  23313. From: Bogdan Rzeszutko <captainr@amiga.org.pl>
  23314. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  23315. Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 17:18:12 +0100
  23316. Message-ID: <yam7382.646.2013859568@amiga.org.pl>
  23317. In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.3.95.980319092926.19793A-100000@mops>
  23318. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  23319. Subject: Re: Problem: Apollo 040
  23320. MIME-Version: 1.0
  23321. X-ISO-CONVERTED: Yam_ISO2 1.06 (17.11.97) (c) Silver Dream !
  23322. X-YAMISO-UPDATE: ftp://wfmh.org.pl/pub/yam_iso2/
  23323. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  23324. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  23325.  
  23326. Dnia 19-Mar-98, LeMUr of blabla (Lukasz Prokulski) napisa=B3:
  23327.  
  23328. >> Kolega kupi=B3 za moim przyk=B3adem kart=E6 Apollo 1240/40, 32 MB EDO.=
  23329.  
  23330. >> Od samego pocz=B1tku wieczne resety, walidacje oraz dyskoteka. =
  23331.  
  23332. >> Pomocy! Kto wie o co chodzi? =
  23333.  
  23334.  
  23335. >Czyzby plyta Amigi to rev1.1b? Jesli tak to niestety - nie bedzie
  23336. >dzialac poprawnie z Apollo...
  23337.  
  23338. W mojej Amidze jest obecnie trzecia plyta. Jest to dokladnie rev1.1b.
  23339. Testowalem wlasnie ta karte kilka godzin. Zadnych dziwnych zachowan.
  23340. Wrecz przeciwnie. Jeszcze troche i sam bym taka kupil. A koledze robilism=
  23341. y
  23342. juz wszystko (wlacznie z wymian=B1 dysku) , w koncu wybuchla.
  23343. Wiem,ze to smieszne, ale prawdziwe.
  23344. Oddal ja dzisiaj tam gdzie kupil. Pewie tez bedzie walczyl kilka miesiecy=
  23345. =2E
  23346.  
  23347. Pierwsza  moja plyta zle pracowala z Elboxem 4MB, druga z Blizzardem 030/=
  23348. 50
  23349.  (Alicja si=EA grzala), w koncu z trzecia dlugo mam spokoj.
  23350.  
  23351. Mam za to inny problem, o ktorym pisalem, ale nikt konkretnie sie nie
  23352. wypowiedzial.
  23353. Wlozylem do Blizzarda SCSI, przekladalem zworki i niestety, nawet system =
  23354. nie
  23355. chce sie wczytac. Nie trawi BlizzMagic'a, Prepareemul lub nie widzi drugi=
  23356. ego
  23357. dysku. Bez tych nakladek pracuje normalnie. Ale jes przeciez Mac.
  23358. Kosci przekladalem (16MB SIMM i 32MB EDO). Narazie pracuje bez SCSI na 32=
  23359.  MB.
  23360.  
  23361.                                      Pozdrowienia.
  23362.  
  23363. -- =
  23364.  
  23365.        /Bogdan Rzeszutko/
  23366. mailto: *captainr@amiga.org.pl*
  23367. #A1200 030/50 HD1280/1080 RAM48 CD24 USR56k# =
  23368.  
  23369. __
  23370.  
  23371. From owner-amigapl  Thu Mar 19 17:50:16 1998
  23372. Received: from arka.mtl.pl (root@mtl.pl [195.116.4.4]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA07741 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 17:48:41 +0100 (MET)
  23373. Received: from gie-da (rmod16.mtl.pl [195.116.164.18]) by arka.mtl.pl (8.8.7/8.6.12) with ESMTP id RAA02803 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 17:48:05 +0100 (MET)
  23374. Message-Id: <199803191648.RAA02803@arka.mtl.pl>
  23375. From: "Adam Zaparcinski" <gielda@mtl.pl>
  23376. To: "AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi" <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  23377. Subject: Polskie literki (Odp: Odp: mUSASHI and AmigaOS)
  23378. Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 18:12:50 +0100
  23379. X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
  23380. X-Priority: 3
  23381. X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155
  23382. MIME-Version: 1.0
  23383. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2
  23384. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
  23385.  
  23386. > >sumie nie by³oby to du¿¹ przeszkod¹.
  23387. > 
  23388. > Od dluzszego czasu wysylasz polskie literki w jakims egzotycznym formacie.
  23389. > Zrob cos z tym.
  23390.  
  23391. IMHO wydaje mi sie, ze moje ogonki sa w porzadku. Na wszelki wyp. daje ponizej
  23392. ich zestaw, powiedzcie mi czy jest OK.
  23393. bez pl: acelnoszx
  23394. male  : ±æê³ñ󶿼
  23395. duze  : ¡ÆÊ£ÑÓ¦¯¬
  23396.  
  23397. Pozdrawiam
  23398.  
  23399. Sherwood
  23400. From owner-amigapl  Thu Mar 19 17:50:23 1998
  23401. Received: from arka.mtl.pl (root@mtl.pl [195.116.4.4]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA07743 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 17:48:43 +0100 (MET)
  23402. Received: from gie-da (rmod16.mtl.pl [195.116.164.18]) by arka.mtl.pl (8.8.7/8.6.12) with ESMTP id RAA02808 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 17:48:07 +0100 (MET)
  23403. Message-Id: <199803191648.RAA02808@arka.mtl.pl>
  23404. From: "Adam Zaparcinski" <gielda@mtl.pl>
  23405. To: "AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi" <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  23406. Subject: Odp: re[2]: MUSASHI and AmigaOS
  23407. Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 18:15:10 +0100
  23408. X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
  23409. X-Priority: 3
  23410. X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155
  23411. MIME-Version: 1.0
  23412. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
  23413. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
  23414.  
  23415. > Blad polegal na zwalnianiu pamieci statycznej w sposob dynamiczny:
  23416. > 
  23417. > char a[]="Nasza tablica:))"
  23418. > char *wskaznik;
  23419. > 
  23420. > wskaznik=a;
  23421. > delete wskaznik;
  23422. > 
  23423. > - oto sprawca wszystkiego - kompilator to skompiluje,
  23424. > ale niestety system sie powiesi ... - sprawca wszystkiego bylo zle
  23425. > przekazywanie argumentow z informacja, o tym czy pamiec ma byc zwalniana,
  23426. > czy nie
  23427.  
  23428. I to spowodowalo koniecznosc reinstalacji g95? Cos mi sie nie chce wierzyc.
  23429. Ale dobrze wiedziec, bede mogl (nie)umyslnie na laborkach walnac taki blad i
  23430. bezkarnie rozwalic pare g95
  23431.  
  23432. Shr
  23433. From owner-amigapl  Thu Mar 19 18:50:04 1998
  23434. Received: from onet.pl (root@onet.pl [194.204.188.6]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA07947 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 18:48:34 +0100 (MET)
  23435. Received: from mk (ppp-wct60.katowice.tpnet.pl [194.204.181.60])
  23436.     by onet.pl (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA13515
  23437.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 18:46:24 +0100 (MET)
  23438. From: "Wojciech Kocjan" <kocjan@ka.onet.pl>
  23439. To: "AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi" <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  23440. Subject: Re: Pilne: Jak zastapic BeginIO()
  23441. Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 18:41:33 +0100
  23442. Message-ID: <01bd535e$41d5be00$fdfefe01@mk>
  23443. MIME-Version: 1.0
  23444. Content-Type: text/plain;
  23445.     charset="iso-8859-2"
  23446. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
  23447. X-Priority: 3
  23448. X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
  23449. X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3
  23450. X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3
  23451.  
  23452. You wrote:
  23453. >>Mam pilne pytanie do developerów (prosze bez dygresji w stylu: a po co
  23454. >Jak sie wyklada ? Nie powinno byc z amiga.lib problemow. Pamietaj, ze
  23455. >wszystkie funkcje z amiga.lib wymagaja parametrow na stosie, a nie w
  23456. >rejestrach. Trzeba ustawic parms=both. Jesli masz ustawione parms=register
  23457. to
  23458. >jest prawdopodobna przyczyna wykladania sie.
  23459.  
  23460. Wykladal sie, bo zapomnialem podac odpowiedni IORequest przy przenoszeniu
  23461. kodu
  23462. z programu na biblioteke. Teraz chodzi ok. Z i bez amiga.lib.
  23463.  
  23464. A swoja droga: co to za fenomen ze stdout, gdy skorzystamy w funkcji z
  23465. __saveds
  23466. z printf(), to przy linkowaniu pyta sie o _stdout (czyli standardowe
  23467. stdout).
  23468. Czy moze zla kolejnosc bibliotek przy laczeniu? (korzystam z SAS/C)
  23469.  
  23470. Ale dzieki za info - moze sie przydac, jesli bede chcial z inline-owac kod.
  23471.  
  23472. Wojciech Kocjan
  23473. mailto:kocjan@ka.onet.pl        http://priv.onet.pl/ka/wkocjan/
  23474. GSM: +48 601 473237             SMS mailto:48601473237@text.plusgsm.pl
  23475. AUTHOR OF AStartV4, ANETGUI, NEWFMT.LIBRARY and other things
  23476. ---
  23477. "Software suppliers are trying to make their software packages more
  23478. 'user-friendly'.... Their best approach, so far, has been to take
  23479. all the old brochures, and stamp the words, 'user-friendly' on the cover."
  23480. -- Bill Gates, Pres., Microsoft, Inc.
  23481.  
  23482. From owner-amigapl  Thu Mar 19 20:19:59 1998
  23483. Received: from rose.man.poznan.pl (root@rose.man.poznan.pl [150.254.173.3]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA08133 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 19:52:03 +0100 (MET)
  23484. Received: from au.poznan.pl (owl.au.poznan.pl [150.254.162.136])
  23485.     by rose.man.poznan.pl (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA20159
  23486.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 19:51:30 +0100 (MET)
  23487. Received: from owl.au.poznan.pl (pppa40.poznan.tpnet.pl) by au.poznan.pl (5.x/SMI-SVR4)
  23488.     id AA26443; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 19:51:16 +0100
  23489. From: Roger Kolomlocki <roger@owl.au.poznan.pl>
  23490. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  23491. Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 00:10:59 +0100
  23492. Message-Id: <yam7382.2967.1748302000@owl.au.poznan.pl>
  23493. In-Reply-To: <yam7380.2363.1745421176@friko.onet.pl>
  23494. X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview3 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
  23495. Subject: Re: YAM 2.0
  23496. Mime-Version: 1.0
  23497. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  23498. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  23499.  
  23500. Dnia 17-Mar-98, Ryszard Sajdak napisa=B3:
  23501. > Mam taki problem z instalacj=B1 tego programiku:
  23502. > Podczas instalacji jest niby wszystko OK, ale podczas pr=F3by uruchomie=
  23503. nia =
  23504.  
  23505. > wszystko sobie doczytuje po czym pojawia sie na blacie WB tylko ikonka =
  23506.  
  23507. > kt=F3rej nie mo=BFna otworzy=E6... Co jest nie tak?
  23508.          =
  23509.  
  23510. Spr=F3buj skasowa=E6 stare locale do YAM'a. Powinno zadzia=B3a=E6.
  23511.  
  23512. Pozdrawiam
  23513. -- =
  23514.  
  23515.               ___      =
  23516.  
  23517.      ___     /  /      =
  23518.  
  23519.      \  \RoGeR /        =
  23520.  
  23521. /roger@owl.au.poznan.pl/
  23522.     A1230T/16/1.2Gb
  23523.         \___/
  23524.  
  23525. From owner-amigapl  Thu Mar 19 21:20:03 1998
  23526. Received: from opnt.optimus.wroc.pl (opnt.optimus.wroc.pl [195.117.195.3]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA08365 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 21:13:57 +0100 (MET)
  23527. Received: from opnt.optimus.wroc.pl (unverified [195.116.164.28]) by opnt.optimus.wroc.pl
  23528.  (EMWAC SMTPRS 0.83) with SMTP id <B0000077640@opnt.optimus.wroc.pl>;
  23529.  Thu, 19 Mar 1998 21:12:52 +0100
  23530. From: Maciej Matyka <maq@opnt.optimus.wroc.pl>
  23531. To: AmigaPL <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  23532. Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 21:12:12 +0100
  23533. Message-ID: <yam7382.649.2014647136@opnt.optimus.wroc.pl>
  23534. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  23535. Subject: CEBIT'98
  23536. MIME-Version: 1.0
  23537. Content-Type: text/plain
  23538.  
  23539.  
  23540. Czy ktos z Was ma jakies konkretne informacje na temat firm zwiazanych bezp. z
  23541. Amiga, ktore beda (sa) obecne na targach Cebit 98' ?
  23542.  
  23543.                                                                 MaQ
  23544.  
  23545. -- 
  23546.                                    "AMIGA COMPUTER STUDIO"
  23547. Maciej Matyka | MaQ of GENETIC | scene coding * progamming
  23548. Amiga 1200/030.50/10MB/HD340MB | maq@opnt.optimus.wroc.pl
  23549.  
  23550.  
  23551. From owner-amigapl  Fri Mar 20 01:19:59 1998
  23552. Received: from server.fiber.net.pl (server.fiber.net.pl [195.117.208.101]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA08940 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 01:00:05 +0100 (MET)
  23553. Received: from amiga.com.pl (pppa181.szczecin.tpnet.pl [194.204.141.181])
  23554.           by server.fiber.net.pl (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with SMTP
  23555.           id AAD7101 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>;
  23556.           Fri, 20 Mar 1998 01:00:08 +0100
  23557. From: Miloslaw Smyk <thorgal@amiga.com.pl>
  23558. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  23559. Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 22:15:07 +0100
  23560. Message-ID: <yam7382.368.140087096@fiber.net.pl>
  23561. In-Reply-To: <01bd535e$41d5be00$fdfefe01@mk>
  23562. X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview3 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
  23563. Organization: W.F.M.H.
  23564. Subject: Re: Pilne: Jak zastapic BeginIO()
  23565. MIME-Version: 1.0
  23566. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  23567. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  23568.  
  23569. Dnia 19-Mar-98, Wojciech Kocjan rzek=B3 co nast=EApuje:
  23570.  
  23571. > A swoja droga: co to za fenomen ze stdout, gdy skorzystamy w funkcji z
  23572. > __saveds
  23573. > z printf(), to przy linkowaniu pyta sie o _stdout (czyli standardowe
  23574. > stdout).
  23575. > Czy moze zla kolejnosc bibliotek przy laczeniu? (korzystam z SAS/C)
  23576.  
  23577. Hej, chyba nie chcesz powiedzie=E6, =BFe u=BFywasz funkcji z stdio w bibl=
  23578. iotece
  23579. dzielonej?
  23580.  
  23581. Mi=B3ek
  23582. -- =
  23583.  
  23584. mailto:thorgal@amiga.com.pl   |  "Man in the Moon and other weird things"=
  23585.  -
  23586. http://wfmh.org.pl/~thorgal/  |  see it at http://wfmh.org.pl/~thorgal/Mo=
  23587. on/
  23588.  
  23589. From owner-amigapl  Fri Mar 20 01:20:07 1998
  23590. Received: from server.fiber.net.pl (server.fiber.net.pl [195.117.208.101]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA08936 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 01:00:02 +0100 (MET)
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  23594.           Fri, 20 Mar 1998 01:00:04 +0100
  23595. From: Miloslaw Smyk <thorgal@amiga.com.pl>
  23596. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  23597. Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 22:07:35 +0100
  23598. Message-ID: <yam7382.1758.140087096@fiber.net.pl>
  23599. In-Reply-To: <350FAA31.50F7@polbox.com>
  23600. X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview3 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
  23601. Organization: W.F.M.H.
  23602. Subject: Re: Opus 5.6 i Monitor
  23603. MIME-Version: 1.0
  23604. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  23605. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  23606.  
  23607. Dnia 18-Mar-98, Juha rzek=B3 co nast=EApuje:
  23608.  
  23609. > a) Opus ma "tajemnicza" kombinacje klawiszy CTRL+LSHIFT+LALT za pomoca
  23610. > ktorej przechodzi sie do jego ekranu czy wie ktos gdzie moge zmienic ta=
  23611.  
  23612. > kombinacje ? Potrzebne to jest poniewaz jesli mam uruchomionego opusa i=
  23613.  
  23614. > uzywam ShapeShiftera to tego drugiego nie moge go zrestetowac
  23615. > (kombinacja CTRL+LSHIFT+LALT+ESC) opus wylapuje te kombinacje i
  23616. > przechodzi do swojego ekranu.
  23617.  
  23618. Ustawienia/Opcje/Ikonifikacja/Wywo=B3anie.
  23619.  
  23620. Mi=B3ek
  23621. -- =
  23622.  
  23623. mailto:thorgal@amiga.com.pl   |  "Man in the Moon and other weird things"=
  23624.  -
  23625. http://wfmh.org.pl/~thorgal/  |  see it at http://wfmh.org.pl/~thorgal/Mo=
  23626. on/
  23627.  
  23628. From owner-amigapl  Fri Mar 20 01:49:59 1998
  23629. Received: from hermes.telbank.pl (vena.telbank.pl [195.136.250.210]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA09029 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 01:39:38 +0100 (MET)
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  23633.           for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 01:42:10 +0100
  23634. From: "Marek Szymanski" <szymanski@bptnet.pl>
  23635. Reply-To: tagor@wfmh.org.pl
  23636. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  23637. Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 01:31:58 +0100
  23638. Message-ID: <yam7383.2920.2017809712@vena.telbank.pl>
  23639. In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.3.95q.980319115142.1372D-100000@host>
  23640. X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview3 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
  23641. Organization: WFMH
  23642. Subject: Yam2pre, bylo: Re[2]: Fotki do Yam2
  23643. MIME-Version: 1.0
  23644. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  23645. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  23646.  
  23647. Cze=B6=E6 Piotr,
  23648.  =
  23649.  
  23650. On 19-Mar-98, Piotr Walaszek wrote: =
  23651.  
  23652.  
  23653. >> kolekcje Fotek do Yama 2.
  23654. > A juz zostal wydany ?
  23655.  
  23656. http://www.yam.ch/archive/
  23657. Ostatnio by=B3 chyba rev.3 z 04 marca. Jest to nadal /prerelease/, ale
  23658. jak wida=E6 dopuszczony do u=BFytku.
  23659.  
  23660. -- =
  23661.  
  23662. Marek SZYMANSKI  Team *AMIGA*
  23663.     mailto:tagor@wfmh.org.pl=
  23664.  
  23665. From owner-amigapl  Fri Mar 20 12:09:02 1998
  23666. Received: from info.cyf-kr.edu.pl (info.cyf-kr.edu.pl [149.156.4.11]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA09069 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 01:51:42 +0100 (MET)
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  23669.     Fri, 20 Mar 1998 01:51:07 +0100 (MET)
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  23672.     Fri, 20 Mar 1998 01:51:06 +0100 (MET)
  23673. From: Wojtek Jaworski <mxjawors@cyf-kr.edu.pl>
  23674. To: Lista dyskusyjna <amiga@plearn.edu.pl>, amigapl@amiga.com.pl
  23675. Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 01:43:06 +0200
  23676. Message-ID: <yam7383.333.119386832@kinga>
  23677. X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview3 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
  23678. Subject: Sprzedam karty graficzne
  23679. MIME-Version: 1.0
  23680. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  23681. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  23682.  
  23683. Cze=B6=E6,
  23684. Mam do sprzedania dwie karty:
  23685. CyberVision 64 2MB oraz Picasso IV
  23686. Pozdrawiam.
  23687. -- =
  23688.  
  23689.  
  23690. Wojtek
  23691. mailto: mxjawors@cyfronet.krakow.pl
  23692.  
  23693. From owner-amigapl  Fri Mar 20 12:39:03 1998
  23694. Received: from server.fiber.net.pl (server.fiber.net.pl [195.117.208.101]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA00172 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 12:19:30 +0100 (MET)
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  23699. Date:     Fri, 20 Mar 1998 11:45:08 +0100 (MET)
  23700. Sender: Krystian Wlosek <tygrys@ajax.umcs.lublin.pl>
  23701. From: Tygrys <tygrys@ajax.umcs.lublin.pl>
  23702. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  23703. Subject: Re: Pomysl - Tani Tower do A1200
  23704. In-Reply-To: <199803161551.QAA14997@arka.mtl.pl>
  23705. Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.980320113805.4630A-100000@ajax.umcs.lublin.pl>
  23706. MIME-Version: 1.0
  23707. Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-2
  23708. Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE
  23709.  
  23710. On Fri, 13 Mar 1998, Adam Zaparcinski wrote:
  23711.  
  23712. > powiedzmy za 20 z=B3 za komplet. Potem tylko dokupi=E6 pecetow=B1 obudow=
  23713. =EA midi-tower
  23714. > i zrobione. A firmy produkuj=B1ce towerki by si=EA w=B6ciek=B3y.
  23715.  
  23716. WSZYSTKO co jest potrzebne do przerobki midi-tower na obudowe do Amigi
  23717. jest sprzedawane wraz z obudowa. Cena takiej obudowy to mniej wiecej
  23718. 160-170 zl. Pozniej jest troche roboty z wieceniem dziur, wyginaniem blach
  23719. podtrzmujacych plyte. W sumie najwiecej roboty jest z przestawieniem
  23720. zasilacza tak aby przeniesc go w gore dzieki czemu uzyskuje sie wiecej
  23721. miejsca potrzebnego dla plyty komputera.
  23722.  
  23723. Calosc operacji przerabiania trwa jakies 3-4 godzinki, a pozniej juz
  23724. zadbanie o estetyke...
  23725.  
  23726. Aha.. bedzie maly problem z zasilaczem i wyprowadzonymi z niego
  23727. przewodami jednak umiejetnosc obslugi woltomierza + troche pomyslowosci
  23728. moze czynic cuda :)
  23729.  
  23730. > Adam 'Sherwood' Zaparci=F1ski
  23731.  
  23732. Pozdrawiam
  23733. Tygrys.
  23734.  
  23735. From owner-amigapl  Fri Mar 20 12:39:12 1998
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  23745.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 02:42:10 +0100 (MET)
  23746. From: Wojtek Jaworski <mxjawors@cyf-kr.edu.pl>
  23747. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  23748. Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 01:26:27 +0200
  23749. Message-ID: <yam7383.1351.119386832@kinga>
  23750. In-Reply-To: <yam7382.793.140501768@server.fiber.net.pl>
  23751. X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview3 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
  23752. Subject: Re[2]: Optymalizacja 040
  23753. MIME-Version: 1.0
  23754. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  23755. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  23756.  
  23757. Dnia 19-Mar-98, Marcin napisa=B3:                Adres:carlos@wfmh.org.pl=
  23758.  
  23759.  =
  23760.  
  23761. >> Mo=BFecie mi napisa=E6 jak najlepiej i czym zoptymalizowa=E6 =B6rodowi=
  23762. sko dla
  23763. >> procesora 040.
  23764. > =
  23765.  
  23766. > Co takiego??
  23767. Chodzi mi o to jakie stosuje si=EA =B3atki i patchy w systemie przy 68040=
  23768.  
  23769. I przede wszystkim _dlaczego._
  23770. Pozdrawiam.
  23771. -- =
  23772.  
  23773.  
  23774. Wojtek
  23775. mailto: mxjawors@cyfronet.krakow.pl
  23776.  
  23777. From owner-amigapl  Fri Mar 20 12:39:18 1998
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  23786. X-Sender: lamex@kki.net.pl
  23787. X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32)
  23788. Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 07:37:51 +0000
  23789. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  23790. From: Waldemar Lamek <lamex@kki.net.pl>
  23791. Subject: Re: Polskie literki (Odp: Odp: mUSASHI and AmigaOS)
  23792. In-Reply-To: <199803191648.RAA02803@arka.mtl.pl>
  23793. Mime-Version: 1.0
  23794. Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
  23795. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  23796.  
  23797. Hi.
  23798.  
  23799. >IMHO wydaje mi sie, ze moje ogonki sa w porzadku. Na wszelki wyp. daje
  23800. ponizej
  23801. >ich zestaw, powiedzcie mi czy jest OK.
  23802. >bez pl: acelnoszx
  23803. >male  : =B1=E6=EA=B3=F1=F3=B6=BF=BC
  23804. >duze  : =A1=C6=CA=A3=D1=D3=A6=AF=AC
  23805.  
  23806. Wszystko jest OK, ale pod Win'95 :-)).
  23807.  
  23808.  
  23809.                                                pozdrawiam,
  23810.                                                      Waldek
  23811. .oO LAMEX SOFTWARE LTD. Oo.
  23812.  E/BoX 1240/40CV64/3D 18MB=20
  23813.  e-mail:  lamex@kki.net.pl
  23814. From owner-amigapl  Fri Mar 20 12:39:26 1998
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  23821.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 09:27:20 +0100
  23822. From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=CEukasz?= Kwiatkowski <lukwiat@kki.net.pl>
  23823. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  23824. Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 09:21:58 +0100
  23825. Message-ID: <yam7383.2919.3639328@kki.net.pl>
  23826. In-Reply-To: <yam7382.2967.1748302000@owl.au.poznan.pl>
  23827. X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview3 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
  23828. Subject: Re[2]: YAM 2.0
  23829. MIME-Version: 1.0
  23830. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  23831. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  23832.  
  23833. Hello Roger
  23834.  
  23835. On 19-Mar-98, you wrote:
  23836.  
  23837. > Dnia 17-Mar-98, Ryszard Sajdak napisa=B3:
  23838. >> Mam taki problem z instalacj=B1 tego programiku:
  23839. >> Podczas instalacji jest niby wszystko OK, ale podczas pr=F3by uruchomi=
  23840. enia =
  23841.  
  23842. >> wszystko sobie doczytuje po czym pojawia sie na blacie WB tylko ikonka=
  23843.  =
  23844.  
  23845. >> kt=F3rej nie mo=BFna otworzy=EA... Co jest nie tak?
  23846. >         =
  23847.  
  23848. > Spr=F3buj skasowa=EA stare locale do YAM'a. Powinno zadzia=B3a=EA.
  23849. > =
  23850.  
  23851. > Pozdrawiam
  23852.  
  23853. To nie locale. Mia=B3em ten sam problem. Wystarczy usn=B1=E6 stare ustawi=
  23854. enia YAM.
  23855. Winne s=B1 najprawdopodobniej czcionki w MUI/Toolbar. Z niezrozumia=B3ych=
  23856.  dla
  23857. mnie powod=F3w YAM nie chce dzia=B3a=E6 z niekt=F3rymi czcionkami, np App=
  23858. lePL,
  23859. TopazPL. Bez problemu wsp=F3=B3pracuje z XHeveltica.
  23860.  
  23861. =A3ukasz Kwiatkowski
  23862. lukwiat@kki.net.pl
  23863.  =
  23864.  
  23865.  
  23866. From owner-amigapl  Fri Mar 20 12:39:33 1998
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  23870.           for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 09:33:53 +0100
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  23873.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 09:31:57 +0100 (CET)
  23874. From: Marcin Ostrowski <amizaur@box43.gnet.pl>
  23875. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  23876. Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 14:47:32 +0100
  23877. Message-ID: <yam7382.1613.4042424@iftia6.univ.gda.pl>
  23878. In-Reply-To: <yam7382.1300.122360920@mail.union.org.pl>
  23879. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  23880. Subject: Re: Amiga nadal ma sie dobrze
  23881. MIME-Version: 1.0
  23882. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  23883. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  23884.  
  23885. Dnia 19-Mar-98, Artur Muszynski napisa=EE:
  23886.  
  23887. >>On 19-Mar-98, Grzegorz Junka wrote:
  23888. >> mi przyszlo do glowy. Fajnie by bylo, gdyby IBM zbankrutowal i
  23889. kazda
  23890. >>firma produkujaca plyty do pc wypuscila nowe nowoczesne modele ze
  23891. >>swoim wlasnym nowym slotem rozszerzen - niekompatybilnym z zadnym
  23892. >>innym :)
  23893.  
  23894.  
  23895. >1. IBM niewiele ma obecnie do powiedzenia w =B6wiecie pece. Pr=EAdzej
  23896. VESA
  23897. >albo Intel.
  23898. >2. Jakby nie by=B3o, IBM jest wsp=F3=B3tw=F3rc=B1 PowerPC, wi=EAc co ty =
  23899. od nich
  23900. >chcesz?
  23901.  
  23902. No wlasnie, ja nie mam nic do IBMa, np. dobre dyski robia! tylko
  23903. kiedys komputer im nie wyszedl... ;))). Z "PC" dzis maja w sumie =
  23904.  
  23905. niewiele wspolnego, juz wiecej iNTEL (procesory i hardware) i
  23906. mICROSOFT ("systemy operacyjne"). Ma ktos cos przeciw PC pod
  23907. linuxem?
  23908.  
  23909. Niech iNTEL zbankrutuje! Dopiero by bylo. Inne firmy by pociagnely,
  23910. ale to juz by nie bylo to :). A potem mICROSOFT... =
  23911.  
  23912.  
  23913. -- =
  23914.  
  23915.  
  23916.                              Marcin Ostrowski
  23917.                        A1200/030/882/28/10Mb/170Mb
  23918.                           High-Radiation C1085S
  23919.                                modem 28800
  23920.  
  23921.  
  23922.                                     mailto:amizaur@box43.gnet.pl
  23923.  
  23924.  
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  23931.  
  23932. From owner-amigapl  Fri Mar 20 12:39:39 1998
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  23939.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 09:31:59 +0100 (CET)
  23940. From: Marcin Ostrowski <amizaur@box43.gnet.pl>
  23941. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  23942. Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 14:50:16 +0100
  23943. Message-ID: <yam7382.843.4042424@iftia6.univ.gda.pl>
  23944. In-Reply-To: <yam7381.2071.2714864@kki.net.pl>
  23945. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  23946. Subject: Re: Re[2]: PPC do A1200
  23947. MIME-Version: 1.0
  23948. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  23949. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  23950.  
  23951. Dnia 18-Mar-98, Irek napisa=EE:
  23952.  
  23953.  
  23954. >Dzwoni=B3em niedawno do Eureki i dowiadywa=B3em si=EA o tych kartach par=
  23955. =EA
  23956. >rzeczy. Niestety, ni maj=B1 SCSI i co najgorsze *nie b=EAdzie mo=BFna
  23957. >upgrade'owac ich do p=F3=BCniejszych wersji z SCSI :((((
  23958.  
  23959. Bo jak chcesz z SCSI to musisz od razu kupic 603e+ ktore ma SCSI.
  23960. Pewnie, ze do 603e juz potem nie zamontujesz.
  23961.  
  23962. -- =
  23963.  
  23964.  
  23965.                              Marcin Ostrowski
  23966.                        A1200/030/882/28/10Mb/170Mb
  23967.                           High-Radiation C1085S
  23968.                                modem 28800
  23969.  
  23970.  
  23971.                                     mailto:amizaur@box43.gnet.pl
  23972.  
  23973.  
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  23979.  
  23980.  
  23981. From owner-amigapl  Fri Mar 20 12:39:50 1998
  23982. Received: from server.fiber.net.pl (server.fiber.net.pl [195.117.208.101]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA00177 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 12:19:33 +0100 (MET)
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  23988.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 11:02:24 +0100
  23989. From: Tomasz Gierszewski <tomg@key.net.pl>
  23990. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  23991. Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 10:51:26 +0100
  23992. Message-ID: <yam7383.1322.1748695640@mail.key.net.pl>
  23993. X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
  23994. Subject: Pliki MIDI
  23995. MIME-Version: 1.0
  23996. Content-Type: text/plain
  23997.  
  23998. Witam wszystkich !
  23999.     Ostatnio na liscie pojawil sie temat odtwarzania MIDI. Rzeczywiscie
  24000. syntezator pozostaje niedoscignionym wzorem, tyle ze pojawia sie tu problem
  24001. nieco innej natury. Otoz niejednokrotnie zdarzylo mi sie spotkac pliki MIDI
  24002. ciekawych utworow, ale byly one "z zalozenia" marnej jakosci - syntezator
  24003. bezwzglednie ukazywal ich nieprofesjonalizm. Mam w zwiazku z tym prosbe:
  24004. jesli ktos posiada _dobrej_ jakosci utwory w tym formacie, to prosze na
  24005. priva ich liste i deklaracje ochoty przeslania mi ich mailem, (to w razie
  24006. gdyby komus chcialo sie tak dlugo "wisiec" na sieci), lub namiar na site,
  24007. skad mozna je wziac. Z gory dziekuje.
  24008.  
  24009. Tomasz (Crazy) Gierszewski
  24010.     tomg@key.net.pl
  24011.  
  24012. PS
  24013.     Naprawde (IMHO) mozemy byc dumni z posiadania Amig :-)
  24014.  
  24015.  
  24016.  
  24017.  
  24018.  
  24019. From owner-amigapl  Fri Mar 20 12:39:57 1998
  24020. Received: from server.fiber.net.pl (server.fiber.net.pl [195.117.208.101]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA00164 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 12:19:25 +0100 (MET)
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  24025.           Fri, 20 Mar 1998 10:24:43 +0100
  24026. From: Marcin Orlowski <carlos@wfmh.org.pl>
  24027. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  24028. Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 21:05:17 +0100
  24029. Message-ID: <yam7382.874.140644888@server.fiber.net.pl>
  24030. In-Reply-To: <199803170805.JAA20004@piast.pertus.com.pl>
  24031. X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 beta10 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
  24032. Organization: W.F.M.H.   (http://wfmh.org.pl)
  24033. Subject: Re: PPC do A1200
  24034. MIME-Version: 1.0
  24035. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  24036. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  24037.  
  24038. Dnia 17-Mar-98, Arkadiusz Winiarek napisa=B3:
  24039.  
  24040. > A ja mam "mi=B3=B1" wiadomo=B6=E6 dla u=BFytkownik=F3w kart z prockiem =
  24041. 060.
  24042. > Po nied=B3ugich rozmowach z Marktomem dowiedzialem si=EA, =BFe z mojej =
  24043. karty
  24044. > (Apollo 060/50) upgrade-u do PPC nie zrobi=B1,
  24045. > =
  24046.  
  24047. > I co wy na to ?
  24048.  
  24049. Nie bardzo rozumiem czemu Ci=EA tak to dziwi? Przecie=BF nikt nie b=EAdzi=
  24050. e
  24051. dop=B3aca=B3 do Twojego PPC. *_=AFadna_* firma nie jest zobligowana do sk=
  24052. upowania
  24053. u=BFywanego sprz=EAtu (do tego jeszcze kupionego od os=F3b trzecich etc) =
  24054. kiedy
  24055. u=BFytkownik chce si=EA go pozby=E6. AFAIK MarkTom nie prowadzi komisu an=
  24056. i
  24057. skupu, wi=EAc nie bardzo te=BF rozumiem na jakiej podstawie wysnu=B3e=B6
  24058. takie podejrzenie.
  24059.  
  24060. > bo ... trudno im b=EAdzie p=F3=BCniej sprzeda=E6 to co oddam ...
  24061.  
  24062. Co jako=B6 mnie wcale w przypadku Appolluff nie dziwi.
  24063.  
  24064. -- =
  24065.  
  24066.  My software never has bugs. It just develops random features.
  24067.  
  24068.  Marcin                              http://wfmh.org.pl/~carlos/
  24069.                                        mailto:carlos@wfmh.org.pl
  24070.  
  24071.  
  24072. From owner-amigapl  Fri Mar 20 13:09:04 1998
  24073. Received: from ernie.icslab.agh.edu.pl (kiskra@ernie.icslab.agh.edu.pl [149.156.98.14]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA00400 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 12:42:56 +0100 (MET)
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  24075.        id MAA21999 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 12:42:01 +0100 (MET)
  24076. Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 12:41:58 +0100 (MET)
  24077. From: Kamil Iskra <kiskra@ernie.icslab.agh.edu.pl>
  24078. X-Sender: kiskra@ernie
  24079. Reply-To: Kamil Iskra <iskra@student.uci.agh.edu.pl>
  24080. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  24081. Subject: Re: Gadgety
  24082. In-Reply-To: <yam7381.1512.19940016@kki.net.pl>
  24083. Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.95.980320124022.20793A-100000@ernie>
  24084. MIME-Version: 1.0
  24085. Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
  24086.  
  24087. On Wed, 18 Mar 1998, Pawel Golebiewski wrote:
  24088.  
  24089. > void JakaWiadomosc(struct IntuiMessage *komunikat)
  24090. >   {
  24091. >     int (*func)(void);
  24092. > 
  24093. >     if (komunikat->Class == IDCMP_GADGETUP)
  24094. >       {
  24095. >         func=(int *)((struct Gadget*)(komunikat->IAddress))->UserData; 
  24096. > //<-TUU
  24097. >       }
  24098. >   }
  24099. > 
  24100. > W miejscu oznaczonym <-TUU kompilator (Storm C 2.0)wyzuca blad Assigment type 
  24101. > (czy jakos tak). Nie rozumiem dlaczego, wydaje sie, ze mam wszustko dobrze.
  24102.  
  24103. Pole UserData rzutujesz na int*, a func jest typu int (*)(void), wiec nie
  24104. moze byc dobrze. Powinienes UserData rzutowac na taki sam typ, jak func.
  24105.  
  24106. / Kamil Iskra    AmigaOS  Linux/i386  Linux/m68k               \
  24107. | GeekGadgets GCC maintainer   UNIX system administrator       |
  24108. | iskra@student.uci.agh.edu.pl  kiskra@ernie.icslab.agh.edu.pl |
  24109. \ kamil@dwd.interkom.pl   http://student.uci.agh.edu.pl/~iskra /
  24110.  
  24111. From owner-amigapl  Fri Mar 20 14:09:03 1998
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  24118.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 13:56:51 GMT
  24119. From: Artur Muszynski <amst@union.org.pl>
  24120. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  24121. Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 13:06:12 +0100
  24122. Message-ID: <yam7383.609.122327512@mail.union.org.pl>
  24123. In-Reply-To: <yam7382.686.140593088@server.fiber.net.pl>
  24124. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  24125. Organization: Union
  24126. Subject: Re: AmigaOS
  24127. MIME-Version: 1.0
  24128. X-ISO-CONVERTED: Yam_ISO2 1.05 (02.11.97) (c) Silver Dream !
  24129. X-YAMISO-UPDATE: ftp://wfmh.man.szczecin.pl/pub/yam_iso2/
  24130. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  24131. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  24132.  
  24133. On 19-Mar-98, Marcin Orlowski wrote:
  24134. > Dnia 16-Mar-98, Grzegorz Junka napisa=B3:
  24135. > > system 4.0 ochrone pamieci juz ma miec. Czy ktos to potwierdzi? Bo je=
  24136. sli
  24137. > > nie, to caly ten AmigaOS w dobie PPC i nowych pre/boxow wlasciwie NIE=
  24138.  MA
  24139. > > SENSU!!!
  24140. > Bzdura. Do tej pory jakos mia=B3 a teraz nagle przesta=B3? I PPC ma tu
  24141. > raczej niewiele do ochrony pami=E6ci.
  24142.  
  24143. ppc.library jeszcze ochrony pami=EAci nie ma, ale jest na to przygotowana=
  24144. =2E
  24145. Gdyby fazie kodowanie sz=B3o tak dobrze jak robienie hard=B3eru, to ju=BF=
  24146.  mog=B3o
  24147. by=E6 dawno temu. Fazowy kernel staje si=EA de facto standardem, wi=EAc n=
  24148. ie ma co
  24149. gdyba=E6 co b=EAdzie w AmigaOS 4 (o ile w og=F3le b=EAdzie), tylko m=EAcz=
  24150. y=E6 faz=EA, =BFeby
  24151. wzi=EA=B3a si=EA=A0do roboty.
  24152.  
  24153. -- =
  24154.  
  24155.  
  24156.    // Artur Muszynski (AMST/UNION) A4000/040/EGS
  24157.  \//  e-mail: amst@union.org.pl
  24158.  
  24159. From owner-amigapl  Fri Mar 20 14:39:03 1998
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  24166.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 14:32:26 +0100 (MET)
  24167. Message-Id: <199803201332.OAA00995@kinga.cyf-kr.edu.pl>
  24168. From: "Wojtek Jaworski" <mxjawors@cyf-kr.edu.pl>
  24169. To: "AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi" <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  24170. Subject: Odp: Pliki MIDI
  24171. Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 14:32:27 +0100
  24172. MIME-Version: 1.0
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  24180.  
  24181. =20
  24182.  
  24183. -----Oryginalna wiadomo=B6=E6-----
  24184. Od: Tomasz Gierszewski <tomg@KEY.NET.PL>
  24185. Do: amigapl@amiga.com.pl <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  24186. Data: 20 marca 1998 14:15
  24187. Temat: Pliki MIDI
  24188.  
  24189. >jesli ktos posiada _dobrej_ jakosci utwory w tym formacie, to prosze na
  24190. >priva ich liste i deklaracje ochoty przeslania mi ich mailem, (to w =
  24191. razie
  24192. >gdyby komus chcialo sie tak dlugo "wisiec" na sieci), lub namiar na =
  24193. site,
  24194. >skad mozna je wziac. Z gory dziekuje.
  24195.  
  24196. Jesli by to jeszcze kogos wiecej interesowalo to mam ponad 2000 utworow =
  24197. w formacie MIDI. Oczywiscie roznego pokroju i jakosci. Nie mialem do tej =
  24198. pory potrzeby segregowania ich pod tym wzgledem dlatego moge podeslac =
  24199. raczej tylko hurtowo :)
  24200. Pozdrawiam=20
  24201. Wojtek
  24202. ------------------------------
  24203. mailto: mxjawors@cyfronet.krakow.pl
  24204.  
  24205.  
  24206. From owner-amigapl  Fri Mar 20 15:09:03 1998
  24207. Received: from onet.pl (root@onet.pl [194.204.188.6]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA00843 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 15:08:23 +0100 (MET)
  24208. Received: from mk (ppp-wct348.katowice.tpnet.pl [195.205.241.48])
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  24210.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 15:06:29 +0100 (MET)
  24211. From: "Wojciech Kocjan" <kocjan@ka.onet.pl>
  24212. To: "AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi" <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  24213. Subject: Re: re[2]: MUSASHI and AmigaOS
  24214. Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 14:51:05 +0100
  24215. Message-ID: <01bd5407$3a9528c0$fdfefe01@mk>
  24216. MIME-Version: 1.0
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  24218.     charset="iso-8859-2"
  24219. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
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  24223. X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3
  24224.  
  24225. You wrote:
  24226.  
  24227. >> - oto sprawca wszystkiego - kompilator to skompiluje,
  24228. >> ale niestety system sie powiesi ... - sprawca wszystkiego bylo zle
  24229. >> przekazywanie argumentow z informacja, o tym czy pamiec ma byc zwalniana,
  24230. >> czy nie
  24231. >
  24232. >I to spowodowalo koniecznosc reinstalacji g95? Cos mi sie nie chce wierzyc.
  24233. >Ale dobrze wiedziec, bede mogl (nie)umyslnie na laborkach walnac taki blad
  24234. i
  24235. >bezkarnie rozwalic pare g95
  24236.  
  24237.  
  24238. Chyba nic Ci to nie da. Testowalem na dwoch win95, skompilowane z Borland
  24239. C++ 3.1 (brrr) i nic sie nie stalo. Jesli mozesz mi podeslac na priva owy
  24240. program skompilowany, to sprawdze z checia ponownie, ale watpie, zeby to
  24241. zacielo caly system. Chyba, ze sam visual jest tak glupio zrobiony. (jak
  24242. widac borland nie robi takich glupot)
  24243.  
  24244. Wojciech Kocjan
  24245. mailto:kocjan@ka.onet.pl        http://priv.onet.pl/ka/wkocjan/
  24246. GSM: +48 601 473237             SMS mailto:48601473237@text.plusgsm.pl
  24247. AUTHOR OF AStartV4, ANETGUI, NEWFMT.LIBRARY and other things
  24248. ---
  24249. "Software suppliers are trying to make their software packages more
  24250. 'user-friendly'.... Their best approach, so far, has been to take
  24251. all the old brochures, and stamp the words, 'user-friendly' on the cover."
  24252. -- Bill Gates, Pres., Microsoft, Inc.
  24253.  
  24254. From owner-amigapl  Fri Mar 20 15:09:10 1998
  24255. Received: from onet.pl (root@onet.pl [194.204.188.6]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA00844 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 15:08:25 +0100 (MET)
  24256. Received: from mk (ppp-wct348.katowice.tpnet.pl [195.205.241.48])
  24257.     by onet.pl (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA16564
  24258.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 15:06:33 +0100 (MET)
  24259. From: "Wojciech Kocjan" <kocjan@ka.onet.pl>
  24260. To: "AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi" <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  24261. Subject: DOSWedge
  24262. Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 14:56:25 +0100
  24263. Message-ID: <01bd5407$f915c660$fdfefe01@mk>
  24264. MIME-Version: 1.0
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  24272.  
  24273. Czesc!
  24274.  
  24275. Mam taki problem: czy moze mi ktos podeslac najnowsza wersje DOSWedge'a na
  24276. priva? Nie wiem, czy mam najnowsza, a z "Reqtools Patch" z MCP wszystkie
  24277. programy pod classact wieszaja system. Przyzwyczailem sie do pisania ~/pix i
  24278. zamiast home:pix. Moze zna ktos jakies rozwiazanie tego problemu ? (jak nie
  24279. to chyba skorzystam z reqchange, ale chodzilo troche gorzej)
  24280.  
  24281. Wojciech Kocjan
  24282. mailto:kocjan@ka.onet.pl        http://priv.onet.pl/ka/wkocjan/
  24283. GSM: +48 601 473237             SMS mailto:48601473237@text.plusgsm.pl
  24284. AUTHOR OF AStartV4, ANETGUI, NEWFMT.LIBRARY and other things
  24285. ---
  24286. "Software suppliers are trying to make their software packages more
  24287. 'user-friendly'.... Their best approach, so far, has been to take
  24288. all the old brochures, and stamp the words, 'user-friendly' on the cover."
  24289. -- Bill Gates, Pres., Microsoft, Inc.
  24290.  
  24291. From owner-amigapl  Fri Mar 20 15:39:09 1998
  24292. Received: from onet.pl (root@onet.pl [194.204.188.6]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA00868 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 15:10:38 +0100 (MET)
  24293. Received: from mk (ppp-wct348.katowice.tpnet.pl [195.205.241.48])
  24294.     by onet.pl (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA16842
  24295.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 15:08:52 +0100 (MET)
  24296. From: "Wojciech Kocjan" <kocjan@ka.onet.pl>
  24297. To: "AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi" <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  24298. Subject: Re: Pilne: Jak zastapic BeginIO()
  24299. Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 15:09:29 +0100
  24300. Message-ID: <01bd5409$cc2a3940$fdfefe01@mk>
  24301. MIME-Version: 1.0
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  24303.     charset="iso-8859-2"
  24304. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
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  24306. X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
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  24309.  
  24310. You wrote:
  24311. >> A swoja droga: co to za fenomen ze stdout, gdy skorzystamy w funkcji z
  24312. >> __saveds
  24313. >> z printf(), to przy linkowaniu pyta sie o _stdout (czyli standardowe
  24314. >> stdout).
  24315. >> Czy moze zla kolejnosc bibliotek przy laczeniu? (korzystam z SAS/C)
  24316. >
  24317. >Hej, chyba nie chcesz powiedzieæ, ¿e u¿ywasz funkcji z stdio w bibliotece
  24318. >dzielonej?
  24319.  
  24320. Nie, ale jak np. robiê aplikacje MUI z w³asnymi klasami i u¿yjê printf() w
  24321. dispatcherze,
  24322. to w³a¶nie owy b³±d siê pojawia.
  24323.  
  24324. Wojciech Kocjan
  24325. mailto:kocjan@ka.onet.pl        http://priv.onet.pl/ka/wkocjan/
  24326. GSM: +48 601 473237             SMS mailto:48601473237@text.plusgsm.pl
  24327. AUTHOR OF AStartV4, ANETGUI, NEWFMT.LIBRARY and other things
  24328. ---
  24329. "Software suppliers are trying to make their software packages more
  24330. 'user-friendly'.... Their best approach, so far, has been to take
  24331. all the old brochures, and stamp the words, 'user-friendly' on the cover."
  24332. -- Bill Gates, Pres., Microsoft, Inc.
  24333.  
  24334. From owner-amigapl  Fri Mar 20 15:39:25 1998
  24335. Received: from onet.pl (root@onet.pl [194.204.188.6]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA00896 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 15:28:28 +0100 (MET)
  24336. Received: from mk (ppp-wct348.katowice.tpnet.pl [195.205.241.48])
  24337.     by onet.pl (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA18905
  24338.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 15:26:43 +0100 (MET)
  24339. From: "Wojciech Kocjan" <kocjan@ka.onet.pl>
  24340. To: "AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi" <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  24341. Subject: 603, 604 i G3
  24342. Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 15:27:19 +0100
  24343. Message-ID: <01bd540c$4a3a08e0$fdfefe01@mk>
  24344. MIME-Version: 1.0
  24345. Content-Type: text/plain;
  24346.     charset="iso-8859-1"
  24347. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
  24348. X-Priority: 3
  24349. X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
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  24351. X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3
  24352.  
  24353. Hi!
  24354.  
  24355. Bylem dzisiaj na stronie apple'a i widzialem porównanie G3/233MHz i
  24356. PII/300MHz. W/g testów G3 jest ok. 2 razy szybszy od procka o szybszym
  24357. taktowaniu. Wiec dlaczego faza5 nie robi kart z tymi prockami. A swoja droga
  24358. dlaczego faza zrobila tak genialne rozgraniczenie sprzetu na a1200 i na a4k?
  24359. Nie mam na mysli slotów itp, ale, ze na a1200 nie ma nawet 604 to juz IMHO
  24360. szczyt wszystkiego.
  24361.  
  24362. Wiem, ze na liscie bylo juz cos takiego i napisal ktos, ze G3 architektura
  24363. przypomina bardziej 603, ale co z tego? Predkoscia bardziej przypomina Alphe
  24364. :) A skoro robia komputry z G3 masowo, to na pewno nie jest taki drogi (choc
  24365. na pewno drozszy od 604). Ale i tak pewnie bardziej ekonomiczny
  24366. (predkosc/cena).
  24367.  
  24368. Wojciech Kocjan
  24369. mailto:kocjan@ka.onet.pl        http://priv.onet.pl/ka/wkocjan/
  24370. GSM: +48 601 473237             SMS mailto:48601473237@text.plusgsm.pl
  24371. AUTHOR OF AStartV4, ANETGUI, NEWFMT.LIBRARY and other things
  24372. ---
  24373. "Software suppliers are trying to make their software packages more
  24374. 'user-friendly'.... Their best approach, so far, has been to take
  24375. all the old brochures, and stamp the words, 'user-friendly' on the cover."
  24376. -- Bill Gates, Pres., Microsoft, Inc.
  24377.  
  24378. From owner-amigapl  Fri Mar 20 15:39:32 1998
  24379. Received: from www.kki.net.pl (www.kki.net.pl [195.116.9.70]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA00877 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 15:16:17 +0100 (MET)
  24380. Received: from kki.net.pl (karolb@ppp55.tarnobrzeg.tpnet.pl [195.116.243.55])
  24381.     by www.kki.net.pl (8.8.7/8.8.7.ver6) with SMTP id PAA07118
  24382.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 15:16:06 +0100
  24383. From: Karol Bryd <kbryd@kki.net.pl>
  24384. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  24385. Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 15:13:11 +0200
  24386. Message-ID: <yam7383.554.21397728@kki.net.pl>
  24387. In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.3.95.980319092926.19793A-100000@mops>
  24388. X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview3 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
  24389. Organization: BlaBla
  24390. Subject: Re[2]: Problem: Apollo 040
  24391. MIME-Version: 1.0
  24392. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  24393. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  24394.  
  24395. On 19-Mar-98, LeMUr of blabla (Lukasz Prokulski) wrote:
  24396.  
  24397. > On Wed, 18 Mar 1998, Krzysztof Michalski wrote:
  24398. >> Kolega kupi=B3 za moim przyk=B3adem kart=EA Apollo 1240/40, 32 MB EDO.=
  24399.  
  24400. >> Od samego pocz=B1tku wieczne resety, walidacje oraz dyskoteka. =
  24401.  
  24402. > [cut]
  24403. >> Pomocy! Kto wie o co chodzi? /Jest nas coraz mniej!/
  24404. > =
  24405.  
  24406. >     Czyzby plyta Amigi to rev1.1b? Jesli tak to niestety - nie bedzie
  24407. > dzialac poprawnie z Apollo... :(
  24408.  
  24409. Podobnie jest z p=B3yt=B1 1.d.1, je=B6li macie tak=B1 wersj=EA p=B3yty to=
  24410.  NIE
  24411. kupujcie kart Apollo (przynajmniej 040/40MHz), nie b=EAd=B1 dzia=B3a=E6,
  24412. w og=F3le...
  24413.  
  24414. -- =
  24415.  
  24416. Karol Bryd       |   http://www.gliwice.pl/~thufor  |  // Team *AMIGA*
  24417. kbryd@kki.net.pl |Author of util/time/2b_DailyUP.lha|\X/  & BLABLA Member=
  24418.  
  24419.  
  24420. Ninety percent of everything is bullshit.
  24421.  
  24422. From owner-amigapl  Fri Mar 20 16:09:03 1998
  24423. Received: from wfmh.org.pl (piter@pppa230.szczecin.tpnet.pl [194.204.141.230]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA00997 for <AmigaPL@wfmh.fiber.net.pl>; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 15:41:27 +0100 (MET)
  24424. From: Piotr Legiecki <piotrlg@wfmh.org.pl>
  24425. To: AmigaPL@wfmh.fiber.net.pl
  24426. Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 17:20:59 +0100
  24427. Message-ID: <yam7382.2962.505450304@wfmh.org.pl>
  24428. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  24429. Subject: dlugi kabel
  24430. MIME-Version: 1.0
  24431. Content-Type: text/plain
  24432.  
  24433. Czesc
  24434. Czy dobrze slyszalem, ze dlugosc kabla od zasilacza do plyty moze miec
  24435. wplyw na cokolwiek? Wydaje mi sie to nonsensem, ale cos mi swita, ze
  24436. kiedys na jakiejs liscie dyskusyjnej byla o tym mowa. I wyszlo, ze jak kabel
  24437. za dlugi, to z pradem cyrki sie dzialy. Prawda to? Bo musze gdzies pctyczny 
  24438. zasilacz postawic, a kolo monitora stac nie moze (a monitor stoi kolo A1200).
  24439.  
  24440. Czesc
  24441. -- 
  24442.  
  24443.                   --                                      --
  24444.                     ----------- Piotr Legiecki -----------
  24445.                   --          piotrlg@wfmh.org.pl         --
  24446.  
  24447. From owner-amigapl  Fri Mar 20 17:09:03 1998
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  24451.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 16:42:10 +0100 (CET)
  24452. Date: 17 Mar 98 22:25:04 +0100
  24453. From: "Piotr Walaszek" <tygrysek@pkp.wroc.pl>
  24454. Subject: Drukarka KX-P1091
  24455. To: amigapl@amiga.com.pl
  24456. Message-ID: <449.380T226T13450998@pkp.wroc.pl>
  24457. MIME-Version: 1.0
  24458. Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
  24459. Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit
  24460. X-Mailer: THOR 2.5a (Amiga;TCP/IP) *UNREGISTERED*
  24461.  
  24462. Grrrr, :)
  24463.  
  24464. Czy ktos zna taka drukarke jak Panasonic KX-P1091 (bardzo stara iglowka)
  24465. Jakie z nia moglyby by dzialac sterowniki ?
  24466.  
  24467.     "`-/")_.-'"``-._      Grrrrrr, :)
  24468.     . . `: -._    )-:-,_       Amiga E/Box 1230/50, 18MB, 2.5Gb + 6.3Gb hdd,
  24469.    (*_,)'  _  )`-.\  ``-'      CD4x4, NEC Multisync3D, ZII i CV64/3d
  24470.   _.- _..-_/ / ((.'       tygrysek@friko.onet.pl        tygrysek@pkp.wroc.pl
  24471. _((,.-'  ((,/             http://friko.onet.pl/wr/tygrysek
  24472.  
  24473. From owner-amigapl  Fri Mar 20 17:39:06 1998
  24474. Received: from piast.pertus.com.pl (root@piast.pertus.com.pl [195.116.191.6]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA01230 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 17:09:10 +0100 (MET)
  24475. Received: from pertus.com.pl (Moszum@ppp243.legnica.tpnet.pl [195.116.255.243])
  24476.     by piast.pertus.com.pl (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id RAA22883
  24477.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 17:12:36 +0100
  24478. From: Adam Moszumanski <moszum@pertus.com.pl>
  24479. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  24480. Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 17:04:30 +0100
  24481. Message-ID: <yam7383.1531.948464@mail.pertus.com.pl>
  24482. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  24483. Subject: Setpatch x.x
  24484. MIME-Version: 1.0
  24485. X-ISO-CONVERTED: Yam_ISO2 1.06 (17.11.97) (c) Silver Dream !
  24486. X-YAMISO-UPDATE: ftp://wfmh.org.pl/pub/yam_iso2/
  24487. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  24488. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  24489.  
  24490. Cze=B6=E6!
  24491.  
  24492. Ten w=B1tek by=B3 ju=BF poruszany przy okazji innego tematu,
  24493. ale osta=B3 si=EA bez echa. Tote=BF ponawiam pytanie:
  24494. Czy na A1200 - 39.106 powinno si=EA u=BFywa=E6 systemowego
  24495. Setpatch'a, czy te=BF mo=BFe najnowsz=B1 wersj=EA?
  24496. A co z SetPatchMrgCop? Z tego co pami=EAtam, autorzy
  24497. twierdzili, =BFe b=B3=B1d jest w ka=BFdej wersji OS'u, ale by=B3o
  24498. to pisane chyba podczas panowania Kickstartu 2.1?
  24499. __________
  24500.   *Moszum*
  24501.  
  24502. From owner-amigapl  Fri Mar 20 17:39:13 1998
  24503. Received: from piast.pertus.com.pl (root@piast.pertus.com.pl [195.116.191.6]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA01229 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 17:09:10 +0100 (MET)
  24504. Received: from pertus.com.pl (Moszum@ppp243.legnica.tpnet.pl [195.116.255.243])
  24505.     by piast.pertus.com.pl (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id RAA22890
  24506.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 17:12:40 +0100
  24507. From: Adam Moszumanski <moszum@pertus.com.pl>
  24508. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  24509. Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 17:04:57 +0100
  24510. Message-ID: <yam7383.2862.948464@mail.pertus.com.pl>
  24511. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  24512. Subject: H protection bit.
  24513. MIME-Version: 1.0
  24514. X-ISO-CONVERTED: Yam_ISO2 1.06 (17.11.97) (c) Silver Dream !
  24515. X-YAMISO-UPDATE: ftp://wfmh.org.pl/pub/yam_iso2/
  24516. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  24517. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  24518.  
  24519. Cze=B6=E6!
  24520.  
  24521. Podziel=EA si=EA z Wami informacj=B1, kt=F3r=B1 przypadkowo odkry=B3em w =
  24522. dokumentacji
  24523. do programu microls (=B5ls) by Matteo Cortese:
  24524.  
  24525.    Many  Amiga  users  think that the h flag stands for "hidden" (doing s=
  24526. o
  24527.  they  tremendously  confuse  the AmigaDOS protection bits with the MS-DO=
  24528. S
  24529.  attributes) and that it is not used by the system. That's not true! The =
  24530. h
  24531.  flag  stands for "hold" and its function is that of a "delayed Resident"=
  24532. :
  24533.  the  executable  flagged  with  "h" will be made resident when it will b=
  24534. e
  24535.  called the first time.
  24536.  
  24537. Fajne, nie? I kto by si=EA spodziewa=B3...
  24538. __________
  24539.   *Moszum*
  24540.  
  24541. From owner-amigapl  Fri Mar 20 18:39:03 1998
  24542. Received: from dollar.it.com.pl (dollar.it.com.pl [195.116.142.3]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA01457 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 18:31:37 +0100 (MET)
  24543. Received: from it.pl (soldier@dialup1.tns.it.pl [195.205.92.130])
  24544.     by dollar.it.com.pl (8.8.8/8.8.8/Internet Technologies) with SMTP id SAA21348;
  24545.     Fri, 20 Mar 1998 18:30:27 +0100 (MET)
  24546. From: Piotr Wojciechowski <soldier@apg.plukwa.pdi.net>
  24547. To: AmigaPL <amiga@plearn.edu.pl>
  24548. CC: "WFMH's AmigaPL" <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  24549. Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 17:01:47 +0100
  24550. Message-ID: <yam7383.2364.1745706280@easymail.it.pl>
  24551. X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
  24552. Organization: APG & AIRI (HTTP://airi.plukwa.pdi.net/)
  24553. Subject: HANDEL...
  24554. MIME-Version: 1.0
  24555. Content-Type: text/plain
  24556.  
  24557. Hallo,
  24558.  
  24559. Znajomi maja troche rzeczy do sprzedania i prosili o poinformowanie o tym:
  24560.  
  24561. 1)
  24562. Drukarke 
  24563. *Epson Stylus Color II*, model *P880A*, 
  24564. 720x720DPI, osobny zbiornik na czarny atrament, 
  24565. osobny na skladowe kolorow (CMY). Brak driverow dla pc, 
  24566. ale z TurboPrintem na Ami dziala wysmienicie. W komplecie zbiornik z 
  24567. czarnym atramentem (prawie pelny) i z kolorowym 
  24568. atramentem (nowy!). Cena tej drukarki: *650zl*. 
  24569.  
  24570. 2)
  24571. *Hewlett Packard Desk Jet 600*, 
  24572. 600x600DPI, czarno-biala, w komplecie 
  24573. sa oryginalne dyskietki z driverami dla pc. W komplecie tez 
  24574. jest zbiornik z atramentem (jest jeszcze 1/4 atramentu). 
  24575. Cena: *500*zl. 
  24576.  
  24577. 3)
  24578. a takze komputer *Amiga 1200* - w komplecie zasilacz oraz 
  24579. przezroczysta mysz. Amiga ta ma gniazdo od klawiatury 
  24580. zainstalowane na tasme przewodow, co ulatwia montaz 
  24581. dysku twardego wewnatrz obudowy. Cena Amigi: *600*zl. 
  24582.  
  24583.  
  24584.  
  24585. 4)
  24586. zasilacz wewnetrzno-zewnetrzny do Infinitiv'a - 40zl (bez zworki
  24587. zasilania!)
  24588.  
  24589.  
  24590.  
  24591. Jest tez zainteresowanie kupnem duzych Amig (A3000, A4000) Jesli ktos
  24592. mialby cos takiego na zbyciu to prosze o info (z opisem i cena ;)
  24593.  
  24594. /Prosze o zamieszczenie tych ogloszonek na gieldach ;))/
  24595.  
  24596.  
  24597.  
  24598. Dzieki i sorry.. .;)
  24599.  
  24600. Zdrowko
  24601. -- 
  24602.                        Piotr '#Soldier' Wojciechowski
  24603.                            *Amiga Promotion Group*
  24604.                     _Amiga Integrated Regsite Initiative_
  24605.  
  24606.       Working on: A1240/40T,18MB,3.2GB,1.76,A1438s,33k6,HP670C and...
  24607.  
  24608.                            e-mail: /soldier@it.pl/
  24609.  
  24610.  WinErr 01D: System crash - We are unable to figure out our own code.
  24611.  
  24612.  
  24613. From owner-amigapl  Fri Mar 20 20:09:03 1998
  24614. Received: from onet.pl (root@onet.pl [194.204.188.6]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA01631 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 19:43:54 +0100 (MET)
  24615. Received: from mk (ppp-wct235.katowice.tpnet.pl [194.204.181.235])
  24616.     by onet.pl (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA14181
  24617.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 19:41:56 +0100 (MET)
  24618. From: "Wojciech Kocjan" <kocjan@ka.onet.pl>
  24619. To: "AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi" <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  24620. Subject: Re: PPC do A1200
  24621. Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 19:42:24 +0100
  24622. Message-ID: <01bd542f$ec624060$fdfefe01@mk>
  24623. MIME-Version: 1.0
  24624. Content-Type: text/plain;
  24625.     charset="iso-8859-2"
  24626. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
  24627. X-Priority: 3
  24628. X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
  24629. X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3
  24630. X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3
  24631.  
  24632. You wrote:
  24633. >Dnia 17-Mar-98, Arkadiusz Winiarek napisa³:
  24634. >> A ja mam "mi³±" wiadomo¶æ dla u¿ytkowników kart z prockiem 060.
  24635. >> Po nied³ugich rozmowach z Marktomem dowiedzialem siê, ¿e z mojej karty
  24636. >> (Apollo 060/50) upgrade-u do PPC nie zrobi±,
  24637. >>
  24638. >> I co wy na to ?
  24639. >
  24640. >Nie bardzo rozumiem czemu Ciê tak to dziwi? Przecie¿ nikt nie bêdzie
  24641. >dop³aca³ do Twojego PPC. *_¯adna_* firma nie jest zobligowana do skupowania
  24642. >u¿ywanego sprzêtu (do tego jeszcze kupionego od osób trzecich etc) kiedy
  24643. >u¿ytkownik chce siê go pozbyæ. AFAIK MarkTom nie prowadzi komisu ani
  24644. >skupu, wiêc nie bardzo te¿ rozumiem na jakiej podstawie wysnu³e¶
  24645. >takie podejrzenie.
  24646.  
  24647. W Elboxie na przyk³ad mi powiedziano, ¿e Apolla (przynajmniej te z 040) bêd±
  24648. uwzglêdniane w upgradzie na PPC. I tak w³a¶nie powinno byæ. Bo je¶li nie, to
  24649. dlaczego ja mia³bym w ogóle owe PPC kupiæ? W koñcu z powodu niezbyt
  24650. szybkiego jak na nasze czasy 603 traciæ 8 baniek, które da³em za owe Apollo?
  24651.  
  24652. >> bo ... trudno im bêdzie pó¼niej sprzedaæ to co oddam ...
  24653. >Co jako¶ mnie wcale w przypadku Appolluff nie dziwi.
  24654.  
  24655.  
  24656. Wypraszam sobie. Nie powiem, Blizzard jest zdecydowanie lepszy, ale Apollo
  24657. poza problemami z MapROMem nie robi± wiêkszych problemów. Przynajmniej u
  24658. mnie.
  24659.  
  24660. Wojciech Kocjan
  24661. mailto:kocjan@ka.onet.pl        http://priv.onet.pl/ka/wkocjan/
  24662. GSM: +48 601 473237             SMS mailto:48601473237@text.plusgsm.pl
  24663. AUTHOR OF AStartV4, ANETGUI, NEWFMT.LIBRARY and other things
  24664. ---
  24665. "Software suppliers are trying to make their software packages more
  24666. 'user-friendly'.... Their best approach, so far, has been to take
  24667. all the old brochures, and stamp the words, 'user-friendly' on the cover."
  24668. -- Bill Gates, Pres., Microsoft, Inc.
  24669.  
  24670. From owner-amigapl  Fri Mar 20 20:39:04 1998
  24671. Received: from gryzmak.lodz.pdi.net (gryzmak.lodz.pdi.net [195.116.162.1]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA01729 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 20:25:56 +0100 (MET)
  24672. Received: (from arturp@localhost)
  24673.     by gryzmak.lodz.pdi.net (8.8.7/2.1.1/L) id UAA08417;
  24674.     Fri, 20 Mar 1998 20:24:17 +0100
  24675. Message-ID: <19980320202417.08988@plukwa.pdi.net>
  24676. Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 20:24:17 +0100
  24677. From: Artur Pietruk <arturp@plukwa.pdi.net>
  24678. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  24679. Subject: Re: Pliki MIDI
  24680. References: <yam7383.1322.1748695640@mail.key.net.pl>
  24681. Mime-Version: 1.0
  24682. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
  24683. X-Mailer: Mutt 0.83
  24684. In-Reply-To: <yam7383.1322.1748695640@mail.key.net.pl>; from Tomasz Gierszewski on Fri, Mar 20, 1998 at 10:51:26AM +0100
  24685.  
  24686. On Fri, Mar 20, 1998 at 10:51:26AM +0100, Tomasz Gierszewski wrote:
  24687. > Witam wszystkich !
  24688. >     Ostatnio na liscie pojawil sie temat odtwarzania MIDI. Rzeczywiscie
  24689. > syntezator pozostaje niedoscignionym wzorem, tyle ze pojawia sie tu problem
  24690. > nieco innej natury. Otoz niejednokrotnie zdarzylo mi sie spotkac pliki MIDI
  24691. > ciekawych utworow, ale byly one "z zalozenia" marnej jakosci - syntezator
  24692. > bezwzglednie ukazywal ich nieprofesjonalizm. Mam w zwiazku z tym prosbe:
  24693. > jesli ktos posiada _dobrej_ jakosci utwory w tym formacie, to prosze na
  24694.  
  24695.     O ile wiem to istnieja specjalnie robione profesjonalne midy, ale
  24696. duzo kosztuja.
  24697.  
  24698.     Pozdrawia:
  24699.  
  24700. -- 
  24701. -------------------------------------------------------------------
  24702. - Who  : Artur Pietruk - WebMaster @ PDi - www.pdi.net -      /// -
  24703. - Email: arturp@pdi.net IRC: APair TEL: +48 44 7140906 -     ///  -
  24704. - Snail: ul.11 listopada 33a/19 97-140 Koluszki POLAND - \\\///   -
  24705. - Using: AMIGA 4000/40 CV64-3D, A1240T                 -  \\//    -
  24706.  
  24707.         PGP public key - finger arturp@gryzmak.lodz.pdi.net
  24708.                 "My webpage exists - I've seen it!"
  24709. From owner-amigapl  Fri Mar 20 21:39:03 1998
  24710. Received: from butler.medianet.pl (root@butler.medianet.com.pl [195.116.184.2]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA01924 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 21:14:26 +0100 (MET)
  24711. Received: from mail.union.org.pl (virtual.medianet.pl [195.116.184.254])
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  24713.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 21:15:33 +0100 (MET)
  24714. Received: from union.org.pl (ppp2-cst198.warszawa.tpnet.pl [195.116.250.198])
  24715.     by mail.union.org.pl (8.8.6/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA29260
  24716.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 21:13:45 GMT
  24717. From: Artur Muszynski <amst@union.org.pl>
  24718. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  24719. Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 16:54:36 +0100
  24720. Message-ID: <yam7383.1835.122448424@mail.union.org.pl>
  24721. In-Reply-To: <yam7382.1613.4042424@iftia6.univ.gda.pl>
  24722. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  24723. Organization: Union
  24724. Subject: Re: Amiga nadal ma sie dobrze
  24725. MIME-Version: 1.0
  24726. Content-Type: text/plain
  24727.  
  24728. On 19-Mar-98, Marcin Ostrowski wrote:
  24729. > Ma ktos cos przeciw PC pod linuxem?
  24730.  
  24731. Ma. Odpada badziewny system operacyjny. Pozostaje badziewna architektura i
  24732. procesor z archaicznym assemblerem.
  24733.  
  24734. -- 
  24735.  
  24736.    // Artur Muszynski (AMST/UNION) A4000/040/EGS
  24737.  \//  e-mail: amst@union.org.pl
  24738.  
  24739. From owner-amigapl  Fri Mar 20 21:39:11 1998
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  24746.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 21:13:38 GMT
  24747. From: Artur Muszynski <amst@union.org.pl>
  24748. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  24749. Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 16:58:14 +0100
  24750. Message-ID: <yam7383.711.122448424@mail.union.org.pl>
  24751. In-Reply-To: <yam7382.2962.505450304@wfmh.org.pl>
  24752. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  24753. Organization: Union
  24754. Subject: Re: dlugi kabel
  24755. MIME-Version: 1.0
  24756. X-ISO-CONVERTED: Yam_ISO2 1.05 (02.11.97) (c) Silver Dream !
  24757. X-YAMISO-UPDATE: ftp://wfmh.man.szczecin.pl/pub/yam_iso2/
  24758. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  24759. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  24760.  
  24761. On 19-Mar-98, Piotr Legiecki wrote:
  24762. > Czesc
  24763. > Czy dobrze slyszalem, ze dlugosc kabla od zasilacza do plyty moze miec
  24764. > wplyw na cokolwiek? Wydaje mi sie to nonsensem, ale cos mi swita, ze
  24765. > kiedys na jakiejs liscie dyskusyjnej byla o tym mowa. I wyszlo, ze jak
  24766. kabel
  24767. > za dlugi, to z pradem cyrki sie dzialy. Prawda to? Bo musze gdzies
  24768. pctyczny =
  24769.  
  24770. > zasilacz postawic, a kolo monitora stac nie moze (a monitor stoi kolo
  24771. > A1200).
  24772.  
  24773. Z napi=EAciem, a nie pr=B1dem. Prawo Ohma: spadek napi=EAcia na kablu =3D=
  24774.  pr=B1d x
  24775. oporno=B6=E6 kabla. Zmierz napi=EAcia (szczeg=F3lnie +5V) przy samej Amid=
  24776. ze.
  24777.  
  24778. -- =
  24779.  
  24780.  
  24781.    // Artur Muszynski (AMST/UNION) A4000/040/EGS
  24782.  \//  e-mail: amst@union.org.pl
  24783.  
  24784. From owner-amigapl  Fri Mar 20 22:39:03 1998
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  24788.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 22:20:10 +0100
  24789. From: Adam Lewandowski <leware3@polbox.com>
  24790. To: amigapl@amiga.com.pl
  24791. Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 21:25:00 +0100
  24792. Message-ID: <yam7383.40.19594880@smtp.polbox.com>
  24793. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  24794. Organization: Chata privata
  24795. Subject: HDEnv itp...
  24796. MIME-Version: 1.0
  24797. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
  24798. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  24799.  
  24800. Cze=F4=EA!
  24801.  
  24802. Co s=E2dzicie o #istnieniu# takich program=F3w jak HDEnv i jemu podobnych=
  24803. ?
  24804. Pytanie z kr=EBgu podchwytliwych, ale napiszcie.
  24805.  
  24806. Pozdrawiam.
  24807.  
  24808. -- =
  24809.  
  24810.                 -+----------------------------------------+-
  24811.                  |        LeWaR - Adam Lewandowski        |      =
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  24813.                  | A1k2T APOLLO 040/33 34MB RAM 2,5GB HDD | =
  24814.  
  24815.                  |    Home: leware3@polbox.com            |
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  24828. RealAudio, Wybierz seans i idz do kina, wkrotce super konkursy!
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  24830.  
  24831. From owner-amigapl  Fri Mar 20 22:39:11 1998
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  24835.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 22:20:01 +0100
  24836. From: Adam Lewandowski <leware3@polbox.com>
  24837. Reply-To: Adam Lewandowski <leware3@polbox.com>
  24838. To: amigapl@amiga.com.pl
  24839. Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 21:52:28 +0100
  24840. Message-ID: <yam7383.1400.19594880@smtp.polbox.com>
  24841. In-Reply-To: <yam7379.244.2690648@kki.net.pl>
  24842. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  24843. Organization: Chata privata
  24844. Subject: Sterowniki do skanera
  24845. MIME-Version: 1.0
  24846. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
  24847. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  24848.  
  24849. Dnia 16-Mar-98, Irek napisa=EE:
  24850. >Dnia 15-Mar-98, Tomasz Mazur napisa=EE:
  24851. >> Uwaga!
  24852. >>Potrzebny jest jakikolwiek sterownik do skanera stacjonarnego
  24853. >>podlaczanego przez parallel port.(no scsi)
  24854. (...)
  24855. >Je=FBeli by mo=FBna to nie tylko na priva, bo i mnie interesuje ten prob=
  24856. lem
  24857. >(nigdzie jeszcze nie dowiedzia=EEem si=EB czy jest program kt=F3ry obs=EE=
  24858. u=FBy skaner
  24859. >w Amy przez parallela), tak wi=EBc je=FBeli kto=F4 co=F4 wiedzia=EEby na=
  24860.  ten temat
  24861. >to niech daje zna=EA...
  24862. >ps. ten skaner to Primax (taki tani stacjonarny A4 do piecyka :)
  24863.  
  24864. Cze=F4=EA!
  24865.  
  24866. Na dysku znalaz=EEem program do obs=EEugi skaner=F3w *SCANTEK 3.0* (share=
  24867. ware).
  24868. Program obs=EEuguje skanery MUSTEK, MICROTEK, SCANMAKER, HIGHSCREEN
  24869. po porcie r=F3wnoleg=EEym lub SCSI.
  24870. Ca=EEo=F4=EA zajmuje 129229 bajt=F3w w LHA.
  24871.  
  24872. Kto chce to na priv :).
  24873.  
  24874. Pozdrawiam!
  24875.  
  24876. PS.
  24877.  
  24878. Gdzie=F4 mia=EEem te=FB do Epson=F3w...
  24879.  
  24880. -- =
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  24887.                  |    Home: leware3@polbox.com            |
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  24899. Premiery filmowe, zwiastuny filmowe w RealVideo, muzyka filmowa w
  24900. RealAudio, Wybierz seans i idz do kina, wkrotce super konkursy!
  24901. ----------------------------------------------------------
  24902.  
  24903. From owner-amigapl  Fri Mar 20 23:39:03 1998
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  24910.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 23:35:05 GMT
  24911. From: Artur Muszynski <amst@union.org.pl>
  24912. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  24913. Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 21:54:12 +0100
  24914. Message-ID: <yam7383.619.122142432@mail.union.org.pl>
  24915. In-Reply-To: <01bd540c$4a3a08e0$fdfefe01@mk>
  24916. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  24917. Organization: Union
  24918. Subject: Re: 603, 604 i G3
  24919. MIME-Version: 1.0
  24920. X-ISO-CONVERTED: Yam_ISO2 1.05 (02.11.97) (c) Silver Dream !
  24921. X-YAMISO-UPDATE: ftp://wfmh.man.szczecin.pl/pub/yam_iso2/
  24922. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  24923. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  24924.  
  24925. On 20-Mar-98, Wojciech Kocjan wrote:
  24926. > Bylem dzisiaj na stronie apple'a i widzialem por=F3wnanie G3/233MHz i
  24927. > PII/300MHz. W/g test=F3w G3 jest ok. 2 razy szybszy od procka o szybszy=
  24928. m
  24929. > taktowaniu. Wiec dlaczego faza5 nie robi kart z tymi prockami. A swoja
  24930. droga
  24931. > dlaczego faza zrobila tak genialne rozgraniczenie sprzetu na a1200 i na=
  24932.  
  24933. a4k?
  24934. > Nie mam na mysli slot=F3w itp, ale, ze na a1200 nie ma nawet 604 to juz=
  24935.  IMHO
  24936. > szczyt wszystkiego.
  24937.  
  24938. Ca=B3kiem mo=BFliwe, =BFe ju=BF wkr=F3ce b=EAdzie robi=B3a (pre/box). Tes=
  24939. ty Apple'a s=B1
  24940. mocno naci=B1gane, zwa=BFywszy, =BFe na stronie Motoroli wyniki wysz=B3y =
  24941. im troch=EA
  24942. inne. G3, a dok=B3adnie 750 zajmuje wi=EAcej miejsca ze wzgl=EAdu na back=
  24943. side
  24944. cache, tak wi=EAc najpro=B6ciej by=B3oby do A4000. W A1200 wstawili 603e =
  24945. ze
  24946. wzgl=EAdu na cen=EA, pobieran=B1 moc i gabaryty. W dodatku, ze wzgl=EAdu =
  24947. na miejsce,
  24948. pami=EA=E6 jest 32-bitowa, wi=EAc 604 nie by=B3by do ko=F1ca wykorzystany=
  24949. =2E Jakby ci
  24950. =B3upn=EAli cen=EA 4000 z=B3 za kart=EA do A1200, przegrzewaj=B1c=B1 si=EA=
  24951.  i upychan=B1 pod
  24952. klapk=EA m=B3otkiem, a w dodatku nie tak szybk=B1 jak powinna, wtedy dopi=
  24953. ero
  24954. (IMHO) m=F3wi=B3by=B6, =BFe to szczyt wszystkiego.
  24955.  
  24956. > Wiem, ze na liscie bylo juz cos takiego i napisal ktos, ze G3 architekt=
  24957. ura
  24958. > przypomina bardziej 603, ale co z tego? Predkoscia bardziej przypomina
  24959. Alphe
  24960. > :) A skoro robia komputry z G3 masowo, to na pewno nie jest taki drogi
  24961. (choc
  24962. > na pewno drozszy od 604). Ale i tak pewnie bardziej ekonomiczny
  24963. > (predkosc/cena).
  24964.  
  24965. Jest zdaje si=EA ta=F1szy od 604e (pewnie zale=BFy to od wielko=B6ci cach=
  24966. e). Za to
  24967. obecnie max. cz=EAstotliwo=B6=E6 750 to 300MHz, a 604e 350MHz. W dodatku =
  24968. G3 nie
  24969. pracuje wieloprocesorowo (SMP), z czym faza sobie jako=B6 poradzi=B3a, al=
  24970. e
  24971. zawsze fakt jest faktem :-) Nie wiem jak z t=B1 Alf=B1, ale G3 wykonuje 3=
  24972.  
  24973. instrukcje/takt, a 604e 4 instrukcje/takt. Swoj=B1 szybko=B6=E6 G3 zawdzi=
  24974. =EAcza
  24975. tylko keszowi. Mo=BFe by tak przemailowa=E6 do fazy i zapyta=E6, co oni o=
  24976.  tym
  24977. my=B6l=B1?
  24978.  
  24979. PS: Jest lista ppc. Czy zjawia si=EA tam kto=B6 z fazy?
  24980.  
  24981. -- =
  24982.  
  24983.  
  24984.    // Artur Muszynski (AMST/UNION) A4000/040/EGS
  24985.  \//  e-mail: amst@union.org.pl
  24986.  
  24987. From owner-amigapl  Fri Mar 20 23:39:11 1998
  24988. Received: from mx1.polbox.com (mx1.polbox.com [195.116.5.16]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA02314 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 23:14:38 +0100 (MET)
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  24991.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 23:18:29 +0100
  24992. From: Adam Lewandowski <leware3@polbox.com>
  24993. Reply-To: Adam Lewandowski <leware3@polbox.com>
  24994. To: amigapl@amiga.com.pl
  24995. Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 22:29:30 +0100
  24996. Message-ID: <yam7383.1512.19594880@smtp.polbox.com>
  24997. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  24998. Organization: Chata privata
  24999. Subject: ixemul.library
  25000. MIME-Version: 1.0
  25001. X-ISO-CONVERTED: Yam_ISO2 1.06 (17.11.97) (c) Silver Dream !
  25002. X-YAMISO-UPDATE: ftp://wfmh.org.pl/pub/yam_iso2/
  25003. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  25004. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  25005.  
  25006. Cze=B6=E6!
  25007.  
  25008. Poszukuj=EA ixemul.library wersja 47.2.
  25009.  
  25010. Siema!
  25011.  
  25012. -- =
  25013.  
  25014.                 -+----------------------------------------+-
  25015.                  |        LeWaR - Adam Lewandowski        |      =
  25016.  
  25017.                  | A1k2T APOLLO 040/33 34MB RAM 2,5GB HDD | =
  25018.  
  25019.                  |    Home: leware3@polbox.com            |
  25020.                  |    Work: corso@bbs.chip.pl             |              =
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  25031. Premiery filmowe, zwiastuny filmowe w RealVideo, muzyka filmowa w
  25032. RealAudio, Wybierz seans i idz do kina, wkrotce super konkursy!
  25033. ----------------------------------------------------------
  25034.  
  25035. From owner-amigapl  Sat Mar 21 01:39:07 1998
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  25040.           Sat, 21 Mar 1998 01:34:13 +0100
  25041. From: Miloslaw Smyk <thorgal@amiga.com.pl>
  25042. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  25043. Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 23:48:08 +0100
  25044. Message-ID: <yam7383.447.138935280@fiber.net.pl>
  25045. In-Reply-To: <yam7383.2862.948464@mail.pertus.com.pl>
  25046. X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview3 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
  25047. Organization: W.F.M.H.
  25048. Subject: Re: H protection bit.
  25049. MIME-Version: 1.0
  25050. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  25051. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  25052.  
  25053. Dnia 20-Mar-98, Adam Moszumanski rzek=B3 co nast=EApuje:
  25054.  
  25055. >   Many  Amiga  users  think that the h flag stands for "hidden" (doing =
  25056. so
  25057. > they  tremendously  confuse  the AmigaDOS protection bits with the MS-D=
  25058. OS
  25059. > attributes) and that it is not used by the system. That's not true! The=
  25060.  h
  25061. > flag  stands for "hold" and its function is that of a "delayed Resident=
  25062. ":
  25063. > the  executable  flagged  with  "h" will be made resident when it will =
  25064. be
  25065. > called the first time.
  25066. > =
  25067.  
  25068. > Fajne, nie? I kto by si=EA spodziewa=B3...
  25069.  
  25070. =2E..=BFe w 3.1 ju=BF tego nie b=EAdzie. :)
  25071.  
  25072. Mi=B3ek
  25073. -- =
  25074.  
  25075. mailto:thorgal@amiga.com.pl   |  "Man in the Moon and other weird things"=
  25076.  -
  25077. http://wfmh.org.pl/~thorgal/  |  see it at http://wfmh.org.pl/~thorgal/Mo=
  25078. on/
  25079.  
  25080. From owner-amigapl  Sat Mar 21 01:39:13 1998
  25081. Received: from server.fiber.net.pl (server.fiber.net.pl [195.117.208.101]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA02633 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 01:34:18 +0100 (MET)
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  25084.           id AAB12688 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>;
  25085.           Sat, 21 Mar 1998 01:34:11 +0100
  25086. From: Miloslaw Smyk <thorgal@amiga.com.pl>
  25087. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  25088. Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 23:38:58 +0100
  25089. Message-ID: <yam7383.2908.138935280@fiber.net.pl>
  25090. In-Reply-To: <01bd5407$3a9528c0$fdfefe01@mk>
  25091. X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview3 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
  25092. Organization: W.F.M.H.
  25093. Subject: Re: MUSASHI and AmigaOS
  25094. MIME-Version: 1.0
  25095. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  25096. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  25097.  
  25098. Dnia 20-Mar-98, Wojciech Kocjan rzek=B3 co nast=EApuje:
  25099.  
  25100. > Chyba nic Ci to nie da. Testowalem na dwoch win95, skompilowane z Borla=
  25101. nd
  25102. > C++ 3.1 (brrr) i nic sie nie stalo. Jesli mozesz mi podeslac na priva o=
  25103. wy
  25104. > program skompilowany, to sprawdze z checia ponownie, ale watpie, zeby t=
  25105. o
  25106. > zacielo caly system. Chyba, ze sam visual jest tak glupio zrobiony. (ja=
  25107. k
  25108. > widac borland nie robi takich glupot)
  25109.  
  25110. Za to robi inne.
  25111.  
  25112. Panowie, ja bardzo prosz=EA o EOT. Listy Wam si=EA pomyli=B3y czy co?
  25113.  
  25114. Mi=B3ek
  25115. -- =
  25116.  
  25117. mailto:thorgal@amiga.com.pl   |  "Man in the Moon and other weird things"=
  25118.  -
  25119. http://wfmh.org.pl/~thorgal/  |  see it at http://wfmh.org.pl/~thorgal/Mo=
  25120. on/
  25121.  
  25122. From owner-amigapl  Sat Mar 21 02:39:04 1998
  25123. Received: from friko.onet.pl (friko.onet.pl [194.204.191.9]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id CAA04542 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 02:19:34 +0100 (MET)
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  25127. From: RHS Linux User <malafifi@friko.onet.pl>
  25128. Reply-To: malafifi@friko.onet.pl
  25129. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  25130. Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 02:06:56 +0100
  25131. Message-ID: <yam7384.2825.2016063040@priv.onet.pl>
  25132. In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.3.95q.980319114657.1372B-100000@host>
  25133. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  25134. Organization: SIEDZIBA =?iso-8859-2?Q?DIAB=A3A?=
  25135. Subject: Re: Odp: znikajace przyciski
  25136. MIME-Version: 1.0
  25137. X-ISO-CONVERTED: Yam_ISO2 1.03 (15.10.97) (c) Silver Dream !
  25138. X-YAMISO-UPDATE: ftp://wfmh.man.szczecin.pl/pub/yam_iso2/
  25139. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  25140. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  25141.  
  25142. 19-Mar-98, Piotr Walaszek wysma=BFy=B3(a)
  25143. PW>> >(cgxv41_r69f.lha), wszystko wrocilo do normy :O
  25144. PW>> >Czyzby jakis maly blad w nowszej wersji ?
  25145. PW>> >Czy komus tez sie tak stalo ?
  25146. PW>> A nie masz ty przypadkiem VisualPrefs. U mnie on byl tego przyczyna.=
  25147.  Nie
  25148. PW>mialem czasu sprawdzic dlaczego ale po usunieciu programu przyciski wr=
  25149. ocily
  25150. na
  25151. PW>swoje miejsce.
  25152.  
  25153. PW>Nie mam Visuala... Hmmrrrr
  25154. Spr=F3b=F3j jeszcze w MCP odptaszkowa=E6=A0SysIHack->No System-Gadgets...=
  25155. =2E
  25156. je=B6limasz masz MCP:)
  25157.  
  25158. -- =
  25159.  
  25160.               ---------------------------------------------------
  25161.               |     RHS Linux User znany jako Andrzej P=EAczak    |
  25162.               | A1k2 z dodatkami E-mial: malafifi@friko.onet.pl |
  25163.               ---------------------------------------------------
  25164.  
  25165. From owner-amigapl  Sat Mar 21 02:39:11 1998
  25166. Received: from friko.onet.pl (friko.onet.pl [194.204.191.9]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id CAA04545 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 02:19:39 +0100 (MET)
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  25170. From: RHS Linux User <malafifi@friko.onet.pl>
  25171. Reply-To: malafifi@friko.onet.pl
  25172. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  25173. Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 02:16:54 +0100
  25174. Message-ID: <yam7384.2733.2016063040@priv.onet.pl>
  25175. In-Reply-To: <yam7381.1912.2014823456@vena.telbank.pl>
  25176. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  25177. Organization: SIEDZIBA =?iso-8859-2?Q?DIAB=A3A?=
  25178. Subject: Re: Problem: Apollo 040
  25179. MIME-Version: 1.0
  25180. X-ISO-CONVERTED: Yam_ISO2 1.03 (15.10.97) (c) Silver Dream !
  25181. X-YAMISO-UPDATE: ftp://wfmh.man.szczecin.pl/pub/yam_iso2/
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  25209.  
  25210. From owner-amigapl  Sat Mar 21 02:39:18 1998
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  25215. From: RHS Linux User <malafifi@friko.onet.pl>
  25216. Reply-To: malafifi@friko.onet.pl
  25217. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  25218. Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 01:59:21 +0100
  25219. Message-ID: <yam7384.1079.2016063040@priv.onet.pl>
  25220. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  25221. Organization: SIEDZIBA =?iso-8859-2?Q?DIAB=A3A?=
  25222. Subject: Listy =?iso-8859-2?Q?angloj=EAzyczne?=
  25223. MIME-Version: 1.0
  25224. X-ISO-CONVERTED: Yam_ISO2 1.03 (15.10.97) (c) Silver Dream !
  25225. X-YAMISO-UPDATE: ftp://wfmh.man.szczecin.pl/pub/yam_iso2/
  25226. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  25227. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  25228.  
  25229. Hej.
  25230. Mo=BFe kto=B6 mi poleci=E6 jak=B1=B6 list=EA dyskusyjn=B1 po=B6wi=EAcon=B1=
  25231.  Amidze po angielsku?
  25232. =AFadnych grup newsowych :)
  25233. Oczywi=B6cie na priv najlepiej z informacj=B1 jak si=EA na ni=B1 zapisa=E6=
  25234.  :)
  25235. Dziekuj=EA za uwag=EA.
  25236.  
  25237. -- =
  25238.  
  25239.               ---------------------------------------------------
  25240.               |     RHS Linux User znany jako Andrzej P=EAczak    |
  25241.               | A1k2 z dodatkami E-mial: malafifi@friko.onet.pl |
  25242.               ---------------------------------------------------
  25243.  
  25244. From owner-amigapl  Sat Mar 21 03:09:04 1998
  25245. Received: from dns1.supermedia.pl (dns1.supermedia.pl [195.116.124.17]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id DAA04628 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 03:06:53 +0100 (MET)
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  25247. From: Peter Drapich <docent@union.org.pl>
  25248. Reply-To: docent@union.org.pl
  25249. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  25250. Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 00:00:12 +0100
  25251. Message-ID: <yam7382.629.123675376@mail.supermedia.pl>
  25252. In-Reply-To: <yam7381.1898.2016142576@priv.onet.pl>
  25253. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  25254. Organization: Union Systems
  25255. Subject: Re: re[2]: mUSASHI and AmigaOS
  25256. MIME-Version: 1.0
  25257. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
  25258. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  25259.  
  25260. On 18-Mar-98, RHS Linux User wrote:
  25261. >kt>>przedstawionej przez Musashiego. Brak ochrony pamieci Amigi w jego
  25262. >Kt>>mniemaniu jest choroba systemu, otco.
  25263. >Panowie.I po co ta ca=B3a awantura?Jak by=B6cie si=EA urodzili bez r=EAk=
  25264. i,
  25265. >nogi albo bez g=B3owy,to te=BF by=B6cie zdrowi nie byli.
  25266.  
  25267. Hehe, niezle      ^^^^^
  25268.  
  25269. Docent
  25270. --
  25271. Intel is one of Silicon Valley's top toxic waste polluters.
  25272.  
  25273. From owner-amigapl  Sat Mar 21 03:09:12 1998
  25274. Received: from dns1.supermedia.pl (dns1.supermedia.pl [195.116.124.17]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id DAA04630 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 03:07:17 +0100 (MET)
  25275. Received: from ppp4-103.warszawa.tpnet.pl (ppp4-103.warszawa.tpnet.pl [195.205.246.103]) by dns1.supermedia.pl (NTMail 3.03.0014/4c.aamn) with ESMTP id ja460261 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 03:03:37 +0100
  25276. From: Peter Drapich <docent@union.org.pl>
  25277. Reply-To: docent@union.org.pl
  25278. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  25279. Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 05:55:06 +0100
  25280. Message-ID: <yam7382.334.136208728@mail.supermedia.pl>
  25281. In-Reply-To: <yam7382.1559.122893136@mail.union.org.pl>
  25282. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  25283. Organization: Union Systems
  25284. Subject: Re: C
  25285. MIME-Version: 1.0
  25286. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
  25287. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  25288.  
  25289. On 19-Mar-98, Artur Muszynski wrote:
  25290. >On 19-Mar-98, Tomasz Kaczanowski wrote:
  25291. >> >Np. jakie ograniczenia ? Szczegolnie interesuja mnie te podobne do TP=
  25292.  ...
  25293. >> nie wymienie wszystkich - odam jedynie kilka przykladow, niewygody pra=
  25294. cy
  25295. >> i ograniczen ...
  25296. >> Brak mozliwosci (przy kozystaniu z wizardow) wstawienia definicji funk=
  25297. cji
  25298. >> globalnej w dowolnym miejscu)
  25299.  
  25300. >A do czego masz edytor? Wizard nie napisze za ciebie ca=B3ego programu.
  25301.  
  25302. Coz, niektorzy vizualni programisci sa o tym przekonani...:)
  25303.  
  25304. >> Brak dziedziczenia wielobazowego (w obiektowce)
  25305. >To jest nieprawda.
  25306. >> i jeszcze pare niedociagniec pomniejszych
  25307.  
  25308. >To zawsze si=EA znajdzie. BTW kto wie, =BFe Visual C++ pochodzi w proste=
  25309. j linii
  25310. >od Lattice C (jest to jeden z wielu nabytk=F3w billa) ?
  25311.  
  25312. Od ktorego pochodzi takze SAS/C. Co zabawniejsze, autor SAS/C 68k i PPC d=
  25313. la =
  25314.  
  25315. Amigi Steve Krueger pracowal takze jeszcze w Lattice na wersja i86 ... Ja=
  25316. ki
  25317. maly jest =
  25318.  
  25319. jednak ten swiat...
  25320.  
  25321. Btw, czy jest cos, czego big bill nie kupil ? Wszystko, poczawszy od
  25322. PowerPointa, Explorera, MS SQL po VisualC++. Chyba tylko Word jest w miar=
  25323. e
  25324. oryginalnym tworem MS.. Ba, nawet DOSa kupili...
  25325.  
  25326. Docent
  25327.  
  25328. --
  25329. Never do today what you can put off until tomorrow.
  25330.  
  25331. From owner-amigapl  Sat Mar 21 10:09:05 1998
  25332. Received: from server.fiber.net.pl (server.fiber.net.pl [195.117.208.101]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA05168 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 10:00:49 +0100 (MET)
  25333. Received: from server.fiber.net.pl (async51.fiber.net.pl [195.117.208.51])
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  25335.           id AAJ13919 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>;
  25336.           Sat, 21 Mar 1998 10:00:38 +0100
  25337. From: Marcin Orlowski <carlos@wfmh.org.pl>
  25338. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  25339. Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 21:02:40 +0100
  25340. Message-ID: <yam7383.2039.138534720@server.fiber.net.pl>
  25341. In-Reply-To: <01bd5409$cc2a3940$fdfefe01@mk>
  25342. X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 beta10 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
  25343. Organization: W.F.M.H.   (http://wfmh.org.pl)
  25344. Subject: Re: Pilne: Jak zastapic BeginIO()
  25345. MIME-Version: 1.0
  25346. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  25347. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  25348.  
  25349. Dnia 20-Mar-98, Wojciech Kocjan napisa=B3:
  25350.  
  25351. > Nie, ale jak np. robi=EA aplikacje MUI z w=B3asnymi klasami i u=BFyj=EA=
  25352.  printf() w
  25353. > dispatcherze, to w=B3a=B6nie owy b=B3=B1d si=EA pojawia.
  25354.  
  25355. Klasy zewn=EAtrzne czy wbudowane?
  25356. -- =
  25357.  
  25358.  My software never has bugs. It just develops random features.
  25359.  
  25360.  Marcin                              http://wfmh.org.pl/~carlos/
  25361.                                        mailto:carlos@wfmh.org.pl
  25362.  
  25363.  
  25364. From owner-amigapl  Sat Mar 21 10:09:15 1998
  25365. Received: from gryzmak.lodz.pdi.net (gryzmak.lodz.pdi.net [195.116.162.1]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA05141 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 09:59:00 +0100 (MET)
  25366. Received: (from arturp@localhost)
  25367.     by gryzmak.lodz.pdi.net (8.8.7/2.1.1/L) id JAA08012;
  25368.     Sat, 21 Mar 1998 09:57:17 +0100
  25369. Message-ID: <19980321095716.62607@plukwa.pdi.net>
  25370. Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 09:57:16 +0100
  25371. From: Artur Pietruk <arturp@plukwa.pdi.net>
  25372. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  25373. Subject: Re: Amiga nadal ma sie dobrze
  25374. References: <yam7382.1613.4042424@iftia6.univ.gda.pl> <yam7383.1835.122448424@mail.union.org.pl>
  25375. Mime-Version: 1.0
  25376. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
  25377. X-Mailer: Mutt 0.83
  25378. In-Reply-To: <yam7383.1835.122448424@mail.union.org.pl>; from Artur Muszynski on Fri, Mar 20, 1998 at 04:54:36PM +0100
  25379.  
  25380. On Fri, Mar 20, 1998 at 04:54:36PM +0100, Artur Muszynski wrote:
  25381. > Ma. Odpada badziewny system operacyjny. Pozostaje badziewna architektura i
  25382. > procesor z archaicznym assemblerem.
  25383.  
  25384.     Taaak... Ostatnio mam "przyjemnosc" przekonac sie o tym na wlasnej
  25385. skorze na uczelni... Co napisze kilka linijek kodu to ciekawych rzeczy sie
  25386. dowiaduje :-)
  25387.  
  25388. -- 
  25389. -------------------------------------------------------------------
  25390. - Who  : Artur Pietruk - WebMaster @ PDi - www.pdi.net -      /// -
  25391. - Email: arturp@pdi.net IRC: APair TEL: +48 44 7140906 -     ///  -
  25392. - Snail: ul.11 listopada 33a/19 97-140 Koluszki POLAND - \\\///   -
  25393. - Using: AMIGA 4000/40 CV64-3D, A1240T                 -  \\//    -
  25394.  
  25395.         PGP public key - finger arturp@gryzmak.lodz.pdi.net
  25396.                 "My webpage exists - I've seen it!"
  25397. From owner-amigapl  Sat Mar 21 10:09:24 1998
  25398. Received: from gryzmak.lodz.pdi.net (gryzmak.lodz.pdi.net [195.116.162.1]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA05179 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 10:02:18 +0100 (MET)
  25399. Received: (from arturp@localhost)
  25400.     by gryzmak.lodz.pdi.net (8.8.7/2.1.1/L) id KAA08334;
  25401.     Sat, 21 Mar 1998 10:00:39 +0100
  25402. Message-ID: <19980321100038.36906@plukwa.pdi.net>
  25403. Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 10:00:38 +0100
  25404. From: Artur Pietruk <arturp@plukwa.pdi.net>
  25405. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  25406. Subject: Re: ixemul.library
  25407. References: <yam7383.1512.19594880@smtp.polbox.com>
  25408. Mime-Version: 1.0
  25409. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
  25410. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
  25411. X-Mailer: Mutt 0.83
  25412. In-Reply-To: <yam7383.1512.19594880@smtp.polbox.com>; from Adam Lewandowski on Fri, Mar 20, 1998 at 10:29:30PM +0100
  25413.  
  25414. On Fri, Mar 20, 1998 at 10:29:30PM +0100, Adam Lewandowski wrote:
  25415. > Cze¶æ!
  25416. > 
  25417. > Poszukujê ixemul.library wersja 47.2.
  25418.  
  25419.     Zajrzyj na ftp.ninemoons.com
  25420.  
  25421. -- 
  25422. -------------------------------------------------------------------
  25423. - Who  : Artur Pietruk - WebMaster @ PDi - www.pdi.net -      /// -
  25424. - Email: arturp@pdi.net IRC: APair TEL: +48 44 7140906 -     ///  -
  25425. - Snail: ul.11 listopada 33a/19 97-140 Koluszki POLAND - \\\///   -
  25426. - Using: AMIGA 4000/40 CV64-3D, A1240T                 -  \\//    -
  25427.  
  25428.         PGP public key - finger arturp@gryzmak.lodz.pdi.net
  25429.                 "My webpage exists - I've seen it!"
  25430. From owner-amigapl  Sat Mar 21 10:39:05 1998
  25431. Received: from piast.pertus.com.pl (root@piast.pertus.com.pl [195.116.191.6]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA05261 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 10:15:49 +0100 (MET)
  25432. Received: from default (ppp163.legnica.tpnet.pl [195.116.255.163])
  25433.     by piast.pertus.com.pl (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA31629
  25434.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 10:19:11 +0100
  25435. Message-Id: <199803210919.KAA31629@piast.pertus.com.pl>
  25436. From: "Arkadiusz Winiarek" <sharky@pertus.com.pl>
  25437. To: <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  25438. Subject: baza dbf
  25439. Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 10:13:52 +0100
  25440. X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
  25441. X-Priority: 3
  25442. X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1157
  25443. MIME-Version: 1.0
  25444. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2
  25445. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  25446.  
  25447. Hej!
  25448.  
  25449. Moze ktos wie, czy istnieje baza na Ami rozpoznajaca pliki *.dbf z =
  25450. SuperBazy (mi.1.15) na pYcY?
  25451.  
  25452. A je=B6li takie cus jest i ktos posiada, to prosze na priva
  25453.  
  25454. See yaa!
  25455.  
  25456.          "Sharky" Arkadiusz Winiarek
  25457.                  Happy Amiga User!
  25458. A-1200T/2.1GB/1260/50/32MB Fast RAM
  25459.                  Jawor woj. legnickie
  25460. From owner-amigapl  Sat Mar 21 10:39:13 1998
  25461. Received: from sun10.ci.pwr.wroc.pl (baran@sun10.ci.pwr.wroc.pl [156.17.10.1]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA05221 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 10:09:27 +0100 (MET)
  25462. Received: (from baran@localhost)
  25463.     by sun10.ci.pwr.wroc.pl (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA09285;
  25464.     Sat, 21 Mar 1998 10:08:44 +0100 (MET)
  25465. Message-ID: <19980321100843.51884@sun10.ci.pwr.wroc.pl>
  25466. Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 10:08:43 +0100
  25467. From: "Miroslaw 'Jubal' Baran, NM" <baran@knm.org.pl>
  25468. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  25469. Subject: Re: ixemul.library
  25470. Mail-Followup-To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  25471. References: <yam7383.1512.19594880@smtp.polbox.com>
  25472. Mime-Version: 1.0
  25473. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  25474. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  25475. X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i
  25476. In-Reply-To: <yam7383.1512.19594880@smtp.polbox.com>; from Adam Lewandowski on Fri, Mar 20, 1998 at 10:29:30PM +0100
  25477. Organization: Klub Nieszkodliwych Maniakow
  25478. X-Motto: ,,...nawet jesli wbije Ci noz w plecy, pamietaj, ze bedzie to czyste pchniecie.''
  25479. X-Alchemy: Pany!
  25480. X-System: SunOS 5.5
  25481. X-PGP-key: mail(x) baran@sun10.ci.pwr.wroc.pl -s"send: pgp key" </dev/null
  25482.  
  25483. 20.03.98 pisze Adam Lewandowski (leware3@polbox.com):
  25484.  
  25485. > Cze=B6=E6!
  25486. >=20
  25487. > Poszukuj=EA ixemul.library wersja 47.2.
  25488.  
  25489. Na plukwie, od strony http://. Poszukaj...
  25490.  
  25491. zdrowka,
  25492. Jubal
  25493.  
  25494. --=20
  25495. =3D   // =3D mailto:baran@knm.org.pl =3D http://www.ci.pwr.wroc.pl/~baran/ =
  25496. =3D
  25497. =3D \X/  =3D Miroslaw L. Baran =3D Jubal =3D medical student =3D ALCHEMY PA=
  25498. NY! =3D
  25499.  
  25500.               Senatores boni viri, senatus autem mala bestia
  25501. From owner-amigapl  Sat Mar 21 11:09:05 1998
  25502. Received: from onet.pl (root@onet.pl [194.204.188.6]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA05315 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 10:51:45 +0100 (MET)
  25503. Received: from mk (ppp-wct115.katowice.tpnet.pl [194.204.181.115])
  25504.     by onet.pl (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA21661
  25505.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 10:49:39 +0100 (MET)
  25506. From: "Wojciech Kocjan" <kocjan@ka.onet.pl>
  25507. To: "AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi" <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  25508. Subject: Re: HDEnv itp...
  25509. Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 10:45:53 +0100
  25510. Message-ID: <01bd54ae$2415e7e0$fdfefe01@mk>
  25511. MIME-Version: 1.0
  25512. Content-Type: text/plain;
  25513.     charset="iso-8859-2"
  25514. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
  25515. X-Priority: 3
  25516. X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
  25517. X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3
  25518. X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3
  25519.  
  25520. You wrote:
  25521.  
  25522. >Czeôê!
  25523. >
  25524. >Co sâdzicie o #istnieniu# takich programów jak HDEnv i jemu podobnych?
  25525. >Pytanie z krëgu podchwytliwych, ale napiszcie.
  25526.  
  25527.  
  25528. Ja korzystam z HappyENVa i jestem zadowolony. ¯aden programik jeszcze siê
  25529. nie oburzy³.
  25530.  
  25531. Wojciech Kocjan
  25532. mailto:kocjan@ka.onet.pl        http://priv.onet.pl/ka/wkocjan/
  25533. GSM: +48 601 473237             SMS mailto:48601473237@text.plusgsm.pl
  25534. AUTHOR OF AStartV4, ANETGUI, NEWFMT.LIBRARY and other things
  25535. ---
  25536. "Software suppliers are trying to make their software packages more
  25537. 'user-friendly'.... Their best approach, so far, has been to take
  25538. all the old brochures, and stamp the words, 'user-friendly' on the cover."
  25539. -- Bill Gates, Pres., Microsoft, Inc.
  25540.  
  25541. From owner-amigapl  Sat Mar 21 11:31:11 1998
  25542. Received: from onet.pl (root@onet.pl [194.204.188.6]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA05370 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 11:19:58 +0100 (MET)
  25543. Received: from mk (ppp-wct115.katowice.tpnet.pl [194.204.181.115])
  25544.     by onet.pl (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA23016
  25545.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 11:18:07 +0100 (MET)
  25546. From: "Wojciech Kocjan" <kocjan@ka.onet.pl>
  25547. To: "AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi" <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  25548. Subject: Re: Pilne: Jak zastapic BeginIO()
  25549. Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 11:18:34 +0100
  25550. Message-ID: <01bd54b2$b49c5ca0$fdfefe01@mk>
  25551. MIME-Version: 1.0
  25552. Content-Type: text/plain;
  25553.     charset="iso-8859-2"
  25554. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
  25555. X-Priority: 3
  25556. X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
  25557. X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3
  25558. X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3
  25559.  
  25560. You wrote:
  25561. >> Nie, ale jak np. robiê aplikacje MUI z w³asnymi klasami i u¿yjê printf()
  25562. w
  25563. >> dispatcherze, to w³a¶nie owy b³±d siê pojawia.
  25564. >
  25565. >Klasy zewnêtrzne czy wbudowane?
  25566.  
  25567. To byl tylko przyklad, ale podklasa "Area.mui". Zawsze, gdy dokladam
  25568. lib:amiga.lib w SCOptions i skorzystam w funkcji z opcj± __saveds z
  25569. printf(), to w³a¶nie pyta o _stdout i nic nie wypisuje. Gdy np. w main() z
  25570. niej skorzystam to dzia³a.
  25571.  
  25572. Wojciech Kocjan
  25573. mailto:kocjan@ka.onet.pl        http://priv.onet.pl/ka/wkocjan/
  25574. GSM: +48 601 473237             SMS mailto:48601473237@text.plusgsm.pl
  25575. AUTHOR OF AStartV4, ANETGUI, NEWFMT.LIBRARY and other things
  25576. ---
  25577. "Software suppliers are trying to make their software packages more
  25578. 'user-friendly'.... Their best approach, so far, has been to take
  25579. all the old brochures, and stamp the words, 'user-friendly' on the cover."
  25580. -- Bill Gates, Pres., Microsoft, Inc.
  25581.  
  25582. From owner-amigapl  Sat Mar 21 11:31:28 1998
  25583. Received: from onet.pl (root@onet.pl [194.204.188.6]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA05367 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 11:15:01 +0100 (MET)
  25584. Received: from mk (ppp-wct115.katowice.tpnet.pl [194.204.181.115])
  25585.     by onet.pl (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA22753
  25586.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 11:13:09 +0100 (MET)
  25587. From: "Wojciech Kocjan" <kocjan@ka.onet.pl>
  25588. To: "AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi" <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  25589. Subject: =?iso-8859-2?Q?Ciekawosta_z_wzork=F3w?=
  25590. Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 10:59:13 +0100
  25591. Message-ID: <01bd54b0$008f23c0$fdfefe01@mk>
  25592. MIME-Version: 1.0
  25593. Content-Type: text/plain;
  25594.     charset="iso-8859-2"
  25595. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
  25596. X-Priority: 3
  25597. X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
  25598. X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3
  25599. X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3
  25600.  
  25601. Cze¶æ!
  25602.  
  25603. Nawi±zuj±c to bitu protekcji H, chcia³bym napisaæ o kolejnej ciekawostce,
  25604. której nigdzie nie znalaz³em (w RKM, RKRM, jakimkolwiek helpie itp):
  25605.  
  25606. Ka¿dy wie, ¿e | s³u¿y jako funkcja OR. A dopiero sam odkry³em, ¿e % s³u¿y
  25607. jako AND. W doku do dos.library/ParsePattern() o tym nie by³o! A wartoby
  25608. wiedzieæ, nie?
  25609.  
  25610. Wojciech Kocjan
  25611. mailto:kocjan@ka.onet.pl        http://priv.onet.pl/ka/wkocjan/
  25612. GSM: +48 601 473237             SMS mailto:48601473237@text.plusgsm.pl
  25613. AUTHOR OF AStartV4, ANETGUI, NEWFMT.LIBRARY and other things
  25614. ---
  25615. "Software suppliers are trying to make their software packages more
  25616. 'user-friendly'.... Their best approach, so far, has been to take
  25617. all the old brochures, and stamp the words, 'user-friendly' on the cover."
  25618. -- Bill Gates, Pres., Microsoft, Inc.
  25619.  
  25620. From owner-amigapl  Sat Mar 21 11:49:37 1998
  25621. Received: from server.fiber.net.pl (server.fiber.net.pl [195.117.208.101]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA00142 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 11:43:22 +0100 (MET)
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  25625.           Sat, 21 Mar 1998 11:43:12 +0100
  25626. From: Admin <owner-amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  25627. To: "[WFMH] Lista uzytkownikow Amigi" <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  25628. Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 10:18:02 +0100
  25629. Message-ID: <yam7384.129.142104576@server.fiber.net.pl>
  25630. X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 beta10 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
  25631. Organization: W.F.M.H.   (http://wfmh.org.pl)
  25632. Subject: POLBOX, GNET i inni...
  25633. MIME-Version: 1.0
  25634. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  25635. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  25636.  
  25637.  
  25638. Wszystkich kt=F3rzy u=BFywaj=B1 w/w w tytule kont pocztowych prosz=EA
  25639. o zmian=EA serwera SMTP. Przestaniecie przysy=B3a=E6 wtedy wielgachne
  25640. =B6mieci w postaci og=B3osze=F1 doczepionych do ka=BFdego waszego listu.
  25641. Mo=BFna u=BFywa=E6 ka=BFdego innego (np. www.tpnet.pl albo <miasto>.tpnet=
  25642. =2Epl
  25643. czy co=B6 innego).
  25644.  
  25645. -- =
  25646.  
  25647.  Admin                           mailto:owner-amigapl@amiga.com.pl
  25648.  
  25649.  
  25650.  
  25651. From owner-amigapl  Sat Mar 21 11:49:52 1998
  25652. Received: from server.fiber.net.pl (server.fiber.net.pl [195.117.208.101]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA00145 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 11:43:24 +0100 (MET)
  25653. Received: from server.fiber.net.pl (async51.fiber.net.pl [195.117.208.51])
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  25655.           id AAE14251 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>;
  25656.           Sat, 21 Mar 1998 11:43:15 +0100
  25657. From: Marcin Orlowski <carlos@wfmh.org.pl>
  25658. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  25659. Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 10:19:28 +0100
  25660. Message-ID: <yam7384.1434.142104576@server.fiber.net.pl>
  25661. In-Reply-To: <yam7383.619.122142432@mail.union.org.pl>
  25662. X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 beta10 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
  25663. Organization: W.F.M.H.   (http://wfmh.org.pl)
  25664. Subject: Re: 603, 604 i G3
  25665. MIME-Version: 1.0
  25666. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  25667. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  25668.  
  25669. Dnia 20-Mar-98, Artur Muszynski napisa=B3:
  25670.  
  25671. > PS: Jest lista ppc. Czy zjawia si=EA tam kto=B6 z fazy?
  25672.  
  25673. Niestety (mimo =BFe zapraszali=B6my osobi=B6cie). Ale ca=B3a pozosta=B3a
  25674. =B6mietanka jest.
  25675.  
  25676. -- =
  25677.  
  25678.  My software never has bugs. It just develops random features.
  25679.  
  25680.  Marcin                              http://wfmh.org.pl/~carlos/
  25681.                                        mailto:carlos@wfmh.org.pl
  25682.  
  25683.  
  25684. From owner-amigapl  Sat Mar 21 18:49:37 1998
  25685. Received: from bbs.chip.pl (bbs.chip.pl [195.116.104.14]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA01065 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 18:28:32 +0100 (MET)
  25686. Received: from [194.204.139.64] by bbs.chip.pl id 90840.wrk; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 18:04:08 +0100
  25687. Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980322010638.00685ac0@bbs.chip.pl>
  25688. X-Sender: corso@bbs.chip.pl
  25689. X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32)
  25690. Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 01:06:38 +0100
  25691. To: amigapl@amiga.com.pl
  25692. From: "Corso s.c." <corso@bbs.chip.pl>
  25693. Subject: Uwaga Bydgoszcz!!!
  25694. Mime-Version: 1.0
  25695. Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
  25696.  
  25697. Czesc!
  25698.  
  25699. Razem z Markiem Telleckim robimy male spotkanie
  25700. Amigowcow w Bydgoszczy na Starym Rynku kolo pomnika.
  25701. Takie tam piffko itp. Data : 22.03.98 godzina 16:00.
  25702. Przynajmniej zobaczy sie jak kazdy wyglada na zywo!
  25703. Kto chetny to zapraszam.
  25704.  
  25705. Pozdrawiam 
  25706. LeWaR
  25707.  
  25708. --
  25709. Adam Lewandowski
  25710. A1k2T 040/33 34MB RAM 2,5GB ZOOM 33,6k
  25711. home: leware3@polbox.com
  25712. work: corso@bbs.chip.pl
  25713.  
  25714. EOF
  25715.  
  25716. From owner-amigapl  Sat Mar 21 19:19:37 1998
  25717. Received: from mx1.polbox.com (mx1.polbox.com [195.116.5.16]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA01152; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 19:07:12 +0100 (MET)
  25718. Received: from polbox.com (neon@ppp133.radom.tpnet.pl [195.116.243.133])
  25719.     by mx1.polbox.com (8.8.8/rev-A0) with SMTP id TAA02790;
  25720.     Sat, 21 Mar 1998 19:11:03 +0100
  25721. From: Kamil =?iso-8859-1?Q?Drzewi=EFski?= <kgfx@polbox.com>
  25722. Reply-To: Kamil =?iso-8859-1?Q?Drzewi=EFski?= <kgfx@polbox.com>
  25723. To: AmigaPL <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>, CGX <cgraphx@meanmachine.ch>,
  25724.         PPC_PL <amigappc-dev@amiga.com.pl>, R3D <real3d-list@ns1.win.net>,
  25725.         Marek Pampuch <mikros@ispid.com.pl>, Forum3D <forum3d@pdi.net>
  25726. Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 19:02:11 +0100
  25727. Message-ID: <yam7384.577.139356368@smtp.polbox.com>
  25728. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  25729. Subject: Lightwave for Amiga is going on!!! (fwd)
  25730. MIME-Version: 1.0
  25731. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
  25732. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  25733.  
  25734. *** Wiadomo=F4=EA przeniesiona, oryginalnie napisana przez Michael Burkha=
  25735. rdt dn.
  25736. 21-Mar-98 ***
  25737. Hi list-members,
  25738.  
  25739. a good news from Petro Tyschtschenko: Lightwave is going to be developed
  25740. again for Amiga! This is the result of a meeting of Petro and Newtek.
  25741. They told him that Dweight, who is against Amiga is fired. Now Don Pence
  25742. is our man. He will continue Lightwave developing and updating.
  25743.  
  25744. Now we should ask Don what are the further plans for the Amiga. It is a
  25745. very big chance for the Amiga. And it could be now possible to get
  25746. PPC-Lightwave because AMIGA International Inc. has decided for 680x0 +
  25747. PPC dual processor boards from Phase 5 for further Amigas.
  25748.  
  25749. It should be our and the journalist's job to ask Don for all news we can
  25750. get. I have mailed him and I hope he will answer fast.
  25751.  
  25752. With a Lightwave which is the same on Amiga and PC there is the chance
  25753. to get out of a forgotten hole. Therefore I think we should all work for
  25754. and believe to Petro Tyschtschenko. He is a great man who want's to get
  25755. back the market Commodore lost. And Lightwave could help him.
  25756.  
  25757. I hope my english isn't as bad as I think myself.
  25758.  
  25759. Please ask Don at Newtek: don_pence@newtek.com
  25760.  
  25761. Here is the original message from Petro (German):
  25762.  
  25763. >Michael,   Ich habe gute Neuigkeiten. Bei NewTek gab es personelle
  25764. >Ver=E4nderung. Dweight, der AMIGA geblockt hat ist gefeuert worden und
  25765. die ganze
  25766. >Firma atmet auf.
  25767. >Don Pence, von NewTek war in St. Louis und ich hatte sehr interessante
  25768. >Gespr=E4che mit Ihm. NewTek wird wieder f=FCr AMIGA entwickeln und
  25769. updaten....
  25770. >
  25771. >N=E4heres k=F6nnen Sie gerne von Don selbst
  25772. erfahren....don_pence@newtek.com
  25773. >
  25774. >Bis bald    Petro Tyschtschenko
  25775.  
  25776.  
  25777. Hopefull greetings,
  25778.  
  25779. --
  25780. Michael Burkhardt
  25781.  
  25782. IOM Film- und Videoproduktion Hof + Mittweida
  25783.       Tel.: 09281-65325  ...  03727-601261
  25784.        Fax: 09281-64705  ...  03727-601267
  25785.   Hotline: 0171-3296371  ...  email: iom@hof.de
  25786.  
  25787.  
  25788.  
  25789.  
  25790.  
  25791. -- =
  25792.  
  25793.  
  25794. -----------------------------------------------
  25795. Kamil Drzewinski, kgfx@polbox.com / Team Amiga =
  25796.  
  25797.                   GSM: +48 602773956
  25798. -----------------------------------------------
  25799.  
  25800. ----- [ REKLAMA / ADVERTISEMENT ] ----------------------------------------
  25801. Lubisz film?! Wiec na co czekasz? Przylacz sie do FILMWEBU!
  25802. Pierwszy Polski Serwis Filmowy w Internecie  http://www.filmweb.pl
  25803. --------------------------------------------------------------------------
  25804.  
  25805. From owner-amigapl  Sat Mar 21 19:49:37 1998
  25806. Received: from arka.mtl.pl (root@mtl.pl [195.116.4.4]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA01237 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 19:23:45 +0100 (MET)
  25807. Received: from gie-da (rmod8.mtl.pl [195.116.164.10]) by arka.mtl.pl (8.8.7/8.6.12) with ESMTP id TAA03695 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 19:22:53 +0100 (MET)
  25808. Message-Id: <199803211822.TAA03695@arka.mtl.pl>
  25809. From: "Adam Zaparcinski" <gielda@mtl.pl>
  25810. To: "AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi" <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  25811. Subject: Odp: Odp: mUSASHI and AmigaOS
  25812. Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 19:14:44 +0100
  25813. X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
  25814. X-Priority: 3
  25815. X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155
  25816. MIME-Version: 1.0
  25817. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2
  25818. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
  25819.  
  25820. >Tak, bardzo trudno. Przekonasz sie, jak napiszesz swoj pierwszy
  25821. >nietrywialny [1] program.
  25822. >
  25823. >[1] nietrywialny: wiecej niz 5 plikow ze zrodlami, wiecej niz 5000 linii
  25824. >kodu.
  25825. Projekt, nad którym obecnie pracujê ma jak dot±d nieca³e 1000 linii kodu (w
  25826. C+MUI) i trzy pliki ze ¼ród³ami wiêc jestem jeszcze programistycznym knypkiem
  25827. ale pracujê nad tym. Co powiesz gdy przekroczê te 5000 linii (nie liczê
  25828. komentarzy) bo pisze mi siê ³atwo i wszystko wskazuje na to, ¿e dalej te¿
  25829. bêdzie ³atwo i bez zwisów?
  25830.  
  25831. Pozdrawiam
  25832.  
  25833. Sherwood
  25834. From owner-amigapl  Sat Mar 21 20:49:38 1998
  25835. Received: from silter.silesia.top.pl (silter.silesia.top.pl [195.117.67.3]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA01447 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 20:31:04 +0100 (MET)
  25836. Received: from ppp-wct448.katowice.tpnet.pl (yoyo@ppp-wct448.katowice.tpnet.pl [195.205.241.148])
  25837.     by silter.silesia.top.pl (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA13031
  25838.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 20:30:33 +0100 (CET)
  25839. Date: 21 Mar 98 20:28:22 +0100
  25840. From: "Grzegorz Juraszek" <yoyo@silesia.top.pl>
  25841. Subject: Re: HDEnv itp...
  25842. To: "AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi" <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  25843. In-Reply-To: <yam7383.40.19594880@smtp.polbox.com>
  25844. Message-ID: <640.384T1143T12281655@silesia.top.pl>
  25845. MIME-Version: 1.0
  25846. Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  25847. Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
  25848. X-Mailer: THOR 2.5 (Amiga;TCP/IP) *UNREGISTERED*
  25849.  
  25850. Hello Adam Lewandowski, on 20-Mar-98    21:25:00 you wrote:
  25851. >Cze¶ê!
  25852.  
  25853. >Co s±dzicie o #istnieniu# takich programów jak HDEnv i jemu podobnych?
  25854. >Pytanie z krêgu podchwytliwych, ale napiszcie.
  25855.  
  25856. Czy to jest konkurs w stylu "Czy HDEnv to:"?
  25857.  
  25858. a) japoñski wojownik
  25859. b) przybysz z kosmosu
  25860. c) wszystkie trzy odpowiedzi s± poprawne
  25861.  
  25862. Program jak program, po¿yteczny i nikomu nie szkodzi.
  25863.  
  25864. --
  25865.    Grzegorz Juraszek * Yoyo^Twilight * Amiga user * AIRI & ATO PL member
  25866.        mailto:yoyo@silesia.top.pl * http://www.silesia.top.pl/~yoyo
  25867. --
  25868.              "Let the truth be known though the heavens fall"
  25869.                     Agent Mulder * The X-Files * Redux
  25870.  
  25871. From owner-amigapl  Sat Mar 21 20:49:53 1998
  25872. Received: from friko2.onet.pl (root@friko2.onet.pl [194.204.191.6]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA01427 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 20:23:53 +0100 (MET)
  25873. Received: from friko2.onet.pl (micro@ppp-cen143.bielsko.tpnet.pl [194.204.147.143])
  25874.           by friko2.onet.pl (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP
  25875.       id UAA10013 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 20:22:55 +0100
  25876. From: Grzegorz Heldt <genuin@friko2.onet.pl>
  25877. Reply-To: genuin@friko2.onet.pl
  25878. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  25879. Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 20:58:51 -0500
  25880. Message-ID: <yam7384.2590.4721288@friko2.onet.pl>
  25881. In-Reply-To: <yam7383.619.122142432@mail.union.org.pl>
  25882. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  25883. Subject: Re: 603, 604 i G3
  25884. MIME-Version: 1.0
  25885. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
  25886. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  25887.  
  25888. Dnia 20-Mar-98, Artur Muszynski pisze:
  25889.  
  25890. >Ca=EEkiem mo=FBliwe, =FBe ju=FB wkr=F3ce b=EBdzie robi=EEa (pre/box). Te=
  25891. sty Apple'a s=E2
  25892. >mocno naci=E2gane, zwa=FBywszy, =FBe na stronie Motoroli wyniki wysz=EEy=
  25893.  im troch=EB
  25894. >inne. G3, a dok=EEadnie 750 zajmuje wi=EBcej miejsca ze wzgl=EBdu na bac=
  25895. kside
  25896. >cache, tak wi=EBc najpro=F4ciej by=EEoby do A4000. W A1200 wstawili 603e=
  25897.  ze
  25898. >wzgl=EBdu na cen=EB, pobieran=E2 moc i gabaryty. W dodatku, ze wzgl=EBdu=
  25899.  na miejsce,
  25900. >pami=EB=EA jest 32-bitowa, wi=EBc 604 nie by=EEby do ko=EFca wykorzystan=
  25901. y. Jakby ci
  25902. >=EEupn=EBli cen=EB 4000 z=EE za kart=EB do A1200, przegrzewaj=E2c=E2 si=EB=
  25903.  i upychan=E2 pod
  25904. >klapk=EB m=EEotkiem, a w dodatku nie tak szybk=E2 jak powinna, wtedy dop=
  25905. iero
  25906. >(IMHO) m=F3wi=EEby=F4, =FBe to szczyt wszystkiego.
  25907.  
  25908. Serio 603 ma 32 bit. transfer miedzy ram a procem ?.
  25909. Myslalem ze sa to w pelni 64 bit procki ! =
  25910.  
  25911. A co z architektura wew? tez 32 bity ????? !!!!! no nie ,bo zaczne zbiera=
  25912. c
  25913. na 3000 a nie na ppc.
  25914.  
  25915. >Jest zdaje si=EB ta=EFszy od 604e (pewnie zale=FBy to od wielko=F4ci cac=
  25916. he). Za to
  25917. >obecnie max. cz=EBstotliwo=F4=EA 750 to 300MHz, a 604e 350MHz. W dodatku=
  25918.  G3 nie
  25919. >pracuje wieloprocesorowo (SMP), z czym faza sobie jako=F4 poradzi=EEa, a=
  25920. le
  25921. >zawsze fakt jest faktem :-) Nie wiem jak z t=E2 Alf=E2, ale G3 wykonuje =
  25922. 3
  25923. >instrukcje/takt, a 604e 4 instrukcje/takt. Swoj=E2 szybko=F4=EA G3 zawdz=
  25924. i=EBcza
  25925.  
  25926. 4 instrukcje na takt !!!! bardzo prosze mnie oswiecic bo nie moge tego
  25927. pojac !!! .Wydaje mi sie ze cos Ci sie pomylilo !! To ze proc PPC maja =
  25928.  
  25929. przetwarzanie potokowe oznacza ze rzeczywiscie beda 4 instrukcje =
  25930.  
  25931. ale chyba na cykl a nie takt !!.Jesli sie myle to prosze mNIE zbesztac!!.=
  25932.  
  25933.  
  25934. >tylko keszowi. Mo=FBe by tak przemailowa=EA do fazy i zapyta=EA, co oni =
  25935. o tym
  25936. >my=F4l=E2?
  25937.  
  25938. >PS: Jest lista ppc. Czy zjawia si=EB tam kto=F4 z fazy?
  25939.  
  25940. >-- =
  25941.  
  25942.  
  25943. >   // Artur Muszynski (AMST/UNION) A4000/040/EGS
  25944. > \//  e-mail: amst@union.org.pl
  25945.  
  25946.  
  25947. >- WFMH AmigaPL ---------------------------------------------------------=
  25948. -----
  25949. >                      Ogloszenia kupno/sprzedaz  http://amiga.com.pl/gie=
  25950. lda/
  25951.  
  25952.  
  25953. -- =
  25954.  
  25955.  
  25956.  
  25957. Grzegorz Heldt AMIGA&TECHNO FAN. *** Team AMIGA ***
  25958. genuin@friko2.onet.pl   M'TEC 1230 '28Mhz 10 MB,HD 0.2GB TOSHIBA,
  25959. #amisia nick: micro     CD 4x PIONEER modem: noname 14.400.
  25960. 34-210 Zembrzyce ul. Zam=EEynie 26a .=
  25961.  
  25962. From owner-amigapl  Sat Mar 21 21:19:38 1998
  25963. Received: from dns1.supermedia.pl (dns1.supermedia.pl [195.116.124.17]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA01520 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 20:53:27 +0100 (MET)
  25964. Received: from ppp-cst94.warszawa.tpnet.pl (ppp-cst94.warszawa.tpnet.pl [194.204.131.94]) by dns1.supermedia.pl (NTMail 3.03.0014/4c.aamn) with ESMTP id ca460670 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 20:49:41 +0100
  25965. From: Peter Drapich <docent@union.org.pl>
  25966. Reply-To: docent@union.org.pl
  25967. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  25968. Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 16:46:34 +0100
  25969. Message-ID: <yam7382.1700.136630856@mail.supermedia.pl>
  25970. In-Reply-To: <yam7383.609.122327512@mail.union.org.pl>
  25971. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  25972. Organization: Union Systems
  25973. Subject: Re: AmigaOS
  25974. MIME-Version: 1.0
  25975. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
  25976. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  25977.  
  25978. On 20-Mar-98, Artur Muszynski wrote:
  25979. >ppc.library jeszcze ochrony pami=EAci nie ma, ale jest na to przygotowan=
  25980. a.
  25981. >Gdyby fazie kodowanie sz=B3o tak dobrze jak robienie hard=B3eru, to ju=BF=
  25982.  mog=B3o
  25983. >by=E6 dawno temu. Fazowy kernel staje si=EA de facto standardem, wi=EAc =
  25984. nie ma co
  25985. >gdyba=E6 co b=EAdzie w AmigaOS 4 (o ile w og=F3le b=EAdzie), tylko m=EAc=
  25986. zy=E6 faz=EA, =BFeby
  25987. >wzi=EA=B3a si=EA=A0do roboty.
  25988.  
  25989. Ladnie powiedziane, tylko trzeba dodac, ze nie faze meczyc a czlowieka, k=
  25990. tory
  25991. to robi.
  25992. Nic dziwnego, ze sa tak bardzo w tyle, jesli  chodzi o soft... Ten sam
  25993. czlowiek robi jeszcze SCSI i 68040/60.library. Przy jednej osobie, pracuj=
  25994. acej
  25995. nad kernelem nowej wersji systemu doczekamy sie w nastepnym stuleciu.
  25996.  
  25997.  
  25998. Docent
  25999. --
  26000. Time is like money... You never have enough
  26001.  
  26002. From owner-amigapl  Sat Mar 21 21:19:46 1998
  26003. Received: from dns1.supermedia.pl (dns1.supermedia.pl [195.116.124.17]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA01522 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 20:53:43 +0100 (MET)
  26004. Received: from ppp-cst94.warszawa.tpnet.pl (ppp-cst94.warszawa.tpnet.pl [194.204.131.94]) by dns1.supermedia.pl (NTMail 3.03.0014/4c.aamn) with ESMTP id da460671 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 20:49:55 +0100
  26005. From: Peter Drapich <docent@union.org.pl>
  26006. Reply-To: docent@union.org.pl
  26007. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  26008. Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 08:23:09 +0100
  26009. Message-ID: <yam7384.467.135387440@mail.supermedia.pl>
  26010. In-Reply-To: <01bd54b0$008f23c0$fdfefe01@mk>
  26011. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  26012. Organization: Union Systems
  26013. Subject: Re: Ciekawosta z =?iso-8859-1?Q?wzork=F3w?=
  26014. MIME-Version: 1.0
  26015. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
  26016. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  26017.  
  26018. On 21-Mar-98, Wojciech Kocjan wrote:
  26019. >Nawi=B1zuj=B1c to bitu protekcji H, chcia=B3bym napisa=E6 o kolejnej cie=
  26020. kawostce,
  26021. >kt=F3rej nigdzie nie znalaz=B3em (w RKM, RKRM, jakimkolwiek helpie itp):=
  26022.  
  26023. >Ka=BFdy wie, =BFe | s=B3u=BFy jako funkcja OR. A dopiero sam odkry=B3em,=
  26024.  =BFe % s=B3u=BFy
  26025. >jako AND. W doku do dos.library/ParsePattern() o tym nie by=B3o! A warto=
  26026. by
  26027. >wiedzie=E6, nie?
  26028.  
  26029. Tako rzecze dos.library autodoc:
  26030.  
  26031. "% Matches 0 characters always (useful in "(foo|bar|%)")."
  26032.  
  26033. Czyli jest jednak napisane...
  26034. Pisze tez o tym w "Amiga Guru book".
  26035.  
  26036. Docent
  26037.  
  26038. --
  26039. Snow is cool!
  26040.  
  26041. From owner-amigapl  Sat Mar 21 21:19:53 1998
  26042. Received: from dns1.supermedia.pl (dns1.supermedia.pl [195.116.124.17]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA01526 for <amigapl@wfmh.man.szczecin.pl>; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 20:54:03 +0100 (MET)
  26043. Received: from ppp-cst94.warszawa.tpnet.pl (ppp-cst94.warszawa.tpnet.pl [194.204.131.94]) by dns1.supermedia.pl (NTMail 3.03.0014/4c.aamn) with ESMTP id fa460673 for <amigapl@wfmh.man.szczecin.pl>; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 20:49:59 +0100
  26044. From: Peter Drapich <docent@union.org.pl>
  26045. Reply-To: Peter Drapich <docent@union.org.pl>
  26046. To: Lista dyskusyjna AmigaPL <AMIGA@PLEARN.EDU.PL>,
  26047.         Lista dyskusyjna WFMH -AmigaPL <amigapl@wfmh.fiber.net.pl>,
  26048.         Lista dyskusyjna Amiga PowerPC-Dev <amigappc-dev@amiga.com.pl>
  26049. Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 08:31:39 +0100
  26050. Message-ID: <yam7384.1973.135387440@mail.supermedia.pl>
  26051. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  26052. Organization: Union Systems
  26053. Subject: Lightwave for Amiga is going on!!! (fwd)
  26054. MIME-Version: 1.0
  26055. Content-Type: text/plain
  26056.  
  26057. *** Forwarded message, originally written by Michael Burkhardt on 21-Mar-98
  26058. ***
  26059. Hi list-members,
  26060.  
  26061. a good news from Petro Tyschtschenko: Lightwave is going to be developed
  26062. again for Amiga! This is the result of a meeting of Petro and Newtek.
  26063. They told him that Dweight, who is against Amiga is fired. Now Don Pence
  26064. is our man. He will continue Lightwave developing and updating.
  26065.  
  26066. Now we should ask Don what are the further plans for the Amiga. It is a
  26067. very big chance for the Amiga. And it could be now possible to get
  26068. PPC-Lightwave because AMIGA International Inc. has decided for 680x0 +
  26069. PPC dual processor boards from Phase 5 for further Amigas.
  26070.  
  26071. It should be our and the journalist's job to ask Don for all news we can
  26072. get. I have mailed him and I hope he will answer fast.
  26073.  
  26074. With a Lightwave which is the same on Amiga and PC there is the chance
  26075. to get out of a forgotten hole. Therefore I think we should all work for
  26076. and believe to Petro Tyschtschenko. He is a great man who want's to get
  26077. back the market Commodore lost. And Lightwave could help him.
  26078.  
  26079. I hope my english isn't as bad as I think myself.
  26080.  
  26081. Please ask Don at Newtek: don_pence@newtek.com
  26082.  
  26083. *** End of forwarded message  ***
  26084.  
  26085. The future is brighter...
  26086.  
  26087. Docent
  26088.  
  26089. --
  26090. When the gods want to punish you, they answer your prayers.  - O. Wilde
  26091.  
  26092.  
  26093. From owner-amigapl  Sat Mar 21 22:19:42 1998
  26094. Received: from friko.onet.pl (friko.onet.pl [194.204.191.9]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA01675 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 22:02:51 +0100 (MET)
  26095. Received: from robert_n (ppp@pppa96.poznan.tpnet.pl [194.204.178.96])
  26096.           by friko.onet.pl (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP
  26097.       id WAA22978 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 22:00:45 +0100
  26098. From: Robert Nowak <robert_n@friko.onet.pl>
  26099. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  26100. Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 21:58:40 +0100
  26101. Message-ID: <yam7384.2020.2015085088@priv.onet.pl>
  26102. In-Reply-To: <01bd542f$ec624060$fdfefe01@mk>
  26103. X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview3 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
  26104. Subject: Re: PPC do A1200
  26105. MIME-Version: 1.0
  26106. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  26107. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  26108.  
  26109. Cze=B6=E6.
  26110.  
  26111. Mam pytanie do u=BFytkownik=F3w kart Blizzard PPC 603e.
  26112. Czy w tej karcie trzeba obsadza=E6 sloty SIMM parami takich samych pami=EA=
  26113. ci,
  26114. czy wystarczy 1 SIMM, lub dwa r=F3=BFnej wielko=B6ci?
  26115.  
  26116. Z tego co s=B3ysza=B3em w CyberStormachPPC konieczne jest obsadzanie SIMM=
  26117. =F3w parami
  26118. tak jak w PC i interesuje mnie, czy tak samo jest w Blizzardach.
  26119.  
  26120.  ----------------
  26121.    Robert Nowak
  26122.  
  26123.  E-Mail:  robert_n@priv.onet.pl
  26124.  WWW:     http://friko.onet.pl/pi/amiga_pl
  26125.  
  26126.    A-1200T/1.7GB/1230IV50/32MB Fast RAM.
  26127.  
  26128.  "Amiga is indestructible - Amiga is alive!"
  26129.  
  26130.  
  26131. From owner-amigapl  Sat Mar 21 22:49:38 1998
  26132. Received: from plum.dwd.interkom.pl (dwd.interkom.pl [195.150.21.98]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA01718 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 22:42:27 +0100 (MET)
  26133. Received: from jinks.home (pppa29.krakow.tpnet.pl [195.116.249.31])
  26134.     by plum.dwd.interkom.pl (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA03821
  26135.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 22:43:46 +0100
  26136. Received: from localhost (kamil@localhost)
  26137.     by jinks.home (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id SAA00903
  26138.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 18:11:17 +0100
  26139. Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 18:11:16 +0100 (CET)
  26140. From: Kamil Iskra <kamil@dwd.interkom.pl>
  26141. Reply-To: Kamil Iskra <iskra@student.uci.agh.edu.pl>
  26142. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  26143. Subject: Re: Setpatch x.x
  26144. In-Reply-To: <yam7383.1531.948464@mail.pertus.com.pl>
  26145. Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.980321181038.901A-100000@jinks.home>
  26146. MIME-Version: 1.0
  26147. Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-2
  26148. Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE
  26149.  
  26150. On Fri, 20 Mar 1998, Adam Moszumanski wrote:
  26151.  
  26152. > Czy na A1200 - 39.106 powinno si=EA u=BFywa=E6 systemowego
  26153. > Setpatch'a, czy te=BF mo=BFe najnowsz=B1 wersj=EA?
  26154.  
  26155. Sugeruje raczej najnowsza dostepna wersje. Poprawia bledy znalezione juz
  26156. po wypuszczeniu OS 3.0.
  26157.  
  26158. / Kamil Iskra    AmigaOS  Linux/i386  Linux/m68k               \
  26159. | GeekGadgets GCC maintainer   UNIX system administrator       |
  26160. | iskra@student.uci.agh.edu.pl  kiskra@ernie.icslab.agh.edu.pl |
  26161. \ kamil@dwd.interkom.pl   http://student.uci.agh.edu.pl/~iskra /
  26162.  
  26163. From owner-amigapl  Sat Mar 21 22:49:58 1998
  26164. Received: from plum.dwd.interkom.pl (dwd.interkom.pl [195.150.21.98]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA01720 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 22:42:33 +0100 (MET)
  26165. Received: from jinks.home (pppa29.krakow.tpnet.pl [195.116.249.31])
  26166.     by plum.dwd.interkom.pl (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA03827
  26167.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 22:43:49 +0100
  26168. Received: from localhost (kamil@localhost)
  26169.     by jinks.home (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id SAA00905
  26170.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 18:13:11 +0100
  26171. Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 18:13:11 +0100 (CET)
  26172. From: Kamil Iskra <kamil@dwd.interkom.pl>
  26173. Reply-To: Kamil Iskra <iskra@student.uci.agh.edu.pl>
  26174. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  26175. Subject: Re: Amiga nadal ma sie dobrze
  26176. In-Reply-To: <yam7383.1835.122448424@mail.union.org.pl>
  26177. Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.980321181153.901B-100000@jinks.home>
  26178. MIME-Version: 1.0
  26179. Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
  26180.  
  26181. On Fri, 20 Mar 1998, Artur Muszynski wrote:
  26182.  
  26183. > On 19-Mar-98, Marcin Ostrowski wrote:
  26184. > > Ma ktos cos przeciw PC pod linuxem?
  26185. > Ma. Odpada badziewny system operacyjny. Pozostaje badziewna architektura
  26186.  
  26187. Chcialbym miec taka badziewna architekture na Amidze w tej cenie.
  26188.  
  26189. > i
  26190. > procesor z archaicznym assemblerem.
  26191.  
  26192. Nikt normalny piszac normalne programy pod UNIXem asemblera nie uzywa.
  26193. Niech wiec sie martwi kompilator, od tego w koncu jest.
  26194.  
  26195. / Kamil Iskra    AmigaOS  Linux/i386  Linux/m68k               \
  26196. | GeekGadgets GCC maintainer   UNIX system administrator       |
  26197. | iskra@student.uci.agh.edu.pl  kiskra@ernie.icslab.agh.edu.pl |
  26198. \ kamil@dwd.interkom.pl   http://student.uci.agh.edu.pl/~iskra /
  26199.  
  26200. From owner-amigapl  Sat Mar 21 23:19:40 1998
  26201. Received: from butler.medianet.pl (root@butler.medianet.com.pl [195.116.184.2]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA01781 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 23:08:22 +0100 (MET)
  26202. Received: from mail.union.org.pl (virtual.medianet.pl [195.116.184.254])
  26203.     by butler.medianet.pl (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA02109
  26204.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 23:09:21 +0100 (MET)
  26205. Received: from union.org.pl (dial-20.medianet.pl [195.116.185.20])
  26206.     by mail.union.org.pl (8.8.6/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA10733
  26207.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 23:06:50 GMT
  26208. From: Tomasz Muszynski <thom@union.org.pl>
  26209. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  26210. Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 23:00:57 +0100
  26211. Message-ID: <yam7384.2896.118552552@mail.union.org.pl>
  26212. In-Reply-To: <199803211822.TAA03695@arka.mtl.pl>
  26213. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  26214. Organization: Union WHQ
  26215. Subject: Re: mUSASHI and AmigaOS
  26216. MIME-Version: 1.0
  26217. X-ISO-CONVERTED: Yam_ISO2 1.05 (02.11.97) (c) Silver Dream !
  26218. X-YAMISO-UPDATE: ftp://wfmh.man.szczecin.pl/pub/yam_iso2/
  26219. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  26220. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  26221.  
  26222. On 21-Mar-98, Adam Zaparcinski wrote:
  26223. > Projekt, nad kt=F3rym obecnie pracuj=EA ma jak dot=B1d nieca=B3e 1000 l=
  26224. inii kodu
  26225. (w
  26226. > C+MUI) i trzy pliki ze =BCr=F3d=B3ami wi=EAc jestem jeszcze programisty=
  26227. cznym
  26228. > knypkiem
  26229. > ale pracuj=EA nad tym. Co powiesz gdy przekrocz=EA te 5000 linii (nie l=
  26230. icz=EA
  26231. > komentarzy) bo pisze mi si=EA =B3atwo i wszystko wskazuje na to, =BFe d=
  26232. alej te=BF
  26233. > b=EAdzie =B3atwo i bez zwis=F3w?
  26234.  
  26235. Jak napiszesz program ktory ma 30000 linii to mozemy porozmawiac o zwisac=
  26236. h,
  26237. bledach itp. Moj GadToolsBox v3 ma obecnie 27659 (w tym 5914 jest
  26238. wygenerowane) linii kodu, czyli 37 plikow + inkludy ktorych nie doliczale=
  26239. m i
  26240. problemy zaczynaja sie pojawiac. Troche trudno jest przy tej ilosci kodu
  26241. opanowac wszystkie przypadki braku pamieci, jej prawidlowego zwalniania, =
  26242. itp
  26243. gadgetow, ktore wplywaja na niesmiecaca prace programu. Bardzo tu pomaga
  26244. Enforcer + FindHit bez ktorych bedziesz myslal, ze program dziala bezbled=
  26245. nie
  26246. az tu nagle...
  26247.  
  26248. PS: Wszystkich ktorzy czekaja na nowa wersje GTB v3 informuje, ze program=
  26249.  
  26250. jest juz praktycznie skonczony. Jest tylko jeden blad (he he sa ich nawet=
  26251.  
  26252. miliony :) ktory musze wpierw usunac zanim wypuszcze ten program. Ow blad=
  26253.  
  26254. znajduje sie w page.gadget do ktorego autor stracil kody zrodlowe i bede
  26255. zmuszony do napisania wlasnego odpowiednika, a to moze troche potrwac :(
  26256.  
  26257. -- =
  26258.  
  26259.  
  26260.     // Tomasz Muszynski (Thom/Union) | mailto:thom@union.org.pl        //=
  26261.  
  26262. \\ // C programmer on AMIGA and PC   | http://www.union.org.pl/thom/  //
  26263.  \// Using: A4000/040@25/18MB/EGS/Ariadne, P166/32MB, P166/16MB, Mac //
  26264.     ----------------- Author of GadToolsBox v3 -----------------------
  26265.  
  26266. From owner-amigapl  Sat Mar 21 23:19:47 1998
  26267. Received: from butler.medianet.pl (root@butler.medianet.com.pl [195.116.184.2]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA01780 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 23:08:22 +0100 (MET)
  26268. Received: from mail.union.org.pl (virtual.medianet.pl [195.116.184.254])
  26269.     by butler.medianet.pl (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA02110
  26270.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 23:09:21 +0100 (MET)
  26271. Received: from union.org.pl (dial-20.medianet.pl [195.116.185.20])
  26272.     by mail.union.org.pl (8.8.6/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA10739
  26273.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 23:06:57 GMT
  26274. From: Tomasz Muszynski <thom@union.org.pl>
  26275. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  26276. Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 22:33:25 +0100
  26277. Message-ID: <yam7384.1285.118552552@mail.union.org.pl>
  26278. In-Reply-To: <199803210919.KAA31629@piast.pertus.com.pl>
  26279. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  26280. Organization: Union WHQ
  26281. Subject: Re: baza dbf
  26282. MIME-Version: 1.0
  26283. Content-Type: text/plain
  26284.  
  26285. On 21-Mar-98, Arkadiusz Winiarek wrote:
  26286. > Moze ktos wie, czy istnieje baza na Ami rozpoznajaca pliki *.dbf z
  26287. SuperBazy
  26288. > (mi.1.15) na pYcY?
  26289.  
  26290. Jest takie cus. Nazywa sie to SuperBase.
  26291.  
  26292. -- 
  26293.  
  26294.     // Tomasz Muszynski (Thom/Union) | mailto:thom@union.org.pl        //
  26295. \\ // C programmer on AMIGA and PC   | http://www.union.org.pl/thom/  //
  26296.  \// Using: A4000/040@25/18MB/EGS/Ariadne, P166/32MB, P166/16MB, Mac //
  26297.     ----------------- Author of GadToolsBox v3 -----------------------
  26298.  
  26299. From owner-amigapl  Sun Mar 22 00:19:53 1998
  26300. Received: from butler.medianet.pl (root@butler.medianet.com.pl [195.116.184.2]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA01889 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 00:03:39 +0100 (MET)
  26301. Received: from mail.union.org.pl (virtual.medianet.pl [195.116.184.254])
  26302.     by butler.medianet.pl (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA03223
  26303.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 00:04:39 +0100 (MET)
  26304. Received: from union.org.pl (Konrad@dial-94.medianet.pl [195.116.185.94])
  26305.     by mail.union.org.pl (8.8.6/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA12285
  26306.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 00:03:22 GMT
  26307. From: Konrad Bielski <dominor@union.org.pl>
  26308. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  26309. Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 00:01:37 +0100
  26310. Message-ID: <yam7385.1861.141510608@mail.union.org.pl>
  26311. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.3a [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  26312. Subject: Re: PPC do A1200
  26313. MIME-Version: 1.0
  26314. X-ISO-CONVERTED: Yam_ISO2 1.04 (28.10.97) (c) Silver Dream !
  26315. X-YAMISO-UPDATE: ftp://wfmh.man.szczecin.pl/pub/yam_iso2/
  26316. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  26317. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  26318.  
  26319. Dnia 21-Mar-98, Robert Nowak napisa=B3:
  26320.  
  26321. >czy wystarczy 1 SIMM, lub dwa r=F3=BFnej wielko=B6ci?
  26322.  
  26323. Wystarczy jeden, jesli zas obsadzasz dwa banki wazne
  26324. jest aby SIMMy mialy taka sama szybkosc.
  26325.  
  26326. Hej,
  26327. -- =
  26328.  
  26329.                Konrad Bielski
  26330.         E-mail: dominor@union.org.pl
  26331. Pracuje na: A4000T 604e/200 - 060/50 98MB CV64/3D
  26332.             A1200T 060/50 10MB
  26333.                 =
  26334.  
  26335.  
  26336. From owner-amigapl  Sun Mar 22 00:49:37 1998
  26337. Received: from zskl.p.lodz.pl (root@zskl.p.lodz.pl [194.181.171.3]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA01955 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 00:47:38 +0100 (MET)
  26338. Received: from cksr.ac.bialystok.pl (krashan@pppa24.bialystok.tpnet.pl [194.204.183.24]) by zskl.p.lodz.pl (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA30238 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 00:46:42 +0100
  26339. From: Grzegorz Kraszewski <krashan@cksr.ac.bialystok.pl>
  26340. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  26341. Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 00:40:16 +0100
  26342. Message-ID: <yam7385.821.2015850680@zskl.p.lodz.pl>
  26343. In-Reply-To: <yam7383.40.19594880@smtp.polbox.com>
  26344. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  26345. Organization: BlaBla
  26346. Subject: Re: HDEnv itp...
  26347. MIME-Version: 1.0
  26348. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  26349. X-ISO-UPDATE: ftp://wfmh.man.szczecin.pl/pub/yam_iso2/
  26350. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  26351.  
  26352. Dnia 20-Mar-98, Adam Lewandowski napisal:
  26353.  
  26354. Na poczatek witam wszystkich, to m=F3j pierwszy list na list=EA :-).
  26355.  
  26356. > Co s=B1dzicie o #istnieniu# takich program=F3w jak HDEnv i jemu podobny=
  26357. ch?
  26358.  
  26359. O *istnieniu* nic nie s=B1dz=EA. Win 95 te=BF istnieje i co z tego. Natom=
  26360. iast je=B6li
  26361. chodzi o u=BFywanie, to wybra=B3em swego czasu rozwi=B1zanie si=B3owe - E=
  26362. NV: na dysku
  26363. twardym. Ale potem doszed=B3em do wniosku, =BFe najprostsze rozwi=B1zanie=
  26364.  problemu
  26365. ENV-a o wielko=B6ci 460 kB to kupienie 8 MB fastu :-). Je=BFeli znowu mi
  26366. zabraknie, to kupi=EA 16...
  26367.  
  26368. Krashan
  26369.  
  26370. -- =
  26371.  
  26372. Grzegorz Kraszewski
  26373. on the scene Krashan/BlaBla
  26374. krashan@cksr.ac.bialystok.pl   to 1-Jul-1998
  26375. Amiga1200/030@50/10MB/HDD/CD/33.6kbps
  26376.  
  26377. BLABLA - IT MEANS SYSTEM FRIENDLY
  26378. -----------------------------------
  26379.  
  26380. From owner-amigapl  Sun Mar 22 00:49:45 1998
  26381. Received: from zskl.p.lodz.pl (root@zskl.p.lodz.pl [194.181.171.3]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA01957 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 00:47:54 +0100 (MET)
  26382. Received: from cksr.ac.bialystok.pl (krashan@pppa24.bialystok.tpnet.pl [194.204.183.24]) by zskl.p.lodz.pl (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA30243 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 00:46:45 +0100
  26383. From: Grzegorz Kraszewski <krashan@cksr.ac.bialystok.pl>
  26384. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  26385. Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 00:42:16 +0100
  26386. Message-ID: <yam7385.847.2015850680@zskl.p.lodz.pl>
  26387. In-Reply-To: <199803210919.KAA31629@piast.pertus.com.pl>
  26388. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  26389. Organization: BlaBla
  26390. Subject: Re: baza dbf
  26391. MIME-Version: 1.0
  26392. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  26393. X-ISO-UPDATE: ftp://wfmh.man.szczecin.pl/pub/yam_iso2/
  26394. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  26395.  
  26396. Dnia 21-Mar-98, Arkadiusz Winiarek napisal:
  26397.  
  26398. > Moze ktos wie, czy istnieje baza na Ami rozpoznajaca pliki *.dbf
  26399.  
  26400. Nie jestem pewien, ale zdaje si=EA, =BFe SuperBasePro 4 mia=B3a tak=B1 mo=
  26401. =BFliwo=B6=E6.
  26402. Niestety ju=BF od dawna nie mam tego programu.
  26403.  
  26404. Krashan
  26405.  
  26406. -- =
  26407.  
  26408. Grzegorz Kraszewski
  26409. on the scene Krashan/BlaBla
  26410. krashan@cksr.ac.bialystok.pl   to 1-Jul-1998
  26411. Amiga1200/030@50/10MB/HDD/CD/33.6kbps
  26412.  
  26413. BLABLA - IT MEANS SYSTEM FRIENDLY
  26414. -----------------------------------
  26415.  
  26416. From owner-amigapl  Sun Mar 22 01:19:41 1998
  26417. Received: from bbs.chip.pl (bbs.chip.pl [195.116.104.14]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA01989 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 00:51:43 +0100 (MET)
  26418. Received: from [194.204.139.63] by bbs.chip.pl id 5ee0.wrk; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 00:47:28 +0100
  26419. From: Adam Lewandowski <leware3@polbox.com>
  26420. Reply-To: leware3@polbox.com
  26421. To: amigapl@amiga.com.pl
  26422. Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 00:27:20 +0100
  26423. Message-ID: <yam7385.1046.19588248@smtp.polbox.com>
  26424. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  26425. Organization: Chata privata
  26426. Subject: IxEmul.library
  26427. MIME-Version: 1.0
  26428. X-ISO-CONVERTED: Yam_ISO2 1.06 (17.11.97) (c) Silver Dream !
  26429. X-YAMISO-UPDATE: ftp://wfmh.org.pl/pub/yam_iso2/
  26430. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  26431. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  26432.  
  26433. Cze=B6=E6!
  26434.  
  26435. Dzi=EAki za bibliotek=EA!!!
  26436.  
  26437. Ludzie!!! Przed wys=B3aniem plik=F3w napiszcie, =BFe chcecie co=B6 podrzu=
  26438. ci=E6 na priva!
  26439. Mia=B3em 500 kb do =B6ci=B1gni=EAcia....
  26440.  
  26441. Jeszcze raz dzi=EAki
  26442.  
  26443. LeWaR
  26444.  
  26445. -- =
  26446.  
  26447.                 -+----------------------------------------+-
  26448.                  |        LeWaR - Adam Lewandowski        |      =
  26449.  
  26450.                  | A1k2T APOLLO 040/33 34MB RAM 2,5GB HDD | =
  26451.  
  26452.                  |    Home: leware3@polbox.com            |
  26453.                  |    Work: corso@bbs.chip.pl             |              =
  26454.  
  26455.                 -+----------------------------------------+-
  26456.  
  26457. From owner-amigapl  Sun Mar 22 01:19:48 1998
  26458. Received: from bbs.chip.pl (bbs.chip.pl [195.116.104.14]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA01985 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 00:51:11 +0100 (MET)
  26459. Received: from [194.204.139.63] by bbs.chip.pl id 5e30.wrk; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 00:47:12 +0100
  26460. From: Adam Lewandowski <leware3@polbox.com>
  26461. Reply-To: leware3@polbox.com
  26462. To: amigapl@amiga.com.pl
  26463. Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 00:36:04 +0100
  26464. Message-ID: <yam7385.211.19588248@smtp.polbox.com>
  26465. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  26466. Organization: Chata privata
  26467. Subject: Re: Sterowniki do =?iso-8859-2?Q?skaner=F3w?= Mustek itp.
  26468. MIME-Version: 1.0
  26469. X-ISO-CONVERTED: Yam_ISO2 1.06 (17.11.97) (c) Silver Dream !
  26470. X-YAMISO-UPDATE: ftp://wfmh.org.pl/pub/yam_iso2/
  26471. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  26472. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  26473.  
  26474. Cze=B6=E6!
  26475.  
  26476. Przejrza=B3em doca jeszcze raz i sorry!!!
  26477. Opisywane skanery maj=B1 ko=F1c=F3wki CX i SP a to jest SCSI.
  26478. Jeszcze raz przepraszam za moje niedopatrzenie.
  26479.  
  26480. Pozdrawiam
  26481.  
  26482. LeWaR
  26483.  
  26484. -- =
  26485.  
  26486.                 -+----------------------------------------+-
  26487.                  |        LeWaR - Adam Lewandowski        |      =
  26488.  
  26489.                  | A1k2T APOLLO 040/33 34MB RAM 2,5GB HDD | =
  26490.  
  26491.                  |    Home: leware3@polbox.com            |
  26492.                  |    Work: corso@bbs.chip.pl             |              =
  26493.  
  26494.                 -+----------------------------------------+-
  26495.  
  26496. From owner-amigapl  Sun Mar 22 01:19:55 1998
  26497. Received: from bbs.chip.pl (bbs.chip.pl [195.116.104.14]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA01994 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 00:51:57 +0100 (MET)
  26498. Received: from [194.204.139.63] by bbs.chip.pl id 5f10.wrk; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 00:47:36 +0100
  26499. From: Adam Lewandowski <leware3@polbox.com>
  26500. Reply-To: leware3@polbox.com
  26501. To: amigapl@amiga.com.pl
  26502. Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 00:24:31 +0100
  26503. Message-ID: <yam7385.1551.19588248@smtp.polbox.com>
  26504. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  26505. Organization: Chata privata
  26506. Subject: HDEnv
  26507. MIME-Version: 1.0
  26508. X-ISO-CONVERTED: Yam_ISO2 1.06 (17.11.97) (c) Silver Dream !
  26509. X-YAMISO-UPDATE: ftp://wfmh.org.pl/pub/yam_iso2/
  26510. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  26511. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  26512.  
  26513. Cze=B6=E6!
  26514.  
  26515. Pozdrawiam wszystkich, kt=F3rzy odpisali na podchwytliwe pytanie.
  26516. Po co instalowa=E6 dodatkowe programy, traci=E6 kilo pami=EAci, kiedy mo=BF=
  26517. na inaczej.
  26518. Amiga to nie pYcY!
  26519. Wystarczy na dysku utworzy=E6 jaki=B6 katalog np. "SYS:ENV" lub podobnie
  26520. i do niego skierowa=E6 przypis "assign ENV: katalog_na_dysku".
  26521. Na pocz=B1tek mo=BFna skopiowa=E6 do nowego katalogu zawarto=B6=E6 ENVARC=
  26522. :.
  26523. Kompa to nie zwalnia, oszcz=EAdza si=EA czas na poszukiwaniu takich progr=
  26524. am=F3w.
  26525. Co=B6 takiego pracuje ju=BF u mnie 2 lata bez problem=F3w.
  26526.  
  26527. Mo=BFna te=BF tak : assign ENV: Envarc:  ale czasami system wywala komuni=
  26528. kat
  26529. =BFe "Object in use"
  26530.  
  26531. Tak samo mo=BFna spowodowa=E6, =BFe wyniki z gier CD32 b=EAd=B1 zapisywan=
  26532. e na dysku,
  26533. a nie w pami=EAci konsoli. =
  26534.  
  26535. Wystarczy utworzy=E6 katalog np. SYS:CD32Room i do niego przypisa=E6
  26536. urz=B1dzenie NV:. Nale=BFy posiada=E6 bibliotek=EA nonvolatile.library w =
  26537. Libs:.
  26538.  
  26539. W razie potrzeby prze=B6l=EA m=F3j startup do analizy (ale to dumnie brzm=
  26540. i ;-)!
  26541.  
  26542. Pozdrawiam
  26543.  
  26544. LeWaR
  26545. -- =
  26546.  
  26547.                 -+----------------------------------------+-
  26548.                  |        LeWaR - Adam Lewandowski        |      =
  26549.  
  26550.                  | A1k2T APOLLO 040/33 34MB RAM 2,5GB HDD | =
  26551.  
  26552.                  |    Home: leware3@polbox.com            |
  26553.                  |    Work: corso@bbs.chip.pl             |              =
  26554.  
  26555.                 -+----------------------------------------+-
  26556.  
  26557. From owner-amigapl  Sun Mar 22 07:19:38 1998
  26558. Received: from friko.onet.pl (friko.onet.pl [194.204.191.9]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA04177 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 06:58:20 +0100 (MET)
  26559. Received: from friko.onet.pl (root@pppb22.szczecin.tpnet.pl [195.205.239.22])
  26560.           by friko.onet.pl (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP
  26561.       id GAA23513 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 06:57:11 +0100
  26562. From: Roman Frontczak <namor@friko.onet.pl>
  26563. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  26564. Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 07:05:17 +0100
  26565. Message-ID: <yam7384.895.19538776@friko.onet.pl>
  26566. In-Reply-To: <yam7383.554.21397728@kki.net.pl>
  26567. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  26568. Organization: AMIGA
  26569. Subject: Re: Re[2]: Problem: Apollo 040
  26570. MIME-Version: 1.0
  26571. X-ISO-CONVERTED: Yam_ISO2 1.02 (09.10.97) (c) Silver Dream !
  26572. X-YAMISO-UPDATE: ftp://wfmh.man.szczecin.pl/pub/yam_iso2/
  26573. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  26574. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  26575.  
  26576. Dnia 20-Mar-98, Karol Bryd napisa=B3:
  26577. > On Wed, 18 Mar 1998, Krzysztof Michalski wrote:
  26578. >>> Kolega kupi=B3 za moim przyk=B3adem kart=E6 Apollo 1240/40, 32 MB EDO=
  26579. =2E
  26580. >>> Od samego pocz=B1tku wieczne resety, walidacje oraz dyskoteka. =
  26581.  
  26582.  
  26583. >Podobnie jest z p=B3yt=B1 1.d.1, je=B6li macie tak=B1 wersj=E6 p=B3yty t=
  26584. o NIE
  26585. >kupujcie kart Apollo (przynajmniej 040/40MHz), nie b=E6d=B1 dzia=B3a=E6,=
  26586.  w og=F3le...
  26587.  
  26588. Dziwne ju=BF drugi raz czytam na li=B6cie o tym , =BFe z p=B3yt=B1 1D1 Ap=
  26589. ollo 040/40 nie
  26590. b=EAdzie dzia=B3a=E6, a ja mam tak=B1 konfiguracj=EA i wszystko chodzi be=
  26591. z problem=F3w
  26592.  od chwili jej pod=B3=B1czenia.
  26593. Tak=B1 sam=B1 p=B3yt=EA 1D1 ma kolega, Apollo 040/40 podrasowany z 040/25=
  26594.  i te=BF nie
  26595. narzeka, wi=EAc daj sobie spok=F3j z ostrze=BFeniami tego typu.
  26596.  
  26597. Pozdrawiam
  26598. -- =
  26599.  
  26600.                                    Roman Frontczak  SWINOUJSCIE
  26601.                                   e-mail :   namor@friko.onet.pl
  26602.                                 """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
  26603.                                 A1240/40T_16MB_HD_CD2x_1438S_33600
  26604.  
  26605. From owner-amigapl  Sun Mar 22 12:19:39 1998
  26606. Received: from piast.pertus.com.pl (root@[195.116.191.6]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA04718 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 11:54:37 +0100 (MET)
  26607. Received: from pertus.com.pl (Moszum@ppp223.legnica.tpnet.pl [195.116.255.223])
  26608.     by piast.pertus.com.pl (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id LAA09304
  26609.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 11:57:20 +0100
  26610. From: Adam Moszumanski <moszum@pertus.com.pl>
  26611. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  26612. Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 11:35:15 +0100
  26613. Message-ID: <yam7385.792.517944@mail.pertus.com.pl>
  26614. In-Reply-To: <yam7385.1551.19588248@smtp.polbox.com>
  26615. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  26616. Subject: Re: HDEnv
  26617. MIME-Version: 1.0
  26618. X-ISO-CONVERTED: Yam_ISO2 1.06 (17.11.97) (c) Silver Dream !
  26619. X-YAMISO-UPDATE: ftp://wfmh.org.pl/pub/yam_iso2/
  26620. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  26621. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  26622.  
  26623. Dnia 22-Mar-98, Adam Lewandowski napisa=B3:
  26624.  
  26625. >Cze=B6=E6!
  26626.  
  26627. Witam!
  26628.  
  26629. >Wystarczy na dysku utworzy=E6 jaki=B6 katalog np. "SYS:ENV" lub podobnie=
  26630.  
  26631. >i do niego skierowa=E6 przypis "assign ENV: katalog_na_dysku".
  26632. >Na pocz=B1tek mo=BFna skopiowa=E6 do nowego katalogu zawarto=B6=E6 ENVAR=
  26633. C:.
  26634.  
  26635. No dobrze, ale to nie b=EAdzie dok=B3adne odzwierciedlenie systemowego
  26636. ENV: (lub symulowanego przez np. HappyEnv). Chyba, =BFe wstawisz
  26637. do startup-sequence co=B6 takiego:
  26638.  
  26639. Assign ENV: Gdzie=B6:tam/
  26640. >Delete ENV:#? ALL
  26641. Copy ENVARC: ENV: ALL
  26642.  
  26643. W innym przypadku, programy kt=F3rym dasz opcj=EA USE, b=EAd=B1 Tobie si=EA=
  26644.  
  26645. =B3adowa=E6 w=B3a=B6nie z tymi tymczasowymi preferencjami. Natomiast popr=
  26646. awka
  26647. przeze mnie przedstawiona cholernie wyd=B3u=BFa bootowanie systemu
  26648. - wyoba=BC sobie ENVARC: maj=B1cy 0.5 Mb ma=B3ych pliczk=F3w. Rozwi=B1zan=
  26649. ie
  26650. problemu - disk/misc/HappyEnv (to dla zaoszcz=EAdzenia czasu ;) )
  26651. __________
  26652.   *Moszum*
  26653.  
  26654. From owner-amigapl  Sun Mar 22 13:19:44 1998
  26655. Received: from rose.man.poznan.pl (root@rose.man.poznan.pl [150.254.173.3]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA04855 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 13:12:36 +0100 (MET)
  26656. Received: from buteo.man.bialystok.pl (buteo.man.bialystok.pl [194.181.132.1])
  26657.     by rose.man.poznan.pl (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA20204
  26658.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 13:11:40 +0100 (MET)
  26659. Received: from cksr.ac.bialystok.pl  by buteo.man.bialystok.pl  (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4)
  26660.     id NAA00506; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 13:07:39 +0100
  26661. Received: from localhost by cksr.ac.bialystok.pl  (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4)
  26662.     id NAA04215; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 13:09:31 +0100
  26663. Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 13:09:31 +0100 (MET)
  26664. From: "Marcin Juszkiewicz (Szczepan/BlaBla)" <szczepan@cksr.ac.bialystok.pl>
  26665. X-Sender: szczepan@cksr
  26666. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  26667. Subject: Re: HDEnv itp...
  26668. In-Reply-To: <01bd54ae$2415e7e0$fdfefe01@mk>
  26669. Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.96.980322130503.4116A-100000@cksr>
  26670. MIME-Version: 1.0
  26671. Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-2
  26672. Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE
  26673.  
  26674. On Sat, 21 Mar 1998, Wojciech Kocjan wrote:
  26675.  
  26676. ->>Co s=E2dzicie o #istnieniu# takich programow jak HDEnv i jemu podobnych?
  26677. ->>Pytanie z kr=EBgu podchwytliwych, ale napiszcie.
  26678. ->
  26679. ->Ja korzystam z HappyENVa i jestem zadowolony. Zaden programik jeszcze sie
  26680. ->nie oburzyl.
  26681.  
  26682.   Wczoraj HappyENV poszedl sie ciac z mojej sekwencji - powody :
  26683.   1. Aby MCP mi sie odpalalo musialem kopiowac jego prefsy z ENVARC: do
  26684.      ENV: przed jego odpaleniem bo H mu ich nie podawal.
  26685.   2. Snoopdos stawal jak funkcji GetVar, ktora jak wiadomo pobiera zmienna
  26686.      srodowiskowa z ENV:=20
  26687.  
  26688.  Ale ogolnie programik jest niezly..
  26689.  
  26690. ------
  26691.  Marcin Juszkiewicz (Szczepan/BlaBla)   *Team Amiga*
  26692.  szczepan@cksr.ac.bialystok.pl  http://cksr.ac.bialystok.pl/szczepan/
  26693.  A1200 BlizzIv 2+8MB RAM 425MB HDD
  26694.  Author of MultiView for OS 2.0+ -> Aminet:util/sys/2b_mv_os2_x.lha
  26695.  
  26696. From owner-amigapl  Sun Mar 22 13:19:52 1998
  26697. Received: from rose.man.poznan.pl (root@rose.man.poznan.pl [150.254.173.3]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA04814 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 12:58:07 +0100 (MET)
  26698. Received: from buteo.man.bialystok.pl (buteo.man.bialystok.pl [194.181.132.1])
  26699.     by rose.man.poznan.pl (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA18502;
  26700.     Sun, 22 Mar 1998 12:56:57 +0100 (MET)
  26701. Received: from cksr.ac.bialystok.pl  by buteo.man.bialystok.pl  (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4)
  26702.     id MAA00491; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 12:52:56 +0100
  26703. Received: from localhost by cksr.ac.bialystok.pl  (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4)
  26704.     id MAA03870; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 12:54:27 +0100
  26705. Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 12:54:27 +0100 (MET)
  26706. From: "Marcin Juszkiewicz (Szczepan/BlaBla)" <szczepan@cksr.ac.bialystok.pl>
  26707. X-Sender: szczepan@cksr
  26708. To: Lista dyskusyjna uzytkownikow komputerow AMIGA <AMIGA@plearn.edu.pl>,
  26709.         AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  26710. Subject: Boot z karty ?
  26711. Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.96.980322125032.3702A-100000@cksr>
  26712. MIME-Version: 1.0
  26713. Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
  26714.  
  26715.  
  26716.  CZesc !
  26717.  
  26718.   Ostatnio dnia pewnego gdy weszlem do BootMenu zauwazylem, ze moge
  26719. wylaczyc wszystkie urzadzenia (myslalem, ze jedno musi zostac). Jakiez
  26720. bylo moje zdziwienie gdy po starcie bez sekwenji uzyskalem WB screen z
  26721. zawieszonym taskiem o nazwie skladajacej sie ze smieci. Czy ktos moze mi
  26722. powiedziec z czego amiga bootowala ?? (z karty ?)
  26723.  
  26724. Poza tym : czy ktos moze podeslac mi dokladny opis procedury bootowania
  26725. Amigi ?? (jak jet sprawdzany sprzet/processor itp..).
  26726.  
  26727. Z gory dzieki..
  26728.   
  26729. ------
  26730.  Marcin Juszkiewicz (Szczepan/BlaBla)   *Team Amiga*
  26731.  szczepan@cksr.ac.bialystok.pl  http://cksr.ac.bialystok.pl/szczepan/
  26732.  A1200 BlizzIv 2+8MB RAM 425MB HDD
  26733.  Author of MultiView for OS 2.0+ -> Aminet:util/sys/2b_mv_os2_x.lha
  26734.  
  26735. From owner-amigapl  Sun Mar 22 13:49:39 1998
  26736. Received: from mx1.polbox.com (mx1.polbox.com [195.116.5.16]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA04894 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 13:23:35 +0100 (MET)
  26737. Received: from polbox.com (LeWaR@ppp71.bydgoszcz.tpnet.pl [194.204.139.71])
  26738.     by mx1.polbox.com (8.8.8/rev-A0) with SMTP id NAA16208
  26739.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 13:27:39 +0100
  26740. From: Adam Lewandowski <leware3@polbox.com>
  26741. Reply-To: leware3@polbox.com
  26742. To: amigapl@amiga.com.pl
  26743. Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 13:11:53 +0100
  26744. Message-ID: <yam7385.2651.19577168@smtp.polbox.com>
  26745. In-Reply-To: <yam7385.792.517944@mail.pertus.com.pl>
  26746. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  26747. Organization: Chata privata
  26748. Subject: Re[2]: HDEnv
  26749. MIME-Version: 1.0
  26750. X-ISO-CONVERTED: Yam_ISO2 1.06 (17.11.97) (c) Silver Dream !
  26751. X-YAMISO-UPDATE: ftp://wfmh.org.pl/pub/yam_iso2/
  26752. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  26753. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  26754.  
  26755. Dnia 22-Mar-98, Adam Moszumanski napisa=B3:
  26756.  
  26757. >No dobrze, ale to nie b=EAdzie dok=B3adne odzwierciedlenie systemowego
  26758. >ENV: (lub symulowanego przez np. HappyEnv). Chyba, =BFe wstawisz
  26759. >do startup-sequence co=B6 takiego:
  26760.  
  26761. >Assign ENV: Gdzie=B6:tam/
  26762. >>Delete ENV:#? ALL
  26763. >Copy ENVARC: ENV: ALL
  26764.  
  26765. >W innym przypadku, programy kt=F3rym dasz opcj=EA USE, b=EAd=B1 Tobie si=
  26766. =EA
  26767. >=B3adowa=E6 w=B3a=B6nie z tymi tymczasowymi preferencjami. Natomiast pop=
  26768. rawka
  26769. >przeze mnie przedstawiona cholernie wyd=B3u=BFa bootowanie systemu
  26770. >- wyoba=BC sobie ENVARC: maj=B1cy 0.5 Mb ma=B3ych pliczk=F3w. Rozwi=B1za=
  26771. nie
  26772. >problemu - disk/misc/HappyEnv (to dla zaoszcz=EAdzenia czasu ;) )
  26773. >__________
  26774. >  *Moszum*
  26775.  
  26776. No niby tak, ale nie wszystkie programy korzystaj=B1 z USE w ten spos=F3b=
  26777. =2E
  26778. Przynajmniej mi to niesprawia =BFadnego problemu. System skonfigurowa=B3e=
  26779. m
  26780. optymalnie (chyba:-) i nie grzebi=EA w konfigach.
  26781.  
  26782. Pozdrawiam
  26783.  
  26784. LeWaR
  26785.  
  26786. -- =
  26787.  
  26788.                 -+----------------------------------------+-
  26789.                  |        LeWaR - Adam Lewandowski        |      =
  26790.  
  26791.                  | A1k2T APOLLO 040/33 34MB RAM 2,5GB HDD | =
  26792.  
  26793.                  |    Home: leware3@polbox.com            |
  26794.                  |    Work: corso@bbs.chip.pl             |              =
  26795.  
  26796.                 -+----------------------------------------+-
  26797.  
  26798. ----- [ REKLAMA / ADVERTISEMENT ] ----------------------------------------
  26799. Lubisz film?! Wiec na co czekasz? Przylacz sie do FILMWEBU!
  26800. Pierwszy Polski Serwis Filmowy w Internecie  http://www.filmweb.pl
  26801. --------------------------------------------------------------------------
  26802.  
  26803. From owner-amigapl  Sun Mar 22 15:19:39 1998
  26804. Received: from plum.dwd.interkom.pl (dwd.interkom.pl [195.150.21.98]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA05073 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 14:59:54 +0100 (MET)
  26805. Received: from jinks.home (pppa251.krakow.tpnet.pl [195.205.251.13])
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  26807.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 15:01:15 +0100
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  26810.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 13:44:57 +0100
  26811. Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 13:44:55 +0100 (CET)
  26812. From: Kamil Iskra <kamil@dwd.interkom.pl>
  26813. Reply-To: Kamil Iskra <iskra@student.uci.agh.edu.pl>
  26814. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  26815. Subject: Re: Odp: Odp: mUSASHI and AmigaOS
  26816. In-Reply-To: <199803211822.TAA03695@arka.mtl.pl>
  26817. Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.980322131811.861A-100000@jinks.home>
  26818. MIME-Version: 1.0
  26819. Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-2
  26820. Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE
  26821.  
  26822. On Sat, 21 Mar 1998, Adam Zaparcinski wrote:
  26823.  
  26824. > >[1] nietrywialny: wiecej niz 5 plikow ze zrodlami, wiecej niz 5000 linii
  26825. > >kodu.
  26826. > Projekt, nad kt=F3rym obecnie pracuj=EA ma jak dot=B1d nieca=B3e 1000 lin=
  26827. ii kodu (w
  26828. > C+MUI) i trzy pliki ze =BCr=F3d=B3ami wi=EAc jestem jeszcze programistycz=
  26829. nym knypkiem
  26830. > ale pracuj=EA nad tym. Co powiesz gdy przekrocz=EA te 5000 linii (nie lic=
  26831. z=EA
  26832. > komentarzy) bo pisze mi si=EA =B3atwo i wszystko wskazuje na to, =BFe dal=
  26833. ej te=BF
  26834. > b=EAdzie =B3atwo i bez zwis=F3w?
  26835.  
  26836. Powiem, ze masz porzadny, uwazny styl programowania. Albo nie: powiem, ze
  26837. Ci nie wierze. Bo nie wierze, ze mozna bez jednego zwisu napisac
  26838. dzialajacy program majacy 5000 linii kodu.
  26839.  
  26840. Pozwolisz, ze sie wytlumacze z tych 5000 linii. W rzeczywistosci chodzi mi
  26841. nie tyle o dlugosc, co o uzycie zaawansowanych opcji jezyka, takich jak
  26842. dynamiczne przydzielanie pamieci i arytmetyka na wskaznikach (pewnie
  26843. niektorzy sie teraz usmiechaja widzac to "zaawansowanych" - ale tak na
  26844. dobra sprawe to te elementy sa zrodlem wiekszosci problemow). Uzycie tego
  26845. typu elementow na duza skale w programie majacym 1000 linii jest po prostu
  26846. malo prawdopodobne, tym bardziej jezeli jest to program z GUI. 1000 linii
  26847. to rowniez na tyle malo, ze program mozna w calosci "objac umyslem".
  26848. Problemy zaczynaja sie, kiedy ma sie wiecej niz kilka-kilkanascie typow
  26849. danych i funkcji - wtedy nie sposob juz o wszystkim pamietac. No, i
  26850. jeszcze jak na dodatek czlowiek sie z jakichs przyczyn spieszy, bo go ktos
  26851. tam pogania, to o bledy naprawde nietrudno.
  26852.  
  26853. Cos jeszcze chodzi mi po glowie. Programujac pod Linuxem czasami linkuje z
  26854. biblioteka Electric Fence. Ta biblioteka zapewnia mi, ze wyjscie poza
  26855. przydzielony dynamicznie obszar - zarowno zapis, jak i odczyt, beda
  26856. natychmiast wychwycone. Jest to zrobione przez programowanie MMU. Czy ktos
  26857. wie moze o istnieniu podobnych mechanizmow pod AmigaOS?  Oczywiscie wiem o
  26858. MungWallu i temu podobnych, ale one reaguja z opoznieniem (dopiero przy
  26859. zwalnianiu pamieci) i zauwazaja tylko zapis.
  26860.  
  26861. / Kamil Iskra    AmigaOS  Linux/i386  Linux/m68k               \
  26862. | GeekGadgets GCC maintainer   UNIX system administrator       |
  26863. | iskra@student.uci.agh.edu.pl  kiskra@ernie.icslab.agh.edu.pl |
  26864. \ kamil@dwd.interkom.pl   http://student.uci.agh.edu.pl/~iskra /
  26865.  
  26866. From owner-amigapl  Sun Mar 22 16:49:40 1998
  26867. Received: from sun10.ci.pwr.wroc.pl (baran@sun10.ci.pwr.wroc.pl [156.17.10.1]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA05331 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 16:20:57 +0100 (MET)
  26868. Received: (from baran@localhost)
  26869.     by sun10.ci.pwr.wroc.pl (8.8.7/8.8.7) id QAA22007;
  26870.     Sun, 22 Mar 1998 16:20:03 +0100 (MET)
  26871. Message-ID: <19980322162001.08279@sun10.ci.pwr.wroc.pl>
  26872. Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 16:20:01 +0100
  26873. From: "Miroslaw 'Jubal' Baran, NM" <baran@knm.org.pl>
  26874. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  26875. Subject: Re: HDEnv itp...
  26876. Mail-Followup-To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  26877. References: <01bd54ae$2415e7e0$fdfefe01@mk> <Pine.GSO.3.96.980322130503.4116A-100000@cksr>
  26878. Mime-Version: 1.0
  26879. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  26880. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  26881. X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i
  26882. In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.3.96.980322130503.4116A-100000@cksr>; from Marcin Juszkiewicz (Szczepan/BlaBla) on Sun, Mar 22, 1998 at 01:09:31PM +0100
  26883. Organization: Klub Nieszkodliwych Maniakow
  26884. X-Motto: ,,...nawet jesli wbije Ci noz w plecy, pamietaj, ze bedzie to czyste pchniecie.''
  26885. X-Alchemy: Pany!
  26886. X-System: SunOS 5.5
  26887. X-PGP-key: mail(x) baran@sun10.ci.pwr.wroc.pl -s"send: pgp key" </dev/null
  26888.  
  26889. 22.03.98 pisze Marcin Juszkiewicz (Szczepan/BlaBla) (szczepan@cksr.ac.bialy=
  26890. stok.pl):
  26891.  
  26892. >   1. Aby MCP mi sie odpalalo musialem kopiowac jego prefsy z ENVARC: do
  26893. >      ENV: przed jego odpaleniem bo H mu ich nie podawal.
  26894.  
  26895. Nie zauwa=BFy=B3em takiego zachowania...
  26896.  
  26897. >   2. Snoopdos stawal jak funkcji GetVar, ktora jak wiadomo pobiera zmienna
  26898. >      srodowiskowa z ENV:=20
  26899.  
  26900. Nie zauwa=BFy=B3em -- jeste=B6 pewien, =BFe b=B3=B1d _nie jest_ zwi=B1zany =
  26901. na
  26902. przyk=B3ad z MCP?
  26903. =20
  26904. pozdrawiam,
  26905. Jubal
  26906.  
  26907. --=20
  26908. =3D   // =3D mailto:baran@knm.org.pl =3D http://www.ci.pwr.wroc.pl/~baran/ =
  26909. =3D
  26910. =3D \X/  =3D Miroslaw L. Baran =3D Jubal =3D medical student =3D ALCHEMY PA=
  26911. NY! =3D
  26912.  
  26913.                     Everybody ought to have a friend.
  26914. From owner-amigapl  Sun Mar 22 17:19:39 1998
  26915. Received: from www.kki.net.pl (www.kki.net.pl [195.116.9.70]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA05504 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 17:11:47 +0100 (MET)
  26916. Received: from kki.net.pl (STEAD@pmone231.lodz.pdi.net [195.116.162.231])
  26917.     by www.kki.net.pl (8.8.7/8.8.7.ver6) with SMTP id RAA12249
  26918.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 17:11:45 +0100
  26919. From: Stefan Koralewski <stead@kki.net.pl>
  26920. Reply-To: Stefan Koralewski <stead@kki.net.pl>
  26921. To: amigapl@amiga.com.pl
  26922. Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 17:09:58 -0500
  26923. Message-ID: <yam7385.2894.1749623016@kki.net.pl>
  26924. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.2 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  26925. Organization: STEAD
  26926. Subject: A3640 w A3000
  26927. MIME-Version: 1.0
  26928. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
  26929. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  26930.  
  26931. Dzien dobry wszystkim :)))
  26932.  
  26933. To moj pierwszy...
  26934. Pytanko: Czy karta Commodore A3640 (karta procesora 040/25 do Amig A4000 =
  26935. i A3000)
  26936. pasuje do A3000 z tzw. SoftKick-iem ? Oczywiscie po zakupieniu sprzetoweg=
  26937. o kickstartu 3.1
  26938. do A3000.To wazne !!! - wiec jezeli wiesz cos o tym lub masz kontakt do k=
  26939. ogos kto moze cos o tym wiedziec - napisz !!!
  26940. Pytanko nr. 2 : Zna ktos mail do SilverDreama (on podobno cos wie o tym) =
  26941. ?
  26942.  
  26943. Pozdrawiam
  26944.  
  26945. |
  26946. |        // STEad Stefan Koralewski   A-12oo/o3o/5o/32Mb |         =
  26947.  
  26948. |       // steAD Adam Tynenski        CDR/4.8Gb Hdd/SCSI |
  26949. | _ /\ // stead@kki.net.pl            M1538s/HDFlop/28.8 |
  26950. | \\\/// stead@lodz.pdi.net                              |
  26951. |  \\// PPC603e/250/40 cooming soon czyli budziet bystra |       =
  26952.  
  26953. |   ""                                                   |  =
  26954.  
  26955. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
  26956. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
  26957. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
  26958. -- =
  26959.  
  26960. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
  26961. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
  26962. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
  26963. | STEAD is registered and trademark and bla, bla, bla... |
  26964. |         _                                              |
  26965. |        // STEad Stefan Koralewski   A-12oo/o3o/5o/32Mb |         =
  26966.  
  26967. |       // steAD Adam Tynenski        CDR/4.8Gb Hdd/SCSI |
  26968. | _ /\ // stead@kki.net.pl            M1538s/HDFlop/28.8 |
  26969. | \\\/// stead@lodz.pdi.net                              |
  26970. |  \\// PPC603e/250/40 cooming soon czyli budziet bystra |       =
  26971.  
  26972. |   ""                                                   |  =
  26973.  
  26974. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
  26975. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
  26976. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
  26977.  
  26978. From owner-amigapl  Sun Mar 22 17:19:47 1998
  26979. Received: from www.kki.net.pl (www.kki.net.pl [195.116.9.70]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA05502 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 17:11:42 +0100 (MET)
  26980. Received: from kki.net.pl (STEAD@pmone231.lodz.pdi.net [195.116.162.231])
  26981.     by www.kki.net.pl (8.8.7/8.8.7.ver6) with SMTP id RAA12230
  26982.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 17:11:41 +0100
  26983. From: Stefan Koralewski <stead@kki.net.pl>
  26984. Reply-To: Stefan Koralewski <stead@kki.net.pl>
  26985. To: amigapl@amiga.com.pl
  26986. Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 17:09:31 -0500
  26987. Message-ID: <yam7385.1555.1749623016@kki.net.pl>
  26988. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.2 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  26989. Organization: STEAD
  26990. Subject: Wstepniak w MA 3/98
  26991. MIME-Version: 1.0
  26992. Content-Type: text/plain
  26993.  
  26994.  
  26995. Zapraszam wszystkich na adres http://www.dom.vr.pl/~drchiry.
  26996. To w zwiazku z Magazynem Amiga nr. 3 - konkretnie chodzi o wstepniak.
  26997. Nie wszyscy wpadacie na IRC lub czytacie MA, wiec wpadnijcie pod ten adres.
  26998. Jest tam dokladnie opisane o co chodzi.
  26999.  
  27000.  
  27001.  
  27002.  
  27003. |        // STEad Stefan Koralewski   A-12oo/o3o/5o/32Mb |         
  27004. |       // steAD Adam Tynenski        CDR/4.8Gb Hdd/SCSI |
  27005. | _ /\ // stead@kki.net.pl            M1538s/HDFlop/28.8 |
  27006. | \\\/// stead@lodz.pdi.net                              |
  27007. |  \\// PPC603e/250/40 cooming soon czyli budziet bystra |       
  27008. -- 
  27009. ==========================================================
  27010. | STEAD is registered and trademark and bla, bla, bla... |
  27011. |         _                                              |
  27012. |        // STEad Stefan Koralewski   A-12oo/o3o/5o/32Mb |         
  27013. |       // steAD Adam Tynenski        CDR/4.8Gb Hdd/SCSI |
  27014. | _ /\ // stead@kki.net.pl            M1538s/HDFlop/28.8 |
  27015. | \\\/// stead@lodz.pdi.net                              |
  27016. |  \\// PPC603e/250/40 cooming soon czyli budziet bystra |       
  27017. |   ""                                                   |  
  27018. ==========================================================
  27019.  
  27020. From owner-amigapl  Sun Mar 22 18:19:40 1998
  27021. Received: from merkury.piotrkow.tpsa.pl (merkury.piotrkow.tpsa.pl [194.204.159.4]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA05663 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 18:01:08 +0100 (MET)
  27022. Received: from www.tpnet.pl (radmar@ppp192.gorzow.tpnet.pl [195.116.254.192])
  27023.     by merkury.piotrkow.tpsa.pl (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA24816;
  27024.     Sun, 22 Mar 1998 18:00:50 +0100 (MET)
  27025. From: "Marcin (radmar) Wasilewski" <radmar@box43.gnet.pl>
  27026. To: amiga@plearn.edu.pl, amigapl@amiga.com.pl
  27027. Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 18:00:05 +0200
  27028. Message-ID: <yam7385.250.1747116064@www.tpnet.pl>
  27029. X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
  27030. Subject: Amiga RC5 Team
  27031. MIME-Version: 1.0
  27032. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  27033. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
  27034.  
  27035.      Je¶li na li¶cie jest kto¶ zainteresowany wsparciem Amiga RC5 Team to
  27036. s³u¿ê pomoc±. Mogê podes³aæ dzia³±j±ce i stabilne wersje klientów dla
  27037. procesorów MC680x0 (gdy¿ te, które znajduj± siê obecnie na sieci zbyt
  27038. stabilne nie s±) co mog³o sporo osób zniechêciæ.
  27039.  
  27040.      Amiga RC5 Team, znajduje siê obecnie na siódmym miejscu. Przed nami
  27041. znajduje siê na poz. 6. Team Win32 (Windows). Przy wsparciu Amigowców
  27042. (przez du¿e A) jest du¿a szansa aby przegoniæ Windows-owców i utrzeæ im
  27043. trochê nosa.
  27044.  
  27045.      Je¶li kto¶ o tym projekcie jeszcze nie s³ysza³, to zachêcam do
  27046. przeczytania stosownego artyku³u w ACS 2/98.
  27047.  
  27048.      Dla zainteresowanych podaje tak¿e adresy www:
  27049.  
  27050.      Amiga RC5 Team: http://homepage.cistron.nl/~ttavoly/rc5/index.html
  27051.      RC5 serwer:     http://rc5stats.distributed.net
  27052.  
  27053.      Na ty drugim serwerze mo¿na obadaæ aktualne wyniki dru¿ynowe oraz
  27054. indywidualne.
  27055.  
  27056. PS.  Aby wspomagaæ Amiga RC5 Team wcale nie musisz wisieæ ca³y czas na
  27057. sieci. Nawet je¶li ko¿ystasz z sieci na uczelni mo¿esz w domu zaprzêgn±æ
  27058. Amy do tej po¿ytecznej pracy. :)))
  27059.      A je¶li masz w domu Peceta to on tak¿e mo¿e siê przydaæ a jego moc
  27060. obliczeniowa mo¿e s³u¿yæ Amidze.
  27061.  
  27062.  
  27063. --
  27064.      Marcin (Radmar) Wasilewski
  27065.         radmar@box43.gnet.pl
  27066.  
  27067. A1260T/18Mb./3.2G HDD/NEC 4x4 CD-ROM
  27068.  
  27069.  
  27070.  
  27071. From owner-amigapl  Sun Mar 22 19:19:38 1998
  27072. Received: from grendel.sylaba.poznan.pl (root@sylaba-gw.man.poznan.pl [150.254.163.201]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA05855 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 18:53:19 +0100 (MET)
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  27075.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 18:52:22 +0100 (CET)
  27076. From: Bartlomiej Dubik <baxter@sylaba.poznan.pl>
  27077. Reply-To: baxter@sylaba.poznan.pl
  27078. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  27079. Date: Thu, 05 Jan 1978 23:33:31 +0100
  27080. Message-ID: <yam4.1562.1747757152@grendel.sylaba.poznan.pl>
  27081. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  27082. Subject: Wielozadaniowona blasze
  27083. MIME-Version: 1.0
  27084. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
  27085. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  27086.  
  27087. Bardzo przepraszam ze troche nie na temat, ale potrzebuje tego do artykul=
  27088. u o
  27089. Amidze.
  27090. Wiec Adminie wybacz.
  27091. Czy na blasze mozna, tak jak na Amidze, jednoczesnie pisac i wysylac list=
  27092. y,
  27093. ciagnac FTP i
  27094. przeglada=EA www?
  27095. Jeszcze raz sory.
  27096. -- =
  27097.  
  27098. Bartlomiej Dubik
  27099. baxter@sylaba.poznan.pl
  27100. E/BOX/1200/030/50MHz/16MB/1.2GB/0.2GB/CDx4......itd
  27101. MOTOROLA ON BOARD !!!!!!!
  27102.  
  27103. From owner-amigapl  Sun Mar 22 20:19:39 1998
  27104. Received: from butler.medianet.pl (root@butler.medianet.com.pl [195.116.184.2]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA06007 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 20:14:17 +0100 (MET)
  27105. Received: from mail.union.org.pl (virtual.medianet.pl [195.116.184.254])
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  27110.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 20:12:27 GMT
  27111. From: Artur Muszynski <amst@union.org.pl>
  27112. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  27113. Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 01:54:09 +0100
  27114. Message-ID: <yam7385.488.122651944@mail.union.org.pl>
  27115. In-Reply-To: <yam7384.2590.4721288@friko2.onet.pl>
  27116. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  27117. Organization: Union
  27118. Subject: Re: 603, 604 i G3
  27119. MIME-Version: 1.0
  27120. X-ISO-CONVERTED: Yam_ISO2 1.05 (02.11.97) (c) Silver Dream !
  27121. X-YAMISO-UPDATE: ftp://wfmh.man.szczecin.pl/pub/yam_iso2/
  27122. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  27123. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  27124.  
  27125. On 22-Mar-98, Grzegorz Heldt wrote:
  27126. > Serio 603 ma 32 bit. transfer miedzy ram a procem ?.
  27127. > Myslalem ze sa to w pelni 64 bit procki ! =
  27128.  
  27129. > A co z architektura wew? tez 32 bity ????? !!!!! no nie ,bo zaczne zbie=
  27130. rac
  27131. > na 3000 a nie na ppc.
  27132.  
  27133. Jakie tu herezje ludzie na tej li=B6cie wypisuj=B1, to ludzkie poj=EAcie
  27134. przechodzi. Czy tak trudno od czasu do czasu pogrzeba=E6 po sieci i poczy=
  27135. ta=E6
  27136. to i tamto? Gdyby Motorola w ko=F1cu zrobi=B3a procesor 64-bitowy (jakim =
  27137. mia=B3a
  27138. by=E6 620), to nikt by si=EA =BFadnym tam G3 nie podnieca=B3. Jak chcesz =
  27139. PE=A3NE 64
  27140. bity, to kup sobie peceta z Alf=B1. 603e ma owszem, szyn=EA danych 64 bit=
  27141.  (jak
  27142. wi=EAkszo=B6=E6 obecnie produkowanych procesor=F3w), ale jej nie wykorzys=
  27143. tuje (tego
  27144. nie wiem na pewno, bo nie mam, ale skoro mo=BFna u=BFywa=E6 jednego simma=
  27145. , to
  27146. pewnie tak jest).
  27147.  
  27148. > 4 instrukcje na takt !!!! bardzo prosze mnie oswiecic bo nie moge tego
  27149. > pojac !!! .Wydaje mi sie ze cos Ci sie pomylilo !! To ze proc PPC maja =
  27150.  
  27151. > przetwarzanie potokowe oznacza ze rzeczywiscie beda 4 instrukcje =
  27152.  
  27153. > ale chyba na cykl a nie takt !!.Jesli sie myle to prosze mNIE zbesztac!=
  27154. !.
  27155.  
  27156. Z user's manuala: "As many as four instructions can be issued per clock
  27157. cycle." Chodzi wi=EAc wyra=BCnie o cykl zegara, czyli takt.
  27158. I tak chodzi o to, =BFe PPC wykonuje 4 instrukcje JEDNOCZE=A6NIE. Przetwa=
  27159. rzanie
  27160. potokowe to jedno (to mia=B3 juz 68020), lecz mo=BFliwo=B6=E6 wykonywania=
  27161.  wielu
  27162. instrukcji na raz ppc zawdzi=EAcza r=F3wnie=BF (a nawet g=B3=F3wnie) arch=
  27163. itekturze
  27164. superskalarnej - ppc ma 2 jednostki ca=B3kowitoliczbowe, 1 dla instrukcji=
  27165.  
  27166. z=B3o=BFonych (dzielenie itp) i 1 fpu. Do tego dochodzi jednostka do pred=
  27167. ykcji
  27168. skok=F3w i load/store unit, tak wi=EAc w szczycie 604 mo=BFe rozpocz=B1=E6=
  27169.  lub
  27170. zako=F1czy=E6 jednocze=B6nie 6 instrukcji. Chyba nie najgorzej jak na zal=
  27171. edwie
  27172. 32-bitowy procesor ? :-)
  27173.  
  27174. Pozdrawiam,
  27175.  
  27176. --
  27177.  
  27178.    // Artur Muszynski (AMST/UNION) A4000/040/EGS
  27179.  \//  e-mail: amst@union.org.pl
  27180.  
  27181. From owner-amigapl  Sun Mar 22 20:19:52 1998
  27182. Received: from host.pkp.wroc.pl (host.pkp.wroc.pl [156.17.194.29]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA06005 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 20:14:06 +0100 (MET)
  27183. Received: from host.pkp.wroc.pl (Tygrys@pppa160.wroclaw.tpnet.pl [195.205.240.166])
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  27185.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 20:14:39 +0100 (CET)
  27186. From: Piotr Walaszek <tygrysek@friko.onet.pl>
  27187. Reply-To: tygrysek@friko.onet.pl
  27188. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  27189. Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 16:41:59 +0100
  27190. Message-ID: <yam7385.2968.1748087984@host.pkp.wroc.pl>
  27191. In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.3.96.980322130503.4116A-100000@cksr>
  27192. X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview3 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
  27193. Organization: PKP
  27194. Subject: Re[2]: HDEnv itp...
  27195. MIME-Version: 1.0
  27196. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  27197. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  27198.  
  27199. Dnia 22-Mar-98, Marcin Juszkiewicz (Szczepan/BlaBla) napisa=B3:
  27200.  
  27201. >  1. Aby MCP mi sie odpalalo musialem kopiowac jego prefsy z ENVARC: do
  27202. >     ENV: przed jego odpaleniem bo H mu ich nie podawal.
  27203. >  2. Snoopdos stawal jak funkcji GetVar, ktora jak wiadomo pobiera zmien=
  27204. na
  27205. >     srodowiskowa z ENV: =
  27206.  
  27207.  
  27208. Uzyj HDENV
  27209.  
  27210. Skaza =BFyje !
  27211. -- =
  27212.  
  27213.  
  27214.     "`-/")_.-'"``-._      Grrrrrr, :)
  27215.     . . `: -._    )-:-,_       Amiga E/Box 1230/50, 18MB, 2.5Gb + 6.3Gb h=
  27216. dd,
  27217.    (*_,)'  _  )`-.\  ``-'      CD4x4, NEC Multisync3D, ZII i CV64/3d
  27218.   _.- _..-_/ / ((.'       tygrysek@friko.onet.pl        tygrysek@pkp.wroc=
  27219. =2Epl
  27220. _((,.-'  ((,/             http://friko.onet.pl/wr/tygrysek
  27221.  
  27222. From owner-amigapl  Sun Mar 22 20:49:39 1998
  27223. Received: from friko2.onet.pl (root@friko2.onet.pl [194.204.191.6]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA06046 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 20:26:48 +0100 (MET)
  27224. Received: from friko2.onet.pl (Spidi@pppb31.wroclaw.tpnet.pl [195.116.241.161])
  27225.           by friko2.onet.pl (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP
  27226.       id UAA06635 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 20:24:28 +0100
  27227. From: Artur Gadawski <spidi@box43.gnet.pl>
  27228. Reply-To: spidi@box43.gnet.pl
  27229. To: AmigaPL - List uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  27230. Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 20:12:36 +0100
  27231. Message-ID: <yam7385.1812.5544856@friko2.onet.pl>
  27232. X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview3 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
  27233. Subject: gcrdisk.device
  27234. MIME-Version: 1.0
  27235. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  27236. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  27237.  
  27238. Witam.
  27239.  
  27240. Mam pytanie zwi=B1zane gcrdisk.device dla stacji w Amigach z Escomu.
  27241. Mianowicie czy kto=B6 ma to i gdzie to mo=BFna znale=B6=E6.
  27242.  
  27243. Odpowiedzi prosz=EA na priva.
  27244.  
  27245. Pozdrawiam
  27246. Spidi
  27247. -- =
  27248.  
  27249.  Artur *'Spidi'* Gadawski
  27250.  mailto: spidi@box43.gnet.pl  spidi@friko2.onet.pl
  27251.  A1230T/40 600MB 10MB ZII CDx4 BEST 33k6 HP_DJ400L
  27252.  
  27253. From owner-amigapl  Sun Mar 22 21:19:44 1998
  27254. Received: from onet.pl (root@onet.pl [194.204.188.6]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA06111 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 20:51:31 +0100 (MET)
  27255. Received: from mk (ppp-wct183.katowice.tpnet.pl [194.204.181.183])
  27256.     by onet.pl (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA13802
  27257.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 20:49:12 +0100 (MET)
  27258. From: "Wojciech Kocjan" <kocjan@ka.onet.pl>
  27259. To: "AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi" <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  27260. Subject: DEV: Pauzowanie dzwieku
  27261. Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 20:48:44 +0100
  27262. Message-ID: <01bd55cb$87510d80$fdfefe01@mk>
  27263. MIME-Version: 1.0
  27264. Content-Type: text/plain;
  27265.     charset="iso-8859-2"
  27266. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
  27267. X-Priority: 3
  27268. X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
  27269. X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3
  27270. X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3
  27271.  
  27272. Cze¶æ!
  27273.  
  27274. Mam takie pytanko do szanownych listowiczów:
  27275.  
  27276. Je¶li odtwarzam d¼wiêk w kolko (ioa_Cycles=0) i potrzebuje go zatrzymac, to
  27277. co musze uczynic, aby go z powrotem zaczac odtwarzac od momentu, w ktorym
  27278. przerwalem.
  27279.  
  27280. Wojciech Kocjan
  27281. mailto:kocjan@ka.onet.pl        http://priv.onet.pl/ka/wkocjan/
  27282. GSM: +48 601 473237             SMS mailto:48601473237@text.plusgsm.pl
  27283. AUTHOR OF AStartV4, ANETGUI, NEWFMT.LIBRARY and other things
  27284. ---
  27285. "Software suppliers are trying to make their software packages more
  27286. 'user-friendly'.... Their best approach, so far, has been to take
  27287. all the old brochures, and stamp the words, 'user-friendly' on the cover."
  27288. -- Bill Gates, Pres., Microsoft, Inc.
  27289.  
  27290. From owner-amigapl  Sun Mar 22 22:19:48 1998
  27291. Received: from zskl.p.lodz.pl (root@zskl.p.lodz.pl [194.181.171.3]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA06230 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 22:15:49 +0100 (MET)
  27292. Received: from cksr.ac.bialystok.pl (krashan@pppa18.bialystok.tpnet.pl [194.204.183.18]) by zskl.p.lodz.pl (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA05157 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 22:14:43 +0100
  27293. From: Grzegorz Kraszewski <krashan@cksr.ac.bialystok.pl>
  27294. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  27295. Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 22:12:52 +0100
  27296. Message-ID: <yam7385.2624.2015194896@cksr.ac.bialystok.pl>
  27297. In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.3.96.980322131811.861A-100000@jinks.home>
  27298. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  27299. Organization: BlaBla
  27300. Subject: Re: Odp: Odp: mUSASHI and AmigaOS
  27301. MIME-Version: 1.0
  27302. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  27303. X-ISO-UPDATE: ftp://wfmh.man.szczecin.pl/pub/yam_iso2/
  27304. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  27305.  
  27306. Dnia 22-Mar-98, Kamil Iskra napisal:
  27307.  
  27308. >> Projekt, nad kt=F3rym obecnie pracuj=EA ma jak dot=B1d nieca=B3e 1000 =
  27309. linii kodu (w
  27310. >> C+MUI) i trzy pliki ze =BCr=F3d=B3ami
  27311.  
  27312. > Bo nie wierze, ze mozna bez jednego zwisu napisac
  27313. > dzialajacy program majacy 5000 linii kodu.
  27314.  
  27315. Z tym si=EA zgadzam.
  27316.  
  27317. > o uzycie zaawansowanych opcji jezyka, takich jak
  27318. > dynamiczne przydzielanie pamieci i arytmetyka na wskaznikach [...]
  27319. > te elementy sa zrodlem wiekszosci problemow).
  27320. > Problemy zaczynaja sie, kiedy ma sie wiecej niz kilka-kilkanascie typow=
  27321.  
  27322. > danych i funkcji - wtedy nie sposob juz o wszystkim pamietac.
  27323.  
  27324. Na to jest jeden skuteczny spos=F3b - programowanie w stylu obiektowym (n=
  27325. p.
  27326. korzystaj=B1c z BOOPSI, co przy okazji =B6wietnie pasuje do MUI). Je=BFel=
  27327. i dobrze
  27328. okre=B6li si=EA klasy i ich interfejs i b=EAdzie si=EA przestrzega=E6 zas=
  27329. ady ukrywania
  27330. danych prywatnych, to nie ma problemu. Dodatkowo taka technika u=B3atwia
  27331. modyfikacj=EA programu. Aha i jeszcze jedno - programowanie obiektowe uwa=
  27332. lnia (a
  27333. przynajmniej mnie uwalnia :-) od zabawy w arytmetyk=EA wska=BCnikow=B1, w=
  27334.  ko=F1cu po
  27335. co=B6 Stefan Stuntz takie klasy jak MUIC_Family stworzy=B3...
  27336.  
  27337. Krashan
  27338.  
  27339. -- =
  27340.  
  27341. Grzegorz Kraszewski
  27342. on the scene Krashan/BlaBla
  27343. krashan@cksr.ac.bialystok.pl   to 1-Jul-1998
  27344. Amiga1200/030@50/10MB/HDD/CD/33.6kbps
  27345.  
  27346. BLABLA - IT MEANS SYSTEM FRIENDLY
  27347. -----------------------------------
  27348.  
  27349. From owner-amigapl  Sun Mar 22 22:19:54 1998
  27350. Received: from zskl.p.lodz.pl (root@zskl.p.lodz.pl [194.181.171.3]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA06228 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 22:15:29 +0100 (MET)
  27351. Received: from cksr.ac.bialystok.pl (krashan@pppa18.bialystok.tpnet.pl [194.204.183.18]) by zskl.p.lodz.pl (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA05141 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 22:14:24 +0100
  27352. From: Grzegorz Kraszewski <krashan@cksr.ac.bialystok.pl>
  27353. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  27354. Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 21:56:39 +0100
  27355. Message-ID: <yam7385.1971.2015194896@cksr.ac.bialystok.pl>
  27356. In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.3.96.980321181038.901A-100000@jinks.home>
  27357. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  27358. Organization: BlaBla
  27359. Subject: Re[2]: Setpatch x.x
  27360. MIME-Version: 1.0
  27361. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  27362. X-ISO-UPDATE: ftp://wfmh.man.szczecin.pl/pub/yam_iso2/
  27363. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  27364.  
  27365. Dnia 21-Mar-98, Kamil Iskra napisal:
  27366.  
  27367. >> Czy na A1200 - 39.106 powinno si=EA u=BFywa=E6 systemowego
  27368. >> Setpatch'a, czy te=BF mo=BFe najnowsz=B1 wersj=EA?
  27369.  
  27370. > Sugeruje raczej najnowsza dostepna wersje.
  27371.  
  27372. Ja mam A1200 z Kickiem 39.106 i u=BCywam SetPatcha 43.6 (chyba jest na ra=
  27373. zie
  27374. najnowszy?). Po zmianie SetPatcha ze starego na 43.6 nie mia=B3em =BFadny=
  27375. ch
  27376. problem=F3w.
  27377.  
  27378. Krashan
  27379.  
  27380. -- =
  27381.  
  27382. Grzegorz Kraszewski
  27383. on the scene Krashan/BlaBla
  27384. krashan@cksr.ac.bialystok.pl   to 1-Jul-1998
  27385. Amiga1200/030@50/10MB/HDD/CD/33.6kbps
  27386.  
  27387. BLABLA - IT MEANS SYSTEM FRIENDLY
  27388. -----------------------------------
  27389.  
  27390. From owner-amigapl  Sun Mar 22 22:20:03 1998
  27391. Received: from zskl.p.lodz.pl (root@zskl.p.lodz.pl [194.181.171.3]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA06226 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 22:15:25 +0100 (MET)
  27392. Received: from cksr.ac.bialystok.pl (krashan@pppa18.bialystok.tpnet.pl [194.204.183.18]) by zskl.p.lodz.pl (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA05135 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 22:14:20 +0100
  27393. From: Grzegorz Kraszewski <krashan@cksr.ac.bialystok.pl>
  27394. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  27395. Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 21:37:32 +0100
  27396. Message-ID: <yam7385.1632.2015194896@cksr.ac.bialystok.pl>
  27397. In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.3.96.980321181153.901B-100000@jinks.home>
  27398. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  27399. Organization: BlaBla
  27400. Subject: Re: Amiga nadal ma sie dobrze
  27401. MIME-Version: 1.0
  27402. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  27403. X-ISO-UPDATE: ftp://wfmh.man.szczecin.pl/pub/yam_iso2/
  27404. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  27405.  
  27406. Dnia 21-Mar-98, Kamil Iskra napisal:
  27407.  
  27408. >>> Ma ktos cos przeciw PC pod linuxem?
  27409. >> i procesor z archaicznym assemblerem.
  27410. > Nikt normalny piszac normalne programy pod UNIXem asemblera nie uzywa.
  27411. > Niech wiec sie martwi kompilator, od tego w koncu jest.
  27412.  
  27413. Jednak archaiczny asembler powoduje nieefektywno=B6=E6 kodu tworzonego pr=
  27414. zez ten
  27415. kompilator i wi=EAksz=B1 jego obj=EAto=B6=E6. A to oznacza zwyczajnie wi=EA=
  27416. ksz=B1 cen=EA
  27417. komputera (szybki proc + du=BFy twardziel).
  27418.  
  27419. Krashan
  27420.  
  27421. -- =
  27422.  
  27423. Grzegorz Kraszewski
  27424. on the scene Krashan/BlaBla
  27425. krashan@cksr.ac.bialystok.pl   to 1-Jul-1998
  27426. Amiga1200/030@50/10MB/HDD/CD/33.6kbps
  27427.  
  27428. BLABLA - IT MEANS SYSTEM FRIENDLY
  27429. -----------------------------------
  27430.  
  27431. From owner-amigapl  Sun Mar 22 22:20:09 1998
  27432. Received: from server.fiber.net.pl (server.fiber.net.pl [195.117.208.101]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA06212 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 22:04:07 +0100 (MET)
  27433. Received: from amiga.com.pl (pppa221.szczecin.tpnet.pl [194.204.141.221])
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  27436.           Sun, 22 Mar 1998 22:03:47 +0100
  27437. From: Miloslaw Smyk <thorgal@amiga.com.pl>
  27438. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  27439. Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 21:52:40 +0100
  27440. Message-ID: <yam7385.2013.142887184@fiber.net.pl>
  27441. In-Reply-To: <yam7385.1551.19588248@smtp.polbox.com>
  27442. X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview3 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
  27443. Organization: W.F.M.H.
  27444. Subject: Re: HDEnv
  27445. MIME-Version: 1.0
  27446. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  27447. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  27448.  
  27449. hi,
  27450.  
  27451. Dnia 22-Mar-98, Adam Lewandowski rzek=B3 co nast=EApuje:
  27452.  
  27453. > Po co instalowa=E6 dodatkowe programy, traci=E6 kilo pami=EAci, kiedy m=
  27454. o=BFna
  27455. inaczej.
  27456. > Amiga to nie pYcY!
  27457. > Wystarczy na dysku utworzy=E6 jaki=B6 katalog np. "SYS:ENV" lub podobni=
  27458. e
  27459. > i do niego skierowa=E6 przypis "assign ENV: katalog_na_dysku".
  27460. > Na pocz=B1tek mo=BFna skopiowa=E6 do nowego katalogu zawarto=B6=E6 ENVA=
  27461. RC:.
  27462.  
  27463. Brawo. W tym momencie funkcja "USE" w ogromnej wi=EAkszo=B6ci program=F3w=
  27464.  
  27465. konfiguracyjnych stanie si=EA r=F3wnowa=BFna funkcji "SAVE". Jak na pYcY.=
  27466.  
  27467.  
  27468. > Kompa to nie zwalnia, oszcz=EAdza si=EA czas na poszukiwaniu takich pro=
  27469. gram=F3w.
  27470.  
  27471. Wi=EAcej czasu zu=BFyj=EA pisz=B1c ten list, ni=BF straci=B3em szukaj=B1c=
  27472.  HappyENVa.
  27473.  
  27474. > Mo=BFna te=BF tak : assign ENV: Envarc:  ale czasami system wywala komu=
  27475. nikat
  27476. > =BFe "Object in use"
  27477.  
  27478. S=B3odka Panienko! =AFe te=BF te je=B3opy z C=3D na to nie wpad=B3y! To b=
  27479. y dopiero by=B3
  27480. system!
  27481.  
  27482.  
  27483. Mi=B3ek
  27484. -- =
  27485.  
  27486. mailto:thorgal@amiga.com.pl   |  "Man in the Moon and other weird things"=
  27487.  -
  27488. http://wfmh.org.pl/~thorgal/  |  see it at http://wfmh.org.pl/~thorgal/Mo=
  27489. on/
  27490.  
  27491. From owner-amigapl  Sun Mar 22 22:20:16 1998
  27492. Received: from server.fiber.net.pl (server.fiber.net.pl [195.117.208.101]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA06210 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 22:04:06 +0100 (MET)
  27493. Received: from amiga.com.pl (pppa221.szczecin.tpnet.pl [194.204.141.221])
  27494.           by server.fiber.net.pl (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with SMTP
  27495.           id AAC19550 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>;
  27496.           Sun, 22 Mar 1998 22:03:46 +0100
  27497. From: Miloslaw Smyk <thorgal@amiga.com.pl>
  27498. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  27499. Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 21:47:31 +0100
  27500. Message-ID: <yam7385.1594.142887184@fiber.net.pl>
  27501. In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.3.96.980321181153.901B-100000@jinks.home>
  27502. X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview3 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
  27503. Organization: W.F.M.H.
  27504. Subject: Re: Amiga nadal ma sie dobrze
  27505. MIME-Version: 1.0
  27506. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  27507. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  27508.  
  27509. Dnia 21-Mar-98, Kamil Iskra rzek=B3 co nast=EApuje:
  27510. > On Fri, 20 Mar 1998, Artur Muszynski wrote:
  27511. > =
  27512.  
  27513. >> On 19-Mar-98, Marcin Ostrowski wrote:
  27514. >>> Ma ktos cos przeciw PC pod linuxem?
  27515. >> Ma. Odpada badziewny system operacyjny. Pozostaje badziewna architektu=
  27516. ra
  27517. > =
  27518.  
  27519. > Chcialbym miec taka badziewna architekture na Amidze w tej cenie.
  27520.  
  27521. Tylko wtedy nie by=B3aby to ju=BF Amiga.
  27522.  
  27523. Powiedzie=E6, =BFe architektura peceta jest badziewna, to ma=B3o powiedzi=
  27524. e=E6. :)
  27525.  
  27526. Mi=B3ek
  27527. -- =
  27528.  
  27529. mailto:thorgal@amiga.com.pl   |  "Man in the Moon and other weird things"=
  27530.  -
  27531. http://wfmh.org.pl/~thorgal/  |  see it at http://wfmh.org.pl/~thorgal/Mo=
  27532. on/
  27533.  
  27534. From owner-amigapl  Sun Mar 22 23:49:54 1998
  27535. Received: from hermes.telbank.pl (vena.telbank.PL [195.136.250.210]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA06433 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 23:35:05 +0100 (MET)
  27536. Received: from bptnet.pl ([195.116.1.19]) by hermes.telbank.pl
  27537.           (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2 release (PO205-101c)
  27538.           ID# 164-43612U3000L100S0) with SMTP id AAB115
  27539.           for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 23:38:04 +0100
  27540. From: "Marek Szymanski" <szymanski@bptnet.pl>
  27541. Reply-To: tagor@wfmh.org.pl
  27542. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  27543. Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 23:16:45 +0100
  27544. Message-ID: <yam7385.2257.2020481840@vena.telbank.pl>
  27545. In-Reply-To: <yam7383.609.122327512@mail.union.org.pl>
  27546. X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview3 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
  27547. Organization: WFMH
  27548. Subject: Re[2]: AmigaOS
  27549. MIME-Version: 1.0
  27550. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  27551. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  27552.  
  27553. Cze=B6=E6 Artur,
  27554.  =
  27555.  
  27556. On 20-Mar-98, Artur Muszynski wrote: =
  27557.  
  27558.  
  27559. > Fazowy kernel staje si=EA de facto standardem, wi=EAc nie ma co
  27560. > gdyba=E6 co b=EAdzie w AmigaOS 4 (o ile w og=F3le b=EAdzie), tylko m=EA=
  27561. czy=E6
  27562. faz=EA, =BFeby
  27563. > wzi=EA=B3a si=EA=A0do roboty.
  27564.  
  27565. Chcia=B3bym dowiedzie=E6 si=EA, czy kto=B6 orientuje si=EA, jaki system (=
  27566. kt=F3ra
  27567. wersja?) b=EAdzie po 3.1? Czy OS 4.0 to osobna sprawa prowadzona przez
  27568. kogo=B6=A0innego? Popatrzcie na to:
  27569.  
  27570. *** Forwarded message, originally written by Carsten Schroeder on
  27571. 20-Mar-98 ***
  27572. AMIGA aktuell Special +++ AMIGA aktuell Special +++ AMIGA aktuell
  27573. Special
  27574.  
  27575. Haage & Partner und Phase 5 arbeiten am AMIGA OS 3.5 mit
  27576. --------------------------------------------------------
  27577.  
  27578. Petro Tyschtschenko, Praesident von AMIGA International, Inc.,
  27579. bestaetigte
  27580. soeben gegenueber AMIGA aktuell Geruechte, nach denen der
  27581. Softwarehersteller Haage & Partner und der Hardwareproduzent Phase 5
  27582. digital products an der Entwicklung des AMIGA OS 3.5 beteiligt sind.
  27583. Ausserdem arbeiten Olaf Barthel und Fleecy Moss (Mitglied beim
  27584. Industry
  27585. Council for Open AMIGA) mit. Die Regie bei der Weiterentwicklung des
  27586. AMIGA-Betriebssystems hat Jeff Schindler, Chef der
  27587. AMIGA-Entwicklungsabteilung AMIGA, Inc., USA.
  27588.  
  27589. Mehr dazu in AMIGA aktuell 4/98.
  27590.  
  27591. co w dowolnym t=B3umaczeniu:
  27592.  
  27593. Petro Tyschtschenko, Prezydent AMIGA International, Inc. potwierdzi=B3
  27594. domniemania Amigi aktuell jakoby wedle kt=F3rych producent
  27595. oprogramowania
  27596. Haage & Partner oraz producent sprz=EAtu Phase 5 uczestniczyli=A0w rozwoj=
  27597. u
  27598. AMIGA OS 3.5. Poza nimi wsp=F3=B3pracuj=B1 Olaf Barthel i Fleecy Moss
  27599. (Cz=B3onek Industry Council for Open AMIGA). Kierownictwo nad dalszym
  27600. rozwojem systemu operacyjnego AMIGI sprawuje Jeff Schindler, szef
  27601. wydzia=B3u rozwojowego AMIGI w AMIGA Inc., USA.
  27602. *** End of forwarded message.
  27603.  
  27604.  
  27605. -- =
  27606.  
  27607. Marek SZYMANSKI  Team *AMIGA*
  27608.     mailto:tagor@wfmh.org.pl
  27609.  
  27610. From owner-amigapl  Mon Mar 23 00:49:39 1998
  27611. Received: from dns1.supermedia.pl (dns1.supermedia.pl [195.116.124.17]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA06614 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 00:49:08 +0100 (MET)
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  27613. From: Peter Drapich <docent@union.org.pl>
  27614. Reply-To: Peter Drapich <docent@union.org.pl>
  27615. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  27616. Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 17:05:39 +0100
  27617. Message-ID: <yam7384.1992.137375720@mail.supermedia.pl>
  27618. In-Reply-To: <yam7385.1594.142887184@fiber.net.pl>
  27619. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  27620. Organization: Union Systems
  27621. Subject: Re: Amiga nadal ma sie dobrze
  27622. MIME-Version: 1.0
  27623. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
  27624. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  27625.  
  27626. On 22-Mar-98, Miloslaw Smyk wrote:
  27627. >Dnia 21-Mar-98, Kamil Iskra rzek=B3 co nast=EApuje:
  27628. >> On Fri, 20 Mar 1998, Artur Muszynski wrote:
  27629. >> =
  27630.  
  27631. >>> On 19-Mar-98, Marcin Ostrowski wrote:
  27632. >>>> Ma ktos cos przeciw PC pod linuxem?
  27633. >>> Ma. Odpada badziewny system operacyjny. Pozostaje badziewna architekt=
  27634. ura
  27635. >> Chcialbym miec taka badziewna architekture na Amidze w tej cenie.
  27636. >Tylko wtedy nie by=B3aby to ju=BF Amiga.
  27637. >Powiedzie=E6, =BFe architektura peceta jest badziewna, to ma=B3o powiedz=
  27638. ie=E6. :)
  27639.  
  27640. Coz, podstawowe zalozenia systemu nie zmienily sie od conajmniej 15 lat. =
  27641. Przez
  27642. lata kombinowano, wymyslano jakby to unowoczesnic, rozbudowac.  Teraz to
  27643. wyglada jak inwalida z dziesiatkami protez - dzialac dziala, ale co chwil=
  27644. a sie
  27645. przewraca...:)
  27646.  
  27647. Z drugiej strony, jesli wezmiemy dla porownania amige, to tu tak samo nie=
  27648. wiele
  27649. sie zmienilo. Na pc moim zdaniem byla nawet wieksza rewolucja - od dosu d=
  27650. o
  27651. windowsow...
  27652.  
  27653. Docent
  27654.  
  27655. --
  27656. House gets too cold in the winter?  Buy a Pentium.
  27657.  
  27658. From owner-amigapl  Mon Mar 23 00:49:47 1998
  27659. Received: from dns1.supermedia.pl (dns1.supermedia.pl [195.116.124.17]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA06612 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 00:49:03 +0100 (MET)
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  27661. From: Peter Drapich <docent@union.org.pl>
  27662. Reply-To: docent@union.org.pl
  27663. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  27664. Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 16:40:06 +0100
  27665. Message-ID: <yam7384.306.137375720@mail.supermedia.pl>
  27666. In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.3.96.980322131811.861A-100000@jinks.home>
  27667. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  27668. Organization: Union Systems
  27669. Subject: Re: Odp: Odp: mUSASHI and AmigaOS
  27670. MIME-Version: 1.0
  27671. Content-Type: text/plain
  27672.  
  27673. On 22-Mar-98, Kamil Iskra wrote:
  27674. >Cos jeszcze chodzi mi po glowie. Programujac pod Linuxem czasami linkuje z
  27675. >biblioteka Electric Fence. Ta biblioteka zapewnia mi, ze wyjscie poza
  27676. >przydzielony dynamicznie obszar - zarowno zapis, jak i odczyt, beda
  27677. >natychmiast wychwycone. Jest to zrobione przez programowanie MMU. Czy ktos
  27678. >wie moze o istnieniu podobnych mechanizmow pod AmigaOS?  Oczywiscie wiem o
  27679. >MungWallu i temu podobnych, ale one reaguja z opoznieniem (dopiero przy
  27680. >zwalnianiu pamieci) i zauwazaja tylko zapis.
  27681.  
  27682. Hmm,  np. Cyberguard z parametrem guard wykrywa wszelkie odwolania do wolnej
  27683. pamieci oraz zabezpiecza ja przed wpisaniem czegos. Niestety, predkosc
  27684. komputera z wlaczona ta opcja jest bardzo mala - mozna co najwyzej jakis
  27685. prosty testing zrobic.
  27686.  
  27687. Docent
  27688. --
  27689. I saw a man with a wooden leg, and a real foot.
  27690.  
  27691. From owner-amigapl  Mon Mar 23 07:19:40 1998
  27692. Received: from piast.pertus.com.pl (root@piast.pertus.com.pl [195.116.191.6]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA08791 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 07:15:19 +0100 (MET)
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  27695.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 07:18:49 +0100
  27696. Message-Id: <199803230618.HAA16722@piast.pertus.com.pl>
  27697. From: "Arkadiusz Winiarek" <sharky@pertus.com.pl>
  27698. To: <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  27699. Subject: Tfu M$ Internet Explorer
  27700. Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 07:17:28 +0100
  27701. X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
  27702. X-Priority: 3
  27703. X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1157
  27704. MIME-Version: 1.0
  27705. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2
  27706. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  27707.  
  27708. Hej!
  27709.  
  27710. Nie obrazcie sie, ze drecze liste takimi pytaniami, ale do rzeczy:
  27711.  
  27712. Surfuje w pracy i to na blaszce. Uzywam M$ IE v 3.01, sciagam plik ze =
  27713. strony WWW na przyklad 3MB. Zciagnalem juz 2.8MB i sru urwalo sie =
  27714. polaczenie.
  27715. Czy M$ IE ma mozliwosc zciagniecia koncowki pliku, a nie tak jak mi =
  27716. proponuje, czyli zapisania na nim (de facto sciagania od nowa od zera)?
  27717.  
  27718. A moze w koncu wezme modem do domu i podlacze do Ami? (tylko, ze te ceny =
  27719. tepsy ...)
  27720.  
  27721. Greetings!
  27722.  
  27723.          "Sharky" Arkadiusz Winiarek
  27724.                  Happy Amiga User!
  27725. A-1200T/2.1GB/1260/50/32MB Fast RAM
  27726.                  Jawor woj. legnickie
  27727. From owner-amigapl  Mon Mar 23 07:19:48 1998
  27728. Received: from piast.pertus.com.pl (root@piast.pertus.com.pl [195.116.191.6]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA08772 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 06:53:40 +0100 (MET)
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  27730.     by piast.pertus.com.pl (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id GAA16645
  27731.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 06:57:10 +0100
  27732. Message-Id: <199803230557.GAA16645@piast.pertus.com.pl>
  27733. From: "Arkadiusz Winiarek" <sharky@pertus.com.pl>
  27734. To: <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  27735. Subject: Apollo 040/40
  27736. Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 06:55:40 +0100
  27737. X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
  27738. X-Priority: 3
  27739. X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1157
  27740. MIME-Version: 1.0
  27741. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2
  27742. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  27743.  
  27744. Hej!
  27745.  
  27746. Mam kumpla, ktory ma Ami i nastepujacy problem:
  27747.  
  27748. Odpala system ze swojej Ami (plyta Amigi w wersji 1D.4) i wszystko jest =
  27749. cacy tylko, ze w pewnej chwili (zdRadzieckiej) ami przestaje reagowac na =
  27750. cokolwiek - doslownie jakby ktos zrobil sobie freze. Ani mycha, ani nic, =
  27751. ale nie ma rebootu...=20
  27752.  
  27753. Czy ktos spotkal sie z podobnym problemem?
  27754. Dajcie znac, bo to tez zawziety Amigowiec, tylko bez dostepu do sieci.
  27755.  
  27756. Thanksy
  27757.  
  27758. See yaa!
  27759.  
  27760.          "Sharky" Arkadiusz Winiarek
  27761.                  Happy Amiga User!
  27762. A-1200T/2.1GB/1260/50/32MB Fast RAM
  27763.                  Jawor woj. legnickie
  27764. From owner-amigapl  Mon Mar 23 07:19:55 1998
  27765. Received: from piast.pertus.com.pl (root@piast.pertus.com.pl [195.116.191.6]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA08774 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 06:56:33 +0100 (MET)
  27766. Received: from default (ppp167.legnica.tpnet.pl [195.116.255.167])
  27767.     by piast.pertus.com.pl (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id HAA16658
  27768.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 07:00:04 +0100
  27769. Message-Id: <199803230600.HAA16658@piast.pertus.com.pl>
  27770. From: "Arkadiusz Winiarek" <sharky@pertus.com.pl>
  27771. To: <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  27772. Subject: CrossDos 7.x
  27773. Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 06:57:33 +0100
  27774. X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
  27775. X-Priority: 3
  27776. X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1157
  27777. MIME-Version: 1.0
  27778. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2
  27779. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  27780.  
  27781. Hej !
  27782.  
  27783. Szukam kogos, kto juz CrossDosa 7.x posiada i ma cos na jego temat do =
  27784. powiedzenia
  27785.  
  27786. Greetings!
  27787.  
  27788.          "Sharky" Arkadiusz Winiarek
  27789.                  Happy Amiga User!
  27790. A-1200T/2.1GB/1260/50/32MB Fast RAM
  27791.                  Jawor woj. legnickie
  27792. From owner-amigapl  Mon Mar 23 07:20:04 1998
  27793. Received: from piast.pertus.com.pl (root@piast.pertus.com.pl [195.116.191.6]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA08776 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 06:56:35 +0100 (MET)
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  27796.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 07:00:06 +0100
  27797. Message-Id: <199803230600.HAA16663@piast.pertus.com.pl>
  27798. From: "Arkadiusz Winiarek" <sharky@pertus.com.pl>
  27799. To: <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  27800. Subject: CrossMac
  27801. Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 06:58:37 +0100
  27802. X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
  27803. X-Priority: 3
  27804. X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1157
  27805. MIME-Version: 1.0
  27806. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2
  27807. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  27808.  
  27809. Hej!
  27810.  
  27811. Chcialbym wiedziec jaka jest najnowsza wersja CrossMaca i czy mozna ja =
  27812. gdzies pociagnac?
  27813.  
  27814. Greetings!
  27815.  
  27816.          "Sharky" Arkadiusz Winiarek
  27817.                  Happy Amiga User!
  27818. A-1200T/2.1GB/1260/50/32MB Fast RAM
  27819.                  Jawor woj. legnickie
  27820. From owner-amigapl  Mon Mar 23 09:13:21 1998
  27821. Received: from localhost (carlos@localhost) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA09026 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 09:13:20 +0100 (MET)
  27822. Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 09:13:18 +0100 (MET)
  27823. From: Marcin Orlowski <carlos@amiga.com.pl>
  27824. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  27825. Subject: Re: Wstepniak w MA 3/98
  27826. In-Reply-To: <yam7385.1555.1749623016@kki.net.pl>
  27827. Message-ID: <Pine.NEB.3.96.980323091217.8866I-100000@amiga.com.pl>
  27828. MIME-Version: 1.0
  27829. Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
  27830.  
  27831. On Sun, 22 Mar 1998, Stefan Koralewski wrote:
  27832.  
  27833. > Zapraszam wszystkich na adres http://www.dom.vr.pl/~drchiry.
  27834. > To w zwiazku z Magazynem Amiga nr. 3 - konkretnie chodzi o wstepniak.
  27835. > Nie wszyscy wpadacie na IRC lub czytacie MA, wiec wpadnijcie pod ten adres.
  27836. > Jest tam dokladnie opisane o co chodzi.
  27837.  
  27838. Zeby jeszcze formualrz zechcialbyc poprawnie napisany (Sondblaster tez).
  27839.  
  27840. --
  27841.  Daddy, what FORMATTING DRIVE C: means?
  27842.  
  27843.  Marcin                     mailto:carlos@amiga.com.pl
  27844.                               http://www.wfmh.org.pl
  27845.  
  27846.  
  27847. From owner-amigapl  Mon Mar 23 09:19:39 1998
  27848. Received: from www.kki.net.pl (www.kki.net.pl [195.116.9.70]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA08979 for <amigapl@wfmh.fiber.net.pl>; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 08:58:35 +0100 (MET)
  27849. Received: from WspSpolem (rmod4.kielce.mtl.pl [195.117.92.36])
  27850.     by www.kki.net.pl (8.8.7/8.8.7.ver6) with ESMTP id IAA24917
  27851.     for <amigapl@wfmh.man.szczecin.pl>; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 08:58:12 +0100
  27852. Message-Id: <199803230758.IAA24917@www.kki.net.pl>
  27853. From: "Marcin Soko³owski" <600user@kki.net.pl>
  27854. To: "AmigaPL-WFMH" <amigapl@wfmh.fiber.net.pl>
  27855. Subject: *** Audio A-4000 ***
  27856. Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 08:52:43 +0100
  27857. X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
  27858. X-Priority: 3
  27859. X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161
  27860. MIME-Version: 1.0
  27861. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2
  27862. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  27863.  
  27864. Witam raz jeszcze !
  27865.  
  27866. W instrukcji OptyCDPlayera jest napisane, ze szczesliwi posiadacze =
  27867. A-4000=20
  27868. moga podlaczyc swojego CD-ROMa kabelkiem dolaczanym do zestawu=20
  27869. (ten do pc-towej karty muzycznej) z plyta glowna, dzieki czemu mozna =
  27870. sluchac
  27871.  trackow AUDIO z wyjscia AUDIO Amigi.
  27872. Szukalem takiego zlacza na plycie - byc moze znalazlem, ale chcialbym =
  27873. sie=20
  27874. upewnic. Czy znajduje sie ono tuz obok gniazda AUDIO ? No i jak toto =
  27875. podlaczyc ?
  27876. Ktos juz to probowal ? Czy dzwiek sie miksuje, jesli Amiga cos sle na =
  27877. Audio=20
  27878. i jednoczesnie czyta AudioCD ?
  27879.  
  27880. Pozdrawiam !
  27881. ----------------------
  27882. Marcin "XMS" Soko=B3owski Amiga FAN ForEver
  27883. http://www.complex.com.pl/~zbylu/xms/xms001.html
  27884. 600user@kki.net.pl
  27885. From owner-amigapl  Mon Mar 23 09:19:47 1998
  27886. Received: from www.kki.net.pl (www.kki.net.pl [195.116.9.70]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA08977 for <amigapl@wfmh.fiber.net.pl>; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 08:58:31 +0100 (MET)
  27887. Received: from WspSpolem (rmod4.kielce.mtl.pl [195.117.92.36])
  27888.     by www.kki.net.pl (8.8.7/8.8.7.ver6) with ESMTP id IAA24906
  27889.     for <amigapl@wfmh.man.szczecin.pl>; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 08:58:10 +0100
  27890. Message-Id: <199803230758.IAA24906@www.kki.net.pl>
  27891. From: "Marcin Soko³owski" <600user@kki.net.pl>
  27892. To: "AmigaPL-WFMH" <amigapl@wfmh.fiber.net.pl>
  27893. Subject: Kupie Bustera v11
  27894. Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 08:47:40 +0100
  27895. X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
  27896. X-Priority: 3
  27897. X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161
  27898. MIME-Version: 1.0
  27899. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2
  27900. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  27901.  
  27902. Witam !
  27903.  
  27904. Poszukuje w celu zakupu (albo wymiany - mam v9) Super Buster'a v11 do =
  27905. A-4000.
  27906. Jesli ktokolwiek wie cokolwiek, prosze o info na priv.
  27907.  
  27908. P.S.
  27909. Moze ktos, ko czeka na CyberVision PPC i ma SB11, zamieni sie ze mna ? =
  27910. Chyba CV-PPC nie korzysta z SB, tylko obsluguje ja slot z CyberStorma =
  27911. PPC i jakis chipek za to odpowiedzialny...tylko nie SB :)
  27912. ----------------------
  27913. Marcin "XMS" Soko=B3owski Amiga FAN ForEver
  27914. http://www.complex.com.pl/~zbylu/xms/xms001.html
  27915. 600user@kki.net.pl
  27916. From owner-amigapl  Mon Mar 23 09:49:39 1998
  27917. Received: from LODZ2 (lodz2.p.lodz.pl [193.59.44.68]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA09098 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 09:29:07 +0100 (MET)
  27918. Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 09:29:07 +0100 (MET)
  27919. Message-Id: <199803230829.JAA09098@amiga.com.pl>
  27920. Received: from ck-st1.p.lodz.pl by LODZ2 (MX V3.2) with SMTP; Mon, 23 Mar 1998
  27921.           09:29:14 CET
  27922. X-Sender: kaczus@kki.net.pl
  27923. X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2
  27924. Mime-Version: 1.0
  27925. Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
  27926. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  27927. From: Tomasz Kaczanowski <kaczus@kki.net.pl>
  27928. Subject: Re: Amiga nadal ma sie dobrze
  27929.  
  27930. At 18:13 98-03-21 +0100, you wrote:
  27931. >On Fri, 20 Mar 1998, Artur Muszynski wrote:
  27932. >
  27933. >> On 19-Mar-98, Marcin Ostrowski wrote:
  27934. >> > Ma ktos cos przeciw PC pod linuxem?
  27935. >> Ma. Odpada badziewny system operacyjny. Pozostaje badziewna architektura
  27936. >Chcialbym miec taka badziewna architekture na Amidze w tej cenie.
  27937.  
  27938. To juz nie bylaby Amiga ... - Chcesz zlom, to qp sobie PC - za ta cene ...
  27939.  
  27940. Kaczus of BlaBla
  27941.  
  27942. From owner-amigapl  Mon Mar 23 09:49:54 1998
  27943. Received: from LODZ2 (lodz2.p.lodz.pl [193.59.44.68]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA09144 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 09:44:59 +0100 (MET)
  27944. Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 09:44:59 +0100 (MET)
  27945. Message-Id: <199803230844.JAA09144@amiga.com.pl>
  27946. Received: from ck-st1.p.lodz.pl by LODZ2 (MX V3.2) with SMTP; Mon, 23 Mar 1998
  27947.           09:45:08 CET
  27948. X-Sender: kaczus@kki.net.pl
  27949. X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2
  27950. Mime-Version: 1.0
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  27953. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  27954. From: Tomasz Kaczanowski <kaczus@kki.net.pl>
  27955. Subject: Re: Wielozadaniowona blasze
  27956.  
  27957. At 23:33 78-01-05 +0100, you wrote:
  27958. >Bardzo przepraszam ze troche nie na temat, ale potrzebuje tego do artykulu=
  27959.  o
  27960. >Amidze.
  27961. >Wiec Adminie wybacz.
  27962. >Czy na blasze mozna, tak jak na Amidze, jednoczesnie pisac i wysylac listy,
  27963. >ciagnac FTP i
  27964. >przeglada=EA www?
  27965. >Jeszcze raz sory.
  27966.  
  27967. Tak pod warunkiem, ze pracujesz albo pod odpowiednikiem UNIXA, albo pod
  27968. windowam uzywasz programow napisanych "zgodnie z wytycznymi" - tzn
  27969. umozliwiajacymi ci wielozadaniowosc, bo wbrew pozorom, to nie dokonca systam
  27970. za to jest odpowiedzialny, tylko program..., a po za tym np. przy 8MB ramu=
  27971.  jak
  27972. uruchomisz np. Netscape, to bedziesz jedynie co rusz slyszal chrobotanie po=
  27973.  HDD,
  27974. mimo, ze nawet Netscape nic robic nie bedzie ...
  27975.  
  27976. Kaczus of BlaBla
  27977.  
  27978. From owner-amigapl  Mon Mar 23 10:19:45 1998
  27979. Received: from LODZ2 (lodz2.p.lodz.pl [193.59.44.68]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA09196 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 09:56:58 +0100 (MET)
  27980. Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 09:56:58 +0100 (MET)
  27981. Message-Id: <199803230856.JAA09196@amiga.com.pl>
  27982. Received: from ck-st1.p.lodz.pl by LODZ2 (MX V3.2) with SMTP; Mon, 23 Mar 1998
  27983.           09:57:06 CET
  27984. X-Sender: kaczus@kki.net.pl
  27985. X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2
  27986. Mime-Version: 1.0
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  27988. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  27989. From: Tomasz Kaczanowski <kaczus@kki.net.pl>
  27990. Subject: Re: CrossDos 7.x
  27991.  
  27992. At 06:57 98-03-23 +0100, you wrote:
  27993.  
  27994. >Szukam kogos, kto juz CrossDosa 7.x posiada i ma cos na jego temat do
  27995. powiedzenia
  27996.  
  27997. mfm.device sie wali i trzeba po zainstalowaniu stare nadpisac, ale po za tym
  27998. jest spox
  27999.  
  28000. Kaczus of BlaBla
  28001.  
  28002. From owner-amigapl  Mon Mar 23 11:50:11 1998
  28003. Received: from linux2.pzuzycie.com.pl (linux2.pzuzycie.com.pl [195.205.22.5]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA09583 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 11:28:53 +0100 (MET)
  28004. Received: from pecet (ppp135.plock.tpnet.pl [195.116.246.135])
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  28006.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 11:31:45 +0100
  28007. Message-ID: <351639AC.2D4355FB@linux2.pzuzycie.com.pl>
  28008. Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 11:30:04 +0100
  28009. From: "Jerzy Ma³ecki" <jurgen@linux2.pzuzycie.com.pl>
  28010. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (Win95; I)
  28011. MIME-Version: 1.0
  28012. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  28013. Subject: Re: Tfu M$ Internet Explorer
  28014. X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
  28015. References: <199803230618.HAA16722@piast.pertus.com.pl>
  28016. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  28017. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
  28018.  
  28019. zapomnij
  28020. bullet ftp
  28021. chcesz ?
  28022.  
  28023. -- 
  28024.  
  28025. siemka
  28026.  
  28027. * Ak5/3.1/3mb/80+540scsi/cd 2x/1084/USRS28800
  28028. * amiga4ever@linux2.pzuzycie.com.pl
  28029. From owner-amigapl  Mon Mar 23 11:57:28 1998
  28030. Received: from localhost (carlos@localhost) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA09755 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 11:57:27 +0100 (MET)
  28031. Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 11:57:25 +0100 (MET)
  28032. From: Marcin Orlowski <carlos@amiga.com.pl>
  28033. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  28034. Subject: Re: CrossMac
  28035. In-Reply-To: <199803230600.HAA16663@piast.pertus.com.pl>
  28036. Message-ID: <Pine.NEB.3.96.980323115654.9743A-100000@amiga.com.pl>
  28037. MIME-Version: 1.0
  28038. Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
  28039.  
  28040. On Mon, 23 Mar 1998, Arkadiusz Winiarek wrote:
  28041.  
  28042. > Chcialbym wiedziec jaka jest najnowsza wersja CrossMaca i czy mozna ja gdzies pociagnac?
  28043.  
  28044. <ZOT>
  28045.  
  28046. --
  28047.  Daddy, what FORMATTING DRIVE C: means?
  28048.  
  28049.  Marcin                     mailto:carlos@amiga.com.pl
  28050.                               http://www.wfmh.org.pl
  28051.  
  28052.  
  28053. From owner-amigapl  Mon Mar 23 13:09:42 1998
  28054. Received: from mx1.polbox.com (mx1.polbox.com [195.116.5.16]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA00201 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 13:04:56 +0100 (MET)
  28055. Received: from sweet.tnet.pl (juha@sweet.tnet.pl [195.116.45.4])
  28056.     by mx1.polbox.com (8.8.8/rev-A0) with SMTP id NAA21198
  28057.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 13:08:58 +0100
  28058. Message-ID: <35165128.3E04@polbox.com>
  28059. Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 13:10:16 +0100
  28060. From: Juha <juha@polbox.com>
  28061. Reply-To: juha@polbox.com
  28062. Organization: AmigaTeam
  28063. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I)
  28064. MIME-Version: 1.0
  28065. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  28066. Subject: Re: baza dbf
  28067. References: <yam7384.1285.118552552@mail.union.org.pl>
  28068. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
  28069. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
  28070.  
  28071. Tomasz Muszynski wrote:
  28072. > 
  28073. > On 21-Mar-98, Arkadiusz Winiarek wrote:
  28074. > > Moze ktos wie, czy istnieje baza na Ami rozpoznajaca pliki *.dbf z
  28075. > SuperBazy
  28076. > > (mi.1.15) na pYcY?
  28077.  
  28078. Na aminecie znalazlem kiedys jakis programik do konwersji sbf na Ascii
  28079. pozniej zaimportowac to tylko do amigowej bazy lub arkusza i po
  28080. problemie
  28081. Pozdrawiam
  28082. -- 
  28083.            ____
  28084.    +------/ / /-------------------------------+------------------------+
  28085.    |  _ _/ / /      Marek Pialucha "Juha"     | Member of "Amiga Team" |
  28086.    |-\ \ \/ /---------------------------------+------------------------|
  28087.    |  \_\_\/   A1200/030/50 Mhz, 20MB, 1.6 GB |    juha@polbox.com     |
  28088.    +------------------------------------------+------------------------+
  28089.  
  28090. ----- [ REKLAMA / ADVERTISEMENT ] ----------------------------------------
  28091. Lubisz film?! Wiec na co czekasz? Przylacz sie do FILMWEBU!
  28092. Pierwszy Polski Serwis Filmowy w Internecie  http://www.filmweb.pl
  28093. --------------------------------------------------------------------------
  28094.  
  28095. From owner-amigapl  Mon Mar 23 13:09:50 1998
  28096. Received: from www.kki.net.pl (www.kki.net.pl [195.116.9.70]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA00206 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 13:06:12 +0100 (MET)
  28097. Received: from kki.net.pl (AKM-MAYA@pppa166.szczecin.tpnet.pl [194.204.141.166])
  28098.     by www.kki.net.pl (8.8.7/8.8.7.ver6) with SMTP id NAA13510
  28099.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 13:05:45 +0100
  28100. From: Adam Majewski <akmmaya@kki.net.pl>
  28101. Reply-To: akmmaya@kki.net.pl
  28102. To: WFMH-AmigaPL <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  28103. Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 12:59:50 +0100
  28104. Message-ID: <yam7386.2543.1748408728@kki.net.pl>
  28105. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  28106. Subject: cd.device
  28107. MIME-Version: 1.0
  28108. X-ISO-CONVERTED: Yam_ISO2 1.06 (17.11.97) (c) Silver Dream !
  28109. X-YAMISO-UPDATE: ftp://wfmh.org.pl/pub/yam_iso2/
  28110. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  28111. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  28112.  
  28113. Cze=B6=E6 wszystkim!
  28114.  
  28115. Mam taki problem:
  28116. Po w=B3=B1czeniu komputera i pierwszym =B3adowaniu systemu nie otwiera
  28117. si=EA cd.device. Aby korzysta=E6 z cd-romu musz=EA ponownie za=B3adowa=E6=
  28118.  
  28119. system naciskaj=B1c dobrze znane trzy magiczne klawisze (Ctrl-A-A :)
  28120. Potem jest OK.
  28121. Win=EA za to ponosi umieszczony w startapie: OpenOXYPPort
  28122. i PrepareEMUL, bez nich wszystko jest OK.
  28123.  
  28124. I teraz pytania:
  28125. Czy takie zachowanie si=EA systemu jest normalne?
  28126. Czy dzieje si=EA to u kogo=B6 jeszcze?
  28127. Co z tym mog=EA zrobi=E6?
  28128.  
  28129. -- =
  28130.  
  28131. Pozdrawiam :-)
  28132.  
  28133. mailto: akmmaya@kki.net.pl
  28134. www: http://www.kki.net.pl/akmmaya
  28135.  
  28136. :-)  w=F3wren  eibos  juCP  ein  (-:
  28137.                                                            Adam Majewski
  28138.  
  28139. From owner-amigapl  Mon Mar 23 14:09:41 1998
  28140. Received: from www.kki.net.pl (www.kki.net.pl [195.116.9.70]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA00376 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 13:46:31 +0100 (MET)
  28141. Received: from kki.net.pl (ppp@ppp249.gorzow.tpnet.pl [195.116.254.249])
  28142.     by www.kki.net.pl (8.8.7/8.8.7.ver6) with SMTP id NAA23382
  28143.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 13:46:10 +0100
  28144. From: Artur Karpunin <woody8@kki.net.pl>
  28145. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  28146. Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 13:44:40 +0500
  28147. Message-ID: <yam7386.2041.515112@kki.net.pl>
  28148. In-Reply-To: <yam7383.2039.138534720@server.fiber.net.pl>
  28149. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  28150. Subject: Re: Pilne: Jak zastapic BeginIO()
  28151. MIME-Version: 1.0
  28152. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
  28153. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  28154.  
  28155. On 21-Mar-98, Marcin Orlowski wrote:
  28156. >Dnia 20-Mar-98, Wojciech Kocjan napisa=B3:
  28157.  
  28158. >> Nie, ale jak np. robi=EA aplikacje MUI z w=B3asnymi klasami i u=BFyj=EA=
  28159.  printf() w
  28160. >> dispatcherze, to w=B3a=B6nie owy b=B3=B1d si=EA pojawia.
  28161.  
  28162.  
  28163. Witam !
  28164.  
  28165. Nie stosowac printf !
  28166. kprintf stosowac !
  28167.  
  28168. -- =
  28169.  
  28170. Z powazaniem Artur Karpunin <woody8@kki.net.pl>
  28171.  
  28172.  
  28173. From owner-amigapl  Mon Mar 23 14:39:47 1998
  28174. Received: from www.kki.net.pl (www.kki.net.pl [195.116.9.70]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA00447 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 14:24:09 +0100 (MET)
  28175. Received: from WspSpolem (rmod3.kielce.mtl.pl [195.117.92.35])
  28176.     by www.kki.net.pl (8.8.7/8.8.7.ver6) with ESMTP id OAA31695
  28177.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 14:23:43 +0100
  28178. Message-Id: <199803231323.OAA31695@www.kki.net.pl>
  28179. From: "Marcin Soko³owski" <600user@kki.net.pl>
  28180. To: "AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi" <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  28181. Subject: Odp: cd.device
  28182. Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 14:26:22 +0100
  28183. X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
  28184. X-Priority: 3
  28185. X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161
  28186. MIME-Version: 1.0
  28187. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2
  28188. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  28189.  
  28190. Mam taki problem:
  28191. Po w=B3=B1czeniu komputera i pierwszym =B3adowaniu systemu nie otwiera
  28192. si=EA cd.device. Aby korzysta=E6 z cd-romu musz=EA ponownie =
  28193. za=B3adowa=E6
  28194. system naciskaj=B1c dobrze znane trzy magiczne klawisze (Ctrl-A-A :)
  28195. Potem jest OK.
  28196. Win=EA za to ponosi umieszczony w startapie: OpenOXYPPort
  28197. i PrepareEMUL, bez nich wszystko jest OK.
  28198.  
  28199. I teraz pytania:
  28200. Czy takie zachowanie si=EA systemu jest normalne?
  28201. Czy dzieje si=EA to u kogo=B6 jeszcze?
  28202. Co z tym mog=EA zrobi=E6?
  28203. -----------------------------------------
  28204. Mozesz przesiasc sie na FUSION - on ma Rsvcold (warm) - takie programiki =
  28205. a la PrepareEmul do Szejpa, ktore maja support dla OXY Patchera. Byc =
  28206. moze wtedy cd.device sie zaladuje OK...
  28207. ----------------------
  28208. Marcin "XMS" Soko=B3owski Amiga FAN ForEver
  28209. http://www.complex.com.pl/~zbylu/xms/xms001.html
  28210. 600user@kki.net.pl
  28211.  
  28212.  
  28213. From owner-amigapl  Mon Mar 23 15:39:45 1998
  28214. Received: from david.silesia.pik-net.pl (david.silesia.pik-net.pl [195.82.176.1]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA00525 for <amigapl@wfmh.org.pl>; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 15:13:36 +0100 (MET)
  28215. Received: from mail.soft-eks.com.pl. (mail.soft-eks.com.pl [195.82.177.18])
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  28217.     for <amigapl@wfmh.org.pl>; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 15:12:26 +0100
  28218. Received: from SOFT_EKSPERT/SpoolDir by mail.soft-eks.com.pl. (Mercury 1.21);
  28219.     23 Mar 98 15:14:10 +1100
  28220. Received: from SpoolDir by SOFT_EKSPERT (Mercury 1.21); 23 Mar 98 15:13:49 +1100
  28221. From: "Dariusz Kleina" <AMIGA@soft-eks.com.pl>
  28222. To: amigapl@wfmh.org.pl
  28223. Date:          Mon, 23 Mar 1998 15:13:46 
  28224. MIME-Version:  1.0
  28225. Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
  28226. Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
  28227. Subject:       Re: baza dbf
  28228. X-Confirm-Reading-To: "Dariusz Kleina" <AMIGA@soft-eks.com.pl.>
  28229. X-pmrqc:       1
  28230. Priority: normal
  28231. X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.22
  28232. Message-ID: <8EDA4B6269@mail.soft-eks.com.pl.>
  28233.  
  28234. Czesc !!!
  28235.  
  28236. Tomasz Muszynski wrote:
  28237. > 
  28238. > On 21-Mar-98, Arkadiusz Winiarek wrote:
  28239. > > Moze ktos wie, czy istnieje baza na Ami rozpoznajaca pliki *.dbf z
  28240. > SuperBazy
  28241. > > (mi.1.15) na pYcY?
  28242.  
  28243.  
  28244. Nie sledzilem tego tematu od poczatku. Ale napisze to co wiem. Tak 
  28245. sie sklada, ze pracuje w firmie, ktora pisze programy pracujace na 
  28246. bazach *.dbf i mialem taki problem kilka miesiecy temu. I znalazlem 
  28247. na Ami program, ktory lapie bazy w tym formacie. Mam go w domu. Mozna 
  28248. je przekonwertowac do kilku innych formatow akceptowanych przez inne 
  28249. Amigowe programy. Jezeli chcesz to podesle ci go na priv. Jezeli 
  28250. jednak masz dostep do blaszaka i masz program np.: dbu to mozesz na 
  28251. nim skonwertowac do pliku ascii, a pozniej mozesz zrobic z tym co ci 
  28252. sie podoba. A tak swoja droga to jezeli cie interesuje mam opis 
  28253. struktory pliku dbf. Wiec jezeli umiesz programowac to noproblem.
  28254.  
  28255. Ps. DBU tez moge ci podeslac.
  28256.  
  28257.  
  28258. Pozdrawiam
  28259.  
  28260. +--------------------------------------------------------------------+
  28261. | Dariusz Kleina                        Amiga & pC programmer        |
  28262. | mailto:amiga@soft-eks.com.pl         Basic/Pascal/C/C++/Asm        |
  28263. |   A1200, HDD 850, CD-ROM 12x, Mem 2+8 Mb, CPU 030/42, FPU 882/20   |
  28264. +--------------------------------------------------------------------+
  28265.         
  28266. From owner-amigapl  Mon Mar 23 16:09:42 1998
  28267. Received: from david.silesia.pik-net.pl (david.silesia.pik-net.pl [195.82.176.1]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA00591 for <amigapl@wfmh.org.pl>; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 15:44:46 +0100 (MET)
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  28271. Received: from SOFT_EKSPERT/SpoolDir by mail.soft-eks.com.pl. (Mercury 1.21);
  28272.     23 Mar 98 15:44:49 +1100
  28273. Received: from SpoolDir by SOFT_EKSPERT (Mercury 1.21); 23 Mar 98 15:44:47 +1100
  28274. From: "Dariusz Kleina" <AMIGA@soft-eks.com.pl>
  28275. To: Amiga@plearn.edu.pl, amigapl@wfmh.org.pl
  28276. Date:          Mon, 23 Mar 1998 15:44:39 
  28277. MIME-Version:  1.0
  28278. Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
  28279. Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
  28280. Subject:       Bledy i CrossDos
  28281. X-Confirm-Reading-To: "Dariusz Kleina" <AMIGA@soft-eks.com.pl.>
  28282. X-pmrqc:       1
  28283. Priority: normal
  28284. X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.22
  28285. Message-ID: <8F5E7B36AC@mail.soft-eks.com.pl.>
  28286.  
  28287. Czesc !!!
  28288.  
  28289. Jeszcze raz o CrossDos-ie.
  28290. Ostatnio kopiowalem kilka plikow na dysk blaszakowy. Uzywalem na Ami 
  28291. CrossDos-a 7.01 i na Ami wszystko bylo ok, Natomiast blaszak mial 
  28292. dyze problemy z tym plikiem. Scandisk (windowsowy) informowal, ze 
  28293. plik ten nadpisal mi kilka innych znajdujacych sie na dysku. Z 
  28294. poczatku myslalem, ze jest to moja wina. Jednak po kilku probach 
  28295. kopiowania pod kontrola CrossDosa 7.0 dalem sobie spokuj. W koncu 
  28296. przytarlem na blasze w ten sposob G95 i stracilem caly dzien, aby 
  28297. doprowadzic go do stanu jako takiej uzywalnosci. W zwiazku z 
  28298. powyzszym mam pytanie czy jest jakis sposob, aby takie problemy 
  28299. wiecej nie wychodzily. Jezeli nie ma to chyba wroce do v6.06, ktora 
  28300. pracowala z dyskami bez problemu (bez dlugich nazw mozna sie obejsc).
  28301.  
  28302.  
  28303. Pozdrawiam
  28304.  
  28305. +--------------------------------------------------------------------+
  28306. | Dariusz Kleina                        Amiga & pC programmer        |
  28307. | mailto:amiga@soft-eks.com.pl         Basic/Pascal/C/C++/Asm        |
  28308. |   A1200, HDD 850, CD-ROM 12x, Mem 2+8 Mb, CPU 030/42, FPU 882/20   |
  28309. +--------------------------------------------------------------------+
  28310.         
  28311. From owner-amigapl  Mon Mar 23 17:09:42 1998
  28312. Received: from www.kki.net.pl (www.kki.net.pl [195.116.9.70]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA00849 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 17:08:37 +0100 (MET)
  28313. Received: from kki.net.pl (Amy@ppp136.gdynia.tpnet.pl [194.204.135.136])
  28314.     by www.kki.net.pl (8.8.7/8.8.7.ver6) with SMTP id RAA07049;
  28315.     Mon, 23 Mar 1998 17:06:10 +0100
  28316. From: Pawel Krak <phob@kki.net.pl>
  28317. To: amiga-plearn <AMIGA@plearn.edu.pl>
  28318. CC: amiga-wfmh <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  28319. Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 15:35:27 +0100
  28320. Message-ID: <yam7384.1375.20280712@kki.net.pl>
  28321. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  28322. Subject: HELP: Fonty-PILNE!
  28323. MIME-Version: 1.0
  28324. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  28325. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  28326.  
  28327. Hi,
  28328.  
  28329. Pilnie potrzebuj=EB czcionek wektorowych z literami greckimi.
  28330. Pliz sendnijcie na priva. THX.
  28331. Reply-To ustawione.
  28332. -- =
  28333.  
  28334. See ya!                                          Phobos
  28335. -----------------------------------------------------------
  28336. Pawel Krak * IRC:Phobos_ * mailto:phob@kki.net.pl
  28337. A1200/040/33MHz/18MB/420MB/1084S/CanonBJC240/BrightCom33600
  28338. -----------------------------------------------------------
  28339.  
  28340. From owner-amigapl  Mon Mar 23 17:39:42 1998
  28341. Received: from gryzmak.lodz.pdi.net (gryzmak.lodz.pdi.net [195.116.162.1]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA00888 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 17:21:33 +0100 (MET)
  28342. Received: (from arturp@localhost)
  28343.     by gryzmak.lodz.pdi.net (8.8.7/2.1.1/L) id RAA01691;
  28344.     Mon, 23 Mar 1998 17:19:34 +0100
  28345. Message-ID: <19980323171933.06887@plukwa.pdi.net>
  28346. Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 17:19:33 +0100
  28347. From: Artur Pietruk <arturp@plukwa.pdi.net>
  28348. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  28349. Subject: Re: baza dbf
  28350. References: <199803210919.KAA31629@piast.pertus.com.pl>
  28351. Mime-Version: 1.0
  28352. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
  28353. X-Mailer: Mutt 0.83
  28354. In-Reply-To: <199803210919.KAA31629@piast.pertus.com.pl>; from Arkadiusz Winiarek on Sat, Mar 21, 1998 at 10:13:52AM +0100
  28355.  
  28356. On Sat, Mar 21, 1998 at 10:13:52AM +0100, Arkadiusz Winiarek wrote:
  28357. > Hej!
  28358. > 
  28359. > Moze ktos wie, czy istnieje baza na Ami rozpoznajaca pliki *.dbf z 
  28360. > SuperBazy (mi.1.15) na pYcY?
  28361.  
  28362.     Superbase?
  28363.  
  28364. -- 
  28365. -------------------------------------------------------------------
  28366. - Who  : Artur Pietruk - WebMaster @ PDi - www.pdi.net -      /// -
  28367. - Email: arturp@pdi.net IRC: APair TEL: +48 44 7140906 -     ///  -
  28368. - Snail: ul.11 listopada 33a/19 97-140 Koluszki POLAND - \\\///   -
  28369. - Using: AMIGA 4000/40 CV64-3D, A1240T                 -  \\//    -
  28370.  
  28371.         PGP public key - finger arturp@gryzmak.lodz.pdi.net
  28372.                 "My webpage exists - I've seen it!"
  28373. From owner-amigapl  Mon Mar 23 17:39:54 1998
  28374. Received: from arka.mtl.pl (root@mtl.pl [195.116.4.4]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA00894 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 17:26:31 +0100 (MET)
  28375. Received: from gie-da (rmod2.mtl.pl [195.116.164.4]) by arka.mtl.pl (8.8.7/8.6.12) with ESMTP id RAA15897 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 17:25:26 +0100 (MET)
  28376. Message-Id: <199803231625.RAA15897@arka.mtl.pl>
  28377. From: "Adam Zaparcinski" <gielda@mtl.pl>
  28378. To: "AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi" <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  28379. Subject: Odp: MUSASHI and AmigaOS
  28380. Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 19:35:14 +0100
  28381. X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
  28382. X-Priority: 3
  28383. X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155
  28384. MIME-Version: 1.0
  28385. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2
  28386. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
  28387.  
  28388. >> zacielo caly system. Chyba, ze sam visual jest tak glupio zrobiony. (jak
  28389. >> widac borland nie robi takich glupot)
  28390. >
  28391. >Za to robi inne.
  28392. >
  28393. >Panowie, ja bardzo proszê o EOT. Listy Wam siê pomyli³y czy co?
  28394.  
  28395. Zgadzam siê. W zwi±zku z tym mam pomys³/pro¶bê: Czy mo¿na by za³o¿yæ listê
  28396. pluj-na-pc, na której takie tematy by³yby dozwolone? My¶lê, ¿e by siê
  28397. przyda³a. Chyba du¿o osób by siê zapisa³o na ni±. Ja napewno
  28398.  
  28399. Pozdrawiam
  28400.  
  28401. Sherwood
  28402. From owner-amigapl  Mon Mar 23 18:09:44 1998
  28403. Received: from gryzmak.lodz.pdi.net (gryzmak.lodz.pdi.net [195.116.162.1]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA01010 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 18:05:36 +0100 (MET)
  28404. Received: (from arturp@localhost)
  28405.     by gryzmak.lodz.pdi.net (8.8.7/2.1.1/L) id SAA04064;
  28406.     Mon, 23 Mar 1998 18:03:30 +0100
  28407. Message-ID: <19980323180330.19610@plukwa.pdi.net>
  28408. Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 18:03:30 +0100
  28409. From: Artur Pietruk <arturp@plukwa.pdi.net>
  28410. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  28411. Subject: Re: Wstepniak w MA 3/98
  28412. References: <yam7385.1555.1749623016@kki.net.pl>
  28413. Mime-Version: 1.0
  28414. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
  28415. X-Mailer: Mutt 0.83
  28416. In-Reply-To: <yam7385.1555.1749623016@kki.net.pl>; from Stefan Koralewski on Sun, Mar 22, 1998 at 05:09:31PM -0500
  28417.  
  28418. On Sun, Mar 22, 1998 at 05:09:31PM -0500, Stefan Koralewski wrote:
  28419.  
  28420. > Zapraszam wszystkich na adres http://www.dom.vr.pl/~drchiry.
  28421. > To w zwiazku z Magazynem Amiga nr. 3 - konkretnie chodzi o wstepniak.
  28422. > Nie wszyscy wpadacie na IRC lub czytacie MA, wiec wpadnijcie pod ten adres.
  28423. > Jest tam dokladnie opisane o co chodzi.
  28424.  
  28425.     Witam. Chcialbym powiedziec ze ja czytamy MA, ale od pol roku nie
  28426. wpadamy na IRC. Zajrzalem na te strone i musze przyznac ze ... troche sie
  28427. zdziwilem. TZN. Sama idea jest ok, wszystko jest w pozadku. Zaciekawilo
  28428. mnie jednak autorstwo strony, pozwole sobie zacytowac fragment tekstu:
  28429.  
  28430. ---
  28431.    Strone stworzono na komputerze Amiga za pomoca:
  28432.    AmiTekstPRO GOLD - legalna wersja VoyagerNG - wersja demo.
  28433.    Przy tworzeniu jej wzieli udzial:
  28434.    DrChiry^APS
  28435.    Mps
  28436.    Sosen
  28437.    STEad
  28438.    steAD
  28439.    AMIGA=
  28440.  
  28441.               Strona uzyskala akceptacje MPS'a (Marek Pampuch)
  28442. ---
  28443.  
  28444.     Strona sklada sie w zasadzie z podkladu i tekstu, przy czym
  28445. chcialbym zauwazyc ze podklady sa MOJEGO autorstwa, pochodza z Plukwy, i
  28446. wydaje mi sie ze byc moze kulturalnie byloby sie zapytac mnie czy
  28447. mozna uzyc grafiki wykonanej prze ze mnie gdzie indziej. Tymbardziej ze
  28448. strona ta nie zawiera zadnej innej grafiki poza ta wykonana prze ze mnie.
  28449. A niestety wsrod autorow strony nie zauwazylem swojego nazwiska, coz, moze
  28450. to ja jestem pozbawiony kultury i nie powinienem nawet pisac tego listu.
  28451.  
  28452. > |        // STEad Stefan Koralewski   A-12oo/o3o/5o/32Mb |         
  28453. > |       // steAD Adam Tynenski        CDR/4.8Gb Hdd/SCSI |
  28454. > | _ /\ // stead@kki.net.pl            M1538s/HDFlop/28.8 |
  28455. > | \\\/// stead@lodz.pdi.net                              |
  28456. > |  \\// PPC603e/250/40 cooming soon czyli budziet bystra |       
  28457. > -- 
  28458. > ==========================================================
  28459. > | STEAD is registered and trademark and bla, bla, bla... |
  28460. > |         _                                              |
  28461. > |        // STEad Stefan Koralewski   A-12oo/o3o/5o/32Mb |         
  28462. > |       // steAD Adam Tynenski        CDR/4.8Gb Hdd/SCSI |
  28463. > | _ /\ // stead@kki.net.pl            M1538s/HDFlop/28.8 |
  28464. > | \\\/// stead@lodz.pdi.net                              |
  28465. > |  \\// PPC603e/250/40 cooming soon czyli budziet bystra |       
  28466. > |   ""                                                   |  
  28467. > ==========================================================
  28468.  
  28469.     Po dwoch sygnaturkach wnoskuje ze ty jestes Autorem strony?
  28470.  
  28471.     Pozdrawia:
  28472.  
  28473. -- 
  28474. -------------------------------------------------------------------
  28475. - Who  : Artur Pietruk - WebMaster @ PDi - www.pdi.net -      /// -
  28476. - Email: arturp@pdi.net IRC: APair TEL: +48 44 7140906 -     ///  -
  28477. - Snail: ul.11 listopada 33a/19 97-140 Koluszki POLAND - \\\///   -
  28478. - Using: AMIGA 4000/40 CV64-3D, A1240T                 -  \\//    -
  28479.  
  28480.         PGP public key - finger arturp@gryzmak.lodz.pdi.net
  28481.                 "My webpage exists - I've seen it!"
  28482. From owner-amigapl  Mon Mar 23 18:39:42 1998
  28483. Received: from merkury.piotrkow.tpsa.pl (merkury.piotrkow.tpsa.pl [194.204.159.4]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA01095 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 18:32:34 +0100 (MET)
  28484. Received: from priv2.onet.pl (pppa15.kielce.tpnet.pl [195.116.245.15])
  28485.     by merkury.piotrkow.tpsa.pl (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA27680
  28486.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 18:31:04 +0100 (MET)
  28487. From: Ryszard Sajdak <rysieksa@friko2.onet.pl>
  28488. Reply-To: Ryszard Sajdak <rysieksa@friko2.onet.pl>
  28489. To: amigapl@amiga.com.pl
  28490. Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 18:22:04 +0100
  28491. Message-ID: <yam7386.207.1749955344@www.tpnet.pl>
  28492. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  28493. Organization: Amiga 1200/040/40MHz/16MB
  28494. Subject: WordWorth 7
  28495. MIME-Version: 1.0
  28496. X-ISO-CONVERTED: Yam_ISO2 1.06 (17.11.97) (c) Silver Dream !
  28497. X-YAMISO-UPDATE: ftp://wfmh.org.pl/pub/yam_iso2/
  28498. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  28499. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  28500.  
  28501. Witam.
  28502.  
  28503. Czy ma kto=B6 mo=BFe jakie=B6 informacje na temat nowego WordWorth-a 7?
  28504. Widzia=B3em jaki=B6 czas temu wzmiank=EA na temat tego programu na stroni=
  28505. e 450
  28506. telegazety stacji muzycznej VIVA, niestety jest to po niemiecku, z kt=F3r=
  28507. ego nic
  28508. nie kumam....
  28509.  
  28510.  
  28511. -- =
  28512.  
  28513. HIROSHIMA '45 - CHERNOBYL '86 -->  WINDOWS '95
  28514.  
  28515. --> Amiga FAN :-) 1200 Tower/040/40MHz/16MB/1.2GB/x8CD/33,6k<------/
  28516. mail  to: #rysieksa@priv2.onet.pl#
  28517. IRC nick: #RyVar72#
  28518.  
  28519. From owner-amigapl  Mon Mar 23 18:39:50 1998
  28520. Received: from imagent.inet.com.pl (imagent.inet.com.pl [195.116.59.5]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA01043 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 18:10:09 +0100 (MET)
  28521. Received: from box43.gnet.pl ([194.204.141.229]) by imagent.inet.com.pl
  28522.           (post.office MTA v2.0 0813 ID# 0-11865) with SMTP id AAA141;
  28523.           Mon, 23 Mar 1998 18:12:34 +0100
  28524. From: Piotr Czerniawski <piotrcz@box43.gnet.pl>
  28525. To: Amiga <amiga@plearn.edu.pl>
  28526. CC: AmigaPL <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  28527. Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 18:09:51 +0100
  28528. Message-ID: <yam7386.2554.2042598664@inet.com.pl>
  28529. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  28530. Subject: 4xIDE
  28531. MIME-Version: 1.0
  28532. X-ISO-CONVERTED: Yam_ISO2 1.06 (17.11.97) (c) Silver Dream !
  28533. X-YAMISO-UPDATE: ftp://wfmh.org.pl/pub/yam_iso2/
  28534. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  28535. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  28536.  
  28537. Witam
  28538.  
  28539. W zwi=B1zku z ignorancj=B1 firmy ELBOX zwracam si=EA do listowicz=F3w z z=
  28540. apytaniem,
  28541. czy kto=B6 ma do sprzedania przej=B6ci=F3wk=EA 4xIDE.
  28542.  
  28543. Oferty na priv
  28544.  
  28545. Pozdrawiam, Piotrek.
  28546.  
  28547. From owner-amigapl  Mon Mar 23 19:09:42 1998
  28548. Received: from tryton.kaszub.top.pl (root@tryton.kaszub.top.pl [195.116.50.3]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA01161 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 18:57:55 +0100 (MET)
  28549. Received: from key.net.pl (cerber@modem3 [195.116.50.13])
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  28551.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 18:56:44 +0100
  28552. From: Piotr =?iso-8859-2?Q?Ka=BCmierczak?= <cerber@key.net.pl>
  28553. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  28554. Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 18:02:42 -0000
  28555. Message-ID: <yam7386.2121.124588800@195.116.50.3>
  28556. In-Reply-To: <199803230758.IAA24917@www.kki.net.pl>
  28557. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  28558. Organization: Appendix
  28559. Subject: Re: *** Audio A-4000 ***
  28560. MIME-Version: 1.0
  28561. X-ISO-CONVERTED: Yam_ISO2 1.06 (17.11.97) (c) Silver Dream !
  28562. X-YAMISO-UPDATE: ftp://wfmh.org.pl/pub/yam_iso2/
  28563. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  28564. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  28565.  
  28566. Dnia 23-Mar-98, Marcin Soko=B3owski napisa=B3:
  28567. >Szukalem takiego zlacza na plycie - byc moze znalazlem, ale chcialbym si=
  28568. e =
  28569.  
  28570. >upewnic. Czy znajduje sie ono tuz obok gniazda AUDIO ?
  28571. Tak. To jest to! :)
  28572.  
  28573. >No i jak toto podlaczyc? Ktos juz to probowal?
  28574. Tak. Miva (Marek Statkiewicz) zrobi=B3 to przy mnie ;) Zwyk=B3y kabelek o=
  28575. d =
  28576.  
  28577. cdromu u=BFy=B3 (chyba) ;)
  28578.  
  28579. >Czy dzwiek sie miksuje, jesli Amiga cos sle na Audio  i jednoczesnie czy=
  28580. ta =
  28581.  
  28582. >AudioCD ?
  28583. Miksuje si=EA i to strasznie ;) D=BCwi=EAk z p=B3yty CD jest cichy i jak =
  28584. nagle
  28585. w=B3=B1czy Ci si=EA co=B6 z systemu (jaki=B6 bellll) to mo=BFna zawa=B3u =
  28586. dosta=E6 ;)
  28587.  
  28588. -- =
  28589.  
  28590. Kemo Sabay!
  28591.  
  28592. Piotr Kazmierczak          cERBEr of aPPENDIx                  ICQ: 46915=
  28593. 17
  28594. cerber@key.net.pl          http://www.key.net.pl/~cerber       Team AMIGA=
  28595.  
  28596. cerber@airi.plukwa.pdi.net Amiga Integrated Regsite Initiative FidoNet:
  28597. A3000T/030/CV643D/14MB     Radioactive BBS 058-6216107         2:481/60.3=
  28598.  
  28599.  
  28600. From owner-amigapl  Mon Mar 23 20:09:43 1998
  28601. Received: from server.fiber.net.pl (server.fiber.net.pl [195.117.208.101]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA01261 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 19:47:37 +0100 (MET)
  28602. Received: from server.fiber.net.pl
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  28605.           for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 19:47:09 +0100
  28606. From: Marcin Orlowski <carlos@wfmh.org.pl>
  28607. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  28608. Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 14:32:46 +0100
  28609. Message-ID: <yam7386.2315.141394416@server.fiber.net.pl>
  28610. In-Reply-To: <yam7385.250.1747116064@www.tpnet.pl>
  28611. X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 beta10 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
  28612. Organization: W.F.M.H.   (http://wfmh.org.pl)
  28613. Subject: Re: Amiga RC5 Team
  28614. MIME-Version: 1.0
  28615. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  28616. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  28617.  
  28618. Dnia 22-Mar-98, Marcin (radmar) Wasilewski napisa=B3:
  28619. > =
  28620.  
  28621. > znajduje si=EA na poz. 6. Team Win32 (Windows). Przy wsparciu Amigowc=F3=
  28622. w
  28623. > (przez du=BFe A) jest du=BFa szansa aby przegoni=E6 Windows-owc=F3w i u=
  28624. trze=E6 im
  28625. > troch=EA nosa.
  28626.  
  28627. Obawiam si=EA, i=BF dop=F3ki g=B3=F3wnym zaj=EAciem wersji PPC tych=BFe k=
  28628. lient=F3w
  28629. nie przestanie by=E6 wystawianie GURU, ci=EA=BFko b=EAdzie uciera=E6 nosa=
  28630.  komukolwiek ;-(
  28631.  =
  28632.  
  28633. -- =
  28634.  
  28635.  My software never has bugs. It just develops random features.
  28636.  
  28637.  Marcin                              http://wfmh.org.pl/~carlos/
  28638.                                        mailto:carlos@wfmh.org.pl
  28639.  
  28640.  
  28641. From owner-amigapl  Mon Mar 23 20:09:55 1998
  28642. Received: from server.fiber.net.pl (server.fiber.net.pl [195.117.208.101]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA01279 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 19:48:51 +0100 (MET)
  28643. Received: from server.fiber.net.pl
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  28645.           (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with SMTP id ABJ24103
  28646.           for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 19:48:16 +0100
  28647. From: Marcin Orlowski <carlos@wfmh.org.pl>
  28648. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  28649. Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 18:20:41 +0100
  28650. Message-ID: <yam7386.2056.141030328@server.fiber.net.pl>
  28651. In-Reply-To: <yam7384.1375.20280712@kki.net.pl>
  28652. X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 beta10 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
  28653. Organization: W.F.M.H.   (http://wfmh.org.pl)
  28654. Subject: Re: HELP: Fonty-PILNE!
  28655. MIME-Version: 1.0
  28656. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  28657. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  28658.  
  28659. Dnia 21-Mar-98, Pawel Krak napisa=B3:
  28660.  
  28661. > Pilnie potrzebuj=EA czcionek wektorowych z literami greckimi.
  28662. > Pliz sendnijcie na priva. THX.
  28663.  
  28664. Jak nie znajdziesz to zapytaj ch=B3opak=F3w w ATO greckim. Ich
  28665. adres jest w FAQ o ATO (na http://amiga.com.pl/ato/)
  28666.  
  28667. > Reply-To ustawion
  28668.  
  28669. Siur. Na amigapl@amiga.com.pl. Tak jak zawsze z reszt=B1.
  28670. -- =
  28671.  
  28672.  My software never has bugs. It just develops random features.
  28673.  
  28674.  Marcin                              http://wfmh.org.pl/~carlos/
  28675.                                        mailto:carlos@wfmh.org.pl
  28676.  
  28677.  
  28678. From owner-amigapl  Mon Mar 23 20:10:03 1998
  28679. Received: from server.fiber.net.pl (server.fiber.net.pl [195.117.208.101]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA01255 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 19:47:21 +0100 (MET)
  28680. Received: from server.fiber.net.pl
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  28683.           for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 19:46:53 +0100
  28684. From: Marcin Orlowski <carlos@wfmh.org.pl>
  28685. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  28686. Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 18:23:27 +0100
  28687. Message-ID: <yam7386.1385.141030328@server.fiber.net.pl>
  28688. In-Reply-To: <yam7385.1551.19588248@smtp.polbox.com>
  28689. X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 beta10 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
  28690. Organization: W.F.M.H.   (http://wfmh.org.pl)
  28691. Subject: Re: HDEnv
  28692. MIME-Version: 1.0
  28693. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  28694. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  28695.  
  28696. Dnia 22-Mar-98, Adam Lewandowski napisa=B3:
  28697.  
  28698.  
  28699. > Wystarczy na dysku utworzy=E6 jaki=B6 katalog np. "SYS:ENV" lub podobni=
  28700. e
  28701. > i do niego skierowa=E6 przypis "assign ENV: katalog_na_dysku".
  28702.  
  28703. Co w tym takiego odkrywczego? Ka=BFdy maj=B1cy normalny startup co=B6
  28704. takiego znajdzie u siebie. Tyle miast na HDD, jest on na RAM-dysku,
  28705. co jest jak najbardziej sensowne.
  28706.  
  28707. > Na pocz=B1tek mo=BFna skopiowa=E6 do nowego katalogu zawarto=B6=E6 ENVA=
  28708. RC:.
  28709.  
  28710. Co tez robi domyslnie startup-sequence. Po co? Zalecam RTFM.
  28711.  
  28712. > Kompa to nie zwalnia, oszcz=EAdza si=EA czas na poszukiwaniu takich pro=
  28713. gram=F3w.
  28714. > Co=B6 takiego pracuje ju=BF u mnie 2 lata bez problem=F3w.
  28715. > Mo=BFna te=BF tak : assign ENV: Envarc:  ale czasami system wywala komu=
  28716. nikat
  28717. > =BFe "Object in use"
  28718.  
  28719. _Szczerze zalecam RTFM_, bo kto=B6 tu widocznie nie zrozumia=B3 idei ENV:=
  28720.  ENVARC:
  28721.  
  28722. Hej,
  28723.  
  28724. PS: Odradzam korzystanie z rad kolegi.
  28725. -- =
  28726.  
  28727.  My software never has bugs. It just develops random features.
  28728.  
  28729.  Marcin                              http://wfmh.org.pl/~carlos/
  28730.                                        mailto:carlos@wfmh.org.pl
  28731.  
  28732.  
  28733. From owner-amigapl  Mon Mar 23 20:39:41 1998
  28734. Received: from www.kozanow.kor.com.pl (www.kozanow.kor.com.pl [195.117.162.129]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA01433 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 20:30:33 +0100 (MET)
  28735. Received: from michal.kozanow.kor.com.pl (michal.kozanow.kor.com.pl [195.117.162.61])
  28736.     by www.kozanow.kor.com.pl (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA23533
  28737.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 20:30:23 +0100 (CET)
  28738. Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19980323192820.0099d424@www.kor.com.pl>
  28739. X-Sender: michal@www.kor.com.pl
  28740. X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32)
  28741. Mime-Version: 1.0
  28742. Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
  28743. Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 20:28:20 +0100
  28744. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  28745. From: "Michal Szota (mah0met)" <michal@www.kor.com.pl>
  28746. Subject: Re: Wstepniak w MA 3/98
  28747.  
  28748. At 18:03 98-03-23 +0100, Artur Pietruk wrote:
  28749. [www.dom.vr.pl/~drchiry]
  28750. >    Witam. Chcialbym powiedziec ze ja czytamy MA, ale od pol roku nie
  28751. >wpadamy na IRC. Zajrzalem na te strone i musze przyznac ze ... troche sie
  28752. >zdziwilem. TZN. Sama idea jest ok, wszystko jest w pozadku. Zaciekawilo
  28753. >mnie jednak autorstwo strony, pozwole sobie zacytowac fragment tekstu:
  28754. A jednak nie tylko "wypozyczenie" Twojej grafiki jest nieprzyjemne.
  28755. (swoja droga od poczatku cos mi z layoutu strony nie pasowalo...
  28756. teraz wiem, co :)
  28757. W tekscie strony znajduje sie troszeczke klam- i glup- stewek, ktore
  28758. wartoby skorygowac. 
  28759.  
  28760. [cytat ze strony]
  28761. "Dzwiek, w  jaki  wyposazona  jest  standartowo  Amiga  nie
  28762. odbiega od  swiatowych  norm  (Sondblaster  AVE  64)  w  tej
  28763. dziedzinie."
  28764. Amiga jest swietnym komputerem, ale niestety zaden z jej STANDARDOWYCH
  28765. modeli nie jest wyposazony w uklady generujace dzwiek o jakosci
  28766. karty SB AWE.
  28767.  
  28768. Slowa o tepieniu Amigowcow jako "mniejszosci" sa smieszne dla mnie 
  28769. - AMIGOWCA a co dopiero dla posiadaczy innych komputerow...
  28770. Nasz fanatyzm tego nie usprawiedliwia - przeciez slowa "podrecznika"
  28771. nie godza w AMIGOWCOW, lecz w sam komputer.
  28772. IMAO protestowac mozna wylacznie przeciwko atakowi na marke Amiga.
  28773. ZALOZE SIE, ze gdyby w "podreczniku" zamiast "Amiga" wstawiono
  28774. "Optimus", autorzy xiazki juz daaaawno przegraliby proces z napadana
  28775. przez nich firma...
  28776.  
  28777.   .sd$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ba.   .sdba. 
  28778.  a$$ Michal 'Mah0met' Szota $ michal@www.kor.com.pl $$a a$$$$$$a 
  28779.  $$$$$$$           v i v a  A m i g a            $$$$$$ $$$$$$$$
  28780. "OO$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$OO"   "O$$O"
  28781.  
  28782. From owner-amigapl  Mon Mar 23 20:39:49 1998
  28783. Received: from arka.mtl.pl (root@mtl.pl [195.116.4.4]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA01382 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 20:18:00 +0100 (MET)
  28784. Received: from mtl.pl (one@rmod27.mtl.pl [195.116.164.29]) by arka.mtl.pl (8.8.7/8.6.12) with SMTP id UAA19193; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 20:15:27 +0100 (MET)
  28785. From: Filip Kopec <one@mtl.pl>
  28786. To: Multiple recipients of list AMIGA <amiga@plearn.edu.pl>,
  28787.         WFMH nowa lista <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  28788. Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 20:13:56 +0100
  28789. Message-ID: <yam7386.2800.2014942160@arka.mtl.pl>
  28790. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  28791. Subject: PDFy
  28792. MIME-Version: 1.0
  28793. Content-Type: text/plain
  28794.  
  28795. Witam!
  28796.  
  28797. Czym to ugryzc na Amidze?  ...czy tylko pod SS z Acrobatem?
  28798. -- 
  28799.  Filip Kopec   mailto:one@mtl.pl
  28800.  
  28801. From owner-amigapl  Mon Mar 23 20:39:55 1998
  28802. Received: from www.kki.net.pl (www.kki.net.pl [195.116.9.70]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA01391 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 20:19:04 +0100 (MET)
  28803. Received: from kki.net.pl (AKM-MAYA@pppb59.szczecin.tpnet.pl [195.205.239.59])
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  28805.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 20:18:51 +0100
  28806. From: Adam Majewski <akmmaya@kki.net.pl>
  28807. Reply-To: akmmaya@kki.net.pl
  28808. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  28809. Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 20:05:56 +0100
  28810. Message-ID: <yam7386.2816.1747774728@kki.net.pl>
  28811. In-Reply-To: <199803231323.OAA31695@www.kki.net.pl>
  28812. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  28813. Subject: Re: Odp: cd.device
  28814. MIME-Version: 1.0
  28815. X-ISO-CONVERTED: Yam_ISO2 1.06 (17.11.97) (c) Silver Dream !
  28816. X-YAMISO-UPDATE: ftp://wfmh.org.pl/pub/yam_iso2/
  28817. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  28818. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  28819.  
  28820. Dnia 23-Mar-98, Marcin Soko=B3owski napisa=B3:
  28821.  
  28822. >>Mam taki problem:
  28823. >>Po w=B3=B1czeniu komputera i pierwszym =B3adowaniu systemu nie otwiera
  28824. >>si=EA cd.device. Aby korzysta=E6 z cd-romu musz=EA ponownie za=B3adowa=E6=
  28825.  
  28826. >>system naciskaj=B1c dobrze znane trzy magiczne klawisze (Ctrl-A-A :)
  28827. >>Potem jest OK.
  28828. >>Win=EA za to ponosi umieszczony w startapie: OpenOXYPPort
  28829. >>i PrepareEMUL, bez nich wszystko jest OK.
  28830.  
  28831. >>I teraz pytania:
  28832. >>Czy takie zachowanie si=EA systemu jest normalne?
  28833. >>Czy dzieje si=EA to u kogo=B6 jeszcze?
  28834. >>Co z tym mog=EA zrobi=E6?
  28835.  
  28836. >-----------------------------------------
  28837. >Mozesz przesiasc sie na FUSION - on ma Rsvcold (warm) - takie programiki=
  28838.  a la
  28839. >PrepareEmul do Szejpa, ktore maja support dla OXY Patchera. Byc moze wte=
  28840. dy
  28841. >cd.device sie zaladuje OK...
  28842. >----------------------
  28843.  
  28844. Problem w tym, =BFe nawet sam OpenOXYPPort robi swoje
  28845. i jak si=EA instaluje w pami=EAci po raz pierwszy to cd.device
  28846. te=BF si=EA nie otwiera :( A wi=EAc czy jest to sam OXYPort,
  28847. sam Prepareemul, lub oba razem zawsze jest tak samo :(
  28848.  
  28849. A je=B6li chodzi o RSVcold/warm to ani jeden ani drugi nie
  28850. chcia=B3 w og=F3le dzia=B3a=E6 (z parametrami dla OXY). Po prostu
  28851. zwiecha zaraz po uruchomieniu tego programiku i tak w k=F3=B3ko.
  28852. Pomaga=B3o jedynie wy=B3=B1czenie AMISI na pewien czas :(
  28853.  
  28854.  
  28855. -- =
  28856.  
  28857. Pozdrawiam :-)
  28858.  
  28859. mailto: akmmaya@kki.net.pl
  28860. www: http://www.kki.net.pl/akmmaya
  28861.  
  28862. :-)  w=F3wren  eibos  juCP  ein  (-:
  28863.                                                            Adam Majewski
  28864.  
  28865. From owner-amigapl  Mon Mar 23 21:09:46 1998
  28866. Received: from silter.silesia.top.pl (silter.silesia.top.pl [195.117.67.3]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA01535 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 20:53:54 +0100 (MET)
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  28870. Date: 23 Mar 98 20:45:49 +0100
  28871. From: "Grzegorz Juraszek" <yoyo@silesia.top.pl>
  28872. Subject: Re: WordWorth 7
  28873. To: "AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi" <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  28874. In-Reply-To: <yam7386.207.1749955344@www.tpnet.pl>
  28875. Message-ID: <1157.386T2454T12452986@silesia.top.pl>
  28876. MIME-Version: 1.0
  28877. Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  28878. Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
  28879. X-Mailer: THOR 2.5 (Amiga;TCP/IP) *UNREGISTERED*
  28880.  
  28881. Hello Ryszard Sajdak, on 23-Mar-98    18:22:04 you wrote:
  28882.  
  28883. >Czy ma kto¶ mo¿e jakie¶ informacje na temat nowego WordWorth-a 7?
  28884.  
  28885.  
  28886. WHAT'S NEW IN WORDWORTH 7
  28887.  
  28888.  
  28889.    °  Linkable Text Frames
  28890.  
  28891.    °  Automatic Spell Checking
  28892.  
  28893.    °  More Spell Settings
  28894.  
  28895.    °  Snap To Grid for objects.
  28896.  
  28897.    °  Align objects
  28898.  
  28899.    °  Quick Shapes
  28900.  
  28901.    °  Right double-click popup menus
  28902.  
  28903.    °  Cool Look Interface
  28904.  
  28905.    °  Improved RTF support
  28906.  
  28907.    °  Improved undo, undoes object movement/re-sizing,
  28908.       text formatting, etc.
  28909.  
  28910.    °  Picture borders. Borders can be specified for
  28911.       pictures in the Information requester.
  28912.  
  28913.    °  Font styles (bold, italic, small caps) can be
  28914.       used in Text Effects.
  28915.  
  28916.    °  When the mouse pointer is moved past the left
  28917.       margin it points to the right, and you can
  28918.       select whole lines of text.
  28919.  
  28920.    °  The startup screen disappears immediately
  28921.       after Wordworth has loaded.
  28922.  
  28923.  
  28924. --
  28925.    Grzegorz Juraszek * Yoyo^Twilight * Amiga user * AIRI & ATO PL member
  28926.        mailto:yoyo@silesia.top.pl * http://www.silesia.top.pl/~yoyo
  28927. --
  28928.              "Let the truth be known though the heavens fall"
  28929.                     Agent Mulder * The X-Files * Redux
  28930.  
  28931. From owner-amigapl  Mon Mar 23 21:39:44 1998
  28932. Received: from student.uci.agh.edu.pl (ramix@student.uci.agh.edu.pl [149.156.98.60]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA01661 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 21:39:10 +0100 (MET)
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  28935. Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 21:38:53 +0100 (MET)
  28936. From: Grzegorz Junka <ramix@student.uci.agh.edu.pl>
  28937. X-Sender: ramix@student
  28938. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  28939. Subject: Re: Odp: MUSASHI and AmigaOS
  28940. In-Reply-To: <199803231625.RAA15897@arka.mtl.pl>
  28941. Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.95.980323213816.25067B-100000@student>
  28942. MIME-Version: 1.0
  28943. Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-2
  28944. Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE
  28945.  
  28946. > Zgadzam si=EA. W zwi=B1zku z tym mam pomys=B3/pro=B6b=EA: Czy mo=BFna by =
  28947. za=B3o=BFy=E6 list=EA
  28948. > pluj-na-pc, na kt=F3rej takie tematy by=B3yby dozwolone? My=B6l=EA, =BFe =
  28949. by si=EA
  28950. > przyda=B3a. Chyba du=BFo os=F3b by si=EA zapisa=B3o na ni=B1. Ja napewno
  28951.  
  28952. Jakby sie tak powaznie zastanowic, to taka lista, podszyta humorkiem,
  28953. byla by nawet ciekawym eksperymentem? :>
  28954.  
  28955. --
  28956. ,x80Y^"=09Member of Amiga Promotion Group and fanatic AMIGA user
  28957. $0+'=09=09=09Grzegorz Junka "Bastian"
  28958. 08=09piccolo@ibm.uci.agh.edu.pl=09bastian@apg.plukwa.pdi.net
  28959. 0'
  28960. 9=09A1200Inf 040/40Bliz 32Mb 1.6Gb 12x 1942S CN40BC
  28961.  
  28962. From owner-amigapl  Mon Mar 23 22:09:41 1998
  28963. Received: from butler.medianet.pl (root@butler.medianet.com.pl [195.116.184.2]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA01748 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 22:08:03 +0100 (MET)
  28964. Received: from mail.union.org.pl (virtual.medianet.pl [195.116.184.254])
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  28966.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 22:08:40 +0100 (MET)
  28967. Received: from union.org.pl (Konrad@dial-79.medianet.pl [195.116.185.79])
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  28969.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 22:05:58 GMT
  28970. From: Konrad Bielski <dominor@union.org.pl>
  28971. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  28972. Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 22:01:38 +0100
  28973. Message-ID: <yam7386.1940.141291968@mail.union.org.pl>
  28974. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.3a [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  28975. Subject: Re: Wstepniak w MA 3/98
  28976. MIME-Version: 1.0
  28977. X-ISO-CONVERTED: Yam_ISO2 1.04 (28.10.97) (c) Silver Dream !
  28978. X-YAMISO-UPDATE: ftp://wfmh.man.szczecin.pl/pub/yam_iso2/
  28979. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  28980. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  28981.  
  28982. Dnia 23-Mar-98, Artur Pietruk napisa=B3:
  28983.  
  28984. >Strona sklada sie w zasadzie z podkladu i tekstu, przy czym
  28985. >chcialbym zauwazyc ze podklady sa MOJEGO autorstwa, pochodza z Plukwy, i=
  28986.  
  28987. >wydaje mi sie ze byc moze kulturalnie byloby sie zapytac mnie czy
  28988. >mozna uzyc grafiki wykonanej prze ze mnie gdzie indziej. Tymbardziej ze
  28989. >strona ta nie zawiera zadnej innej grafiki poza ta wykonana prze ze mnie=
  28990. =2E
  28991. >A niestety wsrod autorow strony nie zauwazylem swojego nazwiska, coz, mo=
  28992. ze
  28993. >to ja jestem pozbawiony kultury i nie powinienem nawet pisac tego listu.=
  28994.  
  28995.  
  28996. Teraz ja dorzuce swoje trzy grosze.
  28997.  
  28998. Na stronie o kt=F3rej mowa znajduje sie r=F3wnie=BF fragment
  28999. stron Magazynu Amiga, kt=F3ry zosta=B3 zamieszczony bez
  29000. zgody redakcji Magazynu Amiga, autor strony nie zaznaczy=B3
  29001. r=F3wnie=BF sk=B1d pochodzi ten fragment, ani kto jest autorem HTMLa
  29002. W dodatku obawiam si=EA, =BFe autor nie zdaje sobie sprawy, =BFe
  29003. prawa autorskie zamieszczonego tekstu posiada tylko i wy=B3=B1cznie
  29004. Gazeta Wyborcza BiK, za=B6 sam tekst zosta=B3 zamieszczony na
  29005. stronach Magazynu Amiga za jednorazow=B1 zgod=B1 redakcji
  29006. Gazety Wyborczej.
  29007.  
  29008. W tym miejscu prosz=EA autora strony o natychmiastowe usuni=EAcie
  29009. wymienionego wy=BFej fragmentu z jego strony.
  29010.  
  29011. Przepraszam r=F3wnie=BF reszt=EA listowicz=F3w nie zainteresowanych
  29012. tym przykrym tematem.
  29013.  
  29014. Pozdrawiam,
  29015. -- =
  29016.  
  29017.                Konrad Bielski
  29018.         E-mail: dominor@union.org.pl
  29019. Pracuje na: A4000T 604e/200 - 060/50 98MB CV64/3D
  29020.             A1200T 060/50 10MB
  29021.                 =
  29022.  
  29023.  
  29024. From owner-amigapl  Mon Mar 23 22:09:48 1998
  29025. Received: from student.uci.agh.edu.pl (ramix@student.uci.agh.edu.pl [149.156.98.60]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA01707 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 21:49:21 +0100 (MET)
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  29028. Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 21:49:11 +0100 (MET)
  29029. From: Grzegorz Junka <ramix@student.uci.agh.edu.pl>
  29030. X-Sender: ramix@student
  29031. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  29032. Subject: Re: Amiga RC5 Team
  29033. In-Reply-To: <yam7386.2315.141394416@server.fiber.net.pl>
  29034. Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.95.980323214408.25067D-100000@student>
  29035. MIME-Version: 1.0
  29036. Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-2
  29037. Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE
  29038.  
  29039. > > znajduje si=EA na poz. 6. Team Win32 (Windows). Przy wsparciu Amigowc=
  29040. =F3w
  29041. > > (przez du=BFe A) jest du=BFa szansa aby przegoni=E6 Windows-owc=F3w i u=
  29042. trze=E6 im
  29043. > > troch=EA nosa.
  29044. >=20
  29045. > Obawiam si=EA, i=BF dop=F3ki g=B3=F3wnym zaj=EAciem wersji PPC tych=BFe k=
  29046. lient=F3w
  29047. > nie przestanie by=E6 wystawianie GURU, ci=EA=BFko b=EAdzie uciera=E6 nosa=
  29048.  komukolwiek ;-(
  29049.  
  29050. Ten klient ktory podeslal Radmar nie chcial sie laczyc bezposrednio przez
  29051. siec i AmiTCP z serwerem i sciagac blokow. Tez z kolei sciagniety dzisiaj
  29052. ze stron rc5 na Amige, laczyl sie, sciagnal 10 blokow, przeliczyl i
  29053. wyslal, po czym sie zawiesil ;-(. Na czym tu stawac w szranki, skoro
  29054. wszystko sie sypie?
  29055.  
  29056. Przy okazji pytanie - co to jest DES? Nowy klient rc5des liczy na dwa
  29057. sposoby - rc5 i des. 10 blokow i to dluzszych niz przy rc5 zostaly w des
  29058. przeliczone w ok. 2 minuty! Myslalem, ze to cos innego niz rc5, ale w
  29059. readme pisze jak byk, ze proponuja, ze jesli zaczyna sie dopiero teraz
  29060. zabawe, lepiej zaczac od razu od des, zamiast rc5. Moze ktos jest bardziej
  29061. oswiecony, ode mnie?
  29062.  
  29063. --
  29064. ,x80Y^"=09Member of Amiga Promotion Group and fanatic AMIGA user
  29065. $0+'=09=09=09Grzegorz Junka "Bastian"
  29066. 08=09piccolo@ibm.uci.agh.edu.pl=09bastian@apg.plukwa.pdi.net
  29067. 0'
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  29069.  
  29070. From owner-amigapl  Mon Mar 23 22:39:44 1998
  29071. Received: from student.uci.agh.edu.pl (ramix@student.uci.agh.edu.pl [149.156.98.60]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA01823 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 22:31:37 +0100 (MET)
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  29073.        id WAA28572; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 22:31:13 +0100 (MET)
  29074. Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 22:31:13 +0100 (MET)
  29075. From: Grzegorz Junka <ramix@student.uci.agh.edu.pl>
  29076. X-Sender: ramix@student
  29077. To: Lista dyskusyjna uzytkownikow komputera AMIGA AMIGAPL <AMIGA@PLEARN.EDU.PL>
  29078. cc: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  29079. Subject: klient maila
  29080. Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.95.980323222723.28331B-100000@student>
  29081. MIME-Version: 1.0
  29082. Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
  29083.  
  29084.  
  29085. Czy tak jak jest ftpd, httpd, jest tez demon obslugi poczty elektronicznej
  29086. na Amige? Przypuszczam, ze tak, chociaz chyba troche inaczej sie go
  29087. obsluguje niz tamte. Chcialem sie spytac, jakie to programy i skad je
  29088. mozna sciagnac (chodzi mi o obsluge smtp, nntp i podobne). chyba ze
  29089. istnieje inny sposob by zmusic fetchmail (geekgadgets) do sciagania plikow
  29090. z konta na Amige.
  29091.  
  29092. --
  29093. ,x80Y^"    Member of Amiga Promotion Group and fanatic AMIGA user
  29094. $0+'            Grzegorz Junka "Bastian"
  29095. 08    piccolo@ibm.uci.agh.edu.pl    bastian@apg.plukwa.pdi.net
  29096. 0'
  29097. 9    A1200Inf 040/40Bliz 32Mb 1.6Gb 12x 1942S CN40BC
  29098.  
  29099. From owner-amigapl  Mon Mar 23 22:39:51 1998
  29100. Received: from www.kki.net.pl (www.kki.net.pl [195.116.9.70]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA01788 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 22:15:17 +0100 (MET)
  29101. Received: from kki.net.pl (Amy@ppp216.gdynia.tpnet.pl [194.204.135.216])
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  29103.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 22:15:05 +0100
  29104. From: Pawel Krak <phob@kki.net.pl>
  29105. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  29106. Date: Tue, 03 Mar 1998 21:42:55 +0100
  29107. Message-ID: <yam7366.2788.19034896@kki.net.pl>
  29108. In-Reply-To: <yam7383.40.19594880@smtp.polbox.com>
  29109. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  29110. Subject: Re: HDEnv itp...
  29111. MIME-Version: 1.0
  29112. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  29113. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  29114.  
  29115. Dnia 20-Mar-98, Adam Lewandowski napisal:
  29116. >Cze=F4=EA!
  29117. Hi
  29118.  
  29119. >Co s=E2dzicie o #istnieniu# takich program=F3w jak HDEnv i jemu
  29120. podobnych?
  29121. Ja nie narzekam. Uzywam HDEnv od chyba dwoch lat i nigdy nie mialem
  29122. z nim zadnych problemow. Przy pamiatce w jaka moja Amy jest wyposazona
  29123. od jakegos pol roku nie ma on juz takiego duzego znaczenia, ale w
  29124. czasie gdy mialem tylko rozszerzenie 4MB HDEnv dawal duza oszczednosc
  29125. pamiatki (teraz tez daje tylko sie tego tak nie odczuwa :))) i czasu
  29126. przy bootowaniu. Slowem: polecam
  29127.  
  29128. >Pytanie z kr=EBgu podchwytliwych, ale napiszcie.
  29129. Hmmm...jakis test na inteligencje? ;)
  29130. -- =
  29131.  
  29132. See ya!                                          Phobos
  29133. -----------------------------------------------------------
  29134. Pawel Krak * IRC:Phobos_ * mailto:phob@kki.net.pl
  29135. A1200/040/33MHz/18MB/420MB/1084S/CanonBJC240/BrightCom33600
  29136. -----------------------------------------------------------
  29137.  
  29138. From owner-amigapl  Mon Mar 23 23:09:41 1998
  29139. Received: from www.kozanow.kor.com.pl (www.kozanow.kor.com.pl [195.117.162.129]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA01918 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 22:50:22 +0100 (MET)
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  29142.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 22:50:06 +0100 (CET)
  29143. Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19980323214808.009a9874@www.kor.com.pl>
  29144. X-Sender: michal@www.kor.com.pl
  29145. X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32)
  29146. Mime-Version: 1.0
  29147. Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
  29148. Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 22:48:08 +0100
  29149. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  29150. From: "Michal Szota (mah0met)" <michal@www.kor.com.pl>
  29151. Subject: PlujNaPc Lista (bylo: Re: MUSASHI and AmigaOS)
  29152.  
  29153. >Jakby sie tak powaznie zastanowic, to taka lista, podszyta humorkiem,
  29154. >byla by nawet ciekawym eksperymentem? :>
  29155. popieram w 100%.
  29156.   .sd$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ba.   .sdba. 
  29157.  a$$ Michal 'Mah0met' Szota $ michal@www.kor.com.pl $$a a$$$$$$a 
  29158.  $$$$$$$           v i v a  A m i g a            $$$$$$ $$$$$$$$
  29159. "OO$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$OO"   "O$$O"
  29160.  
  29161.  
  29162. From owner-amigapl  Mon Mar 23 23:39:42 1998
  29163. Received: from www.kki.net.pl (www.kki.net.pl [195.116.9.70]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA01982 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 23:15:20 +0100 (MET)
  29164. Received: from kki.net.pl (STEAD@pmone233.lodz.pdi.net [195.116.162.233])
  29165.     by www.kki.net.pl (8.8.7/8.8.7.ver6) with SMTP id XAA32497
  29166.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 23:14:59 +0100
  29167. From: Stefan Koralewski <stead@kki.net.pl>
  29168. Reply-To: stead@kki.net.pl
  29169. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  29170. Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 12:07:06 -0500
  29171. Message-ID: <yam7386.279.1747239640@kki.net.pl>
  29172. In-Reply-To: <Pine.NEB.3.96.980323091217.8866I-100000@amiga.com.pl>
  29173. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.2 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  29174. Organization: STEAD
  29175. Subject: Re: Wstepniak w MA 3/98
  29176. MIME-Version: 1.0
  29177. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
  29178. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  29179.  
  29180. Dnia 23-Mar-98, Marcin Orlowski napisa=EE:
  29181. ***On Sun, 22 Mar 1998, Stefan Koralewski wrote:
  29182.  
  29183. ***> Zapraszam wszystkich na adres http://www.dom.vr.pl/~drchiry.
  29184. ***> To w zwiazku z Magazynem Amiga nr. 3 - konkretnie chodzi o wstepniak=
  29185. =2E
  29186. ***> Nie wszyscy wpadacie na IRC lub czytacie MA, wiec wpadnijcie pod ten=
  29187.  adres.
  29188. ***> Jest tam dokladnie opisane o co chodzi.
  29189.  
  29190. ***Zeby jeszcze formualrz zechcialbyc poprawnie napisany (Sondblaster tez=
  29191. ).
  29192.  
  29193. SondBlaster zostanie poprawiony - dzieki za zwrocenie uwagi. Sam juz wyla=
  29194. palem kilka literowek i zwrocilem na to uwage. Rzeczywiscie, skoro ma to =
  29195. byc wyslane do instytucji typu
  29196.  ministerstwo nie powinno zawierac takowych.
  29197. Z formularzem sprawa jest dosyc dziwna. Niestety nie ja go pisalem. Nie o=
  29198. bsluguje go poprawnie IBrowse 1.12, podobno dobrze dziala pod Ibrowse 1.2=
  29199. =2E Na pewno dobrze pod VoyageremNG. Wpadlem jednak na to dlaczego tak si=
  29200. e dzieje i wkrotce rowniez pod Ibrowse 1.1x tez bedzie dzialac. =
  29201.  
  29202. Mysle, ze jednak sprawa warta jest poparcia, im wieksze poparcie tym wiek=
  29203. sza szansa na sukces w tej sprawie. =
  29204.  
  29205.  
  29206. -- =
  29207.  
  29208. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
  29209. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
  29210. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
  29211. | STEAD is registered and trademark and bla, bla, bla... |
  29212. |         _                                              |
  29213. |        // STEad Stefan Koralewski   A-12oo/o3o/5o/32Mb |         =
  29214.  
  29215. |       // steAD Adam Tynenski        CDR/4.8Gb Hdd/SCSI |
  29216. | _ /\ // stead@kki.net.pl            M1538s/HDFlop/28.8 |
  29217. | \\\/// stead@lodz.pdi.net                              |
  29218. |  \\// PPC603e/250/40 cooming soon czyli budziet bystra |       =
  29219.  
  29220. |   ""                                                   |  =
  29221.  
  29222. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
  29223. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
  29224. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
  29225.  
  29226. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 24 00:39:41 1998
  29227. Received: from bbs.chip.pl (bbs.chip.pl [195.116.104.14]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA02136 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 00:20:32 +0100 (MET)
  29228. Received: from [194.204.139.71] by bbs.chip.pl id 1bd0.wrk; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 00:13:58 +0100
  29229. From: Adam Lewandowski <leware3@polbox.com>
  29230. Reply-To: leware3@polbox.com
  29231. To: amigapl@amiga.com.pl
  29232. Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 00:03:23 +0100
  29233. Message-ID: <yam7387.1150.19766632@smtp.polbox.com>
  29234. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  29235. Organization: Chata privata
  29236. Subject: Koniec HDEnv
  29237. MIME-Version: 1.0
  29238. X-ISO-CONVERTED: Yam_ISO2 1.06 (17.11.97) (c) Silver Dream !
  29239. X-YAMISO-UPDATE: ftp://wfmh.org.pl/pub/yam_iso2/
  29240. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  29241. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  29242.  
  29243. Cze=B6=E6 !
  29244.  
  29245. Przepraszam wszystkich, ktorych wzburzy=B3 m=F3j list o HDEnv i jemu podo=
  29246. bnych.
  29247. Tak jak Marcin napisa=B3, NIE musicie mnie s=B3ucha=E6, gdy=BF to by=B3a =
  29248. tylko moja
  29249. propozycja kontra podane programy.
  29250. Je=BFeli kto=B6 jest zadowolony z u=BFywanych program=F3w to dobrze.
  29251. Znaczy to, =BFe TO jest mu potrzebne i wie czego chce.
  29252.  
  29253. Wi=EAcej nie b=EAd=EA pisa=B3 o rzeczach, kt=F3re wszyscy znaj=B1.
  29254. Ogranicze sie tylko do mojej dzia=B3ki, czyli drukarki EPSONA.
  29255.  
  29256. Jeszcze raz przepraszam listowicz=F3w, =BFe musieli to czyta=E6.
  29257. Temat uwa=BFam za zamkni=EAty.
  29258.  
  29259. Pozdrawiam
  29260.  
  29261. LeWaR
  29262.  
  29263. -- =
  29264.  
  29265.                 -+----------------------------------------+-
  29266.                  |        LeWaR - Adam Lewandowski        |      =
  29267.  
  29268.                  | A1k2T APOLLO 040/33 48MB RAM 2,5GB HDD | =
  29269.  
  29270.                  |    Home: leware3@polbox.com            |
  29271.                  |    Work: corso@bbs.chip.pl             |              =
  29272.  
  29273.                 -+----------------------------------------+-
  29274.  
  29275. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 24 00:39:49 1998
  29276. Received: from dns1.supermedia.pl (dns1.supermedia.pl [195.116.124.17]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA02176 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 00:38:48 +0100 (MET)
  29277. Received: from ppp-cst213.warszawa.tpnet.pl (ppp-cst213.warszawa.tpnet.pl [194.204.131.213]) by dns1.supermedia.pl (NTMail 3.03.0014/4c.aamn) with ESMTP id aa462852 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 00:34:42 +0100
  29278. From: Peter Drapich <docent@union.org.pl>
  29279. Reply-To: docent@union.org.pl
  29280. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  29281. Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 23:54:39 +0100
  29282. Message-ID: <yam7384.1978.137339192@mail.supermedia.pl>
  29283. In-Reply-To: <yam7386.2800.2014942160@arka.mtl.pl>
  29284. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  29285. Organization: Union Systems
  29286. Subject: Re: PDFy
  29287. MIME-Version: 1.0
  29288. Content-Type: text/plain
  29289.  
  29290. On 23-Mar-98, Filip Kopec wrote:
  29291. >Witam!
  29292.  
  29293. >Czym to ugryzc na Amidze?  ...czy tylko pod SS z Acrobatem?
  29294.  
  29295. jest xpdf na aminecie
  29296.  
  29297. Docent
  29298.  
  29299. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 24 01:39:41 1998
  29300. Received: from www.kki.net.pl (www.kki.net.pl [195.116.9.70]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA02254 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 01:22:23 +0100 (MET)
  29301. Received: from kki.net.pl (STEAD@pmone254.lodz.pdi.net [195.116.162.254])
  29302.     by www.kki.net.pl (8.8.7/8.8.7.ver6) with SMTP id BAA03047
  29303.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 01:21:50 +0100
  29304. From: Stefan Koralewski <stead@kki.net.pl>
  29305. Reply-To: stead@kki.net.pl
  29306. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  29307. Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 00:03:08 -0500
  29308. Message-ID: <yam7387.422.1748438104@kki.net.pl>
  29309. In-Reply-To: <yam7386.1940.141291968@mail.union.org.pl>
  29310. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.2 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  29311. Organization: STEAD
  29312. Subject: Re: Wstepniak w MA 3/98
  29313. MIME-Version: 1.0
  29314. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
  29315. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  29316.  
  29317. Dnia 23-Mar-98, Konrad Bielski napisa=EE:
  29318.  
  29319.  
  29320. ***Na stronie o kt=F3rej mowa znajduje sie r=F3wnie=BF fragment
  29321. ***stron Magazynu Amiga, kt=F3ry zosta=B3 zamieszczony bez
  29322. ***zgody redakcji Magazynu Amiga, autor strony nie zaznaczy=B3
  29323. ***r=F3wnie=BF sk=B1d pochodzi ten fragment, ani kto jest autorem HTMLa
  29324. ***W dodatku obawiam si=EA, =BFe autor nie zdaje sobie sprawy, =BFe
  29325. ***prawa autorskie zamieszczonego tekstu posiada tylko i wy=B3=B1cznie
  29326. ***Gazeta Wyborcza BiK, za=B6 sam tekst zosta=B3 zamieszczony na
  29327. ***stronach Magazynu Amiga za jednorazow=B1 zgod=B1 redakcji
  29328. ***Gazety Wyborczej.
  29329.  
  29330. ***W tym miejscu prosz=EA autora strony o natychmiastowe usuni=EAcie
  29331. ***wymienionego wy=BFej fragmentu z jego strony.
  29332.  
  29333. Hmm..., Nie jest moim (naszym - wszak stron=EB tworzy=EEo kilka os=F3b) c=
  29334. elem =EEamanie niczyich
  29335. praw autorskich. Dlatego wszystkie uwagi, nawet bardzo krytyczne przyjmuj=
  29336. emy bardzo powaznie !!!. Poniewaz to ja sam pisa=EEem wiekszo=F4=EA tekst=
  29337. =F3w, wi=EBc tym bardziej czuj=EB si=EB
  29338. zobowi=E2zany do odpowiedzi.
  29339. O kt=F3ry z "zapo=FByczonych" fragment=F3w chodzi ?
  29340. Czy o fragment z Gazety Wyborczej pt. "Mimo  bankructwa Commodore Amiga m=
  29341. a si=EB dobrze"? =
  29342.  
  29343. Czytam wszystkie numery i nie przypominam sobie przedruk=F3w tego=FB html=
  29344. -a w MA. Poza tym jest on podpisany !!!. Wi=EBc to mo=FBe nie o to chodzi=
  29345.  ? Tym niemniej dzi=EBki za zwr=F3cenie uwagi na fakt, =FBe nikt nie pyta=
  29346. =EE sie GW o zgod=EB.
  29347.  
  29348. Je=FBeli natomiast chodzi o fragment z MA (nr. 3/98 - Wst=EBpniak) - tu w=
  29349.  rzeczy samej nast=E2pi=EEo  skopiowanie pewnego fragmentu. Chcia=EEbym j=
  29350. ednak zauwa=FBy=EA, =FBe jako jeden ze wsp=F3=EEtw=F3rc=F3w tego protestu=
  29351.  wyst=EBpuje pan Marek Pampuch, kt=F3ry nie krytykowa=EE tego faktu. On r=
  29352. =F3wnie=FB "pope=EEni=EE" s=EEowo wst=EBpne.
  29353.  
  29354. Pozdrawiam i czekam na odpowied=FA. Mam nadziej=EB, =FBe wszystkie niejas=
  29355. no=F4ci zostan=E2 rozwi=E2zane =
  29356.  
  29357.  
  29358. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
  29359. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
  29360. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
  29361. | STEAD is registered and trademark and bla, bla, bla... |
  29362. |         _                                              |
  29363. |        // STEad Stefan Koralewski   A-12oo/o3o/5o/32Mb |         =
  29364.  
  29365. |       // steAD Adam Tynenski        CDR/4.8Gb Hdd/SCSI |
  29366. | _ /\ // stead@kki.net.pl            M1538s/HDFlop/28.8 |
  29367. | \\\/// stead@lodz.pdi.net                              |
  29368. |  \\// PPC603e/250/40 cooming soon czyli budziet bystra |       =
  29369.  
  29370. |   ""                                                   |  =
  29371.  
  29372. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
  29373. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
  29374. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
  29375.  
  29376. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 24 01:39:48 1998
  29377. Received: from www.kki.net.pl (www.kki.net.pl [195.116.9.70]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA02255 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 01:22:26 +0100 (MET)
  29378. Received: from kki.net.pl (STEAD@pmone254.lodz.pdi.net [195.116.162.254])
  29379.     by www.kki.net.pl (8.8.7/8.8.7.ver6) with SMTP id BAA03042
  29380.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 01:21:46 +0100
  29381. From: Stefan Koralewski <stead@kki.net.pl>
  29382. Reply-To: stead@kki.net.pl
  29383. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  29384. Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 00:35:59 -0500
  29385. Message-ID: <yam7387.2972.1748438104@kki.net.pl>
  29386. In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.19980323192820.0099d424@www.kor.com.pl>
  29387. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.2 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  29388. Organization: STEAD
  29389. Subject: Re: Wstepniak w MA 3/98
  29390. MIME-Version: 1.0
  29391. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
  29392. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  29393.  
  29394. ***W tekscie strony znajduje sie troszeczke klam- i glup- stewek, ktore
  29395. ***wartoby skorygowac. =
  29396.  
  29397.  
  29398. **"Dzwiek, w  jaki  wyposazona  jest  standartowo  Amiga  nie
  29399. ***odbiega od  swiatowych  norm  (Sondblaster  AVE  64)  w  tej
  29400. ***dziedzinie."
  29401. ***Amiga jest swietnym komputerem, ale niestety zaden z jej STANDARDOWYCH=
  29402.  
  29403. ***modeli nie jest wyposazony w uklady generujace dzwiek o jakosci
  29404. ***karty SB AWE.
  29405.  
  29406. Polemik=EB na ten temat pozostawiam specjalistom. Rzeczywi=F4cie masz rac=
  29407. j=EB, trudno jednak tworz=E2c tekst bardzo szybko nie pope=EEni=EA nijaki=
  29408. ch pomy=EEek.
  29409. Przyznaj=EB si=EB zatem do faktu, i=FB niepotrzebnie u=FBy=EEem tego w=EE=
  29410. a=F4nie sprz=EBtu (Soundblaster AVE 64) jako przyk=EEadu "=F4wiatowej nor=
  29411. my". W rzeczywisto=F4ci nie jest to =FBaden standart, gdy=FB
  29412. najcz=EB=F4ciej sprzedawane karty nazywaj=E2 si=EB SounBlasterPro Compati=
  29413. ble
  29414. Po raz wt=F3ry powtarzam - przy tworzeniu owej strony nie by=EEo niczyim =
  29415. celem napadanie na kogo=F4, ch=EB=EA pogwa=EEcenia czyich=F4 praw autorsk=
  29416. ich, czy te=FB wypisywanie k=EEamstewek lub g=EEupstewek.
  29417. PS. Niejednokrotnie s=EEysza=EEem w akcji SoundBlaster AVE 64. Rzeczywi=F4=
  29418. cie d=FAwi=EBk tej=FBe karty powala=EE do momentu. w kt=F3rym us=EEysza=EE=
  29419. em Symphonie i DigiBoosteraPRO v. 2.17. Nie widz=EB =FBadnej r=F3=FBnicy =
  29420. w d=FAwi=EBku, gdy=FB laik w dziedzinie muzyki (a takim niew=E2tpliwie je=
  29421. stem) nie rozr=F3=FBnia jako=F4ci d=FAwi=EBku generowanego przez SB AVE 6=
  29422. 4 z jednej strony, a Symphonie czy tez DBPro z drugiej.
  29423. Tym niemniej, aby zapobiec pom=F3wieniom o wypisywanie k=EEamstewek skory=
  29424. gujemy "=F4wiatowy standart" wpisuj=E2c tam SoundBlasterPro Compatible. S=
  29425. zum=F3w generowanych przez te karty nigdy nie s=EEysza=EEem w dobrze napi=
  29426. sanych modu=EEach Symphonie lub DBPro, ale co mi tam.
  29427. Mo=FBe tak by=EA?
  29428.  
  29429. ***Slowa o tepieniu Amigowcow jako "mniejszosci" sa smieszne dla mnie =
  29430.  
  29431. ***- AMIGOWCA a co dopiero dla posiadaczy innych komputerow...
  29432.  
  29433. Hmm, to natomiast jest Twoje zdanie na ten temat, widocznie nigdy nie s=EE=
  29434. ysza=EEe=F4 napa=F4ci na posiadaczy "grat=F3w". Tym niemniej Twoj=E2 uwag=
  29435. =EB przeka=FB=EB autorowi niniejszych s=EE=F3w - panu Markowi Pampuchowi.=
  29436.  
  29437.  
  29438. ***Nasz fanatyzm tego nie usprawiedliwia - przeciez slowa "podrecznika"
  29439. ***nie godza w AMIGOWCOW, lecz w sam komputer.
  29440.  
  29441. W rzeczy samej... W najrozmaitszy spos=F3b zinterpretowa=EA mo=FBna fragm=
  29442. encik ze "Wsp=F3=EEczesnej polszczyzny", kt=F3ry wywo=EEa=EE to ca=EEe za=
  29443. mieszanie. Zobacz sam...
  29444. Mam komputer, na kt=F3ry wyda=EEem kup=EB ci=EB=FBko zarobionych pieni=EB=
  29445. dzy. Co najciekawsze, z w=EEasnej nieprzymuszonej woli. Kto=F4, nie przem=
  29446. y=F4lawszy zapewne tego do ko=EFca nazywa m=F3j komputer "gratem" i ka=FB=
  29447. e mi si=EB go "wystrzega=EA". W sumie w moich oczach jestem dla tego kogo=
  29448. =F4 (autora spornego fragmentu) kretynem niemal=FBe. Ja i ... Nie wiem za=
  29449. tem, czy poprawna jest Twoja interpretacja.
  29450.  
  29451. ***IMAO protestowac mozna wylacznie przeciwko atakowi na marke Amiga.
  29452. ***ZALOZE SIE, ze gdyby w "podreczniku" zamiast "Amiga" wstawiono
  29453. ***"Optimus", autorzy xiazki juz daaaawno przegraliby proces z napadana
  29454. ***przez nich firma...
  29455.  
  29456.  Tu si=EB zgadzam, chcia=EEbym jednak zauwa=FBy=EA, i=FB nie mo=FBemy lic=
  29457. zy=EA na to, =FBe jaka=F4 firma wytoczy proces autorom. Mo=FBemy za to li=
  29458. czy=EA na SIEBIE !!! Je=FBeli zatem nie poprzemy licznymi podpisami tego =
  29459. "protestu", tylko b=EBdziemy traci=EA czas na niepotrzebne utarczki, frag=
  29460. ment nie zostanie usuni=EBty, a miliony m=EEodych Polak=F3w nie b=EBd=E2 =
  29461. nawet bra=EEy pod uwag=EB mo=FBliwo=F4ci zakupu Amigi (ale=FB to g=F3rnol=
  29462. otnie zabrzmia=EEo). Kto chcia=EEby mie=EA takiego "grata".  =
  29463.  
  29464.  
  29465. Pozdrawiam
  29466.  
  29467. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
  29468. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
  29469. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
  29470. | STEAD is registered and trademark and bla, bla, bla... |
  29471. |         _                                              |
  29472. |        // STEad Stefan Koralewski   A-12oo/o3o/5o/32Mb |         =
  29473.  
  29474. |       // steAD Adam Tynenski        CDR/4.8Gb Hdd/SCSI |
  29475. | _ /\ // stead@kki.net.pl            M1538s/HDFlop/28.8 |
  29476. | \\\/// stead@lodz.pdi.net                              |
  29477. |  \\// PPC603e/250/40 cooming soon czyli budziet bystra |       =
  29478.  
  29479. |   ""                                                   |  =
  29480.  
  29481. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
  29482. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
  29483. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
  29484.  
  29485. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 24 01:39:55 1998
  29486. Received: from www.kki.net.pl (www.kki.net.pl [195.116.9.70]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA02251 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 01:21:58 +0100 (MET)
  29487. Received: from kki.net.pl (STEAD@pmone254.lodz.pdi.net [195.116.162.254])
  29488.     by www.kki.net.pl (8.8.7/8.8.7.ver6) with SMTP id BAA03014
  29489.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 01:21:27 +0100
  29490. From: Stefan Koralewski <stead@kki.net.pl>
  29491. Reply-To: stead@kki.net.pl
  29492. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  29493. Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 01:06:03 -0500
  29494. Message-ID: <yam7387.140.1748438104@kki.net.pl>
  29495. In-Reply-To: <19980323180330.19610@plukwa.pdi.net>
  29496. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.2 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  29497. Organization: STEAD
  29498. Subject: Re: Wstepniak w MA 3/98
  29499. MIME-Version: 1.0
  29500. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
  29501. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  29502.  
  29503. Dnia 23-Mar-98, Artur Pietruk napisa=EE:
  29504.  
  29505.  
  29506.  
  29507. ***Strona sklada sie w zasadzie z podkladu i tekstu, przy czym
  29508. ***chcialbym zauwazyc ze podklady sa MOJEGO autorstwa, pochodza z Plukwy,=
  29509.  i
  29510. ***wydaje mi sie ze byc moze kulturalnie byloby sie zapytac mnie czy
  29511. ***mozna uzyc grafiki wykonanej prze ze mnie gdzie indziej. Tymbardziej z=
  29512. e
  29513. ***strona ta nie zawiera zadnej innej grafiki poza ta wykonana prze ze mn=
  29514. ie.
  29515. ***A niestety wsrod autorow strony nie zauwazylem swojego nazwiska, coz, =
  29516. moze
  29517. ***to ja jestem pozbawiony kultury i nie powinienem nawet pisac tego list=
  29518. u.
  29519.  
  29520. Niniejszym przepraszam za fakt, i=FB podk=EEady u=FByte zosta=EEy bez Two=
  29521. jej zgody.
  29522. Je=FBeli masz co=F4 przeciwko temu, napisz. Podk=EEady zostan=E2 zdj=EBte=
  29523. =2E
  29524. Je=FBeli jednak zgadzasz si=EB na umieszczenie Twoich podk=EEad=F3w i zam=
  29525. ieszczenie Twojego nazwiska ?, nicka ?, w=F4r=F3d autor=F3w strony napisz=
  29526.  r=F3wnie=FB.
  29527. PS. Nie jeste=F4 pozbawiony kultury, dzi=EBki za uwag=EB, szkoda tylko, =FB=
  29528. e by=EEa ona tak k=E2=F4liwa. :(((
  29529.  
  29530. ***Po dwoch sygnaturkach wnoskuje ze ty jestes Autorem strony?
  29531.  
  29532. Dwie sygnaturki to b=EE=E2d. Przepraszam i za to. (r=F3wnie=FB admina) =
  29533.  
  29534.  
  29535. Pozdrawiam          STEad
  29536.  
  29537. ***
  29538. -- =
  29539.  
  29540. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
  29541. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
  29542. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
  29543. | STEAD is registered and trademark and bla, bla, bla... |
  29544. |         _                                              |
  29545. |        // STEad Stefan Koralewski   A-12oo/o3o/5o/32Mb |         =
  29546.  
  29547. |       // steAD Adam Tynenski        CDR/4.8Gb Hdd/SCSI |
  29548. | _ /\ // stead@kki.net.pl            M1538s/HDFlop/28.8 |
  29549. | \\\/// stead@lodz.pdi.net                              |
  29550. |  \\// PPC603e/250/40 cooming soon czyli budziet bystra |       =
  29551.  
  29552. |   ""                                                   |  =
  29553.  
  29554. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
  29555. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
  29556. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
  29557.  
  29558. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 24 05:39:41 1998
  29559. Received: from zskl.p.lodz.pl (root@zskl.p.lodz.pl [194.181.171.3]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id FAA04290 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 05:39:17 +0100 (MET)
  29560. Received: from cksr.ac.bialystok.pl (krashan@pppa44.bialystok.tpnet.pl [194.204.183.44]) by zskl.p.lodz.pl (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id FAA21360 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 05:37:59 +0100
  29561. From: Grzegorz Kraszewski <krashan@cksr.ac.bialystok.pl>
  29562. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  29563. Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 21:45:35 +0100
  29564. Message-ID: <yam7386.1798.2015187664@zskl.p.lodz.pl>
  29565. In-Reply-To: <199803230557.GAA16645@piast.pertus.com.pl>
  29566. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  29567. Organization: BlaBla
  29568. Subject: Re: Apollo 040/40
  29569. MIME-Version: 1.0
  29570. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
  29571. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  29572.  
  29573. Dnia 23-Mar-98, Arkadiusz Winiarek napisal:
  29574.  
  29575. > Mam kumpla, ktory ma Ami i nastepujacy problem:
  29576.  
  29577. > Odpala system ze swojej Ami (plyta Amigi w wersji 1D.4) i wszystko jest=
  29578.  cacy
  29579. > tylko, ze w pewnej chwili (zdRadzieckiej) ami przestaje reagowac na
  29580. cokolwiek
  29581. > - doslownie jakby ktos zrobil sobie freze. Ani mycha, ani nic, ale nie =
  29582. ma
  29583. > rebootu... =
  29584.  
  29585.  
  29586. Mia=B3em kiedy=B6 podobny problem ze swoim Blizzardem 1230-IV. Jak si=EA =
  29587. okaza=B3o
  29588. ca=B3a sztuka polega na odpowiednim wci=B6ni=EAciu karty na z=B3=B1cze. J=
  29589. ak widomo karta
  29590. si=EA grzeje, a plastik obudowy Amigi i sama karta maj=B1 inny wsp=F3=B3c=
  29591. zynnik
  29592. rozszerzalno=B6ci cieplnej, co powoduje minimalne przesuni=EAcia karty w =
  29593. czasie
  29594. pracy. Je=BFeli jeszcze z=B3=B1cze jest wyrobione to zwisy murowane. =
  29595.  
  29596.  
  29597. Inna przyczyna dotyczy karty w wie=BFy. Kart=EA trzeba jako=B6 zamocowa=E6=
  29598.  od ty=B3u,
  29599. tak, aby nie mia=B3a =BFadnej swobody ruchu. Inaczej - r=F3=BFnego rodzaj=
  29600. u zwisy.
  29601.  
  29602. A mo=BFe ch=B3odzenie si=EA nie wyrabia? Z tego co wiem procki Motoroli m=
  29603. aj=B1
  29604. zabezpieczenie termiczne - po przekroczeniu okre=B6lonej temperatury po p=
  29605. rostu
  29606. zatrzymuj=B1 si=EA. Wentylator karty Apollo 040/40 mojego kolegi wydaje p=
  29607. odczas
  29608. pracy takie odg=B3osy jakby chcia=B3 a nie m=F3g=B3, co prawda u niego ni=
  29609. c si=EA nie
  29610. wiesza.
  29611.  
  29612. Krashan
  29613.  
  29614. -- =
  29615.  
  29616. Grzegorz Kraszewski
  29617. on the scene Krashan/BlaBla
  29618. krashan@cksr.ac.bialystok.pl   to 1-Jul-1998
  29619. Amiga1200/030@50/10MB/HDD/CD/33.6kbps
  29620.  
  29621. BLABLA - IT MEANS SYSTEM FRIENDLY
  29622. -----------------------------------
  29623.  
  29624. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 24 07:09:41 1998
  29625. Received: from hermes.telbank.pl (vena.telbank.pl [195.136.250.210]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA04356 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 06:55:06 +0100 (MET)
  29626. Received: from bptnet.pl ([195.136.250.21]) by hermes.telbank.pl
  29627.           (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2 release (PO205-101c)
  29628.           ID# 164-43612U3000L100S0) with SMTP id AAA172
  29629.           for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 06:57:05 +0100
  29630. From: "Marek Szymanski" <szymanski@bptnet.pl>
  29631. Reply-To: tagor@wfmh.org.pl
  29632. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  29633. Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 22:42:01 +0100
  29634. Message-ID: <yam7386.56.2014823448@vena.telbank.pl>
  29635. In-Reply-To: <yam7386.2800.2014942160@arka.mtl.pl>
  29636. X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview3 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
  29637. Organization: WFMH
  29638. Subject: Re: PDFy
  29639. MIME-Version: 1.0
  29640. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  29641. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  29642.  
  29643. Cze=B6=E6 Filip,
  29644.  =
  29645.  
  29646. On 23-Mar-98, Filip Kopec wrote: =
  29647.  
  29648.  
  29649. > Czym to ugryzc na Amidze?  ...czy tylko pod SS z Acrobatem?
  29650. Na Aminecie:
  29651. pdftops.lha
  29652. pdftotext.lha
  29653. xpdf.lha
  29654.  
  29655. pozdrwiam.
  29656. -- =
  29657.  
  29658. Marek SZYMANSKI  Team *AMIGA*
  29659.     mailto:tagor@wfmh.org.pl=
  29660.  
  29661. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 24 08:09:41 1998
  29662. Received: from www.kki.net.pl (www.kki.net.pl [195.116.9.70]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA04436 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 07:56:03 +0100 (MET)
  29663. Received: from kki.net.pl (ppp23.zgora.tpnet.pl [195.116.244.23])
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  29665.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 07:55:36 +0100
  29666. From: Irek <irekm@kki.net.pl>
  29667. Reply-To: irekm@kki.net.pl
  29668. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  29669. Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 08:15:37 -0500
  29670. Message-ID: <yam7387.1896.3309552@kki.net.pl>
  29671. In-Reply-To: <199803230844.JAA09144@amiga.com.pl>
  29672. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.3a [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  29673. Subject: Re: Wielozadaniowona blasze
  29674. MIME-Version: 1.0
  29675. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  29676. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  29677.  
  29678. Dnia 23-Mar-98, Tomasz Kaczanowski napisa=EE:
  29679. >At 23:33 78-01-05 +0100, you wrote:
  29680. [...]
  29681. >uruchomisz np. Netscape, to bedziesz jedynie co rusz slyszal chrobotanie=
  29682.  po
  29683. >HDD,
  29684. >mimo, ze nawet Netscape nic robic nie bedzie ...
  29685.  
  29686. He, he, no w=B3a=B6nie, to jest to co mnie najbardziej wkurza w blaszce:
  29687. rze=BCbi sobie spokojnie twardzielem (co oczywi=B6cie spowalnia prac=EA :=
  29688. )
  29689. i nie wiadomo co tak naprawd=EA on w tym czasie robi...
  29690. Poza tym.... eee tam, szkoda s=B3=F3w na blach=EA...
  29691.  
  29692. Cze!
  29693.  
  29694. -- =
  29695.  
  29696. e-mail: irekm@friko.onet.pl      __
  29697. e-mail: irekm@kki.net.pl        // \   HTTP: on prepare
  29698. *Easy work?   - on Amiga*         \__          A1k2+850MB+4MB+CDx8+28800
  29699. *Best system? - on Amiga*            \
  29700. *BIG TROUBLE? - on PC...*         \_// NOWMAN - Amiga Fan 4ever !
  29701.  
  29702. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 24 08:39:41 1998
  29703. Received: from zeus.polsl.gliwice.pl (ololo@zeus.polsl.gliwice.pl [157.158.1.3]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA04462 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 08:22:19 +0100 (MET)
  29704. Received: from localhost (ololo@localhost) by zeus.polsl.gliwice.pl with SMTP (8.8.6/8.7.3) id IAA08716 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 08:21:07 +0100 (MET)
  29705. Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 08:21:07 +0100 (MET)
  29706. From: Aleksander Salwa <ololo@zeus.polsl.gliwice.pl>
  29707. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  29708. Subject: Linux na Ami
  29709. In-Reply-To: <199803231323.OAA31695@www.kki.net.pl>
  29710. Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.95.980324081114.6106B-100000@zeus.polsl.gliwice.pl>
  29711. MIME-Version: 1.0
  29712. Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
  29713.  
  29714.  
  29715.     Jest pewnie w okolicy paru uzytkownikow Linuxa (ktos nawet w sigu
  29716. ma 'Linux user', wiec sie nie wywinie od odpowiedzi ;)).
  29717.     Czy zna ktos SENSOWNA dystrybucje Linuxa na Amige ? O tym z MACD2
  29718. szkoda gadac (dobrze, ze chociaz rozpakowywaczki dali, a plik,
  29719. w ktorym miala byc, zgodnie z nazwa instrukcja, to nadaje sie do
  29720. Pajacykow Manna i Materny). Zreszta spartanska instalacje mnie nie
  29721. zniechecila, ale on po prostu jest skopany (jak juz ktos pisal na liscie).
  29722.     A moze da sie ta 'dystrybucje' naprawic malym kosztem, albo
  29723. zrobic errate do artykulu z MA 8/98 (jest tam co najmniej 1 mala usterka).
  29724.  
  29725.     Licze na pomoc, chcialbym dolaczyc do uzytkownikow jedynego
  29726. demokratycznego systemu :)))))
  29727.  
  29728. __________________________________________________________________________
  29729. Aleksander Salwa ----------------------------- ololo@zeus.polsl.gliwice.pl
  29730.  
  29731. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 24 10:09:41 1998
  29732. Received: from www.kozanow.kor.com.pl (www.kozanow.kor.com.pl [195.117.162.129]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA04583 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 09:40:36 +0100 (MET)
  29733. Received: from michal.kozanow.kor.com.pl (michal.kozanow.kor.com.pl [195.117.162.61])
  29734.     by www.kozanow.kor.com.pl (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA25715
  29735.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 09:40:12 +0100 (CET)
  29736. Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19980324083805.0099f670@www.kor.com.pl>
  29737. X-Sender: michal@www.kor.com.pl
  29738. X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32)
  29739. Mime-Version: 1.0
  29740. Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
  29741. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  29742. Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 09:38:05 +0100
  29743. To: amigapl@amiga.com.pl
  29744. From: "Michal Szota (mah0met)" <michal@www.kor.com.pl>
  29745. Subject: Re: Wstepniak w MA 3/98
  29746.  
  29747. >Polemik=EB na ten temat pozostawiam specjalistom. Rzeczywi=F4cie masz=
  29748.  racj=EB,
  29749. trudno jednak=20
  29750. >tworz=E2c tekst bardzo szybko nie pope=EEni=EA nijakich pomy=EEek.
  29751. >Przyznaj=EB si=EB zatem do faktu, i=FB niepotrzebnie u=FBy=EEem tego=
  29752.  w=EEa=F4nie sprz=EBtu=20
  29753. >(Soundblaster AVE 64) jako przyk=EEadu "=F4wiatowej normy". W=
  29754.  rzeczywisto=F4ci
  29755. nie jest to=20
  29756. >=FBaden standart, gdy=FB
  29757. >najcz=EB=F4ciej sprzedawane karty nazywaj=E2 si=EB SounBlasterPro=
  29758.  Compatible
  29759. Zacznijmy od tego, ze Amiga nie jest wyposazona w 'dzwiek', jak
  29760. to ujales na stronie, lecz w uklady ten dzwiek generujace.=20
  29761. Poniewaz nie czuje sie kompetentny dyskutowac na tematy "audio",
  29762. prosze o opinie kogos, kto zajmuje sie muzyka: Czy
  29763. Dzwiek generowany przez standardowa Amige dorownuje temu z karty
  29764. SB PRO ?
  29765.  
  29766. >Hmm, to natomiast jest Twoje zdanie na ten temat, widocznie nigdy nie
  29767. s=EEysza=EEe=F4 napa=F4ci
  29768. >na posiadaczy "grat=F3w". Tym niemniej Twoj=E2 uwag=EB przeka=FB=EB=
  29769.  autorowi
  29770. niniejszych s=EE=F3w -=20
  29771. >panu Markowi Pampuchowi.
  29772. A myslalem, ze MPS napisal WSTEP. Natomiast te slowa
  29773. "(...)fragment ten jest po prostu napascia na  mniejszosc,  ktora  stanowia
  29774. obecnie uzytkownicy Amig w Polsce(...)"
  29775. znajduja sie w dokumencie "protest.html"
  29776.  
  29777. >W rzeczy samej... W najrozmaitszy spos=F3b zinterpretowa=EA mo=FBna=
  29778.  fragmencik ze=20
  29779. "Wsp=F3=EEczesnej polszczyzny", kt=F3ry wywo=EEa=EE to ca=EEe zamieszanie.=
  29780.  Zobacz sam...
  29781. >Mam komputer, na kt=F3ry wyda=EEem kup=EB ci=EB=FBko zarobionych pieni=EBdz=
  29782. y. Co
  29783. najciekawsze, z=20
  29784. >w=EEasnej nieprzymuszonej woli. Kto=F4, nie przemy=F4lawszy zapewne tego do=
  29785.  ko=EFca
  29786. nazywa m=F3j=20
  29787. >komputer "gratem" i ka=FBe mi si=EB go "wystrzega=EA". W sumie w moich=
  29788.  oczach
  29789. jestem dla tego
  29790. >kogo=F4 (autora spornego fragmentu) kretynem niemal=FBe. Ja i ... Nie wiem
  29791. zatem, czy=20
  29792. >poprawna jest Twoja interpretacja.
  29793. Owszem, mi tez niezbt sie to podoba, ale Twoje slowa stanowia lekka
  29794. NADinterpretacje...=20
  29795.  
  29796. >Pozdrawiam
  29797. rowniez
  29798.  
  29799. >|        // STEad Stefan Koralewski   A-12oo/o3o/5o/32Mb |        =20
  29800.  
  29801. ps. Do cytowania uzywaj '>' i lam wiersz w okolicy 76 kolumny...
  29802. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ba.   .sdba.=20
  29803. $$$ Michal 'Mah0met' Szota $ michal@www.kor.com.pl $$$a a$$$$$$a=20
  29804. $$$$$$$           v i v a  A m i g a            $$$$$$$ $$$$$$$$
  29805. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$OO"   "O$$O"
  29806.  
  29807.  
  29808. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 24 10:39:41 1998
  29809. Received: from www.kki.net.pl (www.kki.net.pl [195.116.9.70]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA04744 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 10:39:12 +0100 (MET)
  29810. Received: from kki.net.pl (STEAD@pmone242.lodz.pdi.net [195.116.162.242])
  29811.     by www.kki.net.pl (8.8.7/8.8.7.ver6) with SMTP id KAA24142
  29812.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 10:38:31 +0100
  29813. From: Stefan Koralewski <stead@kki.net.pl>
  29814. Reply-To: stead@kki.net.pl
  29815. To: amigapl@amiga.com.pl
  29816. Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 10:36:16 -0500
  29817. Message-ID: <yam7387.804.1745898584@kki.net.pl>
  29818. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.2 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  29819. Organization: STEAD
  29820. Subject: Wstepniak w MA- raz jeszcze
  29821. MIME-Version: 1.0
  29822. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
  29823. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  29824.  
  29825. Chc=E2c uprzedzic wszelkie ewentualne krytyki strony pozwole sobie w skr=F3=
  29826. cie...
  29827. Przy tworzeniu tej strony nie by=EEo celem autor=F3w =EEamanie niczyich p=
  29828. raw autorskich, ani te=FB wypisywanie "g=EEupstewek". Wszelkie zastrze=FB=
  29829. enia (wcale nie musz=E2 by=EA one k=E2=F4liwe) zostan=E2 rozpatrzone.
  29830. Dzi=EBki za zwr=F3cenie uwagi na kilka istotnych niedoci=E2gni=EB=EA: Son=
  29831. dBlaster, prawa autorskie, b=EE=E2d przy korzystaniu IBrowse polegaj=E2cy=
  29832.  na nie wysy=EEaniu formularza. To poprawimy jeszcze dzi=F4 :)))
  29833. Celem tej strony jest zebranie podpis=F3w ludzi kt=F3rych wkurza fakt, =FB=
  29834. e Amiga nazywana jest "gratem"
  29835. itd. itp. =
  29836.  
  29837. PS. Chcia=EEbym Wam powiedzie=EA, =FBe po zasi=EBgni=EBciu opinii prawnik=
  29838. =F3w okaza=EEo si=EB, i=FB jest mo=FBliwe zmuszenie autor=F3w "Wsp=F3=EEc=
  29839. zesnej polszczyzny" do wymazania tego fragmentu.
  29840.  
  29841. W dalszym ci=E2gu prosz=EB o poparcie !!!            http://www.dom.vr.pl=
  29842. /~drchiry
  29843. Pozdrawiam                                    STEad
  29844.  
  29845. -- =
  29846.  
  29847. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
  29848. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
  29849. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
  29850. | STEAD is registered and trademark and bla, bla, bla... |
  29851. |         _                                              |
  29852. |        // STEad Stefan Koralewski   A-12oo/o3o/5o/32Mb |         =
  29853.  
  29854. |       // steAD Adam Tynenski        CDR/4.8Gb Hdd/SCSI |
  29855. | _ /\ // stead@kki.net.pl            M1538s/HDFlop/28.8 |
  29856. | \\\/// stead@lodz.pdi.net                              |
  29857. |  \\// PPC603e/250/40 cooming soon czyli budziet bystra |       =
  29858.  
  29859. |   ""                                                   |  =
  29860.  
  29861. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
  29862. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
  29863. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
  29864.  
  29865. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 24 11:09:42 1998
  29866. Received: from server.fiber.net.pl (server.fiber.net.pl [195.117.208.101]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA04766 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 10:40:14 +0100 (MET)
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  29869.           by server.fiber.net.pl (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with SMTP
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  29871.           Tue, 24 Mar 1998 10:39:40 +0100
  29872. From: Marcin Orlowski <carlos@wfmh.org.pl>
  29873. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  29874. Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 22:23:04 +0100
  29875. Message-ID: <yam7386.207.140749264@server.fiber.net.pl>
  29876. In-Reply-To: <yam7383.609.122327512@mail.union.org.pl>
  29877. X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 beta10 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
  29878. Organization: W.F.M.H.   (http://wfmh.org.pl)
  29879. Subject: Re: AmigaOS
  29880. MIME-Version: 1.0
  29881. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  29882. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  29883.  
  29884. Dnia 20-Mar-98, Artur Muszynski napisa=B3:
  29885.  
  29886. >>> system 4.0 ochrone pamieci juz ma miec. Czy ktos to potwierdzi? Bo je=
  29887. sli
  29888. >>> nie, to caly ten AmigaOS w dobie PPC i nowych pre/boxow wlasciwie NIE=
  29889.  MA
  29890. >>> SENSU!!!
  29891. >> Bzdura. Do tej pory jakos mia=B3 a teraz nagle przesta=B3? I PPC ma tu=
  29892.  
  29893. >> raczej niewiele do ochrony pami=E6ci.
  29894. > ppc.library jeszcze ochrony pami=EAci nie ma, ale jest na to przygotowa=
  29895. na.
  29896.  
  29897. R=F3wnie dobrze mo=BFesz sobie odpali=E6 Enforcera czy CyberGuarda i chro=
  29898. ni=E6
  29899. bez PPC. Ale nie o to tu chyba chodzi=B3o. PPC te=BF tu nic nie rozwi=B1z=
  29900. uje.
  29901.  
  29902. > gdyba=E6 co b=EAdzie w AmigaOS 4 (o ile w og=F3le b=EAdzie), tylko m=EA=
  29903. czy=E6 faz=EA, =BFeby
  29904. > wzi=EA=B3a si=EA=A0do roboty.
  29905.  
  29906. Faza oszcz=EAdza na pude=B3kach wi=EAc nie spodziewaj si=EA, =BFe zatrudn=
  29907. ienie si=EA =
  29908.  
  29909. u nich drastycznie zmieni. ;-(
  29910.  
  29911. -- =
  29912.  
  29913.  My software never has bugs. It just develops random features.
  29914.  
  29915.  Marcin                              http://wfmh.org.pl/~carlos/
  29916.                                        mailto:carlos@wfmh.org.pl
  29917.  
  29918.  
  29919. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 24 11:09:50 1998
  29920. Received: from rose.man.poznan.pl (root@rose.man.poznan.pl [150.254.173.3]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA04790 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 10:46:03 +0100 (MET)
  29921. Received: from buteo.man.bialystok.pl (buteo.man.bialystok.pl [194.181.132.1])
  29922.     by rose.man.poznan.pl (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA29632;
  29923.     Tue, 24 Mar 1998 10:43:07 +0100 (MET)
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  29925.     id KAA04445; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 10:39:07 +0100
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  29927.     id KAA21027; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 10:40:12 +0100
  29928. Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 10:40:12 +0100 (MET)
  29929. From: "Marcin Juszkiewicz (Szczepan/BlaBla)" <szczepan@cksr.ac.bialystok.pl>
  29930. X-Sender: szczepan@cksr
  29931. To: Lista dyskusyjna uzytkownikow komputerow AMIGA <AMIGA@plearn.edu.pl>,
  29932.         AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  29933. Subject: GoldED 4.7.2 a polskie locale.
  29934. Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.96.980324103715.20987A-100000@cksr>
  29935. MIME-Version: 1.0
  29936. Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
  29937.  
  29938.  
  29939.  Hi !
  29940.  
  29941.   Od jakiegos czasu uzywam GoldEda 4.7.2 (w aminecie 4.7.0 lezy) i mam
  29942. problem pewien. Otoz 4.7.0 bez problemu lykal polski catalog, zas 4.7.2
  29943. juz go nie lubi. Zanim zaczne dlubac w werjsach catalogu wole zapytac, czy
  29944. ktos moze to ominal (downgrade na 4.7.0 nie wchodzi w rachube).
  29945.  
  29946.  
  29947. ------
  29948.  Marcin Juszkiewicz (Szczepan/BlaBla)   *Team Amiga*
  29949.  szczepan@cksr.ac.bialystok.pl  http://cksr.ac.bialystok.pl/szczepan/
  29950.  A1200 BlizzIv 2+8MB RAM 425MB HDD
  29951.  Author of MultiView for OS 2.0+ -> Aminet:util/sys/2b_mv_os2_x.lha
  29952.  
  29953. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 24 11:09:56 1998
  29954. Received: from server.fiber.net.pl (server.fiber.net.pl [195.117.208.101]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA04758 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 10:40:07 +0100 (MET)
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  29959.           Tue, 24 Mar 1998 10:39:33 +0100
  29960. From: Admin <owner-amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  29961. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  29962. Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 19:50:20 +0100
  29963. Message-ID: <yam7386.1000.142566984@server.fiber.net.pl>
  29964. In-Reply-To: <199803231625.RAA15897@arka.mtl.pl>
  29965. X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 beta10 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
  29966. Organization: W.F.M.H.   (http://wfmh.org.pl)
  29967. Subject: Re: Odp: MUSASHI and AmigaOS
  29968. MIME-Version: 1.0
  29969. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  29970. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  29971.  
  29972. Dnia 21-Mar-98, Adam Zaparcinski napisa=B3:
  29973.  
  29974. >> Za to robi inne.
  29975. >> Panowie, ja bardzo prosz=EA o EOT. Listy Wam si=EA pomyli=B3y czy co?
  29976. > =
  29977.  
  29978. > Zgadzam si=EA. W zwi=B1zku z tym mam pomys=B3/pro=B6b=EA: Czy mo=BFna b=
  29979. y za=B3o=BFy=E6 list=EA
  29980. > pluj-na-pc,
  29981.  
  29982. Nie.
  29983.  
  29984. > na kt=F3rej takie tematy by=B3yby dozwolone? My=B6l=EA, =BFe by si=EA
  29985. > przyda=B3a. Chyba du=BFo os=F3b by si=EA zapisa=B3o na ni=B1. Ja napewn=
  29986. o
  29987.  
  29988. Jak nie macie na co marnowac czasu to polecam uwadze c.s.a.advocaty.
  29989. Tam duzo zbednych dyskusji sie toczy.
  29990.  
  29991. EOT
  29992. -- =
  29993.  
  29994.  Admin                           mailto:owner-amigapl@amiga.com.pl
  29995.  
  29996.  
  29997.  
  29998. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 24 11:10:07 1998
  29999. Received: from server.fiber.net.pl (server.fiber.net.pl [195.117.208.101]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA04762 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 10:40:11 +0100 (MET)
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  30004.           Tue, 24 Mar 1998 10:39:37 +0100
  30005. From: Marcin Orlowski <carlos@wfmh.org.pl>
  30006. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  30007. Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 22:13:44 +0100
  30008. Message-ID: <yam7386.2213.140749264@server.fiber.net.pl>
  30009. In-Reply-To: <yam7386.2041.515112@kki.net.pl>
  30010. X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 beta10 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
  30011. Organization: W.F.M.H.   (http://wfmh.org.pl)
  30012. Subject: Re: Pilne: Jak zastapic BeginIO()
  30013. MIME-Version: 1.0
  30014. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  30015. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  30016.  
  30017. Dnia 23-Mar-98, Artur Karpunin napisa=B3:
  30018.  
  30019. > On 21-Mar-98, Marcin Orlowski wrote:
  30020. >> Dnia 20-Mar-98, Wojciech Kocjan napisa=B3:
  30021. > =
  30022.  
  30023. >>> Nie, ale jak np. robi=EA aplikacje MUI z w=B3asnymi klasami i u=BFyj=EA=
  30024.  printf() w
  30025. >>> dispatcherze, to w=B3a=B6nie owy b=B3=B1d si=EA pojawia.
  30026. > =
  30027.  
  30028. > Nie stosowac printf !
  30029. > kprintf stosowac !
  30030.  
  30031. Najlepiej zas makro D(bug()) bodaj by =B6.p. Commodore. Polcam.
  30032.  
  30033. Hej,
  30034.  
  30035. PS: Widz=EA, =BFe sztuka poprawnego cytowania, tak aby autor si=EA z tre=B6=
  30036. ci=B1
  30037.     zagadza=B3 wci=B1=BF niekt=F3rych przerasta ;-(
  30038. -- =
  30039.  
  30040.  My software never has bugs. It just develops random features.
  30041.  
  30042.  Marcin                              http://wfmh.org.pl/~carlos/
  30043.                                        mailto:carlos@wfmh.org.pl
  30044.  
  30045.  
  30046. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 24 11:10:14 1998
  30047. Received: from server.fiber.net.pl (server.fiber.net.pl [195.117.208.101]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA04764 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 10:40:13 +0100 (MET)
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  30052.           Tue, 24 Mar 1998 10:39:38 +0100
  30053. From: Marcin Orlowski <carlos@wfmh.org.pl>
  30054. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  30055. Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 22:19:01 +0100
  30056. Message-ID: <yam7386.72.140749264@server.fiber.net.pl>
  30057. In-Reply-To: <01bd542f$ec624060$fdfefe01@mk>
  30058. X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 beta10 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
  30059. Organization: W.F.M.H.   (http://wfmh.org.pl)
  30060. Subject: Re: PPC do A1200
  30061. MIME-Version: 1.0
  30062. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  30063. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  30064.  
  30065. Dnia 20-Mar-98, Wojciech Kocjan napisa=B3:
  30066.  
  30067. > W Elboxie na przyk=B3ad mi powiedziano, =BFe Apolla (przynajmniej te z =
  30068. 040) b=EAd=B1
  30069. > uwzgl=EAdniane w upgradzie na PPC. I tak w=B3a=B6nie powinno by=E6. Bo =
  30070. je=B6li nie, to
  30071.  
  30072. Udajesz, czy naprawd=EA nie rozumiesz?
  30073.  
  30074. > dlaczego ja mia=B3bym w og=F3le owe PPC kupi=E6?
  30075.  
  30076. Chyba nie rozumiesz.
  30077.  
  30078. > W ko=F1cu z powodu niezbyt szybkiego jak na nasze czasy 603
  30079.  
  30080. Co za (nasze) czasy...
  30081.  
  30082. > traci=E6 8 baniek, kt=F3re da=B3em za owe Apollo?
  30083.  
  30084. Zaraz, zaraz. Czy=BFby=B6 zatem oczekiwa=B3 tabun=F3w ch=EAtnych, kt=F3rz=
  30085. y Ci b=EAd=B1
  30086. do tego dop=B3aca=E6?
  30087.  =
  30088.  
  30089. >>> bo ... trudno im b=EAdzie p=F3=BCniej sprzeda=E6 to co oddam ...
  30090. >> Co jako=B6 mnie wcale w przypadku Appolluff nie dziwi.
  30091. > Wypraszam sobie. Nie powiem, Blizzard jest zdecydowanie lepszy, ale Apo=
  30092. llo
  30093. > poza problemami z MapROMem nie robi=B1 wi=EAkszych problem=F3w. Przynaj=
  30094. mniej u
  30095. > mnie.
  30096.  
  30097. No i sam sobie odpowiedzia=B3e=B6. ;-P
  30098.  
  30099. -- =
  30100.  
  30101.  My software never has bugs. It just develops random features.
  30102.  
  30103.  Marcin                              http://wfmh.org.pl/~carlos/
  30104.                                        mailto:carlos@wfmh.org.pl
  30105.  
  30106.  
  30107. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 24 12:09:42 1998
  30108. Received: from piast.pertus.com.pl (root@piast.pertus.com.pl [195.116.191.6]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA05055 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 12:07:02 +0100 (MET)
  30109. Received: from jakec (ppp217.legnica.tpnet.pl [195.116.255.217])
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  30111.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 12:10:25 +0100
  30112. From: "Waldek Bulkowski" <jakec@pertus.com.pl>
  30113. To: "AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi" <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  30114. Subject: Odp: Amiga RC5 Team
  30115. Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 12:04:06 +0100
  30116. Message-ID: <01bd5714$90350c40$0100007f@localhost>
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  30124. X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3
  30125.  
  30126.  
  30127. >     Amiga RC5 Team, znajduje siê obecnie na siódmym miejscu. Przed nami
  30128. >znajduje siê na poz. 6. Team Win32 (Windows). Przy wsparciu Amigowców
  30129. >(przez du¿e A) jest du¿a szansa aby przegoniæ Windows-owców i utrzeæ im
  30130. >trochê nosa.
  30131. >
  30132. >     Je¶li kto¶ o tym projekcie jeszcze nie s³ysza³, to zachêcam do
  30133. >przeczytania stosownego artyku³u w ACS 2/98.
  30134.  
  30135. >     Marcin (Radmar) Wasilewski
  30136. >        radmar@box43.gnet.pl
  30137.  
  30138. Jesli Was interesuje ten projekt to koniecznie przeczytajcie artykul
  30139. w ACS. W kwietniowym Chipie tez jest tekst na ten temat, ale...
  30140. wywnioskowac z niego mozna, ze lamanie klucza dotyczy tylko
  30141. pecetow, ludzi do zabawy zacheca nagroda pieniezna, nie ma ani
  30142. slowa o kluczu 64-bitowym i wogole artykul jest tragiczny!!!
  30143.  
  30144. Waldek "Jakec" Bulkowski
  30145.           Nipson HQ
  30146.   jakec@pertus.com.pl
  30147. ***
  30148. Life is brutal & pelne pecetow :(((
  30149. ***
  30150.  
  30151. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 24 12:39:42 1998
  30152. Received: from rose.man.poznan.pl (rose.man.poznan.pl [150.254.173.3]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA05124 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 12:18:01 +0100 (MET)
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  30159.     id MAA26545; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 12:14:06 +0100
  30160. Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 12:14:06 +0100 (MET)
  30161. From: "Marcin Juszkiewicz (Szczepan/BlaBla)" <szczepan@cksr.ac.bialystok.pl>
  30162. X-Sender: szczepan@cksr
  30163. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  30164. Subject: Re: Linux na Ami
  30165. In-Reply-To: <Pine.HPP.3.95.980324081114.6106B-100000@zeus.polsl.gliwice.pl>
  30166. Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.96.980324121327.26479A-100000@cksr>
  30167. MIME-Version: 1.0
  30168. Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
  30169.  
  30170. On Tue, 24 Mar 1998, Aleksander Salwa wrote:
  30171.  
  30172. ->    Czy zna ktos SENSOWNA dystrybucje Linuxa na Amige ? O tym z MACD2
  30173.  
  30174.  LinuxPlus 3/97  WatchTower
  30175.  
  30176.  
  30177. ------
  30178.  Marcin Juszkiewicz (Szczepan/BlaBla)   *Team Amiga*
  30179.  szczepan@cksr.ac.bialystok.pl  http://cksr.ac.bialystok.pl/szczepan/
  30180.  A1200 BlizzIv 2+8MB RAM 425MB HDD
  30181.  Author of MultiView for OS 2.0+ -> Aminet:util/sys/2b_mv_os2_x.lha
  30182.  
  30183. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 24 12:39:50 1998
  30184. Received: from sun1000.pwr.wroc.pl (sauron@sun1000.pwr.wroc.pl [156.17.5.3]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA05120 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 12:17:08 +0100 (MET)
  30185. Received: from localhost (sauron@localhost) by sun1000.pwr.wroc.pl (8.8.7/8.8.5/ts-sun1000.971031+rchk1.20a+bspm1.13) with SMTP id MAA06875 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 12:15:50 +0100 (MET)
  30186. Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 12:15:50 +0100 (MET)
  30187. From: Adrian Siemieniak <sauron@pwr.wroc.pl>
  30188. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  30189. Subject: Re: Amiga RC5 Team
  30190. In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.3.95.980323214408.25067D-100000@student>
  30191. Message-ID: <Pine.SV4.3.96.980324121413.6725A-100000@sun1000.pwr.wroc.pl>
  30192. MIME-Version: 1.0
  30193. Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
  30194.  
  30195. > 
  30196. > Przy okazji pytanie - co to jest DES? Nowy klient rc5des liczy na dwa
  30197. > sposoby - rc5 i des. 10 blokow i to dluzszych niz przy rc5 zostaly w des
  30198. > przeliczone w ok. 2 minuty! Myslalem, ze to cos innego niz rc5, ale w
  30199. > readme pisze jak byk, ze proponuja, ze jesli zaczyna sie dopiero teraz
  30200. > zabawe, lepiej zaczac od razu od des, zamiast rc5. Moze ktos jest bardziej
  30201. > oswiecony, ode mnie?
  30202. > 
  30203.  
  30204. Podczas trwania "zawodow" w rc5 zrobione krotsza ich wersje z uzyciem
  30205. algorytmu DES (gdyz rc5 jest projektem, w najgorszym wypadku, do 2005
  30206. roku) by ludzie sie "rozerwali". Obecnie DES juz sie skonczyl !!!
  30207.  
  30208. Adrian (Sauron) Siemieniak    /~//_      .. Who can destroy The Thing,
  30209. sauron@pwr.wroc.pl           / //__\      controls The Thing ... (DUNE)
  30210. sauron@ic.com.pl             \/___ /       Amiga1240T/40Mhz/16MB/1.5GB
  30211. Admin on !Agnen! MUD           / //   Author: MPEGIntuition, MENTAT, Agnen
  30212. BTester QT,CyberQT/AVI,AVId    \//            Animations/Multimedia FAQ,
  30213. http://www.ic.com.pl/~sauron                  XAnim port,IntelIndeo.library
  30214.  
  30215.  
  30216. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 24 13:09:42 1998
  30217. Received: from zskl.p.lodz.pl (root@zskl.p.lodz.pl [194.181.171.3]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA05235 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 13:02:39 +0100 (MET)
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  30219. Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 13:01:19 +0100
  30220. Message-Id: <199803241201.NAA27231@zskl.p.lodz.pl>
  30221. X-Sender: kaczus@kki.net.pl
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  30225. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  30226. From: Tomasz Kaczanowski <kaczus@kki.net.pl>
  30227. Subject: Re: Wstepniak w MA 3/98
  30228.  
  30229. At 09:38 98-03-24 +0100, you wrote:
  30230. >Poniewaz nie czuje sie kompetentny dyskutowac na tematy "audio",
  30231. >prosze o opinie kogos, kto zajmuje sie muzyka: Czy
  30232. >Dzwiek generowany przez standardowa Amige dorownuje temu z karty
  30233. >SB PRO ?
  30234.  
  30235. Jesli chodzi o te standardowe SB (w cenie ok 50-150PLN), to nie dorownuja one
  30236. w zaden sposob ukladom amigowym. Nie wiem jak jest z tym PRO, ale
  30237. qmpel, ktory zajmuje sie muzyka, niestety na Blasze swojego czasu mial
  30238. SoundGalaxyPro - i przy kazdym pisanym modulku przychodzil do mnie go
  30239. przesluchac, bo nawet dobrej jakosci sample brzmialy nieciekawia, a juz te
  30240. ciut gorsze to po prostu tragedia ... . 
  30241.  
  30242. Kaczus of BlaBla
  30243.  
  30244. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 24 13:09:59 1998
  30245. Received: from zskl.p.lodz.pl (root@zskl.p.lodz.pl [194.181.171.3]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA05188 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 12:43:35 +0100 (MET)
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  30247. Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 12:42:15 +0100
  30248. Message-Id: <199803241142.MAA27115@zskl.p.lodz.pl>
  30249. X-Sender: kaczus@kki.net.pl
  30250. X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2
  30251. Mime-Version: 1.0
  30252. Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
  30253. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  30254. From: Tomasz Kaczanowski <kaczus@kki.net.pl>
  30255. Subject: Re: Bledy i CrossDos
  30256.  
  30257. At 15:44 98-03-23, you wrote:
  30258. >Jeszcze raz o CrossDos-ie.
  30259. >Ostatnio kopiowalem kilka plikow na dysk blaszakowy. Uzywalem na Ami 
  30260. >CrossDos-a 7.01 i na Ami wszystko bylo ok, Natomiast blaszak mial 
  30261. >dyze problemy z tym plikiem. Scandisk (windowsowy) informowal, ze 
  30262.  
  30263. przy CrossDosie7.x skopany jest mfm.device - nalezy wziasc ze starszej wersji,
  30264. powinno pomoc - u mnie to pomoglo ...
  30265.  
  30266. Kaczus
  30267.  
  30268. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 24 13:10:07 1998
  30269. Received: from www.kki.net.pl (www.kki.net.pl [195.116.9.70]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA05243 for <amigapl@wfmh.fiber.net.pl>; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 13:07:44 +0100 (MET)
  30270. Received: from WspSpolem (rmod5.kielce.mtl.pl [195.117.92.37])
  30271.     by www.kki.net.pl (8.8.7/8.8.7.ver6) with ESMTP id NAA22083
  30272.     for <amigapl@wfmh.man.szczecin.pl>; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 13:07:00 +0100
  30273. Message-Id: <199803241207.NAA22083@www.kki.net.pl>
  30274. From: "Marcin Soko³owski" <600user@kki.net.pl>
  30275. To: "AmigaPL-WFMH" <amigapl@wfmh.fiber.net.pl>
  30276. Subject: *** FastIPrefs i 24-bit ***
  30277. Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 13:10:32 +0100
  30278. X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
  30279. X-Priority: 3
  30280. X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161
  30281. MIME-Version: 1.0
  30282. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2
  30283. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  30284.  
  30285. Witam !
  30286.  
  30287. Mam takie pytanie: po instalacji oprogramowania do Merlina wybralem tryb =
  30288. wyswietlania przez karte - bezposrednio na monitor 15". No i ..... obraz =
  30289. byl wyswietlany w wybranej przeze mnie rozdzielczosci, ale na starym =
  30290. 1084S !
  30291. Droga redukcji i dedukcji doszedlem to wniosku, ze wine za taki stan =
  30292. rzeczy (niemoznosc wyswietlania WB poprzez karte GFX na monitorze SVGA) =
  30293. ponosi FastIPrefs w startupie.
  30294.  
  30295. Mam w z wiazku z tym pytania:
  30296. * do czegu sluzy ten programik ? Kiedys go sobie zainstalowalem, ale =
  30297. czym on sie rozni w dzialaniu od IPrefs ... juz zapomnialem :-}
  30298. * czy uzytkownicy CGX i P96 maja tez podobny problem ? Czy =
  30299. oprogramowanie jest juz tak dopracowane, ze sie programiki nie gryza ?
  30300.  
  30301. Pozdrawiam !
  30302. ----------------------
  30303. Marcin "XMS" Soko=B3owski Amiga FAN ForEver
  30304. http://www.complex.com.pl/~zbylu/xms/xms001.html
  30305. 600user@kki.net.pl
  30306. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 24 13:10:14 1998
  30307. Received: from www.kki.net.pl (www.kki.net.pl [195.116.9.70]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA05204 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 12:50:53 +0100 (MET)
  30308. Received: from WspSpolem (rmod14.kielce.mtl.pl [195.117.92.46])
  30309.     by www.kki.net.pl (8.8.7/8.8.7.ver6) with ESMTP id MAA18569
  30310.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 12:50:17 +0100
  30311. Message-Id: <199803241150.MAA18569@www.kki.net.pl>
  30312. From: "Marcin Soko³owski" <600user@kki.net.pl>
  30313. To: "AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi" <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  30314. Subject: Odp: *** Audio A-4000 ***
  30315. Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 08:27:42 +0100
  30316. X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
  30317. X-Priority: 3
  30318. X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161
  30319. MIME-Version: 1.0
  30320. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2
  30321. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  30322.  
  30323. Dnia 23-Mar-98, Marcin Soko=B3owski napisa=B3:
  30324. >No i jak toto podlaczyc? Ktos juz to probowal?
  30325. Tak. Miva (Marek Statkiewicz) zrobi=B3 to przy mnie ;) Zwyk=B3y kabelek =
  30326. od=20
  30327. cdromu u=BFy=B3 (chyba) ;)
  30328. ----------------------
  30329. No to ja akurat wiem :)))
  30330. Chodzi o to, ze CD-ROM ma 4 piny, kabelek z dwoch stron tez ma 4 piny, a =
  30331. plyta ma gniazdo 3-pinowe...
  30332. Przerobilem kabelek w ten sposob, ze 1pin jest kanal lewy, 2 pin- masa, =
  30333. 3-kanal prawy, 4 jest wolny. Co z tego bedzie - nie wiem... Moze komp mi =
  30334. wybuchnie ? Sprawdze dzisiaj w domu.
  30335. A jak ktos wie, jak sa rozplanowane sygnaly w tym zlaczu Amigowym (3 - =
  30336. pinowym), to prosze jeszcze dzisiaj o odpowiedz !
  30337. ----------------------
  30338. Marcin "XMS" Soko=B3owski Amiga FAN ForEver
  30339. http://www.complex.com.pl/~zbylu/xms/xms001.html
  30340. 600user@kki.net.pl
  30341.  
  30342.  
  30343. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 24 13:10:21 1998
  30344. Received: from www.kki.net.pl (www.kki.net.pl [195.116.9.70]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA05207 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 12:51:06 +0100 (MET)
  30345. Received: from WspSpolem (rmod14.kielce.mtl.pl [195.117.92.46])
  30346.     by www.kki.net.pl (8.8.7/8.8.7.ver6) with ESMTP id MAA18588
  30347.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 12:50:24 +0100
  30348. Message-Id: <199803241150.MAA18588@www.kki.net.pl>
  30349. From: "Marcin Soko³owski" <600user@kki.net.pl>
  30350. To: "AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi" <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  30351. Subject: Odp: Wstepniak w MA 3/98
  30352. Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 12:38:36 +0100
  30353. X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
  30354. X-Priority: 3
  30355. X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161
  30356. MIME-Version: 1.0
  30357. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
  30358. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  30359.  
  30360. ----------
  30361. > Od: Michal Szota (mah0met) <michal@www.kor.com.pl>
  30362. > Do: amigapl@amiga.com.pl
  30363. > Temat: Re: Wstepniak w MA 3/98
  30364. > Data: 23 marca 1998 20:28
  30365. >=20
  30366. > ZALOZE SIE, ze gdyby w "podreczniku" zamiast "Amiga" wstawiono
  30367. > "Optimus", autorzy xiazki juz daaaawno przegraliby proces z napadana
  30368. > przez nich firma...
  30369.  
  30370. Wlasnie..
  30371. Dziwie sie, czemu nikt nie poslal sygnalu do Amiga Technologies, Gateway =
  30372. 2000 albo kogo innego posiadajacego prawo do marki "AMIGA". Mysle, ze =
  30373. taka firme stac byloby moze nie tyle na proces, ale na pewno na =
  30374. oficjalna wypowiedz skierowana do wydawnictwa/ministerstwa.
  30375. ----------------------
  30376. Marcin "XMS" Soko=B3owski Amiga FAN ForEver
  30377. http://www.complex.com.pl/~zbylu/xms/xms001.html
  30378. 600user@kki.net.pl
  30379.  
  30380. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 24 13:39:42 1998
  30381. Received: from arcadia.tuniv.szczecin.pl (arcadia.tuniv.szczecin.pl [193.59.117.18]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA05279 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 13:10:41 +0100 (MET)
  30382. Received: (from maksiu@localhost)
  30383.     by arcadia.tuniv.szczecin.pl (8.8.7/8.8.7) id NAA03579
  30384.     for amigapl@amiga.com.pl; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 13:07:42 +0100
  30385. From: Mariusz Sikorski <maksiu@arcadia.tuniv.szczecin.pl>
  30386. Message-Id: <199803241207.NAA03579@arcadia.tuniv.szczecin.pl>
  30387. Subject: Re: Odp: Amiga RC5 Team
  30388. To: amigapl@amiga.com.pl
  30389. Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 13:07:41 +0100 (CET)
  30390. In-Reply-To: <01bd5714$90350c40$0100007f@localhost> from "Waldek Bulkowski" at Mar 24, 98 12:04:06 pm
  30391. Content-Type: text
  30392.  
  30393. czy moglby mi ktos podeslac klienta na pc ? odpale w pracy i niech
  30394. pc punktuje na konto amigi, prosilbym tez o krotka, aczkolwiek
  30395. w miare pelna instrukcje jak uruchomic....
  30396.  
  30397. e-mail:
  30398. maksiu@safona.tuniv.szczecin.pl
  30399.  
  30400. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 24 13:39:52 1998
  30401. Received: from opnt.optimus.wroc.pl (opnt.optimus.wroc.pl [195.117.195.3]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA05286 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 13:13:44 +0100 (MET)
  30402. Received: from opnt.optimus.wroc.pl (unverified [195.116.164.15]) by opnt.optimus.wroc.pl
  30403.  (EMWAC SMTPRS 0.83) with SMTP id <B0000080298@opnt.optimus.wroc.pl>;
  30404.  Tue, 24 Mar 1998 13:12:16 +0100
  30405. From: Maciej Matyka <maq@opnt.optimus.wroc.pl>
  30406. To: AmigaPL <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  30407. Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 20:56:30 +0100
  30408. Message-ID: <yam7289.1511.2014633048@opnt.optimus.wroc.pl>
  30409. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  30410. Subject: Re: Amiga_LightWave (fwd)
  30411. MIME-Version: 1.0
  30412. Content-Type: text/plain
  30413.  
  30414.  
  30415. A poczytajcie sobie...
  30416.  
  30417. ***
  30418.  
  30419. I think the the rumor mill has mis-stated what I told everyone at theshow.
  30420. I was very clear to say that I could not make any commitments for NewTek
  30421. other than we are looking very seriously at the PPC technology and that
  30422. I would personally try to gather some information to see if developing for
  30423. this was a possibility.
  30424.  
  30425. There is a 5.0 upgrade that was handed out to various users that had
  30426. Toaster boards at the show. This was done to show that we do care about
  30427. the users and we still wish to support that market.
  30428.  
  30429. As with any business venture there have to be realistic expectations for
  30430.  
  30431. ROI when considering any new product. Our commitments to the mouths that
  30432. we feed here on a weekly basis has to come first. I hope that having this
  30433. in written form helps clarify the statements that I made at the show.
  30434.  
  30435. As always we want to support the Amiga users. Our roots started there.
  30436. We are looking for ways to support Amiga users. I am an Amiga user, I was a
  30437.  
  30438. dealer and ran a repair center. Many of us here are users and always
  30439. will be.
  30440.  
  30441. Don Pence
  30442. Training Coordinator
  30443. NewTek, Inc.
  30444.  
  30445. ***
  30446.  
  30447. "The smile is BACK, because Amiga is BACK :)"
  30448.  
  30449. -- 
  30450.                                    "AMIGA COMPUTER STUDIO"
  30451. Maciej Matyka | MaQ of GENETIC | scene coding * progamming
  30452. Amiga 1200/030.50/10MB/HD340MB | maq@opnt.optimus.wroc.pl
  30453.  
  30454.  
  30455. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 24 15:09:47 1998
  30456. Received: from merkury.piotrkow.tpsa.pl (merkury.piotrkow.tpsa.pl [194.204.159.4]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA05523 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 14:50:02 +0100 (MET)
  30457. Received: from www.tpnet.pl (radmar@ppp212.gorzow.tpnet.pl [195.116.254.212])
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  30459.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 14:49:18 +0100 (MET)
  30460. From: "Marcin (radmar) Wasilewski" <radmar@box43.gnet.pl>
  30461. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  30462. Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 23:48:01 +0200
  30463. Message-ID: <yam7386.78.1746443024@www.tpnet.pl>
  30464. In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.3.95.980323214408.25067D-100000@student>
  30465. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  30466. Subject: Re: Amiga RC5 Team
  30467. MIME-Version: 1.0
  30468. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  30469. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  30470.  
  30471. Dnia 23-Mar-98, Grzegorz Junka napisal:
  30472.  
  30473. >Ten klient ktory podeslal Radmar nie chcial sie laczyc bezposrednio prze=
  30474. z
  30475. >siec i AmiTCP z serwerem i sciagac blokow. Tez z kolei sciagniety dzisia=
  30476. j
  30477. >ze stron rc5 na Amige, laczyl sie, sciagnal 10 blokow, przeliczyl i
  30478. >wyslal, po czym sie zawiesil ;-(. Na czym tu stawac w szranki, skoro
  30479. >wszystko sie sypie?
  30480.  
  30481.      Poprostu jest on czu=B3y na timeouty.
  30482.  
  30483.      Nast=EApnym zainteresowanym wys=B3a=B3em tak=BFe klienta rc5des, kt=F3=
  30484. ry u mnie
  30485. chodzi od dw=F3ch tygodni i jeszcze sam z siebie GURU nie wygenerowa=B3.
  30486.  
  30487.  
  30488. >Przy okazji pytanie - co to jest DES? Nowy klient rc5des liczy na dwa
  30489. >sposoby - rc5 i des. 10 blokow i to dluzszych niz przy rc5 zostaly w des=
  30490.  
  30491. >przeliczone w ok. 2 minuty! Myslalem, ze to cos innego niz rc5, ale w
  30492. >readme pisze jak byk, ze proponuja, ze jesli zaczyna sie dopiero teraz
  30493. >zabawe, lepiej zaczac od razu od des, zamiast rc5. Moze ktos jest bardzi=
  30494. ej
  30495. >oswiecony, ode mnie?
  30496.  
  30497.      Oczywi=B6cie jest to dobry klient jest to po=B3=B1czenie klienta DES=
  30498.  i RC5
  30499. w jednym programie.
  30500.      Co do des to jest on ju=BF z=B3amany i informacje na ten temat s=B1 =
  30501. ju=BF
  30502. nieaktualne.
  30503.  
  30504.      Gdy odpalasz klienta rc5des nale=BFy opr=F3cz tych czynno=B6ci, kt=F3=
  30505. re
  30506. opisa=B3em na plearnie trzeba ustawi=E6 preferowane obliczenia na RC5.
  30507. Oraz preferowan=B1 d=B3ugo=B6=E6 bloku na 28.
  30508.  
  30509.      Ten klient (rc5des) jest naprawd=EA niezawodny i prosz=EA Was nie
  30510. zniech=EAcajcie si=EA tak szybko po przebrni=EAciu przez pocz=B1tkowe "sc=
  30511. hody"
  30512. p=F3=BCniej wszystko naprawd=EA dzia=B3a OK.
  30513.  
  30514.  
  30515.  
  30516. --
  30517.      Marcin (Radmar) Wasilewski
  30518.         radmar@box43.gnet.pl
  30519.  
  30520. A1260T/18Mb./3.2G HDD/NEC 4x4 CD-ROM
  30521.  
  30522.  
  30523.  
  30524. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 24 17:39:44 1998
  30525. Received: from imagent.inet.com.pl (imagent.inet.com.pl [195.116.59.5]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA05942 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 17:31:39 +0100 (MET)
  30526. Received: from inet.com.pl ([195.116.59.76]) by imagent.inet.com.pl
  30527.           (post.office MTA v2.0 0813 ID# 0-11865) with SMTP id AAB321;
  30528.           Tue, 24 Mar 1998 17:33:57 +0100
  30529. From: info@AMIGA.ORG.PL
  30530. To: amiga@PLEARN.EDU.PL, amigapl@amiga.com.pl
  30531. Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 17:28:45 MET-1MEST,M3.5.
  30532. Message-ID: <yam7387.2292.139581848@195.116.59.5>
  30533. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  30534. Organization: W.F.M.H.
  30535. Subject: Amigowe konta internetowe
  30536. MIME-Version: 1.0
  30537. X-ISO-CONVERTED: Yam_ISO2 1.06 (17.11.97) (c) Silver Dream !
  30538. X-YAMISO-UPDATE: ftp://wfmh.org.pl/pub/yam_iso2/
  30539. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  30540. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  30541.  
  30542. Dla zainteresowanych, ju=BF nied=B3ugo ko=F1czy si=EA promocja AMIGOWYCH =
  30543. kont
  30544. internetowych.
  30545.  
  30546. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
  30547.  
  30548. Amigowe konta internetowe
  30549. Tak! Konta pocztowe prowadzone przez Amigowc=F3w dla Amigowc=F3w przy u=BF=
  30550. yciu
  30551. komputer=F3w Amiga!
  30552.  
  30553. Je=BFeli, tak jak my, jeste=B6 mi=B3o=B6nikiem (lub mi=B3o=B6niczk=B1) te=
  30554. go
  30555. niezwyk=B3ego systemu komputerowego jakim jest (i zawsze by=B3a) Amiga, t=
  30556. o
  30557. nie musisz si=EA ju=BF d=B3u=BFej zastanawia=E6 dlaczego tak=BFe swoim ad=
  30558. resem
  30559. Internetowym nie mo=BFesz tego pokaza=E6 wszystkim korespondentom.
  30560.  
  30561. Chcieliby=B6my aby Polska (.pl) Organizacja (.org) mi=B3o=B6nik=F3w kompu=
  30562. ter=F3w
  30563. Amiga (amiga) by=B3a kolejnym widocznym punktem na mapie obecno=B6ci Amig=
  30564. i
  30565. tak=BFe w Internecie - jako realnej alternatywy dla monopolistycznego,
  30566. zalanego sloganami reklamowymi =B6wiata komercji komputerowej, z kt=F3r=B1=
  30567.  
  30568. mamy do czynienia na ka=BFdym kroku...
  30569.  
  30570. Proponowane przez nas op=B3aty za prowadzenie kont s=B1 skalkulowane na
  30571. najni=BFszym poziomie i maj=B1 na celu jedynie umo=BFliwienie utrzymania =
  30572. i
  30573. ewentualnego rozwoju naszego, opartego wy=B3=B1cznie o komputery Amiga,
  30574. serwisu Internetowego dla Amigowc=F3w...
  30575.  
  30576. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
  30577.  
  30578. Wi=EAcej informacji pod:
  30579.  
  30580. http://amiga.org.pl/
  30581.  
  30582. lub
  30583.  
  30584. mailto:info@amiga.org.pl
  30585. --
  30586. info@amiga.org.pl=
  30587.  
  30588. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 24 19:09:43 1998
  30589. Received: from tryton.kaszub.top.pl (root@tryton.kaszub.top.pl [195.116.50.3]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA06183 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 18:46:35 +0100 (MET)
  30590. Received: from key.net.pl (cerber@modem2 [195.116.50.12])
  30591.     by tryton.kaszub.top.pl (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA07973
  30592.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 18:45:18 +0100
  30593. From: Piotr =?iso-8859-2?Q?Ka=BCmierczak?= <cerber@key.net.pl>
  30594. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  30595. Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 12:26:47 -0000
  30596. Message-ID: <yam7387.2383.124615248@195.116.50.3>
  30597. In-Reply-To: <Pine.HPP.3.95.980324081114.6106B-100000@zeus.polsl.gliwice.pl>
  30598. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  30599. Organization: Appendix
  30600. Subject: Re: Linux na Ami
  30601. MIME-Version: 1.0
  30602. X-ISO-CONVERTED: Yam_ISO2 1.06 (17.11.97) (c) Silver Dream !
  30603. X-YAMISO-UPDATE: ftp://wfmh.org.pl/pub/yam_iso2/
  30604. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  30605. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  30606.  
  30607. Dnia 24-Mar-98, Aleksander Salwa napisa=B3:
  30608.  
  30609. >zrobic errate do artykulu z MA 8/98 (jest tam co najmniej 1 mala usterka=
  30610. ).
  30611. Wot! Jasnowidz jaki=B6 czy c=F3=B6? :)
  30612.  
  30613. -- =
  30614.  
  30615. Kemo Sabay!
  30616.  
  30617. Piotr Kazmierczak          cERBEr of aPPENDIx                  ICQ: 46915=
  30618. 17
  30619. cerber@key.net.pl          http://www.key.net.pl/~cerber       Team AMIGA=
  30620.  
  30621. cerber@airi.plukwa.pdi.net Amiga Integrated Regsite Initiative FidoNet:
  30622. A3000T/030/CV643D/14MB     Radioactive BBS 058-6216107         2:481/60.3=
  30623.  
  30624.  
  30625. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 24 19:39:43 1998
  30626. Received: from arka.mtl.pl (root@mtl.pl [195.116.4.4]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA06211 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 19:14:01 +0100 (MET)
  30627. Received: from gie-da (rmod23.mtl.pl [195.116.164.25]) by arka.mtl.pl (8.8.7/8.6.12) with ESMTP id TAA25561 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 19:12:45 +0100 (MET)
  30628. Message-Id: <199803241812.TAA25561@arka.mtl.pl>
  30629. From: "Adam Zaparcinski" <gielda@mtl.pl>
  30630. To: "AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi" <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  30631. Subject: Odp: Odp: Odp: mUSASHI and AmigaOS
  30632. Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 18:03:17 +0100
  30633. X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
  30634. X-Priority: 3
  30635. X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155
  30636. MIME-Version: 1.0
  30637. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2
  30638. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
  30639.  
  30640. >Powiem, ze masz porzadny, uwazny styl programowania. Albo nie: powiem, ze
  30641. >Ci nie wierze. Bo nie wierze, ze mozna bez jednego zwisu napisac
  30642. >dzialajacy program majacy 5000 linii kodu.
  30643. IMHO mojemu stylowi pisania w C nic nie brakuje ale mogê siê myliæ (jak kto¶
  30644. widzia³ ¼ród³a Frothrana/A-Due to pó¼niej ka¿dy kod wydaje siê byæ napisany
  30645. porz±dnie). Po prostu ma³pujê styl przyk³adów MUI.
  30646.  
  30647. A co do "bez jednego zwisu" to nie ca³kiem tak jest. Mo¿e ¼le siê wyrazi³em -
  30648. program wiesza³ mi siê gdy co¶ pomyli³em (tzn nie za ka¿d± pomy³k± ale czasem)
  30649. ale nie mia³em du¿ych problemów z wykryciem tych b³êdów i ich poprawieniem.
  30650. Dlatego twierdzê, ¿e napisanie niewieszaj±cego siê programu jest nietrudne bo
  30651. IMHO wieszanie siê programu w trakcie jego tworzenia jest rzecz± normaln± i
  30652. niezale¿n± od platformy. Grunt, ¿eby te wszystkie b³êdy usun±æ i program nie
  30653. wiesza³ siê w wersji koñcowej.
  30654.  
  30655. >Pozwolisz, ze sie wytlumacze z tych 5000 linii. W rzeczywistosci chodzi mi
  30656. >nie tyle o dlugosc, co o uzycie zaawansowanych opcji jezyka, takich jak
  30657. >dynamiczne przydzielanie pamieci i arytmetyka na wskaznikach (pewnie
  30658. >niektorzy sie teraz usmiechaja widzac to "zaawansowanych" - ale tak na
  30659. >dobra sprawe to te elementy sa zrodlem wiekszosci problemow). Uzycie tego
  30660. >typu elementow na duza skale w programie majacym 1000 linii jest po prostu
  30661. >malo prawdopodobne, tym bardziej jezeli jest to program z GUI. 1000 linii
  30662. >to rowniez na tyle malo, ze program mozna w calosci "objac umyslem".
  30663. >Problemy zaczynaja sie, kiedy ma sie wiecej niz kilka-kilkanascie typow
  30664. >danych i funkcji - wtedy nie sposob juz o wszystkim pamietac. No, i
  30665. >jeszcze jak na dodatek czlowiek sie z jakichs przyczyn spieszy, bo go ktos
  30666. >tam pogania, to o bledy naprawde nietrudno.
  30667.  
  30668. Po¶piech jest rzecz± ludzk± i akurat AmigaOS nie jest temu winny (a od niego
  30669. zaczê³a siê dyskusja) natomiast zgadzam siê, ¿e du¿e projekty s± potencjalnym
  30670. ¼ród³em zwisów itp. Ale to te¿ jest problem programisty a nie systemu.
  30671.  
  30672. Pozdrofka
  30673.  
  30674. Sherwood
  30675. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 24 19:39:50 1998
  30676. Received: from friko2.onet.pl (root@friko2.onet.pl [194.204.191.6]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA06242 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 19:37:27 +0100 (MET)
  30677. Received: from friko2.onet.pl (Spidi@pppa139.wroclaw.tpnet.pl [195.205.240.145])
  30678.           by friko2.onet.pl (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP
  30679.       id TAA28416 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 19:30:34 +0100
  30680. From: Artur Gadawski <spidi@box43.gnet.pl>
  30681. Reply-To: spidi@box43.gnet.pl
  30682. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  30683. Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 19:34:09 +0100
  30684. Message-ID: <yam7387.471.5744992@friko2.onet.pl>
  30685. In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.3.95.980323222723.28331B-100000@student>
  30686. X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview3 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
  30687. Subject: Re: klient maila
  30688. MIME-Version: 1.0
  30689. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  30690. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  30691.  
  30692. Dnia 23-Marz-98, Grzegorz Junka napisa=B3:
  30693.  
  30694. > Czy tak jak jest ftpd, httpd, jest tez demon obslugi poczty elektronicz=
  30695. nej
  30696. > na Amige? Przypuszczam, ze tak, chociaz chyba troche inaczej sie go
  30697. > obsluguje niz tamte. Chcialem sie spytac, jakie to programy i skad je
  30698.  
  30699. S=B1 na Aminecie comm/tcp.
  30700. Jak nie znajdziesz zg=B3o=B6 si=EA do mnie.
  30701.  
  30702. Pozdrawiam
  30703. Spidi
  30704. -- =
  30705.  
  30706.  Artur *'Spidi'* Gadawski     *AMIGA* Fan
  30707.  mailto: spidi@box43.gnet.pl  spidi@friko2.onet.pl
  30708.  A1230T/40 600MB 10MB ZII CDx4 BEST 33k6 HP_DJ400L
  30709.  
  30710. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 24 20:09:43 1998
  30711. Received: from silter.silesia.top.pl (silter.silesia.top.pl [195.117.67.3]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA06310 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 19:59:30 +0100 (MET)
  30712. Received: from ppp-wct158.katowice.tpnet.pl (yoyo@ppp-wct158.katowice.tpnet.pl [194.204.181.158])
  30713.     by silter.silesia.top.pl (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA28552
  30714.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 19:58:30 +0100 (CET)
  30715. Date: 24 Mar 98 15:36:08 +0100
  30716. From: "Grzegorz Juraszek" <yoyo@silesia.top.pl>
  30717. Subject: Re: Odp: Wstepniak w MA 3/98
  30718. To: "AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi" <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  30719. In-Reply-To: <199803241150.MAA18588@www.kki.net.pl>
  30720. Message-ID: <1108.387T419T9360755@silesia.top.pl>
  30721. MIME-Version: 1.0
  30722. Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  30723. Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
  30724. X-Mailer: THOR 2.5 (Amiga;TCP/IP) *UNREGISTERED*
  30725.  
  30726. Hello Marcin Soko³owski, on 24-Mar-98    12:38:36 you wrote:
  30727. >----------
  30728. >> Od: Michal Szota (mah0met) <michal@www.kor.com.pl>
  30729. >>
  30730. >> ZALOZE SIE, ze gdyby w "podreczniku" zamiast "Amiga" wstawiono
  30731. >> "Optimus", autorzy xiazki juz daaaawno przegraliby proces z napadana
  30732. >> przez nich firma...
  30733.  
  30734. >Wlasnie..
  30735. >Dziwie sie, czemu nikt nie poslal sygnalu do Amiga Technologies, Gateway 2000
  30736. >albo kogo innego posiadajacego prawo do marki "AMIGA". Mysle, ze taka firme
  30737. >stac byloby moze nie tyle na proces, ale na pewno na oficjalna wypowiedz
  30738. >skierowana do wydawnictwa/ministerstwa.
  30739.  
  30740. A ja my¶lê, ¿e AT a ju¿ szczególnie G2000 maj± to serdecznie gdzie¶.
  30741. Oczywi¶cie nies³awna ksi±¿ka to szczególny przyk³ad rasizmu, ale to zapewne
  30742. nie koniec, a dopiero pocz±tek. Mo¿e powinni¶my siê cieszyæ, ¿e jeszcze
  30743. mo¿na siê publicznie przyznaæ do posiadania Amigi?
  30744.  
  30745. --
  30746.    Grzegorz Juraszek * Yoyo^Twilight * Amiga user * AIRI & ATO PL member
  30747.        mailto:yoyo@silesia.top.pl * http://www.silesia.top.pl/~yoyo
  30748. --
  30749.              "Let the truth be known though the heavens fall"
  30750.                     Agent Mulder * The X-Files * Redux
  30751.  
  30752. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 24 20:39:53 1998
  30753. Received: from www.kki.net.pl (www.kki.net.pl [195.116.9.70]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA06385 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 20:21:34 +0100 (MET)
  30754. Received: from kki.net.pl (Lolo^@ppp162.lublin.tpnet.pl [194.204.161.162])
  30755.     by www.kki.net.pl (8.8.7/8.8.7.ver6) with SMTP id UAA02127
  30756.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 20:20:52 +0100
  30757. From: Lolo <lolorad@kki.net.pl>
  30758. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  30759. Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 18:19:55 +0100
  30760. Message-ID: <yam7387.2761.2016713984@kki.net.pl>
  30761. In-Reply-To: <Pine.HPP.3.95.980324081114.6106B-100000@zeus.polsl.gliwice.pl>
  30762. X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview3 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
  30763. Subject: Re: Linux na Ami
  30764. MIME-Version: 1.0
  30765. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  30766. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  30767.  
  30768. On 24-Mar-98, Aleksander Salwa wrote:
  30769. > =
  30770.  
  30771. >     Jest pewnie w okolicy paru uzytkownikow Linuxa (ktos nawet w sigu
  30772. > ma 'Linux user', wiec sie nie wywinie od odpowiedzi ;)).
  30773. >     Czy zna ktos SENSOWNA dystrybucje Linuxa na Amige ? O tym z MACD2
  30774. > szkoda gadac (dobrze, ze chociaz rozpakowywaczki dali, a plik,
  30775. > w ktorym miala byc, zgodnie z nazwa instrukcja, to nadaje sie do
  30776. > Pajacykow Manna i Materny). Zreszta spartanska instalacje mnie nie
  30777. > zniechecila, ale on po prostu jest skopany (jak juz ktos pisal na lisci=
  30778. e).
  30779. >     A moze da sie ta 'dystrybucje' naprawic malym kosztem, albo
  30780. > zrobic errate do artykulu z MA 8/98 (jest tam co najmniej 1 mala usterk=
  30781. a).
  30782. > =
  30783.  
  30784. >     Licze na pomoc, chcialbym dolaczyc do uzytkownikow jedynego
  30785. > demokratycznego systemu :)))))
  30786.  
  30787. Je=BFeli nie masz Blizarda IV to mozesz u=BFywac bez problemu.
  30788. Instalowa=B3em z tej p=B3ytki na A4000 i dzia=B3a.
  30789. Je=BFeli jeste=B6 (nie)szcz=EA=B6liwym posiadaczem Blizza to musisz =B6ci=
  30790. =B1gn=B1=E6 plik
  30791. VMLINUX-2.0.33-AMIGA.TAR.GZ jakie=B6 620 Kb.
  30792. Co do opisu to w MA byly dwa, nie pami=EAtam nr, ale jeden opis byl dobry=
  30793. =2E
  30794. Trzeba tylko wzi=B1=B6=E6 poprawke na teksty w ramkach kt=F3re kto=B6 w m=
  30795. i=EAdzy
  30796. czasie sformatowal (najwi=EAcej problem=F3w sprawia=B3 plik fstab).
  30797. Jezeli nie mo=BFesz doj=B6=E6 sam to jest niez=B3y opis instalacji w FatA=
  30798. gnusie 20,
  30799. polecam.
  30800. -- =
  30801.  
  30802.                                    Radoslaw Flis - Lolo
  30803.                                   lolorad@friko.onet.pl
  30804.                                   lolorad@free.polbox.pl
  30805.                         A1200/030/FPU/50MHz/32Fast&2.1+0.5GB HD&CD
  30806.                                MultisyncColor/Sportster28k8
  30807.  
  30808. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 24 20:40:00 1998
  30809. Received: from www.kki.net.pl (www.kki.net.pl [195.116.9.70]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA06384 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 20:21:31 +0100 (MET)
  30810. Received: from kki.net.pl (Lolo^@ppp162.lublin.tpnet.pl [194.204.161.162])
  30811.     by www.kki.net.pl (8.8.7/8.8.7.ver6) with SMTP id UAA02109
  30812.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 20:20:48 +0100
  30813. From: Lolo <lolorad@friko.onet.pl>
  30814. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  30815. Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 17:44:05 +0100
  30816. Message-ID: <yam7387.253.2016713984@kki.net.pl>
  30817. In-Reply-To: <yam7386.207.1749955344@www.tpnet.pl>
  30818. X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview3 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
  30819. Subject: Re: WordWorth 7
  30820. MIME-Version: 1.0
  30821. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  30822. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  30823.  
  30824. On 23-Mar-98, Ryszard Sajdak wrote:
  30825.  
  30826. Jest wersja demo czy beta.
  30827. Jak si=EA ma do 6 niewiem, jestem zwolennikiem FW.
  30828.  
  30829. -- =
  30830.  
  30831.                                    Radoslaw Flis - Lolo
  30832.                                   lolorad@friko.onet.pl
  30833.                                   lolorad@free.polbox.pl
  30834.                         A1200/030/FPU/50MHz/32Fast&2.1+0.5GB HD&CD
  30835.                                MultisyncColor/Sportster28k8
  30836.  
  30837. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 24 21:09:43 1998
  30838. Received: from zskl.p.lodz.pl (root@zskl.p.lodz.pl [194.181.171.3]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA06470 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 20:47:58 +0100 (MET)
  30839. Received: from cksr.ac.bialystok.pl (krashan@pppa24.bialystok.tpnet.pl [194.204.183.24]) by zskl.p.lodz.pl (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA00132 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 20:46:33 +0100
  30840. From: Grzegorz Kraszewski <krashan@cksr.ac.bialystok.pl>
  30841. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  30842. Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 08:18:56 +0100
  30843. Message-ID: <yam7387.2807.2015774872@zskl.p.lodz.pl>
  30844. In-Reply-To: <yam7387.2972.1748438104@kki.net.pl>
  30845. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  30846. Organization: BlaBla
  30847. Subject: Re[2]: Wstepniak w MA 3/98
  30848. MIME-Version: 1.0
  30849. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  30850. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  30851.  
  30852. Dnia 24-Mar-98, Stefan Koralewski napisal:
  30853.  
  30854. > ***Nasz fanatyzm tego nie usprawiedliwia - przeciez slowa "podrecznika"=
  30855.  
  30856. > ***nie godza w AMIGOWCOW, lecz w sam komputer.
  30857.  
  30858. > W rzeczy samej... W najrozmaitszy spos=F3b zinterpretowa=E6 mo=BFna fra=
  30859. gmencik ze
  30860. > "Wsp=F3=B3czesnej polszczyzny", kt=F3ry wywo=B3a=B3 to ca=B3e zamieszan=
  30861. ie.
  30862.  
  30863. Uwa=BFam, =BFe cho=E6 po zanalizowaniu tego fragmentu dochodzi si=EA do w=
  30864. niosku, =BFe
  30865. faktycznie, te s=B3owa godz=B1 w Amig=EA, to jednak godz=B1 r=F3wnie=BF w=
  30866.  nas, amigowc=F3w.
  30867. Prosty przyk=B3ad. Je=BFeli kto=B6 opluwa Nar=F3d Polski, a dana osoba tw=
  30868. ierdzi, =BFe
  30869. jej to nie wzrusza, to czy taka osoba jest Polakiem? Je=BFeli wi=EAc kto=B6=
  30870.  opluwa
  30871. nasz=B1 Amig=EA, a kogo=B6 to nie wzrusza, to czy on jest w og=F3le amigo=
  30872. wcem? A mo=BFe
  30873. tylko u=BFytkownikiem Amigi (w przerwach mi=EAdzy u=BFywaniem peceta ;-)?=
  30874.  Troch=EA
  30875. ideowo=B6ci i emocjonalnego podej=B6cia do sprawy nie zaszkodzi - w ko=F1=
  30876. cu dlatego
  30877. nasza Amy si=EA trzyma, dzi=EAki zaanga=BFowanym w jej spraw=EA ludziom.
  30878.  
  30879. > Kto=B6, nie przemy=B6lawszy zapewne
  30880. > tego do ko=F1ca nazywa m=F3j komputer "gratem" i ka=BFe mi si=EA go "wy=
  30881. strzega=E6". W
  30882. > sumie w moich oczach jestem dla tego kogo=B6 (autora spornego fragmentu=
  30883. )
  30884. > kretynem niemal=BFe.
  30885.  
  30886. W=B3a=B6nie! I z takim zachowaniem nale=BFy walczy=E6! Nie by=B3oby probl=
  30887. emu gdyby tego
  30888. rodzaju teksty ukazywa=B3y si=EA na listach dyskusyjnych, czy w r=F3=BFne=
  30889. go rodzaju
  30890. zabawnych gazetach dla graczy. Ale w oficjalnym podr=EAczniku?!? A gdzie =
  30891. idea
  30892. pa=F1stwa neutralnego =B6wiatopogl=B1dowo? Skoro nale=BFy oddzieli=E6 od =
  30893. pa=F1stwa np.
  30894. katolicyzm, to tak samo nale=BFy oddzieli=E6 gatesizm!
  30895.  
  30896. > ***IMAO protestowac mozna wylacznie przeciwko atakowi na marke Amiga.
  30897. > ***ZALOZE SIE, ze gdyby w "podreczniku" zamiast "Amiga" wstawiono
  30898. > ***"Optimus", autorzy xiazki juz daaaawno przegraliby proces z napadana=
  30899.  
  30900. > ***przez nich firma...
  30901.  
  30902. A ja ZA=A3O=AF=CA SI=CA, =BFe autor powy=BFszych s=B3=F3w nie wytoczy tak=
  30903. iego procesu w
  30904. obronie marki Amiga. Wi=EAc skoro mu na Amy nie zale=BFy (patrz wy=BFej) =
  30905. to niech
  30906. przynajmniej nie przeszkadza innym...
  30907.  
  30908. I na zako=F1czenie. Pomijaj=B1c ju=BF fakt napa=B6ci w tym podr=EAczniku =
  30909. na Amig=EA *i*
  30910. *amigowc=F3w*, to podaje si=EA tam ludziom nieprawd=EA. Bo wymienione tam=
  30911.  cechy
  30912. Amigi s=B1 od g=F3ry do do=B3u k=B3amstwem. A prawda jest warto=B6ci=B1 a=
  30913. bsolutn=B1 o kt=F3r=B1
  30914. nale=BFy walczy=E6 zawsze i wsz=EAdzie.
  30915.  
  30916. Krashan
  30917.  
  30918. -- =
  30919.  
  30920. Grzegorz Kraszewski
  30921. on the scene Krashan/BlaBla
  30922. krashan@cksr.ac.bialystok.pl   to 1-Jul-1998
  30923. Amiga1200/030@50/10MB/HDD/CD/33.6kbps
  30924.  
  30925. BLABLA - IT MEANS SYSTEM FRIENDLY
  30926. -----------------------------------
  30927.  
  30928. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 24 21:39:43 1998
  30929. Received: from zt.walbrzych.tpsa.pl (zt.walbrzych.tpsa.pl [194.204.170.189]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA06582 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 21:29:38 +0100 (MET)
  30930. Received: from box43.gnet.pl (unverified [195.116.255.67]) by zt.walbrzych.tpsa.pl
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  30932.  Tue, 24 Mar 1998 21:32:49 +0000
  30933. From: Arkadiusz =?iso-8859-1?Q?Z=E2bek?= <arekz@box43.gnet.pl>
  30934. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  30935. Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 18:37:29 +0100
  30936. Message-ID: <yam7387.1460.17814744@zt.walbrzych.tpsa.pl>
  30937. In-Reply-To: <yam7386.72.140749264@server.fiber.net.pl>
  30938. X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview3 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
  30939. Subject: Re[2]: PPC do A1200
  30940. MIME-Version: 1.0
  30941. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  30942. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  30943.  
  30944. Hej
  30945.  
  30946. Marcin Or=B3owski kontra Wojciech Kocjan :) : =
  30947.  
  30948.  
  30949. >> W Elboxie na przyk=B3ad mi powiedziano, =BFe Apolla (przynajmniej te z=
  30950.  040)
  30951. b=EAd=B1
  30952. >> uwzgl=EAdniane w upgradzie na PPC. I tak w=B3a=B6nie powinno by=E6. Bo=
  30953.  je=B6li nie,
  30954. to
  30955. > =
  30956.  
  30957. > Udajesz, czy naprawd=EA nie rozumiesz?
  30958. > =
  30959.  
  30960. >> dlaczego ja mia=B3bym w og=F3le owe PPC kupi=E6?
  30961. > =
  30962.  
  30963. > Chyba nie rozumiesz.
  30964.  
  30965. A teraz ja: =
  30966.  
  30967.  
  30968. Wtr=B1ce swoje trzy grosze i powiem tylko =BFe firma Aplle dla wszyskich
  30969. posiadaczy sprawnych Mac=F3w z prockami 680X0 przygotowa=B3a mo=BFliwo=B6=
  30970. =E6 upgrade
  30971. do PowerMaca G3 (musz=EA si=EA zapyta=E6 czy moj=B1 Amig=EA z SS te=BF za=
  30972. mieni=B1 :)).
  30973.  
  30974. Ale to tylko tak na marginesie ;)
  30975.  
  30976. Pozdrawiam.
  30977.  
  30978. Arkadiusz Z=B1bek
  30979. arekz@box43.gnet.pl
  30980.  
  30981. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 24 22:09:44 1998
  30982. Received: from www.kki.net.pl (www.kki.net.pl [195.116.9.70]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA06638 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 21:44:50 +0100 (MET)
  30983. Received: from kki.net.pl (Amy@ppp217.gdynia.tpnet.pl [194.204.135.217])
  30984.     by www.kki.net.pl (8.8.7/8.8.7.ver6) with SMTP id VAA23577;
  30985.     Tue, 24 Mar 1998 21:43:49 +0100
  30986. From: Pawel Krak <phob@kki.net.pl>
  30987. To: amiga-plearn <AMIGA@plearn.edu.pl>
  30988. CC: amiga-wfmh <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  30989. Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 21:22:35 +0100
  30990. Message-ID: <yam7367.1793.18556344@kki.net.pl>
  30991. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  30992. Subject: 14" vs 15"
  30993. MIME-Version: 1.0
  30994. Content-Type: text/plain
  30995.  
  30996. Hi,
  30997.  
  30998. Przymierzam sie do nowego monitora. Zastanawiam sie jednak jaka
  30999. istotna roznica miedzy monitorem 14" a 15" uzasadnia wyzsza cene
  31000. tego drugiego. Mam na oku monitory Hyundai'a i jedyne roznice jakie
  31001. wychwycilem z ulotki z danymi technicznymi to (odp. 14" i 15"):
  31002. 1. przekatna widzialna 13,2" i 13,8"
  31003. 2. czestotliwosc pozioma 30-50Hz i 30-70Hz
  31004. 3. obszar widzialny [mm] 255 x 190 i 260 x 195
  31005. 4. video bandwidth 65Hz i 85Hz
  31006.  
  31007. Jest jeszcze kilka innych roznic, ale o znaczeniu jeszcze mniejszym
  31008. niz wymienione powyzej. Powiem szczerze, ze poza znaczna roznica
  31009. w videobadwidth pozostale parametry roznia sie minimalnie, a wiec
  31010. skad roznica w cenie? Domyslam sie, ze wszystkie parametry razem
  31011. nieco lepsze w 15" niz w 14" uzasadniaja wyzsza cene, ale ktory
  31012. z parametrow jest tak naprawde najistotniejszy (roznica w przekatnej
  31013. rzedu 1cm z haczykiem do mnie nie przemawia)? Monitor ma byc uzywany
  31014. z AGA, moze w przyszlosci z jakas karta GFX.
  31015. -- 
  31016. See ya!                                          Phobos
  31017. -----------------------------------------------------------
  31018. Pawel Krak * IRC:Phobos_ * mailto:phob@kki.net.pl
  31019. A1200/040/33MHz/18MB/420MB/1084S/CanonBJC240/BrightCom33600
  31020. -----------------------------------------------------------
  31021.  
  31022. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 24 22:39:43 1998
  31023. Received: from www.kozanow.kor.com.pl (www.kozanow.kor.com.pl [195.117.162.129]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA06740 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 22:13:36 +0100 (MET)
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  31026.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 22:13:04 +0100 (CET)
  31027. Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19980324211104.009ad48c@www.kor.com.pl>
  31028. X-Sender: michal@www.kor.com.pl
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  31030. Mime-Version: 1.0
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  31033. Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 22:11:04 +0100
  31034. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  31035. From: "Michal Szota (mah0met)" <michal@www.kor.com.pl>
  31036. Subject: Re: Re[2]: Wstepniak w MA 3/98
  31037.  
  31038. At 08:18 98-03-24 +0100, you wrote:
  31039. [dups]
  31040. >Uwa=BFam, =BFe cho=E6 po zanalizowaniu tego fragmentu dochodzi si=EA do=
  31041.  wniosku, =BFe
  31042. >faktycznie, te s=B3owa godz=B1 w Amig=EA, to jednak godz=B1 r=F3wnie=BF w=
  31043.  nas, amigowc=F3w.
  31044. >Prosty przyk=B3ad. Je=BFeli kto=B6 opluwa Nar=F3d Polski, a dana osoba=
  31045.  twierdzi, =BFe
  31046. >jej to nie wzrusza, to czy taka osoba jest Polakiem? Je=BFeli wi=EAc kto=B6=
  31047.  opluwa
  31048. A czy ja stwierdzilem, ze mnie to nie wzrusza? Nie lubie (nikt nie lubi) byc=
  31049. =20
  31050. sadzonym za slowa, ktorych nie wypowiedzialem...
  31051.  
  31052. >nasz=B1 Amig=EA, a kogo=B6 to nie wzrusza, to czy on jest w og=F3le=
  31053.  amigowcem? A mo=BFe
  31054. >tylko u=BFytkownikiem Amigi (w przerwach mi=EAdzy u=BFywaniem peceta ;-)?=
  31055.  Troch=EA
  31056. >ideowo=B6ci i emocjonalnego podej=B6cia do sprawy nie zaszkodzi - w ko=F1cu=
  31057.  dlatego
  31058. >nasza Amy si=EA trzyma, dzi=EAki zaanga=BFowanym w jej spraw=EA ludziom.
  31059. Oczywiscie, ze gdyby nie spolecznosc Amigowska, nasz komputer juz
  31060. daaawno odszedlby w zapomnienie. Mysle ze analogia z Narodem Polskim
  31061. jest nieadekwatna. Pomysl raczej o kierowcach samochodow Ford.=20
  31062. Jesli ktos napluje sie na Forda, to ten drugi bedzie urazony. Moga
  31063. sie poklocic. ALE nie mozna tresci OFICJALNEGO dokumentu argumentowac
  31064. atakiem na mniejszosc. Kocham Amige i nie chce czynic tego, co
  31065. w moich oczach przynosi jej szkode.
  31066.  
  31067. >> ***IMAO protestowac mozna wylacznie przeciwko atakowi na marke Amiga.
  31068. >> ***ZALOZE SIE, ze gdyby w "podreczniku" zamiast "Amiga" wstawiono
  31069. >> ***"Optimus", autorzy xiazki juz daaaawno przegraliby proces z napadana
  31070. >> ***przez nich firma...
  31071.  
  31072. >A ja ZA=A3O=AF=CA SI=CA, =BFe autor powy=BFszych s=B3=F3w nie wytoczy=
  31073.  takiego procesu w
  31074. >obronie marki Amiga. Wi=EAc skoro mu na Amy nie zale=BFy (patrz wy=BFej) to=
  31075.  niech
  31076. >przynajmniej nie przeszkadza innym...
  31077. Bo nie mam zadnych srodkow. Jestem niepelnoletni i maly wobec=20
  31078. swiata. Nie wyciagaj pochopnych wnioskow. Otoz na Amidze zalezy=20
  31079. mi BARDZO.
  31080.  
  31081. >[...]A prawda jest warto=B6ci=B1 absolutn=B1 o kt=F3r=B1
  31082. >nale=BFy walczy=E6 zawsze i wsz=EAdzie.
  31083. dokladnie... Stad moja riposta.
  31084. --
  31085. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ba.   .sdba.=20
  31086. $$$ Michal 'Mah0met' Szota $ michal@www.kor.com.pl $$$a a$$$$$$a=20
  31087. $$$$$$$           v i v a  A m i g a            $$$$$$$ $$$$$$$$
  31088. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$OO"   "O$$O"
  31089.  
  31090.  
  31091. From owner-amigapl  Wed Mar 25 00:09:44 1998
  31092. Received: from www.kki.net.pl (www.kki.net.pl [195.116.9.70]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA06932 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 23:57:53 +0100 (MET)
  31093. Received: from kki.net.pl (STEAD@pmone226.lodz.pdi.net [195.116.162.226])
  31094.     by www.kki.net.pl (8.8.7/8.8.7.ver6) with SMTP id XAA21135
  31095.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 23:57:09 +0100
  31096. From: Stefan Koralewski <stead@kki.net.pl>
  31097. Reply-To: stead@kki.net.pl
  31098. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  31099. Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 23:52:54 -0500
  31100. Message-ID: <yam7387.2685.1745898584@kki.net.pl>
  31101. In-Reply-To: <1108.387T419T9360755@silesia.top.pl>
  31102. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.2 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  31103. Organization: STEAD
  31104. Subject: Re: Odp: Wstepniak w MA 3/98
  31105. MIME-Version: 1.0
  31106. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
  31107. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  31108.  
  31109. Dnia 24-Mar-98, Grzegorz Juraszek napisa=EE:
  31110.  
  31111. ***A ja my=B6l=EA, =BFe AT a ju=BF szczeg=F3lnie G2000 maj=B1 to serdeczn=
  31112. ie gdzie=B6.
  31113. ***Oczywi=B6cie nies=B3awna ksi=B1=BFka to szczeg=F3lny przyk=B3ad rasizm=
  31114. u, ale to zapewne
  31115. ***nie koniec, a dopiero pocz=B1tek. Mo=BFe powinni=B6my si=EA cieszy=E6,=
  31116.  =BFe jeszcze
  31117. ***mo=BFna si=EA publicznie przyzna=E6 do posiadania Amigi?
  31118.  
  31119. I dlatego w=EEa=F4nie udowodnijmy sobie, =FBe potrafimy co=F4 razem zdzia=
  31120. =EEac :)))
  31121.  
  31122. Pozdrowienia            STEad
  31123.  =
  31124.  
  31125. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
  31126. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
  31127. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
  31128. | STEAD is registered and trademark and bla, bla, bla... |
  31129. |         _                                              |
  31130. |        // STEad Stefan Koralewski   A-12oo/o3o/5o/32Mb |         =
  31131.  
  31132. |       // steAD Adam Tynenski        CDR/4.8Gb Hdd/SCSI |
  31133. | _ /\ // stead@kki.net.pl            M1538s/HDFlop/28.8 |
  31134. | \\\/// stead@lodz.pdi.net                              |
  31135. |  \\// PPC603e/250/40 cooming soon czyli budziet bystra |       =
  31136.  
  31137. |   ""                                                   |  =
  31138.  
  31139. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
  31140. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
  31141. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
  31142.  
  31143. From owner-amigapl  Wed Mar 25 00:09:53 1998
  31144. Received: from www.kki.net.pl (www.kki.net.pl [195.116.9.70]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA06934 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 23:59:17 +0100 (MET)
  31145. Received: from kki.net.pl (STEAD@pmone226.lodz.pdi.net [195.116.162.226])
  31146.     by www.kki.net.pl (8.8.7/8.8.7.ver6) with SMTP id XAA21145
  31147.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 23:57:14 +0100
  31148. From: Stefan Koralewski <stead@kki.net.pl>
  31149. Reply-To: Stefan Koralewski <stead@kki.net.pl>
  31150. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  31151. Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 23:54:47 -0500
  31152. Message-ID: <yam7387.2356.1745898584@kki.net.pl>
  31153. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.2 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  31154. Organization: STEAD
  31155. Subject: Re: Wstepniak w MA 3/98
  31156. MIME-Version: 1.0
  31157. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
  31158. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  31159.  
  31160. Dnia 24-Mar-98, Tomasz Kaczanowski napisa=EE:
  31161.  
  31162. ***Jesli chodzi o te standardowe SB (w cenie ok 50-150PLN), to nie dorown=
  31163. uja one
  31164. ***w zaden sposob ukladom amigowym. =
  31165.  
  31166.  
  31167. THX Kaczus :))  =
  31168.  
  31169. Pozdrawiam          STEad
  31170. r=F3wniez i Tobie - Krashan :))) za poparcie =
  31171.  
  31172.  
  31173. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
  31174. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
  31175. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
  31176. | STEAD is registered and trademark and bla, bla, bla... |
  31177. |         _                                              |
  31178. |        // STEad Stefan Koralewski   A-12oo/o3o/5o/32Mb |         =
  31179.  
  31180. |       // steAD Adam Tynenski        CDR/4.8Gb Hdd/SCSI |
  31181. | _ /\ // stead@kki.net.pl            M1538s/HDFlop/28.8 |
  31182. | \\\/// stead@lodz.pdi.net                              |
  31183. |  \\// PPC603e/250/40 cooming soon czyli budziet bystra |       =
  31184.  
  31185. |   ""                                                   |  =
  31186.  
  31187. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
  31188. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
  31189. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
  31190.  
  31191. From owner-amigapl  Wed Mar 25 00:10:01 1998
  31192. Received: from www.kki.net.pl (www.kki.net.pl [195.116.9.70]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA06956 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 00:00:04 +0100 (MET)
  31193. Received: from kki.net.pl (STEAD@pmone226.lodz.pdi.net [195.116.162.226])
  31194.     by www.kki.net.pl (8.8.7/8.8.7.ver6) with SMTP id XAA21163
  31195.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 23:57:24 +0100
  31196. From: Stefan Koralewski <stead@kki.net.pl>
  31197. Reply-To: stead@kki.net.pl
  31198. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  31199. Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 23:49:25 -0500
  31200. Message-ID: <yam7387.1268.1745898584@kki.net.pl>
  31201. In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.19980324083805.0099f670@www.kor.com.pl>
  31202. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.2 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  31203. Organization: STEAD
  31204. Subject: Re: Wstepniak w MA 3/98
  31205. MIME-Version: 1.0
  31206. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
  31207. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  31208.  
  31209. Dnia 24-Mar-98, Michal Szota (mah0met) napisa=EE:
  31210.  
  31211. ***Zacznijmy od tego, ze Amiga nie jest wyposazona w 'dzwiek', jak
  31212. ***to ujales na stronie, lecz w uklady ten dzwiek generujace. =
  31213.  
  31214.  
  31215. To ju=FB s=E2 szczeg=F3=EEy, ale spox - poprawimy to :))) =
  31216.  
  31217.  
  31218. ***Poniewaz nie czuje sie kompetentny dyskutowac na tematy "audio",
  31219. ***prosze o opinie kogos, kto zajmuje sie muzyka: Czy
  31220. ***Dzwiek generowany przez standardowa Amige dorownuje temu z karty
  31221. ***SB PRO ?
  31222.  
  31223. Hmm. akurat je=F4li chodzi o ten model, to nie trzeba byc kompetentnym - =
  31224. wystarczy pos=EEuchac
  31225.  
  31226. ***A myslalem, ze MPS napisal WSTEP. Natomiast te slowa
  31227. ***"(...)fragment ten jest po prostu napascia na  mniejszosc,  ktora  sta=
  31228. nowia
  31229. ***obecnie uzytkownicy Amig w Polsce(...)"
  31230. ***znajduja sie w dokumencie "protest.html"
  31231.  
  31232. To fakt, lecz po dok=EEadnej analizie protest.html znajdziesz tam text =FB=
  31233. ywcem przeniesiony
  31234. ze Wst=EBpniaka w MA nr. 3/98. Po co 2 razy odkrywac Ameryk=EB ? =
  31235.  
  31236. S=EE=F3w "napa=F4=EA na mniejszo=F4c" u=FBy=EE MPS
  31237.  
  31238. ***Owszem, mi tez niezbt sie to podoba, ale Twoje slowa stanowia lekka
  31239. ***NADinterpretacje... =
  31240.  
  31241.  
  31242. Mnie natomiast podoba sie, =FBe znacznie stonowane zosta=EEy Twoje wypowi=
  31243. edzi :)))
  31244. Od "smieszne" do "nadinterpretacja" i od "k=EEamstewek" do "nie czuj=EB s=
  31245. i=EB kompetentny".
  31246. O ile=FB milsza sta=EEa si=EB ta polemika :)
  31247.  
  31248. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
  31249. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
  31250. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
  31251. | STEAD is registered and trademark and bla, bla, bla... |
  31252. |         _                                              |
  31253. |        // STEad Stefan Koralewski   A-12oo/o3o/5o/32Mb |         =
  31254.  
  31255. |       // steAD Adam Tynenski        CDR/4.8Gb Hdd/SCSI |
  31256. | _ /\ // stead@kki.net.pl            M1538s/HDFlop/28.8 |
  31257. | \\\/// stead@lodz.pdi.net                              |
  31258. |  \\// PPC603e/250/40 cooming soon czyli budziet bystra |       =
  31259.  
  31260. |   ""                                                   |  =
  31261.  
  31262. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
  31263. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
  31264. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
  31265.  
  31266. From owner-amigapl  Wed Mar 25 00:39:44 1998
  31267. Received: from imagent.inet.com.pl (imagent.inet.com.pl [195.116.59.5]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA07068 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 00:22:19 +0100 (MET)
  31268. Received: from box43.gnet.pl ([194.204.141.224]) by imagent.inet.com.pl
  31269.           (post.office MTA v2.0 0813 ID# 0-11865) with SMTP id AAA108;
  31270.           Wed, 25 Mar 1998 00:24:33 +0100
  31271. From: Piotr Czerniawski <piotrcz@box43.gnet.pl>
  31272. To: Amiga <amiga@plearn.edu.pl>
  31273. CC: AmigaPL <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  31274. Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 00:18:29 +0100
  31275. Message-ID: <yam7388.1464.2014838472@inet.com.pl>
  31276. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  31277. Subject: 4xIDE
  31278. MIME-Version: 1.0
  31279. X-ISO-CONVERTED: Yam_ISO2 1.06 (17.11.97) (c) Silver Dream !
  31280. X-YAMISO-UPDATE: ftp://wfmh.org.pl/pub/yam_iso2/
  31281. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  31282. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  31283.  
  31284. Witam
  31285.  
  31286. Po 4 godzinach walki z adapterem 4xIDE skapitulowa=B3em. Wypr=F3bowa=B3em=
  31287.  kilka
  31288. wersji IDEFix'a i zawsze to samo ZWIECHA PRZY STARCIE SYSTEMU. Dzia=B3a j=
  31289. edynie
  31290. gdy uruchamiam r=EAcznie LOADWB i ENDCLI. Wszelkie modyfikacje STARTUP-SE=
  31291. QUENCE
  31292. nic nie pomagaj=B1. Pr=F3bowa=B3em LoadIDE i IDEFix. Czego to jest wina ?=
  31293.  
  31294. Sprz=EAt:
  31295. 4xIDE Micronik
  31296. HD Conner i Samsung (wsp=F3=B3pracuj=B1 ze sob=B1 bez problem=F3w)
  31297. CD Toshiba
  31298.  
  31299. Pozdrawiam, Piotrek.
  31300.  
  31301. PS. Je=BFeli do drugiej ta=B6my nic nie jest pod=B3=B1czone, to wszystko =
  31302. dzia=B3a.
  31303.  
  31304. From owner-amigapl  Wed Mar 25 08:09:45 1998
  31305. Received: from www.kki.net.pl (www.kki.net.pl [195.116.9.70]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA09423 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 07:54:13 +0100 (MET)
  31306. Received: from WspSpolem (rmod16.kielce.mtl.pl [195.117.92.48])
  31307.     by www.kki.net.pl (8.8.7/8.8.7.ver6) with ESMTP id HAA29344
  31308.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 07:53:33 +0100
  31309. Message-Id: <199803250653.HAA29344@www.kki.net.pl>
  31310. From: "Marcin Soko³owski" <600user@kki.net.pl>
  31311. To: "AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi" <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  31312. Subject: Odp: 14" vs 15"
  31313. Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 07:48:38 +0100
  31314. X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
  31315. X-Priority: 3
  31316. X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161
  31317. MIME-Version: 1.0
  31318. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2
  31319. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  31320.  
  31321. Czesc !
  31322.  
  31323. Od przedwczoraj Mam Hyundaia 15" (DeluxScan costam, chyba 5870).
  31324. Oto moje spostrzezenia:
  31325.  
  31326. > Przymierzam sie do nowego monitora. Zastanawiam sie jednak jaka
  31327. > istotna roznica miedzy monitorem 14" a 15" uzasadnia wyzsza cene
  31328. > tego drugiego. Mam na oku monitory Hyundai'a i jedyne roznice jakie
  31329. > wychwycilem z ulotki z danymi technicznymi to (odp. 14" i 15"):
  31330. > 1. przekatna widzialna 13,2" i 13,8"
  31331.  
  31332. 15" =3D 13,7". Moj 1084S tez ma 13.7" :)
  31333.  
  31334. > 2. czestotliwosc pozioma 30-50Hz i 30-70Hz
  31335.  
  31336. Chyba kHz
  31337. Poza tym - nie 30 kHz, tylko 31 kHz.
  31338. Bylem troszke w szoku, bo ZADEN Amigowy tryb nie poszedl na tym =
  31339. monitorze, Pomogla dopiero karta GFX.
  31340.  
  31341. > 3. obszar widzialny [mm] 255 x 190 i 260 x 195
  31342. > 4. video bandwidth 65Hz i 85Hz
  31343.  
  31344. Na karcie Merlin mam 800x600 i 82 Hz.
  31345.  
  31346. > skad roznica w cenie? Domyslam sie, ze wszystkie parametry razem
  31347. > nieco lepsze w 15" niz w 14" uzasadniaja wyzsza cene, ale ktory
  31348. > z parametrow jest tak naprawde najistotniejszy (roznica w przekatnej
  31349. > rzedu 1cm z haczykiem do mnie nie przemawia)? Monitor ma byc uzywany
  31350. > z AGA, moze w przyszlosci z jakas karta GFX.
  31351.  
  31352. Nie znam 14", ale 15" ma na pewno OSD (On Screen Display), normy MPR-II, =
  31353. Power Management i ... cyfrowe sterowanie :)
  31354. Poza tym - 15" ma bardziej plaski kineskop. niz 14" (przynajmniej =
  31355. zazwyczaj) :)))
  31356. No i odradzam tego Hyundaia do AGAty - mi (jak wyzej wspomnialem) nie =
  31357. poszedl ZADEN tryb. Moze trzeba bylo MonEd'a, albo co - nie mialem czasu =
  31358. sprawdzic.
  31359.  
  31360. Pozdrawiam !
  31361. ----------------------
  31362. Marcin "XMS" Soko=B3owski Amiga FAN ForEver
  31363. http://www.complex.com.pl/~zbylu/xms/xms001.html
  31364. 600user@kki.net.pl
  31365.  
  31366. From owner-amigapl  Wed Mar 25 08:39:45 1998
  31367. Received: from www.kki.net.pl (www.kki.net.pl [195.116.9.70]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA09444 for <amigapl@wfmh.fiber.net.pl>; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 08:09:47 +0100 (MET)
  31368. Received: from WspSpolem (rmod16.kielce.mtl.pl [195.117.92.48])
  31369.     by www.kki.net.pl (8.8.7/8.8.7.ver6) with ESMTP id IAA31056
  31370.     for <amigapl@wfmh.man.szczecin.pl>; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 08:09:04 +0100
  31371. Message-Id: <199803250709.IAA31056@www.kki.net.pl>
  31372. From: "Marcin Soko³owski" <600user@kki.net.pl>
  31373. To: "AmigaPL-WFMH" <amigapl@wfmh.fiber.net.pl>
  31374. Subject: CD-ROM Audio przez AUDIO A-4000
  31375. Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 08:12:40 +0100
  31376. X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
  31377. X-Priority: 3
  31378. X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161
  31379. MIME-Version: 1.0
  31380. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2
  31381. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  31382.  
  31383. Witam !
  31384.  
  31385. Wczoraj udalo mi sie podlaczyc wyjscie Audio CD-ROMa do plyty A-4000. =
  31386. Nie wybuchlo nic... i dziala !!!
  31387. Wystarczy podlaczyc do CD-ROMa zalaczony kabelek (ja w swojej Toshibie =
  31388. mialem 4-pinowy kabelek z 3 podlaczynimi):
  31389. 1 2 3 4
  31390. 1 pin - lewy kanal Audio
  31391. 2 pin - masa
  31392. 3 pin - wolny
  31393. 4 pin - prawy kanal Audio.
  31394.  
  31395. Amiga ma 3 pinowe zlacze:
  31396. 1 pin - kanal lewy
  31397. 2 pin - masa
  31398. 3 pin - kanal prawy.
  31399.  
  31400. Tak wiec wystarczy tylko przerobic druga koncowke kabelka w ten sposob, =
  31401. aby przesunac sygnal z pinu 4 na pin 3. Sluzy do tego celu "cienkie i =
  31402. tepe" narzedzie - moze byc druga strona igly albo pecetowiec.
  31403.  
  31404. Pozdrawiam !
  31405. ----------------------
  31406. Marcin "XMS" Soko=B3owski Amiga FAN ForEver
  31407. http://www.complex.com.pl/~zbylu/xms/xms001.html
  31408. A4k/18/1.2/Merlin4/15"/CDx16, A600/020/882/10/120/KCS
  31409. 600user@kki.net.pl
  31410. From owner-amigapl  Wed Mar 25 09:09:45 1998
  31411. Received: from mx1.polbox.com (mx1.polbox.com [195.116.5.16]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA09527 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 08:56:18 +0100 (MET)
  31412. Received: from polbox.com (root@pppa37.kielce.tpnet.pl [195.116.245.37])
  31413.     by mx1.polbox.com (8.8.8/rev-A0) with SMTP id JAA23711
  31414.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 09:00:28 +0100
  31415. From: Jaroslaw Waligorski <jwalig@polbox.com>
  31416. Reply-To: jwalig@polbox.com
  31417. To: amigapl@amiga.com.pl
  31418. Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 08:55:24 +0100
  31419. Message-ID: <yam7388.1206.2014271544@smtp.polbox.com>
  31420. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  31421. Subject: re: Katalog =?iso-8859-2?Q?kt=F3ry?= i jest, i go nie ma... =?iso-8859-2?Q?Rozwi=E2zanie?=
  31422. MIME-Version: 1.0
  31423. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  31424. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  31425.  
  31426. > CZE=D4=CA
  31427.  
  31428. > W zwi=E2zku z dzia=EEaniem pewnego programu pad=EEa mi na twardym walid=
  31429. acja.
  31430. >.........
  31431. <ciach>
  31432.  
  31433. Witam ponownie !!!
  31434.  
  31435. Hmmmm.. pewnie gdyby rozwi=E2zanie tego problemu nast=E2pi=EEo w inny spo=
  31436. s=F3b
  31437. nie pisa=EE bym o tym, ale mimo =FBe up=EEyne=EEo sporo czasu napisze bo =
  31438. z
  31439. pewno=F4ci=E2 wyda Wam s=A1e to dziwne.
  31440. Operacja Check i Repair programem DiskSalv nie da=EEa =FBadnych rezultat=F3=
  31441. w.To
  31442. znaczy nie wy=F4wietla=EE on =FBadnych b=EE=EBd=F3w na parytcji.Niestety =
  31443. mia=EEem ju=FB na =
  31444.  
  31445. tej partycji niez=EEy bajzel (byla znacznie pofragmentowana) wiec potrakt=
  31446. owa=EEem =
  31447.  
  31448. j=E2 ReOrgiem z opcj=E2 SYMULACJI.Po tej operacji ReOrg wy=F4wietli=EE mi=
  31449.  requester, =
  31450.  
  31451. =FBe optymalizacja przebieg=EEa pomy=F4lnie.Tak wi=EBc wy=EE=E2czy=EEem s=
  31452. ymulacje i
  31453. heja.......
  31454. No i tu jest najlepsze: partycja zosta=EEa zoptymalizowana, i ma=EEo tego=
  31455.  ten =
  31456.  
  31457. katalog kt=F3ry przedtem nie da=EE si=EB skasowa=EA ani otworzy=EA zosta=EE=
  31458.  naprawiony,
  31459. tak =FBe by=EE normalnie widziany przez system i normalnie go skasowa=EEe=
  31460. m !!!
  31461. Przyznam =FBe spodziewa=EEem si=EB raczej k=EEopot=F3w ni=FB poprawy sytu=
  31462. acji....
  31463. Nie wspominaj=E2c o tym =FBe KOMPLETNIE nie rozumiem jak on to zrobi=EE..=
  31464. =2E.
  31465.  
  31466.                                                             \ JARUS /
  31467.                                                              \-=3D-=3D-=3D=
  31468. /
  31469.  
  31470.    *-----------------------------------------------------------------*
  31471.    |  Jaroslaw 'Jarus' Waligorski    |   email: jwalig@polbox.com    |
  31472.    *-----------------------------------------------------------------*
  31473.    | A1230/50 FPU 882/50 32MB RAM HD 850MB CDROM 8x USR SSter Flash  |
  31474.    *-----------------------------------------------------------------*=
  31475.  
  31476.  
  31477. ----- [ REKLAMA / ADVERTISEMENT ] ----------------------------------------
  31478. Lubisz film?! Wiec na co czekasz? Przylacz sie do FILMWEBU!
  31479. Pierwszy Polski Serwis Filmowy w Internecie  http://www.filmweb.pl
  31480. --------------------------------------------------------------------------
  31481.  
  31482. From owner-amigapl  Wed Mar 25 10:10:05 1998
  31483. Received: from zeus.polsl.gliwice.pl (ololo@zeus.polsl.gliwice.pl [157.158.1.3]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA09661 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 09:55:04 +0100 (MET)
  31484. Received: from localhost (ololo@localhost) by zeus.polsl.gliwice.pl with SMTP (8.8.6/8.7.3) id JAA28765 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 09:53:41 +0100 (MET)
  31485. Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 09:53:41 +0100 (MET)
  31486. From: Aleksander Salwa <ololo@zeus.polsl.gliwice.pl>
  31487. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  31488. Subject: Re: Linux na Ami
  31489. In-Reply-To: <yam7387.2761.2016713984@kki.net.pl>
  31490. Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.95.980325093241.4648C-100000@zeus.polsl.gliwice.pl>
  31491. MIME-Version: 1.0
  31492. Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
  31493. Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE
  31494.  
  31495.  
  31496. On Tue, 24 Mar 1998, Lolo wrote:
  31497.  
  31498. > Je=BFeli nie masz Blizarda IV to mozesz u=BFywac bez problemu.
  31499. > Instalowa=B3em z tej p=B3ytki na A4000 i dzia=B3a.
  31500. > Je=BFeli jeste=B6 (nie)szcz=EA=B6liwym posiadaczem Blizza to musisz =B6ci=
  31501. =B1gn=B1=E6 plik
  31502. > VMLINUX-2.0.33-AMIGA.TAR.GZ jakie=B6 620 Kb.
  31503. > Co do opisu to w MA byly dwa, nie pami=EAtam nr, ale jeden opis byl dobry=
  31504. =2E
  31505. > Trzeba tylko wzi=B1=B6=E6 poprawke na teksty w ramkach kt=F3re kto=B6 w m=
  31506. i=EAdzy
  31507. > czasie sformatowal (najwi=EAcej problem=F3w sprawia=B3 plik fstab).
  31508. > Jezeli nie mo=BFesz doj=B6=E6 sam to jest niez=B3y opis instalacji w FatA=
  31509. gnusie 20,
  31510. > polecam.
  31511.  
  31512. Instalowalem na 1200 z Apollo040.
  31513. Moze troche dokladniej:
  31514. Instalacja poszla, ale przy starcie Linuxa sypia sie komunikaty
  31515. bledow, chyba nie moze przelaczyc roota z readonly na read-write,
  31516. potem w trakcie pracy, wielokrotnie nie znajduje jakichs plikow/katalogow,
  31517. przy wychodzeniu z Pine wali sie cos z sygnalami.
  31518. Moze cos zle zainstalowalem. Moze bede mial wersje z LinuxPlus 3/97.
  31519.  
  31520. A co z Debian'em ?  Czy ktos to widzial, i czy Debian z L+ 3/98 jest tez
  31521. na 68k ?
  31522.  
  31523. P.S. Moge tez przewidziec tresci artykulow z innych numerow MA w=20
  31524. najblizszej pieciolatce ;))
  31525.  
  31526. __________________________________________________________________________
  31527. Aleksander Salwa ----------------------------- ololo@zeus.polsl.gliwice.pl
  31528.  
  31529.  
  31530. From owner-amigapl  Wed Mar 25 10:39:49 1998
  31531. Received: from zeus.polsl.gliwice.pl (ololo@zeus.polsl.gliwice.pl [157.158.1.3]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA09799 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 10:36:13 +0100 (MET)
  31532. Received: from localhost (ololo@localhost) by zeus.polsl.gliwice.pl with SMTP (8.8.6/8.7.3) id KAA11397 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 10:34:45 +0100 (MET)
  31533. Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 10:34:44 +0100 (MET)
  31534. From: Aleksander Salwa <ololo@zeus.polsl.gliwice.pl>
  31535. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  31536. Subject: HDToolBox po raz kolejny
  31537. In-Reply-To: <yam7388.1206.2014271544@smtp.polbox.com>
  31538. Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.95.980325101826.4648D-100000@zeus.polsl.gliwice.pl>
  31539. MIME-Version: 1.0
  31540. Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
  31541.  
  31542.  
  31543.     Ponazekajmy jeszcze raz... ;)
  31544.  
  31545. Kiedys mialem problemy z plikem walnietym przy wylaczeniu zasilania
  31546. podczas zapisu, wpisalem wiec klopotliwy blok do listy BadBlock'ow w
  31547. HDTB.
  31548. W miedzyczasie przepartycjonowywalem dysk, formatowalem ta partycje
  31549. (PELNY format) - zadnych problemow.  Pomyslalem wiec sobie, zeby ten
  31550. BadBlock usunac. I tu jest problem - usuwam z listy (wiecej ich nie mam!),
  31551. klikam 'Save Changes To Drive', i HDToolBox sie wiesza, dioda HDD sie
  31552. swieci...  Na razie zrezygnowalem, bo mi to nie przeszkadza.
  31553.  
  31554.     I w tym miejscu pytanie/propozycja:
  31555. Czy istnieje dobra alternatywa dla HDToolBoxa, a jesli nie, to
  31556. chyba ktos powinnien to w koncu napisac.
  31557. W tym powinnna byc mozliwosc przepartycjonowywania partycji z danymi.
  31558. (TO SIE DA ZROBIC !)
  31559.  
  31560. __________________________________________________________________________
  31561. Aleksander Salwa ----------------------------- ololo@zeus.polsl.gliwice.pl
  31562.  
  31563. From owner-amigapl  Wed Mar 25 11:40:03 1998
  31564. Received: from zskl.p.lodz.pl (root@zskl.p.lodz.pl [194.181.171.3]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA10112 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 11:29:26 +0100 (MET)
  31565. Received: from cksr.ac.bialystok.pl (krashan@pppa34.bialystok.tpnet.pl [194.204.183.34]) by zskl.p.lodz.pl (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA08178 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 11:27:53 +0100
  31566. From: Grzegorz Kraszewski <krashan@cksr.ac.bialystok.pl>
  31567. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  31568. Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 07:05:15 +0100
  31569. Message-ID: <yam7388.772.2016239472@zskl.p.lodz.pl>
  31570. In-Reply-To: <yam7367.1793.18556344@kki.net.pl>
  31571. X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview3 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
  31572. Organization: BlaBla
  31573. Subject: Re: 14" vs 15"
  31574. MIME-Version: 1.0
  31575. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  31576. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  31577.  
  31578. Dnia 04-Mar-98, Pawel Krak napisal:
  31579.  =
  31580.  
  31581. > Przymierzam sie do nowego monitora. Zastanawiam sie jednak jaka
  31582. > istotna roznica miedzy monitorem 14" a 15" uzasadnia wyzsza cene
  31583. > tego drugiego.
  31584.  
  31585. > Mam na oku monitory Hyundai'a i jedyne roznice jakie
  31586. > wychwycilem z ulotki z danymi technicznymi to (odp. 14" i 15"):
  31587. > 1. przekatna widzialna 13,2" i 13,8"
  31588. > 2. czestotliwosc pozioma 30-50Hz i 30-70Hz
  31589. > 3. obszar widzialny [mm] 255 x 190 i 260 x 195
  31590. > 4. video bandwidth 65Hz i 85Hz
  31591.  
  31592. > nieco lepsze w 15" niz w 14" uzasadniaja wyzsza cene, ale ktory
  31593. > z parametrow jest tak naprawde najistotniejszy (roznica w przekatnej
  31594. > rzedu 1cm z haczykiem do mnie nie przemawia)? Monitor ma byc uzywany
  31595. > z AGA, moze w przyszlosci z jakas karta GFX.
  31596.  
  31597. Je=BFeli oba monitory maj=B1 tzw. cyfrowe sterowanie i On Screen Display =
  31598. (OSD),
  31599. to przy ko=B6ciach AGA pozosta=B3e parametry nie robi=B1 r=F3=BFnicy. Cyf=
  31600. rowe
  31601. sterowanie wygl=B1da od strony u=BFytkownika w ten spos=F3b, =BFe wszystk=
  31602. ie
  31603. parametry (jasno=B6=E6, kontrast, geometria obrazu itd.) s=B1 ustawiane p=
  31604. oprzez
  31605. menu na ekranie i przyciski monitora. Poniewa=BF rozdzielczo=B6ci AGA-owe=
  31606.  maj=B1
  31607. nietypowe proporcje (5:4 zamiast 4:3) bardzo potrzebna jest regulacja
  31608. szeroko=B6ci i wysoko=B6ci obrazu, oraz jego przesuni=EAcia w pionie i po=
  31609. ziomie.
  31610. Monitory analogowe cz=EAsto nie maj=B1 kt=F3rej=B6 z tych regulacji, klin=
  31611. icznym
  31612. przyk=B3adem jest M1438 (BTW, mo=BFe kto=B6 chce si=EA ze mn=B1 zamieni=E6=
  31613.  na SVGA
  31614. 15"?), co skutkuje czarnymi pasami po bokach ekranu.
  31615.  
  31616. Je=BFeli natomiast przewidujesz kart=EA graficzn=B1, to jedynym wyborem j=
  31617. est
  31618. monitor 15" (chyba =BFe sta=E6 Ci=EA na siedemnastk=EA :-). Z parametr=F3=
  31619. w odchylania
  31620. i pasma przenoszenia toru wizji (video bandwidth) wynika bowiem maksymaln=
  31621. a
  31622. rozdzielczo=B6=E6 jak=B1 mo=BFesz uzyska=E6 na monitorze. Tu pozwol=EA so=
  31623. bie umie=B6ci=E6
  31624. obszerny cytat z listu na ten temat, jaki napisa=B3em do Tomasha/BlaBla:
  31625.  
  31626. ---- cut here ----
  31627.  
  31628. No, spoko s=B1 te parametry - je=BFeli rzeczywi=B6cie s=B1  spe=B3nione:-=
  31629. ).  A  co  do
  31630. wyci=B1gania 1280x1024, to  problem  jest  z=B3o=BFony.  Jednak  postaram=
  31631.   si=EA  go
  31632. wyja=B6ni=E6. Podstawowe  parametry  ka=BFdego  sygna=B3u  obrazu  to  ro=
  31633. zdzielczo=B6=E6
  31634. w pionie i poziomie oraz cz=EAstotliwo=B6=E6  odchylania  pionowego  i  p=
  31635. oziomego.
  31636. Z nich wynika te=BF wymagane  pasmo  przenoszenia  monitora.  Je=BFeli  z=
  31637. ostanie
  31638. przekroczona  dopuszczalna  dla  danego  monitora  cz=EAstotliwo=B6=E6  o=
  31639. dchylania
  31640. (wszystko jedno kt=F3rego) to monitor si=EA wy=B3=B1czy,  albo  spieprzy =
  31641.  (Tw=F3j  si=EA
  31642. wy=B3=B1czy), w ka=BFdym razie obrazu nie zobaczymy. Je=BFeli przekroczym=
  31643. y szeroko=B6=E6
  31644. pasma przenoszenia, to obraz b=EAdzie ale nieostry. A teraz  jak  to  wsz=
  31645. ystko
  31646. sobie policzy=E6?  Wzorki  s=B1  do=B6=E6  proste.  Za=B3=F3=BFmy,  =BFe =
  31647.  karta  daje  obraz
  31648. 1280x1024 i cz=EAstotliwo=B6=E6 odchylania pionowego (a wi=EAc i od=B6wie=
  31649. =BFania obrazu)
  31650. wynosi 70 Hz. Tak wi=EAc czas jednej ramki to:
  31651.  
  31652. czas ramki =3D 1 / f_pionowa =3D 1 / 70 =3D 14.286 ms
  31653.  
  31654. Jak mamy to, to mo=BFemy obliczy=E6 czas trwania jednej linii:
  31655.  
  31656. czas_linii =3D 0.9 * czas_ramki / ilo=B6=E6_linii =3D 0.9 * 14.286 ms / 1=
  31657. 024 =3D
  31658. 12.56 us (u udaje mikro)
  31659.  
  31660. Sk=B1d to 0.9? Po pierwsze rzeczywistych linii jest troch=EA wi=EAcej ni=BF=
  31661.  
  31662. czynnych, a poza tym dochodzi czas powrotu wi=B1zki elektron=F3w w lewy g=
  31663. =F3rny
  31664. r=F3g ekranu (tzw. wygaszanie pionowe). To powoduje skr=F3cenie czasu trw=
  31665. ania
  31666. linii. Teraz mo=BFemy obliczy=E6 przybli=BFon=B1 cz=EAstotliwo=B6=E6 odch=
  31667. ylania poziomego:
  31668.  
  31669. f_pozioma =3D 1 / czas_linii =3D 79.6 kHz
  31670.  
  31671. Oraz obliczamy wymagane pasmo przenoszenia.
  31672.  
  31673. czas_2pikseli =3D 1.8 * czas linii / ilo=B6=E6_pikseli_w_linii =3D 1.8 * =
  31674. 12.56
  31675. us / 1280 =3D 17.67 ns
  31676.  
  31677. 1.8 wynika z podobnych powod=F3w, jak 0.9 powy=BFej, bo po  bokach  obraz=
  31678. u  jest
  31679. troch=EA  nieaktywnych  pikseli  i  dochodzi  jeszcze   czas   powrotu   =
  31680. linii
  31681. (wygaszania poziomego).
  31682.  
  31683. Je=BFeli chcemy mie=E6 obraz jak =BFyleta, to:
  31684.  
  31685. pasmo =3D 5 / czas_2pikseli =3D 283 MHz
  31686.  
  31687. Obraz dobry to =
  31688.  
  31689.  
  31690. pasmo =3D 3 / czas_2pikseli =3D 170 MHz
  31691.  
  31692. Obraz "jeszcze do prze=BFycia" to
  31693.  
  31694. pasmo =3D 1 / czas_2pikseli =3D 57 MHz
  31695.  
  31696. Jak wida=E6 taki obraz jest raczej poza zasi=EAgiem Twojego monitora (nie=
  31697.  wyrobi
  31698. odchylanie  poziome).  Mo=BFesz  wy=B6wietli=E6  taki  obraz  w  trybie  =
  31699. interlace
  31700. (f_pionowa, f_pozioma i pasmo dzielisz przez  2),  je=BFeli  karta  daje =
  31701.  tak=B1
  31702. mo=BFliwo=B6=E6.  Albo  zmniejszasz  cz=EAstotliwo=B6=E6  od=B6wie=BFania=
  31703.   obrazu.   Podobne
  31704. obliczenia dla 1280x1024 50 Hz daj=B1 odchylanie poziome 56.9 kHz, a  wym=
  31705. agane
  31706. pasmo dla trzech przypadk=F3w 202, 121 i 40 MHz, wi=EAc obraz b=EAdzie ta=
  31707. ki sobie,
  31708. ale b=EAdzie. Jednak  do  pracy  wola=B3bym  tryb  1024x768  70Hz,  dla  =
  31709. kt=F3rego
  31710. f_pozioma =3D 59.7 kHz, a pasmo 170, 100 i 33 MHz,  a  wi=EAc  obraz  by=B3=
  31711. by  ju=BF
  31712. niczego sobie. Wracaj=B1c do Twojego 1280x1024 jest jeszcze  jeden  pow=F3=
  31713. d  dla
  31714. kt=F3rego ten tryb b=EAdzie nieostry. Przek=B1tna kineskopu ma  15  cali,=
  31715.   a  wi=EAc
  31716. tzw. rozmiar czynny to najwy=BFej 14 cali, czyli 355.6 mm. Poniewa=BF  ek=
  31717. ran  ma
  31718. proporcje 4:3  to czynna wysoko=B6=E6 wynosi  213.3  mm.  Jedna  linia  m=
  31719. a  wi=EAc
  31720. szeroko=B6=E6 0.21 mm, a plamka ma 0.28 mm. Linie nak=B3adaj=B1 si=EA wi=EA=
  31721. c  na  siebie
  31722. i ostro=B6=E6 siada.  Podobnie  w  poziomie  nak=B3adaj=B1  si=EA  s=B1si=
  31723. ednie  piksele.
  31724. Dlatego taki tryb mo=BFe by=E6 dobry do ogl=B1dania obrazk=F3w,  ale  na =
  31725.  pewno  nie
  31726. nadaje si=EA na ekran Workbencha, czy CED-a. Panuje  opinia,  =BFe  monit=
  31727. or  14"
  31728. pracuje do 800x600, 15" do 1024x768, 17" do 1280x1024, a 20"  do  1600x12=
  31729. 00.
  31730. I obliczenia to potwierdzaj=B1. Dlatego jak kupisz t=B1 CyberVision, to r=
  31731. adz=EA Ci
  31732. zrobi=E6 Workbench 1024x768, a osobi=B6cie wybra=B3bym 800x600, bo  lubi=EA=
  31733.   widzie=E6
  31734. ka=BFdy piksel.
  31735.  
  31736. ---- cut here ----
  31737.  
  31738. Korzystaj=B1c z powy=BFszych wzor=F3w sam mo=BFesz obliczy=E6 mo=BFliwo=B6=
  31739. ci obu
  31740. monitor=F3w, potrzebna Ci jest jeszcze maksymalna cz=EAstotliwo=B6=E6 odc=
  31741. hylania
  31742. pionowego obu monitor=F3w, cho=E6 ona przewa=BFnie jest wi=EAksza od 100 =
  31743. Hz i nie
  31744. stanowi ograniczenia. Kr=F3tko m=F3wi=B1c - do AGA 14" czy 15" w zasadzie=
  31745.  nie robi
  31746. r=F3=BFnicy, ale do karty graficznej - wy=B3=B1cznie 15".
  31747.  
  31748. I na zako=F1czenie - podane przez Ciebie cz=EAstotliwo=B6ci odchylania po=
  31749. ziomego
  31750. s=B1 w kHz, nie w Hz.
  31751.  
  31752. Krashan
  31753.  
  31754. -- =
  31755.  
  31756. Grzegorz Kraszewski
  31757. on the scene Krashan/BlaBla
  31758. krashan@cksr.ac.bialystok.pl   to 1-Jul-1998
  31759. Amiga1200/030@50/10MB/HDD/CD/33.6kbps
  31760.  
  31761. BLABLA - IT MEANS SYSTEM FRIENDLY
  31762. ---------------------------------
  31763.  
  31764. From owner-amigapl  Wed Mar 25 11:40:12 1998
  31765. Received: from zskl.p.lodz.pl (root@zskl.p.lodz.pl [194.181.171.3]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA10110 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 11:29:21 +0100 (MET)
  31766. Received: from cksr.ac.bialystok.pl (krashan@pppa34.bialystok.tpnet.pl [194.204.183.34]) by zskl.p.lodz.pl (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA08164 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 11:27:22 +0100
  31767. From: Grzegorz Kraszewski <krashan@cksr.ac.bialystok.pl>
  31768. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  31769. Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 07:32:20 +0100
  31770. Message-ID: <yam7388.1036.2016239472@zskl.p.lodz.pl>
  31771. X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview3 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
  31772. Organization: BlaBla
  31773. Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Nieszcz=EBsne?= Reply-To
  31774. MIME-Version: 1.0
  31775. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  31776. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  31777.  
  31778. W regulaminie naszej listy jest punkt o nie korzystaniu z pola Reply-To. =
  31779. W
  31780. zwi=B1zku z tym troch=EA pyta=F1:
  31781.  
  31782. 1. Co b=EAdzie je=BFeli zostawi=EA Reply-To ze swoim prywatnym adresem? P=
  31783. rzecie=BF
  31784. program zarz=B1dzaj=B1cy nasz=B1 list=B1 (bo chyba nikt nie robi tego r=EA=
  31785. cznie?)
  31786. m=F3g=B3by sam podmienia=E6 zawarto=B6=E6 tego pola na amigapl@amiga.com.=
  31787. pl.
  31788.  
  31789. 2. Czy jest jaki=B6 spos=F3b w YAM-ie 2 na to, =BFeby listy wysy=B3ane do=
  31790.  listy :-)
  31791. nie mia=B3y pola Reply-To, a wysy=B3ane gdzie indziej mia=B3y (to jednak =
  31792. u=B3atwia
  31793. =BFycie korespondentom)? Jedyne co mi przychodzi do g=B3owy, to skrypt Ar=
  31794. exxa
  31795. odpalany przed wysy=B3aniem i sprawdzaj=B1cy wszystkie listy z 'outgoing'=
  31796.  i
  31797. je=BFeli adres docelowy to 'amigapl@amiga.com.pl' wycinaj=B1cy pole Reply=
  31798. -To.
  31799.  
  31800. Krashan
  31801.  
  31802. -- =
  31803.  
  31804. Grzegorz Kraszewski
  31805. on the scene Krashan/BlaBla
  31806. krashan@cksr.ac.bialystok.pl   to 1-Jul-1998
  31807. Amiga1200/030@50/10MB/HDD/CD/33.6kbps
  31808.  
  31809. BLABLA - IT MEANS SYSTEM FRIENDLY
  31810. ---------------------------------
  31811.  
  31812. From owner-amigapl  Wed Mar 25 11:40:20 1998
  31813. Received: from zskl.p.lodz.pl (root@zskl.p.lodz.pl [194.181.171.3]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA10108 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 11:29:01 +0100 (MET)
  31814. Received: from cksr.ac.bialystok.pl (krashan@pppa34.bialystok.tpnet.pl [194.204.183.34]) by zskl.p.lodz.pl (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA08150 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 11:27:19 +0100
  31815. From: Grzegorz Kraszewski <krashan@cksr.ac.bialystok.pl>
  31816. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  31817. Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 07:50:23 +0100
  31818. Message-ID: <yam7388.1199.2016239472@zskl.p.lodz.pl>
  31819. X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview3 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
  31820. Organization: BlaBla
  31821. Subject: Paula vs SoundBlaster
  31822. MIME-Version: 1.0
  31823. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  31824. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  31825.  
  31826. Ten list jest w gruncie rzeczy kontynuacj=B1 serialu pt. Wst=EApniak 3/98=
  31827.  :-),
  31828. ale =BFe temat powinien m=F3wi=E6 co=B6 o tre=B6ci to go zmieni=B3em. Co =
  31829. prawda jestem
  31830. specjalist=B1 od elektroniki, a nie od muzyki, ale te dwie dziedziny maj=B1=
  31831.  
  31832. ostatnio sporo ze sob=B1 wsp=F3lnego.
  31833.  
  31834. Teroetycznie SB jest lepszy od Pauli, bo ma dwa kana=B3y 16-bitowe, a Pau=
  31835. la
  31836. cztery o=B6miobitowe. Ale kana=B3y Pauli mog=B1 by=E6 przekonfigurowane n=
  31837. a dwa
  31838. 14-bitowe. W porz=B1dku, ale to jeszcze ci=B1gle o dwa bity za ma=B3o. Je=
  31839. dnak tu
  31840. na korzy=B6=E6 Amigi przemawia kilka rzeczy:
  31841.  
  31842. - w tanich klonach SB montowane s=B1 kiepskie przetworniki D/A czyli z
  31843. nieliniow=B1 charakterystyk=B1 przetwarzania. Ba, dosz=B3y do mnie nawet =
  31844. pog=B3oski,
  31845. =BFe w tych najta=F1szych s=B1 montowane przetworniki 12-bitowe!
  31846.  
  31847. - AHI i wszystkie programy z niego korzystaj=B1ce maj=B1 mo=BFliwo=B6=E6 =
  31848. indywidualnej
  31849. kalibracji kana=B3=F3w 14-bitowych dla ka=BFdego egzemplarza Amigi (progr=
  31850. am
  31851. CyberSound). Kalibracja eliminuje nieliniowo=B6=E6 pzretwornika i wyr=F3w=
  31852. nuje
  31853. charakterystyki kana=B3=F3w. Po czym=B6 takim amigowy kana=B3 14-bitowy m=
  31854. o=BFe mie=E6 (i
  31855. z regu=B3y ma) lepsze charakterystyki ni=BF 16-bitowy SoundBlaster.
  31856.  
  31857. - algorytmy miksuj=B1ce kana=B3y s=B1 o wiele lepsze np. w AHI ni=BF w ka=
  31858. rtach na
  31859. pece (tylko najdro=BFsze karty na pece maj=B1 kana=B3y miksowane analogow=
  31860. o, w
  31861. popularnych miksowanie jest cyfrowe tak jak w AHI)
  31862.  
  31863. - no i na koniec odtwarzanie MIDI. Ma=B3o kt=F3ry z moich znajomych pecec=
  31864. iarzy
  31865. ma kart=EA wavetable, a MIDI na syntezie FM brzmi tak, =BFe GMPlay jest p=
  31866. o
  31867. prostu wielki. Je=BFeli jest co=B6 do MIDI co dzia=B3a z AHI i u=BFywa 16=
  31868. -bitowych
  31869. sampli, to nawet wavetable na pececie wysiada (BTW ewentualne informacje =
  31870. o
  31871. takim programie prosz=EA na priva), bo mo=BFemy sobie zsamplowa=E6 (je=BF=
  31872. eli jest
  31873. czym i z czego) w=B3asny zestaw brzmie=F1 GeneralMIDI.
  31874.  
  31875. Jak wida=E6 Paula w niczym nie ust=EApuje standardowej karcie pecetowej, =
  31876. a w
  31877. paru miejscach jest nawet bardziej elastyczna (to zawsze by=B3a, jest i b=
  31878. =EAdzie
  31879. si=B3a Amigi). =
  31880.  
  31881.  
  31882. Krashan
  31883.  
  31884. -- =
  31885.  
  31886. Grzegorz Kraszewski
  31887. on the scene Krashan/BlaBla
  31888. krashan@cksr.ac.bialystok.pl   to 1-Jul-1998
  31889. Amiga1200/030@50/10MB/HDD/CD/33.6kbps
  31890.  
  31891. BLABLA - IT MEANS SYSTEM FRIENDLY
  31892. ---------------------------------
  31893.  
  31894. From owner-amigapl  Wed Mar 25 11:40:33 1998
  31895. Received: from box43.gnet.pl (box43.gnet.pl [195.117.182.3]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA10025 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 11:10:19 +0100 (MET)
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  31898.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 11:08:58 +0100 (CET)
  31899. Message-Id: <l03110701b13e8557e054@[194.204.139.244]>
  31900. In-Reply-To: <yam7384.577.139356368@smtp.polbox.com>
  31901. Mime-Version: 1.0
  31902. Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
  31903. Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 11:10:30 +0100
  31904. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  31905. From: Marek Telecki <telly2@box43.gnet.pl>
  31906. Subject: UWAGA !!!
  31907.  
  31908. Witam!
  31909.  
  31910. W zwiazku z utrata mojego konta pocztowego: telly@box43.gnet.pl - bez
  31911. wiadomej mi i racjonalnej przyczyny zostalem zmuszony do zalozenia nowego
  31912. konta - na razie tez na tym samym serwerze:
  31913.  
  31914. telly2@box43.gnet.pl
  31915.  
  31916. Dlategotez prosze wszystkich, ktorzy w ciagu ostatnich trzech dni wysylali
  31917. jakakolwiek korespondencje na moje konto (telly@box43.gnet.pl) o powtorne
  31918. przeslanie na wyzej wymienione.
  31919. Przepraszam za klopot wszystkich listowiczow.
  31920.  
  31921. Nara
  31922.  
  31923. PS. Gdyby okazalo sie, ze wysylane listy nie dochodza do mnie, prosze
  31924. wysylac poczte na konta awaryjne:
  31925.  
  31926. telly@polbox.com
  31927.  
  31928. lub
  31929.  
  31930. sos@telbank.pl
  31931.  
  31932.  Marek Telecki / FST / S.O.S. Team *AMIGA*
  31933.    A1240T@40/34MB/CV3D/Z2/M1438/3GB/CD8x
  31934. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
  31935.    mailto: telly2@box43.gnet.pl
  31936.            sos@vena.telbank.pl
  31937.  
  31938.  
  31939.  
  31940. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  31941.    Dostep do internetu 56 Kbps Flex / 64 Kbps ISDN http://www.getin.pl
  31942.        Darmowe konta pocztowe w sieci GETIN. http://box43.gnet.pl
  31943.            GETIN Internet Service Provider http://www.gnet.pl
  31944. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  31945.  
  31946.  
  31947. From owner-amigapl  Wed Mar 25 12:09:46 1998
  31948. Received: from server.fiber.net.pl (server.fiber.net.pl [195.117.208.101]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA10247 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 11:52:51 +0100 (MET)
  31949. Received: from server.fiber.net.pl (async51.fiber.net.pl [195.117.208.51])
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  31951.           id AAH1317 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>;
  31952.           Wed, 25 Mar 1998 11:52:09 +0100
  31953. From: Marcin Orlowski <carlos@wfmh.org.pl>
  31954. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  31955. Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 10:52:37 +0100
  31956. Message-ID: <yam7388.1873.146723840@server.fiber.net.pl>
  31957. In-Reply-To: <yam7387.2807.2015774872@zskl.p.lodz.pl>
  31958. X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 beta10 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
  31959. Organization: W.F.M.H.   (http://wfmh.org.pl)
  31960. Subject: Re: Wstepniak w MA 3/98
  31961. MIME-Version: 1.0
  31962. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  31963. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  31964.  
  31965. Dnia 24-Mar-98, Grzegorz Kraszewski napisa=B3:
  31966.  
  31967. > I na zako=F1czenie. Pomijaj=B1c ju=BF fakt napa=B6ci w tym podr=EAcznik=
  31968. u na Amig=EA *i*
  31969. > *amigowc=F3w*, to podaje si=EA tam ludziom nieprawd=EA. Bo wymienione t=
  31970. am cechy
  31971. > Amigi s=B1 od g=F3ry do do=B3u k=B3amstwem. A prawda jest warto=B6ci=B1=
  31972.  absolutn=B1 o kt=F3r=B1
  31973. > nale=BFy walczy=E6 zawsze i wsz=EAdzie.
  31974.  
  31975. Szkoda, =BFe Petro T & friends nie maj=B1 ochoty np. da=E6 za to popali=E6=
  31976.  komu trzeba.
  31977. W ko=F1cu to ich psi interes.
  31978.  
  31979. -- =
  31980.  
  31981.  My software never has bugs. It just develops random features.
  31982.  
  31983.  Marcin                              http://wfmh.org.pl/~carlos/
  31984.                                        mailto:carlos@wfmh.org.pl
  31985.  
  31986.  
  31987. From owner-amigapl  Wed Mar 25 12:10:00 1998
  31988. Received: from server.fiber.net.pl (server.fiber.net.pl [195.117.208.101]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA10249 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 11:52:52 +0100 (MET)
  31989. Received: from server.fiber.net.pl (async51.fiber.net.pl [195.117.208.51])
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  31991.           id AAI1317 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>;
  31992.           Wed, 25 Mar 1998 11:52:11 +0100
  31993. From: Marcin Orlowski <carlos@wfmh.org.pl>
  31994. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  31995. Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 10:54:13 +0100
  31996. Message-ID: <yam7388.690.146723840@server.fiber.net.pl>
  31997. In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.3.96.980324103715.20987A-100000@cksr>
  31998. X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 beta10 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
  31999. Organization: W.F.M.H.   (http://wfmh.org.pl)
  32000. Subject: Re: GoldED 4.7.2 a polskie locale.
  32001. MIME-Version: 1.0
  32002. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  32003. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  32004.  
  32005. Dnia 24-Mar-98, Marcin Juszkiewicz (Szczepan/BlaBla) napisa=B3:
  32006.  
  32007. >  Od jakiegos czasu uzywam GoldEda 4.7.2 (w aminecie 4.7.0 lezy) i mam
  32008. > problem pewien. Otoz 4.7.0 bez problemu lykal polski catalog, zas 4.7.2=
  32009.  
  32010. > juz go nie lubi. Zanim zaczne dlubac w werjsach catalogu wole zapytac, =
  32011. czy
  32012. > ktos moze to ominal (downgrade na 4.7.0 nie wchodzi w rachube).
  32013.  
  32014. Nie pami=EAtam abym musial co=B6 drastycznie zmienia=E6 przy 4.7.2 ale m=F3=
  32015. j katalog
  32016. chodzi z t=B1 wersj=B1. Jak chcesz, to mog=EA podes=B3a=E6  zainteresowan=
  32017. ym (nie odpisujcie
  32018. tylko na list=EA!)
  32019.  
  32020. -- =
  32021.  
  32022.  My software never has bugs. It just develops random features.
  32023.  
  32024.  Marcin                              http://wfmh.org.pl/~carlos/
  32025.                                        mailto:carlos@wfmh.org.pl
  32026.  
  32027.  
  32028. From owner-amigapl  Wed Mar 25 12:39:45 1998
  32029. Received: from www.kki.net.pl (www.kki.net.pl [195.116.9.70]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA10334 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 12:23:05 +0100 (MET)
  32030. Received: from kki.net.pl (STEAD@pmone242.lodz.pdi.net [195.116.162.242])
  32031.     by www.kki.net.pl (8.8.7/8.8.7.ver6) with SMTP id MAA15381
  32032.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 12:22:02 +0100
  32033. From: Stefan Koralewski <stead@kki.net.pl>
  32034. Reply-To: stead@kki.net.pl
  32035. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  32036. Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 11:48:48 -0500
  32037. Message-ID: <yam7388.2394.1747444432@kki.net.pl>
  32038. In-Reply-To: <199803250653.HAA29344@www.kki.net.pl>
  32039. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.2 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  32040. Organization: STEAD
  32041. Subject: Re: Odp: 14" vs 15"
  32042. MIME-Version: 1.0
  32043. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
  32044. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  32045.  
  32046. Dnia 25-Mar-98, Marcin Soko=B3owski napisa=EE:
  32047.  
  32048.  
  32049. ***Chyba kHz
  32050. ***Poza tym - nie 30 kHz, tylko 31 kHz.
  32051. ***Bylem troszke w szoku, bo ZADEN Amigowy tryb nie poszedl na tym monito=
  32052. rze, Pomogla dopiero karta GFX.
  32053.  
  32054. ***No i odradzam tego Hyundaia do AGAty - mi (jak wyzej wspomnialem) nie =
  32055. poszedl ZADEN tryb. Moze trzeba bylo MonEd'a, albo co - nie mialem czasu =
  32056. sprawdzic.
  32057.  
  32058. Panowie, nie dajmy si=EB zwariowa=EA. Faktem jest, =FBe ani standartowy M=
  32059. ultiscan, ani DblPal nie wy=F4wietlaj=E2 poprawnie obrazu na monitorach S=
  32060. VGA, lecz wystarczy ma=EEa przer=F3bka dowolnym programikiem typu MonED, =
  32061. MonSpec czy te=FB MonitorKiller i po krzyku.
  32062. Ka=FBdy systemowy program korzysta wtedy z podrasowanego trybu AGAty i be=
  32063. z problem=F3w
  32064. dzia=EEa z ka=FBdym monitorem SVGA !!!
  32065. Ja, dla przyk=EEadu pod=EEaczy=EEem do AGA nastepuj=E2ce monitory (nie pa=
  32066. mi=EBtam wszystkich, sorki)
  32067. Daewoo 14, Daewoo 15, Hyundai 14, Hyundai 15, Apple 17, Bridge 14, Mitsui=
  32068.  14, Sony 14, Sony 15, LG 14 i kilka innych r=F3wnie=FB mono. =DBaden z n=
  32069. ich nie sprawia=EE najmniejszych problem=F3w z AGA !!!
  32070. (oczywi=F4cie po podrasowaniu sterownika) Nie widz=EB wi=EBc powodu, aby =
  32071. odradzac zakup monitora SVGA do Amigi. Wr=EBcz przeciwnie:
  32072. Panowie kupujcie monitory SVGA do Amig !!! dopiero wtedy system Amigi nab=
  32073. iera powa=FBnego wygl=E2du
  32074. Sterownikami slu=FBe, w razie gdyby ktos nie poradzi=EE sobie z tak prost=
  32075. a spraw=E2, jak=E2 jest pod=EE=E2czenia SVGA do Amigi
  32076.  
  32077. Pozdrawiam             STEad
  32078.  
  32079. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
  32080. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
  32081. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
  32082. | STEAD is registered and trademark and bla, bla, bla... |
  32083. |         _                                              |
  32084. |        // STEad Stefan Koralewski   A-12oo/o3o/5o/32Mb |         =
  32085.  
  32086. |       // steAD Adam Tynenski        CDR/4.8Gb Hdd/SCSI |
  32087. | _ /\ // stead@kki.net.pl            M1538s/HDFlop/28.8 |
  32088. | \\\/// stead@lodz.pdi.net                              |
  32089. |  \\// PPC603e/250/40 cooming soon czyli budziet bystra |       =
  32090.  
  32091. |   ""                                                   |  =
  32092.  
  32093. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
  32094. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
  32095. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
  32096.  
  32097. From owner-amigapl  Wed Mar 25 12:39:55 1998
  32098. Received: from butler.medianet.pl (root@butler.medianet.com.pl [195.116.184.2]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA10307 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 12:10:08 +0100 (MET)
  32099. Received: from mail.union.org.pl (virtual.medianet.pl [195.116.184.254])
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  32101.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 12:10:38 +0100 (MET)
  32102. Received: from union.org.pl (dial-29.medianet.pl [195.116.185.29])
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  32104.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 12:09:07 GMT
  32105. From: Artur Muszynski <amst@union.org.pl>
  32106. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  32107. Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 16:56:31 +0100
  32108. Message-ID: <yam7387.1583.122406008@mail.union.org.pl>
  32109. In-Reply-To: <yam7386.207.140749264@server.fiber.net.pl>
  32110. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  32111. Organization: Union
  32112. Subject: Re: AmigaOS
  32113. MIME-Version: 1.0
  32114. X-ISO-CONVERTED: Yam_ISO2 1.05 (02.11.97) (c) Silver Dream !
  32115. X-YAMISO-UPDATE: ftp://wfmh.man.szczecin.pl/pub/yam_iso2/
  32116. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  32117. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  32118.  
  32119. On 23-Mar-98, Marcin Orlowski wrote:
  32120. > > ppc.library jeszcze ochrony pami=EAci nie ma, ale jest na to przygoto=
  32121. wana.
  32122. > R=F3wnie dobrze mo=BFesz sobie odpali=E6 Enforcera czy CyberGuarda i ch=
  32123. roni=E6
  32124. > bez PPC. Ale nie o to tu chyba chodzi=B3o. PPC te=BF tu nic nie rozwi=B1=
  32125. zuje.
  32126.  
  32127. Enforcer i CyberGuard to nie jest pe=B3na ochrona pami=EAci, tylko narz=EA=
  32128. dzia do
  32129. debugowania program=F3w - robi=B1 niez=B3y u=BFytek z MMU, ale na tyle, n=
  32130. a ile
  32131. pozwala konstrukcja AmigaOSu. Dlaczego PPC nic nie rozwi=B1zuje? Czy mo=BF=
  32132. esz to
  32133. wyja=B6ni=E6, oczywi=B6cie w =B6wietle za=B3o=BFe=F1 Fazy (czy s=B1 one r=
  32134. ealne, to inna
  32135. sprawa) ?
  32136.  
  32137. > Faza oszcz=EAdza na pude=B3kach wi=EAc nie spodziewaj si=EA, =BFe zatru=
  32138. dnienie si=EA =
  32139.  
  32140. > u nich drastycznie zmieni. ;-(
  32141.  
  32142. Od tej strony Faza jest mi dobrze znana :-)
  32143.  
  32144. -- =
  32145.  
  32146.  
  32147.    // Artur Muszynski (AMST/UNION) A4000/040/EGS
  32148.  \//  e-mail: amst@union.org.pl
  32149.  
  32150. From owner-amigapl  Wed Mar 25 12:40:02 1998
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  32153. Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 12:20:21 +0100
  32154. Message-Id: <199803251120.MAA09138@zskl.p.lodz.pl>
  32155. X-Sender: kaczus@kki.net.pl
  32156. X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2
  32157. Mime-Version: 1.0
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  32159. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  32160. From: Tomasz Kaczanowski <kaczus@kki.net.pl>
  32161. Subject: Re: Wstepniak w MA 3/98
  32162.  
  32163. At 23:54 98-03-24 -0500, you wrote:
  32164.  
  32165. >THX Kaczus :))  
  32166. >Pozdrawiam          STEad
  32167.  
  32168. spox - tylko popraw strone tak, aby 1 - byla dostepna w wersji bez ramek, 2
  32169. - pola,
  32170. ktore nalezy wypelnic napisz w standardowym html-u, tak aby byly widoczne
  32171. z poziomu kazdej przegladarki - nie kazdy ma wybor...
  32172.  
  32173. Kaczus [bla]^2
  32174.  
  32175. From owner-amigapl  Wed Mar 25 12:40:12 1998
  32176. Received: from www.kki.net.pl (www.kki.net.pl [195.116.9.70]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA10332 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 12:22:41 +0100 (MET)
  32177. Received: from kki.net.pl (STEAD@pmone242.lodz.pdi.net [195.116.162.242])
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  32179.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 12:21:50 +0100
  32180. From: Stefan Koralewski <stead@kki.net.pl>
  32181. Reply-To: stead@kki.net.pl
  32182. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  32183. Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 12:09:59 -0500
  32184. Message-ID: <yam7388.2933.1747444432@kki.net.pl>
  32185. In-Reply-To: <yam7388.1206.2014271544@smtp.polbox.com>
  32186. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.2 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  32187. Organization: STEAD
  32188. Subject: re: Katalog =?iso-8859-1?Q?kt=F3ry?= i jest, i go nie ma... =?iso-8859-1?Q?Rozwi=E2zanie?=
  32189. MIME-Version: 1.0
  32190. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
  32191. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  32192.  
  32193. Dnia 25-Mar-98, Jaroslaw Waligorski napisa=EE:
  32194. ***> CZE=D4=CA
  32195.  
  32196. ***> W zwi=E2zku z dzia=EEaniem pewnego programu pad=EEa mi na twardym wa=
  32197. lidacja.
  32198.  
  32199. Hmm, od d=EEu=FBszego istnieje system AFS, w kt=F3rym problemy z walidacj=
  32200. =E2 nie zdarzaj=E2 si=EB
  32201. Co wi=EBcej, istnieje r=F3wnie=FB masa os=F3b (przynajmniej tu u nas, w L=
  32202. odzi) kt=F3re ten system zainstalowa=EEy i przez d=EEu=FBszy czas nie spo=
  32203. wodowa=EEo to nijakich problem=F3w.
  32204. Brak problem=F3w z walidacj=E2 to tylko jedna z wielu zalet AFS w stosunk=
  32205. u do FFS...
  32206.  
  32207. Pozdrawiam          STEad
  32208.  
  32209. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
  32210. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
  32211. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
  32212. | STEAD is registered and trademark and bla, bla, bla... |
  32213. |         _                                              |
  32214. |        // STEad Stefan Koralewski   A-12oo/o3o/5o/32Mb |         =
  32215.  
  32216. |       // steAD Adam Tynenski        CDR/4.8Gb Hdd/SCSI |
  32217. | _ /\ // stead@kki.net.pl            M1538s/HDFlop/28.8 |
  32218. | \\\/// stead@lodz.pdi.net                              |
  32219. |  \\// PPC603e/250/40 cooming soon czyli budziet bystra |       =
  32220.  
  32221. |   ""                                                   |  =
  32222.  
  32223. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
  32224. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
  32225. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
  32226.  
  32227. From owner-amigapl  Wed Mar 25 13:52:59 1998
  32228. Received: from localhost (carlos@localhost) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA10654 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 13:52:58 +0100 (MET)
  32229. Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 13:52:57 +0100 (MET)
  32230. From: Marcin Orlowski <carlos@amiga.com.pl>
  32231. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  32232. Subject: Re: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Nieszcz=EBsne?= Reply-To
  32233. In-Reply-To: <yam7388.1036.2016239472@zskl.p.lodz.pl>
  32234. Message-ID: <Pine.NEB.3.96.980325135006.10587B-100000@amiga.com.pl>
  32235. MIME-Version: 1.0
  32236. Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
  32237. Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE
  32238.  
  32239. On Wed, 25 Mar 1998, Grzegorz Kraszewski wrote:
  32240.  
  32241. > 1. Co b=EAdzie je=BFeli zostawi=EA Reply-To ze swoim prywatnym adresem? P=
  32242. rzecie=BF
  32243. > program zarz=B1dzaj=B1cy nasz=B1 list=B1 (bo chyba nikt nie robi tego r=
  32244. =EAcznie?)
  32245. > m=F3g=B3by sam podmienia=E6 zawarto=B6=E6 tego pola na amigapl@amiga.com.=
  32246. pl.
  32247.  
  32248. Co z reszta robi od samego poczatku.
  32249.  
  32250. > 2. Czy jest jaki=B6 spos=F3b w YAM-ie 2 na to, =BFeby listy wysy=B3ane do=
  32251.  listy :-)
  32252. > nie mia=B3y pola Reply-To, a wysy=B3ane gdzie indziej mia=B3y (to jednak =
  32253. u=B3atwia
  32254.  
  32255. Bez np. ARexxa nie.
  32256.  
  32257. > =BFycie korespondentom)?
  32258.  
  32259. Tylko wtedy kiedy adres na ktory ma przyjsc odpowiedz ma byc inny
  32260. niz ten w polu From:
  32261.  
  32262. > odpalany przed wysy=B3aniem i sprawdzaj=B1cy wszystkie listy z 'outgoing'=
  32263.  i
  32264. > je=BFeli adres docelowy to 'amigapl@amiga.com.pl' wycinaj=B1cy pole Reply=
  32265. -To.
  32266.  
  32267. Jak widac, nie musisz sie tym przejmowac ;-)
  32268.  
  32269. --
  32270.  Daddy, what FORMATTING DRIVE C: means?
  32271.  
  32272.  Marcin                     mailto:carlos@amiga.com.pl
  32273.                               http://www.wfmh.org.pl
  32274.  
  32275.  
  32276. From owner-amigapl  Wed Mar 25 14:03:04 1998
  32277. Received: from localhost (carlos@localhost) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA10688 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 14:03:03 +0100 (MET)
  32278. Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 14:03:02 +0100 (MET)
  32279. From: Marcin Orlowski <carlos@amiga.com.pl>
  32280. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  32281. Subject: Re: UWAGA !!!
  32282. In-Reply-To: <l03110701b13e8557e054@[194.204.139.244]>
  32283. Message-ID: <Pine.NEB.3.96.980325140149.10587D-100000@amiga.com.pl>
  32284. MIME-Version: 1.0
  32285. Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
  32286.  
  32287. On Wed, 25 Mar 1998, Marek Telecki wrote:
  32288.  
  32289. > W zwiazku z utrata mojego konta pocztowego: telly@box43.gnet.pl - bez
  32290. > wiadomej mi i racjonalnej przyczyny zostalem zmuszony do zalozenia nowego
  32291. > konta - na razie tez na tym samym serwerze:
  32292. > 
  32293. > telly2@box43.gnet.pl
  32294.  
  32295. Polecam http://amiga.org.pl
  32296.  
  32297. --
  32298.  Marcin                     mailto:carlos@amiga.com.pl
  32299.                               http://www.wfmh.org.pl
  32300.  
  32301.  
  32302. From owner-amigapl  Wed Mar 25 14:09:46 1998
  32303. Received: from friko3.onet.pl (friko3.onet.pl [194.204.188.12]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA10634 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 13:44:30 +0100 (MET)
  32304. Received: from ppp82.slupsk.tpnet.pl (ppp82.slupsk.tpnet.pl [194.204.177.82])
  32305.           by friko3.onet.pl (8.8.7/8.8.4) with SMTP
  32306.       id OAA13178 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 14:42:31 +0100
  32307. Received: by ppp82.slupsk.tpnet.pl with Microsoft Mail
  32308.     id <01BD57F3.D36C4700@ppp82.slupsk.tpnet.pl>; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 13:42:17 +-100
  32309. Message-ID: <01BD57F3.D36C4700@ppp82.slupsk.tpnet.pl>
  32310. From: Piotr Hoppe <p_hoppe@friko3.onet.pl>
  32311. To: "'AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi'" <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  32312. Subject: Jak wymusic deklaracje zmiennych w CHIP RAM
  32313. Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 13:39:41 +-100
  32314. Encoding: 20 TEXT
  32315.  
  32316. Heja!
  32317.  
  32318. Pisze program w Storm C, w guidzie do programu wyczytalem, ze uzycie 
  32319. #pragma chip spowoduje, ze deklarowane zmienne znajda sie w CHIP RAM, a 
  32320. #pragma fast, ze z powrotem beda umieszczone w dowolnym dostepnym rodzaju 
  32321. pamieci. Wiec zrobilem tak jak napisali i okazalo sie, ze to nie dziala, 
  32322. albo ja nie jestem dokladnie poinformowany.
  32323.  
  32324. Tworze pewna klase (do grafiki), w ktorej czes danych graficznych powinna 
  32325. sie znalesc odrazu w CHIP'ie, narazie poradzilem sobie z uzyciem AllokMem i 
  32326. ComyMem, jednak powoduje to, ze dane niepotrzebnie pozostaja w pamieci 
  32327. fast.
  32328.  
  32329. Czy ktos wie jak zrobic to inaczej?
  32330.  
  32331. Piotr Hoppe
  32332. alias Bruner
  32333.  
  32334. P.S.
  32335. w HiSoft C++ dziala to z uzyciem #pragma chip (jest w przykladach)
  32336.  
  32337. From owner-amigapl  Wed Mar 25 14:39:49 1998
  32338. Received: from student.uci.agh.edu.pl (ramix@student.uci.agh.edu.pl [149.156.98.60]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA10801 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 14:35:15 +0100 (MET)
  32339. Received: from localhost (ramix@localhost) by student.uci.agh.edu.pl (8.8.6/8.8.5/ts-tmpl.970124) with SMTP
  32340.        id OAA04146 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 14:34:58 +0100 (MET)
  32341. Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 14:34:58 +0100 (MET)
  32342. From: Grzegorz Junka <ramix@student.uci.agh.edu.pl>
  32343. X-Sender: ramix@student
  32344. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  32345. Subject: Re: CD-ROM Audio przez AUDIO A-4000
  32346. In-Reply-To: <199803250709.IAA31056@www.kki.net.pl>
  32347. Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.95.980325143413.11365E-100000@student>
  32348. MIME-Version: 1.0
  32349. Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
  32350.  
  32351. > Wczoraj udalo mi sie podlaczyc wyjscie Audio CD-ROMa do plyty A-4000. Nie wybuchlo nic... i dziala !!!
  32352. > Wystarczy podlaczyc do CD-ROMa zalaczony kabelek (ja w swojej Toshibie mialem 4-pinowy kabelek z 3 podlaczynimi):
  32353. > 1 2 3 4
  32354. > 1 pin - lewy kanal Audio
  32355. > 2 pin - masa
  32356. > 3 pin - wolny
  32357. > 4 pin - prawy kanal Audio.
  32358.  
  32359. W CD-romach na ogole piny 2 i 3 sa oba zwarte do masy, a krancowe 1 i 4 to
  32360. kanaly Audio.
  32361.  
  32362. --
  32363. ,x80Y^"    Member of Amiga Promotion Group and fanatic AMIGA user
  32364. $0+'            Grzegorz Junka "Bastian"
  32365. 08    piccolo@ibm.uci.agh.edu.pl    bastian@apg.plukwa.pdi.net
  32366. 0'
  32367. 9    A1200Inf 040/40Bliz 32Mb 1.6Gb 12x 1942S CN40BC
  32368.  
  32369. From owner-amigapl  Wed Mar 25 14:40:00 1998
  32370. Received: from butler.medianet.pl (root@butler.medianet.com.pl [195.116.184.2]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA10795 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 14:31:18 +0100 (MET)
  32371. Received: from mail.union.org.pl (virtual.medianet.pl [195.116.184.254])
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  32373.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 14:31:46 +0100 (MET)
  32374. Received: from union.org.pl (Konrad@dial-11.medianet.pl [195.116.185.11])
  32375.     by mail.union.org.pl (8.8.6/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA17159
  32376.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 14:30:20 GMT
  32377. From: Konrad Bielski <dominor@union.org.pl>
  32378. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  32379. Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 13:15:48 +0100
  32380. Message-ID: <yam7388.2400.141887408@mail.union.org.pl>
  32381. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.3a [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  32382. Subject: Re: Wstepniak w MA 3/98
  32383. MIME-Version: 1.0
  32384. X-ISO-CONVERTED: Yam_ISO2 1.04 (28.10.97) (c) Silver Dream !
  32385. X-YAMISO-UPDATE: ftp://wfmh.man.szczecin.pl/pub/yam_iso2/
  32386. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  32387. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  32388.  
  32389. Dnia 25-Mar-98, Marcin Orlowski napisa=B3:
  32390.  
  32391. >Szkoda, =BFe Petro T & friends nie maj=B1 ochoty np. da=E6 za to popali=E6=
  32392.  komu
  32393. >trzeba. W ko=F1cu to ich psi interes.
  32394.  
  32395. Petro (na 90%) bedzie w czerwcu na Amiga Show w Polsce, mozna sie
  32396. go wtedy zapytac jak widzi rozwiazanie tego problemu.
  32397.  
  32398. Podejrzewam, ze oficjalna nota Amiga International lub G2k,
  32399. wyslana przez prawnikow tych firm, do Ministerstwa Edukacji
  32400. rozwiazalaby problem.
  32401.  
  32402. Wiadomo, ze ksiazki z obiegu sie nie wycofa, ale moze chociaz
  32403. w nastepnym wydaniu zostanie usuniety bolesny fragment.
  32404.  
  32405. Hej,
  32406. -- =
  32407.  
  32408.                Konrad Bielski
  32409.         E-mail: dominor@union.org.pl
  32410. Pracuje na: A4000T 604e/200 - 060/50 98MB CV64/3D
  32411.             A1200T 060/50 10MB
  32412.                 =
  32413.  
  32414.  
  32415. From owner-amigapl  Wed Mar 25 15:09:46 1998
  32416. Received: from student.uci.agh.edu.pl (ramix@student.uci.agh.edu.pl [149.156.98.60]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA10864 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 15:00:15 +0100 (MET)
  32417. Received: from localhost (ramix@localhost) by student.uci.agh.edu.pl (8.8.6/8.8.5/ts-tmpl.970124) with SMTP
  32418.        id OAA29154; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 14:58:04 +0100 (MET)
  32419. Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 14:58:03 +0100 (MET)
  32420. From: Grzegorz Junka <ramix@student.uci.agh.edu.pl>
  32421. X-Sender: ramix@student
  32422. To: Lista dyskusyjna uzytkownikow komputera AMIGA AMIGAPL <AMIGA@PLEARN.EDU.PL>
  32423. cc: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  32424. Subject: materialy o kartach Phase5
  32425. Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.95.980325144909.21931A-100000@student>
  32426. MIME-Version: 1.0
  32427. Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
  32428.  
  32429.  
  32430. Mam prosbe do wszystkich, ktorzy mogli by mi pomoc.
  32431.  
  32432. Musze napisac referat z 'Architektur komputerow' i wstepnie wzialem sobie
  32433. temat o PowerPC604. Jesli byla by jednak taka mozliwosc, chcialbym zrobic
  32434. ten referat o karcie PowerPC do Amigi4000, a konkretnie o pracy
  32435. rownoleglej PowerPC i Motoroli68k na tej karcie. No i tu jest wlasnie
  32436. problem. O ile materialy o PowerPC mozna jakos z Motoroli dostac, nie
  32437. wiem, czy jest jakakolwiek szansa na bardziej techniczny opis kart PPC do
  32438. Amigi. Referat musi o czyms byc i nie moge po prostu lac wody. Jesli ktos
  32439. zna jakies adresy, gdzie moglbym takie materialy dostac, lub tez zna
  32440. adresy kogos (moze z Phase5) do kogo moglbym napisac maila z pytaniem,
  32441. bardzo prosze o info.
  32442.  
  32443. Z gory dzieki.
  32444.  
  32445. --
  32446. ,x80Y^"    Member of Amiga Promotion Group and fanatic AMIGA user
  32447. $0+'            Grzegorz Junka "Bastian"
  32448. 08    piccolo@ibm.uci.agh.edu.pl    bastian@apg.plukwa.pdi.net
  32449. 0'
  32450. 9    A1200Inf 040/40Bliz 32Mb 1.6Gb 12x 1942S CN40BC
  32451.  
  32452. From owner-amigapl  Wed Mar 25 15:39:46 1998
  32453. Received: from www.kki.net.pl (www.kki.net.pl [195.116.9.70]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA10932 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 15:35:26 +0100 (MET)
  32454. Received: from kki.net.pl (STEAD@pmone249.lodz.pdi.net [195.116.162.249])
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  32456.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 15:34:36 +0100
  32457. From: Stefan Koralewski <stead@kki.net.pl>
  32458. Reply-To: stead@kki.net.pl
  32459. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  32460. Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 14:12:10 -0500
  32461. Message-ID: <yam7388.485.1747408336@kki.net.pl>
  32462. In-Reply-To: <yam7388.1873.146723840@server.fiber.net.pl>
  32463. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.2 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  32464. Organization: STEAD
  32465. Subject: Re: Wstepniak w MA 3/98
  32466. MIME-Version: 1.0
  32467. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
  32468. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  32469.  
  32470. Dnia 25-Mar-98, Marcin Orlowski napisa=EE:
  32471.  
  32472. >Dnia 24-Mar-98, Grzegorz Kraszewski napisa=B3:
  32473.  
  32474. >Szkoda, =BFe Petro T & friends nie maj=B1 ochoty np. da=E6 za to popali=E6=
  32475.  komu trzeba.
  32476. >W ko=F1cu to ich psi interes.
  32477.  
  32478. A moze by tak dac im znac. Moze wcale o tym nie wiedza !!!. Wraz z naszym=
  32479. i podpisami.
  32480.  
  32481. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
  32482. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
  32483. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
  32484. | STEAD is registered and trademark and bla, bla, bla... |
  32485. |         _                                              |
  32486. |        // STEad Stefan Koralewski   A-12oo/o3o/5o/32Mb |         =
  32487.  
  32488. |       // steAD Adam Tynenski        CDR/4.8Gb Hdd/SCSI |
  32489. | _ /\ // stead@kki.net.pl            M1538s/HDFlop/28.8 |
  32490. | \\\/// stead@lodz.pdi.net                              |
  32491. |  \\// PPC603e/250/40 cooming soon czyli budziet bystra |       =
  32492.  
  32493. |   ""                                                   |  =
  32494.  
  32495. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
  32496. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
  32497. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
  32498.  
  32499. From owner-amigapl  Wed Mar 25 15:39:56 1998
  32500. Received: from butler.medianet.pl (root@butler.medianet.com.pl [195.116.184.2]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA10920 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 15:27:12 +0100 (MET)
  32501. Received: from mail.union.org.pl (virtual.medianet.pl [195.116.184.254])
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  32503.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 15:27:43 +0100 (MET)
  32504. Received: from union.org.pl (Konrad@dial-32.medianet.pl [195.116.185.32])
  32505.     by mail.union.org.pl (8.8.6/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA19601
  32506.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 15:26:18 GMT
  32507. From: Konrad Bielski <dominor@union.org.pl>
  32508. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  32509. Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 15:22:54 +0100
  32510. Message-ID: <yam7388.2700.141887408@mail.union.org.pl>
  32511. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.3a [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  32512. Subject: Re: 14" vs 15"
  32513. MIME-Version: 1.0
  32514. X-ISO-CONVERTED: Yam_ISO2 1.04 (28.10.97) (c) Silver Dream !
  32515. X-YAMISO-UPDATE: ftp://wfmh.man.szczecin.pl/pub/yam_iso2/
  32516. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  32517. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  32518.  
  32519. Dnia 25-Mar-98, Grzegorz Kraszewski napisa=B3:
  32520.  
  32521. [Big Ciach]
  32522.  
  32523. >proporcje 4:3  to czynna wysoko=B6=E6 wynosi  213.3  mm.  Jedna  linia  =
  32524. ma  wi=EAc
  32525. >szeroko=B6=E6 0.21 mm, a plamka ma 0.28 mm. Linie nak=B3adaj=B1 si=EA wi=
  32526. =EAc  na  siebie
  32527. >i ostro=B6=E6 siada.  Podobnie  w  poziomie  nak=B3adaj=B1  si=EA  s=B1s=
  32528. iednie  piksele.
  32529.  
  32530. W tym miejscu (moim zdaniem) teoria dosy=E6 kiepsko przek=B3ada si=EA na =
  32531. praktyk=EA.
  32532.  
  32533. >zrobi=E6 Workbench 1024x768, a osobi=B6cie wybra=B3bym 800x600, bo  lubi=
  32534. =EA  widzie=E6
  32535. >ka=BFdy piksel.
  32536.  
  32537. Osobi=B6cie, to chyba nie pracowa=B3e=B6 na WB w rozdzielczo=B6ci 1024x76=
  32538. 8
  32539. lub wy=BFszej, bo w przeciwnym razie tak szybko nie przesiadalby=B6 si=EA=
  32540.  
  32541. na 800x600
  32542.  
  32543. Hej,
  32544. -- =
  32545.  
  32546.                Konrad Bielski
  32547.         E-mail: dominor@union.org.pl
  32548. Pracuje na: A4000T 604e/200 - 060/50 98MB CV64/3D
  32549.             A1200T 060/50 10MB
  32550.                 =
  32551.  
  32552.  
  32553. From owner-amigapl  Wed Mar 25 15:40:04 1998
  32554. Received: from www.kki.net.pl (www.kki.net.pl [195.116.9.70]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA10931 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 15:35:22 +0100 (MET)
  32555. Received: from kki.net.pl (STEAD@pmone249.lodz.pdi.net [195.116.162.249])
  32556.     by www.kki.net.pl (8.8.7/8.8.7.ver6) with SMTP id PAA29568
  32557.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 15:34:23 +0100
  32558. From: Stefan Koralewski <stead@kki.net.pl>
  32559. Reply-To: stead@kki.net.pl
  32560. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  32561. Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 14:14:37 -0500
  32562. Message-ID: <yam7388.1829.1747408336@kki.net.pl>
  32563. In-Reply-To: <199803251120.MAA09138@zskl.p.lodz.pl>
  32564. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.2 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  32565. Organization: STEAD
  32566. Subject: Re: Wstepniak w MA 3/98
  32567. MIME-Version: 1.0
  32568. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
  32569. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  32570.  
  32571. Dnia 25-Mar-98, Tomasz Kaczanowski napisa=EE:
  32572. >At 23:54 98-03-24 -0500, you wrote:
  32573.  
  32574. >spox - tylko popraw strone tak, aby 1 - byla dostepna w wersji bez ramek=
  32575. , 2
  32576. >- pola,
  32577. >ktore nalezy wypelnic napisz w standardowym html-u, tak aby byly widoczn=
  32578. e
  32579. >z poziomu kazdej przegladarki - nie kazdy ma wybor...
  32580.  
  32581. Oki to kolejna uwaga ktora mysle ze nalezy rozwazyc.
  32582.  
  32583. Troche zajmie to czasu, ale... czego sie nie robi ku chwale Amigi
  32584. Pozdrawiam STEad
  32585.  
  32586. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
  32587. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
  32588. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
  32589. | STEAD is registered and trademark and bla, bla, bla... |
  32590. |         _                                              |
  32591. |        // STEad Stefan Koralewski   A-12oo/o3o/5o/32Mb |         =
  32592.  
  32593. |       // steAD Adam Tynenski        CDR/4.8Gb Hdd/SCSI |
  32594. | _ /\ // stead@kki.net.pl            M1538s/HDFlop/28.8 |
  32595. | \\\/// stead@lodz.pdi.net                              |
  32596. |  \\// PPC603e/250/40 cooming soon czyli budziet bystra |       =
  32597.  
  32598. |   ""                                                   |  =
  32599.  
  32600. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
  32601. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
  32602. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
  32603.  
  32604. From owner-amigapl  Wed Mar 25 15:40:10 1998
  32605. Received: from butler.medianet.pl (root@butler.medianet.com.pl [195.116.184.2]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA10918 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 15:27:11 +0100 (MET)
  32606. Received: from mail.union.org.pl (virtual.medianet.pl [195.116.184.254])
  32607.     by butler.medianet.pl (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA05015
  32608.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 15:27:41 +0100 (MET)
  32609. Received: from union.org.pl (Konrad@dial-32.medianet.pl [195.116.185.32])
  32610.     by mail.union.org.pl (8.8.6/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA19598
  32611.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 15:26:11 GMT
  32612. From: Konrad Bielski <dominor@union.org.pl>
  32613. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  32614. Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 15:15:37 +0100
  32615. Message-ID: <yam7388.1874.141887408@mail.union.org.pl>
  32616. In-Reply-To: <yam7388.2394.1747444432@kki.net.pl>
  32617. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.3a [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  32618. Subject: Re: Odp: 14" vs 15"
  32619. MIME-Version: 1.0
  32620. X-ISO-CONVERTED: Yam_ISO2 1.04 (28.10.97) (c) Silver Dream !
  32621. X-YAMISO-UPDATE: ftp://wfmh.man.szczecin.pl/pub/yam_iso2/
  32622. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  32623. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  32624.  
  32625. Dnia 25-Mar-98, Stefan Koralewski napisa=B3:
  32626.  
  32627. >Panowie kupujcie monitory SVGA do Amig !!! dopiero wtedy system Amigi na=
  32628. biera
  32629. >powa=BFnego wygl=B1du
  32630.  
  32631. Powa=BFny wygl=B1d, na ko=B6ciach AGA?
  32632.  
  32633. Tia,
  32634. -- =
  32635.  
  32636.                Konrad Bielski
  32637.         E-mail: dominor@union.org.pl
  32638. Pracuje na: A4000T 604e/200 - 060/50 98MB CV64/3D
  32639.             A1200T 060/50 10MB
  32640.                 =
  32641.  
  32642.  
  32643. From owner-amigapl  Wed Mar 25 15:40:17 1998
  32644. Received: from server.fiber.net.pl (server.fiber.net.pl [195.117.208.101]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA10934 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 15:36:54 +0100 (MET)
  32645. Received: from amiga.com.pl (pppa200.szczecin.tpnet.pl [194.204.141.200])
  32646.           by server.fiber.net.pl (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with SMTP
  32647.           id AAA2425 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>;
  32648.           Wed, 25 Mar 1998 15:36:11 +0100
  32649. From: Miloslaw Smyk <thorgal@amiga.com.pl>
  32650. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  32651. Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 11:41:35 +0100
  32652. Message-ID: <yam7388.1781.139232080@fiber.net.pl>
  32653. In-Reply-To: <199803250653.HAA29344@www.kki.net.pl>
  32654. X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview3 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
  32655. Organization: W.F.M.H.
  32656. Subject: Re: Odp: 14" vs 15"
  32657. MIME-Version: 1.0
  32658. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  32659. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  32660.  
  32661. Dnia 25-Mar-98, Marcin Soko=B3owski rzek=B3 co nast=EApuje:
  32662.  
  32663. >> 4. video bandwidth 65Hz i 85Hz
  32664. > =
  32665.  
  32666. > Na karcie Merlin mam 800x600 i 82 Hz.
  32667.  
  32668. Tu chodzi=B3o o bandwidth mierzony w MHz. 65MHz to troch=EA ma=B3o, przy =
  32669. wy=BFszych
  32670. cz=EAstotliwo=B6ciach/rozdzielczo=B6ciach/g=B3=EAboko=B6ciach koloru obra=
  32671. z b=EAdzie
  32672. nieostry. Inna sprawa, =BFe na 14" z wysokimi rozdzielczo=B6ciami nie ma =
  32673. co si=EA
  32674. pcha=E6.
  32675.  
  32676. IMHO - do karty graficznej 15" to dobry pocz=B1tek.
  32677.  
  32678. Mi=B3ek
  32679. -- =
  32680.  
  32681. mailto:thorgal@amiga.com.pl   |  "Man in the Moon and other weird things"=
  32682.  -
  32683. http://wfmh.org.pl/~thorgal/  |  see it at http://wfmh.org.pl/~thorgal/Mo=
  32684. on/
  32685.  
  32686. From owner-amigapl  Wed Mar 25 16:09:47 1998
  32687. Received: from friko.onet.pl (friko.onet.pl [194.204.191.9]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA11015 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 15:58:13 +0100 (MET)
  32688. Received: from priv.onet.pl (Siera@pppa246.poznan.tpnet.pl [194.204.178.246])
  32689.           by friko.onet.pl (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP
  32690.       id PAA07239; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 15:51:23 +0100
  32691. From: Siera <sie@friko.onet.pl>
  32692. To: amiga@plearn.edu.pl, amigapl@amiga.com.pl
  32693. CC: amigapl@amiga.com.pl, amigapl@amiga.com.pl, amigapl@amiga.com.pl,
  32694.         amigapl@amiga.com.pl, amigapl@amiga.com.pl, amigapl@amiga.com.pl,
  32695.         amigapl@amiga.com.pl, amigapl@amiga.com.pl, amigapl@amiga.com.pl,
  32696.         amigapl@amiga.com.pl, amigapl@amiga.com.pl, amiga@plearn.edu.pl,
  32697.         amigapl@amiga.com.pl, amigapl@amiga.com.pl, amigapl@amiga.com.pl,
  32698.         amigapl@amiga.com.pl
  32699. Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 14:44:55 +0100
  32700. Message-ID: <yam7388.2756.120347728@priv.onet.pl>
  32701. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  32702. Subject: Magix
  32703. MIME-Version: 1.0
  32704. Content-Type: text/plain
  32705.  
  32706. Hi,
  32707. Ostatnio czesto w tv VIVA reklamuja taki pakiet muzyczny na pc ciekawi mnie
  32708. czy istnieje cos podobnego na Amige.
  32709. Codzi glownie o odtwarzanie wielu sampli na raz z rozna glosnoscia i innymu
  32710. bajerami.
  32711.  
  32712. Pozdrawiam
  32713.  
  32714.       _____ _ _____ _____________
  32715.      |     | |     |     \       |     A4000/040/25MHz/16Mb/545Mb/CV64
  32716.      |   --| |  ---|  O   |   |  |     mailto: sie@priv.onet.pl
  32717.      |     | |     |     /       |     priv.onet.pl/po/sie/ 
  32718.      |---  | |  ---|  _  \    |  |     Strona o Poznaniu !!!
  32719.      |_____|_|_____|_| \__\___|__|
  32720.  
  32721.   
  32722.      
  32723.       
  32724.       
  32725.  
  32726.  
  32727.  
  32728. From owner-amigapl  Wed Mar 25 16:09:55 1998
  32729. Received: from ernie.icslab.agh.edu.pl (kiskra@ernie.icslab.agh.edu.pl [149.156.98.14]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA10976 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 15:41:34 +0100 (MET)
  32730. Received: from localhost (kiskra@localhost) by ernie.icslab.agh.edu.pl (8.8.6/8.8.5/ts-tmpl.970124) with SMTP
  32731.        id PAA02618 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 15:40:02 +0100 (MET)
  32732. Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 15:40:00 +0100 (MET)
  32733. From: Kamil Iskra <kiskra@ernie.icslab.agh.edu.pl>
  32734. X-Sender: kiskra@ernie
  32735. Reply-To: Kamil Iskra <iskra@student.uci.agh.edu.pl>
  32736. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  32737. Subject: Re: Linux na Ami
  32738. In-Reply-To: <Pine.HPP.3.95.980324081114.6106B-100000@zeus.polsl.gliwice.pl>
  32739. Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.95.980325153524.127A-100000@ernie>
  32740. MIME-Version: 1.0
  32741. Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
  32742.  
  32743. On Tue, 24 Mar 1998, Aleksander Salwa wrote:
  32744.  
  32745. >     Czy zna ktos SENSOWNA dystrybucje Linuxa na Amige ?
  32746.  
  32747. Wiadomo mi o istnieniu dwoch sensownych dystrybucji:
  32748.  
  32749. Debian (1.3?)
  32750. RedHat (5.0)
  32751.  
  32752. Niestety, nie jestem w stanie nic blizszego na ich temat powiedziec. Co
  32753. sie tyczy RedHata, to jest on dostepny w:
  32754.  
  32755. ftp://sunsite.auc.dk/local/os/linux/680x0/redhat
  32756.  
  32757. Kumpel zaczal to sciagac i w chwili obecnej mamy nawet calosc w Krakowie,
  32758. na serwerze, tyle ze nie mamy fizycznego dostepu do serwera, wiec bedziemy
  32759. te ponad 400 MB przesylac przez siec (latwo policzyc, ale to potrwa przy
  32760. laczu 115 kbps).
  32761.  
  32762. / Kamil Iskra    AmigaOS  Linux/i386  Linux/m68k               \
  32763. | GeekGadgets GCC maintainer   UNIX system administrator       |
  32764. | iskra@student.uci.agh.edu.pl  kiskra@ernie.icslab.agh.edu.pl |
  32765. \ kamil@dwd.interkom.pl   http://student.uci.agh.edu.pl/~iskra /
  32766.  
  32767. From owner-amigapl  Wed Mar 25 16:10:03 1998
  32768. Received: from ernie.icslab.agh.edu.pl (kiskra@ernie.icslab.agh.edu.pl [149.156.98.14]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA10995 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 15:49:11 +0100 (MET)
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  32771. Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 15:47:31 +0100 (MET)
  32772. From: Kamil Iskra <kiskra@ernie.icslab.agh.edu.pl>
  32773. X-Sender: kiskra@ernie
  32774. Reply-To: Kamil Iskra <iskra@student.uci.agh.edu.pl>
  32775. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  32776. Subject: Re: mUSASHI and AmigaOS
  32777. In-Reply-To: <199803241812.TAA25561@arka.mtl.pl>
  32778. Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.95.980325154013.127B-100000@ernie>
  32779. MIME-Version: 1.0
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  32782.  
  32783. On Mon, 23 Mar 1998, Adam Zaparcinski wrote:
  32784.  
  32785. > IMHO wieszanie si=EA programu w trakcie jego tworzenia jest rzecz=B1 norm=
  32786. aln=B1 i
  32787. > niezale=BFn=B1 od platformy. Grunt, =BFeby te wszystkie b=B3=EAdy usun=B1=
  32788. =E6 i program nie
  32789. > wiesza=B3 si=EA w wersji ko=F1cowej.
  32790.  
  32791. Co do tego to sie zgadzamy. Tyle, ze dyskusja zaczela sie wlasnie od
  32792. wieszania systemu w czasie pisania programu. Moim zdaniem to jest powod,
  32793. dla ktorego wielu programistow chcialoby memory protection w AmigaOS.
  32794.  
  32795. Oczekiwania uzytkownikow sa jednak inne. Szarego uzytkownika nie obchodzi,
  32796. jezeli mu sie system powiedzmy ze dwa razy dziennie wylozy - reset i po
  32797. krzyku. Czytalem np. niedawno, ze w powaznej ankiecie przeprowadzonej na
  32798. uzytkownikach PC w USA wyszlo, ze cos dobrze ponad 50% z nich, chyba kolo
  32799. 70%, jest bardzo zadowolonych ze swoich komputerow, z tego co one potrafia
  32800. i oferuja. Oczywiscie w ogromnej wiekszosci te komputery maja
  32801. zainstalowane W95. Tak wiec uzytkownikom nie przeszkadza, ze sie
  32802. komputer wiesza - ustawia sie autosave w edytorze raz na 1 min i juz.
  32803.  
  32804. I to jest to, co mnie osobiscie niepokoi. Klientom nie zalezy na
  32805. stabilnosci - a skoro nie zalezy kupujacym, to po cholere maja sie starac
  32806. sprzedajacy?
  32807.  
  32808. / Kamil Iskra    AmigaOS  Linux/i386  Linux/m68k               \
  32809. | GeekGadgets GCC maintainer   UNIX system administrator       |
  32810. | iskra@student.uci.agh.edu.pl  kiskra@ernie.icslab.agh.edu.pl |
  32811. \ kamil@dwd.interkom.pl   http://student.uci.agh.edu.pl/~iskra /
  32812.  
  32813. From owner-amigapl  Wed Mar 25 16:39:47 1998
  32814. Received: from piast.pertus.com.pl (root@piast.pertus.com.pl [195.116.191.6]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA11150 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 16:35:34 +0100 (MET)
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  32817.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 16:38:57 +0100
  32818. Message-Id: <199803251538.QAA17070@piast.pertus.com.pl>
  32819. From: "Arkadiusz Winiarek" <sharky@pertus.com.pl>
  32820. To: <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  32821. Subject: Conner
  32822. Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 16:35:44 +0100
  32823. X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
  32824. X-Priority: 3
  32825. X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1157
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  32828. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  32829.  
  32830. Siemka!
  32831.  
  32832. W poniedzialek wrocilem z serwisu i tam dowiedzialem sie, iz moj drugi =
  32833. dysk, czyli
  32834. Conner 540 MB odmowil posluszenstwa z powodu padniecia elektroniki.
  32835. Mialem juz okazje obdzwonic kilkanascie serwisow i w kazdym jednym mowia
  32836. o tym, ze dysk jest juz po prostu stary (o czym wiem i zgadzam sie) i =
  32837. trudno
  32838. znalezc do niego czesci. Tutaj moja prosba. Jezeli ktos z Was szanowni =
  32839. mial
  32840. podobny problem i znalazl gdzies serwis, ktory sie z podobna usterka =
  32841. uporal to prosze o maila na priva. A moze ktos po prostu ma elektronike =
  32842. z Connera 540
  32843. do opchania?=20
  32844.  
  32845. See yaa!
  32846.  
  32847.          "Sharky" Arkadiusz Winiarek
  32848.                  Happy Amiga User!
  32849. A-1200T/2.1GB/1260/50/32MB Fast RAM
  32850.                  Jawor woj. legnickie
  32851. From owner-amigapl  Wed Mar 25 16:39:55 1998
  32852. Received: from wfmh.org.pl (piter@pppa200.szczecin.tpnet.pl [194.204.141.200]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA11081 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 16:17:09 +0100 (MET)
  32853. From: Piotr Legiecki <piotrlg@wfmh.org.pl>
  32854. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  32855. Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 17:42:21 +0100
  32856. Message-ID: <yam7387.1056.505493016@wfmh.org.pl>
  32857. In-Reply-To: <yam7386.2800.2014942160@arka.mtl.pl>
  32858. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  32859. Subject: Re: PDFy
  32860. MIME-Version: 1.0
  32861. Content-Type: text/plain
  32862.  
  32863. On 23-Mar-98, Filip Kopec wrote:
  32864. >Witam!
  32865.  
  32866. >Czym to ugryzc na Amidze?  ...czy tylko pod SS z Acrobatem?
  32867. ghostscript na aminecie (text/show byc moze).
  32868. Czesc
  32869. -- 
  32870.  
  32871.                   --                                      --
  32872.                     ----------- Piotr Legiecki -----------
  32873.                   --          piotrlg@wfmh.org.pl         --
  32874.  
  32875. From owner-amigapl  Wed Mar 25 16:40:03 1998
  32876. Received: from onet.pl (root@onet.pl [194.204.188.6]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA11136 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 16:31:30 +0100 (MET)
  32877. Received: from mk (ppp-wct83.katowice.tpnet.pl [194.204.181.83])
  32878.     by onet.pl (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA16006
  32879.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 16:28:48 +0100 (MET)
  32880. From: "Wojciech Kocjan" <kocjan@ka.onet.pl>
  32881. To: "AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi" <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  32882. Subject: Re: PPC do A1200
  32883. Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 16:25:12 +0100
  32884. Message-ID: <01bd5802$344296c0$fdfefe01@mk>
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  32893.  
  32894. You wrote:
  32895. >Dnia 20-Mar-98, Wojciech Kocjan napisa³:
  32896. >> W Elboxie na przyk³ad mi powiedziano, ¿e Apolla (przynajmniej te z 040)
  32897. bêd±
  32898. >> uwzglêdniane w upgradzie na PPC. I tak w³a¶nie powinno byæ. Bo je¶li nie,
  32899. to
  32900. >
  32901. >Udajesz, czy naprawdê nie rozumiesz?
  32902.  
  32903. Nie rozumiem. Skoro nie mieli zamiaru robiæ upgradów z apolla, to po co
  32904. obiecywali? Mogli ¶mia³o mówiæ, ¿e tak bêdzie. Rozumiem, ¿e faktycznie bêd±
  32905. na tym traciæ. Ale skoro kto¶ obiecuje ca³y czas upgrade i tak dalej, to
  32906. niech przynajmniej tego s³owa dotrzymuje. A z reszt± na samej stronie fazy
  32907. pisa³o (zaraz po wypuszczeniu PPC to A1200), ¿e maj± zamiar uwzglêdniæ karty
  32908. innych producentów w upgradzie.
  32909.  
  32910. >> dlaczego ja mia³bym w ogóle owe PPC kupiæ?
  32911. >
  32912. >Chyba nie rozumiesz.
  32913.  
  32914. To podaj mi chocia¿ jeden logiczny powód, dla którego mia³bym kupiæ za ponad
  32915. 11 baniek (bez procesora 68040 - za³ó¿my, ¿e postanowiê straciæ) 603? W
  32916. porównaniu z badziewnym pentium ii owy 603 (porównuj±c procki o tych samych
  32917. czêstotliwo¶ciach) nie wypada najlepiej. Mam piecyka i wiem, jak "cudnie"
  32918. chodzi w95 a i 98. Dlatego pozostajê przy Amidze. Ale mimo wszystko nie
  32919. kupiê procka 603.
  32920.  
  32921. >> W koñcu z powodu niezbyt szybkiego jak na nasze czasy 603
  32922. >
  32923. >Co za (nasze) czasy...
  32924.  
  32925. Mia³em na my¶li fakt, ¿e 603 nie jest najnowszym procesorem. Phase5 mog³o
  32926. przynajmniej ujednoliciæ amigi i zrobiæ same karty z 604 (i przy okazji z 4
  32927. podstawkami SIMM). To tak, jakby nie wypu¶ciæ 040 i 060 na a1200.
  32928.  
  32929. Nie powiem, mogê sobie kupiæ Z-III za 10 baniek (nie piszê o tym z Micronika
  32930. ze SCSI) i kartê do A4000 za kupê kasy, ale nie potrzebujê Z3. A nawet
  32931. gdyby, to bym musia³ kupiæ wszystko na raz, bo (co uwa¿am za oczywiste i
  32932. rozumiem) gdybym owy tower (a w³a¶ciwie mam na my¶li rozszerzenie o sloty
  32933. Z3) kupi³, to móg³bym je sobie wsadziæ ... do zimnej wody :( A móg³by jako¶
  32934. pracowaæ w trybie Z2 (bez adresowania 32-bit), gdy nie ma karty
  32935. procesorowej. No ale to by zwiêkszy³o jego i tak du¿± cenê.
  32936.  
  32937. A nasze czasy, to rok 1998.
  32938.  
  32939. >> traciæ 8 baniek, które da³em za owe Apollo?
  32940. >
  32941. >Zaraz, zaraz. Czy¿by¶ zatem oczekiwa³ tabunów chêtnych, którzy Ci bêd±
  32942. >do tego dop³acaæ?
  32943.  
  32944. Nie spodziewam siê. Ale to co napisa³em wy¿ej - po co mi to obiecywano?
  32945.  
  32946. Oczywiste jest, ¿e nikt nie bêdzie dop³aca³ do tego, ¿eby przej¶æ na PPC.
  32947. Ale je¶li ¿aden u¿ytkownik Apolla nie bêdzie mia³ szans na upgrade do PPC,
  32948. to wielu da sobie spokój z PPC lub przejdzie na PC albo Maki. I proszê bez
  32949. odpowiedzi w stylu to przejd¼ sobie na tego PeCeta, bo i tak go mam, a o
  32950. maku coraz bardziej my¶lê - wkrótce bêdê mia³ wyniki z AIBB na UAE z maka z
  32951. prockiem G3, jak kogo¶ interesuje to na priva.
  32952.  
  32953. >> Wypraszam sobie. Nie powiem, Blizzard jest zdecydowanie lepszy, ale
  32954. Apollo
  32955. >> poza problemami z MapROMem nie robi± wiêkszych problemów. Przynajmniej u
  32956. >> mnie.
  32957. >
  32958. >No i sam sobie odpowiedzia³e¶. ;-P
  32959.  
  32960. A Blizzard taki idealny te¿ nie jest. Na przyk³ad jak mia³em Blizzard-IV
  32961. 030/50MHz
  32962. i 8MB RAMu to jakim¶ cudem SAS/C siê wiesza³ i musia³em go przerabiaæ
  32963. PowerPackerem,
  32964. aby nie ³adowa³ siê do fastu (pp, bo wtedy nie zna³em innego programu do
  32965. tego). Nie
  32966. obchodzi mnie dlaczego, ale gdy mam Apolla 040 takich problemów NIE MA! Nie
  32967. obchodzi mnie dlaczego (mo¿e to by³a kwestia SIMMa - przy kupnie Apolla
  32968. kupi³em 16-tkê EDO), ale jak dla mnie chodzi dobrze. A to siê liczy dla
  32969. przeciêtnego u¿ytkownika, nie? A poza tym s± trochê szybsze - o 2-3% chyba,
  32970. ale zawsze co¶ :)
  32971.  
  32972. Wojciech Kocjan
  32973. mailto:kocjan@ka.onet.pl        http://priv.onet.pl/ka/wkocjan/
  32974. GSM: +48 601 473237             SMS mailto:48601473237@text.plusgsm.pl
  32975. AUTHOR OF AStartV4, ANETGUI, NEWFMT.LIBRARY and other things
  32976. ---
  32977. "Software suppliers are trying to make their software packages more
  32978. 'user-friendly'.... Their best approach, so far, has been to take
  32979. all the old brochures, and stamp the words, 'user-friendly' on the cover."
  32980. -- Bill Gates, Pres., Microsoft, Inc.
  32981.  
  32982.  
  32983.  
  32984. From owner-amigapl  Wed Mar 25 16:40:11 1998
  32985. Received: from onet.pl (root@onet.pl [194.204.188.6]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA11139 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 16:33:00 +0100 (MET)
  32986. Received: from mk (ppp-wct83.katowice.tpnet.pl [194.204.181.83])
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  32988.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 16:30:26 +0100 (MET)
  32989. From: "Wojciech Kocjan" <kocjan@ka.onet.pl>
  32990. To: "AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi" <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  32991. Subject: Re: PPC do A1200
  32992. Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 16:25:12 +0100
  32993. Message-ID: <01bd5802$344296c0$fdfefe01@mk>
  32994. MIME-Version: 1.0
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  33001. X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3
  33002.  
  33003. You wrote:
  33004. >Dnia 20-Mar-98, Wojciech Kocjan napisa³:
  33005. >> W Elboxie na przyk³ad mi powiedziano, ¿e Apolla (przynajmniej te z 040)
  33006. bêd±
  33007. >> uwzglêdniane w upgradzie na PPC. I tak w³a¶nie powinno byæ. Bo je¶li nie,
  33008. to
  33009. >
  33010. >Udajesz, czy naprawdê nie rozumiesz?
  33011.  
  33012. Nie rozumiem. Skoro nie mieli zamiaru robiæ upgradów z apolla, to po co
  33013. obiecywali? Mogli ¶mia³o mówiæ, ¿e tak bêdzie. Rozumiem, ¿e faktycznie bêd±
  33014. na tym traciæ. Ale skoro kto¶ obiecuje ca³y czas upgrade i tak dalej, to
  33015. niech przynajmniej tego s³owa dotrzymuje. A z reszt± na samej stronie fazy
  33016. pisa³o (zaraz po wypuszczeniu PPC to A1200), ¿e maj± zamiar uwzglêdniæ karty
  33017. innych producentów w upgradzie.
  33018.  
  33019. >> dlaczego ja mia³bym w ogóle owe PPC kupiæ?
  33020. >
  33021. >Chyba nie rozumiesz.
  33022.  
  33023. To podaj mi chocia¿ jeden logiczny powód, dla którego mia³bym kupiæ za ponad
  33024. 11 baniek (bez procesora 68040 - za³ó¿my, ¿e postanowiê straciæ) 603? W
  33025. porównaniu z badziewnym pentium ii owy 603 (porównuj±c procki o tych samych
  33026. czêstotliwo¶ciach) nie wypada najlepiej. Mam piecyka i wiem, jak "cudnie"
  33027. chodzi w95 a i 98. Dlatego pozostajê przy Amidze. Ale mimo wszystko nie
  33028. kupiê procka 603.
  33029.  
  33030. >> W koñcu z powodu niezbyt szybkiego jak na nasze czasy 603
  33031. >
  33032. >Co za (nasze) czasy...
  33033.  
  33034. Mia³em na my¶li fakt, ¿e 603 nie jest najnowszym procesorem. Phase5 mog³o
  33035. przynajmniej ujednoliciæ amigi i zrobiæ same karty z 604 (i przy okazji z 4
  33036. podstawkami SIMM). To tak, jakby nie wypu¶ciæ 040 i 060 na a1200.
  33037.  
  33038. Nie powiem, mogê sobie kupiæ Z-III za 10 baniek (nie piszê o tym z Micronika
  33039. ze SCSI) i kartê do A4000 za kupê kasy, ale nie potrzebujê Z3. A nawet
  33040. gdyby, to bym musia³ kupiæ wszystko na raz, bo (co uwa¿am za oczywiste i
  33041. rozumiem) gdybym owy tower (a w³a¶ciwie mam na my¶li rozszerzenie o sloty
  33042. Z3) kupi³, to móg³bym je sobie wsadziæ ... do zimnej wody :( A móg³by jako¶
  33043. pracowaæ w trybie Z2 (bez adresowania 32-bit), gdy nie ma karty
  33044. procesorowej. No ale to by zwiêkszy³o jego i tak du¿± cenê.
  33045.  
  33046. A nasze czasy, to rok 1998.
  33047.  
  33048. >> traciæ 8 baniek, które da³em za owe Apollo?
  33049. >
  33050. >Zaraz, zaraz. Czy¿by¶ zatem oczekiwa³ tabunów chêtnych, którzy Ci bêd±
  33051. >do tego dop³acaæ?
  33052.  
  33053. Nie spodziewam siê. Ale to co napisa³em wy¿ej - po co mi to obiecywano?
  33054.  
  33055. Oczywiste jest, ¿e nikt nie bêdzie dop³aca³ do tego, ¿eby przej¶æ na PPC.
  33056. Ale je¶li ¿aden u¿ytkownik Apolla nie bêdzie mia³ szans na upgrade do PPC,
  33057. to wielu da sobie spokój z PPC lub przejdzie na PC albo Maki. I proszê bez
  33058. odpowiedzi w stylu to przejd¼ sobie na tego PeCeta, bo i tak go mam, a o
  33059. maku coraz bardziej my¶lê - wkrótce bêdê mia³ wyniki z AIBB na UAE z maka z
  33060. prockiem G3, jak kogo¶ interesuje to na priva.
  33061.  
  33062. >> Wypraszam sobie. Nie powiem, Blizzard jest zdecydowanie lepszy, ale
  33063. Apollo
  33064. >> poza problemami z MapROMem nie robi± wiêkszych problemów. Przynajmniej u
  33065. >> mnie.
  33066. >
  33067. >No i sam sobie odpowiedzia³e¶. ;-P
  33068.  
  33069. A Blizzard taki idealny te¿ nie jest. Na przyk³ad jak mia³em Blizzard-IV
  33070. 030/50MHz
  33071. i 8MB RAMu to jakim¶ cudem SAS/C siê wiesza³ i musia³em go przerabiaæ
  33072. PowerPackerem,
  33073. aby nie ³adowa³ siê do fastu (pp, bo wtedy nie zna³em innego programu do
  33074. tego). Nie
  33075. obchodzi mnie dlaczego, ale gdy mam Apolla 040 takich problemów NIE MA! Nie
  33076. obchodzi mnie dlaczego (mo¿e to by³a kwestia SIMMa - przy kupnie Apolla
  33077. kupi³em 16-tkê EDO), ale jak dla mnie chodzi dobrze. A to siê liczy dla
  33078. przeciêtnego u¿ytkownika, nie? A poza tym s± trochê szybsze - o 2-3% chyba,
  33079. ale zawsze co¶ :)
  33080.  
  33081. Wojciech Kocjan
  33082. mailto:kocjan@ka.onet.pl        http://priv.onet.pl/ka/wkocjan/
  33083. GSM: +48 601 473237             SMS mailto:48601473237@text.plusgsm.pl
  33084. AUTHOR OF AStartV4, ANETGUI, NEWFMT.LIBRARY and other things
  33085. ---
  33086. "Software suppliers are trying to make their software packages more
  33087. 'user-friendly'.... Their best approach, so far, has been to take
  33088. all the old brochures, and stamp the words, 'user-friendly' on the cover."
  33089. -- Bill Gates, Pres., Microsoft, Inc.
  33090.  
  33091.  
  33092.  
  33093. From owner-amigapl  Wed Mar 25 17:09:57 1998
  33094. Received: from opnt.optimus.wroc.pl (opnt.optimus.wroc.pl [195.117.195.3]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA11210 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 16:49:20 +0100 (MET)
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  33097.  Wed, 25 Mar 1998 16:47:37 +0100
  33098. From: Maciej Matyka <maq@opnt.optimus.wroc.pl>
  33099. To: AmigaPL <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  33100. Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 16:45:31 +0100
  33101. Message-ID: <yam7388.1576.2014626072@opnt.optimus.wroc.pl>
  33102. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  33103. Subject: SOK
  33104. MIME-Version: 1.0
  33105. Content-Type: text/plain
  33106.  
  33107.  
  33108. Potrzebuje jakies zdjecia/obrazki etc. o statusie pd, ktore moglbym uzyc w
  33109. artykule opisujacym historie komputera Amiga (do nieamigowej gazety). Jesli
  33110. ktos takie posiada (zdjecia Amig, reklamy AI, loga Amigi etc.) prosze o
  33111. kontakt na priv. Przed podeslaniem czegokolwiek, prosze mnie wczesniej
  33112. uprzedzic.
  33113.  
  33114. Z gory dzieki,
  33115.  
  33116. -- 
  33117. MaQ                                   mail: maq@opnt.optimus.wroc.pl
  33118.  
  33119. From owner-amigapl  Wed Mar 25 17:10:10 1998
  33120. Received: from butler.medianet.pl (root@butler.medianet.com.pl [195.116.184.2]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA11218 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 16:52:54 +0100 (MET)
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  33126.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 16:51:24 GMT
  33127. From: Artur Muszynski <amst@union.org.pl>
  33128. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  33129. Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 12:10:54 +0100
  33130. Message-ID: <yam7388.2739.122031296@mail.union.org.pl>
  33131. In-Reply-To: <yam7388.1464.2014838472@inet.com.pl>
  33132. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  33133. Organization: Union
  33134. Subject: Re: 4xIDE
  33135. MIME-Version: 1.0
  33136. X-ISO-CONVERTED: Yam_ISO2 1.05 (02.11.97) (c) Silver Dream !
  33137. X-YAMISO-UPDATE: ftp://wfmh.man.szczecin.pl/pub/yam_iso2/
  33138. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  33139. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  33140.  
  33141. On 25-Mar-98, Piotr Czerniawski wrote:
  33142. > Po 4 godzinach walki z adapterem 4xIDE skapitulowa=B3em. Wypr=F3bowa=B3=
  33143. em kilka
  33144. > wersji IDEFix'a i zawsze to samo ZWIECHA PRZY STARCIE SYSTEMU.
  33145.  
  33146. Wyrzu=E6 idefixa, atapi.device poradzi sobie bez niego. Tylko oba twarde =
  33147. musz=B1
  33148. by=E6 na kabelku primary.
  33149.  
  33150. -- =
  33151.  
  33152.  
  33153.    // Artur Muszynski (AMST/UNION) A4000/040/EGS
  33154.  \//  e-mail: amst@union.org.pl
  33155.  
  33156. From owner-amigapl  Wed Mar 25 17:10:17 1998
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  33160.       id QAA17195; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 16:41:01 +0100
  33161. From: At0m <at0m@friko.onet.pl>
  33162. To: konrad@amiga.media.pl,
  33163.         Lista dyskusyjna uzytkownikow komputera <amiga@plearn.edu.pl>,
  33164.         WFMH AmigaPL <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  33165. Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 16:42:02 -0000
  33166. Message-ID: <yam7388.116.2015440936@priv.onet.pl>
  33167. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  33168. Organization: Amiga Scene
  33169. Subject: Sprzedam blizzka IV
  33170. MIME-Version: 1.0
  33171. X-ISO-CONVERTED: Yam_ISO2 1.06 (17.11.97) (c) Silver Dream !
  33172. X-YAMISO-UPDATE: ftp://wfmh.org.pl/pub/yam_iso2/
  33173. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  33174. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  33175.  
  33176. W zwiazku z zakupem karty PPC mam do sprzedania
  33177. karte *Blizzard IV 030/50Mhz z koprocem* za powiedzmy 400 z=B3
  33178. Dla os=F3b z poza tr=F3jmiasta dojd=B1 jeszcze koszty przesy=B3ki.
  33179. -- =
  33180.  
  33181.     ,,,  ---------------------  ,,,
  33182.    (o.o) |  *AT0M / SUSPECT*   | (o.o)
  33183.    =A4(=3D)=A4 |     3D - GFX      | =A4(=3D)=A4
  33184.      +   |<at0m@priv.onet.pl>|   +
  33185.      ^   ---------------------   ^
  33186.           AmiScenePage Owner
  33187.       *www.kompit.com.pl/~joker*
  33188.  
  33189. From owner-amigapl  Wed Mar 25 19:09:47 1998
  33190. Received: from gryzmak.lodz.pdi.net (gryzmak.lodz.pdi.net [195.116.162.1]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA11738 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 19:06:48 +0100 (MET)
  33191. Received: (from arturp@localhost)
  33192.     by gryzmak.lodz.pdi.net (8.8.7/2.1.1/L) id TAA01838;
  33193.     Wed, 25 Mar 1998 19:04:25 +0100
  33194. Message-ID: <19980325190425.64103@plukwa.pdi.net>
  33195. Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 19:04:25 +0100
  33196. From: Artur Pietruk <arturp@plukwa.pdi.net>
  33197. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  33198. Subject: Re: klient maila
  33199. References: <Pine.GSO.3.95.980323222723.28331B-100000@student>
  33200. Mime-Version: 1.0
  33201. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
  33202. X-Mailer: Mutt 0.83
  33203. In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.3.95.980323222723.28331B-100000@student>; from Grzegorz Junka on Mon, Mar 23, 1998 at 10:31:13PM +0100
  33204.  
  33205. On Mon, Mar 23, 1998 at 10:31:13PM +0100, Grzegorz Junka wrote:
  33206. > 
  33207. > Czy tak jak jest ftpd, httpd, jest tez demon obslugi poczty elektronicznej
  33208. > na Amige? Przypuszczam, ze tak, chociaz chyba troche inaczej sie go
  33209. > obsluguje niz tamte. Chcialem sie spytac, jakie to programy i skad je
  33210. > mozna sciagnac (chodzi mi o obsluge smtp, nntp i podobne). chyba ze
  33211. > istnieje inny sposob by zmusic fetchmail (geekgadgets) do sciagania plikow
  33212. > z konta na Amige.
  33213.  
  33214.     Qmail -> geekgadgets -> ftp.ninemoons.com, albo mirror na ftp
  33215. plukwy.
  33216.  
  33217.     Pozdrawia:
  33218.  
  33219. -- 
  33220. -------------------------------------------------------------------
  33221. - Who  : Artur Pietruk - WebMaster @ PDi - www.pdi.net -      /// -
  33222. - Email: arturp@pdi.net IRC: APair TEL: +48 44 7140906 -     ///  -
  33223. - Snail: ul.11 listopada 33a/19 97-140 Koluszki POLAND - \\\///   -
  33224. - Using: AMIGA 4000/40 CV64-3D, A1240T                 -  \\//    -
  33225.  
  33226.         PGP public key - finger arturp@gryzmak.lodz.pdi.net
  33227.                 "My webpage exists - I've seen it!"
  33228. From owner-amigapl  Wed Mar 25 19:09:55 1998
  33229. Received: from gryzmak.lodz.pdi.net (gryzmak.lodz.pdi.net [195.116.162.1]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA11728 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 19:01:25 +0100 (MET)
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  33231.     by gryzmak.lodz.pdi.net (8.8.7/2.1.1/L) id SAA01499;
  33232.     Wed, 25 Mar 1998 18:59:01 +0100
  33233. Message-ID: <19980325185900.64857@plukwa.pdi.net>
  33234. Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 18:59:00 +0100
  33235. From: Artur Pietruk <arturp@plukwa.pdi.net>
  33236. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  33237. Cc: amiga@plearn.edu.pl
  33238. Subject: Re: Wstepniak w MA 3/98
  33239. References: <19980323180330.19610@plukwa.pdi.net> <yam7387.140.1748438104@kki.net.pl>
  33240. Mime-Version: 1.0
  33241. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
  33242. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
  33243. X-Mailer: Mutt 0.83
  33244. In-Reply-To: <yam7387.140.1748438104@kki.net.pl>; from Stefan Koralewski on Tue, Mar 24, 1998 at 01:06:03AM -0500
  33245.  
  33246. On Tue, Mar 24, 1998 at 01:06:03AM -0500, Stefan Koralewski wrote:
  33247. > ***Strona sklada sie w zasadzie z podkladu i tekstu, przy czym
  33248. > ***chcialbym zauwazyc ze podklady sa MOJEGO autorstwa, pochodza z Plukwy, i
  33249. > ***wydaje mi sie ze byc moze kulturalnie byloby sie zapytac mnie czy
  33250. > ***mozna uzyc grafiki wykonanej prze ze mnie gdzie indziej. Tymbardziej ze
  33251. > ***strona ta nie zawiera zadnej innej grafiki poza ta wykonana prze ze mnie.
  33252. > ***A niestety wsrod autorow strony nie zauwazylem swojego nazwiska, coz, moze
  33253. > ***to ja jestem pozbawiony kultury i nie powinienem nawet pisac tego listu.
  33254. > 
  33255. > Niniejszym przepraszam za fakt, iû podkîady uûyte zostaîy bez Twojej zgody.
  33256. > Jeûeli masz coô przeciwko temu, napisz. Podkîady zostanâ zdjëte.
  33257. > Jeûeli jednak zgadzasz sië na umieszczenie Twoich podkîadów i zamieszczenie 
  33258. > Twojego nazwiska ?, nicka ?, wôród autorów strony napisz równieû.
  33259.  
  33260.     Nie mam nic przeciwko samej stronie. Mam jednak cos przeciwko
  33261. umieszczeniu na tej stronie moich podkladow - zostaly one zrobione z mysla
  33262. o Plukwie i nie uwazam ze dobrym pomyslem bylo umieszczenie ich tam bez
  33263. mojej zgody.
  33264.  
  33265. > PS. Nie jesteô pozbawiony kultury, dziëki za uwagë, szkoda tylko, ûe byîa 
  33266. > ona tak kâôliwa. :(((
  33267.  
  33268.     A ja zaluje ze nie byla bardziej kasliwa, gdyz uwazam niestety ze
  33269. albo sobie jaja robicie, albo strugacie wariatow. Macie szczescie, ze
  33270. jestem opanowanym czlowiekiem.
  33271.  
  33272.     W *poniedzialek* spotkalem niejakiego dr chiry na irc. Rozmowa z
  33273. nim byla niezwylke ciekawym eksperymentem mistycznym :^). Pan chiry
  33274. opowiadal duzo "ciekawych" rzeczy - np. to ze jako Amigowiec nigdy w zyciu
  33275. nie widzial strony www Plukwy (Btw twoje stwierdzenie ze podklady wydawaly
  33276. sie tobie znajome jakos mnie tez nie przekonuje), a podklady wzial z
  33277. jakiejs plyty cd-rom. Co wiecej, nawet zaczal
  33278. puszczac teksty ze jak ja go smiem oskarzac o kradziez czy tez
  33279. wykorzystanie obrazkow bez zgody autora (czyli mojej). No coz, wiele tego
  33280. tam bylo, jesli ktos jest zainteresowany przebiegiem dyskusji badz nie
  33281. dowierza, sluze logiem z irc - choc w sumie nie wiem czy warto
  33282. meczyc sie i czytac wypowiedzi tego pana. W kazdym badz razie to ze
  33283. zamiast go rowno zbluznic probowalem delikatnie mu wyperswadowac swoje
  33284. stanowisko zawdziecza mojemu opanowaniu i temu, ze obiecal mi iz *JUTRO
  33285. RANO* zdejmie podklady. Chcialbym zauwazyc ze pisze te slowa w SRODE
  33286. WIECZOREM, wiec minely juz DWA DNI.
  33287.  
  33288.     Po za tym uslyszalem rowniez ze nie tylko obrazki na tej
  33289. stronie znalazly sie "przypadkiem" -kod html jest kradziony ze strony
  33290. zrobionej przez Konrada Bielskiego, umieszczono tekst pochodzacy z gazety
  33291. wyborczej bez zgody wydawcy, a MPS nic nie wie o tym jakoby zatwierdzal te
  33292. strone. No coz, w tej sytuacji znajdujaca sie na stronie lista jej chyba 6
  33293. autoruff wydaje sie smieszna - trzeba bylo az siedmiu ludzi, aby skleic
  33294. strone z ukradzionych elementow? Nie najlepiej to swiadczy o autorach
  33295. ;-)))
  33296.  
  33297.     BTW. Slyszalem od Rekina (Robert Redziak) ze rozmawial z toba i
  33298. tez strugales wariata.
  33299.  
  33300.     PS. Na razie jeszcze jestem opanowany...
  33301.  
  33302.     PS2. List przesylam tez na plearn, ale nie jestem zapisany na te
  33303. liste, wiec jesli ktos bedzie chcial ze mna dyskutowac, to bylo by milo
  33304. jesli dodalby mnie do CC:
  33305.  
  33306. -- 
  33307. -------------------------------------------------------------------
  33308. - Who  : Artur Pietruk - WebMaster @ PDi - www.pdi.net -      /// -
  33309. - Email: arturp@pdi.net IRC: APair TEL: +48 44 7140906 -     ///  -
  33310. - Snail: ul.11 listopada 33a/19 97-140 Koluszki POLAND - \\\///   -
  33311. - Using: AMIGA 4000/40 CV64-3D, A1240T                 -  \\//    -
  33312.  
  33313.         PGP public key - finger arturp@gryzmak.lodz.pdi.net
  33314.                 "My webpage exists - I've seen it!"
  33315. From owner-amigapl  Wed Mar 25 21:09:47 1998
  33316. Received: from r1.pam.szczecin.pl (r1.pam.szczecin.pl [194.92.202.33]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA12114 for <amigapl@wfmh.man.szczecin.pl>; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 21:00:28 +0100 (MET)
  33317. Received: from r1.pam.szczecin.pl by r1.pam.szczecin.pl (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4)
  33318.     id UAA18993; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 20:58:44 +0100
  33319. From: Andrzej Sobus <asob24@pam.szczecin.pl>
  33320. To: amigapl@wfmh.fiber.net.pl
  33321. Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 20:59:36 +0100
  33322. Message-ID: <yam7388.1806.19996968@r1.pam.szczecin.pl>
  33323. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  33324. MIME-Version: 1.0
  33325. Content-Type: text/plain
  33326.  
  33327. ADD amigapl asob24@r1.pam.szczecin.pl
  33328.  
  33329. From owner-amigapl  Wed Mar 25 21:09:58 1998
  33330. Received: from www.kki.net.pl (www.kki.net.pl [195.116.9.70]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA12098 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 20:56:53 +0100 (MET)
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  33333.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 20:56:07 +0100
  33334. From: Adam Majewski <akmmaya@kki.net.pl>
  33335. Reply-To: akmmaya@kki.net.pl
  33336. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  33337. Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 20:50:44 +0100
  33338. Message-ID: <yam7388.2202.1747856536@kki.net.pl>
  33339. In-Reply-To: <yam7388.2739.122031296@mail.union.org.pl>
  33340. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  33341. Subject: Re: 4xIDE
  33342. MIME-Version: 1.0
  33343. X-ISO-CONVERTED: Yam_ISO2 1.06 (17.11.97) (c) Silver Dream !
  33344. X-YAMISO-UPDATE: ftp://wfmh.org.pl/pub/yam_iso2/
  33345. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  33346. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  33347.  
  33348. Dnia 25-Mar-98, Artur Muszynski napisa=B3:
  33349.  
  33350. >On 25-Mar-98, Piotr Czerniawski wrote:
  33351. >> Po 4 godzinach walki z adapterem 4xIDE skapitulowa=B3em. Wypr=F3bowa=B3=
  33352. em kilka
  33353. >> wersji IDEFix'a i zawsze to samo ZWIECHA PRZY STARCIE SYSTEMU.
  33354.  
  33355. >Wyrzu=E6 idefixa, atapi.device poradzi sobie bez niego. Tylko oba twarde=
  33356.  musz=B1
  33357. >by=E6 na kabelku primary.
  33358.  
  33359. A czy kto=B6 to sprawdza=B3 z cd.device. Jest to dla mnie b. wa=BFne
  33360. poniewa=BF jeden twardziel le=BFy jak na razie od=B3ogiem :((((((,
  33361. a nie chcem rezygnowa=E6 z cd.device, bo ma on funkcje,
  33362. kt=F3rych nie posiada =BFaden inny device (chodzi o zgrywanie track=F3w
  33363. z cdda na twardziela :)
  33364.  
  33365.  
  33366. -- =
  33367.  
  33368. Pozdrawiam :-)
  33369.  
  33370. mailto: akmmaya@kki.net.pl
  33371. www: http://www.kki.net.pl/akmmaya
  33372.  
  33373. :-)  w=F3wren  eibos  juCP  ein  (-:
  33374.                                                            Adam Majewski
  33375.  
  33376. From owner-amigapl  Wed Mar 25 21:39:47 1998
  33377. Received: from merkury (merkury.piotrkow.tpsa.pl [194.204.159.4]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA12171 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 21:11:51 +0100 (MET)
  33378. Received: from amiga.org.pl by merkury (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4)
  33379.     id VAA04994; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 21:11:07 +0100
  33380. From: Krzysztof Michalski <karol@amiga.org.pl>
  33381. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  33382. Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 20:49:56 +0100
  33383. Message-ID: <yam7388.2831.18551184@www.tpnet.pl>
  33384. In-Reply-To: <Pine.HPP.3.95.980325101826.4648D-100000@zeus.polsl.gliwice.pl>
  33385. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  33386. Subject: Re: HDToolBox po raz kolejny
  33387. MIME-Version: 1.0
  33388. Content-Type: text/plain
  33389.  
  33390. On 25-Mar-98, Aleksander Salwa wrote:
  33391.  
  33392. >Czy istnieje dobra alternatywa dla HDToolBoxa, a jesli nie, to
  33393. >chyba ktos powinnien to w koncu napisac.
  33394.  
  33395. 1. SCSI Mounter
  33396. 2. HDInstTools
  33397. 3. RDPrep ?
  33398. -- 
  33399.          *Pozdrawiam wszystkich*
  33400.                                /Krzysztof Michalski/
  33401.                            #---------------------------#
  33402.                             mailto: *karol@amiga.org.pl*
  33403.  
  33404. --
  33405.  
  33406. From owner-amigapl  Wed Mar 25 23:09:51 1998
  33407. Received: from server.fiber.net.pl (server.fiber.net.pl [195.117.208.101]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA12417 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 22:50:45 +0100 (MET)
  33408. Received: from amiga.com.pl (pppb75.szczecin.tpnet.pl [195.205.239.75])
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  33410.           id AAA3892 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>;
  33411.           Wed, 25 Mar 1998 22:50:00 +0100
  33412. From: Miloslaw Smyk <thorgal@amiga.com.pl>
  33413. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  33414. Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 19:07:50 +0100
  33415. Message-ID: <yam7388.2509.139049240@fiber.net.pl>
  33416. In-Reply-To: <yam7388.1829.1747408336@kki.net.pl>
  33417. X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview3 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
  33418. Organization: W.F.M.H.
  33419. Subject: Re: Wstepniak w MA 3/98
  33420. MIME-Version: 1.0
  33421. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  33422. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  33423.  
  33424. Dnia 25-Mar-98, Stefan Koralewski rzek=B3 co nast=EApuje:
  33425.  
  33426. > Oki to kolejna uwaga ktora mysle ze nalezy rozwazyc.
  33427.  
  33428. B=B3agam, lista dyskusyjna to nie jest miejsce gdzie ceni si=EA tego rodz=
  33429. aju
  33430. g=B3o=B6ne my=B6lenie.
  33431.  
  33432. Mi=B3ek
  33433. Ps. Wiem, robi=EA si=EA bestialski, ale musz=EA si=EA rozgrza=E6 przed pr=
  33434. zej=EAciem
  33435. obowi=B1zk=F3w Admina. :)
  33436. -- =
  33437.  
  33438. mailto:thorgal@amiga.com.pl   |  "Man in the Moon and other weird things"=
  33439.  -
  33440. http://wfmh.org.pl/~thorgal/  |  see it at http://wfmh.org.pl/~thorgal/Mo=
  33441. on/
  33442.  
  33443. From owner-amigapl  Wed Mar 25 23:09:57 1998
  33444. Received: from hermes.telbank.pl (vena.telbank.PL [195.136.250.210]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA12458 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 23:02:09 +0100 (MET)
  33445. Received: from bptnet.pl ([195.136.250.23]) by hermes.telbank.pl
  33446.           (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2 release (PO205-101c)
  33447.           ID# 164-43612U3000L100S0) with SMTP id AAA163
  33448.           for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 23:04:25 +0100
  33449. From: "Marek Szymanski" <szymanski@bptnet.pl>
  33450. Reply-To: tagor@wfmh.org.pl
  33451. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  33452. Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 23:00:00 +0100
  33453. Message-ID: <yam7388.30.2020179728@vena.telbank.pl>
  33454. In-Reply-To: <yam7388.2202.1747856536@kki.net.pl>
  33455. X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview3 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
  33456. Organization: WFMH
  33457. Subject: Re[2]: 4xIDE
  33458. MIME-Version: 1.0
  33459. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  33460. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  33461.  
  33462. Cze=B6=E6 Adam,
  33463.  =
  33464.  
  33465. On 25-Mar-98, Adam Majewski wrote: =
  33466.  
  33467.  
  33468. > A czy kto=B6 to sprawdza=B3 z cd.device. Jest to dla mnie b. wa=BFne
  33469.  
  33470. Masz zapewne na my=B6li cd.device z pakietu PnP300?
  33471.  
  33472. > kt=F3rych nie posiada =BFaden inny device (chodzi o zgrywanie track=F3w=
  33473.  
  33474. > z cdda na twardziela :)
  33475. Wydaje mi si=EA, =BFe jest to przede wszystkim kwestia posiadania
  33476. odpowiedniego nap=EAdu. U mnie (Sony CDU57a x4) zgrywa=B3em tak=BFe z
  33477. atapi.device.
  33478.  
  33479. -- =
  33480.  
  33481. Marek SZYMANSKI  Team *AMIGA*
  33482.     mailto:tagor@wfmh.org.pl=
  33483.  
  33484. From owner-amigapl  Wed Mar 25 23:10:10 1998
  33485. Received: from server.fiber.net.pl (server.fiber.net.pl [195.117.208.101]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA12423 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 22:50:53 +0100 (MET)
  33486. Received: from amiga.com.pl (pppb75.szczecin.tpnet.pl [195.205.239.75])
  33487.           by server.fiber.net.pl (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with SMTP
  33488.           id AAE3892 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>;
  33489.           Wed, 25 Mar 1998 22:50:07 +0100
  33490. From: Miloslaw Smyk <thorgal@amiga.com.pl>
  33491. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  33492. Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 22:28:33 +0100
  33493. Message-ID: <yam7388.1700.139279944@fiber.net.pl>
  33494. In-Reply-To: <yam7388.1199.2016239472@zskl.p.lodz.pl>
  33495. X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview3 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
  33496. Organization: W.F.M.H.
  33497. Subject: Re: Paula vs SoundBlaster
  33498. MIME-Version: 1.0
  33499. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  33500. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  33501.  
  33502. Dnia 25-Mar-98, Grzegorz Kraszewski rzek=B3 co nast=EApuje:
  33503.  
  33504. > - AHI i wszystkie programy z niego korzystaj=B1ce maj=B1 mo=BFliwo=B6=E6=
  33505.  
  33506. indywidualnej
  33507. > kalibracji kana=B3=F3w 14-bitowych dla ka=BFdego egzemplarza Amigi (pro=
  33508. gram
  33509. > CyberSound). Kalibracja eliminuje nieliniowo=B6=E6 pzretwornika i wyr=F3=
  33510. wnuje
  33511. > charakterystyki kana=B3=F3w. Po czym=B6 takim amigowy kana=B3 14-bitowy=
  33512.  mo=BFe mie=E6
  33513. (i
  33514. > z regu=B3y ma) lepsze charakterystyki ni=BF 16-bitowy SoundBlaster.
  33515.  
  33516. Z drugiej jednak strony 14-bitowy sygna=B3 z Amigi jest bardzo cichy i s=B3=
  33517. abo
  33518. odstaje od szum=F3w t=B3a. Najlepiej, zamiast teoretyzowa=E6, postawi=E6 =
  33519. obie
  33520. maszyny obok siebie i zrobi=E6 test.
  33521.  
  33522. > - algorytmy miksuj=B1ce kana=B3y s=B1 o wiele lepsze np. w AHI ni=BF w =
  33523. kartach na
  33524. > pece (tylko najdro=BFsze karty na pece maj=B1 kana=B3y miksowane analog=
  33525. owo, w
  33526. > popularnych miksowanie jest cyfrowe tak jak w AHI)
  33527.  
  33528. A co takiego dobrego w miksowaniu analogowym?
  33529.  
  33530. Hej,
  33531. Mi=B3ek
  33532. -- =
  33533.  
  33534. mailto:thorgal@amiga.com.pl   |  "Man in the Moon and other weird things"=
  33535.  -
  33536. http://wfmh.org.pl/~thorgal/  |  see it at http://wfmh.org.pl/~thorgal/Mo=
  33537. on/
  33538.  
  33539. From owner-amigapl  Wed Mar 25 23:10:19 1998
  33540. Received: from server.fiber.net.pl (server.fiber.net.pl [195.117.208.101]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA12430 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 22:51:00 +0100 (MET)
  33541. Received: from amiga.com.pl (pppb75.szczecin.tpnet.pl [195.205.239.75])
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  33543.           id AAI3892 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>;
  33544.           Wed, 25 Mar 1998 22:50:15 +0100
  33545. From: Miloslaw Smyk <thorgal@amiga.com.pl>
  33546. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  33547. Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 22:46:36 +0100
  33548. Message-ID: <yam7388.1837.139279944@fiber.net.pl>
  33549. In-Reply-To: <yam7388.2756.120347728@priv.onet.pl>
  33550. X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview3 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
  33551. Organization: W.F.M.H.
  33552. Subject: Re: Magix
  33553. MIME-Version: 1.0
  33554. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  33555. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  33556.  
  33557. Dnia 25-Mar-98, Siera rzek=B3 co nast=EApuje:
  33558.  
  33559. > Ostatnio czesto w tv VIVA reklamuja taki pakiet muzyczny na pc ciekawi
  33560. mnie
  33561. > czy istnieje cos podobnego na Amige.
  33562. > Codzi glownie o odtwarzanie wielu sampli na raz z rozna glosnoscia i
  33563. innymu
  33564. > bajerami.
  33565.  
  33566. Jest. Nazywa si=EA SoundTracker, a autorem jest bodaj=BFe Karsten Obarski=
  33567. =2E :)
  33568. Cho=E6 DigiBooster lepszy.
  33569.  
  33570. Wszystko to mo=BFe mniej "multimedialne" od programu z PC, ale o ile=BF b=
  33571. ardziej
  33572. praktyczne.
  33573.  
  33574. Mi=B3ek
  33575. -- =
  33576.  
  33577. mailto:thorgal@amiga.com.pl   |  "Man in the Moon and other weird things"=
  33578.  -
  33579. http://wfmh.org.pl/~thorgal/  |  see it at http://wfmh.org.pl/~thorgal/Mo=
  33580. on/
  33581.  
  33582. From owner-amigapl  Wed Mar 25 23:10:25 1998
  33583. Received: from server.fiber.net.pl (server.fiber.net.pl [195.117.208.101]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA12425 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 22:50:55 +0100 (MET)
  33584. Received: from amiga.com.pl (pppb75.szczecin.tpnet.pl [195.205.239.75])
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  33587.           Wed, 25 Mar 1998 22:50:09 +0100
  33588. From: Miloslaw Smyk <thorgal@amiga.com.pl>
  33589. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  33590. Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 22:38:54 +0100
  33591. Message-ID: <yam7388.2749.139279944@fiber.net.pl>
  33592. In-Reply-To: <01BD57F3.D36C4700@ppp82.slupsk.tpnet.pl>
  33593. X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview3 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
  33594. Organization: W.F.M.H.
  33595. Subject: Re: Jak wymusic deklaracje zmiennych w CHIP RAM
  33596. MIME-Version: 1.0
  33597. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  33598. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  33599.  
  33600. Dnia 25-Mar-98, Piotr Hoppe rzek=B3 co nast=EApuje:
  33601.  
  33602. > Tworze pewna klase (do grafiki), w ktorej czes danych graficznych powin=
  33603. na =
  33604.  
  33605. > sie znalesc odrazu w CHIP'ie, narazie poradzilem sobie z uzyciem AllokM=
  33606. em
  33607. i =
  33608.  
  33609. > ComyMem, jednak powoduje to, ze dane niepotrzebnie pozostaja w pamieci =
  33610.  
  33611. > fast.
  33612.  
  33613. =AFaden wsp=F3=B3czesny program, za wyj=B1tkiem mega-cool-demoz nie powin=
  33614. ien nic
  33615. bezpo=B6rednio wpycha=E6 do CHIP-u. Na kartach graficznych spowalnia to s=
  33616. praw=EA,
  33617. a taki np. Draco w og=F3le nie ma CHIP-RAM-u.
  33618.  
  33619. > Czy ktos wie jak zrobic to inaczej?
  33620.  
  33621. Sugeruj=EA lektur=EA Autodoca graphics.library/AllocBitMap(). Ew. pytaj b=
  33622. ardziej
  33623. szczeg=F3=B3owo - tzn. jakie dane graficzne?
  33624.  
  33625. Hej,
  33626. Mi=B3ek
  33627. -- =
  33628.  
  33629. mailto:thorgal@amiga.com.pl   |  "Man in the Moon and other weird things"=
  33630.  -
  33631. http://wfmh.org.pl/~thorgal/  |  see it at http://wfmh.org.pl/~thorgal/Mo=
  33632. on/
  33633.  
  33634. From owner-amigapl  Wed Mar 25 23:39:56 1998
  33635. Received: from piast.pertus.com.pl (root@piast.pertus.com.pl [195.116.191.6]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA12584 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 23:37:36 +0100 (MET)
  33636. Received: from pertus.com.pl (JakeC@ppp185.legnica.tpnet.pl [195.116.255.185])
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  33638.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 23:40:54 +0100
  33639. From: Waldek "Jakec" Bulkowski <jakec@pertus.com.pl>
  33640. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  33641. Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 23:33:35 +0000
  33642. Message-ID: <yam7388.1768.1746486552@mail.pertus.com.pl>
  33643. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  33644. Subject: Quality JPG
  33645. MIME-Version: 1.0
  33646. Content-Type: text/plain
  33647.  
  33648. Hi!!!
  33649.  
  33650. Jak mozna stwierdzic z jaka wartoscia parametru quality zostal zapisany JPG?
  33651.  
  33652. 3mcie sie
  33653. -- 
  33654. Waldek "Jakec" Bulkowski
  33655.     A1200 i dodatki
  33656.       Nipson HQ
  33657.   jakec@pertus.com.pl
  33658. ***
  33659. Life is brutal & pelne pecetow :-(((
  33660. ***
  33661.  
  33662.  
  33663. From owner-amigapl  Thu Mar 26 04:39:48 1998
  33664. Received: from dns1.supermedia.pl (dns1.supermedia.pl [195.116.124.17]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id EAA15176 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 04:37:03 +0100 (MET)
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  33666. From: Peter Drapich <docent@union.org.pl>
  33667. Reply-To: Peter Drapich <docent@union.org.pl>
  33668. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  33669. Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 04:32:32 +0100
  33670. Message-ID: <yam7387.1644.138242216@mail.supermedia.pl>
  33671. In-Reply-To: <199803241812.TAA25561@arka.mtl.pl>
  33672. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  33673. Organization: Union Systems
  33674. Subject: Re: Odp: Odp: Odp: mUSASHI and AmigaOS
  33675. MIME-Version: 1.0
  33676. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
  33677. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  33678.  
  33679. On 23-Mar-98, Adam Zaparcinski wrote:
  33680. >A co do "bez jednego zwisu" to nie ca=B3kiem tak jest. Mo=BFe =BCle si=EA=
  33681.  wyrazi=B3em -
  33682. >program wiesza=B3 mi si=EA gdy co=B6 pomyli=B3em (tzn nie za ka=BFd=B1 p=
  33683. omy=B3k=B1 ale
  33684. czasem)
  33685. >ale nie mia=B3em du=BFych problem=F3w z wykryciem tych b=B3=EAd=F3w i ic=
  33686. h poprawieniem.
  33687. >Dlatego twierdz=EA, =BFe napisanie niewieszaj=B1cego si=EA programu jest=
  33688.  nietrudne bo
  33689. >IMHO wieszanie si=EA programu w trakcie jego tworzenia jest rzecz=B1 nor=
  33690. maln=B1 i
  33691. >niezale=BFn=B1 od platformy. Grunt, =BFeby te wszystkie b=B3=EAdy usun=B1=
  33692. =E6 i program nie
  33693. >wiesza=B3 si=EA w wersji ko=F1cowej.
  33694.  
  33695. Widac, ze nigdy nie pisales wiekszej ilosci kodu. Ja np. nie moge sobie
  33696. pozwolic
  33697. na czekanie az sie komputer zabootuje po kazdym zwisie, zaladuje edytor i=
  33698. tp
  33699. W przypdaku takiego bledu, testowany program powinien dac sie usunac z pa=
  33700. mieci
  33701. i pozwolic na kontynuacje bez problemu. Do tego ochrona pamieci jest
  33702. niezbedna.
  33703.  
  33704. >>Pozwolisz, ze sie wytlumacze z tych 5000 linii. W rzeczywistosci chodzi=
  33705.  mi
  33706. >>nie tyle o dlugosc, co o uzycie zaawansowanych opcji jezyka, takich jak=
  33707.  
  33708. >>dynamiczne przydzielanie pamieci i arytmetyka na wskaznikach (pewnie
  33709. >>niektorzy sie teraz usmiechaja widzac to "zaawansowanych" - ale tak na
  33710. >>dobra sprawe to te elementy sa zrodlem wiekszosci problemow). Uzycie te=
  33711. go
  33712. >>typu elementow na duza skale w programie majacym 1000 linii jest po pro=
  33713. stu
  33714. >>malo prawdopodobne, tym bardziej jezeli jest to program z GUI. 1000 lin=
  33715. ii
  33716. >>to rowniez na tyle malo, ze program mozna w calosci "objac umyslem".
  33717. >>Problemy zaczynaja sie, kiedy ma sie wiecej niz kilka-kilkanascie typow=
  33718.  
  33719. >>danych i funkcji - wtedy nie sposob juz o wszystkim pamietac. No, i
  33720. >>jeszcze jak na dodatek czlowiek sie z jakichs przyczyn spieszy, bo go k=
  33721. tos
  33722. >>tam pogania, to o bledy naprawde nietrudno.
  33723.  
  33724. >Po=B6piech jest rzecz=B1 ludzk=B1 i akurat AmigaOS nie jest temu winny (=
  33725. a od niego
  33726. >zacz=EA=B3a si=EA dyskusja) natomiast zgadzam si=EA, =BFe du=BFe projekt=
  33727. y s=B1 potencjalnym
  33728. >=BCr=F3d=B3em zwis=F3w itp. Ale to te=BF jest problem programisty a nie =
  33729. systemu.
  33730.  
  33731. Oczywiscie, ze systemu, ktory nie gwarantuje bezpiecznej pracy po ew. zwi=
  33732. sie.
  33733. Np mnie ostatnio wkurza cprppc, ktory wali sie tak czesto, ze debugowanie=
  33734.  
  33735. programu
  33736. na ppc nie jest w ogole mozliwe. Mimo cyberguarda itp tooli w pamieci, ma=
  33737. szyna
  33738. sie resetuje. Gdyby byla ochrona pamieci, z reguly byloby to wylapane bez=
  33739.  
  33740. szkod albo
  33741. chociaz jakies dodatkowe informacje bm mial. A tak, reset i kupa.
  33742.  
  33743. Docent
  33744. --
  33745. Dyslexics of the world, UNTIE!
  33746.  
  33747. From owner-amigapl  Thu Mar 26 08:09:48 1998
  33748. Received: from student.man.radom.pl (student.man.radom.pl [194.181.239.26]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA15433 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 08:00:45 +0100 (MET)
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  33751.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 07:59:15 +0100
  33752. Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 07:59:14 +0100 (MET)
  33753. From: Kudla Michal <miko@student.man.radom.pl>
  33754. To: amigapl@amiga.com.pl
  33755. Subject: Struktura AmigaOSu
  33756. Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.980326075718.321C-100000@student.man.radom.pl>
  33757. MIME-Version: 1.0
  33758. Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
  33759. Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE
  33760.  
  33761.  
  33762. M=F3j kumpel ma temat na "Multimediach" budowa systemu AmigaOS. Prosz=EA w =
  33763. jego
  33764. imieniu o odpowied=BC na pytania:
  33765. Co to jest i do czego s=B3u=BF=B1:
  33766. -handlery,
  33767. -device,
  33768. -taski,
  33769. -procesy,
  33770. -resources,
  33771. -library ( :-) ), Wiem, =BFe to =B6mieszne, ale prosz=EA o fachowe i zwi=EA=
  33772. z=B3e
  33773. odpowiedzi. Jako programer wiem co to jest i do czego s=B3u=BFy, ale mo=BFe
  33774. istniej=B1 dla tych hase=B3 jakie=B6 regu=B3ki?
  33775. >>--------------------------------------------------------
  33776.  Micha=B3 Kud=B3a ( AMIGA programmer C++ (systemowiec) )
  33777.  *o   o o o   o   o   *    A1200/020/14MHz/8Mb/CD
  33778.  *o o o   o o   o   o *    mailto: #miko#@kiux.man.radom.pl
  33779.  *o   o o o   o o   o *        or  #miko#@student.man.radom.pl
  33780.  *o   o o o   o   o   *    http://student.man.radom.pl/~miko
  33781.  Realizuj=EA pewien projekt programu. Zapraszam na stron=EA.
  33782. >>--------------------------------------------------------
  33783.  
  33784. From owner-amigapl  Thu Mar 26 08:09:59 1998
  33785. Received: from student.man.radom.pl (student.man.radom.pl [194.181.239.26]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA15413 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 07:57:45 +0100 (MET)
  33786. Received: from localhost (miko@localhost)
  33787.     by student.man.radom.pl (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id HAA00329
  33788.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 07:56:05 +0100
  33789. Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 07:56:03 +0100 (MET)
  33790. From: Kudla Michal <miko@student.man.radom.pl>
  33791. To: amigapl@amiga.com.pl
  33792. Subject: Re: HDEnv ...
  33793. Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.980326075435.321A-100000@student.man.radom.pl>
  33794. MIME-Version: 1.0
  33795. Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
  33796. Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE
  33797.  
  33798. Dnia 20 Mar 1998 LeWaR napisa=B3
  33799. >Co s=B1dzicie o #istnieniu# takich program=F3w jak HDEnv i jemu podobnych?
  33800.  
  33801. Nie b=EAd=EA si=EA rozpisywa=B3 jak ja to robi=EA. Zaraz wyra=BF=EA swoj=B1=
  33802.  opini=EA.
  33803. Uwa=BFam, =BFe takiego typu programy s=B1 =B3atk=B1 na bug systemu. Od syst=
  33804. emu
  33805. 3.0 istnieje poleconko #ASSIGN# fonts: work: fonty #ADD# Powoduje ono
  33806. przypisanie jakiego=B6 katalogu do kt=F3rego mo=BFemy si=EA odwo=B3ywa=E6 j=
  33807. ak do
  33808. jakiego=B6 urz=B1dzenia. Je=B6li istnia=B3o ju=BF takie przypisanie w syste=
  33809. mie
  33810. to by=B3o ono zast=EApowane nowym. Dzi=EAki parametrowi #ADD# system dodaje
  33811. now=B1 =B6cie=BFk=EA do istniej=B1cego przypisania. Je=B6li teraz szukamy j=
  33812. akiego=B6
  33813. pliku  w naszym przypisaniu to system stara si=EA go odnale=BC=E6
  33814. w pierwszym przypisaniu. W przypadku pora=BFki szuka w nast=EApnych
  33815. przypisanych =B6cie=BFkach. Mechanizm ten pozwala nam na wi=EAkszy porz=B1d=
  33816. ek
  33817. na HD...#(ko=F1cz=EA)# M=F3j pomys=B3 mia=B3 wykorzystywa=E6 t=EA cudown=B1=
  33818.  cech=EA!
  33819. Podczas startu systemu nic nie kopiujemy tylko robimy odpowiednie
  33820. przypisanie:
  33821.  
  33822. Assign ENV: Ram:env
  33823. Assign ENV: ENVARC: ADD
  33824.  
  33825. I wszystko powinno dzia=B3a=E6 - chwilowe ustawienia powinny l=B1dowa=E6 do
  33826. ramu a przy nieudanym odczycie ustawie=F1 z ramu akcja szukania powinna
  33827. przebiega=E6 w ENVARCu!!! Czy=BF nie mam racji??? Napisa=B3em wi=EAc progra=
  33828. mik
  33829. do pachowania open () lecz chyba system z niego nie korzysta przy
  33830. odczycie ENVa. Zdissasemblowaa=B3em IPrefsa (przest=EApstwo - wiem)
  33831. i odwo=B3ania do open nie znalaz=B3em. To s=B1 moje (ju=BF zako=F1czone) bo=
  33832. je
  33833. z ENVem. Podda=B3em si=EA. Temat si=EA pojawi=B3 wi=EAc m=F3j g=B3os.
  33834.  
  33835. >Pytanie z kr=EAgu podchwytliwych, ale napiszcie.
  33836.  
  33837. Pytanie raczej retoryczne - takich program=F3w by=E6 nie powinno!
  33838.  
  33839. >>--------------------------------------------------------
  33840.  Micha=B3 Kud=B3a ( AMIGA programmer C++ (systemowiec) )
  33841.  *o   o o o   o   o   *    A1200/020/14MHz/8Mb/CD
  33842.  *o o o   o o   o   o *    mailto: #miko#@kiux.man.radom.pl
  33843.  *o   o o o   o o   o *        or  #miko#@student.man.radom.pl
  33844.  *o   o o o   o   o   *    http://student.man.radom.pl/~miko
  33845.  Realizuj=EA pewien projekt programu. Zapraszam na stron=EA.
  33846. >>--------------------------------------------------------
  33847.  
  33848. From owner-amigapl  Thu Mar 26 08:10:06 1998
  33849. Received: from student.man.radom.pl (student.man.radom.pl [194.181.239.26]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA15415 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 07:58:51 +0100 (MET)
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  33852.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 07:57:16 +0100
  33853. Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 07:57:15 +0100 (MET)
  33854. From: Kudla Michal <miko@student.man.radom.pl>
  33855. To: amigapl@amiga.com.pl
  33856. Subject: Rodzina PowerPC
  33857. Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.980326075610.321B-100000@student.man.radom.pl>
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  33861.  
  33862. Nadszed=B3 czas na PPC. Ludzie kupuj=B1 =F3w procki i s=B3usznie, a ja kupi=
  33863. =B3em
  33864. sobie ksi=B1=BFk=EA o rodzinie PowerPC. Podejrzewam, =BFe s=B1 ludzie na li=
  33865. =B6cie,
  33866. kt=F3rym mog=EA co nieco opowiedzie=E6 o nim.
  33867.  
  33868. Jest to podrasowany RISC. RISC to pokr=F3tce: 1) zredukowana lista
  33869. rozkaz=F3w podzielona na rozkazy operuj=B1ce na pami=EAci (Load/Store)
  33870. i rozkazy arytmetyczne dzia=B3aj=B1ce jedynie na du=BFej liczbie
  33871. uniwersalnych rejestr=F3w, 2) rozkazy s=B1 wykonywane sprz=EAtowo ( w CISCu
  33872. s=B1 realizowane mikroprogramowo).
  33873.  
  33874. Historia PowerPC rozpoczyna si=EA od porozumienia trzech firm IBM,
  33875. Motorola i Aplle w roku 1991. Ju=BF po roku =B6wiat=B3o dzienne ujrza=B3
  33876. pierwszy okaza=B3y okaz PowerPC 601 (nazwa IBMa) lub MPC601 (co=B6 jak
  33877. MC680x0 czyli nazwa Motoroli) z zegarem 60MHz. I nasta=B3a wrzawa wok=F3=B3
  33878. niego, =BFe wyprze Pentiuma, =BFe powstan=B1 nowe komputery PC. Co to
  33879. powodowa=B3o? Zawarte porozumienie pozwoli=B3o stworzy=E6 rozszerzon=B1 lis=
  33880. t=EA
  33881. rozkaz=F3w procesora, k=B3ad=B1c nacisk na jej optymalizacje pod k=B1tem pr=
  33882. ogram=F3w
  33883. kompilowanych przez j=EAzyki wysokiego poziomy (np. C++), ustalono jednolit=
  33884. y=20
  33885. rozmiar rozkazu (32 bity) co zapewni=B3o prostot=EA, szybko=B6=E6 (potokowo=
  33886. =B6=E6,
  33887. skalarno=B6=E6). =D3w lista ma obowi=B1zywa=E6 dla ca=B3ej rodziny PowerPC,=
  33888.  tak
  33889. wi=EAc program napisany pod MPC603 powinien ruszy=E6 pod 64 bitowym
  33890. MPC620.
  33891.  
  33892. Apetyt ro=B6nie? Podam teraz podzia=B3 jego rozkaz=F3w. Gotowi?
  33893. =B7 Rozkazy sta=B3oprzecinkowe,
  33894.   - rozkazy arytmetyki sta=B3oprzecinkowej,
  33895.   - rozkazy por=F3wnania liczb ca=B3kowitych,
  33896.   - rozkazy operacji logicznych,
  33897.   - rozkazy przesuni=EA=E6 zwyk=B3ych i cyklicznych,
  33898. =B7 Rozkazy zmiennoprzecinkowe,
  33899.   - rozkazy arytmetyczne,
  33900.   - rozkazy =B3=B1czonego mno=BFenia i dodawania (dualne),>cztery argumenty=
  33901. ,
  33902.   - rozkazy zaokr=B1glania i konwersji,
  33903.   - rozkazy por=F3wnania zmiennoprzecinkowego,
  33904.   - rozkazy steruj=B1ce,
  33905. =B7 Rozkazy komunikacji z pami=EAci=B1
  33906.   - rozkazy =B3adowania sta=B3oprzecinkowego,
  33907.   - rozkazy zapami=EAtywania sta=B3oprzecinkowego,
  33908.   - rozkazy =B3adowania i zapami=EAtywania sta=B3oprzecinkowego z rewersj=
  33909. =B1 bajt=F3w,
  33910.   - rozkazy wielokrotnego =B3adowania i zapami=EAtywania sta=B3oprzecinkowe=
  33911. go,
  33912.   - rozkazy =B3adowania zmiennoprzecinkowego,
  33913.   - rozkazy zapami=EAtywania zmiennoprzecinkowego,
  33914.   - rozkazy przenoszenia zmiennoprzecinkowego,
  33915.   - rozkazy synchronizacji dost=EApu do pami=EAci,
  33916. =B7 Rozkazy zmieniaj=B1ce kolejno=B6=E6 wykonywania rozkaz=F3w,
  33917.   - skoki wzgl=EAdne,
  33918.   - skoki absolutne,
  33919.   - skoki warunkowe wzgl=EAdne,
  33920.   - skoki warunkowe absolutne,
  33921.   - skoki warunkowe ze =B6ladem (link register),
  33922.   - skoki warunkowe z licznikiem (count register).
  33923.  
  33924. Jak dla mnie - Bomba. Procek MPC604 ma sze=B6=E6 jednostek
  33925. przetwarzaj=B1cych (w tym trzy sta=B3oprzecinkowe). Umo=BFliwia pobieranie
  33926. czterech i ko=F1czenie sze=B6ciu rozkaz=F3w w jednym takcie zegarowym!
  33927. Adresuj=B1c pos=B3uguje si=EA 52 bitowym (!) adresem wirtualnym. PowerPC
  33928. wspomaga ochron=EA pami=EAci, stronicowanie jej na wiele sposob=F3w,
  33929. odwo=B3ania do systemu operacyjnego, wyj=B1tki,... System komputerowy
  33930. oparty na tym procku z systemem operacyjnym wykorzystuj=B1cym jego
  33931. mo=BFliwo=B6ci, koprocem dla grafiki, d=BCwi=EAku, po=B3=B1czone to z UMA c=
  33932. zy
  33933. czym=B6 podobnym i sprz=EAt mo=BFe konkurowa=E6 z Amig=B1 z czas=F3w Minera=
  33934. =2E
  33935. Konstrukcje takie ju=BF powsta=B3y: Be/Box, A/Box. Be/Box zrobi=B3 nawet
  33936. niez=B3e zamieszanie w =B6wiatku komputerowym ale brak=B3o mu u=BFytkownik=
  33937. =F3w.
  33938. Fajne ma okienka, inne ni=BF przyj=EAte za standard - belka tytu=B3owa
  33939. zajmuje tylko tyle aby zmie=B6ci=E6 tytu=B3 - nie=BCle co?  Dobra ko=F1cz=
  33940. =EA.
  33941. M=F3dlmy si=EA tylko po cichu aby nasz nowy OS jak najwi=EAcej wzi=B1=B3 z =
  33942. tego
  33943. procka czego Wam i sobie szczerze =BFycz=EA. =AFyczmy sobie smacznego.
  33944.  
  33945. Literatura
  33946. 1. Zdzis=B3aw Pogoda: Mikroprocesory RISC rodziny PowerPC. Wydawnictwo
  33947. Pracowni Komputerowej Jacka Skalmierskiego. Gliwice 1995.
  33948. 2. Prasa kompterowa.
  33949.  
  33950. Mo=BFe autor nie =B6cignie mnie za wykorzystanie jego pracy. Osobi=B6cie po=
  33951. lecam
  33952. t=EA ksi=EAg=EA. Jest bardzo przyst=EApna.
  33953. >>--------------------------------------------------------
  33954.  Micha=B3 Kud=B3a ( AMIGA programmer C++ (systemowiec) )
  33955.  *o   o o o   o   o   *    A1200/020/14MHz/8Mb/CD
  33956.  *o o o   o o   o   o *    mailto: #miko#@kiux.man.radom.pl
  33957.  *o   o o o   o o   o *        or  #miko#@student.man.radom.pl
  33958.  *o   o o o   o   o   *    http://student.man.radom.pl/~miko
  33959.  Realizuj=EA pewien projekt programu. Zapraszam na stron=EA.
  33960. >>--------------------------------------------------------
  33961.  
  33962. From owner-amigapl  Thu Mar 26 08:10:14 1998
  33963. Received: from www.kki.net.pl (www.kki.net.pl [195.116.9.70]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA15411 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 07:57:09 +0100 (MET)
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  33969. X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32)
  33970. Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 07:54:50 +0000
  33971. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  33972. From: Waldemar Lamek <lamex@kki.net.pl>
  33973. Subject: Re: Re[2]: 4xIDE
  33974. In-Reply-To: <yam7388.30.2020179728@vena.telbank.pl>
  33975. References: <yam7388.2202.1747856536@kki.net.pl>
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  33979.  
  33980. Hi.
  33981.  
  33982. >Wydaje mi si=EA, =BFe jest to przede wszystkim kwestia posiadania
  33983. >odpowiedniego nap=EAdu. U mnie (Sony CDU57a x4) zgrywa=B3em tak=BFe z
  33984. >atapi.device.
  33985.  
  33986. Czy mam rozumiec, ze jesli posiada sie rozgaleznik na 4 urzadzenia to mozna
  33987. podlaczyc dwa dyski na pierwszy kanal, a na drugi CD-Rom. Ale jesli mam
  33988. zainstalowany AFS, to czy takze bedzie chodzic?
  33989.  
  33990.  
  33991.                                                pozdrawiam,
  33992.                                                      Waldek
  33993. .oO LAMEX SOFTWARE LTD. Oo.
  33994.  E/BoX 1240/40CV64/3D 18MB=20
  33995.  e-mail:  lamex@kki.net.pl
  33996. From owner-amigapl  Thu Mar 26 08:10:20 1998
  33997. Received: from student.man.radom.pl (student.man.radom.pl [194.181.239.26]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA15435 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 08:01:58 +0100 (MET)
  33998. Received: from localhost (miko@localhost)
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  34000.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 08:00:28 +0100
  34001. Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 08:00:27 +0100 (MET)
  34002. From: Kudla Michal <miko@student.man.radom.pl>
  34003. To: amigapl@amiga.com.pl
  34004. Subject: Re: mUSASHI...
  34005. Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.980326075929.321D-100000@student.man.radom.pl>
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  34009.  
  34010. On 21 Mar 1998 Tomasz Muszynski wrote:
  34011.  
  34012. >Jak napiszesz program kt=F3ry ma 30000 linii to mo=BFemy porozmawia=E6
  34013. >o zwisach,bledach itp. Moj GadToolsBox v3 ma obecnie 27659 (w tym
  34014. >5914 jest wygenerowane) linii kodu, czyli 37 plikow + inkludy ktorych
  34015. >nie doliczalem i problemy zaczynaja sie pojawiac. Troche trudno jest
  34016. >przy tej ilosci kodu opanowac wszystkie przypadki braku pamieci, jej
  34017. >prawidlowego zwalniania, itp
  34018.  
  34019. Nie pierwszym i raczej nie ostatnim jeste=B6, kt=F3ry ma takie problemy.
  34020. Stworzono wi=EAc j=EAzyk C++, kt=F3ry jest bardzo podobny do C, jest
  34021. "objectowo zorj=EAtowany". J=EAzyk ten posiada o wiele wi=EAcej cech
  34022. wspomagaj=B1cych pisanie du=BFych program=F3w od projektowania poprzez
  34023. rozbudow=EA a=BF do piel=EAgnacji. Cechy te pozwalaj=B1 zrzyci=E6
  34024. odpowiedzialno=B6=E6 na kompilator, np. mechanizm "zdobywanie zasob=F3w
  34025. poprzez inicjaj=EA". Nie pisz=EA, =BFe to jedyne wyj=B6cie, mo=BFna to spok=
  34026. ojnie
  34027. zrobi=E6 w ka=BFdym innym j=EAzyku programowania, kt=F3ry ma dost=EAp do
  34028. systemu, czyli mechanizm BOOPSI. Dzi=EAkuj=EA
  34029.  
  34030. *P.S.* Troszk=EA narozrabia=B3em z tym "mUSASHI". Mo=BFe by tak ju=BF zmien=
  34031. i=E6
  34032. subject list=F3w? Swoje ju=BF wycierpia=B3. Scena Amigowa jest RULEZ i niec=
  34033. h
  34034. tak=B1 pozostanie.
  34035.  
  34036. >>--------------------------------------------------------
  34037.  Micha=B3 Kud=B3a ( AMIGA programmer C++ (systemowiec) )
  34038.  *o   o o o   o   o   *    A1200/020/14MHz/8Mb/CD
  34039.  *o o o   o o   o   o *    mailto: #miko#@kiux.man.radom.pl
  34040.  *o   o o o   o o   o *        or  #miko#@student.man.radom.pl
  34041.  *o   o o o   o   o   *    http://student.man.radom.pl/~miko
  34042.  Realizuj=EA pewien projekt programu. Zapraszam na stron=EA.
  34043. >>--------------------------------------------------------
  34044.  
  34045. From owner-amigapl  Thu Mar 26 08:39:48 1998
  34046. Received: from www.kki.net.pl (www.kki.net.pl [195.116.9.70]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA15496 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 08:09:51 +0100 (MET)
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  34051. From: "Marcin Soko³owski" <600user@kki.net.pl>
  34052. To: "AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi" <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  34053. Subject: Odp: Odp: Odp: Odp: mUSASHI and AmigaOS
  34054. Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 08:01:21 +0100
  34055. X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
  34056. X-Priority: 3
  34057. X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161
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  34061.  
  34062. Czesc !
  34063.  
  34064. Pozwolcie, ze wtrace swoje 3 grosze....bo chyba IMHO mylicie troszke =
  34065. pojecia...
  34066.  
  34067. >Widac, ze nigdy nie pisales wiekszej ilosci kodu. Ja np. nie moge sobie
  34068. >pozwolic
  34069. >na czekanie az sie komputer zabootuje po kazdym zwisie, zaladuje edytor =
  34070. itp
  34071. >W przypdaku takiego bledu, testowany program powinien dac sie usunac z =
  34072. pamieci
  34073. >i pozwolic na kontynuacje bez problemu. Do tego ochrona pamieci jest
  34074. >niezbedna.
  34075.  
  34076. Przepraszam, ale jak ma sie ochrona pamieci do usuwania programu z =
  34077. pamieci ?
  34078. Raczej potrzebne tu jest sledzenie zasobow - co G95 posiada...ale do =
  34079. tego sa potrzebne z kolei silne konfiguracje procesorowe.
  34080. Ochrona pamieci - a raczej jej brak jest tu zatem tylko *przyczyna* =
  34081. powstawania bledu, zas *metoda* jego eliminacji - to sledzenie zasobow =
  34082. (a wiec i mozliwosc usuwania zawieszonego tasku - czyli *skutku*) :)))
  34083. Projektanci AmigaOSu chyba dobrze wiedzieli, na co sie decydowali nie =
  34084. wprowadzajac ani sledzenia zasobow (dzieki czemu nasz Oesik moze =
  34085. pracowac na procesorach slabej *sorry* mocy), ani ochrony pamieci (ARexx =
  34086. rulez ...). Dlaczego wszyscy uwazaja, ze brak ochrony pamieci to wada =
  34087. Amigi ? Przeciez taki stan rzeczy ma tez swoje zalety - na piecu nikt =
  34088. nie moze sterowac poprzez jeden programik drugim programikiem... =
  34089. Przyklad ? Moze sie myle, ale LW i Modeler - aktualizacja obiektu =
  34090. zrobionego w Modelerze od razu w Layout'cie.... Nastepny przyklad - =
  34091. Arexx....
  34092. ----------------------
  34093. Marcin "XMS" Soko=B3owski Amiga FAN ForEver
  34094. http://www.complex.com.pl/~zbylu/xms/xms001.html
  34095. A4k/18/1.2/Merlin4/15"/CD16, A600/020/882/10/KCS/1084S
  34096. 600user@kki.net.pl
  34097.  
  34098. From owner-amigapl  Thu Mar 26 08:39:56 1998
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  34103. Message-Id: <199803260708.IAA04781@www.kki.net.pl>
  34104. From: "Marcin Soko³owski" <600user@kki.net.pl>
  34105. To: "AmigaPL-WFMH" <amigapl@wfmh.fiber.net.pl>
  34106. Subject: *** Linux na Amidze ***
  34107. Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 07:16:01 +0100
  34108. X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
  34109. X-Priority: 3
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  34114.  
  34115. Czesc !
  34116.  
  34117. Mam propozycje - dla kogo tylko, to juz inna sprawa :)
  34118. Otoz moglby ktos sciagnac wszystkie wersje Linuxa (nie wiem, ile ich =
  34119. jest) i wydac na CD jako Shareware Linux Pack czy cos w tym stylu. Moze =
  34120. jedna wersja zainteresowalby sie MA i wydal dodatkowy kompakcik ?
  34121. Chetnie bym dal 20-30 zl za takie linuxowe kompilacje (w sensie =
  34122. skladanki) :)
  34123.  
  34124. Pozdrawiam !
  34125. ----------------------
  34126. Marcin "XMS" Soko=B3owski Amiga FAN ForEver
  34127. http://www.complex.com.pl/~zbylu/xms/xms001.html
  34128. A4k/18/1.2/Merlin4/15"/CD16, A600/020/882/10/KCS/1084S
  34129. 600user@kki.net.pl
  34130. From owner-amigapl  Thu Mar 26 09:39:55 1998
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  34133. Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 09:15:09 +0100
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  34135. X-Sender: kaczus@kki.net.pl
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  34139. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  34140. From: Tomasz Kaczanowski <kaczus@kki.net.pl>
  34141. Subject: Re: Odp: Odp: Odp: mUSASHI and AmigaOS
  34142.  
  34143. At 04:32 98-03-24 +0100, you wrote:
  34144. >Widac, ze nigdy nie pisales wiekszej ilosci kodu. Ja np. nie moge sobie
  34145. >pozwolic
  34146. >na czekanie az sie komputer zabootuje po kazdym zwisie, zaladuje edytor itp
  34147. >W przypdaku takiego bledu, testowany program powinien dac sie usunac z pamieci
  34148. >i pozwolic na kontynuacje bez problemu. Do tego ochrona pamieci jest
  34149. >niezbedna.
  34150.  
  34151. Gdybys uzyl programowania obiektowego, to wiekszosc bledow ze zwalnianiem
  34152. pamieci moglbys zwalic na kompilator, a fakt, ze Ci sie zle pisze ...
  34153. Moim zdaniem komputer powinien byc dla uzytkownika, a nie dla wygody
  34154. programisty - tym wlasnie rozni sie Amiga od PC (przynajmniej do niedawna), ze
  34155. to byl komputer dla uzytkownikow .... Dzieki temu mozesz sobie do woli dzis 
  34156. uzywac roznego rodzaju patchy bez koniecznosci przekompilowywania jadra
  34157. systemu. Zauwaz, ze czesc bibliotek Amigowych jest w ROMie i aktualizacja
  34158. ich - to jedynie wymiana ROMu, a tak mozesz bez problemow spatchowac
  34159. niepodobajaca Ci sie funkcje (czyli cos jak w obiektowce:))
  34160.  
  34161. Kaczus of 2*[Bla]
  34162.  
  34163. From owner-amigapl  Thu Mar 26 10:39:49 1998
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  34169.           Thu, 26 Mar 1998 10:34:13 +0100
  34170. From: Marcin Orlowski <carlos@wfmh.org.pl>
  34171. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  34172. Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 10:28:36 +0100
  34173. Message-ID: <yam7389.1848.143063984@server.fiber.net.pl>
  34174. In-Reply-To: <01bd5802$344296c0$fdfefe01@mk>
  34175. X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 beta10 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
  34176. Organization: W.F.M.H.   (http://wfmh.org.pl)
  34177. Subject: Re: PPC do A1200
  34178. MIME-Version: 1.0
  34179. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  34180. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  34181.  
  34182. Dnia 25-Mar-98, Wojciech Kocjan napisa=B3:
  34183.  
  34184. > niech przynajmniej tego s=B3owa dotrzymuje. A z reszt=B1 na samej stron=
  34185. ie fazy
  34186. > pisa=B3o (zaraz po wypuszczeniu PPC to A1200), =BFe maj=B1 zamiar uwzgl=
  34187. =EAdni=E6 karty
  34188.  
  34189. Przypomn=EA, =BFe rozmawiali=B6my o MarkTomie (i innych ma=B3ych firmach)=
  34190. =2E
  34191.  
  34192. > To podaj mi chocia=BF jeden logiczny pow=F3d, dla kt=F3rego mia=B3bym k=
  34193. upi=E6 za ponad
  34194. > 11 baniek (bez procesora 68040 - za=B3=F3=BFmy, =BFe postanowi=EA strac=
  34195. i=E6) 603? W
  34196.  
  34197. A od kiedy to si=EA kieruje logik=B1 przy zakupie osprz=EAtu do zabawki? =
  34198. Przecie=BF
  34199. nie od dzi=B6 p=B3acimy jak za zbo=BFe.
  34200.  
  34201. > por=F3wnaniu z badziewnym pentium ii owy 603 (por=F3wnuj=B1c procki o t=
  34202. ych samych
  34203. > cz=EAstotliwo=B6ciach) nie wypada najlepiej. Mam piecyka i wiem, jak "c=
  34204. udnie"
  34205. > chodzi w95 a i 98. Dlatego pozostaj=EA przy Amidze. Ale mimo wszystko n=
  34206. ie
  34207. > kupi=EA procka 603.
  34208.  
  34209. Przecie=BF nie b=EAd=EA Ci=EA namawia=B3. Nie chcesz to nie, Twoja sprawa=
  34210. =2E
  34211.  =
  34212.  
  34213. > Mia=B3em na my=B6li fakt, =BFe 603 nie jest najnowszym procesorem. Phas=
  34214. e5 mog=B3o
  34215.  
  34216. 68k r=F3wnie=BF nie. I co z tego? =
  34217.  
  34218.  
  34219. > przynajmniej ujednolici=E6 amigi i zrobi=E6 same karty z 604 (i przy ok=
  34220. azji z 4
  34221. > podstawkami SIMM).
  34222.  
  34223. I sprzedawa=E6 w zestawie m=B3otkiem i przecinakiem, =BFeby=B6 sobie m=F3=
  34224. g=B3 to nog=B1
  34225. wcisn=B1=E6 pod klapk=EA.
  34226.  
  34227. >> Zaraz, zaraz. Czy=BFby=B6 zatem oczekiwa=B3 tabun=F3w ch=EAtnych, kt=F3=
  34228. rzy Ci b=EAd=B1
  34229. >> do tego dop=B3aca=E6?
  34230. > Nie spodziewam si=EA. Ale to co napisa=B3em wy=BFej - po co mi to obiec=
  34231. ywano?
  34232.  
  34233. My=B6la=B3em, =BFe ju=BF wszyscy si=EA skutecznie wyleczyli z wiary w faz=
  34234. owane
  34235. obecanki.
  34236.  
  34237. > Oczywiste jest, =BFe nikt nie b=EAdzie dop=B3aca=B3 do tego, =BFeby prz=
  34238. ej=B6=E6 na PPC.
  34239.  
  34240. Nie b=EAdzie dop=B3aca=B3 Tobie. To r=F3=BFnica. Ja, dla Twojej, informac=
  34241. ji wyj=B1=B3em
  34242. 060 z karty 2060, kt=F3ra le=BFy teraz sobie i si=EA kurzy (BTW: mo=BFe k=
  34243. to=B6 jest
  34244. zainteresowany?), ale nie =BFal=EA si=EA z tego powodu publicznie. P=F3ki=
  34245.  na
  34246. Gieldzie pojawiaj=B1 si=EA og=B3oszenia ch=EAtnych na appola i inne, to w=
  34247.  zasadzie
  34248. nie wiem po co to zamieszanie.
  34249.  
  34250. > Ale je=B6li =BFaden u=BFytkownik Apolla nie b=EAdzie mia=B3 szans na up=
  34251. grade do PPC,
  34252. > to wielu da sobie spok=F3j z PPC lub przejdzie na PC albo Maki. I prosz=
  34253. =EA bez
  34254. > odpowiedzi w stylu to przejd=BC sobie na tego PeCeta, bo i tak go mam, =
  34255. a o
  34256. > maku coraz bardziej my=B6l=EA - wkr=F3tce b=EAd=EA mia=B3 wyniki z AIBB=
  34257.  na UAE z maka z
  34258. > prockiem G3, jak kogo=B6 interesuje to na priva.
  34259.  
  34260. Pliz, nie schod=BCmy poni=BFej pewnego poziomu. Na takie "argumenty" to m=
  34261. i
  34262. si=EA nawet nie chce odpisywa=E6.
  34263.  
  34264. > A Blizzard taki idealny te=BF nie jest. Na przyk=B3ad jak mia=B3em Bliz=
  34265. zard-IV
  34266. > 030/50MHz
  34267. > i 8MB RAMu to jakim=B6 cudem SAS/C si=EA wiesza=B3 i musia=B3em go prze=
  34268. rabia=E6
  34269. > PowerPackerem,
  34270. > aby nie =B3adowa=B3 si=EA do fastu (pp, bo wtedy nie zna=B3em innego pr=
  34271. ogramu do
  34272. > tego). Nie obchodzi mnie dlaczego,
  34273.  
  34274. A powinno. R=F3wnie dobrze SAS m=F3g=B3 by=E6 uszkodzony albo co innego (=
  34275. np SIMM
  34276. walni=EAty), wi=EAc takie zwalanie na Blizarda po to, by by=B3o "po r=F3w=
  34277. no"
  34278. nie maj=B1c =BFadnych podstaw jest po prostu troch=EA bez sensu.
  34279.  
  34280. > kupi=B3em 16-tk=EA EDO), ale jak dla mnie chodzi dobrze. A to si=EA lic=
  34281. zy dla
  34282. > przeci=EAtnego u=BFytkownika, nie? A poza tym s=B1 troch=EA szybsze - o=
  34283.  2-3% chyba,
  34284. > ale zawsze co=B6 :)
  34285.  
  34286. To jak jest w ko=F1cu - 040/40 czybsze o 2% ni=BF inne 040/40 to pow=F3d =
  34287. do rado=B6ci
  34288. a PPC szybsze ni=BF oba 040 razem to ju=BF "be"?
  34289.  
  34290.  
  34291. Pozwol=EA sobie przypomnie=E6, i=BF dyskusja tyczy=B3a si=EA tematu ko=F1=
  34292. cowych
  34293. dystrybutor=F3w, kt=F3rzy nie chc=B1 (bo nie musz=B1 - przyk=B3ad Apple =B6=
  34294. rednio
  34295. na miejscu) skupowa=E6 Appolluf i innych kart przy zakupie PPC. Zboczyli=B6=
  34296. my
  34297. ju=BF chyba za daleko od tematu, wi=EAc sugeruje EOT.
  34298.  =
  34299.  
  34300. -- =
  34301.  
  34302.  My software never has bugs. It just develops random features.
  34303.  
  34304.  Marcin                              http://wfmh.org.pl/~carlos/
  34305.                                        mailto:carlos@wfmh.org.pl
  34306.  
  34307.  
  34308. From owner-amigapl  Thu Mar 26 10:40:04 1998
  34309. Received: from server.fiber.net.pl (server.fiber.net.pl [195.117.208.101]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA15926 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 10:35:02 +0100 (MET)
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  34314.           Thu, 26 Mar 1998 10:34:11 +0100
  34315. From: Marcin Orlowski <carlos@wfmh.org.pl>
  34316. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  34317. Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 10:26:35 +0100
  34318. Message-ID: <yam7389.1764.143063984@server.fiber.net.pl>
  34319. In-Reply-To: <yam7388.2394.1747444432@kki.net.pl>
  34320. X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 beta10 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
  34321. Organization: W.F.M.H.   (http://wfmh.org.pl)
  34322. Subject: Re: Odp: 14" vs 15"
  34323. MIME-Version: 1.0
  34324. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  34325. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  34326.  
  34327. Dnia 25-Mar-98, Stefan Koralewski napisa=B3:
  34328.  
  34329. > Panowie kupujcie monitory SVGA do Amig !!! dopiero wtedy system Amigi
  34330. > nabiera powa=BFnego wygl=B1du
  34331.  
  34332. I majestatu (z 2 x wolniejsza grafika na Agacie w trybach w/w etc.) ;-(
  34333.  
  34334. -- =
  34335.  
  34336.  My software never has bugs. It just develops random features.
  34337.  
  34338.  Marcin                              http://wfmh.org.pl/~carlos/
  34339.                                        mailto:carlos@wfmh.org.pl
  34340.  
  34341.  
  34342. From owner-amigapl  Thu Mar 26 10:40:37 1998
  34343. Received: from silter.silesia.top.pl (silter.silesia.top.pl [195.117.67.3]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA15880 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 10:30:17 +0100 (MET)
  34344. Received: from ppp-wct11.katowice.tpnet.pl (yoyo@ppp-wct11.katowice.tpnet.pl [194.204.181.11])
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  34346.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 10:29:04 +0100 (CET)
  34347. Date: 26 Mar 98 10:25:38 +0100
  34348. From: "Grzegorz Juraszek" <yoyo@silesia.top.pl>
  34349. Subject: Re: mUSASHI and AmigaOS
  34350. To: "AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi" <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  34351. In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.3.95.980325154013.127B-100000@ernie>
  34352. Message-ID: <1448.389T1904T6252576@silesia.top.pl>
  34353. MIME-Version: 1.0
  34354. Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  34355. Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
  34356. X-Mailer: THOR 2.5 (Amiga;TCP/IP) *UNREGISTERED*
  34357.  
  34358. Hello Kamil Iskra, on 25-Mar-98    15:47:31 you wrote:
  34359.  
  34360. >Oczekiwania uzytkownikow sa jednak inne. Szarego uzytkownika nie obchodzi,
  34361. >jezeli mu sie system powiedzmy ze dwa razy dziennie wylozy - reset i po
  34362. >krzyku. Czytalem np. niedawno, ze w powaznej ankiecie przeprowadzonej na
  34363. >uzytkownikach PC w USA wyszlo, ze cos dobrze ponad 50% z nich, chyba kolo
  34364. >70%, jest bardzo zadowolonych ze swoich komputerow, z tego co one potrafia
  34365. >i oferuja. Oczywiscie w ogromnej wiekszosci te komputery maja
  34366. >zainstalowane W95. Tak wiec uzytkownikom nie przeszkadza, ze sie
  34367. >komputer wiesza - ustawia sie autosave w edytorze raz na 1 min i juz.
  34368.  
  34369. To nie ca³kiem tak. Szary u¿ytkownik nie ma pojêci±, ¿e w ogóle mo¿e byæ
  34370. inaczej, to znaczy mo¿na u¿ywaæ komputera bez ci±g³ych problemów z
  34371. systemem, ze sterownikami, itp. Przecie¿ obecnie komputer=pecet+W95 dla
  34372. co najmniej 90% ludzi. Ludzie s± zadowoleni, bo nie maj± skali
  34373. porównawczej, nie wiedz±, ¿e mog³oby byæ lepiej. Dla wiêkszo¶ci laików
  34374. komputer to wci±¿ magiczne pude³ko, skomplikowane ponad mo¿liwo¶æ
  34375. zrozumienia. Cokolwiek Wintel stwierdza w swoich reklamach, przyjmowane
  34376. jest przez nich za prawdê. To taki niewidzialny system totalitarny.
  34377.  
  34378. --
  34379.    Grzegorz Juraszek * Yoyo^Twilight * Amiga user * AIRI & ATO PL member
  34380.        mailto:yoyo@silesia.top.pl * http://www.silesia.top.pl/~yoyo
  34381. --
  34382.              "Let the truth be known though the heavens fall"
  34383.                     Agent Mulder * The X-Files * Redux
  34384.  
  34385. From owner-amigapl  Thu Mar 26 11:09:53 1998
  34386. Received: from plukwa.pdi.net (robert@plukwa.pdi.net [195.116.162.7]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA16086 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 11:09:06 +0100 (MET)
  34387. Received: (qmail 2037328376 invoked by uid 531); 26 Mar 1998 11:10:44 -0000
  34388. Message-ID: <19980326111040.17261@plukwa.pdi.net>
  34389. Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 11:10:40 +0000
  34390. From: Robert Ramiega <robert@plukwa.pdi.net>
  34391. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  34392. Subject: Re: *** Linux na Amidze ***
  34393. References: <199803260708.IAA04781@www.kki.net.pl>
  34394. Mime-Version: 1.0
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  34399.  =?iso-8859-2?Q?rom_Marcin_Soko=B3owski_on_Thu=2C_Mar_26=2C_1998_at_07=3A?=
  34400.  =?iso-8859-2?Q?16=3A01AM_+0100?=
  34401. Organization: PDi Ltd, Lodz, PL
  34402. X-Personal: PlukwaZone Owner
  34403. X-PGP-fingerprint: BB 1F 6D 5F CF AF 5A 67  E3 0C EA 68 E4 7F 74 B1
  34404.  
  34405. On Thu, Mar 26, 1998 at 07:16:01AM +0100, Marcin Soko=B3owski wrote:
  34406. > Czesc !
  34407. >=20
  34408. > Mam propozycje - dla kogo tylko, to juz inna sprawa :)
  34409. > Otoz moglby ktos sciagnac wszystkie wersje Linuxa (nie wiem, ile ich jest=
  34410. ) i wydac na CD jako Shareware Linux Pack czy cos w tym stylu. Moze jedna w=
  34411. ersja zainteresowalby sie MA i wydal dodatkowy kompakcik ?
  34412.  Mam wrazenie, ze na jednym sie nie zmiesci. Zarowno RH jak i Debian sa
  34413. dosc duze (po ok 400+MB) na dodatek sposob dystrybucji Debiana wymaga by na
  34414. CD byly rowniez zrodla.
  34415.  Co do tego kto moglby to zrobic to redakcja L+ szuka pomyslow na zawartosc
  34416. nastepnych CD-Romow =3Do)
  34417.  Kamil sie zastanawial jakie wersje obu dystrybucji sa dostepne. Otoz w obu
  34418. przypadkach sa to wersje niestabilne dystrybucji. Dla m68k-RH jest oparte o
  34419. zrodla RH 5.0, m68k-Debian to odpowiednik 2.0
  34420.  
  34421.  
  34422. --=20
  34423.  Robert Ramiega     | robert@pdi.net  IRC: _Jedi_ | Don't underestimate=20
  34424.  Plukwa Zone Owner  | http://plukwa.pdi.net/      | the power of Source
  34425. From owner-amigapl  Thu Mar 26 11:39:58 1998
  34426. Received: from Jan.mat.uni.torun.pl (jan.mat.uni.torun.pl [158.75.2.13]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA16124 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 11:16:19 +0100 (MET)
  34427. Received: (from zap@localhost)
  34428.     by Jan.mat.uni.torun.pl (8.8.8/8.8.7) id LAA25425
  34429.     for amigapl@amiga.com.pl; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 11:13:57 +0100 (MET)
  34430. From: Marek Wierzbinski <zap@mat.uni.torun.pl>
  34431. Message-Id: <199803261013.LAA25425@Jan.mat.uni.torun.pl>
  34432. Subject: Re: *** Linux na Amidze ***
  34433. In-Reply-To: <199803260708.IAA04781@www.kki.net.pl> from =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Marcin_Soko=B3owski?= at "Mar 26, 98 07:16:01 am"
  34434. To: amigapl@amiga.com.pl
  34435. Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 11:13:57 +0100 (MET)
  34436. X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL28 (25)]
  34437. MIME-Version: 1.0
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  34439. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
  34440.  
  34441. > Czesc !
  34442. > 
  34443. > Mam propozycje - dla kogo tylko, to juz inna sprawa :)
  34444. > Otoz moglby ktos sciagnac wszystkie wersje Linuxa (nie wiem, ile ich jest) i wydac na CD jako Shareware Linux Pack czy cos w tym stylu. Moze jedna wersja zainteresowalby sie MA i wydal dodatkowy kompakcik ?
  34445. > Chetnie bym dal 20-30 zl za takie linuxowe kompilacje (w sensie skladanki) :)
  34446.  
  34447. Hmmm...a czy byloby wiecej zainteresowanych ?
  34448. Swego czasu mialem postawionego Watchtowera, potem NetBSD, a teraz
  34449. mam RedHata (do tego zostaje Debian, LinuxPPC - co prawda wersja
  34450. "beta" i pewnie duzo sie trzeba przy niej napracowac, zreszta i tak
  34451. wszystko sie nie zmiesci na jedenj plytce)  , 
  34452. nagrywarke mam, sciagniecie dystrybucji Linuxa to nie
  34453. problem, kwestia czy byloby wiecej chetnych osob na taka skladanke ?
  34454.  
  34455.  
  34456. -- 
  34457. Marek
  34458. zap@mat.uni.torun.pl
  34459. From owner-amigapl  Thu Mar 26 12:40:09 1998
  34460. Received: from student.uci.agh.edu.pl (ramix@student.uci.agh.edu.pl [149.156.98.60]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA16294 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 12:39:27 +0100 (MET)
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  34462.        id MAA00885 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 12:38:50 +0100 (MET)
  34463. Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 12:38:48 +0100 (MET)
  34464. From: Grzegorz Junka <ramix@student.uci.agh.edu.pl>
  34465. X-Sender: ramix@student
  34466. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  34467. Subject: Re: *** Linux na Amidze ***
  34468. In-Reply-To: <199803260708.IAA04781@www.kki.net.pl>
  34469. Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.95.980326123613.23444A-100000@student>
  34470. MIME-Version: 1.0
  34471. Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-2
  34472. Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE
  34473.  
  34474. On Thu, 26 Mar 1998, Marcin Soko=B3owski wrote:
  34475.  
  34476. > Mam propozycje - dla kogo tylko, to juz inna sprawa :)
  34477. > Otoz moglby ktos sciagnac wszystkie wersje Linuxa (nie wiem, ile ich jest=
  34478. ) i wydac na CD jako Shareware Linux Pack czy cos w tym stylu. Moze jedna w=
  34479. ersja zainteresowalby sie MA i wydal dodatkowy kompakcik ?
  34480. > Chetnie bym dal 20-30 zl za takie linuxowe kompilacje (w sensie skladanki=
  34481. ) :)
  34482.  
  34483. Ja bez problemu moge sciagnac nawet 600mb softwareu z sieci. Problem tylko
  34484. w tym, czy ktos bedzie chetny to na MACD, ACSCover lub MACover zamiescic.
  34485. No i pozwolenie od tego kto te instalacje udostepnia, na publikacje tego
  34486. na jakims krazku. Bo wydawanie tego na jakims osobnym krazku bedzie raczej
  34487. nieoplacalne.
  34488.  
  34489. --
  34490. ,x80Y^"=09Member of Amiga Promotion Group and fanatic AMIGA user
  34491. $0+'=09=09=09Grzegorz Junka "Bastian"
  34492. 08=09piccolo@ibm.uci.agh.edu.pl=09bastian@apg.plukwa.pdi.net
  34493. 0'
  34494. 9=09A1200Inf 040/40Bliz 32Mb 1.6Gb 12x 1942S CN40BC
  34495.  
  34496. From owner-amigapl  Thu Mar 26 13:09:55 1998
  34497. Received: from iftia6.univ.gda.pl (iftia6.univ.gda.pl [153.19.6.6]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA16338 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 12:58:30 +0100 (MET)
  34498. Received: from ppp163b.gdansk.tpnet.pl by iftia6.univ.gda.pl with SMTP
  34499.     (1.38.193.4/16.2) id AA06571; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 13:08:50 +0100
  34500. From: Marcin Ostrowski <amizaur@box43.gnet.pl>
  34501. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  34502. Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 12:29:10 +0100
  34503. Message-Id: <yam7388.502.5729464@iftia6.univ.gda.pl>
  34504. In-Reply-To: <Pine.HPP.3.95.980325101826.4648D-100000@zeus.polsl.gliwice.pl>
  34505. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  34506. Subject: Re: HDToolBox po raz kolejny
  34507. Mime-Version: 1.0
  34508. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  34509. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  34510.  
  34511. Dnia 25-Mar-98, Aleksander Salwa napisa=EE:
  34512.  
  34513. >Ponazekajmy jeszcze raz... ;)
  34514.  
  34515. >Kiedys mialem problemy z plikem walnietym przy wylaczeniu zasilania
  34516. >podczas zapisu, wpisalem wiec klopotliwy blok do listy BadBlock'ow w
  34517. >HDTB.
  34518. >W miedzyczasie przepartycjonowywalem dysk, formatowalem ta partycje
  34519. >(PELNY format) - zadnych problemow.  Pomyslalem wiec sobie, zeby ten
  34520. >BadBlock usunac. I tu jest problem - usuwam z listy (wiecej ich nie
  34521. >mam!),
  34522. >klikam 'Save Changes To Drive', i HDToolBox sie wiesza, dioda HDD sie
  34523. >swieci...  Na razie zrezygnowalem, bo mi to nie przeszkadza.
  34524.  
  34525. Wylacz MCP... =
  34526.  
  34527.  
  34528. No i ewentualne DiskSafe itp.
  34529.  
  34530.  
  34531. -- =
  34532.  
  34533.  
  34534.                              Marcin Ostrowski
  34535.                        A1200/030/882/28/10Mb/170Mb
  34536.                           High-Radiation C1085S
  34537.                                modem 28800
  34538.  
  34539.  
  34540.                                     mailto:amizaur@box43.gnet.pl
  34541.  
  34542. From owner-amigapl  Thu Mar 26 14:09:56 1998
  34543. Received: from friko.onet.pl (friko.onet.pl [194.204.191.9]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA16440 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 13:41:40 +0100 (MET)
  34544. Received: from friko.onet.pl (ppp34.zgora.tpnet.pl [195.116.244.34])
  34545.           by friko.onet.pl (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP
  34546.       id NAA27005 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 13:35:37 +0100
  34547. From: Irek <irekm@friko.onet.pl>
  34548. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  34549. Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 14:21:46 -0500
  34550. Message-ID: <yam7389.2323.3214040@friko.onet.pl>
  34551. In-Reply-To: <199803261013.LAA25425@Jan.mat.uni.torun.pl>
  34552. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.3a [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  34553. Subject: Re: *** Linux na Amidze ***
  34554. MIME-Version: 1.0
  34555. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  34556. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  34557.  
  34558. Dnia 26-Mar-98, Marek Wierzbinski napisa=EE:
  34559.  
  34560. >Hmmm...a czy byloby wiecej zainteresowanych ?
  34561. Jestem za!
  34562.  
  34563. >Swego czasu mialem postawionego Watchtowera, potem NetBSD, a teraz
  34564. >mam RedHata (do tego zostaje Debian, LinuxPPC - co prawda wersja
  34565. >"beta" i pewnie duzo sie trzeba przy niej napracowac, zreszta i tak
  34566. >wszystko sie nie zmiesci na jedenj plytce)  , =
  34567.  
  34568. >nagrywarke mam, sciagniecie dystrybucji Linuxa to nie
  34569. >problem, kwestia czy byloby wiecej chetnych osob na taka skladanke ?
  34570. Na pewno, trzeba by tylko wybra=E6 wersje ktore na pewno dadz=B1 si=EA
  34571. zainstalowa=E6 i b=EAd=B1 chodzi=E6 (bez wi=EAkszych k=B3opot=F3w ;)
  34572.  
  34573.  
  34574. -- =
  34575.  
  34576. e-mail: irekm@friko.onet.pl      __
  34577. e-mail: irekm@kki.net.pl        // \   HTTP: on prepare
  34578. *Easy work?   - on Amiga*         \__          A1k2+850MB+4MB+CDx8+28800
  34579. *Best system? - on Amiga*            \
  34580. *BIG TROUBLE? - on PC...*         \_// NOWMAN - Amiga Fan 4ever !
  34581.  
  34582. From owner-amigapl  Thu Mar 26 14:39:49 1998
  34583. Received: from butler.medianet.pl (root@butler.medianet.com.pl [195.116.184.2]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA16523 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 14:28:14 +0100 (MET)
  34584. Received: from mail.union.org.pl (virtual.medianet.pl [195.116.184.254])
  34585.     by butler.medianet.pl (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA00427
  34586.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 14:28:33 +0100 (MET)
  34587. Received: from union.org.pl (dial-20.medianet.pl [195.116.185.20])
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  34589.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 14:27:34 GMT
  34590. From: Artur Muszynski <amst@union.org.pl>
  34591. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  34592. Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 14:12:58 +0100
  34593. Message-ID: <yam7389.2904.122394040@mail.union.org.pl>
  34594. In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.3.95.980326075929.321D-100000@student.man.radom.pl>
  34595. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  34596. Organization: Union
  34597. Subject: Re: O C++ i zwisach.
  34598. MIME-Version: 1.0
  34599. X-ISO-CONVERTED: Yam_ISO2 1.05 (02.11.97) (c) Silver Dream !
  34600. X-YAMISO-UPDATE: ftp://wfmh.man.szczecin.pl/pub/yam_iso2/
  34601. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  34602. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  34603.  
  34604. On 26-Mar-98, Kudla Michal wrote:
  34605. > On 21 Mar 1998 Tomasz Muszynski wrote:
  34606.  
  34607. > >Jak napiszesz program kt=F3ry ma 30000 linii to mo=BFemy porozmawia=E6=
  34608.  
  34609. > >o zwisach,bledach itp.
  34610. > Nie pierwszym i raczej nie ostatnim jeste=B6, kt=F3ry ma takie problemy=
  34611. =2E
  34612. > Stworzono wi=E6c j=E6zyk C++, kt=F3ry jest bardzo podobny do C, jest
  34613. > "objectowo zorj=E6towany".
  34614. [reszt=EA wyk=B3adu wyci=B1=B3em]
  34615.  
  34616. Micha=B3, =B6mieszny jeste=B6 - tyle ci powiem.
  34617.  
  34618. Pozdrawiam,
  34619.  
  34620. --
  34621.  
  34622.    // Artur Muszynski (AMST/UNION) A4000/040/EGS
  34623.  \//  e-mail: amst@union.org.pl
  34624.  
  34625. From owner-amigapl  Thu Mar 26 14:39:57 1998
  34626. Received: from butler.medianet.pl (root@butler.medianet.com.pl [195.116.184.2]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA16525 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 14:28:16 +0100 (MET)
  34627. Received: from mail.union.org.pl (virtual.medianet.pl [195.116.184.254])
  34628.     by butler.medianet.pl (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA00422
  34629.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 14:28:31 +0100 (MET)
  34630. Received: from union.org.pl (dial-20.medianet.pl [195.116.185.20])
  34631.     by mail.union.org.pl (8.8.6/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA32515
  34632.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 14:27:33 GMT
  34633. From: Artur Muszynski <amst@union.org.pl>
  34634. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  34635. Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 14:13:48 +0100
  34636. Message-ID: <yam7389.2423.122394040@mail.union.org.pl>
  34637. In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.3.95.980326075610.321B-100000@student.man.radom.pl>
  34638. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  34639. Organization: Union
  34640. Subject: Re: Rodzina PowerPC
  34641. MIME-Version: 1.0
  34642. X-ISO-CONVERTED: Yam_ISO2 1.05 (02.11.97) (c) Silver Dream !
  34643. X-YAMISO-UPDATE: ftp://wfmh.man.szczecin.pl/pub/yam_iso2/
  34644. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  34645. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  34646.  
  34647. On 26-Mar-98, Kudla Michal wrote:
  34648. > Nadszed=B3 czas na PPC. Ludzie kupuj=B1 =F3w procki i s=B3usznie, a ja =
  34649. kupi=B3em
  34650. > sobie ksi=B1=BFk=E6 o rodzinie PowerPC. Podejrzewam, =BFe s=B1 ludzie n=
  34651. a li=B6cie,
  34652. > kt=F3rym mog=E6 co nieco opowiedzie=E6 o nim.
  34653.  
  34654. No =B6wietnie, tylko =BFe lista dyskusyjna, jak sama nazwa wskazuje, s=B3=
  34655. u=BFy do
  34656. prowadzenia dyskusji, a nie wyg=B3aszania referat=F3w.
  34657.  
  34658. PS: Zr=F3b co=B6 z polskimi literkami.
  34659.  
  34660. -- =
  34661.  
  34662.  
  34663.    // Artur Muszynski (AMST/UNION) A4000/040/EGS
  34664.  \//  e-mail: amst@union.org.pl
  34665.  
  34666. From owner-amigapl  Thu Mar 26 14:40:12 1998
  34667. Received: from uucp.polbox.com.pl (root@uucp.polbox.com.pl [195.116.5.3]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA16510 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 14:13:53 +0100 (MET)
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  34669. From: =?iso-8859-2?Q?Pawe=B3?= =?iso-8859-2?Q?Paw=B3aszek?= <idson@free.polbox.pl>
  34670. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  34671. Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 18:19:59 -0500
  34672. Message-ID: <yam7386.2969.121396576@smtp.polbox.pl>
  34673. In-Reply-To: <yam7372.1580.120462816@priv.onet.pl>
  34674. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  34675. Subject: Re: 25MHz =>> 40MHz
  34676. MIME-Version: 1.0
  34677. X-ISO-CONVERTED: Yam_ISO2 1.06 (17.11.97) (c) Silver Dream !
  34678. X-YAMISO-UPDATE: ftp://wfmh.org.pl/pub/yam_iso2/
  34679. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  34680. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  34681.  
  34682. On 09-Mar-98, Siera wrote:
  34683. >Hi,
  34684. >Czy ktos moze probowal takiego eksperymentu jak wymiana kwarcu 25Mhz (50=
  34685. MHz)
  34686. >na 40 MHz(80MHz). chodzi o plyte A3640 rew3.1
  34687.  
  34688. Ja zrobi=B3em. Chodzi ponad p=F3=B3 roku. Bez problemu. Jak chcesz czego=B6=
  34689.  wi=EAcej
  34690. to na priv.
  34691.  
  34692. Narazicho.
  34693. -- =
  34694.  
  34695. Pawe=B3 Paw=B3aszek idson@free.polbox.pl =
  34696.  
  34697. A4000/40/40/16/1.2/x2/17"/CV3D+SD/33.6/HP
  34698. Amiga Owner since '91  <Amiga - "Carpe Diem">=
  34699.  
  34700. From owner-amigapl  Thu Mar 26 14:40:27 1998
  34701. Received: from www.kki.net.pl (www.kki.net.pl [195.116.9.70]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA16516 for <amigapl@wfmh.fiber.net.pl>; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 14:19:47 +0100 (MET)
  34702. Received: from kki.net.pl (ppp9.zgora.tpnet.pl [195.116.244.9])
  34703.     by www.kki.net.pl (8.8.7/8.8.7.ver6) with SMTP id OAA14900
  34704.     for <amigapl@wfmh.man.szczecin.pl>; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 14:18:42 +0100
  34705. From: Irek <irekm@kki.net.pl>
  34706. Reply-To: Irek <irekm@kki.net.pl>
  34707. To: Lista AMIGAPL WFMH <amigapl@wfmh.fiber.net.pl>
  34708. Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 14:59:00 -0500
  34709. Message-ID: <yam7389.33.2691944@kki.net.pl>
  34710. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.3a [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  34711. Subject: PPC soft
  34712. MIME-Version: 1.0
  34713. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  34714. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  34715.  
  34716. Witam!
  34717.  
  34718. W zwi=B1zku z przewijaj=B1cym si=EA tematem umieszczenia Linuxa na CD dla=
  34719.  Amy,
  34720. mam inn=B1, mo=BFe mniejsz=B1 ale chyba te=BF po=BFyteczn=B1 propozycj=EA=
  34721. :
  34722. czy nie mo=BFnaby stworzy=E6 na jednym z najbli=BFszych CDk=F3w MA katalo=
  34723. gu
  34724. np. /PPC/ , w kt=F3rym by=B3by soft pod ten procesor (mog=B3yby znale=BC=E6=
  34725.  si=EA
  34726. tam r=F3=BFne patche, programy i biblioteki, kt=F3re ukaza=B3y si=EA do t=
  34727. ej
  34728. pory i wykorzystuj=B1 Powera).
  34729. My=B6l=EA, =BFe z czasem jak ludzie b=EAd=B1 kupowa=E6 PPC to b=EAdzie wi=
  34730. =EAcej softu
  34731. og=F3lnie dost=EApnego (Aminet), ale dzisiaj to trzeba go szuka=E6 po
  34732. sieci lub innych "przygodnych" kontaktach...
  34733.  
  34734. W=B3a=B6nie dzisiaj dzwoni=B3em do MARKTOMU, i go=B6ciu mnie pocieszy=B3,=
  34735.  =BFe
  34736. nie tak szybko b=EAdzie mo=BFna kupi=E6 PPC bo maj=B1 bardzo du=BFo zam=F3=
  34737. wie=F1 !!!
  34738. To jest buduj=B1ce i pocieszaj=B1ce :)))))
  34739.  
  34740. Hej!
  34741. -- =
  34742.  
  34743. e-mail: irekm@friko.onet.pl      __
  34744. e-mail: irekm@kki.net.pl        // \   HTTP: on prepare
  34745. *Easy work?   - on Amiga*         \__          A1k2+850MB+4MB+CDx8+28800
  34746. *Best system? - on Amiga*            \
  34747. *BIG TROUBLE? - on PC...*         \_// NOWMAN - Amiga Fan 4ever !
  34748.  
  34749. From owner-amigapl  Thu Mar 26 15:39:49 1998
  34750. Received: from ernie.icslab.agh.edu.pl (kiskra@ernie.icslab.agh.edu.pl [149.156.98.14]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA16650 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 15:33:25 +0100 (MET)
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  34752.        id PAA24880 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 15:31:33 +0100 (MET)
  34753. Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 15:31:32 +0100 (MET)
  34754. From: Kamil Iskra <kiskra@ernie.icslab.agh.edu.pl>
  34755. X-Sender: kiskra@ernie
  34756. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  34757. Subject: Re: Wstepniak w MA 3/98
  34758. In-Reply-To: <yam7388.2400.141887408@mail.union.org.pl>
  34759. Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.95.980326152638.23966A-100000@ernie>
  34760. MIME-Version: 1.0
  34761. Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
  34762.  
  34763. On Wed, 25 Mar 1998, Konrad Bielski wrote:
  34764.  
  34765. > Podejrzewam, ze oficjalna nota Amiga International lub G2k,
  34766. > wyslana przez prawnikow tych firm, do Ministerstwa Edukacji
  34767. > rozwiazalaby problem.
  34768.  
  34769. Przepraszam, bo nie sledzilem tego tematu zbyt dokladnie (za duzo smieci),
  34770. ale zastanawia mnie, o co Wy sie tak na dobra sprawe czepiacie
  34771. Ministerstwa Edukacji?
  34772.  
  34773. Przeciez oni nie sa od cenzurowania ksiazek tylko od wpisywania ich do
  34774. rejestru podrecznikow, a wiec stwierdzania, czy dany podrecznik realizuje
  34775. ministerialne wytyczne dotyczace programu. O ile wiem, w praktyce to nawet
  34776. tak nie jest - wydawca zamawia recenzje u jakichs prof. dr hab. cudow
  34777. wiankow, placi im za to, wiec recenzja jest pozytywna, a na tej podstawie
  34778. ministerstwo wpisuje ksiazke na liste podrecznikow.
  34779.  
  34780. Ewentualna note nalezy wyslac do wydawcy, bo to on jest odpowiedzialny za
  34781. ksztalt podrecznika i tresci w nim zawarte, i to tylko on moze sie
  34782. zdecydowac na zmiane w kolejnym wydaniu. Piszac do ministerstwa mozna sie
  34783. co najwyzej narazic na smiesznosc.
  34784.  
  34785. / Kamil Iskra    AmigaOS  Linux/i386  Linux/m68k               \
  34786. | GeekGadgets GCC maintainer   UNIX system administrator       |
  34787. | iskra@student.uci.agh.edu.pl  kiskra@ernie.icslab.agh.edu.pl |
  34788. \ kamil@dwd.interkom.pl   http://student.uci.agh.edu.pl/~iskra /
  34789.  
  34790. From owner-amigapl  Thu Mar 26 15:40:09 1998
  34791. Received: from onet.pl (root@onet.pl [194.204.188.6]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA16614 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 15:16:40 +0100 (MET)
  34792. Received: from mk (ppp-wct507.katowice.tpnet.pl [195.205.241.207])
  34793.     by onet.pl (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA24735
  34794.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 15:13:42 +0100 (MET)
  34795. From: "Wojciech Kocjan" <kocjan@ka.onet.pl>
  34796. To: "AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi" <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  34797. Subject: Re: *** Linux na Amidze ***
  34798. Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 10:28:15 +0100
  34799. Message-ID: <01bd5899$8151bc60$fdfefe01@mk>
  34800. MIME-Version: 1.0
  34801. Content-Type: text/plain;
  34802.     charset="iso-8859-2"
  34803. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
  34804. X-Priority: 3
  34805. X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
  34806. X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3
  34807. X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3
  34808.  
  34809. You wrote:
  34810.  
  34811. >Czesc !
  34812. >
  34813. >Mam propozycje - dla kogo tylko, to juz inna sprawa :)
  34814. >Otoz moglby ktos sciagnac wszystkie wersje Linuxa (nie wiem, ile ich jest)
  34815. i wydac na CD jako Shareware Linux Pack czy cos w tym stylu. Moze jedna
  34816. wersja zainteresowalby sie MA i wydal dodatkowy kompakcik ?
  34817. >Chetnie bym dal 20-30 zl za takie linuxowe kompilacje (w sensie skladanki)
  34818. :)
  34819.  
  34820. Ja tez! Pomysl jest godny uwagi. Bo sciaganie modemem linuxa to niezbyt
  34821. przyjemna rzecz. A plytka jest plytka.
  34822.  
  34823. Wojciech Kocjan
  34824. mailto:kocjan@ka.onet.pl        http://priv.onet.pl/ka/wkocjan/
  34825. GSM: +48 601 473237             SMS mailto:48601473237@text.plusgsm.pl
  34826. AUTHOR OF AStartV4, ANETGUI, NEWFMT.LIBRARY and other things
  34827. ---
  34828. "Software suppliers are trying to make their software packages more
  34829. 'user-friendly'.... Their best approach, so far, has been to take
  34830. all the old brochures, and stamp the words, 'user-friendly' on the cover."
  34831. -- Bill Gates, Pres., Microsoft, Inc.
  34832.  
  34833.  
  34834.  
  34835.  
  34836. From owner-amigapl  Thu Mar 26 15:40:16 1998
  34837. Received: from ernie.icslab.agh.edu.pl (kiskra@ernie.icslab.agh.edu.pl [149.156.98.14]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA16673 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 15:37:06 +0100 (MET)
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  34839.        id PAA25033 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 15:35:31 +0100 (MET)
  34840. Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 15:35:30 +0100 (MET)
  34841. From: Kamil Iskra <kiskra@ernie.icslab.agh.edu.pl>
  34842. X-Sender: kiskra@ernie
  34843. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  34844. Subject: Re: *** Linux na Amidze ***
  34845. In-Reply-To: <19980326111040.17261@plukwa.pdi.net>
  34846. Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.95.980326153152.23966B-100000@ernie>
  34847. MIME-Version: 1.0
  34848. Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
  34849.  
  34850. On Thu, 26 Mar 1998, Robert Ramiega wrote:
  34851.  
  34852. > > Mam propozycje - dla kogo tylko, to juz inna sprawa :)
  34853. > > Otoz moglby ktos sciagnac wszystkie wersje Linuxa (nie wiem, ile ich jest) i wydac na CD jako Shareware Linux Pack czy cos w tym stylu. Moze jedna wersja zainteresowalby sie MA i wydal dodatkowy kompakcik ?
  34854. >  Mam wrazenie, ze na jednym sie nie zmiesci. Zarowno RH jak i Debian sa
  34855. > dosc duze (po ok 400+MB) na dodatek sposob dystrybucji Debiana wymaga by na
  34856. > CD byly rowniez zrodla.
  34857.  
  34858. A dystrybucja RedHata nie? Przeciez wiekszosc pakietow jest
  34859. rozpowszechniana na prawach GNU GPL i sposob dystrybucji calego systemu
  34860. nie moze tego zmienic.
  34861.  
  34862. >  Co do tego kto moglby to zrobic to redakcja L+ szuka pomyslow na zawartosc
  34863. > nastepnych CD-Romow =o)
  34864.  
  34865. Moj kumpel sie z nimi kontaktowal, wstepnie wyrazili zgode, po czym po
  34866. prostu przestali odpowiadac na jego listy. Niezle to o nich swiadczy, co?
  34867. Ale coz, chyba nikt nie ma dobrego zdania o firmie Software i wydawanych
  34868. przez nich gazetach?
  34869.  
  34870. / Kamil Iskra    AmigaOS  Linux/i386  Linux/m68k               \
  34871. | GeekGadgets GCC maintainer   UNIX system administrator       |
  34872. | iskra@student.uci.agh.edu.pl  kiskra@ernie.icslab.agh.edu.pl |
  34873. \ kamil@dwd.interkom.pl   http://student.uci.agh.edu.pl/~iskra /
  34874.  
  34875. From owner-amigapl  Thu Mar 26 16:09:50 1998
  34876. Received: from www.kki.net.pl (www.kki.net.pl [195.116.9.70]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA16730 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 15:43:49 +0100 (MET)
  34877. Received: from kki.net.pl (STEAD@pmone235.lodz.pdi.net [195.116.162.235])
  34878.     by www.kki.net.pl (8.8.7/8.8.7.ver6) with SMTP id PAA02655
  34879.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 15:42:51 +0100
  34880. From: Stefan Koralewski <stead@kki.net.pl>
  34881. Reply-To: stead@kki.net.pl
  34882. To: amigapl@amiga.com.pl
  34883. Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 19:03:15 -0500
  34884. Message-ID: <yam7388.756.1749117552@kki.net.pl>
  34885. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.2 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  34886. Organization: STEAD
  34887. Subject: Contact Need!
  34888. MIME-Version: 1.0
  34889. Content-Type: text/plain
  34890.  
  34891.  
  34892. Hello czy ktos tu pisze w Blitz`u MSG do STEAD`u 
  34893.  
  34894. OPi
  34895. -- 
  34896. ==========================================================
  34897. | STEAD is registered and trademark and bla, bla, bla... |
  34898. |         _                                              |
  34899. |        // STEad Stefan Koralewski   A-12oo/o3o/5o/32Mb |         
  34900. |       // steAD Adam Tynenski        CDR/4.8Gb Hdd/SCSI |
  34901. | _ /\ // stead@kki.net.pl            M1538s/HDFlop/28.8 |
  34902. | \\\/// stead@lodz.pdi.net                              |
  34903. |  \\// PPC603e/250/40 cooming soon czyli budziet bystra |       
  34904. |   ""                                                   |  
  34905. ==========================================================
  34906.  
  34907. From owner-amigapl  Thu Mar 26 16:10:09 1998
  34908. Received: from www.kki.net.pl (www.kki.net.pl [195.116.9.70]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA16719 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 15:43:21 +0100 (MET)
  34909. Received: from kki.net.pl (STEAD@pmone235.lodz.pdi.net [195.116.162.235])
  34910.     by www.kki.net.pl (8.8.7/8.8.7.ver6) with SMTP id PAA02472
  34911.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 15:42:12 +0100
  34912. From: Stefan Koralewski <stead@kki.net.pl>
  34913. Reply-To: Stefan Koralewski <stead@kki.net.pl>
  34914. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  34915. Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 15:08:37 -0500
  34916. Message-ID: <yam7389.1862.1745898584@kki.net.pl>
  34917. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.2 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  34918. Organization: STEAD
  34919. Subject: Re: Wstepniak w MA 3/98
  34920. MIME-Version: 1.0
  34921. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
  34922. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  34923.  
  34924. Dnia 25-Mar-98, Artur Pietruk napisa=EE:
  34925.  
  34926. >Nie mam nic przeciwko samej stronie. Mam jednak cos przeciwko
  34927. >umieszczeniu na tej stronie moich podkladow - zostaly one zrobione z mys=
  34928. la
  34929. >o Plukwie i nie uwazam ze dobrym pomyslem bylo umieszczenie ich tam bez
  34930. >mojej zgody.
  34931.  
  34932. Oki, z tego co wiem Twoje podk=EEady zosta=EEy zdj=EBte ze strony.
  34933.  
  34934. >> PS. Nie jeste=F4 pozbawiony kultury, dzi=EBki za uwag=EB, szkoda tylko=
  34935. , =FBe by=EEa =
  34936.  
  34937. >> ona tak k=E2=F4liwa. :(((
  34938.  
  34939. >A ja zaluje ze nie byla bardziej kasliwa, gdyz uwazam niestety ze
  34940. >albo sobie jaja robicie, albo strugacie wariatow. Macie szczescie, ze
  34941. >jestem opanowanym czlowiekiem.
  34942.  
  34943. Jak chcesz, tak uwa=FBasz...
  34944.  
  34945. >W *poniedzialek* spotkalem niejakiego dr chiry na irc. Rozmowa z
  34946. >nim byla niezwylke ciekawym eksperymentem mistycznym :^). Pan chiry
  34947. >opowiadal duzo "ciekawych" rzeczy - np. to ze jako Amigowiec nigdy w zyc=
  34948. iu
  34949. >nie widzial strony www Plukwy (Btw twoje stwierdzenie ze podklady wydawa=
  34950. ly
  34951. >sie tobie znajome jakos mnie tez nie przekonuje), a podklady wzial z
  34952. >jakiejs plyty cd-rom. Co wiecej, nawet zaczal
  34953. >puszczac teksty ze jak ja go smiem oskarzac o kradziez czy tez
  34954. >wykorzystanie obrazkow bez zgody autora (czyli mojej). No coz, wiele teg=
  34955. o
  34956. >tam bylo, jesli ktos jest zainteresowany przebiegiem dyskusji badz nie
  34957. >dowierza, sluze logiem z irc - choc w sumie nie wiem czy warto
  34958. >meczyc sie i czytac wypowiedzi tego pana. W kazdym badz razie to ze
  34959. >zamiast go rowno zbluznic probowalem delikatnie mu wyperswadowac swoje
  34960. >stanowisko zawdziecza mojemu opanowaniu i temu, ze obiecal mi iz *JUTRO
  34961. >RANO* zdejmie podklady. Chcialbym zauwazyc ze pisze te slowa w SRODE
  34962. >WIECZOREM, wiec minely juz DWA DNI.
  34963.  
  34964. 1. A kiedy stwierdzi=EEem, =FBe te podk=EEady s=E2 mi znajome ?
  34965. 2. Nie moge odpowiadac za to, co DRChiry wypisuje na IRC - to chyba logic=
  34966. zne ?
  34967.     Dlatego tez nie ustosunkuj=EB si=EB do Waszej polemiki. To jakby tylk=
  34968. o Wasza sprawa. =
  34969.  
  34970. 3. Faktem jest, =FBe to DRChiry waln=E2=EE te nieszcz=EBsne podk=EEady na=
  34971.  stron=EB. Faktem jest, =FBe  =
  34972.  
  34973.     ja tez nie by=EEem na WWW Plukwy pomimo tego =FBe PDI jest moim provi=
  34974. derem.
  34975.     Czy jest taki obowi=E2zek ? Ka=FBdy Amigowiec musi wej=F4c na t=EB st=
  34976. ron=EB ?
  34977. Wydaje mi si=EB, =FBe poprzednio grzecznie Cie przeprosi=EEem i uzna=EEem=
  34978.  Twoje s=EEuszne racje.
  34979. Podk=EEady zosta=EEy zdj=EBte.
  34980.  
  34981. >Po za tym uslyszalem rowniez ze nie tylko obrazki na tej
  34982. >stronie znalazly sie "przypadkiem" -kod html jest kradziony ze strony
  34983. >zrobionej przez Konrada Bielskiego, umieszczono tekst pochodzacy z gazet=
  34984. y
  34985. >wyborczej bez zgody wydawcy, a MPS nic nie wie o tym jakoby zatwierdzal =
  34986. te
  34987. >strone. No coz, w tej sytuacji znajdujaca sie na stronie lista jej chyba=
  34988.  6
  34989. >autoruff wydaje sie smieszna - trzeba bylo az siedmiu ludzi, aby skleic
  34990. >strone z ukradzionych elementow? Nie najlepiej to swiadczy o autorach
  34991.  
  34992. Polemika z Konradem Bielskim by=EEa zdecydowanie mniej naszpikowana "stru=
  34993. ganymi wariatami"
  34994. czy tez "kradziezami". Dlatego tez bez zadnych problem=F3w ca=EEa sprawa =
  34995. zosta=EEa wyja=F4niona.
  34996. MPS otrzyma=EE ca=EE=E2 stron=EB, i wedle jego s=EE=F3w jedynym problemem=
  34997.  by=EEo zamieszczenie kodu html by Konrad Bielski, a raczej fakt, =FBe ro=
  34998. zpocz=EB=EEa si=EB o to batalia. Gdyby nie Konrad, sam MPS nie wszczyna=EE=
  34999. by o to polemiki. <--- To jego s=EEowa. =
  35000.  
  35001.  
  35002.  
  35003.  
  35004. Slyszalem tez od Rekina (Roberta Redziak) ze rozmawial z toba i
  35005. >tez strugales wariata.
  35006.  
  35007. Hmm..., a w jakiej sprawie z nim rozmawialem jesli mozna zapytac ?
  35008. Nick  Rekin jest mi znany tylko dlatego, ze pochodzi on z Lodzi, tak jak =
  35009. ja.
  35010. Nie utrzymujemy ZADNYCH kontaktow !!!
  35011.  
  35012. >PS. Na razie jeszcze jestem opanowany...
  35013.  
  35014. >PS2. List przesylam tez na plearn, ale nie jestem zapisany na te
  35015. >liste, wiec jesli ktos bedzie chcial ze mna dyskutowac, to bylo by milo
  35016. >jesli dodalby mnie do CC:
  35017.  
  35018. Cos ode mnie :
  35019. Wydawa=EEo mi si=EB, =FBe skoro raz w grzeczny spos=F3b przeprosi=EEem Ci=
  35020. e (za to =FBe Chiry zamiescil twoje podklady na stronie) i zaproponowa=EE=
  35021. em kilka wyj=F4c z tej sytuacji, ca=EEa sprawa zostanie za=EEatwiona polu=
  35022. bownie. Np. tak, jak to mia=EEo miejsce w przypadku Konrada Bielskiego.
  35023.  
  35024. Informuj=EB zatem, =FBe :
  35025.  
  35026. 1. Podk=EEady zosta=EEy zdj=EBte. =
  35027.  
  35028. 2. To co mowi DRChiry na IRC-u to jest jego sprawa
  35029. 3. Nie t=EEumaczy=EEem si=EB " =FBe podklady by=EEy mi znajome" - wyja=F4=
  35030. nij to, gdy=FB ja sprawdzi=EEem w Yamie w "WYS=CEANE" jedyny list w tej s=
  35031. prawie (do Ciebie) i nie by=EEo tam takiego t=EEumaczenia...
  35032. 4. Nie rozmawia=EEem z Rekinem - to tez prosze wyjasnic !!!
  35033.  
  35034. Mam nadziej=EB, i=FB to co napisa=EEem oraz fakt, =FBe podk=EEady zosta=EE=
  35035. y zdj=EBte spowoduje zako=EFczenie
  35036. tej dyskusji. Cho=EA mi=EEo by=EEoby przeczyta=EA Twoje wyja=F4nienia co =
  35037. do pkt. 3 i  4 =
  35038.  
  35039.  
  35040.                STEad
  35041.  
  35042.  
  35043. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
  35044. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
  35045. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
  35046. | STEAD is registered and trademark and bla, bla, bla... |
  35047. |         _                                              |
  35048. |        // STEad Stefan Koralewski   A-12oo/o3o/5o/32Mb |         =
  35049.  
  35050. |       // steAD Adam Tynenski        CDR/4.8Gb Hdd/SCSI |
  35051. | _ /\ // stead@kki.net.pl            M1538s/HDFlop/28.8 |
  35052. | \\\/// stead@lodz.pdi.net                              |
  35053. |  \\// PPC603e/250/40 cooming soon czyli budziet bystra |       =
  35054.  
  35055. |   ""                                                   |  =
  35056.  
  35057. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
  35058. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
  35059. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
  35060. -- =
  35061.  
  35062. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
  35063. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
  35064. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
  35065. | STEAD is registered and trademark and bla, bla, bla... |
  35066. |         _                                              |
  35067. |        // STEad Stefan Koralewski   A-12oo/o3o/5o/32Mb |         =
  35068.  
  35069. |       // steAD Adam Tynenski        CDR/4.8Gb Hdd/SCSI |
  35070. | _ /\ // stead@kki.net.pl            M1538s/HDFlop/28.8 |
  35071. | \\\/// stead@lodz.pdi.net                              |
  35072. |  \\// PPC603e/250/40 cooming soon czyli budziet bystra |       =
  35073.  
  35074. |   ""                                                   |  =
  35075.  
  35076. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
  35077. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
  35078. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
  35079.  
  35080. From owner-amigapl  Thu Mar 26 16:10:16 1998
  35081. Received: from www.kki.net.pl (www.kki.net.pl [195.116.9.70]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA16724 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 15:43:27 +0100 (MET)
  35082. Received: from kki.net.pl (STEAD@pmone235.lodz.pdi.net [195.116.162.235])
  35083.     by www.kki.net.pl (8.8.7/8.8.7.ver6) with SMTP id PAA02605
  35084.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 15:42:41 +0100
  35085. From: Stefan Koralewski <stead@kki.net.pl>
  35086. Reply-To: stead@kki.net.pl
  35087. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  35088. Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 14:22:42 -0500
  35089. Message-ID: <yam7389.2082.1745898584@kki.net.pl>
  35090. In-Reply-To: <yam7389.1764.143063984@server.fiber.net.pl>
  35091. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.2 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  35092. Organization: STEAD
  35093. Subject: Re: Odp: 14" vs 15"
  35094. MIME-Version: 1.0
  35095. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
  35096. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  35097.  
  35098. Dnia 26-Mar-98, Marcin Orlowski napisa=EE:
  35099.  
  35100. >> Panowie kupujcie monitory SVGA do Amig !!! dopiero wtedy system Amigi
  35101. >> nabiera powa=BFnego wygl=B1du
  35102.  
  35103. >I majestatu (z 2 x wolniejsza grafika na Agacie w trybach w/w etc.) ;-(
  35104.  
  35105. Hmm..., polecam lektur=EB mojego listu do Konrada Bielskiego w tej sprawi=
  35106. e. =
  35107.  
  35108. Chcia=EEbym tylko doda=EA do tej pr=EBdko=F4ci, =FBe istnieje kilka takic=
  35109. h fajnych progz=F3w umilaj=E2cych =FBycie tym, kt=F3rych na razie nie sta=
  35110. c na GFX z r=F3=FBnych przyczyn.
  35111. I tak:
  35112. Scalos - to chyba wszyscy znamy
  35113. FastBlitter - praca w 64 kol. w DBLPal tak szybka,  jak w 16 normalnie.
  35114. Savage 040/060 VBlank lub TurboEVD - tych sterownik=F3w do AGAty te=FB ch=
  35115. yba nie trzeba
  35116. rekomendowac nieszcz=EB=F4liwym userom Amig bez GFX. =
  35117.  
  35118.  
  35119. Pozdrawiam             STEad
  35120.  
  35121. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
  35122. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
  35123. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
  35124. | STEAD is registered and trademark and bla, bla, bla... |
  35125. |         _                                              |
  35126. |        // STEad Stefan Koralewski   A-12oo/o3o/5o/32Mb |         =
  35127.  
  35128. |       // steAD Adam Tynenski        CDR/4.8Gb Hdd/SCSI |
  35129. | _ /\ // stead@kki.net.pl            M1538s/HDFlop/28.8 |
  35130. | \\\/// stead@lodz.pdi.net                              |
  35131. |  \\// PPC603e/250/40 cooming soon czyli budziet bystra |       =
  35132.  
  35133. |   ""                                                   |  =
  35134.  
  35135. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
  35136. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
  35137. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
  35138.  
  35139. From owner-amigapl  Thu Mar 26 16:10:23 1998
  35140. Received: from www.kki.net.pl (www.kki.net.pl [195.116.9.70]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA16716 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 15:42:53 +0100 (MET)
  35141. Received: from kki.net.pl (STEAD@pmone235.lodz.pdi.net [195.116.162.235])
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  35143.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 15:42:07 +0100
  35144. From: Stefan Koralewski <stead@kki.net.pl>
  35145. Reply-To: stead@kki.net.pl
  35146. To: amigapl@amiga.com.pl
  35147. Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 15:19:43 -0500
  35148. Message-ID: <yam7389.2131.1745898584@kki.net.pl>
  35149. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.2 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  35150. Organization: STEAD
  35151. Subject: Amigowa Lodz
  35152. MIME-Version: 1.0
  35153. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
  35154. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  35155.  
  35156. Mi=EEo mi zakomunikowa=EA wszystkim posiadaczom i sympatykom komputera Am=
  35157. iga z =CEodzi i okolic, =FBe wsp=F3lnym staraniem kilku osob (steAD, STEa=
  35158. d, Iarek, Ivo) zostan=E2 reaktywowane cotygodniowe spotkania Klubu Sympat=
  35159. yk=F3w Amigi w =CEodzi (wzorem niestety zaniechanych spotka=EF w =CE=F3dz=
  35160. kim Domu Kultury). Tym razem =
  35161.  
  35162. ( na 99%) odbywa=EA si=EB one w M=EEodzie=FBowym Domu Kultury (siedziba Y=
  35163. MCA) w =CEodzi przy ulicy Moniuszki (kolo Grand Hotelu) we czwartki. Godz=
  35164. iny oraz termin rozpoczecia podam jak tylko bedzie to juz pewne na 100%. =
  35165.  
  35166. Wszelkie informacje na ten temat uzyska=EA mo=FBna pod mailem =
  35167.  
  35168. stead@kki.net.pl =
  35169.  
  35170. lub telefonicznie =
  35171.  
  35172. 33-44-82 (prosi=EA Stefana lub Adama), =
  35173.  
  35174. 33-01-97 (prosi=EA Jarka)
  35175.  
  35176.  
  35177.  
  35178.  
  35179.  
  35180. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
  35181. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
  35182. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
  35183. | STEAD is registered and trademark and bla, bla, bla... |
  35184. |         _                                              |
  35185. |        // STEad Stefan Koralewski   A-12oo/o3o/5o/32Mb |         =
  35186.  
  35187. |       // steAD Adam Tynenski        CDR/4.8Gb Hdd/SCSI |
  35188. | _ /\ // stead@kki.net.pl            M1538s/HDFlop/28.8 |
  35189. | \\\/// stead@lodz.pdi.net                              |
  35190. |  \\// PPC603e/250/40 cooming soon czyli budziet bystra |       =
  35191.  
  35192. |   ""                                                   |  =
  35193.  
  35194. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
  35195. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
  35196. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
  35197.  
  35198. From owner-amigapl  Thu Mar 26 16:10:30 1998
  35199. Received: from www.kki.net.pl (www.kki.net.pl [195.116.9.70]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA16727 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 15:43:32 +0100 (MET)
  35200. Received: from kki.net.pl (STEAD@pmone235.lodz.pdi.net [195.116.162.235])
  35201.     by www.kki.net.pl (8.8.7/8.8.7.ver6) with SMTP id PAA02642
  35202.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 15:42:47 +0100
  35203. From: Stefan Koralewski <stead@kki.net.pl>
  35204. Reply-To: stead@kki.net.pl
  35205. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  35206. Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 14:15:27 -0500
  35207. Message-ID: <yam7389.1362.1745898584@kki.net.pl>
  35208. In-Reply-To: <yam7388.1874.141887408@mail.union.org.pl>
  35209. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.2 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  35210. Organization: STEAD
  35211. Subject: Re: Odp: 14" vs 15"
  35212. MIME-Version: 1.0
  35213. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
  35214. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  35215.  
  35216. Dnia 25-Mar-98, Konrad Bielski napisa=EE:
  35217. >Dnia 25-Mar-98, Stefan Koralewski napisa=B3:
  35218.  
  35219. >>Panowie kupujcie monitory SVGA do Amig !!! dopiero wtedy system Amigi n=
  35220. abiera
  35221. >>powa=BFnego wygl=B1du
  35222.  
  35223. >Powa=BFny wygl=B1d, na ko=B6ciach AGA?
  35224.  
  35225. Niewatpliwym faktem jest, i=FB Amiga jest wspania=EEym komputerem, to wie=
  35226. my wszyscy.
  35227. Zwlaszcza w konfiguracji jak=E2 Ty posiadasz. Zejd=FAmy jednak na ziemi=EB=
  35228. , =FByjemy w Pollandzie, w kt=F3rym opr=F3cz szalenie rozbudowanych (nies=
  35229. tety nielicznych, choc powinno byc przecie=FB odwrotnie) cfg, cz=EBsto sp=
  35230. otykanych w=F4r=F3d Amigowych internetowc=F3w istnieje olbrzymia grupa u=FB=
  35231. ytkownik=F3w Amgi w znacznie skromniejszych konfigach.
  35232. Dla przyk=EEadu podam, =FBe w moim rodzinnym miasteczku tzn. =CEodzi utrz=
  35233. ymujemy (u=FBytkownicy Amig) ze soba dosyc =F4cis=EEe kontakty. I co z te=
  35234. go wynika ?
  35235. Ot=F3=FB w mojej bazie danych, na ok. 70 os=F3b posiadaj=E2cych A1200 (A5=
  35236. 00 nie bior=EB nawet pod uwag=EB), A3000, A4000 tylko 7 ma kart=EB grafic=
  35237. zn=E2, z czego 4 dopiero od niedawna.
  35238. Wi=EBkszo=F4c z pozosta=EEych nawet na oczy nie widzia=EEa Amigi z GFX.
  35239. Staramy si=EB od dawna promowac Amigi w naszym ma=EEym niasteczku, przyno=
  35240. si to czasem efekty w postaci nowych u=FBytkownik=F3w. W=EEa=F4nie im pow=
  35241. tarzamy ca=EEy czas, po zakupie Amigi obowi=E2zkowo turbo, potem r=F3wnie=
  35242. =FB obowi=E2zkowo monitor SVGA, potem dopiero GFX. NIE WSZYSTKICH STAC NA=
  35243.  WYLOZENIE PONAD 3000 PLN OD RAZU !!!.
  35244. Poza tym istnieje pewien stereotyp my=F4lowy tzn: Amiga podpi=EBta do TV.=
  35245.  A co powiesz o czym=F4 takim ? Dzi=EBki naszej (oczywi=F4cie nie tylko) =
  35246. nieustaj=E2cej akcji wi=EBkszo=F4c z =EE=F3dzkich u=FBytkownik=F3w  Amigi=
  35247.  juz ma monitory SVGA !!! Teraz dopiero przyszed=EE czas na GFX !!!
  35248.  
  35249. To, co napisa=EEem wy=FBej tzn. powa=FBny wygl=E2d odnosi=EEo si=EB do ko=
  35250. go=F4 kto zastanawia=EE si=EB nad kupnem takiego monitora. Wnioskowac nal=
  35251. e=FBy, i=FB wcze=F4niej jego komp by=EE pod=EE=E2czony do TV, albo staro=FB=
  35252. ytnego PHILIPSA lub 1084S. Co z wygl=E2dem systemu na takim monitorze lub=
  35253.  TV?
  35254.  
  35255. PS. tak tylko mimochodem dorzuc=EB, i=FB dzi=EBki monitorowi SVGA (a racz=
  35256. ej MULTISCAN) mam to swoje 706x556x6 NI. Czy na TV system wygl=E2da lepie=
  35257. j ? S=E2dz=EB, iz nawet taka (zdaj=EB sobie spraw=EB =FBe niska) rozdziel=
  35258. czo=F4c daje o wiele wi=EBkszy komfort ni=FB TV.
  35259. Nie zmienia to faktu, =FBe natychmiast po sp=EEaceniu rat za BlizzaPPC ku=
  35260. puj=EB kart=EB graficzn=E2
  35261. (mam nadziej=EB, =FBe ju=FB BlizzardVision). W rzeczy samej dopiero GFX w=
  35262.  Ami daje nie=FAle popali=EA.
  35263. Ale nie wszystkich sta=EA na ca=EE=E2 Amig=EB od razu. Cieszy za to fakt,=
  35264.  =FBe zdecydowana wi=EBkszo=F4c ze wspomnianych 70 os=F3b planuje zakup t=
  35265. akich cfg (oczywi=F4cie z GFX :)))
  35266.  
  35267.  
  35268. Pozdrawiam          STEad
  35269.  
  35270. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
  35271. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
  35272. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
  35273. | STEAD is registered and trademark and bla, bla, bla... |
  35274. |         _                                              |
  35275. |        // STEad Stefan Koralewski   A-12oo/o3o/5o/32Mb |         =
  35276.  
  35277. |       // steAD Adam Tynenski        CDR/4.8Gb Hdd/SCSI |
  35278. | _ /\ // stead@kki.net.pl            M1538s/HDFlop/28.8 |
  35279. | \\\/// stead@lodz.pdi.net                              |
  35280. |  \\// PPC603e/250/40 cooming soon czyli budziet bystra |       =
  35281.  
  35282. |   ""                                                   |  =
  35283.  
  35284. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
  35285. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
  35286. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
  35287.  
  35288. From owner-amigapl  Thu Mar 26 16:40:12 1998
  35289. Received: from onet.pl (root@onet.pl [194.204.188.6]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA16879 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 16:37:56 +0100 (MET)
  35290. Received: from mk (ppp-wct315.katowice.tpnet.pl [195.205.241.15])
  35291.     by onet.pl (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA04495
  35292.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 16:32:53 +0100 (MET)
  35293. From: "Wojciech Kocjan" <kocjan@ka.onet.pl>
  35294. To: "AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi" <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  35295. Subject: Re: HDEnv ...
  35296. Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 16:32:26 +0100
  35297. Message-ID: <01bd58cc$6113c460$fdfefe01@mk>
  35298. MIME-Version: 1.0
  35299. Content-Type: text/plain;
  35300.     charset="iso-8859-2"
  35301. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
  35302. X-Priority: 3
  35303. X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
  35304. X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3
  35305. X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3
  35306.  
  35307. You wrote:
  35308. >Nie bêdê siê rozpisywa³ jak ja to robiê. Zaraz wyra¿ê swoj± opiniê.
  35309. >[blablabla]
  35310. >przebiegaæ w ENVARCu!!! Czy¿ nie mam racji??? Napisa³em wiêc programik
  35311. >do pachowania open () lecz chyba system z niego nie korzysta przy
  35312. >odczycie ENVa. Zdissasemblowaa³em IPrefsa (przestêpstwo - wiem)
  35313. >i odwo³ania do open nie znalaz³em. To s± moje (ju¿ zakoñczone) boje
  35314. >z ENVem. Podda³em siê. Temat siê pojawi³ wiêc mój g³os.
  35315.  
  35316. Raczej zpatchuj StartNotify(), bo do niego siê odwo³uje IPrefs. Ale lepiej
  35317. juz skorzystac z HappyENVa.
  35318.  
  35319. Wojciech Kocjan
  35320. mailto:kocjan@ka.onet.pl        http://priv.onet.pl/ka/wkocjan/
  35321. GSM: +48 601 473237             SMS mailto:48601473237@text.plusgsm.pl
  35322. AUTHOR OF AStartV4, ANETGUI, NEWFMT.LIBRARY and other things
  35323. ---
  35324. "Software suppliers are trying to make their software packages more
  35325. 'user-friendly'.... Their best approach, so far, has been to take
  35326. all the old brochures, and stamp the words, 'user-friendly' on the cover."
  35327. -- Bill Gates, Pres., Microsoft, Inc.
  35328.  
  35329.  
  35330. From owner-amigapl  Thu Mar 26 17:39:54 1998
  35331. Received: from arka.mtl.pl (root@mtl.pl [195.116.4.4]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA17033 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 17:13:57 +0100 (MET)
  35332. Received: from gie-da (rmod16.mtl.pl [195.116.164.18]) by arka.mtl.pl (8.8.7/8.6.12) with ESMTP id RAA01336 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 17:07:56 +0100 (MET)
  35333. Message-Id: <199803261607.RAA01336@arka.mtl.pl>
  35334. From: "Adam Zaparcinski" <gielda@mtl.pl>
  35335. To: "AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi" <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  35336. Subject: Odp: mUSASHI and AmigaOS
  35337. Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 18:21:18 +0100
  35338. X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
  35339. X-Priority: 3
  35340. X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155
  35341. MIME-Version: 1.0
  35342. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2
  35343. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
  35344.  
  35345. >> IMHO wieszanie siê programu w trakcie jego tworzenia jest rzecz± normaln± i
  35346. >> niezale¿n± od platformy. Grunt, ¿eby te wszystkie b³êdy usun±æ i program
  35347. nie
  35348. >> wiesza³ siê w wersji koñcowej.
  35349. >
  35350. >Co do tego to sie zgadzamy. Tyle, ze dyskusja zaczela sie wlasnie od
  35351. >wieszania systemu w czasie pisania programu. Moim zdaniem to jest powod,
  35352. >dla ktorego wielu programistow chcialoby memory protection w AmigaOS.
  35353.  
  35354. Fakt. Wprawdzie taka ochrona nie wyeliminowa³a by wszystkich b³êdów ale zawsze
  35355. o te 30?, 50?, 80? procent zwisów mniej. Swoj± drog± takie zjechanie
  35356. wska¿nikami na cudz± pamiêæ da³oby siê chyba zablokowaæ na poziomie
  35357. kompilatora. Kompilowa³oby siê z opcj± SAFE i kompilator do³±cza³by
  35358. odpowiednie porcedurki ostrzegaj±ce przed takimi momentami programistê.
  35359. Oczywi¶cie po usuniêciu wszystkich b³êdów skompilowa³oby siê finaln± wersjê
  35360. bez tej opcji. Taki enforcer wbudowany w pisany program - to by by³a dobra
  35361. rzecz ale chyba nikt tego nie zrealizuje.
  35362.  
  35363. >Oczekiwania uzytkownikow sa jednak inne. Szarego uzytkownika nie obchodzi,
  35364. >jezeli mu sie system powiedzmy ze dwa razy dziennie wylozy - reset i po
  35365. >krzyku. Czytalem np. niedawno, ze w powaznej ankiecie przeprowadzonej na
  35366. >uzytkownikach PC w USA wyszlo, ze cos dobrze ponad 50% z nich, chyba kolo
  35367. >70%, jest bardzo zadowolonych ze swoich komputerow, z tego co one potrafia
  35368. >i oferuja. Oczywiscie w ogromnej wiekszosci te komputery maja
  35369. >zainstalowane W95. Tak wiec uzytkownikom nie przeszkadza, ze sie
  35370. >komputer wiesza - ustawia sie autosave w edytorze raz na 1 min i juz.
  35371.  
  35372. A tu mnie zaskoczy³e¶, chocia¿ w sumie takiemu joy³amaczowi to wszystko jedno
  35373. chyba. To mo¿e byædla nas nauka, ¿e Amiga powinna zaatakowaæ rynek
  35374. komputerowych laików.
  35375.  
  35376. >I to jest to, co mnie osobiscie niepokoi. Klientom nie zalezy na
  35377. >stabilnosci - a skoro nie zalezy kupujacym, to po cholere maja sie starac
  35378. >sprzedajacy?
  35379.  
  35380. To w sumie po co ten ca³y krzyk o ochronê pamiêci skoro prawie nikomu nie
  35381. przeszkadza ¿e komputer siê wiesza, a ludzie co chc± mieæ superstabilne
  35382. systemy i tak instaluj± sobie unixa. Mam wra¿enie, ¿e ochrona pamiêci z punktu
  35383. widzenia sprzeda¿y i marketingu Amigi nie jest najwa¿niejsza.
  35384.  
  35385. Pozdrawiam
  35386.  
  35387. Adam 'Sherwood' Zaparciñski
  35388. From owner-amigapl  Thu Mar 26 17:40:12 1998
  35389. Received: from arka.mtl.pl (root@mtl.pl [195.116.4.4]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA17035 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 17:14:07 +0100 (MET)
  35390. Received: from gie-da (rmod16.mtl.pl [195.116.164.18]) by arka.mtl.pl (8.8.7/8.6.12) with ESMTP id RAA01348; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 17:08:05 +0100 (MET)
  35391. Message-Id: <199803261608.RAA01348@arka.mtl.pl>
  35392. From: "Adam Zaparcinski" <gielda@mtl.pl>
  35393. To: "Lista dyskusyjna uzytkownikow komputera AMIGA AMIGAPL" <AMIGA@PLEARN.EDU.PL>,
  35394.         "AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi" <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  35395. Subject: Pare spraw
  35396. Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 17:01:41 +0100
  35397. X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
  35398. X-Priority: 3
  35399. X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155
  35400. MIME-Version: 1.0
  35401. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2
  35402. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
  35403.  
  35404. Witam wszystkich. Zebra³o siê kilka spraw wiêc ¿eby nie za¶miecaæ list(y)
  35405. wszystko w jednym mailu:
  35406.  
  35407. 1. Kumpel chce kupiæ hadeka ok 250 Mb (mo¿e byæ trochê wiêkszy) z badblockami.
  35408. Chodzi o to, ¿e te z badblockami s± tañsze a jemu nie zale¿y tak bardzo na
  35409. niezawodno¶ci. Kontakt na mnie (na priva oczywi¶cie)
  35410.  
  35411. 2. To pytanie developerskie: Czy kto¶ wie jak zrobiæ w MUI ¿eby odbieraæ
  35412. naci¶niêcia ró¿nych klawiszy w aktywnym oknie? Przyk³adowo stworzy³em jaki¶
  35413. obiekt w³asnej klasy bêd±cej podklas±list i chcê aby naci¶niêcie del usuwa³o
  35414. pozycjê z listy. Oczywi¶cie mam metodê usuwaj±c± tak± pozycjê problem tylko
  35415. jak do tego podczepiæ klawisz.
  35416.  
  35417. 3. A propos klawiszy - czy da siê jako¶ odczytaæ klawisze pecetowe na
  35418. pecetowerj klawirze podczepionej do Ami? Fajnie by by³o gdyby pgup, pgdn,
  35419. home, end itd. dzai³a³y na Ami.
  35420.  
  35421. 4. Czy kto¶ ma opis sygna³ów na z³±czu EURO? Je¶li tak to poproszê na priva.
  35422.  
  35423. To chyba tyle. Na razie
  35424.  
  35425. Adam 'Sherwood' Zaparciñski
  35426. mailto: gielda@mtl.pl
  35427. From owner-amigapl  Thu Mar 26 17:40:21 1998
  35428. Received: from plukwa.pdi.net (robert@plukwa.pdi.net [195.116.162.7]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA17095 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 17:38:28 +0100 (MET)
  35429. Received: (qmail 2028495832 invoked by uid 531); 26 Mar 1998 17:39:59 -0000
  35430. Message-ID: <19980326173957.29340@plukwa.pdi.net>
  35431. Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 17:39:57 +0000
  35432. From: Robert Ramiega <robert@plukwa.pdi.net>
  35433. To: amigapl@amiga.com.pl
  35434. Subject: Uzytkownicy BPPC
  35435. Mime-Version: 1.0
  35436. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
  35437. X-Mailer: Mutt 0.88
  35438. Organization: PDi Ltd, Lodz, PL
  35439. X-Personal: PlukwaZone Owner
  35440. X-PGP-fingerprint: BB 1F 6D 5F CF AF 5A 67  E3 0C EA 68 E4 7F 74 B1
  35441.  
  35442.   Witam!
  35443.  
  35444.  W zwiazku z klopotami jakie mnie trapia a sa bezposrednio zwiazane z
  35445. BlizzardPPC. Prosilbym wszystkie osoby posiadajace takowe urzadzenia o
  35446. kontakt na moj adres (robert@pdi.net lub robert@plukwa.pdi.net)
  35447.  (szczegolnie prosze o kontakt te osoby ktore oprocz BPPC posiadaja sloty
  35448. ZorroII Micornika i karty CV64/3D oraz Ariadne <<albo jakies inne>>)
  35449.  
  35450. -- 
  35451.  Robert Ramiega     | robert@pdi.net  IRC: _Jedi_ | Don't underestimate 
  35452.  Plukwa Zone Owner  | http://plukwa.pdi.net/      | the power of Source
  35453. From owner-amigapl  Thu Mar 26 17:40:29 1998
  35454. Received: from plukwa.pdi.net (robert@plukwa.pdi.net [195.116.162.7]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA17062 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 17:29:35 +0100 (MET)
  35455. Received: (qmail 2031632960 invoked by uid 531); 26 Mar 1998 17:31:18 -0000
  35456. Message-ID: <19980326173115.29657@plukwa.pdi.net>
  35457. Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 17:31:15 +0000
  35458. From: Robert Ramiega <robert@plukwa.pdi.net>
  35459. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  35460. Subject: Re: *** Linux na Amidze *** 
  35461. References: <19980326111040.17261@plukwa.pdi.net> <Pine.GSO.3.95.980326153152.23966B-100000@ernie>
  35462. Mime-Version: 1.0
  35463. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
  35464. X-Mailer: Mutt 0.88
  35465. In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.3.95.980326153152.23966B-100000@ernie>; from Kamil Iskra on Thu, Mar 26, 1998 at 03:35:30PM +0100
  35466. Organization: PDi Ltd, Lodz, PL
  35467. X-Personal: PlukwaZone Owner
  35468. X-PGP-fingerprint: BB 1F 6D 5F CF AF 5A 67  E3 0C EA 68 E4 7F 74 B1
  35469.  
  35470. On Thu, Mar 26, 1998 at 03:35:30PM +0100, Kamil Iskra wrote:
  35471. > On Thu, 26 Mar 1998, Robert Ramiega wrote:
  35472. > 
  35473. > > > Mam propozycje - dla kogo tylko, to juz inna sprawa :)
  35474. > > > Otoz moglby ktos sciagnac wszystkie wersje Linuxa (nie wiem, ile ich jest) i wydac na CD jako Shareware Linux Pack czy cos w tym stylu. Moze jedna wersja zainteresowalby sie MA i wydal dodatkowy kompakcik ?
  35475. > >  Mam wrazenie, ze na jednym sie nie zmiesci. Zarowno RH jak i Debian sa
  35476. > > dosc duze (po ok 400+MB) na dodatek sposob dystrybucji Debiana wymaga by na
  35477. > > CD byly rowniez zrodla.
  35478. > 
  35479. > A dystrybucja RedHata nie? Przeciez wiekszosc pakietow jest
  35480.  RH sie mniej scisle trzyma GPL (tzn wystarcza im notka gdzie mozna znalezc
  35481. zrodla) Opiekunowie Debiana postawili sprawe jasno, ze na plytce maja byc
  35482. zrodla (tak odpowiedz dostal Andrzej K. Brandt jeszcze jak byl rednaczem
  35483. L+; widocznie jego nastepca dogadal sie jednak jakos bo Debian pokazal sie
  35484. na CD od L+ <<*ze* zrodlami tyle, ze na kolejnej plytce>>)
  35485. > rozpowszechniana na prawach GNU GPL i sposob dystrybucji calego systemu
  35486. > nie moze tego zmienic.
  35487.  Racja... ja tylko znam pare faktow (nawet nie calosc) zwiazanych z
  35488. umieszczeniem Debiana na L+ CD (pamietam przy tym, ze RH byl na tych ze
  35489. plytkach tylko w postaci binariow)
  35490.  
  35491. -- 
  35492.  Robert Ramiega     | robert@pdi.net  IRC: _Jedi_ | Don't underestimate 
  35493.  Plukwa Zone Owner  | http://plukwa.pdi.net/      | the power of Source
  35494. From owner-amigapl  Thu Mar 26 17:40:42 1998
  35495. Received: from plukwa.pdi.net (robert@plukwa.pdi.net [195.116.162.7]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA17078 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 17:33:54 +0100 (MET)
  35496. Received: (qmail 2028671576 invoked by uid 531); 26 Mar 1998 17:35:33 -0000
  35497. Message-ID: <19980326173529.47233@plukwa.pdi.net>
  35498. Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 17:35:29 +0000
  35499. From: Robert Ramiega <robert@plukwa.pdi.net>
  35500. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  35501. Subject: Re: Amigowa Lodz
  35502. References: <yam7389.2131.1745898584@kki.net.pl>
  35503. Mime-Version: 1.0
  35504. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  35505. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  35506. X-Mailer: Mutt 0.88
  35507. In-Reply-To: <yam7389.2131.1745898584@kki.net.pl>; from Stefan Koralewski on Thu, Mar 26, 1998 at 03:19:43PM -0500
  35508. Organization: PDi Ltd, Lodz, PL
  35509. X-Personal: PlukwaZone Owner
  35510. X-PGP-fingerprint: BB 1F 6D 5F CF AF 5A 67  E3 0C EA 68 E4 7F 74 B1
  35511.  
  35512. On Thu, Mar 26, 1998 at 03:19:43PM -0500, Stefan Koralewski wrote:
  35513.  
  35514. > Mi=EEo mi zakomunikowa=EA wszystkim posiadaczom i sympatykom komputera Am=
  35515. iga
  35516. > z =CEodzi i okolic, =FBe wsp=F3lnym staraniem kilku osob (steAD, STEad, I=
  35517. arek,
  35518. > Ivo) zostan=E2 reaktywowane cotygodniowe spotkania Klubu Sympatyk=F3w Ami=
  35519. gi w
  35520. > =CEodzi (wzorem niestety zaniechanych spotka=EF w =CE=F3dzkim Domu Kultur=
  35521. y). Tym
  35522. > razem=20
  35523.  
  35524.  oooo to sa jeszcze ludzie, ktorzy pamietaja tamte spotkania?? (a myslalem
  35525. ze wiekszosc z nich juz wymarla albo specetowiala...)
  35526. > 33-44-82 (prosi=EA Stefana lub Adama),=20
  35527. > 33-01-97 (prosi=EA Jarka)
  35528.  Zrob cos z polskimi literkami prosze... to powyzej wyglada co nieco
  35529. niestosownie ;o)))
  35530.  
  35531. --=20
  35532.  Robert Ramiega     | robert@pdi.net  IRC: _Jedi_ | Don't underestimate=20
  35533.  Plukwa Zone Owner  | http://plukwa.pdi.net/      | the power of Source
  35534. From owner-amigapl  Thu Mar 26 18:10:12 1998
  35535. Received: from merkury.piotrkow.tpsa.pl (merkury.piotrkow.tpsa.pl [194.204.159.4]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA17211 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 18:05:53 +0100 (MET)
  35536. Received: from polbox.com (neon@ppp163.radom.tpnet.pl [195.116.243.163])
  35537.     by merkury.piotrkow.tpsa.pl (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA14972
  35538.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 18:04:51 +0100 (MET)
  35539. From: Kamil =?iso-8859-1?Q?Drzewi=EFski?= <kgfx@polbox.com>
  35540. Reply-To: kgfx@polbox.com
  35541. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  35542. Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 17:17:19 +0100
  35543. Message-ID: <yam7389.978.139365336@www.tpnet.pl>
  35544. In-Reply-To: <199803261013.LAA25425@Jan.mat.uni.torun.pl>
  35545. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  35546. Subject: Re: *** Linux na Amidze ***
  35547. MIME-Version: 1.0
  35548. Content-Type: text/plain
  35549.  
  35550.  
  35551.  
  35552. >Hmmm...a czy byloby wiecej zainteresowanych ?
  35553. >Swego czasu mialem postawionego Watchtowera, potem NetBSD, a teraz
  35554. >mam RedHata (do tego zostaje Debian, LinuxPPC - co prawda wersja
  35555. >"beta" i pewnie duzo sie trzeba przy niej napracowac, zreszta i tak
  35556. >wszystko sie nie zmiesci na jedenj plytce)  , 
  35557. >nagrywarke mam, sciagniecie dystrybucji Linuxa to nie
  35558. >problem, kwestia czy byloby wiecej chetnych osob na taka skladanke ?
  35559.  
  35560. OK. Jestem zainteresowany, szczegolnie wersja ppc.
  35561.  
  35562. -- 
  35563.  
  35564. -----------------------------------------------
  35565. Kamil Drzewinski, kgfx@polbox.com / Team Amiga 
  35566.                   GSM: +48 602773956
  35567. -----------------------------------------------
  35568.  
  35569. From owner-amigapl  Thu Mar 26 18:40:01 1998
  35570. Received: from kret.slo.zary.pl (root@[195.164.53.126]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA17276 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 18:33:17 +0100 (MET)
  35571. Received: from slo.zary.pl (root@dial1.slo.zary.pl [195.164.53.121])
  35572.     by kret.slo.zary.pl (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id SAA00893
  35573.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 18:39:23 +0100
  35574. From: Krzysztof Chrobot <krzys@slo.zary.pl>
  35575. To: amigapl@amiga.com.pl
  35576. Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 18:18:05 +0100
  35577. Message-ID: <yam7389.266.1752088648@kret.slo.zary.pl>
  35578. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  35579. Subject: Amiga i Casio QV-300
  35580. MIME-Version: 1.0
  35581. X-ISO-CONVERTED: Yam_ISO2 1.06 (17.11.97) (c) Silver Dream !
  35582. X-YAMISO-UPDATE: ftp://wfmh.org.pl/pub/yam_iso2/
  35583. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  35584. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  35585.  
  35586.   Witam!!!
  35587.  
  35588. Istnieje wersja softu dla Amigi umo=BFliwiaj=B1ca przesy=B3anie zdj=EA=E6=
  35589.  z/do cyfrowego
  35590. aparatu Casio QV-300. Gdzie mo=BFna=A0(opr=F3cz niemieckiej firmy Vesalia=
  35591. ) zdoby=E6
  35592. ten soft???
  35593.  
  35594. -- =
  35595.  
  35596.               Krzysztof Chrobot
  35597.           _Reyboot/Rainbow Design_
  35598.           mailto: *krzys@slo.zary.pl*
  35599.         http://www.slo.zary.pl/~krzys/
  35600.  
  35601. A1200T/060/18MB/2.1GB+0.2GB/CDx4/CASIO_QV-300/
  35602.         VBS/FG-24/Sampler/LC-20/33k6
  35603.  
  35604. From owner-amigapl  Thu Mar 26 18:40:17 1998
  35605. Received: from silter.silesia.top.pl (silter.silesia.top.pl [195.117.67.3]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA17252 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 18:22:02 +0100 (MET)
  35606. Received: from ppp-wct147.katowice.tpnet.pl (yoyo@ppp-wct147.katowice.tpnet.pl [194.204.181.147])
  35607.     by silter.silesia.top.pl (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA16269;
  35608.     Thu, 26 Mar 1998 18:20:25 +0100 (CET)
  35609. Date: 26 Mar 98 14:59:18 +0100
  35610. From: "Grzegorz Juraszek" <yoyo@silesia.top.pl>
  35611. Subject: *** MP3 Stuff *** (fwd)
  35612. To: amiga@plearn.edu.pl, amigapl@amiga.com.pl
  35613. Message-ID: <311.389T940T8991160@silesia.top.pl>
  35614. MIME-Version: 1.0
  35615. Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="p4TteRSuKXBIgGr8gRiNDIkkZAlLD3I"
  35616. X-Mailer: THOR 2.5 (Amiga;TCP/IP) *UNREGISTERED*
  35617.  
  35618. If your are able to read this, your reader is not MIME compliant.
  35619. Use Metamail or a MIME aware reader to view the message properly.
  35620.  
  35621. --p4TteRSuKXBIgGr8gRiNDIkkZAlLD3I
  35622. Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  35623. Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
  35624.  
  35625. Hmm... Czy Huckster nie by³ kiedy¶ amigowcem?
  35626.  
  35627. --
  35628.    Grzegorz Juraszek * Yoyo^Twilight * Amiga user * AIRI & ATO PL member
  35629.        mailto:yoyo@silesia.top.pl * http://www.silesia.top.pl/~yoyo
  35630. --
  35631.              "Let the truth be known though the heavens fall"
  35632.                     Agent Mulder * The X-Files * Redux
  35633.  
  35634. --p4TteRSuKXBIgGr8gRiNDIkkZAlLD3I
  35635. Content-type: message/rfc822
  35636.  
  35637. From: "Tomek Wozniak" <huckster@panda.bg.univ.gda.pl>
  35638. Subject: *** MP3 Stuff ***
  35639. Date: 26 Mar 1998 09:05:58 GMT
  35640. Message-id: <351A1A76.FE3F3078@panda.bg.univ.gda.pl>
  35641. Path: news.icm.edu.pl!orion.cst.tpsa.pl!news.task.gda.pl!not-for-mail
  35642. Newsgroups: pl.comp.os.linux,pl.comp.sys.amiga,pl.comp.sys.atari,pl.comp.sys.macintosh,pl.comp.os.os2
  35643. Organization: Centrum Informatyczne TASK
  35644. NNTP-Posting-Host: leeloo.ek.univ.gda.pl
  35645. Mime-Version: 1.0
  35646. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I)
  35647. Xref: news.icm.edu.pl pl.comp.os.linux:40841      pl.comp.sys.amiga:3011       pl.comp.sys.atari:2662       pl.comp.sys.macintosh:614        pl.comp.os.os2:6160      
  35648.  
  35649. Czesc.
  35650. :))
  35651.  
  35652. Na poczatku sorki za takiego spama, ale moje pytanie kierowane jest do
  35653. wszystkich uzytkownikow w/w systemow operacyjnych i marek komputerow.
  35654.  
  35655. Otoz chcialbym uaktualnic na stronie http://mp3.mtl.pl/ spis wszelkich:
  35656. - playerow (programow sluzacych do odgrywania MP3)
  35657. - ripperow (programow do zgrywania Audio CD z kompaktu na dysk)
  35658. - encoderow (programow do kodowania WAVa na MP3)
  35659.  
  35660. Jestem lamuszkiem jesli chodzi o inne systemy operacyjne (rozne od UNIXa
  35661. i Windy) - i chcialbym abyscie pomogli mi uzupelnic liste programow
  35662. odpowiednich dla WASZEGO sprzetu i systemu operacyjnego - wtedy lista
  35663. bedzie kompletna  -  i nie bedzie przynajmniej przewagi G95.
  35664.  
  35665. Mam nadzieje ze Wam zalezy na powiedzeniu innym, ze na uzywany przez Was
  35666. komputer i jego system operacyjny sa odpowiednie programy do MP3. (moze
  35667. Wam nie zalezy - ale prosze o to :)))
  35668.  
  35669. Wszelkie informacje dotyczace tej kwestii (miloby widziec takze
  35670. dolaczone stosowne programy, badz linki do nich) prosilbym przesylac 
  35671. na adres:
  35672.  
  35673. huckster@snickers.ek.univ.gda.pl
  35674.  
  35675. Nno....mam nadzieje ze pokazemy swiatu, ze polskie strony o MP3 sa nie
  35676. tylko Majkro$oftowe. :)))
  35677.  
  35678. No to czesc - dzieki z gory za odzew - i jeszcze raz przepraszam za
  35679. spama. :))
  35680.  
  35681.                 Huckster
  35682.  
  35683. -- H U C K S T E R ----------------------------------------------       
  35684. ------------------ Tomek Wozniak Ogrody 13/77 85-870 Bydgoszcz --
  35685. -- huckster@panda.bg.univ.gda.pl, huckster@mindless.com ---------
  35686. ------ http://panda.bg.univ.gda.pl/~huckster/ -------------------
  35687. --------------------Tel: 0-601-617714, 0-52-713247---------------
  35688. ----------------------------------------------------------- o ---
  35689.  
  35690. --p4TteRSuKXBIgGr8gRiNDIkkZAlLD3I--
  35691.  
  35692. From owner-amigapl  Thu Mar 26 19:09:57 1998
  35693. Received: from gryzmak.lodz.pdi.net (gryzmak.lodz.pdi.net [195.116.162.1]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA17319 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 18:48:40 +0100 (MET)
  35694. Received: (from arturp@localhost)
  35695.     by gryzmak.lodz.pdi.net (8.8.7/2.1.1/L) id SAA14247;
  35696.     Thu, 26 Mar 1998 18:46:06 +0100
  35697. Message-ID: <19980326184600.59816@plukwa.pdi.net>
  35698. Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 18:46:00 +0100
  35699. From: Artur Pietruk <arturp@plukwa.pdi.net>
  35700. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  35701. Subject: Re: Wstepniak w MA 3/98
  35702. References: <yam7389.1862.1745898584@kki.net.pl>
  35703. Mime-Version: 1.0
  35704. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
  35705. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
  35706. X-Mailer: Mutt 0.83
  35707. In-Reply-To: <yam7389.1862.1745898584@kki.net.pl>; from Stefan Koralewski on Thu, Mar 26, 1998 at 03:08:37PM -0500
  35708.  
  35709. On Thu, Mar 26, 1998 at 03:08:37PM -0500, Stefan Koralewski wrote:
  35710. > Dnia 25-Mar-98, Artur Pietruk napisaî:
  35711. > 
  35712. > >Nie mam nic przeciwko samej stronie. Mam jednak cos przeciwko
  35713. > >umieszczeniu na tej stronie moich podkladow - zostaly one zrobione z mysla
  35714. > >o Plukwie i nie uwazam ze dobrym pomyslem bylo umieszczenie ich tam bez
  35715. > >mojej zgody.
  35716. > 
  35717. > Oki, z tego co wiem Twoje podkîady zostaîy zdjëte ze strony.
  35718.  
  35719.     Przepraszam bardzo, z ktorej strony zostaly zdjete? Bo teraz jest
  35720. czwartek, godzina 18:44 a na stronie http://www.dom.VR.pl/~drchiry/ nadal
  35721. sa te podklady.
  35722.  
  35723. > >> PS. Nie jesteô pozbawiony kultury, dziëki za uwagë, szkoda tylko, ûe byîa 
  35724. > >> ona tak kâôliwa. :(((
  35725. > 
  35726. > >A ja zaluje ze nie byla bardziej kasliwa, gdyz uwazam niestety ze
  35727. > >albo sobie jaja robicie, albo strugacie wariatow. Macie szczescie, ze
  35728. > >jestem opanowanym czlowiekiem.
  35729. > 
  35730. > Jak chcesz, tak uwaûasz...
  35731.  
  35732.     Doczytaj dalsza czesc ;-)
  35733.  
  35734. > 1. A kiedy stwierdziîem, ûe te podkîady sâ mi znajome ?
  35735. > 2. Nie moge odpowiadac za to, co DRChiry wypisuje na IRC - to chyba logiczne ?
  35736. >     Dlatego tez nie ustosunkujë sië do Waszej polemiki. To jakby tylko Wasza sprawa. 
  35737. > 3. Faktem jest, ûe to DRChiry walnâî te nieszczësne podkîady na stronë. Faktem jest, ûe  
  35738. >     ja tez nie byîem na WWW Plukwy pomimo tego ûe PDI jest moim providerem.
  35739. >     Czy jest taki obowiâzek ? Kaûdy Amigowiec musi wejôc na të stronë ?
  35740.  
  35741.     Tak, ja sadzilem ze obowiazkiem kazdego Amigowca jest odwiedzenie
  35742. Plukwy :-)))))) Po za tym ja do Was osobiscie nic nie mam, a do ciebie tym
  35743. bardziej (rowniez czytaj dalsza czesc).
  35744.  
  35745. > Wydaje mi sië, ûe poprzednio grzecznie Cie przeprosiîem i uznaîem Twoje sîuszne racje.
  35746. > Podkîady zostaîy zdjëte.
  35747.  
  35748.     Nie zostaly ;-)
  35749.  
  35750. > >Po za tym uslyszalem rowniez ze nie tylko obrazki na tej
  35751. > >stronie znalazly sie "przypadkiem" -kod html jest kradziony ze strony
  35752. > >zrobionej przez Konrada Bielskiego, umieszczono tekst pochodzacy z gazety
  35753. > >wyborczej bez zgody wydawcy, a MPS nic nie wie o tym jakoby zatwierdzal te
  35754. > >strone. No coz, w tej sytuacji znajdujaca sie na stronie lista jej chyba 6
  35755. > >autoruff wydaje sie smieszna - trzeba bylo az siedmiu ludzi, aby skleic
  35756. > >strone z ukradzionych elementow? Nie najlepiej to swiadczy o autorach
  35757. > 
  35758. > Polemika z Konradem Bielskim byîa zdecydowanie mniej naszpikowana "struganymi wariatami"
  35759. > czy tez "kradziezami". Dlatego tez bez zadnych problemów caîa sprawa zostaîa wyjaôniona.
  35760.  
  35761.     Wiesz, ja tego sam osobiscie nie nazwalem kradzieza. Kradzieza
  35762. nazwal to Dr Chiry, mowiac "jak smiesz oskarzac mnie o kradziez". Ja
  35763. spokojenie staralem mu sie wyluszczyc sprawe wcale go nie straszac
  35764. (hmm.... Na zlodzieju czapka gore? :-) - to nie o tobie, zeby nie
  35765. bylo watpliwosci) Skoro on uzyl tego sformulowania, to pomyslalem sobie ze
  35766. chyba to jednak jest kradziez, skoro sam uzyl takiego slowa.
  35767.  
  35768. > > >PS2. List przesylam tez na plearn, ale nie jestem zapisany na te
  35769. > >liste, wiec jesli ktos bedzie chcial ze mna dyskutowac, to bylo by milo
  35770. > >jesli dodalby mnie do CC:  
  35771. > > Cos ode mnie :  
  35772. > Wydawaîo mi sië, ûeskoro raz w grzeczny sposób przeprosiîem Cie (za to ûe Chiry zamiescil
  35773. > twoje podklady na stronie) i zaproponowaîem kilka wyjôc z tej sytuacji,
  35774. > caîa sprawa zostanie zaîatwiona polubownie. Np. tak, jak to miaîo
  35775. > miejsce w przypadku Konr ada Bielskiego.
  35776.  
  35777.     Ja to wszystko rozumie, ale caly czas piszesz, a podklady jak byly
  35778. na stronie tak sa :-( Zauwaz ze zgodzilem sie na polubowne rozwiazanie
  35779. juz w PONIEDZIALEK, ale wy nadal nie wywiazujecei sie ze swojej umowy. I
  35780. co ja mam teraz napisac? Blagac na kolanach? :-)
  35781.  
  35782. > > Informujë zatem, ûe :  
  35783. > > 1. Podkîady zostaîy zdjëte. 
  35784.  
  35785.     Jeszcze raz - nie zostaly... Minely juz 4 dni od naszej polubownej
  35786. umowy.
  35787.  
  35788. > 2. To co mowi DRChiry na IRC-u to jest jego sprawa 
  35789.  
  35790.     Ok. Przepraszam ze ciebie ocenilem podobnie jak jego, gdyz z toba
  35791. chyba bedzie sie latwiej dogadac.
  35792.  
  35793. > 3. Nie tîumaczyîem sië " ûe podklady byîy mi znajome" - wyjaônij
  35794. > to, gdyû ja sprawdziîem w Yamie w "WYSÎANE" jedyny list w tej sprawie
  35795. > (do
  35796. > Ciebie) i nie byîo tam takiego tîumaczenia...  
  35797.  
  35798.     Hmm.... Dam glowe ze bylo cos takiego, nawet zacytowalem :-)
  35799.  
  35800. > 4. Nie rozmawiaîem z Rekinem - to tez prosze wyjasnic !!!  
  35801. >  Mam nadziejë, iû to co napisaîem
  35802. > oraz fakt, ûe podkîady zostaîy zdjëte spowoduje zakoïczenie 
  35803. > tej dyskusji. Choê miîo byîoby przeczytaê Twoje wyjaônienia co do pkt. 3
  35804. >i 4 
  35805.  
  35806.     Spoko, z tego co widze w sygnaturce, jest was dwoch - STEad i
  35807. steAD. Moze rekin rozmawial z tym drugim? Zmiencie sobie nicki. Jesli tak
  35808. to wyjasnia sie sprawa "strugania wariata" - przepraszam ;-)
  35809.  
  35810.     A co do strugania wariata przez tego drugiego steada, to
  35811. powiedzial rekinowi mowiac o mojej ososbie cos takiego: "To po co umiescil
  35812. podklady na plukwie, jesli nie chcial zeby je wykorzystywac?". No
  35813. comments...
  35814.  
  35815.     PS. Mozesz ucianac tekst w okolicy 79 kolumny? Ciezko sie cytuje
  35816. list.
  35817.  
  35818.     Pozdrawia:
  35819.  
  35820. -- 
  35821. -------------------------------------------------------------------
  35822. - Who  : Artur Pietruk - WebMaster @ PDi - www.pdi.net -      /// -
  35823. - Email: arturp@pdi.net IRC: APair TEL: +48 44 7140906 -     ///  -
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  35826.  
  35827.         PGP public key - finger arturp@gryzmak.lodz.pdi.net
  35828.                 "My webpage exists - I've seen it!"
  35829. From owner-amigapl  Thu Mar 26 19:10:19 1998
  35830. Received: from gryzmak.lodz.pdi.net (gryzmak.lodz.pdi.net [195.116.162.1]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA17332 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 18:54:51 +0100 (MET)
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  35833.     Thu, 26 Mar 1998 18:52:11 +0100
  35834. Message-ID: <19980326185132.59249@plukwa.pdi.net>
  35835. Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 18:51:33 +0100
  35836. From: Artur Pietruk <arturp@plukwa.pdi.net>
  35837. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  35838. Subject: Re: Amigowa Lodz
  35839. References: <yam7389.2131.1745898584@kki.net.pl>
  35840. Mime-Version: 1.0
  35841. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
  35842. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
  35843. X-Mailer: Mutt 0.83
  35844. In-Reply-To: <yam7389.2131.1745898584@kki.net.pl>; from Stefan Koralewski on Thu, Mar 26, 1998 at 03:19:43PM -0500
  35845.  
  35846. On Thu, Mar 26, 1998 at 03:19:43PM -0500, Stefan Koralewski wrote:
  35847. > Ivo) zostanâ reaktywowane cotygodniowe spotkania Klubu Sympatyków Amigi
  35848. > w Îodzi (wzorem niestety zaniechany
  35849. > ch spotkaï w Îódzkim Domu Kultury). Tym razem 
  35850.  
  35851.     Hmmm Pojawialem sie kiedys na spotkaniach tego klubu, wtedy byly
  35852. organizowane przez pejota i wojtala. Czyzbys ty takze na nich bywal???
  35853. Moze jeszcze sie okaze ze tak naprawde znamy sie z widzenia? :-)
  35854.  
  35855.     Pozdrawia:
  35856.  
  35857. -- 
  35858. -------------------------------------------------------------------
  35859. - Who  : Artur Pietruk - WebMaster @ PDi - www.pdi.net -      /// -
  35860. - Email: arturp@pdi.net IRC: APair TEL: +48 44 7140906 -     ///  -
  35861. - Snail: ul.11 listopada 33a/19 97-140 Koluszki POLAND - \\\///   -
  35862. - Using: AMIGA 4000/40 CV64-3D, A1240T                 -  \\//    -
  35863.  
  35864.         PGP public key - finger arturp@gryzmak.lodz.pdi.net
  35865.                 "My webpage exists - I've seen it!"
  35866. From owner-amigapl  Thu Mar 26 20:10:13 1998
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  35870.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 19:40:50 +0100
  35871. From: Adam Majewski <akmmaya@kki.net.pl>
  35872. Reply-To: Adam Majewski <akmmaya@kki.net.pl>
  35873. To: WFMH-AmigaPL <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  35874. Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 21:31:54 +0100
  35875. Message-ID: <yam7388.2700.1748431512@kki.net.pl>
  35876. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  35877. Subject: HTML
  35878. MIME-Version: 1.0
  35879. X-ISO-CONVERTED: Yam_ISO2 1.06 (17.11.97) (c) Silver Dream !
  35880. X-YAMISO-UPDATE: ftp://wfmh.org.pl/pub/yam_iso2/
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  35882. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  35883.  
  35884. Cze=B6=E6 wszystkim :)))
  35885.  
  35886. Mam tak=B1 pro=B6b=EA
  35887.  
  35888. Czy m=F3g=B3by mi kto=B6 przes=B3a=E6 na priva jakie=B6 przyk=B3ady w j=EA=
  35889. zyku
  35890. HTML jak zawiesi=E6 G95, sformatowa=E6 twardziela, zrobi=E6 inny
  35891. ba=B3agan itp?
  35892.  
  35893. Oczywi=B6cie jest to tylko w celach badawczych i nie zamierzam
  35894. (jak na razie) z tego korzysta=E6 :) W ko=F1cu PeCetowiec to te=BF
  35895. cz=B3owiek, aczkolwiek ma on wypaczony obraz =B6wiata
  35896. (on jest przecie=BF w MULTIMEDIACH :(')
  35897.  
  35898. Trzymajcie si=EA ... (z dala od z=B3omu)
  35899.  
  35900. -- =
  35901.  
  35902. Pozdrawiam :-)
  35903.  
  35904. mailto: akmmaya@kki.net.pl
  35905. www: http://www.kki.net.pl/akmmaya
  35906.  
  35907. :-)  w=F3wren  eibos  juCP  ein  (-:
  35908.                                                            Adam Majewski
  35909.  
  35910. From owner-amigapl  Thu Mar 26 21:09:50 1998
  35911. Received: from ns1.widzew.net (ns1.widzew.net [195.117.215.2]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA17706 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 21:03:50 +0100 (MET)
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  35913. Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 21:04:51 +0100 (MET)
  35914. From: "Maciej Pawlowski (MACIEK@WIDZEW.NET)" <maciek@ns1.widzew.net>
  35915. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  35916. Subject: Re: Amigowa Lodz
  35917. In-Reply-To: <19980326173529.47233@plukwa.pdi.net>
  35918. Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.3.91.980326210329.8057A-100000@ns1.widzew.net>
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  35921. Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE
  35922.  
  35923.  
  35924.  
  35925. On Thu, 26 Mar 1998, Robert Ramiega wrote:
  35926.  
  35927. > On Thu, Mar 26, 1998 at 03:19:43PM -0500, Stefan Koralewski wrote:
  35928. >=20
  35929. > > Mi=EEo mi zakomunikowa=EA wszystkim posiadaczom i sympatykom komputera =
  35930. Amiga
  35931. > > z =CEodzi i okolic, =FBe wsp=F3lnym staraniem kilku osob (steAD, STEad,=
  35932.  Iarek,
  35933. > > Ivo) zostan=E2 reaktywowane cotygodniowe spotkania Klubu Sympatyk=F3w A=
  35934. migi w
  35935. > > =CEodzi (wzorem niestety zaniechanych spotka=EF w =CE=F3dzkim Domu Kult=
  35936. ury). Tym
  35937. > > razem=20
  35938. >=20
  35939. >  oooo to sa jeszcze ludzie, ktorzy pamietaja tamte spotkania?? (a myslale=
  35940. m
  35941. > ze wiekszosc z nich juz wymarla albo specetowiala...)
  35942.  
  35943.  
  35944. Sa, sa i juz sie ciesza, ze te spotkania beda znowu... :)))
  35945.  
  35946. Maciek
  35947.  
  35948. From owner-amigapl  Thu Mar 26 21:39:50 1998
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  35951. Date:     Thu, 26 Mar 1998 22:33:30 +0100 (MET)
  35952. Sender: Krystian Wlosek <tygrys@ajax.umcs.lublin.pl>
  35953. From: Tygrys <tygrys@ajax.umcs.lublin.pl>
  35954. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  35955. Subject: Re: *** Linux na Amidze ***
  35956. In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.3.95.980326123613.23444A-100000@student>
  35957. Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.980326223111.32493A-100000@ajax.umcs.lublin.pl>
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  35960.  
  35961. On Thu, 26 Mar 1998, Grzegorz Junka wrote:
  35962. > Ja bez problemu moge sciagnac nawet 600mb softwareu z sieci. Problem tylko
  35963.  
  35964. > w tym, czy ktos bedzie chetny to na MACD, ACSCover lub MACover zamiescic.
  35965.  
  35966. MACover a moze i MACD bedzie chetny.. przed chwila o tym rozmawialem...
  35967. Jak bede mial 'chwile' wolna to sciagna cala dystrybucje i dostarcze..
  35968.  
  35969. Tygrys.
  35970.  
  35971. From owner-amigapl  Thu Mar 26 21:39:59 1998
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  35975.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 21:20:08 +0100
  35976. From: Adam Majewski <akmmaya@kki.net.pl>
  35977. Reply-To: Adam Majewski <akmmaya@kki.net.pl>
  35978. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  35979. Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 21:14:28 +0100
  35980. Message-ID: <yam7389.1415.1747630816@kki.net.pl>
  35981. In-Reply-To: <yam7388.30.2020179728@vena.telbank.pl>
  35982. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  35983. Subject: Re: Re[2]: 4xIDE
  35984. MIME-Version: 1.0
  35985. X-ISO-CONVERTED: Yam_ISO2 1.06 (17.11.97) (c) Silver Dream !
  35986. X-YAMISO-UPDATE: ftp://wfmh.org.pl/pub/yam_iso2/
  35987. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  35988. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  35989.  
  35990. Dnia 25-Mar-98, Marek Szymanski napisa=B3:
  35991.  =
  35992.  
  35993. >On 25-Mar-98, Adam Majewski wrote: =
  35994.  
  35995.  
  35996. >> A czy kto=B6 to sprawdza=B3 z cd.device. Jest to dla mnie b. wa=BFne
  35997.  
  35998. >Masz zapewne na my=B6li cd.device z pakietu PnP300?
  35999.  
  36000. TAK, dok=B3adnie o ten sterownik mi chodzi, ale ju=BF wiem,
  36001. =BFe bez problemu b=EAdzie dza=B3a=B3 z 4xIDE (pisz=B1 o tym nawet
  36002. w instrukcji, tylko zajrze=E6 ci=EA=BFko :)
  36003.  
  36004. >> kt=F3rych nie posiada =BFaden inny device (chodzi o zgrywanie track=F3=
  36005. w
  36006. >> z cdda na twardziela :)
  36007.  
  36008. >Wydaje mi si=EA, =BFe jest to przede wszystkim kwestia posiadania
  36009. >odpowiedniego nap=EAdu. U mnie (Sony CDU57a x4) zgrywa=B3em tak=BFe z
  36010. >atapi.device.
  36011.  
  36012. A wg mnie jest to wina softu, ale nie chc=EA si=EA k=B3uci=E6 (skoro u ci=
  36013. ebie
  36014. zgrywa). Ja pracowa=B3em z atapi.device ponad rok i U MNIE
  36015. nie chcia=B3a zgrywa=E6. By=E6 mo=BFe masz nowsz=B1 wersj=EA albo co inne=
  36016. go :)
  36017.  
  36018. Zasy=B3am pozdrowienia (dla wszystkich :) =
  36019.  
  36020.  
  36021. EOT
  36022.  
  36023. -- =
  36024.  
  36025. Pozdrawiam :-)
  36026.  
  36027. mailto: akmmaya@kki.net.pl
  36028. www: http://www.kki.net.pl/akmmaya
  36029.  
  36030. :-)  w=F3wren  eibos  juCP  ein  (-:
  36031.                                                            Adam Majewski
  36032.  
  36033. From owner-amigapl  Thu Mar 26 22:09:59 1998
  36034. Received: from student.uci.agh.edu.pl (ramix@student.uci.agh.edu.pl [149.156.98.60]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA17877 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 22:01:08 +0100 (MET)
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  36037. Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 22:00:41 +0100 (MET)
  36038. From: Grzegorz Junka <ramix@student.uci.agh.edu.pl>
  36039. X-Sender: ramix@student
  36040. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  36041. Subject: Re: Odp: mUSASHI and AmigaOS
  36042. In-Reply-To: <199803261607.RAA01336@arka.mtl.pl>
  36043. Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.95.980326215742.20163B-100000@student>
  36044. MIME-Version: 1.0
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  36046. Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE
  36047.  
  36048. On Wed, 25 Mar 1998, Adam Zaparcinski wrote:
  36049.  
  36050. > >Co do tego to sie zgadzamy. Tyle, ze dyskusja zaczela sie wlasnie od
  36051. > >wieszania systemu w czasie pisania programu. Moim zdaniem to jest powod,
  36052. > >dla ktorego wielu programistow chcialoby memory protection w AmigaOS.
  36053. >=20
  36054. > Fakt. Wprawdzie taka ochrona nie wyeliminowa=B3a by wszystkich b=B3=EAd=
  36055. =F3w ale zawsze
  36056. > o te 30?, 50?, 80? procent zwis=F3w mniej. Swoj=B1 drog=B1 takie zjechani=
  36057. e
  36058.  
  36059. Jakby juz bylo pelne memory protection, a nie tylko powierzchowne
  36060. protezy, to wtedy i bez problemu powinno byc i 100% zwisow mniej. Mi np.
  36061. w zyciu nie udalo sie polozyc linuxa. Nawet jak kiedys z roota wykasowalem
  36062. mu pliki systemowe :)
  36063.  
  36064. > wska=BFnikami na cudz=B1 pami=EA=E6 da=B3oby si=EA chyba zablokowa=E6 na =
  36065. poziomie
  36066. > kompilatora. Kompilowa=B3oby si=EA z opcj=B1 SAFE i kompilator do=B3=B1cz=
  36067. a=B3by
  36068. > odpowiednie porcedurki ostrzegaj=B1ce przed takimi momentami programist=
  36069. =EA.
  36070. > Oczywi=B6cie po usuni=EAciu wszystkich b=B3=EAd=F3w skompilowa=B3oby si=
  36071. =EA finaln=B1 wersj=EA
  36072. > bez tej opcji. Taki enforcer wbudowany w pisany program - to by by=B3a do=
  36073. bra
  36074. > rzecz ale chyba nikt tego nie zrealizuje.
  36075.  
  36076. --
  36077. ,x80Y^"=09Member of Amiga Promotion Group and fanatic AMIGA user
  36078. $0+'=09=09=09Grzegorz Junka "Bastian"
  36079. 08=09piccolo@ibm.uci.agh.edu.pl=09bastian@apg.plukwa.pdi.net
  36080. 0'
  36081. 9=09A1200Inf 040/40Bliz 32Mb 1.6Gb 12x 1942S CN40BC
  36082.  
  36083. From owner-amigapl  Thu Mar 26 22:39:51 1998
  36084. Received: from server.fiber.net.pl (server.fiber.net.pl [195.117.208.101]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA17980 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 22:31:40 +0100 (MET)
  36085. Received: from amiga.com.pl (pppb42.szczecin.tpnet.pl [195.205.239.42])
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  36087.           id AAA8882 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>;
  36088.           Thu, 26 Mar 1998 22:30:44 +0100
  36089. From: Miloslaw Smyk <thorgal@amiga.com.pl>
  36090. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  36091. Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 22:13:24 +0100
  36092. Message-ID: <yam7389.1249.142688664@fiber.net.pl>
  36093. In-Reply-To: <199803261607.RAA01336@arka.mtl.pl>
  36094. X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview3 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
  36095. Organization: W.F.M.H.
  36096. Subject: Re: Odp: mUSASHI and AmigaOS
  36097. MIME-Version: 1.0
  36098. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  36099. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  36100.  
  36101. Dnia 25-Mar-98, Adam Zaparcinski rzek=B3 co nast=EApuje:
  36102.  
  36103. > Fakt. Wprawdzie taka ochrona nie wyeliminowa=B3a by wszystkich b=B3=EAd=
  36104. =F3w ale
  36105. zawsze
  36106. > o te 30?, 50?, 80? procent zwis=F3w mniej. Swoj=B1 drog=B1 takie zjecha=
  36107. nie
  36108. > wska=BFnikami na cudz=B1 pami=EA=E6 da=B3oby si=EA chyba zablokowa=E6 n=
  36109. a poziomie
  36110. > kompilatora. Kompilowa=B3oby si=EA z opcj=B1 SAFE i kompilator do=B3=B1=
  36111. cza=B3by
  36112. > odpowiednie porcedurki ostrzegaj=B1ce przed takimi momentami programist=
  36113. =EA.
  36114.  
  36115. Jasne. Ciekawe sk=B1d kompilator by wiedzia=B3 kt=F3ra pami=EA=E6 jest cu=
  36116. dza. :) W C
  36117. co najwy=BFej m=F3g=B3by=B6 sprawdza=E6 indeksy tablic, a taki soft zdaje=
  36118.  si=EA na
  36119. Aminecie ju=BF jest. Ca=B3kowit=B1 eliminacj=EA problemu zapisu do (i odc=
  36120. zytu z)
  36121. niew=B3a=B6ciwych miejsc pami=EAci mo=BFna zrealizowa=E6 tylko eliminuj=B1=
  36122. c zupe=B3nie
  36123. wska=BCniki - vide Java.
  36124.  
  36125. Mi=B3ek
  36126. -- =
  36127.  
  36128. mailto:thorgal@amiga.com.pl   |  "Man in the Moon and other weird things"=
  36129.  -
  36130. http://wfmh.org.pl/~thorgal/  |  see it at http://wfmh.org.pl/~thorgal/Mo=
  36131. on/
  36132.  
  36133. From owner-amigapl  Thu Mar 26 23:09:59 1998
  36134. Received: from flop.byd.top.pl (root@flop.byd.top.pl [195.117.74.2]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA18055 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 22:43:43 +0100 (MET)
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  36137.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 22:41:52 +0100 (MET)
  36138. Date: 26 Mar 98 16:14:52 +0100
  36139. From: Ariusz Nowak <ariusz@tk.net.pl>
  36140. Subject: Re: Re[2]: 4xIDE
  36141. To: Waldemar Lamek <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  36142. In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19980326075450.00922270@kki.net.pl>
  36143. Message-ID: <1160.7389T974T2631@tk.net.pl>
  36144. MIME-Version: 1.0
  36145. Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  36146. Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
  36147. X-Mailer: THOR 2.4 (Amiga;TCP/IP) *UNREGISTERED*
  36148.  
  36149. On 26-Mar-98 08:54:50 Waldemar Lamek <lamex@kki.net.pl> wrote:
  36150. >Hi.
  36151.  
  36152. >>Wydaje mi siê, ¿e jest to przede wszystkim kwestia posiadania
  36153. >>odpowiedniego napêdu. U mnie (Sony CDU57a x4) zgrywa³em tak¿e z
  36154. >>atapi.device.
  36155.  
  36156. >Czy mam rozumiec, ze jesli posiada sie rozgaleznik na 4 urzadzenia to mozna
  36157. >podlaczyc dwa dyski na pierwszy kanal, a na drugi CD-Rom. Ale jesli mam
  36158. >zainstalowany AFS, to czy takze bedzie chodzic?
  36159.  
  36160. Dokladnie tak mam. CD-ROM na drugiej tasmie podlacony jest u mnie na
  36161. koncu tasmy, czyli unit 3 atapi.device.
  36162. Co do AFS to mam pod tym wszystkie 12 partycji na obu dyskach i wszystko
  36163. chula jak nalezy.
  36164.  
  36165. Nie jestm pewien tylko co sie stanie gdy do drugie tasmy dolacze
  36166. trzeciego twradziela. Byc moze wtedy juz potrzebny bedzie Idefix.
  36167.  
  36168. Ktos pisal, ze Idefix jest niepotrzebny tylko gdy obydwa twardziele sa
  36169. na jednej tasmie. U mnie tez chodzilo kiedy mialem na pierwszej Caviara
  36170. i CD-ROM a na drugiej Seagate'a.
  36171.  
  36172. Ariusz
  36173.  
  36174.  
  36175.                            *Ariusz Nowak*
  36176.        /Katedra Lekarza Rodzinnego Akademii Medycznej w Bydgoszczy/
  36177.    user:A1240T/40/32MB/HDD1.3GB, 850MB/NEC4x4/Zoom 33600/FG24+PCMCIA
  36178.                       mailto:ariusz@tk.net.pl
  36179.  
  36180. From owner-amigapl  Thu Mar 26 23:39:51 1998
  36181. Received: from piast.pertus.com.pl (root@piast.pertus.com.pl [195.116.191.6]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA18273 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 23:26:13 +0100 (MET)
  36182. Received: from pertus.com.pl (JakeC@ppp232.legnica.tpnet.pl [195.116.255.232])
  36183.     by piast.pertus.com.pl (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id XAA32666
  36184.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 23:29:33 +0100
  36185. From: Waldek "Jakec" Bulkowski <jakec@pertus.com.pl>
  36186. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  36187. Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 22:11:51 +0000
  36188. Message-ID: <yam7389.2577.1747952928@mail.pertus.com.pl>
  36189. In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.3.91.980326210329.8057A-100000@ns1.widzew.net>
  36190. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  36191. Subject: Re[2]: Amigowa Lodz
  36192. MIME-Version: 1.0
  36193. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  36194. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  36195.  
  36196. Dnia 26-Mar-98, Maciej Pawlowski (MACIEK@WIDZEW.NET) napisa=88:
  36197. > =
  36198.  
  36199. > =
  36200.  
  36201. > On Thu, 26 Mar 1998, Robert Ramiega wrote:
  36202. > =
  36203.  
  36204. >> On Thu, Mar 26, 1998 at 03:19:43PM -0500, Stefan Koralewski wrote:
  36205. >> =
  36206.  
  36207. >>  oooo to sa jeszcze ludzie, ktorzy pamietaja tamte spotkania?? (a mysl=
  36208. alem
  36209. >> ze wiekszosc z nich juz wymarla albo specetowiala...)
  36210. > =
  36211.  
  36212. > =
  36213.  
  36214. > Sa, sa i juz sie ciesza, ze te spotkania beda znowu... :)))
  36215. > =
  36216.  
  36217. > Maciek
  36218.  
  36219. A ja pamietam jeszcze starsze czasy :))))
  36220. Bywalem na pierwszych copy-party w polowie lat 80 w jakims Domu
  36221. Kultury w Lodzi (slabo znam Lodz i nie pamietam gdzie to bylo
  36222. dokladnie). Piekne czasy - z zazdroscia patrzylem na ludzi,
  36223. ktorzy mieli dwa magnetofony podpiete do C64 - to dopiero bylo
  36224. szybkie kopiowanie :)))
  36225.  
  36226. 3mcie sie.
  36227.  
  36228. -- =
  36229.  
  36230. Waldek "Jakec" Bulkowski
  36231.     A1200 i dodatki
  36232.       Nipson HQ
  36233.   jakec@pertus.com.pl
  36234. ***
  36235. Life is brutal & pelne pecetow :-(((
  36236. ***=
  36237.  
  36238. From owner-amigapl  Thu Mar 26 23:40:03 1998
  36239. Received: from panda.bg.univ.gda.pl (daemon@panda.bg.univ.gda.pl [153.19.120.249]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA18252 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 23:21:26 +0100 (MET)
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  36242. Date: 26 Mar 98 23:18:49 +0100
  36243. From: "Maciej Gajewski" <maciejg@panda.bg.univ.gda.pl>
  36244. Subject: Re: Sprzedam blizzka IV
  36245. To: "AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi" <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  36246. In-Reply-To: <yam7388.116.2015440936@priv.onet.pl>
  36247. Message-Id: <347.389T2495T13982859@panda.bg.univ.gda.pl>
  36248. Mime-Version: 1.0
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  36250. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
  36251. X-Mailer: THOR 2.5a (Amiga;TCP/IP) *UNREGISTERED*
  36252.  
  36253. Dnia 25-Mar-98    17:42:02, At0m napisa³:
  36254.  
  36255. >W zwiazku z zakupem karty PPC mam do sprzedania
  36256. >karte *Blizzard IV 030/50Mhz z koprocem* za powiedzmy 400 z³
  36257. >Dla osób z poza trójmiasta dojd± jeszcze koszty przesy³ki.
  36258.  
  36259. Ja to samo, z tym ¿e dla osób z Trójmiasta *DOSTAWA DO DOMU* ;D
  36260.  
  36261. maciejg@panda.bg.univ.gda.pl
  36262.  
  36263. --
  36264.  
  36265. Maciej Gajewski     Team *AMIGA*
  36266.  
  36267. From owner-amigapl  Fri Mar 27 00:10:14 1998
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  36269. Received: from friko.onet.pl (Michal@pppa175.szczecin.tpnet.pl [194.204.141.175])
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  36271.       id XAA23604; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 23:56:10 +0100
  36272. From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Micha=EE?= Bujak <takeoff@friko.onet.pl>
  36273. To: Lista dyskusyjna uzytkownikow komputera <AMIGA@PLEARN.EDU.PL>,
  36274.         AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  36275. Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 20:09:09 -0500
  36276. Message-ID: <yam7388.460.137541968@friko.onet.pl>
  36277. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.3a [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  36278. Subject: Miami
  36279. MIME-Version: 1.0
  36280. Content-Type: text/plain
  36281.  
  36282. Witam ...
  36283.  
  36284. Prosba do Arexowcow :
  36285.  
  36286. Potrzebuje dwa skrypty
  36287. 1. Odpala Miami( jako ikone),TimeConnect i rozpoczyna logowanie do INetu.
  36288.     Fajnie by bylo gdyby w razie zajetosci telefonu wykonal Re-Dial.
  36289. 2 Rozlacza modem, zamyka Miami i zostaje tylko TimeConnect.
  36290.  
  36291. Chcialbym po prostu podpiac sobie te skrypty pod ToolManagera tak aby Miami
  36292. nie bylo odpalane na ekranie ...
  36293.  
  36294. Za wszelkie help dzieki wielkie :)
  36295.  
  36296. Hey.
  36297.  
  36298. M.B..
  36299.  
  36300. From owner-amigapl  Fri Mar 27 01:39:51 1998
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  36303. From: Peter Drapich <docent@union.org.pl>
  36304. Reply-To: docent@union.org.pl
  36305. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  36306. Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 16:01:55 +0100
  36307. Message-ID: <yam7387.2790.135658296@mail.supermedia.pl>
  36308. In-Reply-To: <199803260709.IAA04852@www.kki.net.pl>
  36309. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  36310. Organization: Union Systems
  36311. Subject: Re: Odp: Odp: Odp: Odp: mUSASHI and AmigaOS
  36312. MIME-Version: 1.0
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  36314. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  36315.  
  36316. On 26-Mar-98, Marcin Soko=B3owski wrote:
  36317. >Czesc !
  36318. >Pozwolcie, ze wtrace swoje 3 grosze....bo chyba IMHO mylicie troszke
  36319. >pojecia...
  36320. >>Widac, ze nigdy nie pisales wiekszej ilosci kodu. Ja np. nie moge sobie=
  36321.  
  36322. >>pozwolic
  36323. >>na czekanie az sie komputer zabootuje po kazdym zwisie, zaladuje edytor=
  36324.  itp
  36325. >>W przypdaku takiego bledu, testowany program powinien dac sie usunac z
  36326. >pamieci
  36327. >>i pozwolic na kontynuacje bez problemu. Do tego ochrona pamieci jest
  36328. >>niezbedna.
  36329. >Przepraszam, ale jak ma sie ochrona pamieci do usuwania programu z pamie=
  36330. ci ?
  36331. >Raczej potrzebne tu jest sledzenie zasobow - co G95 posiada...ale do teg=
  36332. o sa
  36333. >potrzebne z kolei silne konfiguracje procesorowe.
  36334.  
  36335. Aby ten program moc usunac z pamieci, musisz MIEC taka mozliwosc, czyli
  36336. system, w ktorym posianie po pamieci nie spowoduje zwisu i oto mi chodzil=
  36337. o.
  36338.  
  36339. >Ochrona pamieci - a raczej jej brak jest tu zatem tylko *przyczyna*
  36340. >powstawania bledu, zas *metoda* jego eliminacji - to sledzenie zasobow (=
  36341. a
  36342. wiec
  36343. >i mozliwosc usuwania zawieszonego tasku - czyli *skutku*) :)))
  36344.  
  36345. Brednie. Przyczyna powstawania bledu jest blad w programie, a nie brak cz=
  36346. y
  36347. obecnosc ochrony pamieci - ona umozliwia zabezpieczenie sie przed negatyw=
  36348. nymi
  36349. skutkami takiego bledu i ew. kontynuacja pracy, czyli  np. usunieciem zad=
  36350. ania,
  36351. ktore spowodowalo blad. Sledzenie zasobow nie jest metoda eliminacji bled=
  36352. ow w
  36353. programie, jest tylko dodatkowa mozliwoscia zwolnienia zajetych przez
  36354. zawieszony program zasobow, pozwalajaca np. na jego ponowne uruchomienie.=
  36355.  
  36356.  
  36357. >Projektanci AmigaOSu chyba dobrze wiedzieli, na co sie decydowali nie
  36358. >wprowadzajac ani sledzenia zasobow (dzieki czemu nasz Oesik moze pracowa=
  36359. c na
  36360. >procesorach slabej *sorry* mocy), ani ochrony pamieci (ARexx rulez ...).=
  36361.  
  36362.  
  36363. Sledzenie zasobow nie ma duzego zwiazku z slaba moca procesora. Dodanie n=
  36364. p.
  36365. automatycznego zwalniania pamieci przy zakonczeniu pracy tasku jest banal=
  36366. ne,
  36367. mozliwe do zrobienia prawie bez jakichkolwiek kombinacji w systemie i zaj=
  36368. muje
  36369. relatywnie malo czasu. =
  36370.  
  36371. Nie wiem, co ma Arexx do ochrony pamieci. Arexx uzywa bardzo modulowej
  36372. struktury danych do porozumiewania sie z programami  - moim zdaniem Arexx=
  36373.  
  36374. raczej nie mialby zadnych problemow z ochrona pamieci. Najwiekszym proble=
  36375. mem
  36376. sa msg porty i wiadomosci, przekazujace pointery do danych miedzy taskami=
  36377. =2E
  36378.  
  36379. >Dlaczego wszyscy uwazaja, ze brak ochrony pamieci to wada Amigi ? Przeci=
  36380. ez
  36381. >taki stan rzeczy ma tez swoje zalety - na piecu nikt nie moze sterowac
  36382. poprzez
  36383. >jeden programik drugim programikiem... Przyklad ? Moze sie myle, ale LW =
  36384. i
  36385.  
  36386. Oczywiscie, ze mozna. Wystarczy wysylac odpowiednie msg, tak jak na amidz=
  36387. e.
  36388. Roznica jest taka, ze na amidze wysyla sie je do msgportu, a w win do okn=
  36389. a.
  36390.  
  36391. >Modeler - aktualizacja obiektu zrobionego w Modelerze od razu w
  36392. > Layout'cie.... Nastepny przyklad - Arexx....
  36393.  
  36394. Bajki - na OS/2 jest Rexx, ktory dziala mniej wiecej podobnie jak Arexx. =
  36395. OS/2
  36396. ma ochrone pamieci...
  36397.  
  36398. Docent
  36399.  
  36400. --
  36401. Smith & Wesson - The original point and click interface...
  36402.  
  36403. From owner-amigapl  Fri Mar 27 01:39:59 1998
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  36406. From: Peter Drapich <docent@union.org.pl>
  36407. Reply-To: docent@union.org.pl
  36408. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  36409. Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 15:38:53 +0100
  36410. Message-ID: <yam7387.2658.135658296@mail.supermedia.pl>
  36411. In-Reply-To: <199803261607.RAA01336@arka.mtl.pl>
  36412. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  36413. Organization: Union Systems
  36414. Subject: Re: Odp: mUSASHI and AmigaOS
  36415. MIME-Version: 1.0
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  36417. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  36418.  
  36419. On 25-Mar-98, Adam Zaparcinski wrote:
  36420. >>> IMHO wieszanie si=EA programu w trakcie jego tworzenia jest rzecz=B1 =
  36421. normaln=B1
  36422. i
  36423. >>> niezale=BFn=B1 od platformy. Grunt, =BFeby te wszystkie b=B3=EAdy usu=
  36424. n=B1=E6 i program
  36425. >nie
  36426. >>> wiesza=B3 si=EA w wersji ko=F1cowej.
  36427. >>
  36428. >>Co do tego to sie zgadzamy. Tyle, ze dyskusja zaczela sie wlasnie od
  36429. >>wieszania systemu w czasie pisania programu. Moim zdaniem to jest powod=
  36430. ,
  36431. >>dla ktorego wielu programistow chcialoby memory protection w AmigaOS.
  36432.  
  36433. >Fakt. Wprawdzie taka ochrona nie wyeliminowa=B3a by wszystkich b=B3=EAd=F3=
  36434. w ale
  36435. zawsze
  36436. >o te 30?, 50?, 80? procent zwis=F3w mniej. Swoj=B1 drog=B1 takie zjechan=
  36437. ie
  36438. >wska=BFnikami na cudz=B1 pami=EA=E6 da=B3oby si=EA chyba zablokowa=E6 na=
  36439.  poziomie
  36440. >kompilatora. Kompilowa=B3oby si=EA z opcj=B1 SAFE i kompilator do=B3=B1c=
  36441. za=B3by
  36442. >odpowiednie porcedurki ostrzegaj=B1ce przed takimi momentami programist=EA=
  36443. =2E
  36444. >Oczywi=B6cie po usuni=EAciu wszystkich b=B3=EAd=F3w skompilowa=B3oby si=EA=
  36445.  finaln=B1 wersj=EA
  36446. >bez tej opcji. Taki enforcer wbudowany w pisany program - to by by=B3a d=
  36447. obra
  36448. >rzecz ale chyba nikt tego nie zrealizuje.
  36449.  
  36450. Bajki - jak wyobrazasz sobie cos takiego w przypadku dynamicznej alokacji=
  36451.  
  36452. pamieci
  36453. i operacjach na pointerach lub np. przy wykorzystaniu jakis
  36454. niedeterministycznych danych wejsciowych ?
  36455.  
  36456. >>Oczekiwania uzytkownikow sa jednak inne. Szarego uzytkownika nie obchod=
  36457. zi,
  36458. >>jezeli mu sie system powiedzmy ze dwa razy dziennie wylozy - reset i po=
  36459.  
  36460. >>krzyku. Czytalem np. niedawno, ze w powaznej ankiecie przeprowadzonej n=
  36461. a
  36462. >>uzytkownikach PC w USA wyszlo, ze cos dobrze ponad 50% z nich, chyba ko=
  36463. lo
  36464. >>70%, jest bardzo zadowolonych ze swoich komputerow, z tego co one potra=
  36465. fia
  36466. >>i oferuja. Oczywiscie w ogromnej wiekszosci te komputery maja
  36467. >>zainstalowane W95. Tak wiec uzytkownikom nie przeszkadza, ze sie
  36468. >>komputer wiesza - ustawia sie autosave w edytorze raz na 1 min i juz.
  36469.  
  36470. >A tu mnie zaskoczy=B3e=B6, chocia=BF w sumie takiemu joy=B3amaczowi to w=
  36471. szystko jedno
  36472. >chyba. To mo=BFe by=E6dla nas nauka, =BFe Amiga powinna zaatakowa=E6 ryn=
  36473. ek
  36474. >komputerowych laik=F3w.
  36475.  
  36476. >>I to jest to, co mnie osobiscie niepokoi. Klientom nie zalezy na
  36477. >>stabilnosci - a skoro nie zalezy kupujacym, to po cholere maja sie star=
  36478. ac
  36479. >>sprzedajacy?
  36480.  
  36481. >To w sumie po co ten ca=B3y krzyk o ochron=EA pami=EAci skoro prawie nik=
  36482. omu nie
  36483. >przeszkadza =BFe komputer si=EA wiesza, a ludzie co chc=B1 mie=E6 supers=
  36484. tabilne
  36485. >systemy i tak instaluj=B1 sobie unixa. Mam wra=BFenie, =BFe ochrona pami=
  36486. =EAci z
  36487. punktu
  36488. >widzenia sprzeda=BFy i marketingu Amigi nie jest najwa=BFniejsza.
  36489.  
  36490. Ja chce miec stabilny system do programowania, ktory bedzie amigowym syst=
  36491. emem
  36492. a nie unixem czy win. Reszcie nalezy uswiadomic, ze tez chca.:))
  36493.  
  36494. Docent
  36495. --
  36496. Never trust anything that bleeds for five days and doesn't die.
  36497.  
  36498. From owner-amigapl  Fri Mar 27 05:39:52 1998
  36499. Received: from zskl.p.lodz.pl (root@zskl.p.lodz.pl [194.181.171.3]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id FAA20892 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 05:30:41 +0100 (MET)
  36500. Received: from amiga (krashan@pppa24.bialystok.tpnet.pl [194.204.183.24]) by zskl.p.lodz.pl (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id FAA29645 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 05:28:53 +0100
  36501. From: Grzegorz Kraszewski <krashan@amiga.org.pl>
  36502. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  36503. Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 22:22:29 +0100
  36504. Message-ID: <yam7389.1467.2016369784@zskl.p.lodz.pl>
  36505. In-Reply-To: <yam7389.1764.143063984@server.fiber.net.pl>
  36506. X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview3 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
  36507. Organization: BlaBla
  36508. Subject: Re[2]: Odp: 14" vs 15"
  36509. MIME-Version: 1.0
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  36512.  
  36513. Dnia 26-Mar-98, Marcin Orlowski napisal:
  36514.  
  36515. > I majestatu (z 2 x wolniejsza grafika na Agacie w trybach w/w etc.) ;-(=
  36516.  
  36517.  
  36518. B=B3=B1d. Tryb DBL powoduje jedynie dwa razy wi=EAksze obci=B1=BFenie mag=
  36519. istrali
  36520. pami=EAci CHIP w por=F3wnaniu do analogicznego trybu bez DBL, co wcale ni=
  36521. e musi
  36522. oznacza=E6 (i nie oznacza) dwukrotnego spowolnienia grafiki. Ja na swojej=
  36523.  
  36524. 030/50 u=BFywam do Workbencha DBLPAL HighRes NoFlicker (672x512) w 32 kol=
  36525. orach
  36526. i na szybko=B6=E6 grafiki nie narzekam. A s=B1 jeszcze przecie=BF karty g=
  36527. raficzne...
  36528.  
  36529. Krashan
  36530.  
  36531. -- =
  36532.  
  36533. Grzegorz Kraszewski
  36534. on the scene Krashan/BlaBla
  36535. krashan@cksr.ac.bialystok.pl   to 1-Jul-1998
  36536. Amiga1200/030@50/10MB/HDD/CD/33.6kbps
  36537.  
  36538. BLABLA - IT MEANS SYSTEM FRIENDLY
  36539. ---------------------------------
  36540.  
  36541. From owner-amigapl  Fri Mar 27 05:40:04 1998
  36542. Received: from zskl.p.lodz.pl (root@zskl.p.lodz.pl [194.181.171.3]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id FAA20894 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 05:30:43 +0100 (MET)
  36543. Received: from amiga (krashan@pppa24.bialystok.tpnet.pl [194.204.183.24]) by zskl.p.lodz.pl (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id FAA29650 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 05:28:55 +0100
  36544. From: Grzegorz Kraszewski <krashan@cksr.ac.bialystok.pl>
  36545. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  36546. Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 22:19:21 +0100
  36547. Message-ID: <yam7389.1078.2016369784@zskl.p.lodz.pl>
  36548. In-Reply-To: <yam7388.1700.139279944@fiber.net.pl>
  36549. X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview3 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
  36550. Organization: BlaBla
  36551. Subject: Re[2]: Paula vs SoundBlaster
  36552. MIME-Version: 1.0
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  36555.  
  36556. Dnia 25-Mar-98, Miloslaw Smyk napisal:
  36557.  
  36558. > Z drugiej jednak strony 14-bitowy sygna=B3 z Amigi jest bardzo cichy i =
  36559. s=B3abo
  36560. > odstaje od szum=F3w t=B3a.
  36561.  
  36562. Je=BFeli ma si=EA kiepski sprz=EAt audio... U mnie nie ma =BFadnych szum=F3=
  36563. w.
  36564.  
  36565. > Najlepiej, zamiast teoretyzowa=E6, postawi=E6 obie maszyny obok
  36566. > siebie i zrobi=E6 test.
  36567.  
  36568. Niew=B1tpliwie tak, niestety u siebie nie mam takiej mo=BFliwo=B6ci. Niem=
  36569. niej u
  36570. znajomego s=B3ysza=B3em co nieco z karty typu SB clone.
  36571.  =
  36572.  
  36573. > > - algorytmy miksuj=B1ce kana=B3y s=B1 o wiele lepsze np. w AHI ni=BF =
  36574. w kartach
  36575. na
  36576. > > pece (tylko najdro=BFsze karty na pece maj=B1 kana=B3y miksowane anal=
  36577. ogowo, w
  36578. > > popularnych miksowanie jest cyfrowe tak jak w AHI)
  36579. > =
  36580.  
  36581. > A co takiego dobrego w miksowaniu analogowym?
  36582.  
  36583. Za=B3=F3=BFmy, =BFe masz modek 32 kana=B3owy z samplami 16-bit. Je=BFeli =
  36584. chcesz to
  36585. upcha=E6 w 2 kana=B3y po 16 bit, to w najlepszym wypadku z ka=BFdego samp=
  36586. la
  36587. tracisz 4 najm=B3odsze bity, a bior=B1c pod uwag=EA stereo panning to 5. =
  36588. Wynika to
  36589. z tego, =BFe miksowanie jest programowe przed konwersj=B1 D/A, a wi=EAc c=
  36590. yfrowe.
  36591. Natomiast s=B1 karty np. z 32 kana=B3ami po 16 bit=F3w (tzn. ka=BFdy kana=
  36592. =B3 ma sw=F3j
  36593. przetwornik D/A) z regulacj=B1 wzmocnienia i miksowaniem po stronie
  36594. analogowej. W takim przypadku nie tracisz z sampla ani jednego bitu. I to=
  36595.  
  36596. jest ta r=F3=BFnica. Czy j=B1 s=B3ycha=E6? Moim zdaniem tak, ale najlepie=
  36597. j by=B3oby
  36598. postawi=E6 dwie maszyny obok siebie...:-) =
  36599.  
  36600.  
  36601. Krashan
  36602.  
  36603. -- =
  36604.  
  36605. Grzegorz Kraszewski
  36606. on the scene Krashan/BlaBla
  36607. krashan@cksr.ac.bialystok.pl   to 1-Jul-1998
  36608. Amiga1200/030@50/10MB/HDD/CD/33.6kbps
  36609.  
  36610. BLABLA - IT MEANS SYSTEM FRIENDLY
  36611. ---------------------------------
  36612.  
  36613. From owner-amigapl  Fri Mar 27 05:40:15 1998
  36614. Received: from zskl.p.lodz.pl (root@zskl.p.lodz.pl [194.181.171.3]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id FAA20902 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 05:31:06 +0100 (MET)
  36615. Received: from amiga (krashan@pppa24.bialystok.tpnet.pl [194.204.183.24]) by zskl.p.lodz.pl (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id FAA29675 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 05:29:17 +0100
  36616. From: Grzegorz Kraszewski <krashan@cksr.ac.bialystok.pl>
  36617. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  36618. Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 06:31:54 +0100
  36619. Message-ID: <yam7389.2736.2017353352@zskl.p.lodz.pl>
  36620. In-Reply-To: <yam7387.1644.138242216@mail.supermedia.pl>
  36621. X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview3 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
  36622. Organization: BlaBla
  36623. Subject: Re[2]: Odp: Odp: Odp: mUSASHI and AmigaOS
  36624. MIME-Version: 1.0
  36625. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  36626. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  36627.  
  36628. Dnia 24-Mar-98, Peter Drapich napisal:
  36629.  
  36630. > na czekanie az sie komputer zabootuje po kazdym zwisie, zaladuje edytor=
  36631.  
  36632. itp
  36633. > W przypdaku takiego bledu, testowany program powinien dac sie usunac z
  36634. pamieci
  36635. > i pozwolic na kontynuacje bez problemu. Do tego ochrona pamieci jest
  36636. > niezbedna.
  36637.  
  36638. Tak, ale =BFeby by=B3o jasne - potrzebna jest ona programi=B6cie, a nie k=
  36639. o=F1cowemu
  36640. u=BFytkownikowi programu.
  36641.  
  36642. > Oczywiscie, ze systemu, ktory nie gwarantuje bezpiecznej pracy po ew.
  36643. zwisie.
  36644. > Np mnie ostatnio wkurza cprppc, ktory wali sie tak czesto, ze debugowan=
  36645. ie
  36646. > programu
  36647. > na ppc nie jest w ogole mozliwe. Mimo cyberguarda itp tooli w pamieci,
  36648. maszyna
  36649. > sie resetuje. Gdyby byla ochrona pamieci, z reguly byloby to wylapane b=
  36650. ez
  36651. > szkod albo
  36652. > chociaz jakies dodatkowe informacje bm mial. A tak, reset i kupa.
  36653.  
  36654. Nie no, pewnych spraw nie mo=BFemy przegina=E6 :-). To =BFe cprppc si=EA =
  36655. wali, to
  36656. jest wina autor=F3w tego=BF cprppc i nikogo innego, ewentualnie hackerski=
  36657. ch
  36658. nak=B3adek zainstalowanych w systemie (a mo=BFe w=B3a=B6nie "cyberguarda =
  36659. itp tooli w
  36660. pami=EAci"?). IMO ochrona pami=EAci wprowadzona do systemu na sta=B3e to =
  36661. spos=F3b na
  36662. przerzucenie cz=EA=B6ci koszt=F3w tworzenia oprogramowania z programist=F3=
  36663. w na
  36664. u=BFytkownik=F3w. Bo taka ochrona wymaga pewnych zasob=F3w sprz=EAtowych,=
  36665.  czy=BF nie?
  36666. A za to p=B3aci u=BFytkownik...
  36667.  
  36668. I jeszcze zauwa=BF=EA, =BFe nawet gdyby ochrona pami=EAci zapobiega=B3a z=
  36669. waleniu
  36670. systemu
  36671. przez cprppc, to sam ten task i tak prawdopodobnie by zawis=B3 ("Program
  36672. cprppc wykona=B3 nieprawid=B3ow=B1 operacj=EA" ;-))), i po kilku odpaleni=
  36673. ach i tak
  36674. zabrak=B3oby Ci pami=EAci -> reboot systemu...
  36675.  
  36676. Krashan
  36677.  =
  36678.  
  36679. -- =
  36680.  
  36681. Grzegorz Kraszewski
  36682. on the scene Krashan/BlaBla
  36683. krashan@cksr.ac.bialystok.pl   to 1-Jul-1998
  36684. Amiga1200/030@50/10MB/HDD/CD/33.6kbps
  36685.  
  36686. BLABLA - IT MEANS SYSTEM FRIENDLY
  36687. ---------------------------------
  36688.  
  36689. From owner-amigapl  Fri Mar 27 05:40:26 1998
  36690. Received: from zskl.p.lodz.pl (root@zskl.p.lodz.pl [194.181.171.3]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id FAA20900 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 05:31:02 +0100 (MET)
  36691. Received: from amiga (krashan@pppa24.bialystok.tpnet.pl [194.204.183.24]) by zskl.p.lodz.pl (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id FAA29668 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 05:29:14 +0100
  36692. From: Grzegorz Kraszewski <krashan@cksr.ac.bialystok.pl>
  36693. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  36694. Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 06:33:40 +0100
  36695. Message-ID: <yam7389.2006.2017353352@zskl.p.lodz.pl>
  36696. In-Reply-To: <yam7388.2749.139279944@fiber.net.pl>
  36697. X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview3 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
  36698. Organization: BlaBla
  36699. Subject: Re[2]: Jak wymusic deklaracje zmiennych w CHIP RAM
  36700. MIME-Version: 1.0
  36701. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  36702. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  36703.  
  36704. Dnia 25-Mar-98, Miloslaw Smyk napisal:
  36705. > Dnia 25-Mar-98, Piotr Hoppe rzek=B3 co nast=EApuje:
  36706. > =
  36707.  
  36708. > > Tworze pewna klase (do grafiki), w ktorej czes danych graficznych
  36709. powinna =
  36710.  
  36711. > > sie znalesc odrazu w CHIP'ie, narazie poradzilem sobie z uzyciem
  36712. AllokMem
  36713. > > i =
  36714.  
  36715. > > ComyMem, jednak powoduje to, ze dane niepotrzebnie pozostaja w pamiec=
  36716. i =
  36717.  
  36718. > > fast.
  36719. > =
  36720.  
  36721. > =AFaden wsp=F3=B3czesny program, za wyj=B1tkiem mega-cool-demoz nie pow=
  36722. inien nic
  36723. > bezpo=B6rednio wpycha=E6 do CHIP-u. Na kartach graficznych spowalnia to=
  36724.  
  36725. spraw=EA,
  36726. > a taki np. Draco w og=F3le nie ma CHIP-RAM-u.
  36727.  
  36728. Nic doda=E6, nic uj=B1=E6.
  36729.  
  36730. > > Czy ktos wie jak zrobic to inaczej?
  36731.  
  36732. Trzeba wywo=B3a=E6 funkcj=EA AllocBitMap z ustawion=B1 flag=B1 BMF_DISPLA=
  36733. YABLE. Na Amy
  36734. bez karty graficznej spowoduje to zaalokowanie pami=EAci w CHIP-ie, a prz=
  36735. y
  36736. karcie, to jak ju=BF tam ona sobie za=BFyczy (przewa=BFnie w FAST). A co =
  36737. do straty
  36738. pami=EAci - je=BFeli to ma=B3e dane (jaki=B6 brush) to si=EA nie przejmuj=
  36739. , a je=B6li
  36740. wi=EAksze - wczytuj z oddzielnego pliku.
  36741.  
  36742. Krashan
  36743. -- =
  36744.  
  36745. Grzegorz Kraszewski
  36746. on the scene Krashan/BlaBla
  36747. krashan@cksr.ac.bialystok.pl   to 1-Jul-1998
  36748. Amiga1200/030@50/10MB/HDD/CD/33.6kbps
  36749.  
  36750. BLABLA - IT MEANS SYSTEM FRIENDLY
  36751. ---------------------------------
  36752.  
  36753. From owner-amigapl  Fri Mar 27 05:40:36 1998
  36754. Received: from zskl.p.lodz.pl (root@zskl.p.lodz.pl [194.181.171.3]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id FAA20896 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 05:30:57 +0100 (MET)
  36755. Received: from amiga (krashan@pppa24.bialystok.tpnet.pl [194.204.183.24]) by zskl.p.lodz.pl (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id FAA29655 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 05:28:57 +0100
  36756. From: Grzegorz Kraszewski <krashan@cksr.ac.bialystok.pl>
  36757. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  36758. Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 22:17:50 +0100
  36759. Message-ID: <yam7389.2513.2016369784@zskl.p.lodz.pl>
  36760. In-Reply-To: <199803261608.RAA01348@arka.mtl.pl>
  36761. X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview3 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
  36762. Organization: BlaBla
  36763. Subject: Re: Pare spraw
  36764. MIME-Version: 1.0
  36765. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  36766. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  36767.  
  36768. Dnia 26-Mar-98, Adam Zaparcinski napisal:
  36769.  =
  36770.  
  36771. > 2. To pytanie developerskie: Czy kto=B6 wie jak zrobi=E6 w MUI =BFeby o=
  36772. dbiera=E6
  36773. > naci=B6ni=EAcia r=F3=BFnych klawiszy w aktywnym oknie? Przyk=B3adowo st=
  36774. worzy=B3em
  36775. jaki=B6
  36776. > obiekt w=B3asnej klasy b=EAd=B1cej podklas=B1list i chc=EA aby naci=B6n=
  36777. i=EAcie del
  36778. usuwa=B3o
  36779. > pozycj=EA z listy. Oczywi=B6cie mam metod=EA usuwaj=B1c=B1 tak=B1 pozyc=
  36780. j=EA problem
  36781. tylko
  36782. > jak do tego podczepi=E6 klawisz.
  36783.  
  36784. Trzeba w takiej klasie napisa=E6 metod=EA MUIM_HandleInput, a w metodzie
  36785. reagowa=E6 na IDCMP_RAWKEY. Je=BFeli msg->imsg->Code pasuje do Delete (mo=
  36786. =BFna te=BF
  36787. sprawdza=E6 qualifiery) to wywo=B3ujesz metod=EA kasuj=B1c=B1. Oczywi=B6c=
  36788. ie nie zapomnij
  36789. o MUI_Request/RejectIDCMP() w MUIM_Setup i MUIM_Cleanup. Je=BFeli nie chc=
  36790. esz
  36791. zablokowa=E6 standardowej obs=B3ugi list przez klawiatur=EA w MUI, wywo=B3=
  36792. aj
  36793. DoSuperMethodA() na ko=F1cu metody. Pr=F3bowa=B3em te=BF z IDCMP_VANILLAK=
  36794. EY, ale
  36795. niestety za=BF=B1danie takiego IDCMP powodowa=B3o zablokowanie "chodzenia=
  36796. " po
  36797. gad=BFetach TAB-em.
  36798.  
  36799. Krashan
  36800.  
  36801. -- =
  36802.  
  36803. Grzegorz Kraszewski
  36804. on the scene Krashan/BlaBla
  36805. krashan@cksr.ac.bialystok.pl   to 1-Jul-1998
  36806. Amiga1200/030@50/10MB/HDD/CD/33.6kbps
  36807.  
  36808. BLABLA - IT MEANS SYSTEM FRIENDLY
  36809. ---------------------------------
  36810.  
  36811. From owner-amigapl  Fri Mar 27 07:39:52 1998
  36812. Received: from piast.pertus.com.pl (root@piast.pertus.com.pl [195.116.191.6]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA21053 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 07:15:34 +0100 (MET)
  36813. Received: from default (ppp171.legnica.tpnet.pl [195.116.255.171])
  36814.     by piast.pertus.com.pl (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id HAA05444
  36815.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 07:19:00 +0100
  36816. Message-Id: <199803270619.HAA05444@piast.pertus.com.pl>
  36817. From: "Arkadiusz Winiarek" <sharky@pertus.com.pl>
  36818. To: <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  36819. Subject: Macintosh i joye
  36820. Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 07:15:55 +0100
  36821. X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
  36822. X-Priority: 3
  36823. X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1157
  36824. MIME-Version: 1.0
  36825. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2
  36826. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  36827.  
  36828. Hej!
  36829.  
  36830. Jest sobie gdzies na aminecie programik o nazwie MacJoy. Jego dzialanie =
  36831. pozwala uzywac na Macu amigowego joya. Tylko, ze ten programik pozwala =
  36832. sprawnie bawic sie na Macu tylko jednym joyem. Moze ktos z Was szanowni
  36833. listowicze zna sie na tyle na Ami, by skrobnac taki programik, ktory =
  36834. obslugiwal by dwa joye.
  36835.  
  36836. Jezeli ktos czuje sie na silach, to prosze o odzew. Mysle, ze nie tylko =
  36837. ja jestem zainteresowny tym tematem.
  36838.  
  36839.  
  36840. 3majcie sie (swojej Ami)!!!
  36841.  
  36842.          "Sharky" Arkadiusz Winiarek
  36843.                  Happy Amiga User!
  36844. A-1200T/2.1GB/1260/50/32MB Fast RAM
  36845.                  Jawor woj. legnickie
  36846. From owner-amigapl  Fri Mar 27 09:09:52 1998
  36847. Received: from friko.onet.pl (friko.onet.pl [194.204.191.9]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA21182 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 09:07:29 +0100 (MET)
  36848. Received: from priv.onet.pl (Siera@pppa39.poznan.tpnet.pl [194.204.178.39])
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  36850.       id JAA24991 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 09:00:40 +0100
  36851. From: Siera <sie@friko.onet.pl>
  36852. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  36853. Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 09:01:33 +0100
  36854. Message-ID: <yam7390.1700.120347752@priv.onet.pl>
  36855. In-Reply-To: <yam7389.978.139365336@www.tpnet.pl>
  36856. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  36857. Subject: Re[2]: *** Linux na Amidze ***
  36858. MIME-Version: 1.0
  36859. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  36860. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  36861.  
  36862. Dnia 26-Mar-98, Kamil Drzewi=F1ski napisal:
  36863. > =
  36864.  
  36865. > =
  36866.  
  36867. >> ...a czy byloby wiecej zainteresowanych ?
  36868. >> czasu mialem postawionego Watchtowera, potem NetBSD, a teraz
  36869. >> RedHata (do tego zostaje Debian, LinuxPPC - co prawda wersja
  36870. >> "beta" i pewnie duzo sie trzeba przy niej napracowac, zreszta i tak
  36871. >> sie nie zmiesci na jedenj plytce)  , =
  36872.  
  36873. >> mam, sciagniecie dystrybucji Linuxa to nie
  36874. >> , kwestia czy byloby wiecej chetnych osob na taka skladanke ?
  36875. > =
  36876.  
  36877. > OK. Jestem zainteresowany, szczegolnie wersja ppc.   =
  36878.  
  36879.  
  36880.  
  36881. Proponuje zrobic strone www z jakims formulazem a tak prz okazji to ja je=
  36882. stem
  36883. tez zainteresowany tylko 68k
  36884.  
  36885.       _____ _ _____ _____________
  36886.      |     | |     |     \       |     A4000/040/25MHz/16Mb/545Mb/CV64
  36887.      |   --| |  ---|  O   |   |  |     mailto: sie@priv.onet.pl
  36888.      |     | |     |     /       |     priv.onet.pl/po/sie/ =
  36889.  
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  36901.  
  36902.  
  36903.  
  36904. From owner-amigapl  Fri Mar 27 09:39:59 1998
  36905. Received: from orka.szczecin.tpnet.pl ([194.204.141.12]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA21212 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 09:13:09 +0100 (MET)
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  36910. From: Admin <owner-amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  36911. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  36912. Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 21:32:16 +0100
  36913. Message-ID: <yam7389.828.142349800@www.szczecin.tpnet.pl>
  36914. In-Reply-To: <19980326184600.59816@plukwa.pdi.net>
  36915. X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 beta10 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
  36916. Organization: W.F.M.H.   (http://wfmh.org.pl)
  36917. Subject: Re: Wstepniak w MA 3/98
  36918. MIME-Version: 1.0
  36919. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  36920. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  36921.  
  36922. Dnia 26-Mar-98, Artur Pietruk napisa=B3:
  36923.  
  36924. >> Oki, z tego co wiem Twoje podk=B3ady zosta=B3y zdj=EAte ze strony.
  36925. >     Przepraszam bardzo, z ktorej strony zostaly zdjete? Bo teraz jest
  36926. > czwartek, godzina 18:44 a na stronie http://www.dom.VR.pl/~drchiry/ nad=
  36927. al
  36928. > sa te podklady.
  36929. >>>> PS. Nie jeste=B6 pozbawiony kultury, dzi=EAki za uwag=EA, szkoda tyl=
  36930. ko, =BFe by=B3a =
  36931.  
  36932. >>>> ona tak k=B1=B6liwa. :(((
  36933. >>> A ja zaluje ze nie byla bardziej kasliwa, gdyz uwazam niestety ze
  36934.  
  36935. Zako=F1czcie ju=BF te publiczne przepychanki.
  36936.  
  36937. EOT!
  36938.  
  36939. -- =
  36940.  
  36941.  Admin                           mailto:owner-amigapl@amiga.com.pl
  36942.  
  36943.  
  36944.  
  36945. From owner-amigapl  Fri Mar 27 09:40:10 1998
  36946. Received: from orka.szczecin.tpnet.pl ([194.204.141.12]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA21208 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 09:12:49 +0100 (MET)
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  36950.           Fri, 27 Mar 1998 09:11:37 +0100
  36951. From: Marcin Orlowski <carlos@wfmh.org.pl>
  36952. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  36953. Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 08:47:43 +0100
  36954. Message-ID: <yam7390.2154.142164048@www.szczecin.tpnet.pl>
  36955. In-Reply-To: <199803261608.RAA01348@arka.mtl.pl>
  36956. X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 beta10 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
  36957. Organization: W.F.M.H.   (http://wfmh.org.pl)
  36958. Subject: Re: Pare spraw
  36959. MIME-Version: 1.0
  36960. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  36961. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  36962.  
  36963. Dnia 26-Mar-98, Adam Zaparcinski napisa=B3:
  36964.  
  36965. > 2. To pytanie developerskie: Czy kto=B6 wie jak zrobi=E6 w MUI =BFeby o=
  36966. dbiera=E6
  36967. > naci=B6ni=EAcia r=F3=BFnych klawiszy w aktywnym oknie? Przyk=B3adowo st=
  36968. worzy=B3em jaki=B6
  36969.  
  36970. Pro=B6ciej b=EAdzie ustawi=E6 notyfikacj=EA u=BFywaj=B1=E6 MUIA_Window_In=
  36971. putEvent, ni=BF
  36972. sprawdza=E6 samemu.
  36973.  
  36974. -- =
  36975.  
  36976.  My software never has bugs. It just develops random features.
  36977.  
  36978.  Marcin                              http://wfmh.org.pl/~carlos/
  36979.                                        mailto:carlos@wfmh.org.pl
  36980.  
  36981.  
  36982. From owner-amigapl  Fri Mar 27 10:40:09 1998
  36983. Received: from friko.onet.pl (friko.onet.pl [194.204.191.9]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA21352 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 10:12:19 +0100 (MET)
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  36986.       id KAA01555; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 10:05:18 +0100
  36987. From: Siera <sie@friko.onet.pl>
  36988. To: amiga@plearn.edu.pl, amigapl@amiga.com.pl
  36989. Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 09:07:48 +0100
  36990. Message-ID: <yam7390.2404.120352072@priv.onet.pl>
  36991. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  36992. Subject: Amigowy Poznan
  36993. MIME-Version: 1.0
  36994. Content-Type: text/plain
  36995.  
  36996. Hi,
  36997. Moze bysmy zrobili wzorem Lodzian tez takie cotygodniowe albo co 2tygodniowe
  36998. spotkania amigowcow Poanania. Tylko ilu nas naprawde jest.????
  36999.  
  37000.       _____ _ _____ _____________
  37001.      |     | |     |     \       |     A4000/040/25MHz/16Mb/545Mb/CV64
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  37007.   
  37008.      
  37009.       
  37010.       
  37011.  
  37012.  
  37013.  
  37014. From owner-amigapl  Fri Mar 27 11:10:01 1998
  37015. Received: from rose.man.poznan.pl (root@rose.man.poznan.pl [150.254.173.3]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA21578 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 11:07:01 +0100 (MET)
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  37023. Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 11:03:04 +0100 (MET)
  37024. From: "Marcin Juszkiewicz (Szczepan/BlaBla)" <szczepan@cksr.ac.bialystok.pl>
  37025. X-Sender: szczepan@cksr
  37026. To: Lista dyskusyjna uzytkownikow komputerow AMIGA <AMIGA@plearn.edu.pl>,
  37027.         AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  37028. Subject: amigaguide.library/OpenAmigaGuideAsyncA()
  37029. Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.96.980327110238.14553F-100000@cksr>
  37030. MIME-Version: 1.0
  37031. Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
  37032.  
  37033.  
  37034.  Hi !
  37035.  
  37036.    Potrzebuje wszelkich sourcow na temat powyzszej funkcji. Jest mi to
  37037. potrzebne do mego MultiViewa by miec asynchroniczne pokazywanie wielu
  37038. plikow via datatypy.
  37039.  
  37040.  
  37041. ------
  37042.  Marcin Juszkiewicz (Szczepan/BlaBla)   *Team Amiga*
  37043.  szczepan@cksr.ac.bialystok.pl  http://cksr.ac.bialystok.pl/szczepan/
  37044.  A1200 BlizzIv 2+8MB RAM 425MB HDD
  37045.  Author of MultiView for OS 2.0+ -> Aminet:util/sys/2b_mv_os2_x.lha
  37046.  
  37047.  
  37048. From owner-amigapl  Fri Mar 27 11:10:14 1998
  37049. Received: from rose.man.poznan.pl (root@rose.man.poznan.pl [150.254.173.3]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA21567 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 11:04:56 +0100 (MET)
  37050. Received: from buteo.man.bialystok.pl (buteo.man.bialystok.pl [194.181.132.1])
  37051.     by rose.man.poznan.pl (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA01053;
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  37057. Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 11:00:39 +0100 (MET)
  37058. From: "Marcin Juszkiewicz (Szczepan/BlaBla)" <szczepan@cksr.ac.bialystok.pl>
  37059. X-Sender: szczepan@cksr
  37060. To: Lista dyskusyjna uzytkownikow komputerow AMIGA <AMIGA@plearn.edu.pl>,
  37061.         AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  37062. Subject: MultiView dla OS 2.0+
  37063. Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.96.980327105707.14553C-100000@cksr>
  37064. MIME-Version: 1.0
  37065. Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
  37066.  
  37067.  
  37068.  Hi !
  37069.  
  37070.   Wlasnie poslalem do Aminetu najnowsze wersje moich programow :
  37071.  
  37072.    MultiView dla OS 2.0+ ver 3.5 -> util/sys/2b_mv_os2
  37073.    MultiView Preferences ver 2.0 -> util/sys/2b_mv_prefs
  37074.  
  37075.   Do MV dodalem MultiSelect w filerequesterze, zas preferencje to
  37076. praktycznie calkiem inny program pod wzgledem kodu.
  37077.  
  37078.   Czekam na ewentualne bugraporty i sugestie. (w planach mam
  37079. asynchroniczne pokazywanie via datatypy).
  37080.  
  37081.  
  37082. ------
  37083.  Marcin Juszkiewicz (Szczepan/BlaBla)   *Team Amiga*
  37084.  szczepan@cksr.ac.bialystok.pl  http://cksr.ac.bialystok.pl/szczepan/
  37085.  A1200 BlizzIv 2+8MB RAM 425MB HDD
  37086.  Author of MultiView for OS 2.0+ -> Aminet:util/sys/2b_mv_os2_x.lha
  37087.  
  37088. From owner-amigapl  Fri Mar 27 11:10:26 1998
  37089. Received: from onet.pl (root@onet.pl [194.204.188.6]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA21515 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 10:50:33 +0100 (MET)
  37090. Received: from mk (ppp-wct446.katowice.tpnet.pl [195.205.241.146])
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  37092.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 10:46:21 +0100 (MET)
  37093. From: "Wojciech Kocjan" <kocjan@ka.onet.pl>
  37094. To: "AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi" <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  37095. Subject: Re: mUSASHI and AmigaOS
  37096. Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 10:25:02 +0100
  37097. Message-ID: <01bd5962$387e24a0$fdfefe01@mk>
  37098. MIME-Version: 1.0
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  37100.     charset="iso-8859-2"
  37101. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
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  37103. X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
  37104. X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3
  37105. X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3
  37106.  
  37107. You wrote:
  37108. >>Oczekiwania uzytkownikow sa jednak inne. Szarego uzytkownika nie obchodzi,
  37109. >>jezeli mu sie system powiedzmy ze dwa razy dziennie wylozy - reset i po
  37110. >>krzyku. Czytalem np. niedawno, ze w powaznej ankiecie przeprowadzonej na
  37111. >>uzytkownikach PC w USA wyszlo, ze cos dobrze ponad 50% z nich, chyba kolo
  37112. >>70%, jest bardzo zadowolonych ze swoich komputerow, z tego co one potrafia
  37113. >>i oferuja. Oczywiscie w ogromnej wiekszosci te komputery maja
  37114. >>zainstalowane W95. Tak wiec uzytkownikom nie przeszkadza, ze sie
  37115. >>komputer wiesza - ustawia sie autosave w edytorze raz na 1 min i juz.
  37116. >
  37117. >A tu mnie zaskoczy³e¶, chocia¿ w sumie takiemu joy³amaczowi to wszystko
  37118. jedno
  37119. >chyba. To mo¿e byædla nas nauka, ¿e Amiga powinna zaatakowaæ rynek
  37120. >komputerowych laików.
  37121.  
  37122. Mnie te¿. Ja mam i pieca i Amige i bardzo mnie wkurza w pc, ¿e np. m$
  37123. internet explorer siê tak sobie wiesza przy wgrywaniu siê - bez powodu. Ale
  37124. to s± stany. Wiêkszo¶æ znajomych pecetowców klnie na w95, a zw³aszcza na
  37125. w³a¶nie owe wieszanie siê. Ale mo¿na siê pocieszyæ - windows 98 siê jeszcze
  37126. bardziej wiesza (a przynajmniej ta beta, któr± widzia³em).
  37127.  
  37128. A co do ataku na rynek laików, to mo¿e najpierw zmieñmy image Amigi -
  37129. wiêkszo¶æ ludzi kojarzy j± z A500 +0,5MB RAM i bez twardziela. A kto
  37130. chcia³by kupiæ taki komputer? Zapewne wiêkszo¶æ Amigowców ma ju¿ lepsze
  37131. konfigi - karty turbo, twardziele, RAM, CD-ROMy. A poza tym sami piecowcy w
  37132. wiêkszo¶ci wyrobili w sobie kompleks wy¿szo¶ci - jak siê w³aduje ok. 40-50
  37133. baniek w maszynê, to siê chce czuæ lepszym od innych, nie? A przynajmniej
  37134. jest tak u moich znajomych. A prawda jest taka, ¿e maj± zacofany sprzêt. O
  37135. sofcie nie wspominam (chocia¿ s± wyj±tki).
  37136.  
  37137.  
  37138. From owner-amigapl  Fri Mar 27 11:10:37 1998
  37139. Received: from onet.pl (root@onet.pl [194.204.188.6]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA21528 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 10:54:23 +0100 (MET)
  37140. Received: from mk (ppp-wct446.katowice.tpnet.pl [195.205.241.146])
  37141.     by onet.pl (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA14293
  37142.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 10:51:33 +0100 (MET)
  37143. From: "Wojciech Kocjan" <kocjan@ka.onet.pl>
  37144. To: "AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi" <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  37145. Subject: Re: Re[2]: Jak wymusic deklaracje zmiennych w CHIP RAM
  37146. Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 10:51:24 +0100
  37147. Message-ID: <01bd5965$e794cea0$fdfefe01@mk>
  37148. MIME-Version: 1.0
  37149. Content-Type: text/plain;
  37150.     charset="iso-8859-2"
  37151. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
  37152. X-Priority: 3
  37153. X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
  37154. X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3
  37155. X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3
  37156.  
  37157. You wrote:
  37158.  
  37159. >> > Czy ktos wie jak zrobic to inaczej?
  37160. >
  37161. >Trzeba wywo³aæ funkcjê AllocBitMap z ustawion± flag± BMF_DISPLAYABLE. Na
  37162. Amy
  37163. >bez karty graficznej spowoduje to zaalokowanie pamiêci w CHIP-ie, a przy
  37164. >karcie, to jak ju¿ tam ona sobie za¿yczy (przewa¿nie w FAST). A co do
  37165. straty
  37166. >pamiêci - je¿eli to ma³e dane (jaki¶ brush) to siê nie przejmuj, a je¶li
  37167. >wiêksze - wczytuj z oddzielnego pliku.
  37168.  
  37169. Ja te¿ mam taki problem, te¿ zwi±zany z alokacj± pamiêci do grafiki -
  37170. potrzebujê mieæ bitplany po sobie (jako jeden blok pamiêci). Tego chyba
  37171. AllocBitMap() nie zrobi.
  37172.  
  37173. Wojciech Kocjan
  37174. mailto:kocjan@ka.onet.pl        http://priv.onet.pl/ka/wkocjan/
  37175. GSM: +48 601 473237             SMS mailto:48601473237@text.plusgsm.pl
  37176. AUTHOR OF AStartV4, ANETGUI, NEWFMT.LIBRARY and other things
  37177. ---
  37178. "Software suppliers are trying to make their software packages more
  37179. 'user-friendly'.... Their best approach, so far, has been to take
  37180. all the old brochures, and stamp the words, 'user-friendly' on the cover."
  37181. -- Bill Gates, Pres., Microsoft, Inc.
  37182.  
  37183. From owner-amigapl  Fri Mar 27 12:09:53 1998
  37184. Received: from ernie.icslab.agh.edu.pl (kiskra@ernie.icslab.agh.edu.pl [149.156.98.14]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA21738 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 12:03:54 +0100 (MET)
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  37187. Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 12:01:52 +0100 (MET)
  37188. From: Kamil Iskra <kiskra@ernie.icslab.agh.edu.pl>
  37189. X-Sender: kiskra@ernie
  37190. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  37191. Subject: Re: mUSASHI and AmigaOS
  37192. In-Reply-To: <yam7389.2736.2017353352@zskl.p.lodz.pl>
  37193. Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.95.980327115921.20034B-100000@ernie>
  37194. MIME-Version: 1.0
  37195. Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-2
  37196. Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE
  37197.  
  37198. On Thu, 26 Mar 1998, Grzegorz Kraszewski wrote:
  37199.  
  37200. > IMO ochrona pami=EAci wprowadzona do systemu na sta=B3e to spos=F3b na
  37201. > przerzucenie cz=EA=B6ci koszt=F3w tworzenia oprogramowania z programist=
  37202. =F3w na
  37203. > u=BFytkownik=F3w. Bo taka ochrona wymaga pewnych zasob=F3w sprz=EAtowych,=
  37204.  czy=BF nie?
  37205. > A za to p=B3aci u=BFytkownik...
  37206.  
  37207. ZAWSZE p=B3aci u=BFytkownik. Je=BFeli nie ma ochrony pami=EAci, to program
  37208. powstaje wolniej, wi=EAc jest w efekcie dro=BFszy.
  37209.  
  37210. > I jeszcze zauwa=BF=EA, =BFe nawet gdyby ochrona pami=EAci zapobiega=B3a z=
  37211. waleniu
  37212. > systemu
  37213. > przez cprppc, to sam ten task i tak prawdopodobnie by zawis=B3 ("Program
  37214. > cprppc wykona=B3 nieprawid=B3ow=B1 operacj=EA" ;-))), i po kilku odpaleni=
  37215. ach i tak
  37216. > zabrak=B3oby Ci pami=EAci -> reboot systemu...
  37217.  
  37218. A ja zauwa=BF=EA, =BFe gdy ju=BF w systemie jest ochrona pami=EAci, to =B6l=
  37219. edzenie
  37220. zasob=F3w jest znacznie prostsze, wi=EAc mo=BFna zwalnia=E6 ca=B3=B1 pami=
  37221. =EA=E6 zajmowan=B1
  37222. przez takie wy=B3o=BFone procesy.
  37223.  
  37224. / Kamil Iskra    AmigaOS  Linux/i386  Linux/m68k               \
  37225. | GeekGadgets GCC maintainer   UNIX system administrator       |
  37226. | iskra@student.uci.agh.edu.pl  kiskra@ernie.icslab.agh.edu.pl |
  37227. \ kamil@dwd.interkom.pl   http://student.uci.agh.edu.pl/~iskra /
  37228.  
  37229. From owner-amigapl  Fri Mar 27 13:39:58 1998
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  37234. Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 13:10:12 +0100 (MET)
  37235. From: "LeMUr of blabla (Lukasz Prokulski)" <lemi@mops.uci.agh.edu.pl>
  37236. Sender: lemi@mops.uci.agh.edu.pl
  37237. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  37238. Subject: Re[2]: Jak wymusic deklaracje zmiennych w CHIP RAM
  37239. In-Reply-To: <01bd5965$e794cea0$fdfefe01@mk>
  37240. Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.980327130654.14424A-100000@mops>
  37241. MIME-Version: 1.0
  37242. Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
  37243. Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE
  37244.  
  37245. On Fri, 27 Mar 1998, Wojciech Kocjan wrote:
  37246. > Ja te=BF mam taki problem, te=BF zwi=B1zany z alokacj=B1 pami=EAci do gra=
  37247. fiki -
  37248. > potrzebuj=EA mie=E6 bitplany po sobie (jako jeden blok pami=EAci). Tego c=
  37249. hyba
  37250. > AllocBitMap() nie zrobi.
  37251.  
  37252. =09Sprobuj zajac normalnie pamiec (odpowiednia wielkosc
  37253. potrzebna na WSZYSTKIE bitplane'y, dla pewnosci  moze i ciut wiecej
  37254. ;) przez AllocMem(), a potem w stworzonej strukturze BitMap na "chamca"
  37255. wpisz adresy kolejnych bitplane'ow - zerowy, to poczatek przydzielonego
  37256. bloku pamieci, 1szy to ten poczatek+wielkosc jednego bitplane'u; n-ty:
  37257. poczatek+(n-1)*wielkosc jednego plane'u. Powinno sie udac, a nie jest to
  37258. zapewne (99.9% pewnosci) niezgodne z wytycznymi.
  37259.  
  37260.  /************************************************************************
  37261.  *    LeMUr of blabla              AMiGA 1k2 user, C-programmer, boss of *
  37262.  * ./___ _    _____. ./___ _    _____.  IZViestia magazine, text-writter *
  37263.  * |____\/____\____| |____\/____\____|  E-MAIL: lemi@mops.uci.agh.edu.pl *
  37264.  * blabla - this means system friendly    HTTP:  www.gliwice.pl/~thufor/ *
  37265.  *********** AmiNET:util/cli/2b_Srch11DEMO.lha - get it now! ************/
  37266.  
  37267. From owner-amigapl  Fri Mar 27 13:40:09 1998
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  37274.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 13:13:12 GMT
  37275. From: Artur Muszynski <amst@union.org.pl>
  37276. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  37277. Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 12:12:12 +0100
  37278. Message-ID: <yam7390.617.121638704@mail.union.org.pl>
  37279. In-Reply-To: <yam7387.2790.135658296@mail.supermedia.pl>
  37280. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  37281. Organization: Union
  37282. Subject: Re: Ochrona =?iso-8859-2?Q?pami=EAci?=
  37283. MIME-Version: 1.0
  37284. X-ISO-CONVERTED: Yam_ISO2 1.05 (02.11.97) (c) Silver Dream !
  37285. X-YAMISO-UPDATE: ftp://wfmh.man.szczecin.pl/pub/yam_iso2/
  37286. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  37287. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  37288.  
  37289. On 24-Mar-98, Peter Drapich wrote:
  37290. > >Ochrona pamieci - a raczej jej brak jest tu zatem tylko *przyczyna*
  37291. > >powstawania bledu, zas *metoda* jego eliminacji - to sledzenie zasobow=
  37292.  (a
  37293. > wiec
  37294. > >i mozliwosc usuwania zawieszonego tasku - czyli *skutku*) :)))
  37295. > Brednie. Przyczyna powstawania bledu jest blad w programie, a nie brak =
  37296. czy
  37297. > obecnosc ochrony pamieci - ona umozliwia zabezpieczenie sie przed
  37298. > negatywnymi
  37299. > skutkami takiego bledu i ew. kontynuacja pracy, czyli  np. usunieciem
  37300. > zadania,
  37301. > ktore spowodowalo blad. Sledzenie zasobow nie jest metoda eliminacji
  37302. bledow
  37303. > w
  37304. > programie, jest tylko dodatkowa mozliwoscia zwolnienia zajetych przez
  37305. > zawieszony program zasobow, pozwalajaca np. na jego ponowne uruchomieni=
  37306. e.
  37307.  
  37308. Troch=EA uzupe=B3nienia - program, kt=F3ry nie wy=B3o=BFy=B3 systemu, tyl=
  37309. ko po prostu
  37310. "poszed=B3 w maliny" =B3atwo wywali=E6 np ARTM'em. Oczywi=B6cie nie zwoln=
  37311. i to
  37312. zasob=F3w allokowanych dynamicznie przez program, ale na moje potrzeby
  37313. (programisty) wystarczy (musi :-). Sledzenie zasob=F3w pozwala te=BF zwol=
  37314. nienie
  37315. zasob=F3w w momencie wyj=B6cia z programu - czyli s=B3u=BFy nie tylko do =
  37316. usuwania
  37317. b=B3=EAd=F3w. Z tym ponownym uruchomieniem =B3adnie to wygl=B1da w teorii=
  37318. , ale gorzej
  37319. w praktyce - vide wingroza95. Nigdy Docent nie mia=B3e=B6 komunikatu "urz=
  37320. =B1dzenie
  37321. audio jest ju=BF zaj=EAte", mimo =BFe wyszed=B3e=B6 ze wszystkiego, czego=
  37322.  si=EA da ? :-)
  37323. Ochrona pami=EAci, =B6ledzenie pami=EAci itp rzeczy dzia=B3aj=B1 dobrze, =
  37324. TYLKO pod
  37325. warunkiem, =BFe j=B1dro systemu, drivery itp stuff s=B1 napisane PERFEKCY=
  37326. JNIE.
  37327.  
  37328. > >Projektanci AmigaOSu chyba dobrze wiedzieli, na co sie decydowali nie
  37329. > >wprowadzajac ani sledzenia zasobow (dzieki czemu nasz Oesik moze praco=
  37330. wac
  37331. > na
  37332. > >procesorach slabej *sorry* mocy), ani ochrony pamieci (ARexx rulez ...=
  37333. ).
  37334.  
  37335. > Sledzenie zasobow nie ma duzego zwiazku z slaba moca procesora. Dodanie=
  37336.  
  37337. np.
  37338. > automatycznego zwalniania pamieci przy zakonczeniu pracy tasku jest
  37339. banalne,
  37340. > mozliwe do zrobienia prawie bez jakichkolwiek kombinacji w systemie i
  37341. > zajmuje
  37342. > relatywnie malo czasu. =
  37343.  
  37344.  
  37345. Niby masz racj=EA, chocia=BF Ralph Babel napisa=B3 inaczej (sprawd=BC sob=
  37346. ie).
  37347.  
  37348. > Nie wiem, co ma Arexx do ochrony pamieci. Arexx uzywa bardzo modulowej
  37349. > struktury danych do porozumiewania sie z programami  - moim zdaniem Are=
  37350. xx
  37351. > raczej nie mialby zadnych problemow z ochrona pamieci. Najwiekszym
  37352. problemem
  37353. > sa msg porty i wiadomosci, przekazujace pointery do danych miedzy taska=
  37354. mi.
  37355.  
  37356. =2E.. i BOOPSI.
  37357.  
  37358. -- =
  37359.  
  37360.  
  37361.    // Artur Muszynski (AMST/UNION) A4000/040/EGS
  37362.  \//  e-mail: amst@union.org.pl
  37363.  
  37364. From owner-amigapl  Fri Mar 27 13:40:34 1998
  37365. Received: from silter.silesia.top.pl (silter.silesia.top.pl [195.117.67.3]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA21967 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 13:29:43 +0100 (MET)
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  37368.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 13:28:10 +0100 (CET)
  37369. Date: 27 Mar 98 11:09:34 +0100
  37370. From: "Grzegorz Juraszek" <yoyo@silesia.top.pl>
  37371. Subject: Re: Re[2]: Paula vs SoundBlaster
  37372. To: "AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi" <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  37373. In-Reply-To: <yam7389.1078.2016369784@zskl.p.lodz.pl>
  37374. Message-ID: <1094.390T1705T6691985@silesia.top.pl>
  37375. MIME-Version: 1.0
  37376. Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  37377. Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
  37378. X-Mailer: THOR 2.5 (Amiga;TCP/IP) *UNREGISTERED*
  37379.  
  37380. Hello Grzegorz Kraszewski, on 26-Mar-98    22:19:21 you wrote:
  37381. >Dnia 25-Mar-98, Miloslaw Smyk napisal:
  37382.  
  37383. >> Z drugiej jednak strony 14-bitowy sygna³ z Amigi jest bardzo cichy i s³abo
  37384. >> odstaje od szumów t³a.
  37385.  
  37386. >Je¿eli ma siê kiepski sprzêt audio... U mnie nie ma ¿adnych szumów.
  37387.  
  37388. Zgadzam sie. Roznica miedzy 14bit Pauli przez AHI po dobrej kalibracji
  37389. i 16bit Delfiny jest zauwazalna tylko dla osob ze sluchem muzycznym.
  37390. Mowie oczywiscie o modulach 4-8 kanalowych, bo przy wiecej slychac od razu.
  37391.  
  37392. Porzadny zestaw audio to co najmniej polowa sukcesu.
  37393.  
  37394. >> Najlepiej, zamiast teoretyzowaæ, postawiæ obie maszyny obok
  37395. >> siebie i zrobiæ test.
  37396.  
  37397. Najlepiej do testow wziac ten sam modul, a w przypadku peceta i player jest
  37398. wazny, nie kazdy odtwarza tak samo. Mimo wszystko w przypadku zwyklych
  37399. klonow SB na FM nie mozna oczekiwac cudow.
  37400.  
  37401. --
  37402.    Grzegorz Juraszek * Yoyo^Twilight * Amiga user * AIRI & ATO PL member
  37403.        mailto:yoyo@silesia.top.pl * http://www.silesia.top.pl/~yoyo
  37404. --
  37405.              "Let the truth be known though the heavens fall"
  37406.                     Agent Mulder * The X-Files * Redux
  37407.  
  37408. From owner-amigapl  Fri Mar 27 13:40:43 1998
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  37416. From: Artur Muszynski <amst@union.org.pl>
  37417. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  37418. Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 12:41:02 +0100
  37419. Message-ID: <yam7390.103.121638704@mail.union.org.pl>
  37420. In-Reply-To: <yam7389.1078.2016369784@zskl.p.lodz.pl>
  37421. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  37422. Organization: Union
  37423. Subject: Re: Re[2]: Paula vs SoundBlaster
  37424. MIME-Version: 1.0
  37425. X-ISO-CONVERTED: Yam_ISO2 1.05 (02.11.97) (c) Silver Dream !
  37426. X-YAMISO-UPDATE: ftp://wfmh.man.szczecin.pl/pub/yam_iso2/
  37427. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  37428. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  37429.  
  37430. On 26-Mar-98, Grzegorz Kraszewski wrote:
  37431. > Niew=B1tpliwie tak, niestety u siebie nie mam takiej mo=BFliwo=B6ci. Ni=
  37432. emniej u
  37433. > znajomego s=B3ysza=B3em co nieco z karty typu SB clone.
  37434.  
  37435. To chyba b=EAd=EA musia=B3 zweryfikowa=E6 zdanie o firmie Yamaha :-)
  37436.  
  37437. > > A co takiego dobrego w miksowaniu analogowym?
  37438.  
  37439. > Za=B3=F3=BFmy, =BFe masz modek 32 kana=B3owy z samplami 16-bit. Je=BFel=
  37440. i chcesz to
  37441. > upcha=E6 w 2 kana=B3y po 16 bit, to w najlepszym wypadku z ka=BFdego sa=
  37442. mpla
  37443. > tracisz 4 najm=B3odsze bity, a bior=B1c pod uwag=EA stereo panning to 5=
  37444. =2E
  37445.  
  37446. B=B3=B1d. Sample s=B1 najpierw sumowane, a dopiero potem bity s=B1 albo p=
  37447. rzesuwane,
  37448. albo wr=EAcz dzielone przez to, co trzeba. Przy za=B3o=BFeniu, =BFe 16-bi=
  37449. towa
  37450. kwantyzacja daje nies=B3yszalne zniekszta=B3cenia, sample powinny by=E6 s=
  37451. =B3yszalne
  37452. idealnie. Wed=B3ug twojego opisu dzia=B3a=B3 tylko Octalyzer, stary OctaM=
  37453. ED i inne
  37454. amigowe zabytki. Pecetowe karty, np GUS, nie do=B6=E6, =BFe robi to tak, =
  37455. jak
  37456. napisa=B3em, to jeszcze zawsze stosuje interpolacj=EA (w Amidze robi to c=
  37457. hyba
  37458. tylko AHI, ale to bardzo spowalnia i mod2samp Haliego, ale nie w czasie
  37459. rzeczywistym).
  37460.  
  37461. > z tego, =BFe miksowanie jest programowe przed konwersj=B1 D/A, a wi=EAc=
  37462.  cyfrowe.
  37463. > Natomiast s=B1 karty np. z 32 kana=B3ami po 16 bit=F3w (tzn. ka=BFdy ka=
  37464. na=B3 ma sw=F3j
  37465. > przetwornik D/A) z regulacj=B1 wzmocnienia i miksowaniem po stronie
  37466. > analogowej.
  37467.  
  37468. Ciekaw jestem, czy to prawda, bo nie ma to =BFadnego uzasadnienia technic=
  37469. znego
  37470. i finansowego. Lepiej by=B3oby da=E6 2 przetworniki 18 lub 20-bitowe. Jed=
  37471. yny
  37472. skutek opisanego przez ciebie rozwi=B1zania to IMHO wzrost szum=F3w. Du=BF=
  37473. o lepiej
  37474. jest miksowa=E6 i wzmacnia=E6 po stronie cyfrowej. Daje to znacznie mniej=
  37475. sze
  37476. zniekszta=B3cenia i przy okazji mo=BFna robi=E6 efekty specjalne, filtry =
  37477. itp
  37478. (DSP).
  37479.  
  37480. R=F3wnoleg=B3=B1 prac=EA przetwornik=F3w C/A wykorzystuje si=EA za to w h=
  37481. igh-endowych
  37482. odtwarzaczach CD w celu zmniejszenia szum=F3w i poprawy liniowo=B6ci (po =
  37483. kiego
  37484. grzyba to nie wiem - i tak tego nie s=B3ycha=E6). Pr=B1dy pochodz=B1ce od=
  37485.  wej=B6cia
  37486. cyfrowego si=EA sumuj=B1, natomiast b=B3=EAdy nieliniowo=B6ci znosz=B1 (s=
  37487. zumy te=BF si=EA
  37488. sumuj=B1 ale tylko cz=EA=B6ciowo - w sumie wi=EAc stosunek S/N ulega popr=
  37489. awie).
  37490.  
  37491. -- =
  37492.  
  37493.  
  37494.    // Artur Muszynski (AMST/UNION) A4000/040/EGS
  37495.  \//  e-mail: amst@union.org.pl
  37496.  
  37497. From owner-amigapl  Fri Mar 27 13:40:52 1998
  37498. Received: from friko2.onet.pl (root@friko2.onet.pl [194.204.191.6]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA21957 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 13:28:45 +0100 (MET)
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  37501.       id NAA13574 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 13:16:04 +0100
  37502. From: Tomasz =?iso-8859-2?Q?G=F3rniak?= <gal01@friko2.onet.pl>
  37503. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  37504. Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 13:25:12 +0100
  37505. Message-ID: <yam7390.641.33463016@friko2.onet.pl>
  37506. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  37507. Subject: Stacja HD a E/BOX
  37508. MIME-Version: 1.0
  37509. X-ISO-CONVERTED: Yam_ISO2 1.06 (17.11.97) (c) Silver Dream !
  37510. X-YAMISO-UPDATE: ftp://wfmh.org.pl/pub/yam_iso2/
  37511. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  37512. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  37513.  
  37514. Od jakiego=B6 czasu jestem u=BFytkownikiem stacji HD Micronika i wszystko=
  37515.  by=B3o OK
  37516. do momentu pr=F3by wsadzenia jej do obudowy E/BOX. Stacja zbiesi=B3a si=EA=
  37517.  i nie
  37518. chce czyta=E6 i formatowa=E6 dyskietek HD (chyba, =BFe stoi obok obudowy,=
  37519.  wtedy
  37520. wszystko jest w porz=B1dku). Czy kto=B6 mia=B3 podobne problemy, bo mimo,=
  37521.  =BFe
  37522. posiadam obudow=EA to i tak wszystko jest wybebeszone.
  37523.  
  37524. I przy okazji czy kto=B6 zna numer jakiej=B6 wersji HARPOON'a, kt=F3ra dz=
  37525. ia=B3a
  37526. poprawnie na A1200+ (odpowied=BC prosz=EA na priva)
  37527.  
  37528. -- =
  37529.  
  37530. Tomasz G=F3rniak
  37531.  
  37532. A1200 Apollo 1240 25 Mhz 8Mb
  37533. E/BOX 2,1 GB HDD CD-ROM 12x
  37534.  
  37535. From owner-amigapl  Fri Mar 27 14:09:52 1998
  37536. Received: from david.silesia.pik-net.pl (david.silesia.pik-net.pl [195.82.176.1]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA22025 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 13:41:06 +0100 (MET)
  37537. Received: from mail.soft-eks.com.pl. (mail.soft-eks.com.pl [195.82.177.18])
  37538.     by david.silesia.pik-net.pl (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA05255
  37539.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 13:38:47 +0100
  37540. Received: from SOFT_EKSPERT/SpoolDir by mail.soft-eks.com.pl. (Mercury 1.21);
  37541.     27 Mar 98 13:40:32 +1100
  37542. Received: from SpoolDir by SOFT_EKSPERT (Mercury 1.21); 27 Mar 98 13:40:10 +1100
  37543. From: "Darek Kleina" <AMIGA@soft-eks.com.pl>
  37544. To: amigapl@amiga.com.pl
  37545. Date:          Fri, 27 Mar 1998 13:40:08 
  37546. Subject:       Re: Conner
  37547. Priority: normal
  37548. X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.22
  37549. Message-ID: <4634E51FA2@mail.soft-eks.com.pl.>
  37550.  
  37551. Czesc !!!
  37552.  
  37553. > W poniedzialek wrocilem z serwisu i tam dowiedzialem sie, iz moj drugi dysk, czyli
  37554. > Conner 540 MB odmowil posluszenstwa z powodu padniecia elektroniki.
  37555. > Mialem juz okazje obdzwonic kilkanascie serwisow i w kazdym jednym mowia
  37556. > o tym, ze dysk jest juz po prostu stary (o czym wiem i zgadzam sie) i trudno
  37557. > znalezc do niego czesci. Tutaj moja prosba. Jezeli ktos z Was szanowni mial
  37558. > podobny problem i znalazl gdzies serwis, ktory sie z podobna usterka uporal to prosze o maila na priva. A moze ktos po prostu ma elektronike z Connera 540
  37559. > do opchania? 
  37560. > 
  37561. > See yaa!
  37562. > 
  37563.  
  37564. Swego czasu padl mi moj twardziel Conner 850 i jedyny serwis jaki sie 
  37565. tego podjal to Uniserv w Katowicach przy ul.Teatralnej 7. Niestety 
  37566. nie mam numeru telefonu do nich. Tak swoja droga to jest to jedyny 
  37567. serwis Ami z prawdziwego zdarzenia w Katowicach.
  37568.  
  37569. Pozdrawiam
  37570.  
  37571. +--------------------------------------------------------------------+
  37572. | Dariusz Kleina                        Amiga & pC programmer        |
  37573. | mailto:amiga@soft-eks.com.pl         Basic/Pascal/C/C++/Asm        |
  37574. |   A1200, HDD 850, CD-ROM 12x, Mem 2+8 Mb, CPU 030/42, FPU 882/20   |
  37575. +--------------------------------------------------------------------+
  37576.         
  37577. From owner-amigapl  Fri Mar 27 15:09:53 1998
  37578. Received: from david.silesia.pik-net.pl (david.silesia.pik-net.pl [195.82.176.1]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA22290 for <amigapl@wfmh.org.pl>; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 15:04:25 +0100 (MET)
  37579. Received: from mail.soft-eks.com.pl. (mail.soft-eks.com.pl [195.82.177.18])
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  37581.     Fri, 27 Mar 1998 15:02:05 +0100
  37582. Received: from SOFT_EKSPERT/SpoolDir by mail.soft-eks.com.pl. (Mercury 1.21);
  37583.     27 Mar 98 15:03:50 +1100
  37584. Received: from SpoolDir by SOFT_EKSPERT (Mercury 1.21); 27 Mar 98 15:03:21 +1100
  37585. From: "Darek Kleina" <AMIGA@soft-eks.com.pl>
  37586. To: Amiga@plearn.edu.pl, amigapl@wfmh.org.pl
  37587. Date:          Fri, 27 Mar 1998 15:03:16 
  37588. Subject:       CDDA i Samsung x12
  37589. Priority: normal
  37590. X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.22
  37591. Message-ID: <AF2F3D84@mail.soft-eks.com.pl.>
  37592.  
  37593. Czesc !!!
  37594.  
  37595. Sorry, ze jeszcze raz walkuje ten temat.
  37596. Mam putanie do osob ktore posiadaja CD-ROM-a tej firmy. Czy udalo wam 
  37597. sie skopiowac sciezke audio z CD-ROM-u. Probowalem roznymi programami 
  37598. AsimCDFS, OptyCdplayer, ReadCDDA i kilka innych, niestety zaden z 
  37599. nich nie posiadal supportu do mojego CD-ka. Programy "testujace" 
  37600. zwracaj informacje o tym, ze na nim jest mozliwe "samplowanie", a 
  37601. ktos kiedys na liscie pisal, ze tego dokonal na Samsungu.
  37602.  
  37603.  
  37604. Pozdrawiam
  37605.  
  37606. +--------------------------------------------------------------------+
  37607. | Dariusz Kleina                        Amiga & pC programmer        |
  37608. | mailto:amiga@soft-eks.com.pl         Basic/Pascal/C/C++/Asm        |
  37609. |   A1200, HDD 850, CD-ROM 12x, Mem 2+8 Mb, CPU 030/42, FPU 882/20   |
  37610. +--------------------------------------------------------------------+
  37611.         
  37612. From owner-amigapl  Fri Mar 27 15:10:08 1998
  37613. Received: from zeus.polsl.gliwice.pl (ololo@zeus.polsl.gliwice.pl [157.158.1.3]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA22246 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 14:57:26 +0100 (MET)
  37614. Received: from localhost (ololo@localhost) by zeus.polsl.gliwice.pl with SMTP (8.8.6/8.7.3) id OAA15244 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 14:55:36 +0100 (MET)
  37615. Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 14:55:35 +0100 (MET)
  37616. From: Aleksander Salwa <ololo@zeus.polsl.gliwice.pl>
  37617. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  37618. Subject: Re: *** Linux na Amidze ***
  37619. In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.3.95.980326223111.32493A-100000@ajax.umcs.lublin.pl>
  37620. Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.95.980327144650.25025A-100000@zeus.polsl.gliwice.pl>
  37621. MIME-Version: 1.0
  37622. Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
  37623.  
  37624.  
  37625. On Thu, 26 Mar 1998, Tygrys wrote:
  37626.  
  37627. > 
  37628. > MACover a moze i MACD bedzie chetny.. przed chwila o tym rozmawialem...
  37629. > Jak bede mial 'chwile' wolna to sciagna cala dystrybucje i dostarcze..
  37630. > 
  37631. > Tygrys.
  37632.  
  37633. Przydalaby sie  jeszcze dobra instrukcja instalacji, i pare slow
  37634. o systemie.
  37635. Oczywiscie jestem  chetny - 68k (mam nadzieje,  ze tymczasowo :))
  37636. Wiem, ze zajmuje to sporo miejsca, ale powinny sie na takiej plytce poza
  37637. golym Linuxem znalezc jeszcze X-Windows.  W  koncu nie  po to instaluje
  37638. sie rewelacyjny system, zeby  potem pracowac na konsoli znakowej.
  37639.  
  37640.         #@! Trzymajcie sie !@#
  37641. __________________________________________________________________________
  37642. Aleksander Salwa ----------------------------- ololo@zeus.polsl.gliwice.pl
  37643.  
  37644.  
  37645. From owner-amigapl  Fri Mar 27 15:39:53 1998
  37646. Received: from onet.pl (root@onet.pl [194.204.188.6]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA22325 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 15:15:22 +0100 (MET)
  37647. Received: from mk (ppp-wct331.katowice.tpnet.pl [195.205.241.31])
  37648.     by onet.pl (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA14673
  37649.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 15:12:04 +0100 (MET)
  37650. From: "Wojciech Kocjan" <kocjan@ka.onet.pl>
  37651. To: "AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi" <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  37652. Subject: Re: PPC do A1200
  37653. Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 15:09:08 +0100
  37654. Message-ID: <01bd5989$e87c6520$fdfefe01@mk>
  37655. MIME-Version: 1.0
  37656. Content-Type: text/plain;
  37657.     charset="iso-8859-2"
  37658. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
  37659. X-Priority: 3
  37660. X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
  37661. X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3
  37662. X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3
  37663.  
  37664. You wrote:
  37665.  
  37666. >> niech przynajmniej tego s³owa dotrzymuje. A z reszt± na samej stronie
  37667. fazy
  37668. >> pisa³o (zaraz po wypuszczeniu PPC to A1200), ¿e maj± zamiar uwzglêdniæ
  37669. karty
  37670. >
  37671. >Przypomnê, ¿e rozmawiali¶my o MarkTomie (i innych ma³ych firmach).
  37672.  
  37673.  
  37674. Fakt, by³o o MarkTomie. Ale np. Elbox bêdzie robi³ upgrade na PPC z Apollo,
  37675. wiêc to chyba tylko niektóre firmy siê nie zgadzaj± z polityk± phase5 (która
  37676. obiecywa³a upgrade z innych firm). Zreszt± Elbox to IMHO jedna z lepszych
  37677. polskich firm zajmuj±ca siê Amig±. Chocia¿ a¿ tak doskona³a nie jest.
  37678.  
  37679. >> To podaj mi chocia¿ jeden logiczny powód, dla którego mia³bym kupiæ za
  37680. ponad
  37681. >> 11 baniek (bez procesora 68040 - za³ó¿my, ¿e postanowiê straciæ) 603? W
  37682. >A od kiedy to siê kieruje logik± przy zakupie osprzêtu do zabawki? Przecie¿
  37683. >nie od dzi¶ p³acimy jak za zbo¿e.
  37684.  
  37685. Ja na przyk³ad nie uwa¿am Amigi za zabawkê. Robiê na niej niejedno i na
  37686. przyk³ad mam za darmo (shareware, wiêc tylko na 30 dni) program do
  37687. nagrywania p³ytek, który nie potrzebuje nagrywajki, aby zrobiæ isoimage dla
  37688. nagrywajek kompaktów (np. EasyCD Pro tego nie zrobi bez nagrywajki SCSI).
  37689. Ale to tylko jeden z przyk³adów. Np. na piecu mnie krew zalewa³a, jak
  37690. musia³em co kilka dni robiæ to samo - przerabiaæ ILBM na GIF, zmieniaæ
  37691. paletê i zapisaæ ponownie oraz w koñcu spakowaæ winzipem. Po prostu ARexx
  37692. rulez.
  37693.  
  37694. A je¶li traktujesz Amigê jako zabawkê, to twoja sprawa. Ja tak nie uwa¿am i
  37695. jest to moje zdanie.
  37696.  
  37697. Zabawk± jest np. 3dfx, Voodoo i inne dopalki tylko do gier. I kupowania
  37698. takich rzeczy nie rozumiem - mo¿naby wydaæ kasê na np. lepszy monitor, modem
  37699. (je¶li kto¶ nie ma) itp. Chocia¿ w sumie na pc wielu ludzi to zajmuje siê
  37700. tylko giercami.
  37701.  
  37702. >> porównaniu z badziewnym pentium ii owy 603 (porównuj±c procki o tych
  37703. samych
  37704. >> czêstotliwo¶ciach) nie wypada najlepiej. Mam piecyka i wiem, jak "cudnie"
  37705. >> chodzi w95 a i 98. Dlatego pozostajê przy Amidze. Ale mimo wszystko nie
  37706. >> kupiê procka 603.
  37707.  
  37708. Chocia¿ w sumie kto wie. Ka¿dy 603 bêdzie i tak lepiej chodzi³ od PII z g95.
  37709.  
  37710. >Przecie¿ nie bêdê Ciê namawia³. Nie chcesz to nie, Twoja sprawa.
  37711. >> przynajmniej ujednoliciæ amigi i zrobiæ same karty z 604 (i przy okazji z
  37712. 4
  37713. >> podstawkami SIMM).
  37714. >I sprzedawaæ w zestawie m³otkiem i przecinakiem, ¿eby¶ sobie móg³ to nog±
  37715. >wcisn±æ pod klapkê.
  37716.  
  37717. Skoro ju¿ kogo¶ staæ na kartê za co najmniej 15 baniek (lub mniej przy
  37718. upgradzie), to w koñcu chyba staæ go na jaki¶ tower (bez ZII, je¶li nie
  37719. chce).
  37720.  
  37721. >>> Zaraz, zaraz. Czy¿by¶ zatem oczekiwa³ tabunów chêtnych, którzy Ci bêd±
  37722. >>> do tego dop³acaæ?
  37723. >> Nie spodziewam siê. Ale to co napisa³em wy¿ej - po co mi to obiecywano?
  37724. >
  37725. >My¶la³em, ¿e ju¿ wszyscy siê skutecznie wyleczyli z wiary w fazowane
  37726. >obecanki.
  37727.  
  37728. A jednak nie - i nawet siê mile zdziwi³em (patrz o Elboxie). W fazowe
  37729. obiecanki o terminach dawno przesta³em wierzyæ (jak chyba ka¿dy). Ale
  37730. przynajmniej jak co¶ wypuszcz±, to nie ma wielu b³êdów.
  37731.  
  37732. >> Oczywiste jest, ¿e nikt nie bêdzie dop³aca³ do tego, ¿eby przej¶æ na PPC.
  37733. >Nie bêdzie dop³aca³ Tobie. To ró¿nica. Ja, dla Twojej, informacji wyj±³em
  37734. >060 z karty 2060, która le¿y teraz sobie i siê kurzy (BTW: mo¿e kto¶ jest
  37735. >zainteresowany?), ale nie ¿alê siê z tego powodu publicznie. Póki na
  37736. >Gieldzie pojawiaj± siê og³oszenia chêtnych na appola i inne, to w zasadzie
  37737. >nie wiem po co to zamieszanie.
  37738.  
  37739.  
  37740. Chodzi³o o to, ¿e gostek zosta³ w zasadzie na lodzie. Ale w koñcu mo¿e
  37741. wymontowaæ swoj± 040 lub 060, kupiæ bez 68k i wsadziæ tego z Apolla. Gorzej,
  37742. jak siê w ogóle na tym nie zna.
  37743.  
  37744. >A powinno. Równie dobrze SAS móg³ byæ uszkodzony albo co innego (np SIMM
  37745. >walniêty), wiêc takie zwalanie na Blizarda po to, by by³o "po równo"
  37746. >nie maj±c ¿adnych podstaw jest po prostu trochê bez sensu.
  37747.  
  37748. Fakt. Ale je¶li to Ciê zainteresuje, to po¿yczy³em sobie tego SIMMa (tego
  37749. samego!) i z Apollem chodzi³. Ale mo¿e to by³a wina czego¶ zupe³nie innego.
  37750. Przepraszam.
  37751.  
  37752. >To jak jest w koñcu - 040/40 czybsze o 2% ni¿ inne 040/40 to powód do
  37753. rado¶ci
  37754. >a PPC szybsze ni¿ oba 040 razem to ju¿ "be"?
  37755.  
  37756.  
  37757. Nie no, mi chodzi³o o to, ¿e skoro mamy przej¶æ na high-end, to niech to te¿
  37758. mo¿e byæ prawdziwy high-end (604). Ale w sumie ma³o kto potrzebuje a¿
  37759. takiego demona prêdko¶ci.
  37760.  
  37761. >[ciach]
  37762. >ju¿ chyba za daleko od tematu, wiêc sugeruje EOT.
  37763.  
  37764. Zgadzam siê. Tylko chcia³em napisaæ o Elboxie.
  37765.  
  37766. Wojciech Kocjan
  37767. mailto:kocjan@ka.onet.pl        http://priv.onet.pl/ka/wkocjan/
  37768. GSM: +48 601 473237             SMS mailto:48601473237@text.plusgsm.pl
  37769. AUTHOR OF AStartV4, ANETGUI, NEWFMT.LIBRARY and other things
  37770. ---
  37771. "Software suppliers are trying to make their software packages more
  37772. 'user-friendly'.... Their best approach, so far, has been to take
  37773. all the old brochures, and stamp the words, 'user-friendly' on the cover."
  37774. -- Bill Gates, Pres., Microsoft, Inc.
  37775.  
  37776. From owner-amigapl  Fri Mar 27 16:09:57 1998
  37777. Received: from server.fiber.net.pl (server.fiber.net.pl [195.117.208.101]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA22443 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 15:55:30 +0100 (MET)
  37778. Received: from amiga.com.pl (pppb76.szczecin.tpnet.pl [195.205.239.76])
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  37781.           Fri, 27 Mar 1998 15:54:30 +0100
  37782. From: Miloslaw Smyk <thorgal@amiga.com.pl>
  37783. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  37784. Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 15:10:28 +0100
  37785. Message-ID: <yam7390.1403.139908768@fiber.net.pl>
  37786. In-Reply-To: <yam7389.2006.2017353352@zskl.p.lodz.pl>
  37787. X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview3 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
  37788. Organization: W.F.M.H.
  37789. Subject: Re: Jak wymusic deklaracje zmiennych w CHIP RAM
  37790. MIME-Version: 1.0
  37791. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  37792. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  37793.  
  37794. Dnia 26-Mar-98, Grzegorz Kraszewski rzek=B3 co nast=EApuje:
  37795.  
  37796. > Trzeba wywo=B3a=E6 funkcj=EA AllocBitMap z ustawion=B1 flag=B1 BMF_DISP=
  37797. LAYABLE. Na
  37798. Amy
  37799. > bez karty graficznej spowoduje to zaalokowanie pami=EAci w CHIP-ie, a p=
  37800. rzy
  37801. > karcie, to jak ju=BF tam ona sobie za=BFyczy (przewa=BFnie w FAST). A c=
  37802. o do
  37803.  
  37804. No, nie jest to a=BF tak proste i oczywiste. Najlepiej by by=B3o, gdyby P=
  37805. iotr
  37806. opisa=B3 co ma zamiar z tym bitmapem potem robi=E6 - wtedy mo=BFna by co=B6=
  37807.  doradzi=E6
  37808. bardziej szczeg=F3=B3owo.
  37809.  
  37810. Mi=B3ek
  37811. -- =
  37812.  
  37813. mailto:thorgal@amiga.com.pl   |  "Man in the Moon and other weird things"=
  37814.  -
  37815. http://wfmh.org.pl/~thorgal/  |  see it at http://wfmh.org.pl/~thorgal/Mo=
  37816. on/
  37817.  
  37818. From owner-amigapl  Fri Mar 27 16:10:09 1998
  37819. Received: from server.fiber.net.pl (server.fiber.net.pl [195.117.208.101]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA22441 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 15:55:28 +0100 (MET)
  37820. Received: from amiga.com.pl (pppb76.szczecin.tpnet.pl [195.205.239.76])
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  37822.           id AAB12539 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>;
  37823.           Fri, 27 Mar 1998 15:54:28 +0100
  37824. From: Miloslaw Smyk <thorgal@amiga.com.pl>
  37825. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  37826. Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 15:00:10 +0100
  37827. Message-ID: <yam7390.549.139908768@fiber.net.pl>
  37828. In-Reply-To: <yam7389.2513.2016369784@zskl.p.lodz.pl>
  37829. X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview3 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
  37830. Organization: W.F.M.H.
  37831. Subject: Re: Pare spraw
  37832. MIME-Version: 1.0
  37833. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  37834. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  37835.  
  37836. Dnia 26-Mar-98, Grzegorz Kraszewski rzek=B3 co nast=EApuje:
  37837.  
  37838. > Trzeba w takiej klasie napisa=E6 metod=EA MUIM_HandleInput, a w metodzi=
  37839. e
  37840. > reagowa=E6 na IDCMP_RAWKEY. Je=BFeli msg->imsg->Code pasuje do Delete (=
  37841. mo=BFna
  37842. te=BF
  37843. > sprawdza=E6 qualifiery) to wywo=B3ujesz metod=EA kasuj=B1c=B1. Oczywi=B6=
  37844. cie nie
  37845.  
  37846. Zamiast grzeba=E6 samemu po imsg->Code i qualifierach, nale=BFy wykona=E6=
  37847.  
  37848. konwersj=EA za pomoc=B1 keymap.library. Opisane jest to Autodocu
  37849. keymap.library/MapRawKey(). Poza tym nowe klasy MUI nie powinny korzysta=E6=
  37850.  z
  37851. MUIM_HandleInput lecz raczej z MUIM_HandleEvent - vide Autodoc
  37852. Window.mui/MUIM_Window_AddEventHandler, sekcja NOTES.
  37853.  
  37854. Hej,
  37855. Mi=B3ek
  37856. -- =
  37857.  
  37858. mailto:thorgal@amiga.com.pl   |  "Man in the Moon and other weird things"=
  37859.  -
  37860. http://wfmh.org.pl/~thorgal/  |  see it at http://wfmh.org.pl/~thorgal/Mo=
  37861. on/
  37862.  
  37863. From owner-amigapl  Fri Mar 27 16:10:19 1998
  37864. Received: from ajax.umcs.lublin.pl (root@ajax.umcs.lublin.pl [193.59.55.212]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA22430 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 15:50:52 +0100 (MET)
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  37866. Date:     Fri, 27 Mar 1998 16:50:14 +0100 (MET)
  37867. Sender: Krystian Wlosek <tygrys@ajax.umcs.lublin.pl>
  37868. From: Tygrys <tygrys@ajax.umcs.lublin.pl>
  37869. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  37870. Subject: Re: Odp: mUSASHI and AmigaOS
  37871. In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.3.95.980326215742.20163B-100000@student>
  37872. Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.980327164933.26977A-100000@ajax.umcs.lublin.pl>
  37873. MIME-Version: 1.0
  37874. Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
  37875.  
  37876. On Thu, 26 Mar 1998, Grzegorz Junka wrote:
  37877. > On Wed, 25 Mar 1998, Adam Zaparcinski wrote:
  37878. > w zyciu nie udalo sie polozyc linuxa. Nawet jak kiedys z roota wykasowalem
  37879. > mu pliki systemowe :)
  37880.  
  37881. No to slabo sie starales :)
  37882.  
  37883.  
  37884. > $0+'            Grzegorz Junka "Bastian"
  37885.  
  37886. Tygrys
  37887.  
  37888.  
  37889. From owner-amigapl  Fri Mar 27 17:39:53 1998
  37890. Received: from www.kki.net.pl (www.kki.net.pl [195.116.9.70]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA22719 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 17:31:01 +0100 (MET)
  37891. Received: from kki.net.pl (Amy@ppp150.gdynia.tpnet.pl [194.204.135.150])
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  37893.     Fri, 27 Mar 1998 17:30:00 +0100
  37894. From: Pawel Krak <phob@kki.net.pl>
  37895. To: amiga-plearn <AMIGA@plearn.edu.pl>
  37896. CC: amiga-wfmh <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  37897. Date: Fri, 06 Mar 1998 22:00:44 +0100
  37898. Message-ID: <yam7369.2225.18551832@kki.net.pl>
  37899. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  37900. Subject: Kamery TV
  37901. MIME-Version: 1.0
  37902. Content-Type: text/plain
  37903.  
  37904. Hey,
  37905.  
  37906. Znacie taki programik WebTV? Jest cool, no nie? :) Tylko ogladanie
  37907. CCN lub MTV z kilku(dziesiecio)sekundowym opoznieniem jest srednia
  37908. przyjemnoscia. Czy znacie moze jakies kamerki w Polsce lub 
  37909. okolicach? :)
  37910. -- 
  37911. See ya!                                          Phobos
  37912. -----------------------------------------------------------
  37913. Pawel Krak * IRC:Phobos_ * mailto:phob@kki.net.pl
  37914. A1200/040/33MHz/18MB/420MB/1084S/CanonBJC240/BrightCom33600
  37915. -----------------------------------------------------------
  37916.  
  37917. From owner-amigapl  Fri Mar 27 18:09:52 1998
  37918. Received: from www.kki.net.pl (www.kki.net.pl [195.116.9.70]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA22807 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 18:00:43 +0100 (MET)
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  37921.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 17:59:50 +0100
  37922. From: Adam Majewski <akmmaya@kki.net.pl>
  37923. Reply-To: akmmaya@kki.net.pl
  37924. To: WFMH-AmigaPL <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  37925. Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 15:56:45 +0100
  37926. Message-ID: <yam7390.2255.1747840288@kki.net.pl>
  37927. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  37928. Subject: DOpus
  37929. MIME-Version: 1.0
  37930. X-ISO-CONVERTED: Yam_ISO2 1.06 (17.11.97) (c) Silver Dream !
  37931. X-YAMISO-UPDATE: ftp://wfmh.org.pl/pub/yam_iso2/
  37932. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  37933. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  37934.  
  37935. Witam wszystkich...
  37936.  
  37937. Mam pytanie dotycz=B1ce Directory Opusa, a w=B3a=B6ciwie jego
  37938. prefer=EAcji. Chodzi o to, =BFe ConfigOpus otwiera si=EA u mnie
  37939. na w=B3asnym ekranie, a u mojego kumpla otwiera si=EA
  37940. w okienku na ekranie workbencha. Przeszuka=B3em wszystkie
  37941. elementy programu konfiguruj=B1cego (ConfigOpus) i nie
  37942. znalaz=B3em nic co by mog=B3o za to odpowiada=E6 :(
  37943.  
  37944. Je=B6li kto=B6 wie jak ustawi=E6, aby ConfigOpus otwiera=B3 si=EA
  37945. w okienku na ekranie WB to niech da zna=E6.
  37946.  
  37947. Dzi=EAkuj=EA i pozdrawiam :)
  37948.  
  37949. -- =
  37950.  
  37951. Pozdrawiam :-)
  37952.  
  37953. mailto: akmmaya@kki.net.pl
  37954. www: http://www.kki.net.pl/akmmaya
  37955.  
  37956. :-)  w=F3wren  eibos  juCP  ein  (-:
  37957.                                                            Adam Majewski
  37958.  
  37959. From owner-amigapl  Fri Mar 27 18:10:04 1998
  37960. Received: from mx1.polbox.com (mx1.polbox.com [195.116.5.16]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA22767 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 17:43:29 +0100 (MET)
  37961. Received: from free.polbox.pl (ppp@pppa214.szczecin.tpnet.pl [194.204.141.214])
  37962.     by mx1.polbox.com (8.8.8/rev-A0) with SMTP id RAA32157
  37963.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 17:47:43 +0100
  37964. From: Dariusz Gac <gacowie@polbox.com>
  37965. To: amigapl@amiga.com.pl
  37966. Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 17:45:52 +0100
  37967. Message-ID: <yam7390.2631.4483896@smtp.polbox.com>
  37968. X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview3 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
  37969. Organization: Ewa & Darek's Home
  37970. Subject: Dzwiek z plyty kompaktowej muzycznej
  37971. MIME-Version: 1.0
  37972. Content-Type: text/plain
  37973.  
  37974. Hello everybody!
  37975.                     *** H_E_L_P_! ***
  37976.  
  37977. Moj problem to czytnik CD-ROM Hitachi.
  37978. Jak puszczam sobie plyte do sluchania to DZWIEK NIE IDZIE
  37979. PRZEZ AMIGE a tylko przez wyjscie sluchawkowe czytnika!
  37980. Czy to jest normalne czy cos skopalem ?
  37981. Amiga 3.0, AHI, OPUS MAGELLAN.
  37982.  
  37983. Wszelkie pomocne informacje mile widziane.
  37984.  
  37985. Kind regards
  37986.                   Dariusz Gac
  37987.  
  37988.  
  37989. ----- [ REKLAMA / ADVERTISEMENT ] ----------------------------------------
  37990. Lubisz film?! Wiec na co czekasz? Przylacz sie do FILMWEBU!
  37991. Pierwszy Polski Serwis Filmowy w Internecie  http://www.filmweb.pl
  37992. --------------------------------------------------------------------------
  37993.  
  37994. From owner-amigapl  Fri Mar 27 18:39:55 1998
  37995. Received: from www.kki.net.pl (www.kki.net.pl [195.116.9.70]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA22907 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 18:38:53 +0100 (MET)
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  37998.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 18:37:39 +0100
  37999. From: Adam Majewski <akmmaya@kki.net.pl>
  38000. Reply-To: Adam Majewski <akmmaya@kki.net.pl>
  38001. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  38002. Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 18:31:54 +0100
  38003. Message-ID: <yam7390.2741.1747827256@kki.net.pl>
  38004. In-Reply-To: <yam7388.460.137541968@friko.onet.pl>
  38005. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  38006. Subject: Re: Miami
  38007. MIME-Version: 1.0
  38008. X-ISO-CONVERTED: Yam_ISO2 1.06 (17.11.97) (c) Silver Dream !
  38009. X-YAMISO-UPDATE: ftp://wfmh.org.pl/pub/yam_iso2/
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  38012.  
  38013. Dnia 26-Mar-98, Micha=B3 Bujak napisa=B3:
  38014.  
  38015. >Witam ...
  38016.  
  38017. >Prosba do Arexowcow :
  38018.  
  38019. >Potrzebuje dwa skrypty
  38020. >1. Odpala Miami( jako ikone),TimeConnect i rozpoczyna logowanie do INetu=
  38021. =2E
  38022.  
  38023. >    Fajnie by bylo gdyby w razie zajetosci telefonu wykonal Re-Dial.
  38024. To mo=BFna ustawi=E6 w samym MIAMI
  38025.  
  38026. >2 Rozlacza modem, zamyka Miami i zostaje tylko TimeConnect.
  38027.  
  38028. >Chcialbym po prostu podpiac sobie te skrypty pod ToolManagera tak aby Mi=
  38029. ami
  38030. >nie bylo odpalane na ekranie ...
  38031.  
  38032. Hej, czy jest wi=EAcej ch=EAtnych, mom dok=B3adnie to czego szukasz :)
  38033. Zam=F3wienia na priva.
  38034.  
  38035. opis mojego pakietu:
  38036.  
  38037. 1. skrypt ONLINE (miami), OFFLINE (miami), endstat (miami), Poczta (yam)
  38038. 2. zgrywa stan po=B3=B1czenia po roz=B3=B1czeniu zapisuj=B1c do pliku:
  38039.    d=B3ugo=B6=E6 po=B3=B1czenia, ilo=B6=E6 jednostek, koszt po=B3=B1czeni=
  38040. a, dat=EA i czas.
  38041. 3. skrypt wy=B6wietlaj=B1cy ww informacje bez zgrywania do pliku
  38042. 4. jaka=B6 instrukcja :)
  38043.  
  38044. -- =
  38045.  
  38046. Pozdrawiam :-)
  38047.  
  38048. mailto: akmmaya@kki.net.pl
  38049. www: http://www.kki.net.pl/akmmaya
  38050.  
  38051. :-)  w=F3wren  eibos  juCP  ein  (-:
  38052.                                                            Adam Majewski
  38053.  
  38054. From owner-amigapl  Fri Mar 27 18:40:05 1998
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  38059. From: Lolo <lolorad@friko.onet.pl>
  38060. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  38061. Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 16:49:59 +0100
  38062. Message-ID: <yam7390.2968.2016825208@kki.net.pl>
  38063. In-Reply-To: <Pine.HPP.3.95.980325093241.4648C-100000@zeus.polsl.gliwice.pl>
  38064. X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview3 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
  38065. Subject: Re[2]: Linux na Ami
  38066. MIME-Version: 1.0
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  38068. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  38069.  
  38070. On 25-Mar-98, Aleksander Salwa wrote:
  38071.  
  38072. > Instalowalem na 1200 z Apollo040.
  38073. > Moze troche dokladniej:
  38074. > Instalacja poszla, ale przy starcie Linuxa sypia sie komunikaty
  38075. > bledow, chyba nie moze przelaczyc roota z readonly na read-write,
  38076. > potem w trakcie pracy, wielokrotnie nie znajduje jakichs plikow/katalog=
  38077. ow,
  38078. > przy wychodzeniu z Pine wali sie cos z sygnalami.
  38079. > Moze cos zle zainstalowalem. Moze bede mial wersje z LinuxPlus 3/97.
  38080.  
  38081. Je=BFeli startujesz "amiboot-5.2 -k vmlinux root=3D/dev/hdbx ro auto vide=
  38082. o=3Dvga"
  38083. to masz roota read only, zamiast ro wpisz rw i bedzie ok.
  38084. W kwestii braku plik=F3w/katalog=F3w to chyba jakies b=B3=EAdy przy insta=
  38085. lacji.
  38086. Dla twojej konfiguracji wersja z MACD jast dobra.
  38087. -- =
  38088.  
  38089.                                    Radoslaw Flis - Lolo
  38090.                                   lolorad@friko.onet.pl
  38091.                                   lolorad@free.polbox.pl
  38092.                         A1200/030/FPU/50MHz/32Fast&2.1+0.5GB HD&CD
  38093.                                MultisyncColor/Sportster28k8
  38094.  
  38095. From owner-amigapl  Fri Mar 27 20:39:50 1998
  38096. Received: from www.kki.net.pl (www.kki.net.pl [195.116.9.70]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA23139 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 20:18:00 +0100 (MET)
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  38099.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 20:17:12 +0100
  38100. From: Adam Majewski <akmmaya@kki.net.pl>
  38101. Reply-To: Adam Majewski <akmmaya@kki.net.pl>
  38102. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  38103. Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 18:50:26 +0100
  38104. Message-ID: <yam7390.1305.1747827256@kki.net.pl>
  38105. In-Reply-To: <yam7389.1467.2016369784@zskl.p.lodz.pl>
  38106. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  38107. Subject: Re: Re[2]: Odp: 14" vs 15"
  38108. MIME-Version: 1.0
  38109. X-ISO-CONVERTED: Yam_ISO2 1.06 (17.11.97) (c) Silver Dream !
  38110. X-YAMISO-UPDATE: ftp://wfmh.org.pl/pub/yam_iso2/
  38111. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  38112. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  38113.  
  38114. Dnia 26-Mar-98, Grzegorz Kraszewski napisa=B3:
  38115.  
  38116. >Dnia 26-Mar-98, Marcin Orlowski napisal:
  38117.  
  38118. >> I majestatu (z 2 x wolniejsza grafika na Agacie w trybach w/w etc.) ;-=
  38119. (
  38120.  
  38121. >B=B3=B1d. Tryb DBL powoduje jedynie dwa razy wi=EAksze obci=B1=BFenie ma=
  38122. gistrali
  38123. >pami=EAci CHIP w por=F3wnaniu do analogicznego trybu bez DBL, co wcale n=
  38124. ie musi
  38125. >oznacza=E6 (i nie oznacza) dwukrotnego spowolnienia grafiki. Ja na swoje=
  38126. j
  38127. >030/50 u=BFywam do Workbencha DBLPAL HighRes NoFlicker (672x512) w 32
  38128. >kolorach i na szybko=B6=E6 grafiki nie narzekam.
  38129.  
  38130. Prze=B3=B1cz si=EA na 256 kolor=F3w i sam zobacz, granica znacznych r=F3=BF=
  38131. nic
  38132. w pr=EAdko=B6ciach zaczyna si=EA od 64 kolor=F3w w g=F3r=EA :)
  38133.  
  38134. ps. proponowa=B3bym tak=BFe prze=B3=B1czenie si=EA na multiscan,
  38135.    ale to tw=F3j wyb=F3r (i twoje oczy :)
  38136.  
  38137. Hej pozdrawiam
  38138.  
  38139. -- =
  38140.  
  38141. Pozdrawiam :-)
  38142.  
  38143. mailto: akmmaya@kki.net.pl
  38144. www: http://www.kki.net.pl/akmmaya
  38145.  
  38146. :-)  w=F3wren  eibos  juCP  ein  (-:
  38147.                                                            Adam Majewski
  38148.  
  38149. From owner-amigapl  Fri Mar 27 20:39:59 1998
  38150. Received: from server.fiber.net.pl (server.fiber.net.pl [195.117.208.101]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA23203 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 20:39:04 +0100 (MET)
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  38154.           Fri, 27 Mar 1998 20:38:02 +0100
  38155. From: Miloslaw Smyk <thorgal@amiga.com.pl>
  38156. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  38157. Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 20:33:42 +0100
  38158. Message-ID: <yam7390.2147.139262880@fiber.net.pl>
  38159. In-Reply-To: <1094.390T1705T6691985@silesia.top.pl>
  38160. X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview3 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
  38161. Organization: W.F.M.H.
  38162. Subject: Re: Paula vs SoundBlaster
  38163. MIME-Version: 1.0
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  38165. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  38166.  
  38167. Dnia 27-Mar-98, Grzegorz Juraszek rzek=B3 co nast=EApuje:
  38168.  
  38169. > Zgadzam sie. Roznica miedzy 14bit Pauli przez AHI po dobrej kalibracji
  38170. > i 16bit Delfiny jest zauwazalna tylko dla osob ze sluchem muzycznym.
  38171.  
  38172. A raczej dla tych, kt=F3re regularnie myj=B1 uszy. ;) Jak dot=B1d nikt kt=
  38173. o mia=B3 u
  38174. mnie sposobno=B6=E6 us=B3ysze=E6 dzwi=EAk z obu urz=B1dze=F1 nie zastanaw=
  38175. ia=B3 si=EA nad tym
  38176. kt=F3re jest kt=F3re.
  38177.  
  38178. > Mowie oczywiscie o modulach 4-8 kanalowych, bo przy wiecej slychac od
  38179. razu.
  38180. [ciach]
  38181. > Najlepiej do testow wziac ten sam modul, a w przypadku peceta i player
  38182. jest
  38183. > wazny, nie kazdy odtwarza tak samo. Mimo wszystko w przypadku zwyklych
  38184. > klonow SB na FM nie mozna oczekiwac cudow.
  38185.  
  38186. Panowie, je=B6li chcecie testowa=E6 jako=B6=E6 karty, to testujcie j=B1 w=
  38187. =B3a=B6nie, nie
  38188. natomiast jako=B6=E6 sampli z modu=B3u, procedury miksowania etc. =A3atwy=
  38189. m, domowym
  38190. testem jest:
  38191.  
  38192. a) zgranie z CD cyfrowych danych utworu charakteryzuj=B1cego si=EA du=BF=B1=
  38193.  dynamik=B1
  38194. (disco-polo nie przejdzie) w 16-tu bitach i 44.1KHz.
  38195. b) odtworzenie owego utworu na tym samym sprz=EAcie muzycznym na przemian=
  38196.  
  38197. przez Paul=EA i kart=EA 16-bit.
  38198. c) w wypadku niestwierdzenia r=F3=BFnic, rozpocz=EAcie nauki j=EAzyka mig=
  38199. owego.
  38200.  
  38201. Czuwaj,
  38202. Mi=B3ek
  38203. -- =
  38204.  
  38205. mailto:thorgal@amiga.com.pl   |  "Man in the Moon and other weird things"=
  38206.  -
  38207. http://wfmh.org.pl/~thorgal/  |  see it at http://wfmh.org.pl/~thorgal/Mo=
  38208. on/
  38209.  
  38210. From owner-amigapl  Fri Mar 27 20:40:14 1998
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  38215.           Fri, 27 Mar 1998 20:38:04 +0100
  38216. From: Miloslaw Smyk <thorgal@amiga.com.pl>
  38217. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  38218. Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 20:35:32 +0100
  38219. Message-ID: <yam7390.1627.139262880@fiber.net.pl>
  38220. In-Reply-To: <yam7389.1078.2016369784@zskl.p.lodz.pl>
  38221. X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview3 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
  38222. Organization: W.F.M.H.
  38223. Subject: Re: Paula vs SoundBlaster
  38224. MIME-Version: 1.0
  38225. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  38226. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  38227.  
  38228. Dnia 26-Mar-98, Grzegorz Kraszewski rzek=B3 co nast=EApuje:
  38229. > Dnia 25-Mar-98, Miloslaw Smyk napisal:
  38230. > =
  38231.  
  38232. >> Z drugiej jednak strony 14-bitowy sygna=B3 z Amigi jest bardzo cichy i=
  38233.  
  38234. s=B3abo
  38235. >> odstaje od szum=F3w t=B3a.
  38236. > =
  38237.  
  38238. > Je=BFeli ma si=EA kiepski sprz=EAt audio... U mnie nie ma =BFadnych szu=
  38239. m=F3w.
  38240.  
  38241.  
  38242. =D3w "kiepski sprz=EAt" nie wiedzie=E6 czemu szumi tylko gdy sygna=B3 pod=
  38243. aje mu
  38244. Paula - z chwil=B1 gdy przestawi=EA wajch=EA na kart=EA 16-bit, magicznym=
  38245.  sposobem
  38246. "kiepsko=B6=E6" sprz=EAtu ulega znacznej redukcji, bo przecie=BF szumu ja=
  38247. kby mniej.
  38248.  
  38249. > Niew=B1tpliwie tak, niestety u siebie nie mam takiej mo=BFliwo=B6ci. Ni=
  38250. emniej u
  38251. > znajomego s=B3ysza=B3em co nieco z karty typu SB clone.
  38252.  
  38253. Sorry, ale takie testy nie uchodz=B1 za zbyt miarodajne.
  38254.  
  38255. >> A co takiego dobrego w miksowaniu analogowym?
  38256. > =
  38257.  
  38258. > Za=B3=F3=BFmy, =BFe masz modek 32 kana=B3owy z samplami 16-bit. Je=BFel=
  38259. i chcesz to
  38260. > upcha=E6 w 2 kana=B3y po 16 bit, to w najlepszym wypadku z ka=BFdego sa=
  38261. mpla
  38262. > tracisz 4 najm=B3odsze bity, a bior=B1c pod uwag=EA stereo panning to 5=
  38263. =2E Wynika
  38264.  
  38265. No, je=B6li _tak_ miksujesz, to nie dziwi=EA si=EA, =BFe potem nie s=B3ys=
  38266. zysz r=F3=BFnic
  38267. pomi=EAdzy kart=B1 a Paul=B1. =
  38268.  
  38269.  
  38270. Chcia=B3em tu napisa=E6 wi=EAcej, ale Artur Muszy=F1ski oszcz=EAdzi=B3 mi=
  38271.  wysi=B3ku, mo=BFe
  38272. wi=EAc dodam tylko, =BFe takie np. DSP56002 miksuje pos=B3uguj=B1c si=EA =
  38273. 24-bitowymi
  38274. pr=F3bkami (odst=EAp S/N >144dB) a sama operacja odbywa si=EA w 56-bitowy=
  38275. m
  38276. akumulatorze (>336dB). _To_ si=EA nazywa miksowanie cyfrowe.
  38277.  
  38278. > Natomiast s=B1 karty np. z 32 kana=B3ami po 16 bit=F3w (tzn. ka=BFdy ka=
  38279. na=B3 ma sw=F3j
  38280. > przetwornik D/A) z regulacj=B1 wzmocnienia i miksowaniem po stronie
  38281. > analogowej.
  38282.  
  38283. Je=B6li w og=F3le maja "stron=EA analogow=B1" to znaczy, =BFe nie ma si=EA=
  38284.  czym
  38285. zachwyca=E6.
  38286.  
  38287. > W takim przypadku nie tracisz z sampla ani jednego bitu. I to
  38288.  
  38289. Tracisz za to inne rzeczy. Naprawd=EA my=B6lisz, =BFe miksowanie analogow=
  38290. e jest
  38291. bezstratne?
  38292.  
  38293. > jest ta r=F3=BFnica. Czy j=B1 s=B3ycha=E6? Moim zdaniem tak, ale najlep=
  38294. iej by=B3oby
  38295. > postawi=E6 dwie maszyny obok siebie...:-) =
  38296.  
  38297.  
  38298. Po cyfrowym miksowaniu na kt=F3rym tracisz 5 bit=F3w z 16-tu nawet g=B3uc=
  38299. hy by
  38300. us=B3ysza=B3. :) Masz wtedy S/N jak z magnetofonu bez Dolby.
  38301.  
  38302.  
  38303. Mi=B3ek
  38304. -- =
  38305.  
  38306. mailto:thorgal@amiga.com.pl   |  "Man in the Moon and other weird things"=
  38307.  -
  38308. http://wfmh.org.pl/~thorgal/  |  see it at http://wfmh.org.pl/~thorgal/Mo=
  38309. on/
  38310.  
  38311. From owner-amigapl  Fri Mar 27 20:40:29 1998
  38312. Received: from rose.man.poznan.pl (root@rose.man.poznan.pl [150.254.173.3]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA23135 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 20:15:02 +0100 (MET)
  38313. Received: from au.poznan.pl (owl.au.poznan.pl [150.254.162.136])
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  38315.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 20:13:21 +0100 (MET)
  38316. Received: from owl.au.poznan.pl (pppa232.poznan.tpnet.pl) by au.poznan.pl (5.x/SMI-SVR4)
  38317.     id AA12439; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 20:13:12 +0100
  38318. From: Roger Kolomlocki <roger@owl.au.poznan.pl>
  38319. To: amigapl@amiga.com.pl
  38320. Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 20:13:47 +0100
  38321. Message-Id: <yam7390.2365.1748335576@owl.au.poznan.pl>
  38322. X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview3 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
  38323. Subject: CD-ROM
  38324. Mime-Version: 1.0
  38325. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  38326. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  38327.  
  38328. Jaki CD-ROM ma na 100% mo=BFliwo=B6=E6 zgrywania track=F3w z p=B3ytki? Za=
  38329. mierzam kupi=E6
  38330. 16x. Podobno Toshiba dziala idealnie z Amig=B1, ale nie wiem czy wszystki=
  38331. e
  38332. modele (od 16 w gor=EA). Swojego czasu mia=B3em Goldstar'a 4x, kt=F3ry ta=
  38333. kiej
  38334. mo=BFliwo=B6ci nie mia=B3 chocia=BF pr=F3bowa=B3em wszystkim =B3=B1cznie =
  38335. z OptyCDPlayer'em
  38336. przez AHI a jego starszy brat (8x) podobno zgrywa d=BCwi=EAk. Dlatego mam=
  38337.  pro=B6b=EA
  38338. je=B6li kto=B6 z Was posiada model, kt=F3ry takie co=B6 takiego zaimpleme=
  38339. ntowane to
  38340. niech napisze. Jeszcze jedno - jak to wygl=B1da z czytnikami w wersji SCS=
  38341. I? Od
  38342. dawna nie widzia=B3em takowych na gie=B3dzie. Czy ceny s=B1 du=BFo wy=BFs=
  38343. ze od wersji
  38344. IDE i czy s=B1 z nimi jakie=B6 problemy?
  38345.  
  38346.  
  38347. Pozdrawiam
  38348. -- =
  38349.  
  38350.               ___      =
  38351.  
  38352.      ___     /  /      =
  38353.  
  38354.      \  \RoGeR /        =
  38355.  
  38356. /roger@owl.au.poznan.pl/
  38357.     A1230T/16/1.2Gb
  38358.         \___/
  38359.  
  38360. From owner-amigapl  Fri Mar 27 20:40:44 1998
  38361. Received: from grendel.sylaba.poznan.pl (root@sylaba-gw.man.poznan.pl [150.254.163.201]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA23170 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 20:27:43 +0100 (MET)
  38362. Received: from sylaba.poznan.pl (baxter@ppp02.sylaba.poznan.pl [195.216.104.102])
  38363.     by grendel.sylaba.poznan.pl (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA23849
  38364.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 20:26:00 +0100 (CET)
  38365. From: Bartlomiej Dubik <baxter@sylaba.poznan.pl>
  38366. Reply-To: baxter@sylaba.poznan.pl
  38367. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  38368. Date: Wed, 11 Jan 1978 01:03:50 +0100
  38369. Message-ID: <yam10.2513.1747993176@grendel.sylaba.poznan.pl>
  38370. In-Reply-To: <yam7390.2404.120352072@priv.onet.pl>
  38371. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  38372. Subject: Re: Amigowy Poznan
  38373. MIME-Version: 1.0
  38374. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
  38375. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  38376.  
  38377. Dnia 27-Mar-98, Siera napisa=EE:
  38378. >Hi,
  38379. >Moze bysmy zrobili wzorem Lodzian tez takie cotygodniowe albo co 2tygodn=
  38380. iowe
  38381. >spotkania amigowcow Poanania. Tylko ilu nas naprawde jest.????
  38382. Nie wiem ilu nas jest, ten temat byl juz kiedys dawno poruszany. =
  38383.  
  38384. Zmarl jednak biedaczek smiercia naturalna. Poznan to nie Lodz ani Wroclaw=
  38385. , =
  38386.  
  38387. niestety... A szkoda, moze tym razem cos wyjdzie ??
  38388. No panowie !!!
  38389. -- =
  38390.  
  38391. Bartlomiej Dubik
  38392. baxter@sylaba.poznan.pl
  38393. E/BOX/1200/030/50MHz/16MB/1.2GB/0.2GB/CDx4......itd
  38394. MOTOROLA ON BOARD !!!!!!!
  38395.  
  38396. From owner-amigapl  Fri Mar 27 20:40:58 1998
  38397. Received: from grendel.sylaba.poznan.pl (root@sylaba-gw.man.poznan.pl [150.254.163.201]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA23199 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 20:35:27 +0100 (MET)
  38398. Received: from sylaba.poznan.pl (baxter@ppp02.sylaba.poznan.pl [195.216.104.102])
  38399.     by grendel.sylaba.poznan.pl (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA24166
  38400.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 20:33:46 +0100 (CET)
  38401. From: Bartlomiej Dubik <baxter@sylaba.poznan.pl>
  38402. Reply-To: baxter@sylaba.poznan.pl
  38403. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  38404. Date: Wed, 11 Jan 1978 01:15:48 +0100
  38405. Message-ID: <yam10.2447.1747857984@grendel.sylaba.poznan.pl>
  38406. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  38407. MIME-Version: 1.0
  38408. Content-Type: text/plain
  38409.  
  38410. Mam problem z Voyagerem nie moge wysylac listow bo wywala mie 
  38411. komunikat nastepujacy:
  38412. Undefinierte stub routine called, jak to ugryzc
  38413. -- 
  38414. Bartlomiej Dubik
  38415. baxter@sylaba.poznan.pl
  38416. E/BOX/1200/030/50MHz/16MB/1.2GB/0.2GB/CDx4......itd
  38417. MOTOROLA ON BOARD !!!!!!!
  38418.  
  38419. From owner-amigapl  Fri Mar 27 21:39:50 1998
  38420. Received: from student.uci.agh.edu.pl (ramix@student.uci.agh.edu.pl [149.156.98.60]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA23382 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 21:12:36 +0100 (MET)
  38421. Received: from localhost (ramix@localhost) by student.uci.agh.edu.pl (8.8.6/8.8.5/ts-tmpl.970124) with SMTP
  38422.        id VAA13494; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 21:11:32 +0100 (MET)
  38423. Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 21:11:31 +0100 (MET)
  38424. From: Grzegorz Junka <ramix@student.uci.agh.edu.pl>
  38425. X-Sender: ramix@student
  38426. To: Lista dyskusyjna uzytkownikow komputera AMIGA AMIGAPL <AMIGA@PLEARN.EDU.PL>
  38427. cc: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  38428. Subject: animacje
  38429. Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.95.980327210932.13368A-100000@student>
  38430. MIME-Version: 1.0
  38431. Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
  38432.  
  38433.  
  38434. Czy moglby mi ktos polecic jakies playery najzwyklejszych animacji iff
  38435. ktore moglyby odtwarzac animacje z dysku, poza VT? i ew. jakim rozkazem
  38436. cos takiego sie w niej wlacza.
  38437.  
  38438. VT niekiedy wiesza sie podczas wyswietlania
  38439. pewnego rodzaju animacji iff, niestety nie wiem jakich. A poniewa sa to
  38440. tez iff, nie mozna ich selektywnie nie odtwarzac VT.
  38441.  
  38442.  
  38443. --
  38444. ,x80Y^"    Member of Amiga Promotion Group and fanatic AMIGA user
  38445. $0+'            Grzegorz Junka "Bastian"
  38446. 08    piccolo@ibm.uci.agh.edu.pl    bastian@apg.plukwa.pdi.net
  38447. 0'
  38448. 9    A1200Inf 040/40Bliz 32Mb 1.6Gb 12x 1942S CN40BC
  38449.  
  38450. From owner-amigapl  Fri Mar 27 22:39:53 1998
  38451. Received: from orka.szczecin.tpnet.pl (orka.szczecin.tpnet.pl [194.204.141.12]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA23529 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 22:31:00 +0100 (MET)
  38452. Received: from server.fiber.net.pl ([195.205.239.35])
  38453.           by orka.szczecin.tpnet.pl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.0)
  38454.            with SMTP id AAF2455 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>;
  38455.           Fri, 27 Mar 1998 22:30:03 +0100
  38456. From: Marcin Orlowski <carlos@wfmh.org.pl>
  38457. To: "[WFMH] Lista uzytkownikow Amigi" <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  38458. Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 19:03:21 +0100
  38459. Message-ID: <yam7390.1074.141179496@www.szczecin.tpnet.pl>
  38460. X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 beta10 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
  38461. Organization: W.F.M.H.   (http://wfmh.org.pl)
  38462. Subject: Joke of the week... (fwd)
  38463. MIME-Version: 1.0
  38464. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  38465. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  38466.  
  38467.  
  38468. To tak a propo. Pliz, chef mersi i no comments.
  38469.  
  38470. *** Begin of forwarded message ***
  38471.  
  38472. From: Marcel Beck
  38473. Subject: Joke of the week...
  38474.  
  38475. --- Forwarded message follows ---
  38476.  
  38477. Hi,
  38478.  
  38479. today I've got the following message from someone trying
  38480. to get YAM 1.3.4 working. Look at his configuration :-)
  38481.  
  38482. *** Forwarded message, originally written by F.Tija on 26-M=E4r-98 ***
  38483.  
  38484. hi um, i heard good things about your program, but cant run it at
  38485. all....im using Win95, 32mb ram with a pentium166 MMX,
  38486. why can't i run the program?
  38487. it says it needs more conventional memory?
  38488. But i have nothing running except for my isp and browser.
  38489.  
  38490. *** End of forwarded message ***
  38491.  
  38492. -- =
  38493.  
  38494.  My software never has bugs. It just develops random features.
  38495.  
  38496.  Marcin                              http://wfmh.org.pl/~carlos/
  38497.                                        mailto:carlos@wfmh.org.pl
  38498.  
  38499.  
  38500. From owner-amigapl  Fri Mar 27 22:40:03 1998
  38501. Received: from orka.szczecin.tpnet.pl (orka.szczecin.tpnet.pl [194.204.141.12]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA23533 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 22:31:07 +0100 (MET)
  38502. Received: from server.fiber.net.pl ([195.205.239.35])
  38503.           by orka.szczecin.tpnet.pl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.0)
  38504.            with SMTP id AAG2455 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>;
  38505.           Fri, 27 Mar 1998 22:30:04 +0100
  38506. From: Marcin Orlowski <carlos@wfmh.org.pl>
  38507. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  38508. Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 22:25:26 +0100
  38509. Message-ID: <yam7390.1334.143067096@www.szczecin.tpnet.pl>
  38510. In-Reply-To: <yam7389.1467.2016369784@zskl.p.lodz.pl>
  38511. X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 beta10 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
  38512. Organization: W.F.M.H.   (http://wfmh.org.pl)
  38513. Subject: Re: Odp: 14" vs 15"
  38514. MIME-Version: 1.0
  38515. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  38516. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  38517.  
  38518. Dnia 26-Mar-98, Grzegorz Kraszewski napisa=B3:
  38519.  
  38520. >> I majestatu (z 2 x wolniejsza grafika na Agacie w trybach w/w etc.) ;-=
  38521. (
  38522. > B=B3=B1d. Tryb DBL powoduje jedynie dwa razy wi=EAksze obci=B1=BFenie m=
  38523. agistrali
  38524. > pami=EAci CHIP w por=F3wnaniu do analogicznego trybu bez DBL, co wcale =
  38525. nie musi
  38526. > oznacza=E6 (i nie oznacza)
  38527.  
  38528. Tryb wy=B6w.: DBLPAL:High Res No Flicker, 256 Kolor=F3w
  38529. ----------------------------------------
  38530. Punkty            190798
  38531. Linie             628
  38532. Rys. poz./pion.   936
  38533. Okr=EAgi            957
  38534. Rysuj elipsy      862
  38535. Prostok=B1t=F3w       25
  38536. Wype=B3nianie       27
  38537. ----------------------------------------
  38538.  
  38539. Tryb wy=B6w.: PAL:High Res Laced, 256 Kolor=F3w
  38540. ----------------------------------------
  38541. Punkty            414496
  38542. Linie             1178
  38543. Rys. poz./pion.   2042
  38544. Okr=EAgi            2126
  38545. Rysuj elipsy      1921
  38546. Prostok=B1t=F3w       54
  38547. Wype=B3nianie       63
  38548. ----------------------------------------
  38549.  
  38550. Mam nadziej=EA, =BFe chocia=BF dzieli=E6 umiesz. ;-)
  38551.  
  38552. > dwukrotnego spowolnienia grafiki. Ja na swojej
  38553. > 030/50 u=BFywam do Workbencha DBLPAL HighRes NoFlicker (672x512) w 32 k=
  38554. olorach
  38555. > i na szybko=B6=E6 grafiki nie narzekam. =
  38556.  
  38557.  
  38558. Tacy co lubi=B1=A0[-]95 te=BF pono=E6 istniej=B1. ;-)
  38559.  
  38560. > A s=B1 jeszcze przecie=BF karty graficzne...
  38561.  
  38562. I chwali=E6 Bozi=EA (cho=E6 to nie na temat)...
  38563.  
  38564. -- =
  38565.  
  38566.  My software never has bugs. It just develops random features.
  38567.  
  38568.  Marcin                              http://wfmh.org.pl/~carlos/
  38569.                                        mailto:carlos@wfmh.org.pl
  38570.  
  38571.  
  38572. From owner-amigapl  Fri Mar 27 23:09:52 1998
  38573. Received: from jantar.ias.wat.waw.pl (jantar.ias.wat.waw.pl [193.59.147.36]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA23593 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 22:51:23 +0100 (MET)
  38574. Received: from jantar.ias.wat.waw.pl (ppp-cst23.warszawa.tpnet.pl) by
  38575.           jantar.ias.wat.waw.pl (MX V4.2 VAX) with SMTP; Fri, 27 Mar 1998
  38576.           22:49:59 MET
  38577. From: Krzysztof Rudnik <rudnik@jantar.ias.wat.waw.pl>
  38578. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  38579. Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 22:45:11 +0100
  38580. Message-ID: <yam7390.596.2016145408@jantar.ias.wat.waw.pl>
  38581. In-Reply-To: <yam7390.2365.1748335576@owl.au.poznan.pl>
  38582. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  38583. Organization: IAS WAT
  38584. Subject: Re: CD-ROM
  38585. MIME-Version: 1.0
  38586. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
  38587. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  38588.  
  38589. Dnia 27-Mar-98, Roger Kolomlocki napisal:
  38590. >Jaki CD-ROM ma na 100% mo=BFliwo=B6=E6 zgrywania track=F3w z p=B3ytki? Z=
  38591. amierzam kupi=E6
  38592. >16x. Podobno Toshiba dziala idealnie z Amig=B1, ale nie wiem czy wszystk=
  38593. ie
  38594. >modele (od 16 w gor=EA). Swojego czasu mia=B3em Goldstar'a 4x, kt=F3ry t=
  38595. akiej
  38596. >mo=BFliwo=B6ci nie mia=B3 chocia=BF pr=F3bowa=B3em wszystkim =B3=B1cznie=
  38597.  z =
  38598.  
  38599. >OptyCDPlayer'em
  38600.  
  38601. Akurat mam GoldStara 4x i co ciekawsze moj zgrywa AUDIO. Zaczal, jak
  38602. zainstalowalem AtapiPnp (taki z cd.device), z atapi.device faktycznie
  38603. nie chcial.
  38604.  
  38605.  
  38606. -- =
  38607.  
  38608. Krzysztof Rudnik     mail,finger: rudnik@jantar.ias.wat.waw.pl
  38609.                      www:   http://www.ias.wat.waw.pl/~rudnik/
  38610.     A1230T 882/50MHz 16MB, CD-ROM, HDD 1GB =
  38611.  
  38612.  
  38613.  
  38614. From owner-amigapl  Fri Mar 27 23:39:55 1998
  38615. Received: from server.fiber.net.pl (server.fiber.net.pl [195.117.208.101]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA23653 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 23:34:58 +0100 (MET)
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  38619.           Fri, 27 Mar 1998 23:33:56 +0100
  38620. From: Miloslaw Smyk <thorgal@amiga.com.pl>
  38621. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  38622. Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 23:30:21 +0100
  38623. Message-ID: <yam7390.1058.146992200@fiber.net.pl>
  38624. In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.3.95.980327130654.14424A-100000@mops>
  38625. X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview3 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
  38626. Organization: W.F.M.H.
  38627. Subject: Re: Jak wymusic deklaracje zmiennych w CHIP RAM
  38628. MIME-Version: 1.0
  38629. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  38630. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  38631.  
  38632. Dnia 27-Mar-98, LeMUr of blabla (Lukasz Prokulski) rzek=B3 co nast=EApuje=
  38633. :
  38634. > On Fri, 27 Mar 1998, Wojciech Kocjan wrote:
  38635. >> Ja te=BF mam taki problem, te=BF zwi=B1zany z alokacj=B1 pami=EAci do =
  38636. grafiki -
  38637. >> potrzebuj=EA mie=E6 bitplany po sobie (jako jeden blok pami=EAci). Teg=
  38638. o chyba
  38639. >> AllocBitMap() nie zrobi.
  38640. > =
  38641.  
  38642. >     Sprobuj zajac normalnie pamiec (odpowiednia wielkosc
  38643. > potrzebna na WSZYSTKIE bitplane'y, dla pewnosci  moze i ciut wiecej
  38644. > ;) przez AllocMem(), a potem w stworzonej strukturze BitMap na "chamca"=
  38645.  
  38646.            ^^^^^^^^^^
  38647.  
  38648. A z jak=B1 flag=B1 =F3w AllocMem()? Z MEMF_CHIP mo=BFe? :)
  38649.  
  38650. > wpisz adresy kolejnych bitplane'ow - zerowy, to poczatek przydzielonego=
  38651.  
  38652. > bloku pamieci, 1szy to ten poczatek+wielkosc jednego bitplane'u; n-ty:
  38653. > poczatek+(n-1)*wielkosc jednego plane'u. Powinno sie udac, a nie jest t=
  38654. o
  38655. > zapewne (99.9% pewnosci) niezgodne z wytycznymi.
  38656.  
  38657. Lepiej nie.
  38658.  
  38659.  
  38660. Rozwi=B1zywanie problemu najlepiej rozpocz=B1=E6 od zastanowienia si=EA, =
  38661. czy
  38662. naprawd=EA potrzebujesz korzysta=E6 z oddzielnych bitplan=F3w. Karty graf=
  38663. iczne
  38664. generalnie operuj=B1 na grafice chunky, wi=EAc w kt=F3rym=B6 miejscu b=EA=
  38665. dzie musia=B3a
  38666. odby=E6 si=EA konwersja p2c - innymi s=B3owy, co=B6 nie b=EAdzie tak szyb=
  38667. kie jak by
  38668. mog=B3o by=E6.
  38669.  
  38670. Nast=EApnie, dlaczego koniecznie jako jeden blok pami=EAci? Co=B6 to dziw=
  38671. nie
  38672. pachnie... Wojtek, napisz co dok=B3adnie chcesz robi=E6, wtedy co=B6 si=EA=
  38673.  
  38674. zaradzi...
  38675.  
  38676.  
  38677. Hej,
  38678. Mi=B3ek
  38679. -- =
  38680.  
  38681. mailto:thorgal@amiga.com.pl   |  "Man in the Moon and other weird things"=
  38682.  -
  38683. http://wfmh.org.pl/~thorgal/  |  see it at http://wfmh.org.pl/~thorgal/Mo=
  38684. on/
  38685.  
  38686. From owner-amigapl  Fri Mar 27 23:40:06 1998
  38687. Received: from server.fiber.net.pl (server.fiber.net.pl [195.117.208.101]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA23651 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 23:34:57 +0100 (MET)
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  38691.           Fri, 27 Mar 1998 23:33:55 +0100
  38692. From: Miloslaw Smyk <thorgal@amiga.com.pl>
  38693. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  38694. Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 21:18:51 +0100
  38695. Message-ID: <yam7390.2562.139262880@fiber.net.pl>
  38696. In-Reply-To: <yam7390.2255.1747840288@kki.net.pl>
  38697. X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview3 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
  38698. Organization: W.F.M.H.
  38699. Subject: Re: DOpus
  38700. MIME-Version: 1.0
  38701. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  38702. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  38703.  
  38704. Dnia 27-Mar-98, Adam Majewski rzek=B3 co nast=EApuje:
  38705.  
  38706. > Je=B6li kto=B6 wie jak ustawi=E6, aby ConfigOpus otwiera=B3 si=EA
  38707. > w okienku na ekranie WB to niech da zna=E6.
  38708.  
  38709. Musisz mie=E6 wi=EAcej kolor=F3w na ekranie WB ni=BF masz w tej chwili.
  38710.  
  38711. Mi=B3ek
  38712. -- =
  38713.  
  38714. mailto:thorgal@amiga.com.pl   |  "Man in the Moon and other weird things"=
  38715.  -
  38716. http://wfmh.org.pl/~thorgal/  |  see it at http://wfmh.org.pl/~thorgal/Mo=
  38717. on/
  38718.  
  38719. From owner-amigapl  Sat Mar 28 02:39:51 1998
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  38723. Date: 26 Mar 98 23:39:02 +0100
  38724. From: "Maciej Gajewski" <maciejg@panda.bg.univ.gda.pl>
  38725. Subject: Re: Wstepniak w MA 3/98
  38726. To: "AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi" <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  38727. In-Reply-To: <yam7388.2509.139049240@fiber.net.pl>
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  38732. X-Mailer: THOR 2.5a (Amiga;TCP/IP) *UNREGISTERED*
  38733.  
  38734. Dnia 25-Mar-98    19:07:50, Miloslaw Smyk napisa³:
  38735.  
  38736. [...]
  38737.  
  38738. >Ps. Wiem, robiê siê bestialski, ale muszê siê rozgrzaæ przed przejêciem
  38739. >obowi±zków Admina. :)
  38740.  
  38741. To mo¿e to jest tytu³ przechodni? Kiedy moja kolej?!? ;D
  38742.  
  38743. --
  38744.  
  38745. Maciej Gajewski     Team *AMIGA*
  38746.  
  38747. From owner-amigapl  Sat Mar 28 10:39:52 1998
  38748. Received: from david.silesia.pik-net.pl (david.silesia.pik-net.pl [195.82.176.1]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA26300 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 10:37:46 +0100 (MET)
  38749. Received: from mail.soft-eks.com.pl. (mail.soft-eks.com.pl [195.82.177.18])
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  38751.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 10:35:42 +0100
  38752. Received: from SOFT_EKSPERT/SpoolDir by mail.soft-eks.com.pl. (Mercury 1.21);
  38753.     28 Mar 98 10:37:27 +1100
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  38755. From: "Darek Kleina" <AMIGA@soft-eks.com.pl>
  38756. To: amigapl@amiga.com.pl
  38757. Date:          Sat, 28 Mar 1998 10:37:20 
  38758. Subject:       Re: Bledy i CrossDos (cd)
  38759. Priority: normal
  38760. X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.22
  38761. Message-ID: <14411C66DA@mail.soft-eks.com.pl.>
  38762.  
  38763. Czesc !!!
  38764.  
  38765. > At 15:44 98-03-23, you wrote:
  38766. > >Jeszcze raz o CrossDos-ie.
  38767. > >Ostatnio kopiowalem kilka plikow na dysk blaszakowy. Uzywalem na Ami 
  38768. > >CrossDos-a 7.01 i na Ami wszystko bylo ok, Natomiast blaszak mial 
  38769. > >dyze problemy z tym plikiem. Scandisk (windowsowy) informowal, ze 
  38770. > 
  38771. > przy CrossDosie7.x skopany jest mfm.device - nalezy wziasc ze starszej wersji,
  38772. > powinno pomoc - u mnie to pomoglo ...
  38773. > 
  38774. > Kaczus
  38775. > 
  38776. Nie wydaje mi sie aby to byl problem mfm.device. Piszac dysk 
  38777. blaszakowy mialem na mysli twardziela pc-TOWEGO, a on jest 
  38778. obslugiwany przez scsi.device.
  38779.  
  38780. Pozdrawiam
  38781.  
  38782. +--------------------------------------------------------------------+
  38783. | Dariusz Kleina                        Amiga & pC programmer        |
  38784. | mailto:amiga@soft-eks.com.pl         Basic/Pascal/C/C++/Asm        |
  38785. |   A1200, HDD 850, CD-ROM 12x, Mem 2+8 Mb, CPU 030/42, FPU 882/20   |
  38786. +--------------------------------------------------------------------+
  38787.         
  38788. From owner-amigapl  Sat Mar 28 12:09:52 1998
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  38793.           Sat, 28 Mar 1998 11:41:34 +0100
  38794. From: Marcin Orlowski <carlos@wfmh.org.pl>
  38795. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  38796. Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 11:35:07 +0100
  38797. Message-ID: <yam7391.361.141002528@www.szczecin.tpnet.pl>
  38798. In-Reply-To: <yam10.2447.1747857984@grendel.sylaba.poznan.pl>
  38799. X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 beta10 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
  38800. Organization: W.F.M.H.   (http://wfmh.org.pl)
  38801. MIME-Version: 1.0
  38802. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  38803. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  38804.  
  38805. Dnia 11-Sty-78, Bartlomiej Dubik napisa=B3:
  38806.  
  38807. > Mam problem z Voyagerem nie moge wysylac listow bo wywala mie =
  38808.  
  38809. > komunikat nastepujacy:
  38810. > Undefinierte stub routine called, jak to ugryzc
  38811.  
  38812. Nie ugryziesz. Z ciekawo=B6ci zapytam: co masz za wersj=EA?
  38813.  
  38814. PS: Tak gwoli informacji: nowy listserv nie b=EAdzie wpuszcza=B3 list=F3w=
  38815.  
  38816.     z przesz=B3o=B6ci.
  38817.  
  38818. -- =
  38819.  
  38820.  My software never has bugs. It just develops random features.
  38821.  
  38822.  Marcin                              http://wfmh.org.pl/~carlos/
  38823.                                        mailto:carlos@wfmh.org.pl
  38824.  
  38825.  
  38826. From owner-amigapl  Sat Mar 28 12:10:03 1998
  38827. Received: from mx1.polbox.com (mx1.polbox.com [195.116.5.16]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA26473 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 11:44:00 +0100 (MET)
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  38830.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 11:48:16 +0100
  38831. From: bezimx <bezimx@polbox.com>
  38832. Reply-To: bezimx <BEZIMX@polbox.com>
  38833. To: amigapl@amiga.com.pl
  38834. Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 11:40:37 +0100
  38835. Message-ID: <yam7391.1871.1747074208@195.116.5.16>
  38836. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  38837. Organization: Technical University of Wroclaw
  38838. Subject: Gielda HD SCSI
  38839. MIME-Version: 1.0
  38840. Content-Type: text/plain
  38841.  
  38842.    Czesc :)
  38843.  
  38844.    Mam do sprzedania :
  38845.  
  38846.    2 dyski Seagate Hawk 
  38847.      Fast SCSI II 2.1 GB cenie 600 zl + ( wysylka )
  38848.    Blizsze informacje na PRIV.
  38849.  
  38850.          
  38851.                Piotr Mirek
  38852.  
  38853.                Motorola Fan 4Ever.
  38854.  
  38855.  
  38856.  
  38857. P>S>
  38858.    Gwarancja do uzgodnienia :) 
  38859.    Dyski chodzily w desktopach Compaq'a 
  38860.    ( nie w serwerach :)  
  38861.    Uprzedzam ze nie mam mozliwosci 
  38862.    wystawienia Faktury ani rachunku VAT :(
  38863. -- 
  38864. Piotr Mirek * BezYmienny *
  38865.  mailto:bezimx@polbox.com
  38866.  
  38867.  
  38868.  
  38869.  
  38870. ----- [ REKLAMA / ADVERTISEMENT ] ----------------------------------------
  38871. Lubisz film?! Wiec na co czekasz? Przylacz sie do FILMWEBU!
  38872. Pierwszy Polski Serwis Filmowy w Internecie  http://www.filmweb.pl
  38873. --------------------------------------------------------------------------
  38874.  
  38875. From owner-amigapl  Sat Mar 28 13:09:53 1998
  38876. Received: from merkury.piotrkow.tpsa.pl (merkury.piotrkow.tpsa.pl [194.204.159.4]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA26566 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 12:49:35 +0100 (MET)
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  38879.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 12:47:50 +0100 (MET)
  38880. Message-Id: <199803281147.MAA12826@merkury.piotrkow.tpsa.pl>
  38881. From: "Arkadiusz Winiarek" <sharky@pertus.com.pl>
  38882. To: <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  38883. Subject: Internet i satelita
  38884. Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 12:49:56 +0100
  38885. X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
  38886. X-Priority: 3
  38887. X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1157
  38888. MIME-Version: 1.0
  38889. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2
  38890. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  38891.  
  38892. Hej!
  38893.  
  38894. Ktos kiedys pisal, ze mozna wykorzystac antene satelitarna do netu.
  38895. A moze ktos przy okazji napisze jak z modemem, satelita i Ami zrobic =
  38896. powyzsze?
  38897.  
  38898.  
  38899.          "Sharky" Arkadiusz Winiarek
  38900.                  Happy Amiga User!
  38901. A-1200T/2.1GB/1260/50/32MB Fast RAM
  38902.                  Jawor woj. legnickie
  38903. From owner-amigapl  Sat Mar 28 13:10:03 1998
  38904. Received: from uznam.top.pl ([195.205.28.2]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA26577 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 12:55:47 +0100 (MET)
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  38907.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 12:57:17 +0100 (CET)
  38908. Date: 28 Mar 98 12:32:53 +0100
  38909. From: "Marek Jablonski" <mjab69@uznam.top.pl>
  38910. Subject: Re: animacje
  38911. To: "AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi" <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  38912. In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.3.95.980327210932.13368A-100000@student>
  38913. Message-ID: <318.391T2677T7524587@uznam.top.pl>
  38914. MIME-Version: 1.0
  38915. Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  38916. Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
  38917. X-Mailer: THOR 2.5a (Amiga;TCP/IP)
  38918.  
  38919. 27-Mar-98 21:11:31. Grzegorz Junka --> amigapl:
  38920.  
  38921. >Czy moglby mi ktos polecic jakies playery najzwyklejszych animacji iff
  38922. >ktore moglyby odtwarzac animacje z dysku, poza VT?
  38923.  
  38924. BigAnim40.lha (gfx/show).
  38925.  
  38926. > i ew. jakim rozkazem cos takiego sie w niej wlacza.
  38927.  
  38928. Jest w³±czone (default). Mo¿na co najwy¿ej wy³±czyæ.
  38929.  
  38930.  
  38931.  MJ
  38932. --
  38933.  
  38934. From owner-amigapl  Sat Mar 28 13:10:13 1998
  38935. Received: from plum.dwd.interkom.pl (dwd.interkom.pl [195.150.21.98]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA26573 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 12:51:21 +0100 (MET)
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  38942. Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 12:35:47 +0100 (CET)
  38943. From: Kamil Iskra <kamil@dwd.interkom.pl>
  38944. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  38945. Subject: Re: *** Linux na Amidze ***
  38946. In-Reply-To: <Pine.HPP.3.95.980327144650.25025A-100000@zeus.polsl.gliwice.pl>
  38947. Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.980328123145.730A-100000@jinks.home>
  38948. MIME-Version: 1.0
  38949. Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-2
  38950. Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE
  38951.  
  38952. On Fri, 27 Mar 1998, Aleksander Salwa wrote:
  38953.  
  38954. > Oczywiscie jestem  chetny - 68k (mam nadzieje,  ze tymczasowo :))
  38955. > Wiem, ze zajmuje to sporo miejsca, ale powinny sie na takiej plytce poza
  38956. > golym Linuxem znalezc jeszcze X-Windows.  W  koncu nie  po to instaluje
  38957. > sie rewelacyjny system, zeby  potem pracowac na konsoli znakowej.
  38958.  
  38959. Wszystkie przyzwoite dystrybucje, kt=F3re widzia=B3em, zawieraj=B1 opr=F3cz=
  38960.  samego
  38961. j=B1dra i niezb=EAdnych program=F3w systemowych tak=BFe system X-Window wra=
  38962. z z
  38963. wieloma aplikacjami, kompilatory, edytory, TeX. C=F3=BF, nie bez powodu
  38964. niekt=F3re dystrybucje nie mieszcz=B1 si=EA na pojedynczej p=B3ytce CD.
  38965.  
  38966. / Kamil Iskra    AmigaOS  Linux/i386  Linux/m68k               \
  38967. | GeekGadgets GCC maintainer   UNIX system administrator       |
  38968. | iskra@student.uci.agh.edu.pl  kiskra@ernie.icslab.agh.edu.pl |
  38969. \ kamil@dwd.interkom.pl   http://student.uci.agh.edu.pl/~iskra /
  38970.  
  38971. From owner-amigapl  Sat Mar 28 13:10:22 1998
  38972. Received: from plum.dwd.interkom.pl (dwd.interkom.pl [195.150.21.98]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA26575 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 12:51:22 +0100 (MET)
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  38979. Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 12:38:37 +0100 (CET)
  38980. From: Kamil Iskra <kamil@dwd.interkom.pl>
  38981. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  38982. Subject: Re: Re[2]: Linux na Ami
  38983. In-Reply-To: <yam7390.2968.2016825208@kki.net.pl>
  38984. Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.980328123554.730B-100000@jinks.home>
  38985. MIME-Version: 1.0
  38986. Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-2
  38987. Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE
  38988.  
  38989. On Fri, 27 Mar 1998, Lolo wrote:
  38990.  
  38991. > > Instalacja poszla, ale przy starcie Linuxa sypia sie komunikaty
  38992. > > bledow, chyba nie moze przelaczyc roota z readonly na read-write,
  38993. [snip]
  38994. > Je=BFeli startujesz "amiboot-5.2 -k vmlinux root=3D/dev/hdbx ro auto vide=
  38995. o=3Dvga"
  38996. > to masz roota read only, zamiast ro wpisz rw i bedzie ok.
  38997.  
  38998. Nie b=EAdzie OK. System powinien by=E6 startowany z root-filesystemem w try=
  38999. bie
  39000. read-only, aby fsck m=F3g=B3 sprawdzi=E6, czy nie ma nim b=B3=EAd=F3w. Je=
  39001. =BFeli to nie
  39002. dzia=B3a (a faktycznie pami=EAtam, =BFe mia=B3em takie problemy po instalac=
  39003. ji
  39004. watchtower), to znaczy to po prostu, =BFe skrypty startowe (/etc/rc*) s=B1
  39005. skopane i trzeba je poprawi=E6.
  39006.  
  39007. / Kamil Iskra    AmigaOS  Linux/i386  Linux/m68k               \
  39008. | GeekGadgets GCC maintainer   UNIX system administrator       |
  39009. | iskra@student.uci.agh.edu.pl  kiskra@ernie.icslab.agh.edu.pl |
  39010. \ kamil@dwd.interkom.pl   http://student.uci.agh.edu.pl/~iskra /
  39011.  
  39012. From owner-amigapl  Sat Mar 28 15:10:07 1998
  39013. Received: from dedal.man.szczecin.pl (dedal.man.szczecin.pl [194.92.39.62]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA26870 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 15:08:47 +0100 (MET)
  39014. From: lukasz_szpikowski@ii.tuniv.szczecin.pl
  39015. Received: from ii.tuniv.szczecin.pl (alpha.ii.tuniv.szczecin.pl [193.59.115.3] (may be forged))
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  39017.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 14:07:52 GMT
  39018. Received: from BETA/SpoolDir by ii.tuniv.szczecin.pl (Mercury 1.31);
  39019.     28 Mar 98 15:09:40 +0100
  39020. Received: from SpoolDir by BETA (Mercury 1.31); 28 Mar 98 15:09:35 +0100
  39021. To: amigapl@amiga.com.pl
  39022. Date:          Sat, 28 Mar 1998 15:09:30 MET-1MEST
  39023. Subject:       Potrzebne materialy o A/BOX'sie !
  39024. Priority: normal
  39025. X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.40 (NDS)
  39026. Message-ID: <7D155630B6@ii.tuniv.szczecin.pl>
  39027.  
  39028. Kolega pilnie potrzebuje materialow dotyczacych projektu Phase5.
  39029. Wszelkiego rodzaju informacje (specyfikacje, planowane osiagi, 
  39030. architektura). Maja one psluzyc do opracowania dla Instytu 
  39031. Informatyki w Szczecinie. Tak wiec moze kilku blacharzom opadna 
  39032. szczeki :). Czego sobie i wam zycze !.
  39033.  
  39034.  
  39035. Z gory dziekuje za wszelka pomoc.
  39036.  
  39037.  
  39038. e-mail: lukasz_szpikowski@beta.ii.tuniv.szczecin.pl
  39039.  
  39040.  
  39041. From owner-amigapl  Sat Mar 28 15:39:53 1998
  39042. Received: from gryzmak.lodz.pdi.net (root@gryzmak.lodz.pdi.net [195.116.162.1]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA26898 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 15:27:38 +0100 (MET)
  39043. Received: from lodz.pdi.net (STEAD@pmone245.lodz.pdi.net [195.116.162.245])
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  39045.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 15:24:41 +0100
  39046. From: Stefan Koralewski <stead@kki.net.pl>
  39047. Reply-To: stead@kki.net.pl
  39048. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  39049. Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 04:06:18 -0500
  39050. Message-ID: <yam7391.879.1745898584@kki.net.pl>
  39051. In-Reply-To: <yam7390.1305.1747827256@kki.net.pl>
  39052. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.2 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  39053. Organization: STEAD
  39054. Subject: Re: Re[2]: Odp: 14" vs 15"
  39055. MIME-Version: 1.0
  39056. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
  39057. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  39058.  
  39059. I'M AN IDIOT BECAUSE I'M USING PIRATED SOFTWARE!
  39060.  
  39061.  
  39062. Dnia 27-Mar-98, Adam Majewski napisa=EE:
  39063. >Dnia 26-Mar-98, Grzegorz Kraszewski napisa=B3:
  39064.  
  39065. >>Dnia 26-Mar-98, Marcin Orlowski napisal:
  39066.  
  39067. >>B=B3=B1d. Tryb DBL powoduje jedynie dwa razy wi=EAksze obci=B1=BFenie m=
  39068. agistrali
  39069. >>pami=EAci CHIP w por=F3wnaniu do analogicznego trybu bez DBL, co wcale =
  39070. nie musi
  39071. >>oznacza=E6 (i nie oznacza) dwukrotnego spowolnienia grafiki. Ja na swoj=
  39072. ej
  39073. >>030/50 u=BFywam do Workbencha DBLPAL HighRes NoFlicker (672x512) w 32
  39074. >>kolorach i na szybko=B6=E6 grafiki nie narzekam.
  39075.  
  39076. >Prze=B3=B1cz si=EA na 256 kolor=F3w i sam zobacz, granica znacznych r=F3=
  39077. =BFnic
  39078. >w pr=EAdko=B6ciach zaczyna si=EA od 64 kolor=F3w w g=F3r=EA :)
  39079.  
  39080. To fakt ale chyba nikt nie ustawia WB zar=F3wno w Palu jak i w DBLPalu na=
  39081.  wi=EBcej ni=FB 64
  39082. kolory (hmm.. w sumie to sam znam takiego osobnika, ale ten cz=EEowiek je=
  39083. st znany w Lodzi
  39084. z wielu nieprzecietnych zagra=EF. Nie wiem czy kto=F4 pami=EBta =FBart pr=
  39085. imaaprilisowy w MA o w95
  39086.  na Amidze - on si=EB pyta=EE w Eurece o te windowsy - czy juz s=E2 - no =
  39087. comment)
  39088. Natomiast co do 64 kolor=F3w polecam FastBlitter 64 kolory jak 16 - to dz=
  39089. iala !!!
  39090. Natomiast moj sterownik to DBLPal 704x550, tak tez mozna :)))
  39091.  
  39092. Poza tym i tak najlepiej kupic GFX - jesli ktos ma kase...
  39093.  
  39094. Pozdrawiam         STEad
  39095.  
  39096. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
  39097. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
  39098. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
  39099. | STEAD is registered and trademark and bla, bla, bla... |
  39100. |         _                                              |
  39101. |        // STEad Stefan Koralewski   A-12oo/o3o/5o/32Mb |         =
  39102.  
  39103. |       // steAD Adam Tynenski        CDR/4.8Gb Hdd/SCSI |
  39104. | _ /\ // stead@kki.net.pl            M1538s/HDFlop/28.8 |
  39105. | \\\/// stead@lodz.pdi.net                              |
  39106. |  \\// PPC603e/250/40 cooming soon czyli budziet bystra |       =
  39107.  
  39108. |   ""                                                   |  =
  39109.  
  39110. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
  39111. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
  39112. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
  39113.  
  39114. From owner-amigapl  Sat Mar 28 15:40:03 1998
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  39116. Received: from lodz.pdi.net (STEAD@pmone245.lodz.pdi.net [195.116.162.245])
  39117.     by gryzmak.lodz.pdi.net (8.8.7/2.1.1/L) with SMTP id PAA18937
  39118.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 15:24:36 +0100
  39119. From: Stefan Koralewski <stead@kki.net.pl>
  39120. Reply-To: Stefan Koralewski <stead@kki.net.pl>
  39121. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  39122. Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 09:08:58 -0500
  39123. Message-ID: <yam7391.2913.1748473408@kki.net.pl>
  39124. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.2 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  39125. Organization: STEAD
  39126. Subject: Re: CD-ROM
  39127. MIME-Version: 1.0
  39128. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
  39129. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  39130.  
  39131. I'M AN IDIOT BECAUSE I'M USING PIRATED SOFTWARE!
  39132.  
  39133.  
  39134. Dnia 27-Mar-98, Roger Kolomlocki napisa=EE:
  39135. >Jaki CD-ROM ma na 100% mo=BFliwo=B6=E6 zgrywania track=F3w z p=B3ytki? Z=
  39136. amierzam kupi=E6
  39137. >16x. Podobno Toshiba dziala idealnie z Amig=B1, ale nie wiem czy wszystk=
  39138. ie
  39139. >modele (od 16 w gor=EA). Swojego czasu mia=B3em Goldstar'a 4x, kt=F3ry t=
  39140. akiej
  39141. >mo=BFliwo=B6ci nie mia=B3 chocia=BF pr=F3bowa=B3em wszystkim =B3=B1cznie=
  39142.  z OptyCDPlayer'em
  39143. >przez AHI a jego starszy brat (8x) podobno zgrywa d=BCwi=EAk. Dlatego ma=
  39144. m pro=B6b=EA
  39145. >je=B6li kto=B6 z Was posiada model, kt=F3ry takie co=B6 takiego zaimplem=
  39146. entowane to
  39147. >niech napisze. Jeszcze jedno - jak to wygl=B1da z czytnikami w wersji SC=
  39148. SI? Od
  39149. >dawna nie widzia=B3em takowych na gie=B3dzie. Czy ceny s=B1 du=BFo wy=BF=
  39150. sze od wersji
  39151. >IDE i czy s=B1 z nimi jakie=B6 problemy?
  39152.  
  39153. Napisz=EB ci co wiem, jesli par=EB os=F3b dorzuci jeszcze troch=EB info, =
  39154. to b=EBdziesz mia=EE w miar=EB
  39155. jasny obraz sytuacji.
  39156. Przede wszystkim pytaj przy zakupie o opcj=EB READ CDDA danego modelu (cz=
  39157. y posiada).
  39158. Jezeli tak, to na pewno mo=FBna zgrywac d=FAwi=EBk. My=F4l=EB, =FBe ponie=
  39159. wa=FB pecetowcy te=FB coraz cz=EB=F4ciej o to pytaj=E2, to sprzedawcy wie=
  39160. dz=E2 ju=FB raczej o co chodzi.
  39161. Z moich do=F4wiadzcze=EF wynika =FBe t=EB opcj=EB ma na pewno Philips x8 =
  39162. i CreativeLabs x16
  39163. Nec x 4, Sony x 8, BTC x 16
  39164. Sorki, ale innych modeli nie pamietam.
  39165. Natomiast je=F4li chodzi o SCSI, to fakty s=E2 takie. W przeci=EBtnym skl=
  39166. epie (uciekaj od sklep=F3w
  39167. z Macintoshami - ceny zabijaj=E2 na miejscu) CDRom SCSI jest o wiele dro=FB=
  39168. szy niz IDE, lecz =
  39169.  
  39170. trafiaj=E2 si=EB mo=FBliwo=F4ci ta=EFszego zakupu - trzeba po prostu posz=
  39171. ukac. Dwa modele jakie mia=EEem
  39172. mia=EEy opcj=EB READ CDDA. Toshiba x2 i Philips x4. Keszcze lepiej sprawa=
  39173.  wygl=E2da z nagrywarkami. Z testowanych trzech (SCSI) READ CDDA mialy ws=
  39174. zystkie - no ale to chyba jest logiczne.
  39175. Aha z modelami SCSI nie ma przy Ami najmniejszych problem=F3w (przynajmni=
  39176. ej u mnie na Blizzard SCSI Controller)
  39177.  
  39178. Pozdrawiam             STEad
  39179.  
  39180. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
  39181. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
  39182. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
  39183. | STEAD is registered and trademark and bla, bla, bla... |
  39184. |         _                                              |
  39185. |        // STEad Stefan Koralewski   A-12oo/o3o/5o/32Mb |         =
  39186.  
  39187. |       // steAD Adam Tynenski        CDR/4.8Gb Hdd/SCSI |
  39188. | _ /\ // stead@kki.net.pl            M1538s/HDFlop/28.8 |
  39189. | \\\/// stead@lodz.pdi.net                              |
  39190. |  \\// PPC603e/250/40 cooming soon czyli budziet bystra |       =
  39191.  
  39192. |   ""                                                   |  =
  39193.  
  39194. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
  39195. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
  39196. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
  39197.  
  39198. From owner-amigapl  Sat Mar 28 16:39:53 1998
  39199. Received: from student.uci.agh.edu.pl (ramix@student.uci.agh.edu.pl [149.156.98.60]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA26960 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 16:12:37 +0100 (MET)
  39200. Received: from localhost (ramix@localhost) by student.uci.agh.edu.pl (8.8.6/8.8.5/ts-tmpl.970124) with SMTP
  39201.        id QAA29892 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 16:11:58 +0100 (MET)
  39202. Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 16:11:58 +0100 (MET)
  39203. From: Grzegorz Junka <ramix@student.uci.agh.edu.pl>
  39204. X-Sender: ramix@student
  39205. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  39206. Subject: Re: animacje
  39207. In-Reply-To: <318.391T2677T7524587@uznam.top.pl>
  39208. Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.95.980328160959.29383B-100000@student>
  39209. MIME-Version: 1.0
  39210. Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
  39211.  
  39212. > >Czy moglby mi ktos polecic jakies playery najzwyklejszych animacji iff
  39213. > >ktore moglyby odtwarzac animacje z dysku, poza VT?
  39214. > 
  39215. > BigAnim40.lha (gfx/show).
  39216.  
  39217. Juz wiem, dlaczego biganim mi nie odpowiadal! Wyswietla on animacje tylko
  39218. w palu. Nie mozna mu wlaczyc wyswietlania w multiscanie. Visage i VT to
  39219. potrafia, ale vt sie wiesza a visage nie odtwarza z dysku. Sa jeszcze
  39220. jakies mozliwosci?
  39221.  
  39222. --
  39223. ,x80Y^"    Member of Amiga Promotion Group and fanatic AMIGA user
  39224. $0+'            Grzegorz Junka "Bastian"
  39225. 08    piccolo@ibm.uci.agh.edu.pl    bastian@apg.plukwa.pdi.net
  39226. 0'
  39227. 9    A1200Inf 040/40Bliz 32Mb 1.6Gb 12x 1942S CN40BC
  39228.  
  39229. From owner-amigapl  Sat Mar 28 17:09:53 1998
  39230. Received: from gryzmak.lodz.pdi.net (root@gryzmak.lodz.pdi.net [195.116.162.1]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA27030 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 16:59:55 +0100 (MET)
  39231. Received: from lodz.pdi.net (STEAD@pmone226.lodz.pdi.net [195.116.162.226])
  39232.     by gryzmak.lodz.pdi.net (8.8.7/2.1.1/L) with SMTP id QAA23514
  39233.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 16:56:58 +0100
  39234. From: Stefan Koralewski <stead@kki.net.pl>
  39235. Reply-To: Stefan Koralewski <stead@kki.net.pl>
  39236. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  39237. Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 09:08:58 -0500
  39238. Message-ID: <yam7391.2913.1748473408@kki.net.pl>
  39239. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.2 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  39240. Organization: STEAD
  39241. Subject: Re: CD-ROM
  39242. MIME-Version: 1.0
  39243. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
  39244. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  39245.  
  39246. I'M AN IDIOT BECAUSE I'M USING PIRATED SOFTWARE!
  39247.  
  39248.  
  39249. Dnia 27-Mar-98, Roger Kolomlocki napisa=EE:
  39250. >Jaki CD-ROM ma na 100% mo=BFliwo=B6=E6 zgrywania track=F3w z p=B3ytki? Z=
  39251. amierzam kupi=E6
  39252. >16x. Podobno Toshiba dziala idealnie z Amig=B1, ale nie wiem czy wszystk=
  39253. ie
  39254. >modele (od 16 w gor=EA). Swojego czasu mia=B3em Goldstar'a 4x, kt=F3ry t=
  39255. akiej
  39256. >mo=BFliwo=B6ci nie mia=B3 chocia=BF pr=F3bowa=B3em wszystkim =B3=B1cznie=
  39257.  z OptyCDPlayer'em
  39258. >przez AHI a jego starszy brat (8x) podobno zgrywa d=BCwi=EAk. Dlatego ma=
  39259. m pro=B6b=EA
  39260. >je=B6li kto=B6 z Was posiada model, kt=F3ry takie co=B6 takiego zaimplem=
  39261. entowane to
  39262. >niech napisze. Jeszcze jedno - jak to wygl=B1da z czytnikami w wersji SC=
  39263. SI? Od
  39264. >dawna nie widzia=B3em takowych na gie=B3dzie. Czy ceny s=B1 du=BFo wy=BF=
  39265. sze od wersji
  39266. >IDE i czy s=B1 z nimi jakie=B6 problemy?
  39267.  
  39268. Napisz=EB ci co wiem, jesli par=EB os=F3b dorzuci jeszcze troch=EB info, =
  39269. to b=EBdziesz mia=EE w miar=EB
  39270. jasny obraz sytuacji.
  39271. Przede wszystkim pytaj przy zakupie o opcj=EB READ CDDA danego modelu (cz=
  39272. y posiada).
  39273. Jezeli tak, to na pewno mo=FBna zgrywac d=FAwi=EBk. My=F4l=EB, =FBe ponie=
  39274. wa=FB pecetowcy te=FB coraz cz=EB=F4ciej o to pytaj=E2, to sprzedawcy wie=
  39275. dz=E2 ju=FB raczej o co chodzi.
  39276. Z moich do=F4wiadzcze=EF wynika =FBe t=EB opcj=EB ma na pewno Philips x8 =
  39277. i CreativeLabs x16
  39278. Nec x 4, Sony x 8, BTC x 16
  39279. Sorki, ale innych modeli nie pamietam.
  39280. Natomiast je=F4li chodzi o SCSI, to fakty s=E2 takie. W przeci=EBtnym skl=
  39281. epie (uciekaj od sklep=F3w
  39282. z Macintoshami - ceny zabijaj=E2 na miejscu) CDRom SCSI jest o wiele dro=FB=
  39283. szy niz IDE, lecz =
  39284.  
  39285. trafiaj=E2 si=EB mo=FBliwo=F4ci ta=EFszego zakupu - trzeba po prostu posz=
  39286. ukac. Dwa modele jakie mia=EEem
  39287. mia=EEy opcj=EB READ CDDA. Toshiba x2 i Philips x4. Keszcze lepiej sprawa=
  39288.  wygl=E2da z nagrywarkami. Z testowanych trzech (SCSI) READ CDDA mialy ws=
  39289. zystkie - no ale to chyba jest logiczne.
  39290. Aha z modelami SCSI nie ma przy Ami najmniejszych problem=F3w (przynajmni=
  39291. ej u mnie na Blizzard SCSI Controller)
  39292.  
  39293. Pozdrawiam             STEad
  39294.  
  39295. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
  39296. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
  39297. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
  39298. | STEAD is registered and trademark and bla, bla, bla... |
  39299. |         _                                              |
  39300. |        // STEad Stefan Koralewski   A-12oo/o3o/5o/32Mb |         =
  39301.  
  39302. |       // steAD Adam Tynenski        CDR/4.8Gb Hdd/SCSI |
  39303. | _ /\ // stead@kki.net.pl            M1538s/HDFlop/28.8 |
  39304. | \\\/// stead@lodz.pdi.net                              |
  39305. |  \\// PPC603e/250/40 cooming soon czyli budziet bystra |       =
  39306.  
  39307. |   ""                                                   |  =
  39308.  
  39309. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
  39310. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
  39311. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
  39312.  
  39313. From owner-amigapl  Sat Mar 28 17:10:04 1998
  39314. Received: from gryzmak.lodz.pdi.net (root@gryzmak.lodz.pdi.net [195.116.162.1]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA27028 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 16:59:51 +0100 (MET)
  39315. Received: from lodz.pdi.net (STEAD@pmone226.lodz.pdi.net [195.116.162.226])
  39316.     by gryzmak.lodz.pdi.net (8.8.7/2.1.1/L) with SMTP id QAA23504
  39317.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 16:56:53 +0100
  39318. From: Stefan Koralewski <stead@kki.net.pl>
  39319. Reply-To: stead@kki.net.pl
  39320. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  39321. Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 04:06:18 -0500
  39322. Message-ID: <yam7391.879.1745898584@kki.net.pl>
  39323. In-Reply-To: <yam7390.1305.1747827256@kki.net.pl>
  39324. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.2 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  39325. Organization: STEAD
  39326. Subject: Re: Re[2]: Odp: 14" vs 15"
  39327. MIME-Version: 1.0
  39328. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
  39329. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  39330.  
  39331. I'M AN IDIOT BECAUSE I'M USING PIRATED SOFTWARE!
  39332.  
  39333.  
  39334. Dnia 27-Mar-98, Adam Majewski napisa=EE:
  39335. >Dnia 26-Mar-98, Grzegorz Kraszewski napisa=B3:
  39336.  
  39337. >>Dnia 26-Mar-98, Marcin Orlowski napisal:
  39338.  
  39339. >>B=B3=B1d. Tryb DBL powoduje jedynie dwa razy wi=EAksze obci=B1=BFenie m=
  39340. agistrali
  39341. >>pami=EAci CHIP w por=F3wnaniu do analogicznego trybu bez DBL, co wcale =
  39342. nie musi
  39343. >>oznacza=E6 (i nie oznacza) dwukrotnego spowolnienia grafiki. Ja na swoj=
  39344. ej
  39345. >>030/50 u=BFywam do Workbencha DBLPAL HighRes NoFlicker (672x512) w 32
  39346. >>kolorach i na szybko=B6=E6 grafiki nie narzekam.
  39347.  
  39348. >Prze=B3=B1cz si=EA na 256 kolor=F3w i sam zobacz, granica znacznych r=F3=
  39349. =BFnic
  39350. >w pr=EAdko=B6ciach zaczyna si=EA od 64 kolor=F3w w g=F3r=EA :)
  39351.  
  39352. To fakt ale chyba nikt nie ustawia WB zar=F3wno w Palu jak i w DBLPalu na=
  39353.  wi=EBcej ni=FB 64
  39354. kolory (hmm.. w sumie to sam znam takiego osobnika, ale ten cz=EEowiek je=
  39355. st znany w Lodzi
  39356. z wielu nieprzecietnych zagra=EF. Nie wiem czy kto=F4 pami=EBta =FBart pr=
  39357. imaaprilisowy w MA o w95
  39358.  na Amidze - on si=EB pyta=EE w Eurece o te windowsy - czy juz s=E2 - no =
  39359. comment)
  39360. Natomiast co do 64 kolor=F3w polecam FastBlitter 64 kolory jak 16 - to dz=
  39361. iala !!!
  39362. Natomiast moj sterownik to DBLPal 704x550, tak tez mozna :)))
  39363.  
  39364. Poza tym i tak najlepiej kupic GFX - jesli ktos ma kase...
  39365.  
  39366. Pozdrawiam         STEad
  39367.  
  39368. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
  39369. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
  39370. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
  39371. | STEAD is registered and trademark and bla, bla, bla... |
  39372. |         _                                              |
  39373. |        // STEad Stefan Koralewski   A-12oo/o3o/5o/32Mb |         =
  39374.  
  39375. |       // steAD Adam Tynenski        CDR/4.8Gb Hdd/SCSI |
  39376. | _ /\ // stead@kki.net.pl            M1538s/HDFlop/28.8 |
  39377. | \\\/// stead@lodz.pdi.net                              |
  39378. |  \\// PPC603e/250/40 cooming soon czyli budziet bystra |       =
  39379.  
  39380. |   ""                                                   |  =
  39381.  
  39382. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
  39383. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
  39384. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
  39385.  
  39386. From owner-amigapl  Sat Mar 28 17:10:13 1998
  39387. Received: from gryzmak.lodz.pdi.net (root@gryzmak.lodz.pdi.net [195.116.162.1]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA27032 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 16:59:57 +0100 (MET)
  39388. Received: from lodz.pdi.net (STEAD@pmone226.lodz.pdi.net [195.116.162.226])
  39389.     by gryzmak.lodz.pdi.net (8.8.7/2.1.1/L) with SMTP id QAA23518
  39390.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 16:57:00 +0100
  39391. From: Adam Tynenski <stead@lodz.pdi.net>
  39392. Reply-To: stead@lodz.pdi.net
  39393. To: amigapl@amiga.com.pl
  39394. Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 16:52:36 +0100
  39395. Message-ID: <yam7391.1848.1745890760@mail.lodz.pdi.net>
  39396. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5    - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
  39397. Organization: WorldFederationOfAmigaUsers
  39398. Subject: Prosba do Admina
  39399. MIME-Version: 1.0
  39400. Content-Type: text/plain
  39401.  
  39402. I'M AN IDIOT BECAUSE I'M USING PIRATED SOFTWARE!
  39403.  
  39404.  
  39405. W zwiazku z faktem, ze przebudowuje sie serwer KKI (kki.net.pl)
  39406. jest malutka prosba do Ciebie Adminie
  39407.  
  39408. Nie wywalaj uzytkownikow KKI na razie. Od poniedzialku KKI znow zacznie
  39409. funkcjonowac...
  39410.  
  39411. -- 
  39412. ==========================================================
  39413. | STEAD is registered and trademark and bla, bla, bla... |
  39414. |         _                                              |
  39415. |        // steAD-Adam Tynenski       A-12oo/o3o/5o/32Mb |
  39416. |       //                            CDR/4.8Gb Hdd/SCSI |
  39417. | _ /\ // stead@kki.net.pl            M1538s/HDFlop/28.8 |
  39418. | \\\/// stead@lodz.pdi.net   ......  ................o  |
  39419. |  \\//                            :..: MailMe !!!!!! :  |
  39420. |   ""                                o...............:  |
  39421. ==========================================================
  39422.  
  39423. From owner-amigapl  Sat Mar 28 18:09:54 1998
  39424. Received: from arka.mtl.pl (root@mtl.pl [195.116.4.4]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA27178 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 17:40:17 +0100 (MET)
  39425. Received: from gie-da (rmod11.mtl.pl [195.116.164.13]) by arka.mtl.pl (8.8.7/8.6.12) with ESMTP id RAA24781; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 17:34:02 +0100 (MET)
  39426. Message-Id: <199803281634.RAA24781@arka.mtl.pl>
  39427. From: "Adam Zaparcinski" <gielda@mtl.pl>
  39428. To: "AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi" <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>,
  39429.         "Lista dyskusyjna uzytkownikow komputera AMIGA AMIGAPL" <AMIGA@PLEARN.EDU.PL>
  39430. Subject: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Amigowy_Wroc=B3aw_=5Bbylo:_Amigowy_Poznan=5D?=
  39431. Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 17:26:17 +0100
  39432. X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
  39433. X-Priority: 3
  39434. X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155
  39435. MIME-Version: 1.0
  39436. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2
  39437. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
  39438.  
  39439. > Hi,
  39440. > Moze bysmy zrobili wzorem Lodzian tez takie cotygodniowe albo co 2tygodniowe
  39441. > spotkania amigowcow Poanania. Tylko ilu nas naprawde jest.????
  39442. > 
  39443. A mo¿e Wroc³awscy Amigowcy te¿ zechcieli by siê od czasu do czasu spotykaæ?
  39444. Podobno we Wrocku jest nas trochê. Warto by siê spotkaæ zw³aszcza, ¿e zbli¿a
  39445. siê wa¿na dla Amigowców data.
  39446.  
  39447. Adam 'Sherwood' Zaparciñski
  39448. From owner-amigapl  Sat Mar 28 18:10:05 1998
  39449. Received: from arka.mtl.pl (root@mtl.pl [195.116.4.4]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA27185 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 17:40:34 +0100 (MET)
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  39451. Message-Id: <199803281634.RAA24794@arka.mtl.pl>
  39452. From: "Adam Zaparcinski" <gielda@mtl.pl>
  39453. To: "Lista dyskusyjna uzytkownikow komputera AMIGA AMIGAPL" <AMIGA@PLEARN.EDU.PL>,
  39454.         "AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi" <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  39455. Subject: Potrzebni betatesterzy
  39456. Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 17:36:24 +0100
  39457. X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
  39458. X-Priority: 3
  39459. X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155
  39460. MIME-Version: 1.0
  39461. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2
  39462. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
  39463.  
  39464. W zwi±zku z tym, ¿e koñczê w³a¶nie mój program potrzebujê parê osób, które
  39465. odpali³y by go u siebie i powiedzia³y mi jak dzia³a. Ten program to "Podatkowa
  39466. ksiêga przychodów i rozchodów" wiêc mile widziani ludzie znaj±cy siê choæ
  39467. trochê na podatkach - najlepiej prowadz±cy firmy. Wymagania programu to:
  39468.  
  39469. 1. Amiga z systemem 2.0 lub nowszym
  39470. 2. Zainstalowany pakiet MUI
  39471.  
  39472. W sumie na standardowej A1200 bêdzie chodziæ bez problemów. Na A600 lub A500+
  39473. itp. te¿ powinno pój¶æ. Oczywi¶cie twardziel jest tu niezbêdny (g³ównie ze
  39474. wzglêdu na MUI). Potrzebujê 3-4 osoby z w miarê zró¿nicowanymi konfigami
  39475. (przyda³by siê kto¶ z PPC). Program bêdzie shareware a betatesterzy w zamian
  39476. za pomoc otrzymaj± zarejestrowane wersje.
  39477.  
  39478. Chêtnych zapraszam na priva.
  39479.  
  39480. Adam 'Sherwood' Zaparciñski
  39481. mailto: gielda@mtl.pl
  39482. From owner-amigapl  Sat Mar 28 18:10:15 1998
  39483. Received: from arka.mtl.pl (root@mtl.pl [195.116.4.4]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA27174 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 17:40:13 +0100 (MET)
  39484. Received: from gie-da (rmod11.mtl.pl [195.116.164.13]) by arka.mtl.pl (8.8.7/8.6.12) with ESMTP id RAA24768 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 17:33:58 +0100 (MET)
  39485. Message-Id: <199803281633.RAA24768@arka.mtl.pl>
  39486. From: "Adam Zaparcinski" <gielda@mtl.pl>
  39487. To: "AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi" <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  39488. Subject: Odp: Re[2]: Odp: Odp: Odp: mUSASHI and AmigaOS
  39489. Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 19:24:17 +0100
  39490. X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
  39491. X-Priority: 3
  39492. X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155
  39493. MIME-Version: 1.0
  39494. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2
  39495. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
  39496.  
  39497. >Nie no, pewnych spraw nie mo¿emy przeginaæ :-). To ¿e cprppc siê wali, to
  39498. >jest wina autorów tego¿ cprppc i nikogo innego, ewentualnie hackerskich
  39499. >nak³adek zainstalowanych w systemie (a mo¿e w³a¶nie "cyberguarda itp tooli w
  39500. >pamiêci"?). IMO ochrona pamiêci wprowadzona do systemu na sta³e to sposób na
  39501. >przerzucenie czê¶ci kosztów tworzenia oprogramowania z programistów na
  39502. >u¿ytkowników. Bo taka ochrona wymaga pewnych zasobów sprzêtowych, czy¿ nie?
  39503. >A za to p³aci u¿ytkownik...
  39504.  
  39505. Dobrze mówisz!
  39506.  
  39507. >I jeszcze zauwa¿ê, ¿e nawet gdyby ochrona pamiêci zapobiega³a zwaleniu
  39508. >systemu
  39509. >przez cprppc, to sam ten task i tak prawdopodobnie by zawis³ ("Program
  39510. >cprppc wykona³ nieprawid³ow± operacjê" ;-))), i po kilku odpaleniach i tak
  39511. >zabrak³oby Ci pamiêci -> reboot systemu...
  39512.  
  39513. Ewentualnie mo¿na by go w nieskoñczono¶æ odpalaæ, zwisaæ i usuwaæ z pamiêci.
  39514. Równie dobrze mo¿na odpalaæ, zwisaæ i resetowaæ ca³± Amigê a FastBoot za³atwia
  39515. nam szybki restart.
  39516.  
  39517. Sherwood
  39518.  
  39519. From owner-amigapl  Sat Mar 28 18:10:25 1998
  39520. Received: from arka.mtl.pl (root@mtl.pl [195.116.4.4]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA27180 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 17:40:20 +0100 (MET)
  39521. Received: from gie-da (rmod11.mtl.pl [195.116.164.13]) by arka.mtl.pl (8.8.7/8.6.12) with ESMTP id RAA24790 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 17:34:06 +0100 (MET)
  39522. Message-Id: <199803281634.RAA24790@arka.mtl.pl>
  39523. From: "Adam Zaparcinski" <gielda@mtl.pl>
  39524. To: "AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi" <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  39525. Subject: Odp: Re[2]: Jak wymusic deklaracje zmiennych w CHIP RAM
  39526. Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 17:27:35 +0100
  39527. X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
  39528. X-Priority: 3
  39529. X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155
  39530. MIME-Version: 1.0
  39531. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
  39532. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
  39533.  
  39534. >    Sprobuj zajac normalnie pamiec (odpowiednia wielkosc
  39535. >potrzebna na WSZYSTKIE bitplane'y, dla pewnosci  moze i ciut wiecej
  39536. >;) przez AllocMem(), a potem w stworzonej strukturze BitMap na "chamca"
  39537. >wpisz adresy kolejnych bitplane'ow - zerowy, to poczatek przydzielonego
  39538. >bloku pamieci, 1szy to ten poczatek+wielkosc jednego bitplane'u; n-ty:
  39539. >poczatek+(n-1)*wielkosc jednego plane'u. Powinno sie udac, a nie jest to
  39540. >zapewne (99.9% pewnosci) niezgodne z wytycznymi.
  39541.  
  39542. W sumie pomys³ OK ale proponowa³bym zamiast AllocMem() u¿yæ AllocRaster().
  39543.  
  39544. A'propos wytycznych - gdzie je mo¿na znaleŸæ?
  39545.  
  39546. Sherwood
  39547. From owner-amigapl  Sat Mar 28 18:10:35 1998
  39548. Received: from arka.mtl.pl (root@mtl.pl [195.116.4.4]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA27176 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 17:40:15 +0100 (MET)
  39549. Received: from gie-da (rmod11.mtl.pl [195.116.164.13]) by arka.mtl.pl (8.8.7/8.6.12) with ESMTP id RAA24775 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 17:34:00 +0100 (MET)
  39550. Message-Id: <199803281634.RAA24775@arka.mtl.pl>
  39551. From: "Adam Zaparcinski" <gielda@mtl.pl>
  39552. To: "AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi" <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  39553. Subject: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Odp:_Ochrona_pami=EAci?=
  39554. Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 19:33:35 +0100
  39555. X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
  39556. X-Priority: 3
  39557. X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155
  39558. MIME-Version: 1.0
  39559. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2
  39560. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
  39561.  
  39562. >> Nie wiem, co ma Arexx do ochrony pamieci. Arexx uzywa bardzo modulowej
  39563. >> struktury danych do porozumiewania sie z programami  - moim zdaniem Arexx
  39564. >> raczej nie mialby zadnych problemow z ochrona pamieci. Najwiekszym
  39565. >problemem
  39566. >> sa msg porty i wiadomosci, przekazujace pointery do danych miedzy taskami.
  39567. >
  39568. >... i BOOPSI.
  39569.  
  39570. Tu przyszed³ mi do g³owy taki pomys³ (tylko nie bluzgajcie mnie za herezje)
  39571. czy nie da³oby siê tego jako¶ zapatchowaæ. Przyk³adowo chcemy wys³aæ
  39572. wiadomo¶æ. Wysy³amy j± zwyczajnie a ³atka za³o¿ona na SendMsg() najpierw
  39573. kopiuje j± (w ramach tasku wysy³aj±cego) do wspólnej pamiêci a potem wywo³uje
  39574. senda ju¿ ze wska¿nikiem na odpowiedni± wiadomo¶æ w pamiêci wspólnej. Co wy na
  39575. to. Oczywi¶cie wiem, ¿e to spowolni³oby system ale nie ma ró¿y bez kolców,
  39576. zreszt± z ochron± pamiêci i tak podczas przesy³aania wiadomo¶ci trzeba je
  39577. kopiowaæ.
  39578.  
  39579. Sherwood
  39580. From owner-amigapl  Sat Mar 28 18:40:04 1998
  39581. Received: from opnt.optimus.wroc.pl (opnt.optimus.wroc.pl [195.117.195.3]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA27287 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 18:20:44 +0100 (MET)
  39582. Received: from opnt.optimus.wroc.pl (unverified [195.116.164.19]) by opnt.optimus.wroc.pl
  39583.  (EMWAC SMTPRS 0.83) with SMTP id <B0000083652@opnt.optimus.wroc.pl>;
  39584.  Sat, 28 Mar 1998 18:18:38 +0100
  39585. From: Maciej Matyka <maq@opnt.optimus.wroc.pl>
  39586. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  39587. Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 18:16:51 +0100
  39588. Message-ID: <yam7391.2574.2014540808@opnt.optimus.wroc.pl>
  39589. In-Reply-To: <yam7391.1848.1745890760@mail.lodz.pdi.net>
  39590. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  39591. Subject: Re: Prosba do Admina
  39592. MIME-Version: 1.0
  39593. Content-Type: text/plain
  39594.  
  39595. Dnia 28-Mar-98, Adam Tynenski napisal(a):
  39596. >I'M AN IDIOT BECAUSE I'M USING PIRATED SOFTWARE!
  39597.  
  39598. Najpierw podklady z www Plukwy, teraz Yam2.0 beta, co bedzie nastepne?
  39599.  
  39600. -- 
  39601. MaQ                                   mail: maq@opnt.optimus.wroc.pl
  39602.  
  39603. From owner-amigapl  Sat Mar 28 21:39:54 1998
  39604. Received: from student.uci.agh.edu.pl (ramix@student.uci.agh.edu.pl [149.156.98.60]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA27658 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 21:12:20 +0100 (MET)
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  39607. Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 21:11:39 +0100 (MET)
  39608. From: Grzegorz Junka <ramix@student.uci.agh.edu.pl>
  39609. X-Sender: ramix@student
  39610. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  39611. Subject: Re: Potrzebne materialy o A/BOX'sie !
  39612. In-Reply-To: <7D155630B6@ii.tuniv.szczecin.pl>
  39613. Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.95.980328210533.8913A-100000@student>
  39614. MIME-Version: 1.0
  39615. Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
  39616.  
  39617. On Sat, 28 Mar 1998 lukasz_szpikowski@ii.tuniv.szczecin.pl wrote:
  39618.  
  39619. > Kolega pilnie potrzebuje materialow dotyczacych projektu Phase5.
  39620. > Wszelkiego rodzaju informacje (specyfikacje, planowane osiagi, 
  39621. > architektura). Maja one psluzyc do opracowania dla Instytu 
  39622. > Informatyki w Szczecinie. Tak wiec moze kilku blacharzom opadna 
  39623. > szczeki :). Czego sobie i wam zycze !.
  39624.  
  39625. Materialy o A/Boxie sa nieaktualne - projekt w swej obecnej formie zostal
  39626. wycofany. Obecnie tymczasowo bedzie realizowany projekt pre/box, a nowa
  39627. specyfikacja A/Boxa zostanie opracowana pozniej - przewidywana data
  39628. wypuszczenia A/Boxa to rok 2000. Stare materialy o A/Boxie sa na stronach
  39629. www.phase5.de - tak jak i materialy o pre/boxie - nowym komputerze opartym
  39630. na czterech procesorach PPC (604 - 750). Przewidywana data wypuszczenia
  39631. pre/boxa - za szesc miesiecy :))))))
  39632.  
  39633. --
  39634. ,x80Y^"    Member of Amiga Promotion Group and fanatic AMIGA user
  39635. $0+'            Grzegorz Junka "Bastian"
  39636. 08    piccolo@ibm.uci.agh.edu.pl    bastian@apg.plukwa.pdi.net
  39637. 0'
  39638. 9    A1200Inf 040/40Bliz 32Mb 1.6Gb 12x 1942S CN40BC
  39639.  
  39640. From owner-amigapl  Sat Mar 28 21:40:04 1998
  39641. Received: from student.uci.agh.edu.pl (ramix@student.uci.agh.edu.pl [149.156.98.60]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA27669 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 21:29:20 +0100 (MET)
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  39644. Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 21:28:37 +0100 (MET)
  39645. From: Grzegorz Junka <ramix@student.uci.agh.edu.pl>
  39646. X-Sender: ramix@student
  39647. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  39648. Subject: Re: Odp: Re[2]: Odp: Odp: Odp: mUSASHI and AmigaOS
  39649. In-Reply-To: <199803281633.RAA24768@arka.mtl.pl>
  39650. Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.95.980328212733.8913C-100000@student>
  39651. MIME-Version: 1.0
  39652. Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-2
  39653. Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE
  39654.  
  39655. On Fri, 27 Mar 1998, Adam Zaparcinski wrote:
  39656.  
  39657. > >I jeszcze zauwa=BF=EA, =BFe nawet gdyby ochrona pami=EAci zapobiega=B3a =
  39658. zwaleniu
  39659. > >systemu
  39660. > >przez cprppc, to sam ten task i tak prawdopodobnie by zawis=B3 ("Program
  39661. > >cprppc wykona=B3 nieprawid=B3ow=B1 operacj=EA" ;-))), i po kilku odpalen=
  39662. iach i tak
  39663. > >zabrak=B3oby Ci pami=EAci -> reboot systemu...
  39664. >=20
  39665. > Ewentualnie mo=BFna by go w niesko=F1czono=B6=E6 odpala=E6, zwisa=E6 i us=
  39666. uwa=E6 z pami=EAci.
  39667. > R=F3wnie dobrze mo=BFna odpala=E6, zwisa=E6 i resetowa=E6 ca=B3=B1 Amig=
  39668. =EA a FastBoot za=B3atwia
  39669. > nam szybki restart.
  39670.  
  39671. Nie. Bo jak usuwasz jeden program, reszta systemu - obojetnie ile
  39672. programow nie masz uruchomionych, zostaje. A przy resecie resetujesz
  39673. wszystko. To jest zasadnicza roznica, co?
  39674.  
  39675. --
  39676. ,x80Y^"=09Member of Amiga Promotion Group and fanatic AMIGA user
  39677. $0+'=09=09=09Grzegorz Junka "Bastian"
  39678. 08=09piccolo@ibm.uci.agh.edu.pl=09bastian@apg.plukwa.pdi.net
  39679. 0'
  39680. 9=09A1200Inf 040/40Bliz 32Mb 1.6Gb 12x 1942S CN40BC
  39681.  
  39682. From owner-amigapl  Sat Mar 28 22:09:54 1998
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  39686.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 21:41:25 +0100 (CET)
  39687. Date: 28 Mar 98 21:14:55 +0100
  39688. From: "Grzegorz Juraszek" <yoyo@silesia.top.pl>
  39689. Subject: Re: Dzwiek z plyty kompaktowej muzycznej
  39690. To: "AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi" <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  39691. In-Reply-To: <yam7390.2631.4483896@smtp.polbox.com>
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  39693. MIME-Version: 1.0
  39694. Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
  39695. Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit
  39696. X-Mailer: THOR 2.5 (Amiga;TCP/IP) *UNREGISTERED*
  39697.  
  39698. Hello Dariusz Gac, on 27-Mar-98    17:45:52 you wrote:
  39699. >Hello everybody!
  39700.  
  39701. Dziendobry.
  39702.  
  39703. >                    *** H_E_L_P_! ***
  39704.  
  39705. Jakie ladne...
  39706.  
  39707. >Moj problem to czytnik CD-ROM Hitachi.
  39708. >Jak puszczam sobie plyte do sluchania to DZWIEK NIE IDZIE
  39709. >PRZEZ AMIGE a tylko przez wyjscie sluchawkowe czytnika!
  39710. >Czy to jest normalne czy cos skopalem ?
  39711.  
  39712. Podlaczyles kabelek audio, czy wolisz odbierac telepatycznie?
  39713.  
  39714. >Amiga 3.0,
  39715.  
  39716. Pierwszy raz slysze o takim modelu.
  39717.  
  39718. --
  39719.    Grzegorz Juraszek * Yoyo^Twilight * Amiga user * AIRI & ATO PL member
  39720.        mailto:yoyo@silesia.top.pl * http://www.silesia.top.pl/~yoyo
  39721. --
  39722.              "Let the truth be known though the heavens fall"
  39723.                     Agent Mulder * The X-Files * Redux
  39724.  
  39725. From owner-amigapl  Sat Mar 28 22:10:05 1998
  39726. Received: from silter.silesia.top.pl (silter.silesia.top.pl [195.117.67.3]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA27712 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 21:43:00 +0100 (MET)
  39727. Received: from ppp-wct36.katowice.tpnet.pl (yoyo@ppp-wct36.katowice.tpnet.pl [194.204.181.36])
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  39729.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 21:41:31 +0100 (CET)
  39730. Date: 28 Mar 98 21:27:56 +0100
  39731. From: "Grzegorz Juraszek" <yoyo@silesia.top.pl>
  39732. Subject: Re: Re[2]: Odp: 14" vs 15"
  39733. To: "AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi" <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  39734. In-Reply-To: <yam7391.879.1745898584@kki.net.pl>
  39735. Message-ID: <415.391T2844T12873480@silesia.top.pl>
  39736. MIME-Version: 1.0
  39737. Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  39738. Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
  39739. X-Mailer: THOR 2.5 (Amiga;TCP/IP) *UNREGISTERED*
  39740.  
  39741. Hello Stefan Koralewski, on 28-Mar-98    10:06:18 you wrote:
  39742. >I'M AN IDIOT BECAUSE I'M USING PIRATED SOFTWARE!
  39743.  
  39744. Kolega ma chyba nisk± samoocenê.
  39745.  
  39746. :-)
  39747.  
  39748. --
  39749.    Grzegorz Juraszek * Yoyo^Twilight * Amiga user * AIRI & ATO PL member
  39750.        mailto:yoyo@silesia.top.pl * http://www.silesia.top.pl/~yoyo
  39751. --
  39752.              "Let the truth be known though the heavens fall"
  39753.                     Agent Mulder * The X-Files * Redux
  39754.  
  39755. From owner-amigapl  Sat Mar 28 22:10:15 1998
  39756. Received: from silter.silesia.top.pl (silter.silesia.top.pl [195.117.67.3]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA27710 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 21:42:59 +0100 (MET)
  39757. Received: from ppp-wct36.katowice.tpnet.pl (yoyo@ppp-wct36.katowice.tpnet.pl [194.204.181.36])
  39758.     by silter.silesia.top.pl (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA09905
  39759.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 21:41:28 +0100 (CET)
  39760. Date: 28 Mar 98 21:26:08 +0100
  39761. From: "Grzegorz Juraszek" <yoyo@silesia.top.pl>
  39762. Subject: Re: Paula vs SoundBlaster
  39763. To: "AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi" <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  39764. In-Reply-To: <yam7390.2147.139262880@fiber.net.pl>
  39765. Message-ID: <935.391T448T12861116@silesia.top.pl>
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  39769. X-Mailer: THOR 2.5 (Amiga;TCP/IP) *UNREGISTERED*
  39770.  
  39771. Hello Miloslaw Smyk, on 27-Mar-98    20:33:42 you wrote:
  39772. >Dnia 27-Mar-98, Grzegorz Juraszek rzek³ co nastêpuje:
  39773.  
  39774. >> Zgadzam sie. Roznica miedzy 14bit Pauli przez AHI po dobrej kalibracji
  39775. >> i 16bit Delfiny jest zauwazalna tylko dla osob ze sluchem muzycznym.
  39776.  
  39777. >A raczej dla tych, które regularnie myj± uszy. ;) Jak dot±d nikt kto mia³ u
  39778. >mnie sposobno¶æ us³yszeæ dzwiêk z obu urz±dzeñ nie zastanawia³ siê nad tym
  39779. >które jest które.
  39780.  
  39781. Widocznie obracasz siê w¶ród wirtuozów :) Znam pare osób, które do dzisiaj
  39782. uwa¿aj±, ¿e kupi³em kartê muzyczn± tylko i wy³±cznie dlatego, ¿e mia³em
  39783. akurat za du¿o pieniêdzy :-)
  39784.  
  39785. [...]
  39786.  
  39787. >Czuwaj,
  39788.  
  39789. Z zuchów to mnie wyrzucili za dywersjê :-)
  39790.  
  39791. --
  39792.    Grzegorz Juraszek * Yoyo^Twilight * Amiga user * AIRI & ATO PL member
  39793.        mailto:yoyo@silesia.top.pl * http://www.silesia.top.pl/~yoyo
  39794. --
  39795.              "Let the truth be known though the heavens fall"
  39796.                     Agent Mulder * The X-Files * Redux
  39797.  
  39798. From owner-amigapl  Sat Mar 28 22:39:54 1998
  39799. Received: from piast.pertus.com.pl (root@piast.pertus.com.pl [195.116.191.6]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA27792 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 22:31:30 +0100 (MET)
  39800. Received: from pertus.com.pl (JakeC@ppp198.legnica.tpnet.pl [195.116.255.198])
  39801.     by piast.pertus.com.pl (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id WAA24951
  39802.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 22:34:50 +0100
  39803. From: Waldek "Jakec" Bulkowski <jakec@pertus.com.pl>
  39804. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  39805. Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 22:27:19 +0000
  39806. Message-ID: <yam7391.963.1747403528@mail.pertus.com.pl>
  39807. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  39808. Subject: Konkurs XL'a
  39809. MIME-Version: 1.0
  39810. Content-Type: text/plain
  39811.  
  39812. Hi.
  39813.  
  39814. Troche nie na temat, ale jest szansa na pokazanie ludziom, ze
  39815. komputer to nie tylko pEcE.
  39816. W ostatnim XL'u (kwietniowy) jest ogloszony konkurs na remiks
  39817. kawalka Agressivy 69 "Point Of View". Do gazety dolaczona jest
  39818. plytk ze sciezkami perkusji, vokalu, itp. Oto cytat z gazety:
  39819. "Wprowadz sample w czeluscie swojego PC-ta i nagraj wlasny remiks
  39820. utworu...". Moze jakis muzyk pokaze, ze Amiga tez sie nadaje do
  39821. takiej roboty? Do dziela!!!
  39822.  
  39823. 3mcie sie.
  39824.  
  39825. Ps. Mam nadzieje, ze przeczyta to jakis muzyk z karta dzwiekowa
  39826. na pokladzie :)
  39827.  
  39828. -- 
  39829. Waldek /"Jakec"/ Bulkowski
  39830.     A1200 i dodatki
  39831.       *Nipson HQ*
  39832.   jakec@pertus.com.pl
  39833. ***
  39834. Life is brutal & pelne pecetow :-(((
  39835. ***
  39836.  
  39837.  
  39838. From owner-amigapl  Sat Mar 28 22:40:14 1998
  39839. Received: from grendel.sylaba.poznan.pl (root@sylaba-gw.man.poznan.pl [150.254.163.201]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA27794 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 22:32:25 +0100 (MET)
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  39842.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 22:30:34 +0100 (CET)
  39843. From: Bartlomiej Dubik <baxter@sylaba.poznan.pl>
  39844. Reply-To: baxter@sylaba.poznan.pl
  39845. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  39846. Date: Thu, 12 Jan 1978 03:11:46 +0100
  39847. Message-ID: <yam11.2301.1748003864@grendel.sylaba.poznan.pl>
  39848. In-Reply-To: <yam7390.1074.141179496@www.szczecin.tpnet.pl>
  39849. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  39850. Subject: Re: Joke of the week... (fwd)
  39851. MIME-Version: 1.0
  39852. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
  39853. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  39854.  
  39855. Dnia 27-Mar-98, Marcin Orlowski napisa=EE:
  39856. im using Win95, 32mb ram with a pentium166 MMX,
  39857. >why can't i run the program?
  39858. >it says it needs more conventional memory?
  39859. >But i have nothing running except for my isp and browser.
  39860.  
  39861. No i co mu zrobisz, jak chlopina nawet nie przypuszczal ze =
  39862.  
  39863. sa komputry inne niz blacha.??
  39864. -- =
  39865.  
  39866. Bartlomiej Dubik
  39867. baxter@sylaba.poznan.pl
  39868. E/BOX/1200/030/50MHz/16MB/1.2GB/0.2GB/CDx4......itd
  39869. MOTOROLA ON BOARD !!!!!!!
  39870.  
  39871. From owner-amigapl  Sun Mar 29 00:39:55 1998
  39872. Received: from friko.onet.pl (friko.onet.pl [194.204.191.9]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA27992 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 00:25:10 +0100 (MET)
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  39875.       id AAA27064 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 00:16:38 +0100
  39876. From: RHS Linux User <malafifi@friko.onet.pl>
  39877. Reply-To: RHS Linux User <malafifi@friko.onet.pl>
  39878. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  39879. Date: Sun, 29 Mar 1998 00:17:09 +0100
  39880. Message-ID: <yam7392.471.2016065312@priv.onet.pl>
  39881. In-Reply-To: <yam7390.1058.146992200@fiber.net.pl>
  39882. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  39883. Organization: SIEDZIBA =?iso-8859-2?Q?DIAB=A3A?=
  39884. Subject: Re: Jak wymusic deklaracje zmiennych w CHIP RAM
  39885. MIME-Version: 1.0
  39886. X-ISO-CONVERTED: Yam_ISO2 1.03 (15.10.97) (c) Silver Dream !
  39887. X-YAMISO-UPDATE: ftp://wfmh.man.szczecin.pl/pub/yam_iso2/
  39888. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  39889. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  39890.  
  39891. 27-Mar-98, Miloslaw Smyk wysma=BFy=B3(a)
  39892. >Dnia 27-Mar-98, LeMUr of blabla (Lukasz Prokulski) rzek=B3 co nast=E6puj=
  39893. e:
  39894. >> On Fri, 27 Mar 1998, Wojciech Kocjan wrote:
  39895. >>> Ja te=BF mam taki problem, te=BF zwi=B1zany z alokacj=B1 pami=E6ci do=
  39896.  grafiki -
  39897. >>> potrzebuj=E6 mie=E6 bitplany po sobie (jako jeden blok pami=E6ci). Te=
  39898. go chyba
  39899. >>> AllocBitMap() nie zrobi.
  39900. >> =
  39901.  
  39902. >>     Sprobuj zajac normalnie pamiec (odpowiednia wielkosc
  39903. >> potrzebna na WSZYSTKIE bitplane'y, dla pewnosci  moze i ciut wiecej
  39904. >> ;) przez AllocMem(), a potem w stworzonej strukturze BitMap na "chamca=
  39905. "
  39906. >           ^^^^^^^^^^
  39907.  
  39908. >A z jak=B1 flag=B1 =F3w AllocMem()? Z MEMF_CHIP mo=BFe? :)
  39909.  
  39910. >> wpisz adresy kolejnych bitplane'ow - zerowy, to poczatek przydzieloneg=
  39911. o
  39912. >> bloku pamieci, 1szy to ten poczatek+wielkosc jednego bitplane'u; n-ty:=
  39913.  
  39914. >> poczatek+(n-1)*wielkosc jednego plane'u. Powinno sie udac, a nie jest =
  39915. to
  39916. >> zapewne (99.9% pewnosci) niezgodne z wytycznymi.
  39917.  
  39918. >Lepiej nie.
  39919.  
  39920.  
  39921. >Rozwi=B1zywanie problemu najlepiej rozpocz=B1=E6 od zastanowienia si=E6,=
  39922.  czy
  39923. >naprawd=E6 potrzebujesz korzysta=E6 z oddzielnych bitplan=F3w. Karty gra=
  39924. ficzne
  39925. >generalnie operuj=B1 na grafice chunky, wi=E6c w kt=F3rym=B6 miejscu b=E6=
  39926. dzie musia=B3a
  39927. >odby=E6 si=E6 konwersja p2c - innymi s=B3owy, co=B6 nie b=E6dzie tak szy=
  39928. bkie jak by
  39929. >mog=B3o by=E6.
  39930.  
  39931. >Nast=E6pnie, dlaczego koniecznie jako jeden blok pami=E6ci? Co=B6 to dzi=
  39932. wnie
  39933. >pachnie... Wojtek, napisz co dok=B3adnie chcesz robi=E6, wtedy co=B6 si=E6=
  39934.  
  39935. >zaradzi...
  39936.  
  39937. Heh.Niech zgadne.Pewnie jaka=B6 genitalna C2P pod system?Zreszt=B1 niewa=BF=
  39938. ne.
  39939. Oto kawa=B3ek sourca kt=F3ry robi sobie bitplany jeden za drugim.
  39940.  
  39941.   if (video_is_native_mode) {
  39942.     for (i =3D 0; i < 2; i++) {
  39943.       if ((video_raster[i] =3D (PLANEPTR)AllocRaster (SCREENWIDTH,
  39944.                                            video_depth * SCREENHEIGHT)) =3D=
  39945. =3D
  39946. NULL)
  39947.         I_Error ("AllocRaster() failed");
  39948.       memset (video_raster[i], 0, video_depth * RASSIZE (SCREENWIDTH,
  39949. SCREENHEIGHT));
  39950.       InitBitMap (&video_bitmap[i], video_depth, SCREENWIDTH, SCREENHEIGH=
  39951. T);
  39952.       for (depth =3D 0; depth < video_depth; depth++)
  39953.         video_bitmap[i].Planes[depth] =3D video_raster[i] +
  39954.                                     depth * RASSIZE (SCREENWIDTH,
  39955. SCREENHEIGHT);
  39956.     }
  39957.  if ((video_screen =3D OpenScreenTags (NULL,
  39958.           SA_Type,        CUSTOMSCREEN | CUSTOMBITMAP,
  39959.           SA_DisplayID,   mode,
  39960.           SA_DClip,       (ULONG)&rect,
  39961.           SA_Width,       SCREENWIDTH,
  39962.           SA_Height,      SCREENHEIGHT,
  39963.           SA_Depth,       video_depth,
  39964.           /* SA_Draggable,FALSE, */
  39965.           /* SA_AutoScroll,FALSE, */
  39966.           /* SA_Exclusive,TRUE, */
  39967.           SA_Quiet,       TRUE,
  39968.           SA_BitMap,      &video_bitmap[0], /* custom bitmap, contiguous
  39969. planes */
  39970.           TAG_DONE)) =3D=3D NULL)
  39971.  
  39972. -- =
  39973.  
  39974.               ---------------------------------------------------
  39975.               |     RHS Linux User znany jako Andrzej P=EAczak    |
  39976.               | A1k2 z dodatkami E-mial: malafifi@friko.onet.pl |
  39977.               ---------------------------------------------------
  39978.  
  39979. From owner-amigapl  Sun Mar 29 03:09:55 1998
  39980. Received: from panda.bg.univ.gda.pl (daemon@panda.bg.univ.gda.pl [153.19.120.249]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA00239 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 02:55:38 +0200 (MET DST)
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  39983. Date: 28 Mar 98 02:51:21 +0100
  39984. From: "Maciej Gajewski" <maciejg@panda.bg.univ.gda.pl>
  39985. Subject: Re: 
  39986. To: "AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi" <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  39987. In-Reply-To: <yam10.2447.1747857984@grendel.sylaba.poznan.pl>
  39988. Message-Id: <313.391T1063T1711291@panda.bg.univ.gda.pl>
  39989. Mime-Version: 1.0
  39990. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  39991. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
  39992. X-Mailer: THOR 2.5a (Amiga;TCP/IP) *UNREGISTERED*
  39993.  
  39994. Dnia 11-Sty-78    01:15:48, Bartlomiej Dubik napisa³:
  39995.  
  39996. >Mam problem z Voyagerem nie moge wysylac listow bo wywala mie 
  39997. >komunikat nastepujacy:
  39998. >Undefinierte stub routine called, jak to ugryzc
  39999.  
  40000. Ano tak, ¿e masz jak±¶ star± betê - najnowsza wersja:
  40001. amiga.com.pl/vapor/voyager/
  40002.  
  40003. --
  40004.  
  40005. Maciej Gajewski     Team *AMIGA*
  40006.  
  40007. From owner-amigapl  Sun Mar 29 08:09:59 1998
  40008. Received: from jantar.ias.wat.waw.pl (jantar.ias.wat.waw.pl [193.59.147.36]) by amiga.com.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA00439 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 07:54:54 +0200 (MET DST)
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  40010.           jantar.ias.wat.waw.pl (MX V4.2 VAX) with SMTP; Sun, 29 Mar 1998
  40011.           06:53:24 MET
  40012. From: Krzysztof Rudnik <rudnik@jantar.ias.wat.waw.pl>
  40013. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  40014. Date: Sun, 29 Mar 1998 06:48:26 +0100
  40015. Message-ID: <yam7392.1316.2016145456@jantar.ias.wat.waw.pl>
  40016. In-Reply-To: <199803281634.RAA24775@arka.mtl.pl>
  40017. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  40018. Organization: IAS WAT
  40019. Subject: Re: Odp: Ochrona =?iso-8859-1?Q?pami=EAci?=
  40020. MIME-Version: 1.0
  40021. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
  40022. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  40023.  
  40024. Dnia 27-Mar-98, Adam Zaparcinski napisal:
  40025.  
  40026. >Tu przyszed=B3 mi do g=B3owy taki pomys=B3 (tylko nie bluzgajcie mnie za=
  40027.  =
  40028.  
  40029. >herezje)
  40030. >czy nie da=B3oby si=EA tego jako=B6 zapatchowa=E6. Przyk=B3adowo chcemy =
  40031. wys=B3a=E6
  40032. >wiadomo=B6=E6. Wysy=B3amy j=B1 zwyczajnie a =B3atka za=B3o=BFona na Send=
  40033. Msg() najpierw
  40034. >kopiuje j=B1 (w ramach tasku wysy=B3aj=B1cego) do wsp=F3lnej pami=EAci a=
  40035.  potem =
  40036.  
  40037. >wywo=B3uje
  40038. >senda ju=BF ze wska=BFnikiem na odpowiedni=B1 wiadomo=B6=E6 w pami=EAci =
  40039. wsp=F3lnej. Co =
  40040.  
  40041. >wy na
  40042. >to. Oczywi=B6cie wiem, =BFe to spowolni=B3oby system ale nie ma r=F3=BFy=
  40043.  bez =
  40044.  
  40045. >kolc=F3w,
  40046. >zreszt=B1 z ochron=B1 pami=EAci i tak podczas przesy=B3aania wiadomo=B6c=
  40047. i trzeba =
  40048.  
  40049. >je
  40050. >kopiowa=E6.
  40051.  
  40052. Problem pozostaje, co bedzie jak w samej wiadomosci beda pointery.
  40053. W chyba czesto sa. System niestety nie ma metody na poznanie zawartosci
  40054. komunikatu.
  40055.  
  40056.  
  40057. -- =
  40058.  
  40059. Krzysztof Rudnik     mail,finger: rudnik@jantar.ias.wat.waw.pl
  40060.                      www:   http://www.ias.wat.waw.pl/~rudnik/
  40061.     A1230T 882/50MHz 16MB, CD-ROM, HDD 1GB =
  40062.  
  40063.  
  40064.  
  40065. From owner-amigapl  Sun Mar 29 22:10:41 1998
  40066. Received: from server.fiber.net.pl (server.fiber.net.pl [195.117.208.101]) by amiga.com.pl (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA00412 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 21:48:01 +0200 (CEST)
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  40074. Message-Id: <199803291126.NAA09199@merkury.piotrkow.tpsa.pl>
  40075. From: "Arkadiusz Winiarek" <sharky@pertus.com.pl>
  40076. To: <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  40077. Subject: Odp.: Amigowy Wroclaw
  40078. Date: Sun, 29 Mar 1998 13:11:41 +0200
  40079. X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
  40080. X-Priority: 3
  40081. X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1157
  40082. MIME-Version: 1.0
  40083. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2
  40084. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  40085.  
  40086. Hej!
  40087.  
  40088. Widac, ze wszyscy chca sie spotkac we Wrocku ...
  40089. A moze by tak daty i godziny ...
  40090. Slijcie propozycje ...
  40091.  
  40092. Siemka!
  40093.  
  40094.          "Sharky" Arkadiusz Winiarek
  40095.                  Happy Amiga User!
  40096. A-1200T/2.1GB/1260/50/32MB Fast RAM
  40097.                  Jawor woj. legnickie
  40098. From owner-amigapl  Sun Mar 29 22:10:50 1998
  40099. Received: from server.fiber.net.pl (server.fiber.net.pl [195.117.208.101]) by amiga.com.pl (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA00413 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 21:48:01 +0200 (CEST)
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  40107. Message-Id: <199803291126.NAA09213@merkury.piotrkow.tpsa.pl>
  40108. From: "Arkadiusz Winiarek" <sharky@pertus.com.pl>
  40109. To: <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  40110. Subject: Odp.: Amigowy Wroclaw
  40111. Date: Sun, 29 Mar 1998 13:11:41 +0200
  40112. X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
  40113. X-Priority: 3
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  40118.  
  40119. Hej!
  40120.  
  40121. Widac, ze wszyscy chca sie spotkac we Wrocku ...
  40122. A moze by tak daty i godziny ...
  40123. Slijcie propozycje ...
  40124.  
  40125. Siemka!
  40126.  
  40127.          "Sharky" Arkadiusz Winiarek
  40128.                  Happy Amiga User!
  40129. A-1200T/2.1GB/1260/50/32MB Fast RAM
  40130.                  Jawor woj. legnickie
  40131. From owner-amigapl  Sun Mar 29 22:11:15 1998
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  40139. Date: 29 Mar 98 12:04:22 +0100
  40140. From: "Marek Jablonski" <mjab69@uznam.top.pl>
  40141. Subject: Re: animacje
  40142. To: "AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi" <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  40143. In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.3.95.980328160959.29383B-100000@student>
  40144. Message-ID: <329.392T1141T7243095@uznam.top.pl>
  40145. MIME-Version: 1.0
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  40150.  
  40151. 28-Mar-98 16:11:58. Grzegorz Junka --> amigapl:
  40152.  
  40153. >> >Czy moglby mi ktos polecic jakies playery najzwyklejszych animacji if=
  40154. f
  40155. >> >ktore moglyby odtwarzac animacje z dysku, poza VT?
  40156. >>=20
  40157. >> BigAnim40.lha (gfx/show).
  40158.  
  40159. > Sa jeszcze jakies mozliwosci?
  40160.  
  40161. CyberAnim13.lha (gfx/show). Wbrew pozorom dzia=B3a tak=BFe na 'go=B3ej' A=
  40162. midze.
  40163.  
  40164.  
  40165.  MJ
  40166. --
  40167.  
  40168. From owner-amigapl  Sun Mar 29 22:11:23 1998
  40169. Received: from server.fiber.net.pl (server.fiber.net.pl [195.117.208.101]) by amiga.com.pl (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA00426 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 21:48:13 +0200 (CEST)
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  40172.           for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 19:05:25 +0100
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  40175.           Sun, 29 Mar 1998 20:07:31 +0200
  40176. From: Piotr Czerniawski <piotrcz@BOX43.GNET.PL>
  40177. To: Amiga <amiga@PLEARN.EDU.PL>
  40178. CC: AmigaPL <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  40179. Date: Sun, 29 Mar 1998 19:03:17 +0100
  40180. Message-ID: <yam7392.896.2015759912@inet.com.pl>
  40181. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  40182. Subject: 4xIDE podsumowanie
  40183. MIME-Version: 1.0
  40184. X-ISO-CONVERTED: Yam_ISO2 1.06 (17.11.97) (c) Silver Dream !
  40185. X-YAMISO-UPDATE: ftp://wfmh.org.pl/pub/yam_iso2/
  40186. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  40187. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  40188.  
  40189. Witam
  40190.  
  40191. Dzi=EAkuj=EA wszystkim za przys=B3ane rady. Spos=F3b z dwoma HD na jednej=
  40192.  ta=B6mie, CD
  40193. na drugiej i bez IDEFix'a dzia=B3a, ale jedynie gdy nie korzystam z MUI. =
  40194. Przy
  40195. u=BFyciu MUI po chwili nast=EApowa=B3 reset. Musia=B3em powr=F3ci=E6 do I=
  40196. DEFix'a. Obecnie
  40197. mam 2xHD na jednej, 1xCD na drugiej ta=B6mie oraz IDEFix w s-s.
  40198.  
  40199. Dzi=EAki, Piotrek.
  40200.  
  40201. PS. Dzia=B3a to z AFS (kto=B6 o to pyta=B3).
  40202.  
  40203. From owner-amigapl  Sun Mar 29 22:11:31 1998
  40204. Received: from server.fiber.net.pl (server.fiber.net.pl [195.117.208.101]) by amiga.com.pl (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA00417 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 21:48:05 +0200 (CEST)
  40205. Received: from opnt.optimus.wroc.pl ([195.117.195.3])
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  40210.  (EMWAC SMTPRS 0.83) with SMTP id <B0000083900@opnt.optimus.wroc.pl>;
  40211.  Sun, 29 Mar 1998 14:45:28 +0200
  40212. From: Maciej Matyka <maq@opnt.optimus.wroc.pl>
  40213. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  40214. Date: Sun, 29 Mar 1998 13:43:49 +0100
  40215. Message-ID: <yam7392.2476.2016733120@opnt.optimus.wroc.pl>
  40216. In-Reply-To: <199803281634.RAA24781@arka.mtl.pl>
  40217. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  40218. Subject: Re: Amigowy =?iso-8859-1?Q?Wroc=B3aw?= [bylo: Amigowy Poznan]
  40219. MIME-Version: 1.0
  40220. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
  40221. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  40222.  
  40223. Dnia 28-Mar-98, Adam Zaparcinski napisal(a):
  40224. >A mo=BFe Wroc=B3awscy Amigowcy te=BF zechcieli by si=EA od czasu do czas=
  40225. u spotyka=E6?
  40226. >Podobno we Wrocku jest nas troch=EA. Warto by si=EA spotka=E6 zw=B3aszcz=
  40227. a, =BFe zbli=BFa
  40228. >si=EA wa=BFna dla Amigowc=F3w data.
  40229.  
  40230. Noo... ja nie mam nic przeciwko. A btw. moze znow bysmy pogadali o tym pa=
  40231. rty
  40232. we Wrocq?
  40233.  
  40234. -- =
  40235.  
  40236. MaQ                                   mail: maq@opnt.optimus.wroc.pl
  40237.  
  40238. From owner-amigapl  Sun Mar 29 22:11:44 1998
  40239. Received: from student.uci.agh.edu.pl (ramix@student.uci.agh.edu.pl [149.156.98.60]) by amiga.com.pl (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA00616 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 22:06:03 +0200 (CEST)
  40240. Received: from localhost (ramix@localhost) by student.uci.agh.edu.pl (8.8.6/8.8.5/ts-tmpl.970124) with SMTP
  40241.        id WAA00529; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 22:05:56 +0200 (MET DST)
  40242. Date: Sun, 29 Mar 1998 22:05:56 +0200 (MET DST)
  40243. From: Grzegorz Junka <ramix@student.uci.agh.edu.pl>
  40244. X-Sender: ramix@student
  40245. To: Lista dyskusyjna uzytkownikow komputera AMIGA AMIGAPL <AMIGA@PLEARN.EDU.PL>
  40246. cc: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  40247. Subject: overscan
  40248. Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.95.980329220034.386A-100000@student>
  40249. MIME-Version: 1.0
  40250. Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
  40251.  
  40252.  
  40253. Uzywam MCP do promowania ekranu PAL LowRes 320x256 do Multiscan LowRes
  40254. DblScan 320x240 i ustawiam jednoczesnie tag wysokosci na 256. Wszystko sie
  40255. zgadza i chodzi, tylko ze... ekran widoczny jest 320x240, a linie 241-256
  40256. sa schowane za dolna czarna ramka. Nie byloby w tym nic zlego, gdyby nie
  40257. to, ze po przesunieciu tam myszki chowa sie ona za czarna linie, i nawet
  40258. przy wlaczonym autoscroll ekran nie 'wyjezdza' do gory. Probowalem rozne
  40259. konfiguracje, zmienialem overscan i ani nie mozna zrobic tej czesci
  40260. widocznej (np. w overscanie) ani nie mozna jej portraktowac jako virtual i
  40261. przesuwac myszka przy zjezdzaniu nia w dol. Czy ktos wie, co z tym zrobic?
  40262.  
  40263. --
  40264. ,x80Y^"    Member of Amiga Promotion Group and fanatic AMIGA user
  40265. $0+'            Grzegorz Junka "Bastian"
  40266. 08    piccolo@ibm.uci.agh.edu.pl    bastian@apg.plukwa.pdi.net
  40267. 0'
  40268. 9    A1200Inf 040/40Bliz 32Mb 1.6Gb 12x 1942S CN40BC
  40269.  
  40270. From owner-amigapl  Sun Mar 29 22:11:52 1998
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  40274.           for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 10:33:08 +0100
  40275. Received: from mk (ppp-wct17.katowice.tpnet.pl [194.204.181.17])
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  40277.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 11:28:04 +0200 (MET DST)
  40278. From: "Wojciech Kocjan" <kocjan@ka.onet.pl>
  40279. To: "AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi" <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  40280. Subject: Re[3]: Jak wymusic deklaracje zmiennych w CHIP RAM
  40281. Date: Sun, 29 Mar 1998 10:57:32 +0200
  40282. Message-ID: <01bd5af0$b5a0b120$fdfefe01@mk>
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  40292.  
  40293. You wrote:
  40294.  
  40295. > Sprobuj zajac normalnie pamiec (odpowiednia wielkosc
  40296. >potrzebna na WSZYSTKIE bitplane'y, dla pewnosci  moze i ciut wiecej
  40297. >[ciach]
  40298. >poczatek+(n-1)*wielkosc jednego plane'u. Powinno sie udac, a nie jest to
  40299. >zapewne (99.9% pewnosci) niezgodne z wytycznymi.
  40300.  
  40301.  
  40302. Wiem, =BFe nie jest zgodne z wytycznymi. Dlatego nie podoba mi si=EA ta
  40303. koncepcja. Jednak=BFe skoro ju=BF tak robi=EA, to trudno. Tylko sie zasta=
  40304. nawia=B3em
  40305. czy da si=EA sprawdzi=E6, czy bitmapy mog=B1 by=E6 zalokowane w fa=B6cie =
  40306. - wiem, =BFe
  40307. mo=BFna np. z cybergraphics.library.
  40308.  
  40309.  
  40310.  
  40311.  
  40312. From owner-amigapl  Sun Mar 29 22:12:00 1998
  40313. Received: from server.fiber.net.pl (server.fiber.net.pl [195.117.208.101]) by amiga.com.pl (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA00420 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 21:48:08 +0200 (CEST)
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  40320. From: Artur Gadawski <spidi@BOX43.GNET.PL>
  40321. Reply-To: spidi@BOX43.GNET.PL
  40322. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  40323. Date: Sun, 29 Mar 1998 16:30:41 +0100
  40324. Message-ID: <yam7392.2089.5639040@friko2.onet.pl>
  40325. In-Reply-To: <199803281634.RAA24781@arka.mtl.pl>
  40326. X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview3 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
  40327. Subject: Re: Amigowy =?iso-8859-1?Q?Wroc=B3aw?= [bylo: Amigowy Poznan]
  40328. MIME-Version: 1.0
  40329. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
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  40331.  
  40332. Dnia 28-Marz-98, Adam Zaparcinski napisa=B3:
  40333.  
  40334. > A mo=BFe Wroc=B3awscy Amigowcy te=BF zechcieli by si=EA od czasu do cza=
  40335. su spotyka=E6?
  40336. > Podobno we Wrocku jest nas troch=EA. Warto by si=EA spotka=E6 zw=B3aszc=
  40337. za, =BFe zbli=BFa
  40338. > si=EA wa=BFna dla Amigowc=F3w data.
  40339.  
  40340. Nie widz=EA przeszk=F3d aby co=B6 takiego zorganizowa=E6. Wybra=E6 miejsc=
  40341. e,
  40342. jaki=B6 termin.
  40343. Ja jestem za, a co na to inni wroc=B3awscy amigowcy ?
  40344.  
  40345. Pozdrawiam
  40346. Spidi
  40347. -- =
  40348.  
  40349.  Artur *'Spidi'* Gadawski     *AMIGA* Fan
  40350.  mailto: spidi@box43.gnet.pl  spidi@friko2.onet.pl
  40351.  A1230T/40 600MB 10MB ZII CDx4 BEST 33k6 HP_DJ400L
  40352.  
  40353. From owner-amigapl  Sun Mar 29 22:12:28 1998
  40354. Received: from server.fiber.net.pl (server.fiber.net.pl [195.117.208.101]) by amiga.com.pl (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA00407 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 21:47:56 +0200 (CEST)
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  40361. Date: Sun, 29 Mar 1998 12:42:33 +0200 (MET DST)
  40362. From: Grzegorz Junka <ramix@student.uci.agh.edu.pl>
  40363. X-Sender: ramix@student
  40364. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  40365. cc: Lista dyskusyjna uzytkownikow komputera AMIGA AMIGAPL <AMIGA@PLEARN.EDU.PL>
  40366. Subject: mui
  40367. Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.95.980329123641.9589A-100000@student>
  40368. MIME-Version: 1.0
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  40370.  
  40371.  
  40372. To jest bardzo trudne pytanie. Niektory programy korzystajace z MUI
  40373. zawieszaja sie w pewien specyficzny sposob - po jakims czasie korzystania
  40374. z nich obiekty MUI (slidery, gadgety) przestaja reagowac na myszke, a sama
  40375. myszka zaczyna lekko skakac. TopCPU pokazuje jednoczesnie duze zajecie
  40376. procesora programem, ktory sie tak zwiesil. Najczesciej w ten sposob
  40377. zawiesza sie Scout, chociaz zdarzalo mi sie to i z innymi. Myslalem, ze to
  40378. wina MUI, ale obojetnie, czy MUI jest oryginalne, pirackie czy shareware,
  40379. korzysc jest tylko taka, ze przy niepirackim scout troszke dluzej
  40380. pracowal, zanim sie zwiesil. Jesli nie jest to wina MUI, to czy w takim
  40381. razie jest to jakis blad programow korzystajacych z MUI, i tym samym jakis
  40382. popularny blad programistow piszacych w MUI?
  40383.  
  40384. --
  40385. ,x80Y^"    Member of Amiga Promotion Group and fanatic AMIGA user
  40386. $0+'            Grzegorz Junka "Bastian"
  40387. 08    piccolo@ibm.uci.agh.edu.pl    bastian@apg.plukwa.pdi.net
  40388. 0'
  40389. 9    A1200Inf 040/40Bliz 32Mb 1.6Gb 12x 1942S CN40BC
  40390.  
  40391. From owner-amigapl  Sun Mar 29 22:12:37 1998
  40392. Received: from server.fiber.net.pl (server.fiber.net.pl [195.117.208.101]) by amiga.com.pl (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA00409 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 21:47:58 +0200 (CEST)
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  40402.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 11:59:57 GMT
  40403. From: Artur Muszynski <amst@union.org.pl>
  40404. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  40405. Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 17:26:14 +0100
  40406. Message-ID: <yam7391.746.121754912@mail.union.org.pl>
  40407. In-Reply-To: <7D155630B6@ii.tuniv.szczecin.pl>
  40408. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  40409. Organization: Union
  40410. Subject: Re: Potrzebne materialy o A/BOX'sie !
  40411. MIME-Version: 1.0
  40412. X-ISO-CONVERTED: Yam_ISO2 1.05 (02.11.97) (c) Silver Dream !
  40413. X-YAMISO-UPDATE: ftp://wfmh.man.szczecin.pl/pub/yam_iso2/
  40414. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  40415. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  40416.  
  40417. On 28-Mar-98, lukasz_szpikowski@ii.tuniv.szczecin.pl wrote:
  40418. > Kolega pilnie potrzebuje materialow dotyczacych projektu Phase5.
  40419. > Wszelkiego rodzaju informacje (specyfikacje, planowane osiagi, =
  40420.  
  40421. > architektura). Maja one psluzyc do opracowania dla Instytu =
  40422.  
  40423. > Informatyki w Szczecinie. Tak wiec moze kilku blacharzom opadna =
  40424.  
  40425. > szczeki :). Czego sobie i wam zycze !.
  40426.  
  40427. Wydaje mi si=EA, =BFe jedyne info znajdziesz na stronach fazy5. Nie s=B1 =
  40428. to jednak
  40429. informacje zbyt precyzyjne, poniewa=BF z r=F3=BFnych wzgl=EAd=F3w (zakup =
  40430. licencji na
  40431. rom, szybki post=EAp na rynku grafiki, plamy na s=B3o=F1cu) koncepcja abo=
  40432. xa ma by=E6
  40433. mocno zmieniona.
  40434.  
  40435. -- =
  40436.  
  40437.  
  40438.    // Artur Muszynski (AMST/UNION) A4000/040/EGS
  40439.  \//  e-mail: amst@union.org.pl
  40440.  
  40441. From owner-amigapl  Sun Mar 29 22:13:22 1998
  40442. Received: from server.fiber.net.pl (server.fiber.net.pl [195.117.208.101]) by amiga.com.pl (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA00403 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 21:47:53 +0200 (CEST)
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  40448.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 11:28:06 +0200 (MET DST)
  40449. From: "Wojciech Kocjan" <kocjan@ka.onet.pl>
  40450. To: "AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi" <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  40451. Subject: Re: Jak wymusic deklaracje zmiennych w CHIP RAM
  40452. Date: Sun, 29 Mar 1998 11:13:05 +0200
  40453. Message-ID: <01bd5af2$e1c7e000$fdfefe01@mk>
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  40463.  
  40464. You wrote:
  40465. >>> Ja te=BF mam taki problem, te=BF zwi=B1zany z alokacj=B1 pami=EAci do=
  40466.  grafiki -
  40467. >>> potrzebuj=EA mie=E6 bitplany po sobie (jako jeden blok pami=EAci). Te=
  40468. go chyba
  40469. >>> AllocBitMap() nie zrobi.
  40470. >>
  40471. >>     Sprobuj zajac normalnie pamiec (odpowiednia wielkosc
  40472. >> potrzebna na WSZYSTKIE bitplane'y, dla pewnosci  moze i ciut wiecej
  40473. >> ;) przez AllocMem(), a potem w stworzonej strukturze BitMap na "chamca=
  40474. "
  40475. >           ^^^^^^^^^^
  40476. >
  40477. >A z jak=B1 flag=B1 =F3w AllocMem()? Z MEMF_CHIP mo=BFe? :)
  40478.  
  40479. Ja ju=BF tak allokuj=EA od dawna (tylko si=EA zastanawiam czy si=EA nie d=
  40480. a inaczej -
  40481. zgodnie z systemem).
  40482.  
  40483. >> wpisz adresy kolejnych bitplane'ow - zerowy, to poczatek przydzieloneg=
  40484. o
  40485. >> bloku pamieci, 1szy to ten poczatek+wielkosc jednego bitplane'u; n-ty:
  40486. >> poczatek+(n-1)*wielkosc jednego plane'u. Powinno sie udac, a nie jest =
  40487. to
  40488. >> zapewne (99.9% pewnosci) niezgodne z wytycznymi.
  40489. >Lepiej nie.
  40490.  
  40491. Dlaczego? Na ko=B6ciach AGA i ECS chodzi. Z ch=EAci=B1 przetestowa=B3bym =
  40492. na jakiej=B6
  40493. karcie graficznej.
  40494.  
  40495. >Rozwi=B1zywanie problemu najlepiej rozpocz=B1=E6 od zastanowienia si=EA,=
  40496.  czy
  40497. >naprawd=EA potrzebujesz korzysta=E6 z oddzielnych bitplan=F3w. Karty gra=
  40498. ficzne
  40499. >generalnie operuj=B1 na grafice chunky, wi=EAc w kt=F3rym=B6 miejscu b=EA=
  40500. dzie musia=B3a
  40501. >odby=E6 si=EA konwersja p2c - innymi s=B3owy, co=B6 nie b=EAdzie tak szy=
  40502. bkie jak by
  40503. >mog=B3o by=E6.
  40504.  
  40505. Chcia=B3bym tylko przypomnie=E6, i=BF najpopularniejsze (chyba) karty gra=
  40506. ficzne na
  40507. amig=EA CV64 i CV64/3D maj=B1 wbudowany chyba osobny chip zajmuj=B1cy si=EA=
  40508.  p2c.
  40509.  
  40510. >Nast=EApnie, dlaczego koniecznie jako jeden blok pami=EAci? Co=B6 to dzi=
  40511. wnie
  40512. >pachnie... Wojtek, napisz co dok=B3adnie chcesz robi=E6, wtedy co=B6 si=EA
  40513. >zaradzi...
  40514.  
  40515.  
  40516.  
  40517. A tak powa=BFnie to pisz=EA drobny format animacji, kt=F3ry ma chodzi=E6 =
  40518. na a1200 z
  40519. fastem. I chodzi. Jak narazie korzystam z AllocMem(), tylko te=BF mi si=EA=
  40520.  to
  40521. nie podoba. Z pocz=B1tku nawet mia=B3em w planie pracowa=E6 w trybie chun=
  40522. ky, ale
  40523. moja procka c2p pozwala=B3a na tylko 2-3 ramki na sekund=EA. Poza tym =BF=
  40524. adna
  40525. procedura c2p nie obrobi (mo=BFe si=EA myl=EA) 10 ramek na sekund=EA w
  40526. rozdzielczo=B6ci 256 na 200 na a1200 z fastem.
  40527.  
  40528. A jeden blok, bo tak musi po prostu by=E6. Takie by=B3o jedno z pierwszyc=
  40529. h
  40530. za=B3o=BFe=F1 i tak musi pozosta=E6.
  40531.  
  40532. From owner-amigapl  Sun Mar 29 23:42:38 1998
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  40536.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 23:34:57 +0200 (METDST)
  40537. Received: from union.org.pl (dial-3.medianet.pl [195.116.185.3])
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  40539.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 22:33:03 GMT
  40540. From: Artur Muszynski <amst@union.org.pl>
  40541. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  40542. Date: Sun, 29 Mar 1998 12:30:13 +0100
  40543. Message-ID: <yam7392.653.122423832@mail.union.org.pl>
  40544. In-Reply-To: <yam7392.471.2016065312@priv.onet.pl>
  40545. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  40546. Organization: Union
  40547. Subject: Re: Jak wymusic deklaracje zmiennych w CHIP RAM
  40548. MIME-Version: 1.0
  40549. X-ISO-CONVERTED: Yam_ISO2 1.05 (02.11.97) (c) Silver Dream !
  40550. X-YAMISO-UPDATE: ftp://wfmh.man.szczecin.pl/pub/yam_iso2/
  40551. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  40552. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  40553.  
  40554. On 29-Mar-98, RHS Linux User wrote:
  40555. > Heh.Niech zgadne.Pewnie jaka=B6 genitalna C2P pod system?Zreszt=B1 niew=
  40556. a=BFne.
  40557. > Oto kawa=B3ek sourca kt=F3ry robi sobie bitplany jeden za drugim.
  40558. [...] wyci=B1=B3em tego sourca
  40559.  
  40560. Tak oto powiedziane jest w autodocu:
  40561.  
  40562.    NOTES
  40563.         In order to assure proper alignment of display memory, the
  40564.         AllocBitMap() function should be used instead of AllocRaster
  40565.         when you wish to allocate display memory (rasters which are
  40566.         attached to a ViewPort or Screen).
  40567.  
  40568. Pozdrawiam,
  40569.  
  40570. -- =
  40571.  
  40572.  
  40573.    // Artur Muszynski (AMST/UNION) A4000/040/EGS
  40574.  \//  e-mail: amst@union.org.pl
  40575.  
  40576. From owner-amigapl  Mon Mar 30 00:19:23 1998
  40577. Received: from student.uci.agh.edu.pl (ramix@student.uci.agh.edu.pl [149.156.98.60]) by amiga.com.pl (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA01217 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 00:09:48 +0200 (CEST)
  40578. Received: from localhost (ramix@localhost) by student.uci.agh.edu.pl (8.8.6/8.8.5/ts-tmpl.970124) with SMTP
  40579.        id AAA04762; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 00:09:50 +0200 (MET DST)
  40580. Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 00:09:50 +0200 (MET DST)
  40581. From: Grzegorz Junka <ramix@student.uci.agh.edu.pl>
  40582. X-Sender: ramix@student
  40583. To: Lista dyskusyjna uzytkownikow komputera AMIGA AMIGAPL <AMIGA@PLEARN.EDU.PL>
  40584. cc: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  40585. Subject: seagate
  40586. Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.95.980330000820.4727A-100000@student>
  40587. MIME-Version: 1.0
  40588. Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
  40589.  
  40590.  
  40591. Czy mial ktos jakiejs niemile przejscia z Seagateami 1.1,1.3 lub 1.6GB?
  40592. Zastanawiam sie nad dyskiem ok. 1.3 Seagate lub Caviar. Poniewaz Caviara
  40593. mam, interesuja mnie doswiadczenia seagateowcow.
  40594.  
  40595. --
  40596. ,x80Y^"    Member of Amiga Promotion Group and fanatic AMIGA user
  40597. $0+'            Grzegorz Junka "Bastian"
  40598. 08    piccolo@ibm.uci.agh.edu.pl    bastian@apg.plukwa.pdi.net
  40599. 0'
  40600. 9    A1200Inf 040/40Bliz 32Mb 1.6Gb 12x 1942S CN40BC
  40601.  
  40602. From owner-amigapl  Mon Mar 30 00:19:32 1998
  40603. Received: from orka.szczecin.tpnet.pl (orka.szczecin.tpnet.pl [194.204.141.12]) by amiga.com.pl (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA01208 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 00:04:41 +0200 (CEST)
  40604. Received: from server.fiber.net.pl ([194.204.141.185])
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  40606.            with SMTP id AAE2644 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>;
  40607.           Mon, 30 Mar 1998 00:04:44 +0200
  40608. From: Admin <owner-amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  40609. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  40610. Date: Sun, 29 Mar 1998 22:20:57 +0100
  40611. Message-ID: <yam7392.2894.141162128@www.szczecin.tpnet.pl>
  40612. In-Reply-To: <yam7391.1848.1745890760@mail.lodz.pdi.net>
  40613. X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 beta10 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
  40614. Organization: W.F.M.H.   (http://wfmh.org.pl)
  40615. Subject: Re: Prosba do Admina
  40616. MIME-Version: 1.0
  40617. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  40618. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  40619.  
  40620. Dnia 28-Mar-98, Adam Tynenski napisa=B3:
  40621.  
  40622. > I'M AN IDIOT BECAUSE I'M USING PIRATED SOFTWARE!
  40623. > =
  40624.  
  40625. > W zwiazku z faktem, ze przebudowuje sie serwer KKI (kki.net.pl)
  40626. > jest malutka prosba do Ciebie Adminie
  40627. > =
  40628.  
  40629. > Nie wywalaj uzytkownikow KKI na razie. Od poniedzialku KKI znow zacznie=
  40630.  
  40631. > funkcjonowac...
  40632.  
  40633. Nie wywal=EA, chyba =BFe mi kto takie info jeszcze raz przy=B6l=EA na lis=
  40634. t=EA
  40635. zamiast na priva.
  40636.  
  40637. -- =
  40638.  
  40639.  Admin                           mailto:owner-amigapl@amiga.com.pl
  40640.  
  40641.  
  40642.  
  40643. From owner-amigapl  Mon Mar 30 00:49:23 1998
  40644. Received: from info.cyf-kr.edu.pl (info.cyf-kr.edu.pl [149.156.4.11]) by amiga.com.pl (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA01333 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 00:40:32 +0200 (CEST)
  40645. Received: from kinga.cyf-kr.edu.pl (0@kinga.cyf-kr.edu.pl [149.156.2.32])
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  40647.     Mon, 30 Mar 1998 00:39:50 +0200 (METDST)
  40648. Received: from cyfronet.krakow.pl (mxjawors@d-11-55.cyfronet.krakow.pl [149.156.1.192])
  40649.     by kinga.cyf-kr.edu.pl (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA13877;
  40650.     Mon, 30 Mar 1998 00:39:49 +0200 (METDST)
  40651. From: Wojtek Jaworski <mxjawors@cyf-kr.edu.pl>
  40652. To: amigapl@amiga.com.pl, Lista dyskusyjna <amiga@plearn.edu.pl>
  40653. Date: Sun, 29 Mar 1998 22:37:31 +0200
  40654. Message-ID: <yam7392.1581.120208648@kinga>
  40655. X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview3 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
  40656. Subject: CASABLANKA
  40657. MIME-Version: 1.0
  40658. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  40659. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  40660.  
  40661. Cze=B6=E6,
  40662. Czy ktos z was wie gdzie moge znalezc wszelkiego rodzaju dane na temat
  40663. Casablanki i Draco ?
  40664. Pozdrawiam.
  40665. -- =
  40666.  
  40667.  
  40668. Wojtek
  40669. mailto: mxjawors@cyfronet.krakow.pl
  40670.  
  40671. From owner-amigapl  Mon Mar 30 09:03:04 1998
  40672. Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by amiga.com.pl (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA03626 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 09:03:03 +0200 (CEST)
  40673. Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 09:03:02 +0200 (CEST)
  40674. From: Marcin Orlowski <carlos@amiga.com.pl>
  40675. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  40676. Subject: Re: CASABLANKA
  40677. In-Reply-To: <yam7392.1581.120208648@kinga>
  40678. Message-ID: <Pine.NEB.3.96.980330090241.3589A-100000@amiga.com.pl>
  40679. MIME-Version: 1.0
  40680. Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
  40681.  
  40682. On Sun, 29 Mar 1998, Wojtek Jaworski wrote:
  40683.  
  40684. > Czy ktos z was wie gdzie moge znalezc wszelkiego rodzaju dane na temat
  40685. > Casablanki i Draco ?
  40686.  
  40687. www.draco.com?
  40688.  
  40689. --
  40690.  Daddy, what FORMATTING DRIVE C: means?
  40691.  
  40692.  Marcin                     mailto:carlos@amiga.com.pl
  40693.                               http://www.wfmh.org.pl
  40694.  
  40695.  
  40696. From owner-amigapl  Mon Mar 30 09:19:28 1998
  40697. Received: from sun1000.pwr.wroc.pl (sauron@sun1000.pwr.wroc.pl [156.17.5.3]) by amiga.com.pl (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA03633 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 09:05:21 +0200 (CEST)
  40698. Received: from localhost (sauron@localhost) by sun1000.pwr.wroc.pl (8.8.7/8.8.5/ts-sun1000.971031+rchk1.20a+bspm1.13) with SMTP id JAA25247 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 09:04:32 +0200 (MET DST)
  40699. Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 09:04:32 +0200 (MET DST)
  40700. From: Adrian Siemieniak <sauron@pwr.wroc.pl>
  40701. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  40702. Subject: Re: animacje
  40703. In-Reply-To: <329.392T1141T7243095@uznam.top.pl>
  40704. Message-ID: <Pine.SV4.3.96.980330090355.25106A-100000@sun1000.pwr.wroc.pl>
  40705. MIME-Version: 1.0
  40706. Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
  40707.  
  40708.  
  40709. Ja polecam MainActora - jest naprawde dobry - wada, musi przesledzic
  40710. animacje nim ja pokaze chyba ze ma specialny index.
  40711.  
  40712. Adrian (Sauron) Siemieniak    /~//_      .. Who can destroy The Thing,
  40713. sauron@pwr.wroc.pl           / //__\      controls The Thing ... (DUNE)
  40714. sauron@ic.com.pl             \/___ /       Amiga1240T/40Mhz/16MB/1.5GB
  40715. Admin on !Agnen! MUD           / //   Author: MPEGIntuition, MENTAT, Agnen
  40716. BTester QT,CyberQT/AVI,AVId    \//            Animations/Multimedia FAQ,
  40717. http://www.ic.com.pl/~sauron                  XAnim port,IntelIndeo.library
  40718.  
  40719. From owner-amigapl  Mon Mar 30 09:19:35 1998
  40720. Received: from opnt.optimus.wroc.pl (opnt.optimus.wroc.pl [195.117.195.3]) by amiga.com.pl (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA03635 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 09:07:45 +0200 (CEST)
  40721. Received: from opnt.optimus.wroc.pl (unverified [195.116.164.11]) by opnt.optimus.wroc.pl
  40722.  (EMWAC SMTPRS 0.83) with SMTP id <B0000084161@opnt.optimus.wroc.pl>;
  40723.  Mon, 30 Mar 1998 09:06:45 +0200
  40724. From: Maciej Matyka <maq@opnt.optimus.wroc.pl>
  40725. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  40726. Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 08:04:59 +0100
  40727. Message-ID: <yam7393.2963.2014518240@opnt.optimus.wroc.pl>
  40728. In-Reply-To: <01bd5af2$e1c7e000$fdfefe01@mk>
  40729. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  40730. Subject: Re: Jak wymusic deklaracje zmiennych w CHIP RAM
  40731. MIME-Version: 1.0
  40732. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
  40733. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  40734.  
  40735. Dnia 29-Mar-98, Wojciech Kocjan napisal(a):
  40736.  
  40737. >Z pocz=B1tku nawet mia=B3em w planie pracowa=E6 w trybie chunky, ale
  40738. >moja procka c2p pozwala=B3a na tylko 2-3 ramki na sekund=EA.
  40739.  
  40740. To Ty ja chyba w C napisales, zgadlem? Wiesz, w przypadku c2p bez asma si=
  40741. e nie
  40742. obejdziesz. A jesli nie masz nic przeciwko uzyciu asma w swoim formacie,
  40743. proponuje publiczne zrodla Kalmsa (Scout) - jest nawet zrodlo, ktore na
  40744. 030.50Mhz przeprowadza c2p 320*256/8bit w 1 ramce.
  40745.  
  40746. >Poza tym =BFadna
  40747. >procedura c2p nie obrobi (mo=BFe si=EA myl=EA) 10 ramek na sekund=EA w
  40748. >rozdzielczo=B6ci 256 na 200 na a1200 z fastem.
  40749.  
  40750. WW na golej 1200 nawet niezle dziala, ale nie chcialo mi sie sprawdzac
  40751. dokladnie. Jak chcesz, to sprawdze. A z zaimplementowaniem tego do C nie
  40752. powinienes miec problemow, PHXAsm i po sprawie (hi AMST :)
  40753.  
  40754. -- =
  40755.  
  40756. MaQ                                   mail: maq@opnt.optimus.wroc.pl
  40757.  
  40758. From owner-amigapl  Mon Mar 30 09:27:50 1998
  40759. Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by amiga.com.pl (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA03668 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 09:27:49 +0200 (CEST)
  40760. Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 09:27:48 +0200 (CEST)
  40761. From: Marcin Orlowski <carlos@amiga.com.pl>
  40762. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  40763. Subject: Re: mui
  40764. In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.3.95.980329123641.9589A-100000@student>
  40765. Message-ID: <Pine.NEB.3.96.980330092623.3589B-100000@amiga.com.pl>
  40766. MIME-Version: 1.0
  40767. Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
  40768.  
  40769. On Sun, 29 Mar 1998, Grzegorz Junka wrote:
  40770.  
  40771. > razie jest to jakis blad programow korzystajacych z MUI, i tym samym jakis
  40772. > popularny blad programistow piszacych w MUI?
  40773.  
  40774. Nie sadze, gdyz lokalnie MUIowe programy chodza jak marzenie. Predziej
  40775. wywalilbym MCP & friends. Powinno pomoc.
  40776.  
  40777. --
  40778.  Daddy, what FORMATTING DRIVE C: means?
  40779.  
  40780.  Marcin                     mailto:carlos@amiga.com.pl
  40781.                               http://www.wfmh.org.pl
  40782.  
  40783.  
  40784. From owner-amigapl  Mon Mar 30 09:49:26 1998
  40785. Received: from zskl.p.lodz.pl (root@zskl.p.lodz.pl [194.181.171.3]) by amiga.com.pl (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA03700 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 09:42:26 +0200 (CEST)
  40786. Received: from ck-st1.p.lodz.pl (kaczus@ck-st1.p.lodz.pl [193.59.44.219]) by zskl.p.lodz.pl (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA00210 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 09:41:20 +0200
  40787. Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 09:41:20 +0200
  40788. Message-Id: <199803300741.JAA00210@zskl.p.lodz.pl>
  40789. X-Sender: kaczus@kki.net.pl
  40790. X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2
  40791. Mime-Version: 1.0
  40792. Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
  40793. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  40794. From: Tomek Kaczanowski <kaczus@kki.net.pl>
  40795. Subject: Re: seagate
  40796.  
  40797. At 00:09 98-03-30 +0200, you wrote:
  40798. >
  40799. >Czy mial ktos jakiejs niemile przejscia z Seagateami 1.1,1.3 lub 1.6GB?
  40800. >Zastanawiam sie nad dyskiem ok. 1.3 Seagate lub Caviar. Poniewaz Caviara
  40801. >mam, interesuja mnie doswiadczenia seagateowcow.
  40802. /Me  ma seagate 1.28GB - ma on te wade iz wspolpracuje prawie ze wszystkimi
  40803. hdd procz Seagate 130MB :(( i vice versa (niezaleznie jak ustawisz zworki system
  40804. widzi tylko tego drugiego :(((. Tak wiec do przenoszenia danych potrzebuje 3
  40805. dysk
  40806. na bufor ...
  40807.  
  40808. Kaczus of Blala
  40809.  
  40810. From owner-amigapl  Mon Mar 30 15:24:01 1998
  40811. Received: from www.kki.net.pl (www.kki.net.pl [195.116.9.70]) by amiga.com.pl (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA01186 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 15:16:06 +0200 (CEST)
  40812. Received: from default (rmod2.kielce.mtl.pl [195.117.92.34])
  40813.     by www.kki.net.pl (8.8.8/8.8.8.ver6) with ESMTP id PAA22686
  40814.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 15:14:34 GMT
  40815. Message-Id: <199803301514.PAA22686@www.kki.net.pl>
  40816. From: "=?ISO-8859-2?Q?Marcin_Soko=B3owski?=" <600user@kki.net.pl>
  40817. To: "AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi" <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  40818. Subject: Odp: CD-ROM
  40819. Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 12:27:49 +0200
  40820. X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
  40821. X-Priority: 3
  40822. X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155
  40823. MIME-Version: 1.0
  40824. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2
  40825. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  40826.  
  40827. ----------
  40828. Od: Roger Kolomlocki <roger@owl.au.poznan.pl>
  40829. Do: amigapl@amiga.com.pl
  40830. Temat: CD-ROM
  40831. Data: 27 marca 1998 21:13
  40832.  
  40833. >Jaki CD-ROM ma na 100% mo=BFliwo=B6=E6 zgrywania track=F3w z p=B3ytki? =
  40834. Zamierzam kupi=E6
  40835. >16x. Podobno Toshiba dziala idealnie z Amig=B1, ale nie wiem czy =
  40836. wszystkie
  40837.  
  40838. Toshiba XM-6002B chodzi (IDE)...alnie :)
  40839. Probowalem OptyCDPlayerem, Asim tez nie ma problemow.
  40840. ----------------------
  40841. Marcin "XMS" Soko=B3owski Amiga FAN ForEver
  40842. http://www.complex.com.pl/~zbylu/xms/xms001.html
  40843. A4k/18/1.2/Merlin4/15"/CD16, A600/020/882/10/KCS/1084S
  40844. 600user@kki.net.pl
  40845.  
  40846.  
  40847. From owner-amigapl  Mon Mar 30 15:24:10 1998
  40848. Received: from www.kki.net.pl (www.kki.net.pl [195.116.9.70]) by amiga.com.pl (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA01189 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 15:16:14 +0200 (CEST)
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  40853. From: "=?ISO-8859-2?Q?Marcin_Soko=B3owski?=" <600user@kki.net.pl>
  40854. To: <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  40855. Subject: *** Chumory Amigi 600 ***
  40856. Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 14:00:22 +0200
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  40863.  
  40864. Witam !
  40865.  
  40866. Nie wiem, co jest grane, ale schody zaczely sie po przelozeniu do A-600 =
  40867. dysku 120 MB (starutenki...i wolniutki). Wczesniej byl tam 1.2 GB wraz z =
  40868. CD-ROMem, ktorego to CD tez wyjalem..
  40869. I od tej pory - same problemy.
  40870. Mialem wczesniej na 1.2 GB archiwum Quarterbacka - zrzut calej partycji =
  40871. bootujacej - ktore zdazylem juz przetestowac dwa razy (raz w A-600 na =
  40872. dysku 1.2GB, kiedy jeszcze tam byl, a drugi raz - na A-4000, kiedy 1.2 =
  40873. GB juz tam byl) :) Wiec po serialu przegralem wszystko na partycje 120 =
  40874. MB, potem reset, a tu.... zwis !
  40875. Dla informacji powiem tylko, ze mialem tam SKICKa oraz ROM 3.1 =
  40876. allokowany w FASCIE. Dysk odpala sie poprawnie do owego SKICKa, a potem =
  40877. w trakcie realizacji startup-sequence sie wiesza.
  40878. No wiec poczekalem chwilke na softkickowanie 3.1 i zabootowalem "Boot =
  40879. with no startup". I co ? Okazuje sie, ze po "LoadWB" belka WB pokazuje =
  40880. .... "-702 MB CHIP RAM" !!! Teraz juz wiem, skad te zwisy w trakcie =
  40881. wczytywania startupu.
  40882. Teraz pytanie: jak to wytlumaczyc, ze A-600 z dyskiem 1.2 GB chodzi OK, =
  40883. a z dyskiem 120 MB nie OK (pomimo, ze partycje bootujace maja te sama =
  40884. zawartosc !) ?
  40885. Moze to cos pomoze - LoadWB jest z pakietu DOpusa Magellana, ale =
  40886. probowalem tez z LoadWB_old - i jest to samo...
  40887. Pomozcie, jesli tylko mozecie...
  40888.  
  40889. Pozdrawiam !
  40890. ----------------------
  40891. Marcin "XMS" Soko=B3owski Amiga FAN ForEver
  40892. http://www.complex.com.pl/~zbylu/xms/xms001.html
  40893. A4k/18/1.2/Merlin4/15"/CD16, A600/020/882/10/KCS/1084S
  40894. 600user@kki.net.pl
  40895. From owner-amigapl  Mon Mar 30 16:03:33 1998
  40896. Received: from ucku4.uck.pk.edu.pl (e057@ucku4.uck.pk.edu.pl [149.156.136.154]) by amiga.com.pl (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA01370 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 16:00:41 +0200 (CEST)
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  40900. Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 15:58:22 +0200 (CEST)
  40901. From: Radoslaw Janeczko <e057@ucku4.uck.pk.edu.pl>
  40902. X-Sender: e057@ucku4
  40903. To: WFMH amigapl <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  40904. Subject: kick boot
  40905. Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.980330155611.12933B-100000@ucku4>
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  40908.  
  40909. Hello jeszcze raz!
  40910.  
  40911. Mam sobie kicka w pliku i chce na niego podmienic moj oryginalny. Jakie
  40912. wektroki nalezy ustawic (i na co) i jak wogole sie za to zabrac? Mam
  40913. zamiar zamienic 1.3 na 3.0.
  40914.  
  40915. Pozdrowionka!
  40916. +--------------------+---------------------------------------------------+
  40917. | Radoslaw Janeczko  | e-mail: e057@ucku4.uck.pk.edu.pl             ///  |
  40918. |   AXEN of GOTHIC   |    WWW: ucku4.uck.pk.edu.pl/~e057/       \\\///   |
  40919. |assembler programmer|   hard: A1200/882/10MB/HDD850MB           \///    |
  40920. +--------------------+---------------------------------------------------+
  40921.  
  40922. From owner-amigapl  Mon Mar 30 16:12:24 1998
  40923. Received: from server.fiber.net.pl (server.fiber.net.pl [195.117.208.101]) by amiga.com.pl (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA01396 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 16:04:39 +0200 (CEST)
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  40928. From: Miloslaw Smyk <thorgal@amiga.com.pl>
  40929. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  40930. Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 16:03:02 +0100
  40931. Message-ID: <yam7393.143.144104728@fiber.net.pl>
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  40934. Organization: W.F.M.H.
  40935. Subject: Re: Jak wymusic deklaracje zmiennych w CHIP RAM
  40936. MIME-Version: 1.0
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  40939.  
  40940. Dnia 30-Mar-98, Maciej Matyka rzek=B3 co nast=EApuje:
  40941. > Dnia 29-Mar-98, Wojciech Kocjan napisal(a):
  40942.  
  40943. >> Z pocz=B1tku nawet mia=B3em w planie pracowa=E6 w trybie chunky, ale
  40944. >> moja procka c2p pozwala=B3a na tylko 2-3 ramki na sekund=EA.
  40945. > =
  40946.  
  40947. > To Ty ja chyba w C napisales, zgadlem? Wiesz, w przypadku c2p bez asma =
  40948. sie
  40949. nie
  40950. > obejdziesz.
  40951.  
  40952. Niezupe=B3nie. Ch=B3opcy z VenusArt maj=B1 bardzo szybkie c2p w C. Ale mo=
  40953. =BFe sami
  40954. co=B6 napisz=B1 na ten temat...
  40955.  
  40956. ? A jesli nie masz nic przeciwko uzyciu asma w swoim formacie,
  40957. > proponuje publiczne zrodla Kalmsa (Scout) - jest nawet zrodlo, ktore na=
  40958.  
  40959. > 030.50Mhz przeprowadza c2p 320*256/8bit w 1 ramce.
  40960.  
  40961. W okienku? :)
  40962.  
  40963. Mi=B3ek
  40964. -- =
  40965.  
  40966. mailto:thorgal@amiga.com.pl   |  "Man in the Moon and other weird things"=
  40967.  -
  40968. http://wfmh.org.pl/~thorgal/  |  see it at http://wfmh.org.pl/~thorgal/Mo=
  40969. on/
  40970.  
  40971. From owner-amigapl  Mon Mar 30 16:23:40 1998
  40972. Received: from server.fiber.net.pl (server.fiber.net.pl [195.117.208.101]) by amiga.com.pl (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA01483 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 16:16:45 +0200 (CEST)
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  40980. Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 15:56:09 +0200 (CEST)
  40981. From: Radoslaw Janeczko <e057@ucku4.uck.pk.edu.pl>
  40982. X-Sender: e057@ucku4
  40983. To: WFMH amigapl <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  40984. Subject: kompilator C na male Amigi
  40985. Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.980330155303.12933A-100000@ucku4>
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  40988.  
  40989. Czesc!
  40990.  
  40991. Pilnie potrzebuje kompilatora C, ktory zadzialalby na A600 z 1MB ramu.
  40992. Potrzebny do pisania niewielkich programikow. Slyszalem kiedys o Aztec C,
  40993. czy czyms podobnym, ale niestety nie mam do tego dostepu. Jesli ktos
  40994. moglby mi pomoc, to na priva pliz!
  40995.  
  40996. Pozdrowionka!
  40997. +--------------------+---------------------------------------------------+
  40998. | Radoslaw Janeczko  | e-mail: e057@ucku4.uck.pk.edu.pl             ///  |
  40999. |   AXEN of GOTHIC   |    WWW: ucku4.uck.pk.edu.pl/~e057/       \\\///   |
  41000. |assembler programmer|   hard: A1200/882/10MB/HDD850MB           \///    |
  41001. +--------------------+---------------------------------------------------+
  41002.  
  41003. From owner-amigapl  Mon Mar 30 16:23:48 1998
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  41009. From: Miloslaw Smyk <thorgal@amiga.com.pl>
  41010. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  41011. Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 15:45:29 +0100
  41012. Message-ID: <yam7393.1492.144104728@fiber.net.pl>
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  41014. X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview3 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
  41015. Organization: W.F.M.H.
  41016. Subject: Re: Jak wymusic deklaracje zmiennych w CHIP RAM
  41017. MIME-Version: 1.0
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  41020.  
  41021. Dnia 29-Mar-98, Wojciech Kocjan rzek=B3 co nast=EApuje:
  41022.  
  41023. > Wiem, =BFe nie jest zgodne z wytycznymi. Dlatego nie podoba mi si=EA ta=
  41024.  
  41025. > koncepcja. Jednak=BFe skoro ju=BF tak robi=EA, to trudno. Tylko sie
  41026. zastanawia=B3em
  41027. > czy da si=EA sprawdzi=E6, czy bitmapy mog=B1 by=E6 zalokowane w fa=B6ci=
  41028. e - wiem, =BFe
  41029. > mo=BFna np. z cybergraphics.library.
  41030.  
  41031. Zamiast sprawdza=E6 czy mo=BFna, trzeba pozwoli=E6 systemowi na samodziel=
  41032. ne
  41033. zaalokowanie pami=EAci na grafik=EA. Wkr=F3tce CyberGraphX b=EAdzie rezer=
  41034. wowa=B3 cz=EA=B6=E6
  41035. bitmap bezpo=B6rednio w pami=EAci karty graficznej. Da to gigantyczny dop=
  41036. a=B3 -
  41037. np. blitter na CV64(/3D) kopiuje bloki z pr=EAdko=B6ci=B1 ~100MB/s, natom=
  41038. iast ich
  41039. przepychanie przez Zorro to w najlepszym przypadku 16MB/s. =AFe ju=BF nie=
  41040.  
  41041. wspomn=EA, co si=EA dzieje, kiedy dane s=B1 w chipramie, w formacie innym=
  41042.  ni=BF
  41043. display karty.
  41044.  
  41045. Mi=B3ek
  41046. -- =
  41047.  
  41048. mailto:thorgal@amiga.com.pl   |  "Man in the Moon and other weird things"=
  41049.  -
  41050. http://wfmh.org.pl/~thorgal/  |  see it at http://wfmh.org.pl/~thorgal/Mo=
  41051. on/
  41052.  
  41053. From owner-amigapl  Mon Mar 30 16:23:56 1998
  41054. Received: from server.fiber.net.pl (server.fiber.net.pl [195.117.208.101]) by amiga.com.pl (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA01393 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 16:04:37 +0200 (CEST)
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  41058.           Mon, 30 Mar 1998 15:04:28 +0100
  41059. From: Miloslaw Smyk <thorgal@amiga.com.pl>
  41060. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  41061. Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 16:01:00 +0100
  41062. Message-ID: <yam7393.38.144104728@fiber.net.pl>
  41063. In-Reply-To: <01bd5af2$e1c7e000$fdfefe01@mk>
  41064. X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview3 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
  41065. Organization: W.F.M.H.
  41066. Subject: Re: Jak wymusic deklaracje zmiennych w CHIP RAM
  41067. MIME-Version: 1.0
  41068. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  41069. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  41070.  
  41071. Cze=B6=E6,
  41072.  
  41073. Dnia 29-Mar-98, Wojciech Kocjan rzek=B3 co nast=EApuje:
  41074.  
  41075. > Ja ju=BF tak allokuj=EA od dawna (tylko si=EA zastanawiam czy si=EA nie=
  41076.  da inaczej
  41077. -
  41078. > zgodnie z systemem).
  41079.  
  41080. Da si=EA, funkcj=B1 AllocBitMap().
  41081.  
  41082. > Dlaczego? Na ko=B6ciach AGA i ECS chodzi. Z ch=EAci=B1 przetestowa=B3by=
  41083. m na
  41084. jakiej=B6
  41085. > karcie graficznej.
  41086.  
  41087. Du=BFo nie potestujesz, z tej prostej przyczyny, =BFe na karcie nie ma
  41088. bitplan=F3w.
  41089.  
  41090. >> Rozwi=B1zywanie problemu najlepiej rozpocz=B1=E6 od zastanowienia si=EA=
  41091. , czy
  41092. >> naprawd=EA potrzebujesz korzysta=E6 z oddzielnych bitplan=F3w. Karty g=
  41093. raficzne
  41094. >> generalnie operuj=B1 na grafice chunky, wi=EAc w kt=F3rym=B6 miejscu b=
  41095. =EAdzie
  41096. musia=B3a
  41097. >> odby=E6 si=EA konwersja p2c - innymi s=B3owy, co=B6 nie b=EAdzie tak s=
  41098. zybkie jak by
  41099. >> mog=B3o by=E6.
  41100. > =
  41101.  
  41102. > Chcia=B3bym tylko przypomnie=E6, i=BF najpopularniejsze (chyba) karty g=
  41103. raficzne
  41104. na
  41105. > amig=EA CV64 i CV64/3D maj=B1 wbudowany chyba osobny chip zajmuj=B1cy s=
  41106. i=EA p2c.
  41107.  
  41108. Najpopularniejsza karta - CV64/3D - nie ma. CV64 ma (RoXXler si=EA on zow=
  41109. ie),
  41110. ale to nie zmienia faktu, =BFe konwersji trzeba dokona=E6 i zajmuje ona c=
  41111. hwil=EA.
  41112.  
  41113. > A tak powa=BFnie to pisz=EA drobny format animacji, kt=F3ry ma chodzi=E6=
  41114.  na a1200
  41115. z
  41116. > fastem. I chodzi. Jak narazie korzystam z AllocMem(), tylko te=BF mi si=
  41117. =EA to
  41118. > nie podoba. Z pocz=B1tku nawet mia=B3em w planie pracowa=E6 w trybie ch=
  41119. unky, ale
  41120. > moja procka c2p pozwala=B3a na tylko 2-3 ramki na sekund=EA. Poza tym =BF=
  41121. adna
  41122. > procedura c2p nie obrobi (mo=BFe si=EA myl=EA) 10 ramek na sekund=EA w
  41123. > rozdzielczo=B6ci 256 na 200 na a1200 z fastem.
  41124.  
  41125. Hmm, planarny format animacji? A co jest nie tak z IFF ANIM?
  41126.  
  41127. > A jeden blok, bo tak musi po prostu by=E6. Takie by=B3o jedno z pierwsz=
  41128. ych
  41129. > za=B3o=BFe=F1 i tak musi pozosta=E6.
  41130.  
  41131. To w=B3a=B6nie dlatego przy pisaniu oprogramowania najwi=EAcej trzeba my=B6=
  41132. le=E6 na
  41133. pocz=B1tku. :)
  41134.  
  41135. Hej,
  41136. Mi=B3ek
  41137. -- =
  41138.  
  41139. mailto:thorgal@amiga.com.pl   |  "Man in the Moon and other weird things"=
  41140.  -
  41141. http://wfmh.org.pl/~thorgal/  |  see it at http://wfmh.org.pl/~thorgal/Mo=
  41142. on/
  41143.  
  41144. From owner-amigapl  Mon Mar 30 16:24:08 1998
  41145. Received: from server.fiber.net.pl (server.fiber.net.pl [195.117.208.101]) by amiga.com.pl (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA01396 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 16:04:39 +0200 (CEST)
  41146. Received: from amiga.com.pl (pppb120.szczecin.tpnet.pl [195.205.239.120])
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  41148.           id AAD24734 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>;
  41149.           Mon, 30 Mar 1998 15:04:31 +0100
  41150. From: Miloslaw Smyk <thorgal@amiga.com.pl>
  41151. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  41152. Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 16:03:02 +0100
  41153. Message-ID: <yam7393.143.144104728@fiber.net.pl>
  41154. In-Reply-To: <yam7393.2963.2014518240@opnt.optimus.wroc.pl>
  41155. X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview3 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
  41156. Organization: W.F.M.H.
  41157. Subject: Re: Jak wymusic deklaracje zmiennych w CHIP RAM
  41158. MIME-Version: 1.0
  41159. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  41160. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  41161.  
  41162. Dnia 30-Mar-98, Maciej Matyka rzek=B3 co nast=EApuje:
  41163. > Dnia 29-Mar-98, Wojciech Kocjan napisal(a):
  41164.  
  41165. >> Z pocz=B1tku nawet mia=B3em w planie pracowa=E6 w trybie chunky, ale
  41166. >> moja procka c2p pozwala=B3a na tylko 2-3 ramki na sekund=EA.
  41167. > =
  41168.  
  41169. > To Ty ja chyba w C napisales, zgadlem? Wiesz, w przypadku c2p bez asma =
  41170. sie
  41171. nie
  41172. > obejdziesz.
  41173.  
  41174. Niezupe=B3nie. Ch=B3opcy z VenusArt maj=B1 bardzo szybkie c2p w C. Ale mo=
  41175. =BFe sami
  41176. co=B6 napisz=B1 na ten temat...
  41177.  
  41178. ? A jesli nie masz nic przeciwko uzyciu asma w swoim formacie,
  41179. > proponuje publiczne zrodla Kalmsa (Scout) - jest nawet zrodlo, ktore na=
  41180.  
  41181. > 030.50Mhz przeprowadza c2p 320*256/8bit w 1 ramce.
  41182.  
  41183. W okienku? :)
  41184.  
  41185. Mi=B3ek
  41186. -- =
  41187.  
  41188. mailto:thorgal@amiga.com.pl   |  "Man in the Moon and other weird things"=
  41189.  -
  41190. http://wfmh.org.pl/~thorgal/  |  see it at http://wfmh.org.pl/~thorgal/Mo=
  41191. on/
  41192.  
  41193. From owner-amigapl  Mon Mar 30 17:03:35 1998
  41194. Received: from host.pkp.wroc.pl (host.pkp.wroc.pl [156.17.194.29]) by amiga.com.pl (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA01580 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 16:59:50 +0200 (CEST)
  41195. Received: from host.pkp.wroc.pl (Tygrys@pppa160.wroclaw.tpnet.pl [195.205.240.166])
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  41197.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 17:00:34 +0200 (CEST)
  41198. From: Piotr Walaszek <tygrysek@friko.onet.pl>
  41199. Reply-To: tygrysek@friko.onet.pl
  41200. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  41201. Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 09:41:01 +0100
  41202. Message-ID: <yam7391.52.1748499624@host.pkp.wroc.pl>
  41203. In-Reply-To: <01bd5802$344296c0$fdfefe01@mk>
  41204. X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview3 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
  41205. Organization: PKP
  41206. Subject: Re[2]: PPC do A1200
  41207. MIME-Version: 1.0
  41208. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  41209. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  41210.  
  41211. Dnia 25-Mar-98, Wojciech Kocjan napisa=B3:
  41212.  
  41213. > Mia=B3em na my=B6li fakt, =BFe 603 nie jest najnowszym procesorem. Phas=
  41214. e5 mog=B3o
  41215. > przynajmniej ujednolici=E6 amigi i zrobi=E6 same karty z 604 (i przy ok=
  41216. azji z 4
  41217. > podstawkami SIMM). To tak, jakby nie wypu=B6ci=E6 040 i 060 na a1200.
  41218.  
  41219. By=E6 mo=BFe 604e nie da=B3 sie upchn=B1=E6 w standardow=B1 obudow=EA A12=
  41220. 00.
  41221.  
  41222.  
  41223. Skaza =BFyje !
  41224. -- =
  41225.  
  41226.  
  41227.     "`-/")_.-'"``-._      Grrrrrr, :)
  41228.     . . `: -._    )-:-,_       Amiga 1230T/50, 18MB, 8.7GB, CD4x4,
  41229.    (*_,)'  _  )`-.\  ``-'      CV64/3d, NEC Multisync3D & A1200 + 600MB
  41230.   _.- _..-_/ / ((.'       tygrysek@friko.onet.pl        tygrysek@pkp.wroc=
  41231. =2Epl
  41232. _((,.-'  ((,/             http://friko.onet.pl/wr/tygrysek
  41233.  
  41234. From owner-amigapl  Mon Mar 30 17:03:43 1998
  41235. Received: from host.pkp.wroc.pl (host.pkp.wroc.pl [156.17.194.29]) by amiga.com.pl (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA01577 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 16:59:42 +0200 (CEST)
  41236. Received: from host.pkp.wroc.pl (Tygrys@pppa160.wroclaw.tpnet.pl [195.205.240.166])
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  41238.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 17:00:29 +0200 (CEST)
  41239. From: Piotr Walaszek <tygrysek@friko.onet.pl>
  41240. Reply-To: tygrysek@friko.onet.pl
  41241. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  41242. Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 09:33:09 +0100
  41243. Message-ID: <yam7391.496.1748499624@host.pkp.wroc.pl>
  41244. In-Reply-To: <yam7388.2394.1747444432@kki.net.pl>
  41245. X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview3 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
  41246. Organization: PKP
  41247. Subject: Re[2]: Odp: 14" vs 15"
  41248. MIME-Version: 1.0
  41249. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  41250. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  41251.  
  41252. Dnia 25-Mar-98, Stefan Koralewski napisa=B3:
  41253.  
  41254. > Panowie, nie dajmy si=EA zwariowa=EA. Faktem jest, =BFe ani standartowy=
  41255.  Multiscan,
  41256. ani DblPal nie wy=B6wietlaj=B1 poprawnie obrazu na monitorach SVGA, lecz =
  41257. wystarczy
  41258. ma=B3a przer=F3bka dowolnym programikiem typu MonED, MonSpec czy te=BF Mo=
  41259. nitorKiller
  41260. i po krzyku.
  41261.  
  41262. IBM D70 (O ile odbrze pamietam) u=BFywam go w pracy przy Ami i nie musia=B3=
  41263. em nic
  41264. kombinowa=E6 MonEdem. :)
  41265. (Tylko =BFe to niestety nie jest dobry monitor)
  41266.  
  41267. Skaza =BFyje !
  41268. -- =
  41269.  
  41270.  
  41271.     "`-/")_.-'"``-._      Grrrrrr, :)
  41272.     . . `: -._    )-:-,_       Amiga 1230T/50, 18MB, 8.7GB, CD4x4,
  41273.    (*_,)'  _  )`-.\  ``-'      CV64/3d, NEC Multisync3D & A1200 + 600MB
  41274.   _.- _..-_/ / ((.'       tygrysek@friko.onet.pl        tygrysek@pkp.wroc=
  41275. =2Epl
  41276. _((,.-'  ((,/             http://friko.onet.pl/wr/tygrysek
  41277.  
  41278. From owner-amigapl  Mon Mar 30 17:03:51 1998
  41279. Received: from www.kki.net.pl (www.kki.net.pl [195.116.9.70]) by amiga.com.pl (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA01568 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 16:53:54 +0200 (CEST)
  41280. Received: from kki.net.pl (STEAD@pmone244.lodz.pdi.net [195.116.162.244])
  41281.     by www.kki.net.pl (8.8.8/8.8.8.ver6) with SMTP id QAA12853
  41282.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 16:53:09 GMT
  41283. From: Stefan Koralweski <stead@kki.net.pl>
  41284. Reply-To: stead@kki.net.pl
  41285. To: amigapl@amiga.com.pl
  41286. Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 16:45:43 -0500
  41287. Message-ID: <yam7393.2195.1749223480@kki.net.pl>
  41288. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  41289. Organization: stead
  41290. Subject: Sorki
  41291. MIME-Version: 1.0
  41292. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
  41293. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  41294.  
  41295.  
  41296. Hmmm....
  41297. Narobi=EEem troszke syfu a przede wszystkim cala wina spad=EEa na niewinn=
  41298. ych czyli
  41299. STEAD.
  41300. To prawda zainstalowalismy krak Yam2.0 i to po moich naleganiach . Nieste=
  41301. ty
  41302. przez swoja kr=F3tkowzroczno=F4=EA zainstalowalismy PIRACKI.Swoj=E2 drog=E2=
  41303.  Yam jest
  41304. FREEWARE i tylko jaki=F4=A0idiota m=F3g=EE
  41305. go =EEama=EA . Star=E2 wersje maj=E2 zarejestrowan=E2 [STEAD] i co najdzi=
  41306. wniejsze to ONI
  41307. maj=E2 wi=EBcej =
  41308.  
  41309. rejestrowanych program=F3w ni=FB nie jeden z was . Tego nieszcz=EBsnego Y=
  41310. am`a
  41311. zainstalowa=EEem tylko w ramach testu bo to w ko=EFcu BETA.Soldier tak go=
  41312.  chwali=EE
  41313. =FBe nie mog=EEem si=EB oprze=EA.....
  41314.  
  41315. Przepraszam Was wszystkich kt=F3rych moje zachowanie obrazi=EEo bo nie to=
  41316.  mia=EEem
  41317. na celu.
  41318.  
  41319. OPi oF 4malina ^ Sa2k!
  41320.  
  41321. BTW: List napisa=EEem sam bez ponagle=EF STEAD`u a wasz=E2 [ Moj=E2 ?] li=
  41322. ste czytam u
  41323. nich bo mi "tepsa"
  41324.           jeszcze phona nie za=EEo=FBy=EEa
  41325.  
  41326. ps. kto=F4 pisa=EE =FBe z PLUKWY ?! a czy wy z niej nie korzystacie
  41327.  
  41328.                                                ..........::::::::AMIGA
  41329. RULEZ::::::::............=
  41330.  
  41331. From owner-amigapl  Mon Mar 30 17:03:58 1998
  41332. Received: from host.pkp.wroc.pl (host.pkp.wroc.pl [156.17.194.29]) by amiga.com.pl (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA01581 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 16:59:53 +0200 (CEST)
  41333. Received: from host.pkp.wroc.pl (Tygrys@pppa160.wroclaw.tpnet.pl [195.205.240.166])
  41334.     by host.pkp.wroc.pl (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA13571
  41335.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 17:00:39 +0200 (CEST)
  41336. From: Piotr Walaszek <tygrysek@friko.onet.pl>
  41337. Reply-To: tygrysek@friko.onet.pl
  41338. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  41339. Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 09:50:16 +0100
  41340. Message-ID: <yam7391.813.1748499624@host.pkp.wroc.pl>
  41341. In-Reply-To: <yam7388.1837.139279944@fiber.net.pl>
  41342. X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview3 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
  41343. Organization: PKP
  41344. Subject: Re[2]: Magix
  41345. MIME-Version: 1.0
  41346. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  41347. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  41348.  
  41349. Dnia 25-Mar-98, Miloslaw Smyk napisa=B3:
  41350.  
  41351. > Jest. Nazywa si=EA SoundTracker, a autorem jest bodaj=BFe Karsten Obars=
  41352. ki. :)
  41353. > Cho=E6 DigiBooster lepszy.
  41354. > Wszystko to mo=BFe mniej "multimedialne" od programu z PC, ale o ile=BF=
  41355.  bardziej
  41356. > praktyczne.
  41357.  
  41358. Widz=EA, =BFe nie poj=B1=B3e=B6 o co chodzi - chodzi o bardzo d=B3ugie sa=
  41359. mple (np. 100MB),
  41360.  widzia=B3em (a raczej s=B3ysza=B3em) co=B6 takiego u kolegi. Mo=BFna odt=
  41361. warza=E6 par=EA
  41362.  takich sampelk=F3w i przy okazji pozmienia=E6 troch=EA parametry ka=BFde=
  41363. go.
  41364.  Czyli masz jakby "magnetofony" ze "sto=B3em mikserskim"
  41365.  
  41366. Skaza =BFyje !
  41367. -- =
  41368.  
  41369.  
  41370.     "`-/")_.-'"``-._      Grrrrrr, :)
  41371.     . . `: -._    )-:-,_       Amiga 1230T/50, 18MB, 8.7GB, CD4x4,
  41372.    (*_,)'  _  )`-.\  ``-'      CV64/3d, NEC Multisync3D & A1200 + 600MB
  41373.   _.- _..-_/ / ((.'       tygrysek@friko.onet.pl        tygrysek@pkp.wroc=
  41374. =2Epl
  41375. _((,.-'  ((,/             http://friko.onet.pl/wr/tygrysek
  41376.  
  41377. From owner-amigapl  Mon Mar 30 18:03:33 1998
  41378. Received: from server.fiber.net.pl (server.fiber.net.pl [195.117.208.101]) by amiga.com.pl (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA01668 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 17:46:05 +0200 (CEST)
  41379. Received: from sun10.ci.pwr.wroc.pl ([156.17.10.1]) by server.fiber.net.pl
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  41381.           for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 16:45:59 +0100
  41382. Received: (from baran@localhost)
  41383.     by sun10.ci.pwr.wroc.pl (8.8.7/8.8.7) id RAA03357;
  41384.     Mon, 30 Mar 1998 17:40:18 +0200 (MET DST)
  41385. Message-ID: <19980330174016.61036@sun10.ci.pwr.wroc.pl>
  41386. Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 17:40:16 +0200
  41387. From: "Miroslaw 'Jubal' Baran, NM" <baran@.knm.org.pl>
  41388. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  41389. Subject: Re: *** Linux na Amidze ***
  41390. Reply-To: "Miroslaw 'Jubal' Baran, NM" <baran@knm.org..pl>
  41391. Mail-Followup-To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  41392. References: <199803260708.IAA04781@www.kki.net.pl>
  41393. Mime-Version: 1.0
  41394. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  41395. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  41396. X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i
  41397. In-Reply-To: =?iso-8859-2?Q?=3C199803260708=2EIAA04781=40www=2Ekki=2Enet=2Epl=3E=3B_f?=
  41398.  =?iso-8859-2?Q?rom_Marcin_Soko=B3owski_on_Thu=2C_Mar_26=2C_1998_at_07=3A?=
  41399.  =?iso-8859-2?Q?16=3A01AM_+0100?=
  41400. Organization: Klub Nieszkodliwych Maniakow
  41401. X-Motto: ``I fought in the old revolution / on the side of the ghost and the King...''
  41402. X-Alchemy: Pany!
  41403. X-System: SunOS 5.5
  41404.  
  41405. 26.03.98 pisze Marcin Soko=B3owski (600user@kki.net.pl):
  41406.  
  41407. > Czesc !
  41408. >=20
  41409. > Mam propozycje - dla kogo tylko, to juz inna sprawa :)
  41410. > Otoz moglby ktos sciagnac wszystkie wersje Linuxa (nie wiem, ile ich
  41411. > jest) i wydac na CD jako Shareware Linux Pack czy cos w tym stylu.
  41412. > Moze jedna wersja zainteresowalby sie MA i wydal dodatkowy kompakcik
  41413.  
  41414. Hmm... popatrz na sunsite.icm.edu.pl i poszukaj w pub/linux/680x0
  41415. (chyba). A najlepiej poczekaj na Debiana 2.0 -- bedzie w nim pelne
  41416. wsparcie dla platformy 680x0...
  41417.  
  41418. Poza tym poczytaj na http://www.linux.org.pl/ jak wyglada licencja GNU
  41419. -- to po to, zeby nie pisac potem Shareware na okladce dysku ;-)
  41420.  
  41421. pozdrawiam,
  41422. Jubal
  41423.  
  41424. --=20
  41425. =3D   // =3D mailto:baran@knm.org.pl =3D http://www.ci.pwr.wroc.pl/~baran/ =
  41426. =3D
  41427. =3D \X/  =3D Miroslaw L. Baran =3D Jubal =3D medical student =3D ALCHEMY PA=
  41428. NY! =3D
  41429.  
  41430.             tar: Cowardly refusing to create an empty archive
  41431. From owner-amigapl  Mon Mar 30 19:03:34 1998
  41432. Received: from orka.szczecin.tpnet.pl (orka.szczecin.tpnet.pl [194.204.141.12]) by amiga.com.pl (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA01748 for <amigapl@wfmh.org.pl>; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 18:46:53 +0200 (CEST)
  41433. Received: from amiga.org.pl ([194.204.141.155]) by orka.szczecin.tpnet.pl
  41434.           (Netscape Messaging Server 3.0)  with SMTP id AAA2709
  41435.           for <amigapl@wfmh.org.pl>; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 18:46:35 +0200
  41436. From: Bogdan Rzeszutko <captainr@amiga.org.pl>
  41437. To: Lista uzytkownikow Amisi <amigapl@wfmh.org.pl>
  41438. Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 18:43:32 +0100
  41439. Message-ID: <yam7393.1609.2015722512@www.szczecin.tpnet.pl>
  41440. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  41441. Subject: Pilne-okazja!
  41442. MIME-Version: 1.0
  41443. X-ISO-CONVERTED: Yam_ISO2 1.06 (17.11.97) (c) Silver Dream !
  41444. X-YAMISO-UPDATE: ftp://wfmh.org.pl/pub/yam_iso2/
  41445. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  41446. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  41447.  
  41448. W zwi=B1zku z zakupem PPC pilnie sprzedam:
  41449.  
  41450. Blizzard 060/50 na gwarancji (lipiec 98) - 1400 z=B3,
  41451. SCSI Kit na gwarancji (pa=BCdziernik 98) - 200 z=B3 =
  41452.  
  41453. 2 x 32 RAM EDO - 2 x 250 z=B3,
  41454. 1 x 16 RAM - 80 z=B3,
  41455.  
  41456.              telefon (091) 487-59-96 po 18.00
  41457.             lub kom=F3rkowy 0-601 79-86-35 =
  41458.  
  41459. -- =
  41460.  
  41461.  
  41462. mailto: *captainr@amiga.org.pl* =
  41463.  
  41464. __
  41465.  
  41466. From owner-amigapl  Mon Mar 30 19:23:37 1998
  41467. Received: from zskl.p.lodz.pl (root@zskl.p.lodz.pl [194.181.171.3]) by amiga.com.pl (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA01827 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 19:19:26 +0200 (CEST)
  41468. Received: from amiga (krashan@pppa22.bialystok.tpnet.pl [194.204.183.22]) by zskl.p.lodz.pl (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA09460 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 19:18:21 +0200
  41469. From: Grzegorz Kraszewski <krashan@amiga.org.pl>
  41470. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  41471. Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 01:48:56 +0100
  41472. Message-ID: <yam7391.2850.5958968@zskl.p.lodz.pl>
  41473. In-Reply-To: <yam7390.2365.1748335576@owl.au.poznan.pl>
  41474. X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview3 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
  41475. Organization: BlaBla
  41476. Subject: Re: CD-ROM
  41477. MIME-Version: 1.0
  41478. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  41479. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  41480.  
  41481. Dnia 27-Mar-98, Roger Kolomlocki napisal:
  41482.  
  41483. > Jaki CD-ROM ma na 100% mo=BFliwo=B6=E6 zgrywania track=F3w z p=B3ytki? =
  41484.  =
  41485.  
  41486.  
  41487. Informuj=EA, =BFe Mitsumi FX-400E na pewno *nie umo=BFliwia.*
  41488.  
  41489. Krashan
  41490.  
  41491. -- =
  41492.  
  41493. Grzegorz Kraszewski
  41494. on the scene Krashan/BlaBla
  41495. krashan@cksr.ac.bialystok.pl   to 1-Jul-1998
  41496. Amiga1200/030@50/10MB/HDD/CD/33.6kbps
  41497.  
  41498. BLABLA - IT MEANS SYSTEM FRIENDLY
  41499. ---------------------------------
  41500.  
  41501. From owner-amigapl  Mon Mar 30 19:23:45 1998
  41502. Received: from zskl.p.lodz.pl (root@zskl.p.lodz.pl [194.181.171.3]) by amiga.com.pl (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA01833 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 19:19:45 +0200 (CEST)
  41503. Received: from amiga (krashan@pppa22.bialystok.tpnet.pl [194.204.183.22]) by zskl.p.lodz.pl (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA09477 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 19:18:28 +0200
  41504. From: Grzegorz Kraszewski <krashan@amiga.org.pl>
  41505. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  41506. Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 01:33:55 +0100
  41507. Message-ID: <yam7391.2753.5958968@zskl.p.lodz.pl>
  41508. In-Reply-To: <yam7390.549.139908768@fiber.net.pl>
  41509. X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview3 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
  41510. Organization: BlaBla
  41511. Subject: Re[2]: Pare spraw
  41512. MIME-Version: 1.0
  41513. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  41514. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  41515.  
  41516. Dnia 27-Mar-98, Miloslaw Smyk napisal:
  41517.  
  41518. > Zamiast grzeba=E6 samemu po imsg->Code i qualifierach, nale=BFy wykona=E6=
  41519.  
  41520. > konwersj=EA za pomoc=B1 keymap.library. Opisane jest to Autodocu
  41521. > keymap.library/MapRawKey(). Poza tym nowe klasy MUI nie powinny korzyst=
  41522. a=E6
  41523. z
  41524. > MUIM_HandleInput lecz raczej z MUIM_HandleEvent - vide Autodoc
  41525. > Window.mui/MUIM_Window_AddEventHandler, sekcja NOTES.
  41526.  
  41527. W kt=F3rej wersji muidev s=B1 opisane te metody?
  41528.  
  41529. Krashan
  41530.  
  41531. -- =
  41532.  
  41533. Grzegorz Kraszewski
  41534. on the scene Krashan/BlaBla
  41535. krashan@cksr.ac.bialystok.pl   to 1-Jul-1998
  41536. Amiga1200/030@50/10MB/HDD/CD/33.6kbps
  41537.  
  41538. BLABLA - IT MEANS SYSTEM FRIENDLY
  41539. ---------------------------------
  41540.  
  41541. From owner-amigapl  Mon Mar 30 19:23:52 1998
  41542. Received: from zskl.p.lodz.pl (root@zskl.p.lodz.pl [194.181.171.3]) by amiga.com.pl (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA01835 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 19:19:50 +0200 (CEST)
  41543. Received: from amiga (krashan@pppa22.bialystok.tpnet.pl [194.204.183.22]) by zskl.p.lodz.pl (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA09485 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 19:18:43 +0200
  41544. From: Grzegorz Kraszewski <krashan@amiga.org.pl>
  41545. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  41546. Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 01:24:31 +0100
  41547. Message-ID: <yam7391.1578.5958968@zskl.p.lodz.pl>
  41548. In-Reply-To: <1094.390T1705T6691985@silesia.top.pl>
  41549. X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview3 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
  41550. Organization: BlaBla
  41551. Subject: Re[4]: Paula vs SoundBlaster
  41552. MIME-Version: 1.0
  41553. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  41554. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  41555.  
  41556. Dnia 27-Mar-98, Grzegorz Juraszek napisal:
  41557.  
  41558. > Najlepiej do testow wziac ten sam modul, a w przypadku peceta i player
  41559. jest
  41560. > wazny, nie kazdy odtwarza tak samo. Mimo wszystko w przypadku zwyklych
  41561. > klonow SB na FM nie mozna oczekiwac cudow.
  41562.  
  41563. Nie rozumiem tylko co ma FM do odtwarzania modu=B3=F3w? Przecie=BF FM jes=
  41564. t u=BFywane
  41565. tylko do syntezy d=BCwi=EAk=F3w, z odtwarzaniem gotowych sampli nie ma ni=
  41566. c
  41567. wsp=F3lnego. R=F3wnie=BF posiadanie karty wavetable nic nie daje w dziedz=
  41568. inie
  41569. odtwarzania modu=B3=F3w.
  41570.  
  41571. Krashan
  41572.  
  41573. -- =
  41574.  
  41575. Grzegorz Kraszewski
  41576. on the scene Krashan/BlaBla
  41577. krashan@cksr.ac.bialystok.pl   to 1-Jul-1998
  41578. Amiga1200/030@50/10MB/HDD/CD/33.6kbps
  41579.  
  41580. BLABLA - IT MEANS SYSTEM FRIENDLY
  41581. ---------------------------------
  41582.  
  41583. From owner-amigapl  Mon Mar 30 19:24:01 1998
  41584. Received: from zskl.p.lodz.pl (root@zskl.p.lodz.pl [194.181.171.3]) by amiga.com.pl (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA01831 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 19:19:39 +0200 (CEST)
  41585. Received: from amiga (krashan@pppa22.bialystok.tpnet.pl [194.204.183.22]) by zskl.p.lodz.pl (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA09472 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 19:18:26 +0200
  41586. From: Grzegorz Kraszewski <krashan@amiga.org.pl>
  41587. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  41588. Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 01:41:35 +0100
  41589. Message-ID: <yam7391.1792.5958968@zskl.p.lodz.pl>
  41590. In-Reply-To: <yam7390.2631.4483896@smtp.polbox.com>
  41591. X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview3 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
  41592. Organization: BlaBla
  41593. Subject: Re: Dzwiek z plyty kompaktowej muzycznej
  41594. MIME-Version: 1.0
  41595. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  41596. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  41597.  
  41598. Dnia 27-Mar-98, Dariusz Gac napisal:
  41599.  
  41600. > Jak puszczam sobie plyte do sluchania to DZWIEK NIE IDZIE
  41601. > PRZEZ AMIGE a tylko przez wyjscie sluchawkowe czytnika!
  41602. > Czy to jest normalne czy cos skopalem ?
  41603. > Amiga 3.0, AHI, OPUS MAGELLAN.
  41604.  
  41605. Oczywi=B6cie, =BFe normalne. S=B1 co prawda programy, kt=F3re mog=B1 pu=B6=
  41606. ci=E6 d=BCwi=EAk
  41607. przez Amig=EA (OptyCDPlayer), ale ma=B3o kt=F3ry nap=EAd CD na to pozwala=
  41608. =2E D=BCwi=EAk z
  41609. CD mo=BFna te=BF pobra=E6 przez 4-pinowe z=B3=B1cze Audio z ty=B3u (polec=
  41610. am - unika si=EA
  41611. szum=F3w wzmacniacza s=B3uchawkowego).
  41612.  
  41613. Krashan
  41614.  
  41615. -- =
  41616.  
  41617. Grzegorz Kraszewski
  41618. on the scene Krashan/BlaBla
  41619. krashan@cksr.ac.bialystok.pl   to 1-Jul-1998
  41620. Amiga1200/030@50/10MB/HDD/CD/33.6kbps
  41621.  
  41622. BLABLA - IT MEANS SYSTEM FRIENDLY
  41623. ---------------------------------
  41624.  
  41625. From owner-amigapl  Mon Mar 30 19:24:10 1998
  41626. Received: from zskl.p.lodz.pl (root@zskl.p.lodz.pl [194.181.171.3]) by amiga.com.pl (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA01829 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 19:19:28 +0200 (CEST)
  41627. Received: from amiga (krashan@pppa22.bialystok.tpnet.pl [194.204.183.22]) by zskl.p.lodz.pl (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA09466 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 19:18:24 +0200
  41628. From: Grzegorz Kraszewski <krashan@amiga.org.pl>
  41629. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  41630. Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 01:46:52 +0100
  41631. Message-ID: <yam7391.2609.5958968@zskl.p.lodz.pl>
  41632. In-Reply-To: <yam7390.1305.1747827256@kki.net.pl>
  41633. X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview3 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
  41634. Organization: BlaBla
  41635. Subject: Re[4]: Odp: 14" vs 15"
  41636. MIME-Version: 1.0
  41637. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  41638. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  41639.  
  41640. Dnia 27-Mar-98, Adam Majewski napisal:
  41641. > Dnia 26-Mar-98, Grzegorz Kraszewski napisa=B3:
  41642.  
  41643. > > B=B3=B1d. Tryb DBL powoduje jedynie dwa razy wi=EAksze obci=B1=BFenie=
  41644.  magistrali
  41645. > > pami=EAci CHIP w por=F3wnaniu do analogicznego trybu bez DBL, co wcal=
  41646. e nie
  41647. musi
  41648. > > oznacza=E6 (i nie oznacza) dwukrotnego spowolnienia grafiki. Ja na sw=
  41649. ojej
  41650. > > 030/50 u=BFywam do Workbencha DBLPAL HighRes NoFlicker (672x512) w 32=
  41651.  
  41652. > > kolorach i na szybko=B6=E6 grafiki nie narzekam.
  41653. > =
  41654.  
  41655. > Prze=B3=B1cz si=EA na 256 kolor=F3w i sam zobacz, granica znacznych r=F3=
  41656. =BFnic
  41657. > w pr=EAdko=B6ciach zaczyna si=EA od 64 kolor=F3w w g=F3r=EA :)
  41658.  
  41659. W PAL-u wcale nie chodzi to tak znowu szybciej, pod warunkiem posiadania
  41660. pami=EAci FAST. A maj=B1c do wyboru wolniej albo wyra=BCniej (interlace s=
  41661. uxx) wol=EA
  41662. wolniej.
  41663.  =
  41664.  
  41665. > ps. proponowa=B3bym tak=BFe prze=B3=B1czenie si=EA na multiscan,
  41666. >    ale to tw=F3j wyb=F3r (i twoje oczy :)
  41667.  
  41668. Podkr=EAcenie MonEdem do 30.9 kHz i 56 Hz + dobry filtr na monitor i nie =
  41669. ma
  41670. problemu.
  41671.  
  41672. Krashan
  41673.  
  41674. -- =
  41675.  
  41676. Grzegorz Kraszewski
  41677. on the scene Krashan/BlaBla
  41678. krashan@cksr.ac.bialystok.pl   to 1-Jul-1998
  41679. Amiga1200/030@50/10MB/HDD/CD/33.6kbps
  41680.  
  41681. BLABLA - IT MEANS SYSTEM FRIENDLY
  41682. ---------------------------------
  41683.  
  41684. From owner-amigapl  Mon Mar 30 19:24:19 1998
  41685. Received: from zskl.p.lodz.pl (root@zskl.p.lodz.pl [194.181.171.3]) by amiga.com.pl (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA01824 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 19:19:16 +0200 (CEST)
  41686. Received: from amiga (krashan@pppa22.bialystok.tpnet.pl [194.204.183.22]) by zskl.p.lodz.pl (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA09442 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 19:18:10 +0200
  41687. From: Grzegorz Kraszewski <krashan@amiga.org.pl>
  41688. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  41689. Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 12:59:24 +0100
  41690. Message-ID: <yam7393.1224.2015837024@zskl.p.lodz.pl>
  41691. In-Reply-To: <yam7390.1334.143067096@www.szczecin.tpnet.pl>
  41692. X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview3 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
  41693. Organization: BlaBla
  41694. Subject: Re[2]: Odp: 14" vs 15"
  41695. MIME-Version: 1.0
  41696. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  41697. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  41698.  
  41699. Dnia 27-Mar-98, Marcin Orlowski napisal:
  41700.  
  41701. > Tryb wy=B6w.: DBLPAL:High Res No Flicker, 256 Kolor=F3w
  41702. > ----------------------------------------
  41703. > Punkty            190798
  41704. > Linie             628
  41705. > Rys. poz./pion.   936
  41706. > Okr=EAgi            957
  41707. > Rysuj elipsy      862
  41708. > Prostok=B1t=F3w       25
  41709. > Wype=B3nianie       27
  41710. > ----------------------------------------
  41711. > =
  41712.  
  41713. > Tryb wy=B6w.: PAL:High Res Laced, 256 Kolor=F3w
  41714. > ----------------------------------------
  41715. > Punkty            414496
  41716. > Linie             1178
  41717. > Rys. poz./pion.   2042
  41718. > Okr=EAgi            2126
  41719. > Rysuj elipsy      1921
  41720. > Prostok=B1t=F3w       54
  41721. > Wype=B3nianie       63
  41722. > ----------------------------------------
  41723. > =
  41724.  
  41725. > Mam nadziej=EA, =BFe chocia=BF dzieli=E6 umiesz. ;-)
  41726.  
  41727. Oczywi=B6cie. Co prawda nie poda=B3e=B6 jakim programem uzyska=B3e=B6 tak=
  41728. ie wyniki,
  41729. niemniej nie uwa=BFam ich za nieprawdziwe. Jednak s=B1 one nieco "tendenc=
  41730. yjne"
  41731. bowiem dotycz=B1 trybu 256 kolor=F3w. W tym trybie ju=BF PAL wykorzystuje=
  41732.  
  41733. wi=EAkszo=B6=E6=A0 dost=EApnej przepustowo=B6ci szyny CHIP i dlatego DblP=
  41734. AL tak zwalnia.
  41735. Ja jednak przeprowadzi=B3em testy w 16 kolorach SysSpeedem 2.03 i wyniki =
  41736. by=B3y
  41737. nieco mniej niekorzystne dla DblPAL-a:
  41738.  
  41739.                    PAL HighResLaced  DblPAL HighResNoFilcker   PAL vs DBL=
  41740.  
  41741. -------------------------------------------------------------------------=
  41742. ---
  41743. PrintText               661                    553                 1.19
  41744. RectFill                475                    359                 1.40
  41745. DrawEllipse             168                    162                 1.04
  41746. WritePixel            18181                  17957                 1.01
  41747. HorizLines              275                    199                 1.38
  41748. VertLines               350                    266                 1.31
  41749. DiagonalLines           309                    236                 1.31
  41750. AreaEllipse             102                     93                 1.10
  41751. AreaFill                184                    140                 1.31
  41752.  
  41753. Warto zauwa=BFy=E6, =BFe funkcje nie korzystaj=B1ce z blittera (np WriteP=
  41754. ixel, czy
  41755. DrawEllipse) zwalniaj=B1 w minimalnym stopniu, dopiero blitter powoduje
  41756. przytkanie szyny. Reasumuj=B1c - niew=B1tpliwie DblPAL jest wolniejszy od=
  41757.  PAL-a,
  41758. ale wcale niekoniecznie dwa razy. Swoj=B1 drog=B1, ciekawe, czy PAL +
  41759. scandoubler jest tak samo szybki jak bez. Na ile znam zasad=EA dzia=B3ani=
  41760. a
  41761. scandoublera to tak, wtedy mamy tani (no powiedzmy ;-) spos=F3b przyspies=
  41762. zenia
  41763. grafiki.
  41764.  
  41765. > Tacy co lubi=B1=A0[-]95 te=BF pono=E6 istniej=B1. ;-)
  41766.  
  41767. A co ma piernik do wiatraka? Czy fakt, =BFe chc=EA mie=E6 kolorowy Workbe=
  41768. nch,
  41769. nawet kosztem niewielkiego zwolnienia grafiki uprawnia do robienia cienki=
  41770. ch
  41771. aluzji z [-] 95 w roli g=B3=F3wnej pod adresem mojej osoby ;-)? Znam ludz=
  41772. i
  41773. pracuj=B1cych nawet na 64 kolorach (cho=E6 to ju=BF nawet dla mnie nieco =
  41774. za wolno,
  41775. poza tym pami=EA=E6 CHIP niestety nie jest z gumy).
  41776.  =
  41777.  
  41778. Krashan.
  41779.  
  41780. -- =
  41781.  
  41782. Grzegorz Kraszewski
  41783. on the scene Krashan/BlaBla
  41784. krashan@cksr.ac.bialystok.pl   to 1-Jul-1998
  41785. Amiga1200/030@50/10MB/HDD/CD/33.6kbps
  41786.  
  41787. BLABLA - IT MEANS SYSTEM FRIENDLY
  41788. ---------------------------------
  41789.  
  41790. From owner-amigapl  Mon Mar 30 19:43:35 1998
  41791. Received: from server.fiber.net.pl (server.fiber.net.pl [195.117.208.101]) by amiga.com.pl (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA01870 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 19:24:20 +0200 (CEST)
  41792. Received: from zskl.p.lodz.pl ([194.181.171.3]) by server.fiber.net.pl
  41793.           (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with ESMTP id AAA25312
  41794.           for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 18:24:13 +0100
  41795. Received: from amiga (krashan@pppa22.bialystok.tpnet.pl [194.204.183.22]) by zskl.p.lodz.pl (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA09446 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 19:18:14 +0200
  41796. From: Grzegorz Kraszewski <krashan@amiga.org.pl>
  41797. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  41798. Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 12:18:23 +0100
  41799. Message-ID: <yam7393.1183.2016797656@zskl.p.lodz.pl>
  41800. In-Reply-To: <01bd5965$e794cea0$fdfefe01@mk>
  41801. X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview3 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
  41802. Organization: BlaBla
  41803. Subject: Re[4]: Jak wymusic deklaracje zmiennych w CHIP RAM
  41804. MIME-Version: 1.0
  41805. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  41806. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  41807.  
  41808. Dnia 27-Mar-98, Wojciech Kocjan napisal:
  41809.  
  41810. > potrzebuj=EA mie=E6 bitplany po sobie (jako jeden blok pami=EAci). Tego=
  41811.  chyba
  41812. > AllocBitMap() nie zrobi.
  41813.  
  41814. Zrobi, trzeba tylko podac BMF_INTERLEAVED.
  41815.  
  41816. Krashan
  41817.  =
  41818.  
  41819. -- =
  41820.  
  41821. Grzegorz Kraszewski
  41822. on the scene Krashan/BlaBla
  41823. krashan@cksr.ac.bialystok.pl   to 1-Jul-1998
  41824. Amiga1200/030@50/10MB/HDD/CD/33.6kbps
  41825.  
  41826. BLABLA - IT MEANS SYSTEM FRIENDLY
  41827. ---------------------------------
  41828.  
  41829. From owner-amigapl  Mon Mar 30 19:43:44 1998
  41830. Received: from server.fiber.net.pl (server.fiber.net.pl [195.117.208.101]) by amiga.com.pl (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA01881 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 19:24:54 +0200 (CEST)
  41831. Received: from zskl.p.lodz.pl ([194.181.171.3]) by server.fiber.net.pl
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  41833.           for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 18:24:48 +0100
  41834. Received: from amiga (krashan@pppa22.bialystok.tpnet.pl [194.204.183.22]) by zskl.p.lodz.pl (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA09502 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 19:18:49 +0200
  41835. From: Grzegorz Kraszewski <krashan@amiga.org.pl>
  41836. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  41837. Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 05:57:55 +0100
  41838. Message-ID: <yam7390.2753.2017353648@zskl.p.lodz.pl>
  41839. In-Reply-To: <yam7389.1415.1747630816@kki.net.pl>
  41840. X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview3 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
  41841. Organization: BlaBla
  41842. Subject: Re[4]: 4xIDE
  41843. MIME-Version: 1.0
  41844. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  41845. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  41846.  
  41847. Dnia 26-Mar-98, Adam Majewski napisal:
  41848.  
  41849. > A wg mnie jest to wina softu, ale nie chc=EA si=EA k=B3uci=E6 (skoro u =
  41850. ciebie
  41851. > zgrywa). Ja pracowa=B3em z atapi.device ponad rok i U MNIE
  41852. > nie chcia=B3a zgrywa=E6. By=E6 mo=BFe masz nowsz=B1 wersj=EA albo co in=
  41853. nego :)
  41854.  
  41855. W pierwszej kolejno=B6ci jest to sprawa nap=EAdu. Mo=BFliwo=B6=E6 zgrywan=
  41856. ia track=F3w
  41857. jest nieudokumentowanym rozszerzeniem standardu ATAPI. M=F3j znajomy mia=B3=
  41858.  
  41859. swego czasu jakie=B6 Sony 2x i zgrywa=B3 przy a1200_atapi.device. Z kolei=
  41860.  na
  41861. moim Mitsumi FX-400E =BFadne device nie pomo=BFe - nie dzia=B3a i ju=BF :=
  41862. -(.
  41863.  
  41864. Krashan
  41865.  =
  41866.  
  41867. -- =
  41868.  
  41869. Grzegorz Kraszewski
  41870. on the scene Krashan/BlaBla
  41871. krashan@cksr.ac.bialystok.pl   to 1-Jul-1998
  41872. Amiga1200/030@50/10MB/HDD/CD/33.6kbps
  41873.  
  41874. BLABLA - IT MEANS SYSTEM FRIENDLY
  41875. ---------------------------------
  41876.  
  41877. From owner-amigapl  Mon Mar 30 20:43:35 1998
  41878. Received: from iftia6.univ.gda.pl (iftia6.univ.gda.pl [153.19.6.6]) by amiga.com.pl (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA02076 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 20:33:54 +0200 (CEST)
  41879. Received: from ppp178b.gdansk.tpnet.pl by iftia6.univ.gda.pl with SMTP
  41880.     (1.38.193.4/16.2) id AA22707; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 20:45:11 +0200
  41881. From: Marcin Ostrowski <amizaur@box43.gnet.pl>
  41882. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  41883. Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 19:29:41 +0100
  41884. Message-Id: <yam7393.2070.3924432@iftia6.univ.gda.pl>
  41885. In-Reply-To: <347.389T2495T13982859@panda.bg.univ.gda.pl>
  41886. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  41887. Subject: Re: Sprzedam blizzka IV
  41888. Mime-Version: 1.0
  41889. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  41890. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  41891.  
  41892. Dnia 26-Mar-98, Maciej Gajewski napisa=EE:
  41893. >Dnia 25-Mar-98    17:42:02, At0m napisa=B3:
  41894.  
  41895. >>W zwiazku z zakupem karty PPC mam do sprzedania
  41896. >>karte *Blizzard IV 030/50Mhz z koprocem* za powiedzmy 400 z=B3
  41897. >>Dla os=F3b z poza tr=F3jmiasta dojd=B1 jeszcze koszty przesy=B3ki.
  41898.  
  41899. >Ja to samo, z tym =BFe dla os=F3b z Tr=F3jmiasta *DOSTAWA DO DOMU* ;D
  41900.  
  41901. Masz jeszcze tego Blizzka? Ile za niego chcesz? Czy on jest
  41902. z koprocem 50Mhz czy innym, i w jakiej podstawce (PGA, PLCC?)
  41903. Na razie negocjuje BlizkaIV bez koproca za 250zl, jak nie wyjdzie
  41904. (to dosc daleko) to jestem powaznie zainteresowany Twoim.
  41905.  
  41906. Na razie!
  41907.  
  41908. P.S. Jutro (wtorek) rano wyjezdzam na pare dni, wiec jak mozesz =
  41909.  
  41910.      to odpisz dzis wieczorem lub jutro rano, to jeszcze zdaze =
  41911.  
  41912.      przeczytac. =
  41913.  
  41914. -- =
  41915.  
  41916.  
  41917.                              Marcin Ostrowski
  41918.                        A1200/030/882/28/10Mb/170Mb
  41919.                           High-Radiation C1085S
  41920.                                modem 28800
  41921.  
  41922.  
  41923.                                     mailto:amizaur@box43.gnet.pl
  41924.  
  41925. From owner-amigapl  Mon Mar 30 20:43:42 1998
  41926. Received: from tryton.kaszub.top.pl (root@tryton.kaszub.top.pl [195.116.50.3]) by amiga.com.pl (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA02059 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 20:29:43 +0200 (CEST)
  41927. Received: from key.net.pl (cerber@modem4 [195.116.50.14])
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  41929.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 20:28:52 +0200
  41930. From: Piotr =?iso-8859-2?Q?Ka=BCmierczak?= <cerber@key.net.pl>
  41931. To: Lista AmigaPL WFMH <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  41932. Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 13:39:54 -0000
  41933. Message-ID: <yam7393.2712.125807144@195.116.50.3>
  41934. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  41935. Organization: Appendix
  41936. Subject: MCP -> =?iso-8859-2?Q?Ma=B3y?= Szok ;)
  41937. MIME-Version: 1.0
  41938. X-ISO-CONVERTED: Yam_ISO2 1.06 (17.11.97) (c) Silver Dream !
  41939. X-YAMISO-UPDATE: ftp://wfmh.org.pl/pub/yam_iso2/
  41940. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  41941. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  41942.  
  41943. Witam.
  41944.  
  41945. Zdarzy=B3a mi si=EA dzisiaj przedziwna historia. Bawi=B3em si=EA troszk=EA=
  41946.  MCP i
  41947. zauwa=BFy=B3em, =BFe po uruchomieniu zwalnia zajmowany task. Wcze=B6niej =
  41948.  
  41949. uruchamia=B3em MCP z User-StartUp z komend=B1 Run. Maj=B1c na uwadze powy=
  41950. =BFsze
  41951. wyrzuci=B3em z US komend=EA Run zostawiaj=B1c same MCP. Po reboocie zauwa=
  41952. =BFy=B3em,
  41953. =BFe system wczytuje si=EA widocznie wolniej. Po za=B3adowaniu zauwa=BFy=B3=
  41954. em, =BFe
  41955. ilo=B6=E6 Chpiu z 2MB zmniejszy=B3a si=EA do 400kb! Szok! Kombinajce robi=
  41956. =B3em r=F3=BFne
  41957. i dopiero po ponownym dodaniu w US komendy Run wszystko por=F3ci=B3o do n=
  41958. ormy!
  41959. Co to?! :))
  41960.  
  41961. -- =
  41962.  
  41963. Kemo Sabay!
  41964.  
  41965. Piotr Kazmierczak          cERBEr of aPPENDIx                  ICQ: 46915=
  41966. 17
  41967. cerber@key.net.pl          http://www.key.net.pl/~cerber       Team AMIGA=
  41968.  
  41969. cerber@airi.plukwa.pdi.net Amiga Integrated Regsite Initiative FidoNet:
  41970. A3000T/030/CV643D/14MB     Radioactive BBS 058-6216107         2:481/60.3=
  41971.  
  41972.  
  41973. From owner-amigapl  Mon Mar 30 20:43:50 1998
  41974. Received: from tryton.kaszub.top.pl (root@tryton.kaszub.top.pl [195.116.50.3]) by amiga.com.pl (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA02054 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 20:29:28 +0200 (CEST)
  41975. Received: from key.net.pl (cerber@modem4 [195.116.50.14])
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  41977.     Mon, 30 Mar 1998 20:28:31 +0200
  41978. From: Piotr =?iso-8859-2?Q?Ka=BCmierczak?= <cerber@key.net.pl>
  41979. To: Lista Amiga <amiga@PLEARN.EDU.PL>,
  41980.         Lista AmigaPL WFMH <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  41981. Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 13:52:35 -0000
  41982. Message-ID: <yam7393.1780.125807144@195.116.50.3>
  41983. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  41984. Organization: Appendix
  41985. Subject: AIRI - Nowe =?iso-8859-2?Q?Szer=B3ery!?=
  41986. MIME-Version: 1.0
  41987. X-ISO-CONVERTED: Yam_ISO2 1.06 (17.11.97) (c) Silver Dream !
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  41991.  
  41992. Witam!
  41993.  
  41994. W imieniu AIRI wnosz=EA na list=EA takie niusy:
  41995.  
  41996. 1. Miami w ostatniej wersji (chyba 3.0) za 27$ USA przy czym zgodnie z
  41997. umow=B1 z autorem musi si=EA zebra=E6 min. 10 rejestracji. Na prze=B3omie=
  41998.  kwietnia
  41999. i maja ma si=EA pojawi=E6 MiamiPPC ;) Cena dla reszty =B6wiata 35$. Wiem,=
  42000.  =BFe
  42001. tutaj zni=BFka jest =B6mieszna, ale nic wi=EAcej si=EA nie da=B3o... ;(
  42002.  
  42003. 2. CyberShowPro w wersji 9.0! oraz PhotoAlbum 4.0! (nie ma jeszcze tego
  42004. nigdzie! Specjalnie dla nas!) za 25DM niemieckich za pakiet. Nie ma =
  42005.  
  42006. mo=BFliwo=B6ci kupna osobno - tylko komplecik. Cena normalna 50DM.
  42007.  
  42008. 3. WebTV w ostatniej wersji (chuba 2.1) za 8$! Cena dla =B6miertelnik=F3w=
  42009.  15$.
  42010.  
  42011. W razie jakby co to do mnie, a jak chcecie poczyta=E6 to zapraszam na:
  42012. http://airi.plukwa.pdi.net.
  42013.  
  42014. -- =
  42015.  
  42016. Kemo Sabay!
  42017.  
  42018. Piotr Kazmierczak          cERBEr of aPPENDIx                  ICQ: 46915=
  42019. 17
  42020. cerber@key.net.pl          http://www.key.net.pl/~cerber       Team AMIGA=
  42021.  
  42022. cerber@airi.plukwa.pdi.net Amiga Integrated Regsite Initiative FidoNet:
  42023. A3000T/030/CV643D/14MB     Radioactive BBS 058-6216107         2:481/60.3=
  42024.  
  42025.  
  42026. From owner-amigapl  Mon Mar 30 21:23:36 1998
  42027. Received: from gryzmak.lodz.pdi.net (gryzmak.lodz.pdi.net [195.116.162.1]) by amiga.com.pl (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA02192 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 21:11:19 +0200 (CEST)
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  42030.     Mon, 30 Mar 1998 21:09:16 +0200
  42031. Message-ID: <19980330210916.46708@plukwa.pdi.net>
  42032. Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 21:09:16 +0200
  42033. From: Artur Pietruk <arturp@plukwa.pdi.net>
  42034. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  42035. Subject: Re: Re[2]: Odp: 14" vs 15"
  42036. References: <yam7390.1334.143067096@www.szczecin.tpnet.pl> <yam7393.1224.2015837024@zskl.p.lodz.pl>
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  42041. In-Reply-To: <yam7393.1224.2015837024@zskl.p.lodz.pl>; from Grzegorz Kraszewski on Mon, Mar 30, 1998 at 12:59:24PM +0100
  42042.  
  42043. On Mon, Mar 30, 1998 at 12:59:24PM +0100, Grzegorz Kraszewski wrote:
  42044. > ale wcale niekoniecznie dwa razy. Swoj± drog±, ciekawe, czy PAL +
  42045. > scandoubler jest tak samo szybki jak bez. Na ile znam zasadê dzia³ania
  42046. > scandoublera to tak, wtedy mamy tani (no powiedzmy ;-) sposób przyspieszenia
  42047. > grafiki.
  42048.  
  42049.     No wlasnie, powiedzmy ;-). Przeciez za podwojna cene scandoublera
  42050. mozna kupic juz karte graficzna, a mozna przeciez kupic jeszcze taniej
  42051. jakas starsza, uzywana ;-) A to zawsze bedzie szybciej niz aga ;-)
  42052.  
  42053.     Pozdrawia:
  42054.  
  42055. -- 
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  42063.                 "My webpage exists - I've seen it!"
  42064. From owner-amigapl  Mon Mar 30 21:43:41 1998
  42065. Received: from www.kki.net.pl (www.kki.net.pl [195.116.9.70]) by amiga.com.pl (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA02230 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 21:36:44 +0200 (CEST)
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  42069. From: Adam Majewski <akmmaya@kki.net.pl>
  42070. Reply-To: akmmaya@kki.net.pl
  42071. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  42072. Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 20:12:18 +0100
  42073. Message-ID: <yam7393.946.1750710704@kki.net.pl>
  42074. In-Reply-To: <yam7390.2562.139262880@fiber.net.pl>
  42075. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  42076. Subject: Re: DOpus
  42077. MIME-Version: 1.0
  42078. X-ISO-CONVERTED: Yam_ISO2 1.06 (17.11.97) (c) Silver Dream !
  42079. X-YAMISO-UPDATE: ftp://wfmh.org.pl/pub/yam_iso2/
  42080. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
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  42082.  
  42083. Dnia 27-Mar-98, Miloslaw Smyk napisa=B3:
  42084.  
  42085. >Dnia 27-Mar-98, Adam Majewski rzek=B3 co nast=EApuje:
  42086.  
  42087. >> Je=B6li kto=B6 wie jak ustawi=E6, aby ConfigOpus otwiera=B3 si=EA
  42088. >> w okienku na ekranie WB to niech da zna=E6.
  42089.  
  42090. >Musisz mie=E6 wi=EAcej kolor=F3w na ekranie WB ni=BF masz w tej chwili.
  42091.  
  42092. Znaczy si=EA 64 albo wi=EAcej, TO DZIA=A3A !!!!
  42093. Dzi=EAki
  42094.  
  42095. -- =
  42096.  
  42097. Pozdrawiam :-)
  42098.  
  42099. mailto: akmmaya@kki.net.pl
  42100. www: http://www.kki.net.pl/akmmaya
  42101.  
  42102. :-)  w=F3wren  eibos  juCP  ein  (-:
  42103.                                                            Adam Majewski
  42104.  
  42105. From owner-amigapl  Mon Mar 30 22:23:37 1998
  42106. Received: from opnt.optimus.wroc.pl (opnt.optimus.wroc.pl [195.117.195.3]) by amiga.com.pl (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA02334 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 22:15:34 +0200 (CEST)
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  42109.  Mon, 30 Mar 1998 22:14:29 +0200
  42110. From: Maciej Matyka <maq@opnt.optimus.wroc.pl>
  42111. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  42112. Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 22:10:41 +0100
  42113. Message-ID: <yam7393.2075.2014577376@opnt.optimus.wroc.pl>
  42114. In-Reply-To: <yam7393.143.144104728@fiber.net.pl>
  42115. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  42116. Subject: Re: Jak wymusic deklaracje zmiennych w CHIP RAM
  42117. MIME-Version: 1.0
  42118. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
  42119. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  42120.  
  42121. Dnia 30-Mar-98, Miloslaw Smyk napisal(a):
  42122. >Dnia 30-Mar-98, Maciej Matyka rzek=B3 co nast=EApuje:
  42123. >> Dnia 29-Mar-98, Wojciech Kocjan napisal(a):
  42124.  
  42125. >> To Ty ja chyba w C napisales, zgadlem? Wiesz, w przypadku c2p bez asma=
  42126.  sie
  42127. >nie
  42128. >> obejdziesz.
  42129.  
  42130. >Niezupe=B3nie. Ch=B3opcy z VenusArt maj=B1 bardzo szybkie c2p w C. Ale m=
  42131. o=BFe sami
  42132. >co=B6 napisz=B1 na ten temat...
  42133.  
  42134. Chlopaki z VenusArt nie uzywaja procedur c2p napisanych w C. Maja swoje w=
  42135.  
  42136. asmie i to b.szybkie. Ooo wlasnie sobie ogladam ich ostatnia procke i w c=
  42137. zym?
  42138. W asmie... Tak tak, gdyby wszystko pisane bylo przez nich w C ich dema by=
  42139. lyby
  42140. wolniejsze niz (IMHO) sa...
  42141.  
  42142. >? A jesli nie masz nic przeciwko uzyciu asma w swoim formacie,
  42143. >> proponuje publiczne zrodla Kalmsa (Scout) - jest nawet zrodlo, ktore n=
  42144. a
  42145. >> 030.50Mhz przeprowadza c2p 320*256/8bit w 1 ramce.
  42146.  
  42147. >W okienku? :)
  42148.  
  42149. A w czym problem? Jako wynik dzialania procedury c2p dostajesz plany, a g=
  42150. dzie
  42151. je wyswietlisz - to juz Twoja sprawa. C2p to TYLKO zamiana z buforu chunk=
  42152. y na
  42153. bitplany (a bitplany AFAIK mozna podczepic do okienka? :)
  42154.  
  42155. -- =
  42156.  
  42157. MaQ                                   mail: maq@opnt.optimus.wroc.pl
  42158.  
  42159. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 31 01:43:35 1998
  42160. Received: from server.fiber.net.pl (server.fiber.net.pl [195.117.208.101]) by amiga.com.pl (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA02761 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 01:26:52 +0200 (CEST)
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  42164.           Tue, 31 Mar 1998 00:26:43 +0100
  42165. From: Miloslaw Smyk <thorgal@amiga.com.pl>
  42166. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  42167. Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 01:05:08 +0100
  42168. Message-ID: <yam7394.438.139295120@fiber.net.pl>
  42169. In-Reply-To: <yam7391.2753.5958968@zskl.p.lodz.pl>
  42170. X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview3 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
  42171. Organization: W.F.M.H.
  42172. Subject: Re: Pare spraw
  42173. MIME-Version: 1.0
  42174. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  42175. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  42176.  
  42177. Dnia 28-Mar-98, Grzegorz Kraszewski rzek=B3 co nast=EApuje:
  42178.  
  42179. >> MUIM_HandleInput lecz raczej z MUIM_HandleEvent - vide Autodoc
  42180. >> Window.mui/MUIM_Window_AddEventHandler, sekcja NOTES.
  42181. > =
  42182.  
  42183. > W kt=F3rej wersji muidev s=B1 opisane te metody?
  42184.  
  42185. W 3.8 s=B1. Wcze=B6niejszych nie sprawdza=B3em.
  42186.  
  42187. Mi=B3ek
  42188. -- =
  42189.  
  42190. mailto:thorgal@amiga.com.pl   |  "Man in the Moon and other weird things"=
  42191.  -
  42192. http://wfmh.org.pl/~thorgal/  |  see it at http://wfmh.org.pl/~thorgal/Mo=
  42193. on/
  42194.  
  42195. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 31 01:43:43 1998
  42196. Received: from server.fiber.net.pl (server.fiber.net.pl [195.117.208.101]) by amiga.com.pl (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA02755 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 01:26:47 +0200 (CEST)
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  42200.           Tue, 31 Mar 1998 00:26:38 +0100
  42201. From: Miloslaw Smyk <thorgal@amiga.com.pl>
  42202. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  42203. Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 00:58:36 +0100
  42204. Message-ID: <yam7394.1806.139295120@fiber.net.pl>
  42205. In-Reply-To: <yam7393.1183.2016797656@zskl.p.lodz.pl>
  42206. X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview3 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
  42207. Organization: W.F.M.H.
  42208. Subject: Re: Jak wymusic deklaracje zmiennych w CHIP RAM
  42209. MIME-Version: 1.0
  42210. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  42211. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  42212.  
  42213. Dnia 30-Mar-98, Grzegorz Kraszewski rzek=B3 co nast=EApuje:
  42214. > Dnia 27-Mar-98, Wojciech Kocjan napisal:
  42215. > =
  42216.  
  42217. >> potrzebuj=EA mie=E6 bitplany po sobie (jako jeden blok pami=EAci). Teg=
  42218. o chyba
  42219. >> AllocBitMap() nie zrobi.
  42220. > =
  42221.  
  42222. > Zrobi, trzeba tylko podac BMF_INTERLEAVED.
  42223.  
  42224. Wojtkowi zdaje si=EA chodzi o ustawienie: najpierw jeden, potem drugi itd=
  42225. =2E
  42226.  
  42227. Mi=B3ek
  42228. -- =
  42229.  
  42230. mailto:thorgal@amiga.com.pl   |  "Man in the Moon and other weird things"=
  42231.  -
  42232. http://wfmh.org.pl/~thorgal/  |  see it at http://wfmh.org.pl/~thorgal/Mo=
  42233. on/
  42234.  
  42235. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 31 01:43:51 1998
  42236. Received: from server.fiber.net.pl (server.fiber.net.pl [195.117.208.101]) by amiga.com.pl (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA02759 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 01:26:50 +0200 (CEST)
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  42240.           Tue, 31 Mar 1998 00:26:41 +0100
  42241. From: Miloslaw Smyk <thorgal@amiga.com.pl>
  42242. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  42243. Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 01:04:20 +0100
  42244. Message-ID: <yam7394.1032.139295120@fiber.net.pl>
  42245. In-Reply-To: <yam7393.2075.2014577376@opnt.optimus.wroc.pl>
  42246. X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview3 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
  42247. Organization: W.F.M.H.
  42248. Subject: Re: Jak wymusic deklaracje zmiennych w CHIP RAM
  42249. MIME-Version: 1.0
  42250. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  42251. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  42252.  
  42253. Dnia 30-Mar-98, Maciej Matyka rzek=B3 co nast=EApuje:
  42254.  
  42255. >> Niezupe=B3nie. Ch=B3opcy z VenusArt maj=B1 bardzo szybkie c2p w C. Ale=
  42256.  mo=BFe
  42257. sami
  42258. >> co=B6 napisz=B1 na ten temat...
  42259. > =
  42260.  
  42261. > Chlopaki z VenusArt nie uzywaja procedur c2p napisanych w C. Maja swoje=
  42262.  w
  42263.  
  42264. Nie napisa=B3em, =BFe u=BFywaj=B1. Napisa=B3em, =BFe "maj=B1 bardzo szybk=
  42265. ie c2p w C".
  42266.  
  42267.  
  42268. >> W okienku? :)
  42269. > =
  42270.  
  42271. > A w czym problem? Jako wynik dzialania procedury c2p dostajesz plany, a=
  42272.  
  42273. gdzie
  42274. > je wyswietlisz - to juz Twoja sprawa. C2p to TYLKO zamiana z buforu chu=
  42275. nky
  42276. na
  42277. > bitplany (a bitplany AFAIK mozna podczepic do okienka? :)
  42278.  
  42279. Podczepi=E6? Musisz _skopiowa=E6_ do okna to co wyplu=B3o c2p, czyli wyko=
  42280. na=E6
  42281. dodatkowo ca=B3=B1 mas=EA dost=EAp=F3w do pami=EAci. Lepiej u=BFy=E6 Writ=
  42282. ePixelArray8()
  42283. zapatchowanego przez NewWPA8 z Aminetu. Fakt, =BFe tylko w przypadku okie=
  42284. nek.
  42285.  
  42286. Mi=B3ek =
  42287.  
  42288. -- =
  42289.  
  42290. mailto:thorgal@amiga.com.pl   |  "Man in the Moon and other weird things"=
  42291.  -
  42292. http://wfmh.org.pl/~thorgal/  |  see it at http://wfmh.org.pl/~thorgal/Mo=
  42293. on/
  42294.  
  42295. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 31 01:43:59 1998
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  42300.           Tue, 31 Mar 1998 00:26:51 +0100
  42301. From: Miloslaw Smyk <thorgal@amiga.com.pl>
  42302. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  42303. Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 01:23:51 +0100
  42304. Message-ID: <yam7394.2570.139295120@fiber.net.pl>
  42305. In-Reply-To: <yam7391.813.1748499624@host.pkp.wroc.pl>
  42306. X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview3 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
  42307. Organization: W.F.M.H.
  42308. Subject: Re: Magix
  42309. MIME-Version: 1.0
  42310. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  42311. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  42312.  
  42313. Cze=B6=E6,
  42314.  
  42315. Dnia 28-Mar-98, Piotr Walaszek rzek=B3 co nast=EApuje:
  42316. > Dnia 25-Mar-98, Miloslaw Smyk napisa=B3:
  42317. > =
  42318.  
  42319. >> Jest. Nazywa si=EA SoundTracker, a autorem jest bodaj=BFe Karsten Obar=
  42320. ski. :)
  42321. >> Cho=E6 DigiBooster lepszy.
  42322. >> Wszystko to mo=BFe mniej "multimedialne" od programu z PC, ale o ile=BF=
  42323.  
  42324. bardziej
  42325. >> praktyczne.
  42326. > =
  42327.  
  42328. > Widz=EA, =BFe nie poj=B1=B3e=B6 o co chodzi - chodzi o bardzo d=B3ugie =
  42329. sample (np.
  42330. 100MB),
  42331. > widzia=B3em (a raczej s=B3ysza=B3em) co=B6 takiego u kolegi. Mo=BFna od=
  42332. twarza=E6 par=EA
  42333. > takich sampelk=F3w i przy okazji pozmienia=E6 troch=EA parametry ka=BFd=
  42334. ego.
  42335.  
  42336. Tygrysku! Nie jestem Nied=BCwiadkiem O Bardzo Ma=B3ym Rozumku i wnet poj=B1=
  42337. =B3em o
  42338. co Ci chodzi. ;) DigiBooster potrafi odtwarza=E6 "bardzo d=B3ugie sample"=
  42339.  - do
  42340. 16MB. Jest to co prawda mniej ni=BF niezb=EAdne Ci 100MB, ale przecie=BF =
  42341. 100MB
  42342. nawet na 44.1KHz i w 16 bitach stereo to bite 10 minut muzyki - a niewiel=
  42343. u
  42344. jest =B6mia=B3k=F3w, kt=F3rzy miksuj=B1 z u=BFyciem 10-minutowych sampli.=
  42345.  
  42346.  
  42347. DB pozwoli Ci r=F3wnie=BF odtwarza=E6 par=EA (128) takich sampelk=F3w i (=
  42348. tak!) przy
  42349. okazji pozmienia=E6 troch=EA parametry ka=BFdego.
  42350.  
  42351.  
  42352. A je=B6li ju=BF koniecznie musisz te sample widzie=E6, spr=F3buj AudioLab=
  42353. a.
  42354.  
  42355. > Skaza =BFyje !
  42356. Gdzie?
  42357.  
  42358. Mi=B3ek
  42359. -- =
  42360.  
  42361. mailto:thorgal@amiga.com.pl   |  "Man in the Moon and other weird things"=
  42362.  -
  42363. http://wfmh.org.pl/~thorgal/  |  see it at http://wfmh.org.pl/~thorgal/Mo=
  42364. on/
  42365.  
  42366. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 31 02:43:36 1998
  42367. Received: from dns1.supermedia.pl (dns1.supermedia.pl [195.116.124.17]) by amiga.com.pl (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA04504 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 02:36:51 +0200 (CEST)
  42368. Received: from ppp3-cst252.warszawa.tpnet.pl (ppp3-cst252.warszawa.tpnet.pl [195.116.251.252]) by dns1.supermedia.pl (NTMail 3.03.0014/4c.aamn) with ESMTP id ha471933 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 02:32:58 +0200
  42369. From: Peter Drapich <docent@union.org.pl>
  42370. Reply-To: docent@union.org.pl
  42371. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  42372. Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 02:37:51 +0100
  42373. Message-ID: <yam7394.2582.131523168@mail.supermedia.pl>
  42374. In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.3.95.980328160959.29383B-100000@student>
  42375. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  42376. Organization: Union Systems
  42377. Subject: Re: animacje
  42378. MIME-Version: 1.0
  42379. Content-Type: text/plain
  42380.  
  42381. On 28-Mar-98, Grzegorz Junka wrote:
  42382. >> >Czy moglby mi ktos polecic jakies playery najzwyklejszych animacji iff
  42383. >> >ktore moglyby odtwarzac animacje z dysku, poza VT?
  42384. >> 
  42385. >> BigAnim40.lha (gfx/show).
  42386. >Juz wiem, dlaczego biganim mi nie odpowiadal! Wyswietla on animacje tylko
  42387. >w palu. Nie mozna mu wlaczyc wyswietlania w multiscanie. Visage i VT to
  42388. >potrafia, ale vt sie wiesza a visage nie odtwarza z dysku. Sa jeszcze
  42389. >jakies mozliwosci?
  42390.  
  42391. Moge ci podeslac moj player - czyta z dysku. Co prawda nie jest dopracowany,
  42392. ale dziala.
  42393.  
  42394. Docent
  42395. --
  42396. Backup not found!  (A)bort, (R)etry or P)anic?
  42397.  
  42398. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 31 03:23:36 1998
  42399. Received: from friko.onet.pl (friko.onet.pl [194.204.188.29] (may be forged)) by amiga.com.pl (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id DAA04556 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 03:15:20 +0200 (CEST)
  42400. Received: from friko.onet.pl (Michal@pppb119.szczecin.tpnet.pl [195.205.239.119])
  42401.           by friko.onet.pl (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP
  42402.       id CAA09337 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 02:13:25 +0200
  42403. From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Micha=EE?= Bujak <takeoff@friko.onet.pl>
  42404. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  42405. Date: Sun, 29 Mar 1998 21:37:00 -0500
  42406. Message-ID: <yam7392.16.137148320@friko.onet.pl>
  42407. In-Reply-To: <yam7391.2850.5958968@zskl.p.lodz.pl>
  42408. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.3a [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  42409. Subject: Re: CD-ROM
  42410. MIME-Version: 1.0
  42411. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
  42412. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  42413.  
  42414. Dnia 27-Mar-98, Grzegorz Kraszewski napisa=EE:
  42415. >Dnia 27-Mar-98, Roger Kolomlocki napisal:
  42416.  
  42417. >> Jaki CD-ROM ma na 100% mo=BFliwo=B6=E6 zgrywania track=F3w z p=B3ytki?=
  42418.   =
  42419.  
  42420.  
  42421. >Informuj=EA, =BFe Mitsumi FX-400E na pewno *nie umo=BFliwia.*
  42422. A udalo sie komus z Philipsem x8 ???
  42423.  
  42424. M.B.
  42425.  
  42426. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 31 05:43:36 1998
  42427. Received: from zskl.p.lodz.pl (root@zskl.p.lodz.pl [194.181.171.3]) by amiga.com.pl (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id FAA04651 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 05:32:35 +0200 (CEST)
  42428. Received: from amiga (krashan@pppa37.bialystok.tpnet.pl [194.204.183.37]) by zskl.p.lodz.pl (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id FAA11746 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 05:31:17 +0200
  42429. From: Grzegorz Kraszewski <krashan@amiga.org.pl>
  42430. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  42431. Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 20:22:47 +0100
  42432. Message-ID: <yam7393.2389.2017475112@zskl.p.lodz.pl>
  42433. In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.3.95.980329123641.9589A-100000@student>
  42434. X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview3 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
  42435. Organization: BlaBla
  42436. Subject: Re: mui
  42437. MIME-Version: 1.0
  42438. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  42439. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  42440.  
  42441. Dnia 29-Mar-98, Grzegorz Junka napisal:
  42442.  
  42443. > pracowal, zanim sie zwiesil. Jesli nie jest to wina MUI, to czy w takim=
  42444.  
  42445. > razie jest to jakis blad programow korzystajacych z MUI, i tym samym ja=
  42446. kis
  42447. > popularny blad programistow piszacych w MUI?
  42448.  
  42449. Ja bym raczej stawia=B3 na jakiego=B6 patcha w Twoim systemie. Nigdy taki=
  42450. ego
  42451. objawu nie widzia=B3em. Bo nie s=B1dz=EA, =BFeby MUI si=EA gryz=B3o z 040=
  42452.  :-) (sam mam
  42453. 030).
  42454.  
  42455. Krashan.
  42456.  
  42457. -- =
  42458.  
  42459. Grzegorz Kraszewski                    =
  42460.  
  42461. on the scene Krashan/BlaBla
  42462. krashan@amiga.org.pl
  42463. Amiga1200/030@50/10MB/HDD/CD/33.6kbps
  42464.  
  42465. BLABLA - IT MEANS SYSTEM FRIENDLY
  42466. ---------------------------------
  42467.  
  42468. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 31 06:43:35 1998
  42469. Received: from friko.onet.pl (friko.onet.pl [194.204.188.29] (may be forged)) by amiga.com.pl (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA04709 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 06:32:12 +0200 (CEST)
  42470. Received: from robert_n (ppp@[195.205.249.172])
  42471.           by friko.onet.pl (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP
  42472.       id FAA15668 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 05:30:08 +0200
  42473. From: Robert Nowak <robert_n@friko.onet.pl>
  42474. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  42475. Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 21:24:42 +0100
  42476. Message-ID: <yam7393.2135.2015087872@priv.onet.pl>
  42477. In-Reply-To: <199803281634.RAA24781@arka.mtl.pl>
  42478. X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview3 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
  42479. Subject: Amigowy =?iso-8859-1?Q?Wroc=EEaw,?= Poznan itd...
  42480. MIME-Version: 1.0
  42481. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  42482. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  42483.  
  42484.  
  42485. A mo=BFe by=B6my si=EA tak wszyscy spotkali podczas targ=F3w Infosystem w=
  42486.  Poznaniu?
  42487. B=EAd=B1 od 21 do 25 kwietnia (od wtorku do pi=B1tku).
  42488. Mog=B3o by to by=E6 ca=B3kiem spore spotkanie i przy okazji mo=BFna by co=
  42489.  nieco zobaczy=E6
  42490. na stoiskach (np pEcEty :( ....
  42491.  
  42492. Co o tym s=B1dzicie (proponuj=EA pierwszy dzie=F1 :) ?
  42493.  
  42494.      -------------------
  42495.   *     Robert Nowak* / *APG*
  42496.  
  42497.  E-Mail:     *robert_n@priv.onet.pl*
  42498.  WWW:     *http://friko.onet.pl/pi/amiga_pl*
  42499.  
  42500.    A-1200T/1.7GB/1230IV50/32MB Fast RAM.
  42501.  
  42502.  *_"Amiga is indestructible - Amiga is alive!"*_
  42503.  
  42504. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 31 06:43:43 1998
  42505. Received: from friko.onet.pl (friko.onet.pl [194.204.188.29] (may be forged)) by amiga.com.pl (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA04711 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 06:32:19 +0200 (CEST)
  42506. Received: from robert_n (ppp@[195.205.249.172])
  42507.           by friko.onet.pl (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP
  42508.       id FAA15673 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 05:30:16 +0200
  42509. From: Robert Nowak <robert_n@friko.onet.pl>
  42510. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  42511. Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 21:29:38 +0100
  42512. Message-ID: <yam7393.1929.2015087872@priv.onet.pl>
  42513. In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.3.95.980330000820.4727A-100000@student>
  42514. X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview3 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
  42515. Subject: Re: seagate
  42516. MIME-Version: 1.0
  42517. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  42518. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  42519.  
  42520. Cze=B6=E6!
  42521.  
  42522. > Czy mial ktos jakiejs niemile przejscia z Seagateami 1.1,1.3 lub 1.6GB?=
  42523.  
  42524. > Zastanawiam sie nad dyskiem ok. 1.3 Seagate lub Caviar. Poniewaz Caviar=
  42525. a
  42526. > mam, interesuja mnie doswiadczenia seagateowcow.
  42527.  
  42528. Mam Seagate 1.7 GB UltraDMA 2 i nie mam z nim =BFadnych problem=F3w (na m=
  42529. oim konfigu
  42530. wyci=B1ga 2.6 MB/s - pod SysInfo), no mo=BFe poza zbyt wolnym rozkr=EAcan=
  42531. iam si=EA
  42532. w momencie uruchomienia komputera - ale tylko czasami.
  42533. Mia=B3em tak=BFe do czynienia z dyskiem j.w. tylko 2.1 GB i tak=BFe nie b=
  42534. y=B3o k=B3opot=F3w.
  42535.  
  42536. Cze=B6=E6.
  42537.      -------------------
  42538.   *     Robert Nowak* / *APG*
  42539.  
  42540.  E-Mail:     *robert_n@priv.onet.pl*
  42541.  WWW:     *http://friko.onet.pl/pi/amiga_pl*
  42542.  
  42543.    A-1200T/1.7GB/1230IV50/32MB Fast RAM.
  42544.  
  42545.  *_"Amiga is indestructible - Amiga is alive!"*_
  42546.  
  42547. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 31 06:43:50 1998
  42548. Received: from friko.onet.pl (friko.onet.pl [194.204.188.29] (may be forged)) by amiga.com.pl (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA04713 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 06:32:22 +0200 (CEST)
  42549. Received: from robert_n (ppp@[195.205.249.172])
  42550.           by friko.onet.pl (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP
  42551.       id FAA15679 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 05:30:20 +0200
  42552. From: Robert Nowak <robert_n@friko.onet.pl>
  42553. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  42554. Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 21:30:49 +0100
  42555. Message-ID: <yam7393.2456.2015087872@priv.onet.pl>
  42556. In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.3.95.980329220034.386A-100000@student>
  42557. X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview3 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
  42558. Subject: Re: overscan
  42559. MIME-Version: 1.0
  42560. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  42561. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  42562.  
  42563. Cze=B6=E6 Grzegorz
  42564.  
  42565.  29-Mar-98 napisa=B3e=B6:
  42566.  
  42567. > =
  42568.  
  42569. > Uzywam MCP do promowania ekranu PAL LowRes 320x256 do Multiscan LowRes
  42570. > DblScan 320x240 i ustawiam jednoczesnie tag wysokosci na 256. Wszystko =
  42571. sie
  42572. > zgadza i chodzi, tylko ze... ekran widoczny jest 320x240, a linie 241-2=
  42573. 56
  42574. > sa schowane za dolna czarna ramka. Nie byloby w tym nic zlego, gdyby ni=
  42575. e
  42576. > to, ze po przesunieciu tam myszki chowa sie ona za czarna linie, i nawe=
  42577. t
  42578. > przy wlaczonym autoscroll ekran nie 'wyjezdza' do gory. Probowalem rozn=
  42579. e
  42580. > konfiguracje, zmienialem overscan i ani nie mozna zrobic tej czesci
  42581. > widocznej (np. w overscanie) ani nie mozna jej portraktowac jako virtua=
  42582. l i
  42583. > przesuwac myszka przy zjezdzaniu nia w dol. Czy ktos wie, co z tym zrob=
  42584. ic?
  42585.  
  42586. A pr=F3bowa=B3e=B6 MonEdem ? Czasami to pomaga :)
  42587.  
  42588.      -------------------
  42589.   *     Robert Nowak* / *APG*
  42590.  
  42591.  E-Mail:     *robert_n@priv.onet.pl*
  42592.  WWW:     *http://friko.onet.pl/pi/amiga_pl*
  42593.  
  42594.    A-1200T/1.7GB/1230IV50/32MB Fast RAM.
  42595.  
  42596.  *_"Amiga is indestructible - Amiga is alive!"*_
  42597.  
  42598. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 31 07:03:36 1998
  42599. Received: from friko.onet.pl (friko.onet.pl [194.204.188.29] (may be forged)) by amiga.com.pl (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA04741 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 07:02:24 +0200 (CEST)
  42600. Received: from friko.onet.pl (ppp117.zgora.tpnet.pl [195.116.244.117])
  42601.           by friko.onet.pl (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP
  42602.       id GAA16964 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 06:00:21 +0200
  42603. From: Irek <irekm@box43.gnet.pl>
  42604. Reply-To: irekm@box43.gnet.pl
  42605. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  42606. Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 09:25:36 -0500
  42607. Message-ID: <yam7393.1839.3300688@box43.gnet.pl>
  42608. In-Reply-To: <yam7390.641.33463016@friko2.onet.pl>
  42609. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.3a [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  42610. Subject: Re: Stacja HD a E/BOX
  42611. MIME-Version: 1.0
  42612. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  42613. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  42614.  
  42615. Dnia 27-Mar-98, Tomasz G=F3rniak napisa=EE:
  42616. Hej!
  42617.  
  42618. >chce czyta=E6 i formatowa=E6 dyskietek HD (chyba, =BFe stoi obok obudowy=
  42619. , wtedy
  42620. >wszystko jest w porz=B1dku). Czy kto=B6 mia=B3 podobne problemy, bo mimo=
  42621. , =BFe
  42622. >posiadam obudow=EA to i tak wszystko jest wybebeszone.
  42623. Ja kiedy=B6 mia=B3em co=B6 podobnego. Sprawd=BC co=B6 takiego: czy po prz=
  42624. ykr=EAceniu
  42625. stacji do obudowy nie robi si=EA zwora (ma=B3oprawdopodobne), a u mnie by=
  42626. =B3o
  42627. tak, =BFe po przykr=EAceniu stacji, te=BF nie chcia=B3a chodzi=E6 - probl=
  42628. em - za
  42629. mocne przykr=EAcenie stacji do obudowy :))) (mo=BFe to jest to, a jak nie=
  42630.  
  42631. to nie wiem :)
  42632.  
  42633. -- =
  42634.  
  42635. e-mail: irekm@friko.onet.pl      __
  42636. e-mail: irekm@kki.net.pl        // \   HTTP: on prepare
  42637. *Easy work?   - on Amiga*         \__          A1k2+850MB+4MB+CDx8+28800
  42638. *Best system? - on Amiga*            \
  42639. *BIG TROUBLE? - on PC...*         \_// NOWMAN - Amiga Fan 4ever !
  42640.  
  42641. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 31 08:23:59 1998
  42642. Received: from box43.gnet.pl (box43.gnet.pl [195.117.182.3]) by amiga.com.pl (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA04816 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 08:13:23 +0200 (CEST)
  42643. Received: from box43.gnet.pl (ppp61.zgora.tpnet.pl [195.116.244.61])
  42644.     by box43.gnet.pl (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA14061
  42645.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 08:12:29 +0200 (CEST)
  42646. From: Irek <irekm@box43.gnet.pl>
  42647. Reply-To: irekm@box43.gnet.pl
  42648. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  42649. Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 07:50:58 -0500
  42650. Message-ID: <yam7394.2923.2699056@box43.gnet.pl>
  42651. In-Reply-To: <19980330210916.46708@plukwa.pdi.net>
  42652. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.3a [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  42653. Subject: Re: Re[2]: Odp: 14" vs 15"
  42654. MIME-Version: 1.0
  42655. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  42656. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  42657.  
  42658. Dnia 30-Mar-98, Artur Pietruk napisa=EE:
  42659.  
  42660. >No wlasnie, powiedzmy ;-). Przeciez za podwojna cene scandoublera
  42661. >mozna kupic juz karte graficzna, a mozna przeciez kupic jeszcze taniej
  42662. >jakas starsza, uzywana ;-) A to zawsze bedzie szybciej niz aga ;-)
  42663.  
  42664. Taaak, wszystko jest fajnie, tylko dalej pozostaje problem nie
  42665. wypromowanych tryb=F3w PALowskich (dla tych kt=F3rzy chc=B1 chocia=BFby p=
  42666. opatrze=E6
  42667. na dema lub pogiercowa=E6) :(
  42668.  
  42669. ps. Mo=BFe nied=B3ugo uda si=EA co=B6 na ten temat zaradzi=E6
  42670. (Amy + karta GFX i jeden monitor, lub Scandoubler  + karta GFX :), ale
  42671. na razie prace trwaj=B1...
  42672.  
  42673. -- =
  42674.  
  42675. e-mail: irekm@friko.onet.pl      __
  42676. e-mail: irekm@kki.net.pl        // \   HTTP: on prepare
  42677. *Easy work?   - on Amiga*         \__          A1k2+850MB+4MB+CDx8+28800
  42678. *Best system? - on Amiga*            \
  42679. *BIG TROUBLE? - on PC...*         \_// NOWMAN - Amiga Fan 4ever !
  42680.  
  42681.  
  42682. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  42683.    Dostep do internetu 56 Kbps Flex / 64 Kbps ISDN http://www.getin.pl
  42684.        Darmowe konta pocztowe w sieci GETIN. http://box43.gnet.pl
  42685.            GETIN Internet Service Provider http://www.gnet.pl
  42686. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  42687.  
  42688.  
  42689. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 31 10:03:46 1998
  42690. Received: from orka.szczecin.tpnet.pl (orka.szczecin.tpnet.pl [194.204.141.12]) by amiga.com.pl (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA04991 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 09:52:48 +0200 (CEST)
  42691. Received: from server.fiber.net.pl ([195.205.239.75])
  42692.           by orka.szczecin.tpnet.pl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.0)
  42693.            with SMTP id AAF2763 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>;
  42694.           Tue, 31 Mar 1998 09:52:35 +0200
  42695. From: Marcin Orlowski <carlos@wfmh.org.pl>
  42696. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  42697. Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 18:20:23 +0100
  42698. Message-ID: <yam7393.1178.141208728@www.szczecin.tpnet.pl>
  42699. In-Reply-To: <yam7392.471.2016065312@priv.onet.pl>
  42700. X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 beta10 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
  42701. Organization: W.F.M.H.   (http://wfmh.org.pl)
  42702. Subject: Re: Jak wymusic deklaracje zmiennych w CHIP RAM
  42703. MIME-Version: 1.0
  42704. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  42705. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  42706.  
  42707. Dnia 29-Mar-98, RHS Linux User napisa=B3:
  42708.  
  42709. [...ciach...]
  42710.  
  42711. >          /* SA_Draggable,FALSE, */
  42712. >          /* SA_AutoScroll,FALSE, */
  42713.  
  42714. A to po co?
  42715.  
  42716. -- =
  42717.  
  42718.  My software never has bugs. It just develops random features.
  42719.  
  42720.  Marcin                              http://wfmh.org.pl/~carlos/
  42721.                                        mailto:carlos@wfmh.org.pl
  42722.  
  42723.  
  42724. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 31 10:04:02 1998
  42725. Received: from orka.szczecin.tpnet.pl (orka.szczecin.tpnet.pl [194.204.141.12]) by amiga.com.pl (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA04983 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 09:52:40 +0200 (CEST)
  42726. Received: from server.fiber.net.pl ([195.205.239.75])
  42727.           by orka.szczecin.tpnet.pl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.0)
  42728.            with SMTP id AAD2763 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>;
  42729.           Tue, 31 Mar 1998 09:52:32 +0200
  42730. From: Marcin Orlowski <carlos@wfmh.org.pl>
  42731. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  42732. Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 09:03:03 +0100
  42733. Message-ID: <yam7394.189.141610376@www.szczecin.tpnet.pl>
  42734. In-Reply-To: <01bd5989$e87c6520$fdfefe01@mk>
  42735. X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 beta10 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
  42736. Organization: W.F.M.H.   (http://wfmh.org.pl)
  42737. Subject: Re: PPC do A1200
  42738. MIME-Version: 1.0
  42739. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  42740. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  42741.  
  42742. Dnia 27-Mar-98, Wojciech Kocjan napisa=B3:
  42743.  
  42744. >> Przypomn=EA, =BFe rozmawiali=B6my o MarkTomie (i innych ma=B3ych firma=
  42745. ch).
  42746. > Fakt, by=B3o o MarkTomie. Ale np. Elbox b=EAdzie robi=B3 upgrade na PPC=
  42747.  z Apollo,
  42748. > wi=EAc to chyba tylko niekt=F3re firmy si=EA nie zgadzaj=B1 z polityk=B1=
  42749.  phase5 (kt=F3ra
  42750.  
  42751. Tu nie ma si=EA co zgadza=E6 czy nie. W takich sprawach du=BFo do "zgadza=
  42752. nia
  42753. si=EA" maj=B1 niestety pieni=B1dze. Wida=E6 Elbox ma co z tym skupowanym
  42754. sprz=EAtem zrobi=E6. Ot, ca=B3a filozofia.
  42755.  
  42756. > Ja na przyk=B3ad nie uwa=BFam Amigi za zabawk=EA. Robi=EA na niej nieje=
  42757. dno i na
  42758. > przyk=B3ad mam za darmo (shareware, wi=EAc tylko na 30 dni) program do
  42759. > nagrywania p=B3ytek, kt=F3ry nie potrzebuje nagrywajki, aby zrobi=E6 is=
  42760. oimage dla
  42761. > nagrywajek kompakt=F3w (np. EasyCD Pro tego nie zrobi bez nagrywajki SC=
  42762. SI).
  42763. > Ale to tylko jeden z przyk=B3ad=F3w. Np. na piecu mnie krew zalewa=B3a,=
  42764.  jak
  42765. > musia=B3em co kilka dni robi=E6 to samo - przerabia=E6 ILBM na GIF, zmi=
  42766. enia=E6
  42767. > palet=EA i zapisa=E6 ponownie oraz w ko=F1cu spakowa=E6 winzipem. Po pr=
  42768. ostu ARexx
  42769. > rulez.
  42770. > A je=B6li traktujesz Amig=EA jako zabawk=EA, to twoja sprawa.
  42771.  
  42772. To wy=BFej napisa=B3e=B6 powa=BFnie, czy niechc=B1cy Ci si=EA wys=B3a=B3o=
  42773. ?
  42774.  
  42775. >> I sprzedawa=E6 w zestawie m=B3otkiem i przecinakiem, =BFeby=B6 sobie m=
  42776. =F3g=B3 to nog=B1
  42777. >> wcisn=B1=E6 pod klapk=EA. =
  42778.  
  42779. > Skoro ju=BF kogo=B6 sta=E6 na kart=EA za co najmniej 15 baniek (lub mni=
  42780. ej przy
  42781. > upgradzie), to w ko=F1cu chyba sta=E6 go na jaki=B6 tower
  42782.  
  42783. Zastanow si=EA, czy podw=F3jna linia produkcyjna ma jakikolwiek sens ekon=
  42784. omiczny
  42785. przy takim rynku. Do tego szczeg=F3lnie w fazie rozruchowej.
  42786.  
  42787. > A jednak nie - i nawet si=EA mile zdziwi=B3em (patrz o Elboxie). W fazo=
  42788. we
  42789. > obiecanki o terminach dawno przesta=B3em wierzy=E6 (jak chyba ka=BFdy).=
  42790.  Ale
  42791. > przynajmniej jak co=B6 wypuszcz=B1, to nie ma wielu b=B3=EAd=F3w.
  42792.  
  42793. Np. cybppc kt=F3re do dzi=B6 nie umie porz=B1dnie zrobi=E6 reselekcji na =
  42794. ZIPach =
  42795.  
  42796. a to niestety nie jedyny (bez)b=B3=EAdny produkt Fazy... ;-(
  42797.  
  42798. -- =
  42799.  
  42800.  My software never has bugs. It just develops random features.
  42801.  
  42802.  Marcin                              http://wfmh.org.pl/~carlos/
  42803.                                        mailto:carlos@wfmh.org.pl
  42804.  
  42805.  
  42806. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 31 10:44:01 1998
  42807. Received: from mx1.polbox.com (mx1.polbox.com [195.116.5.16]) by amiga.com.pl (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA05161 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 10:28:28 +0200 (CEST)
  42808. Received: from sweet.tnet.pl (sweet.tnet.pl [195.116.45.4])
  42809.     by mx1.polbox.com (8.8.8/rev-A0) with SMTP id KAA15479
  42810.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 10:34:10 +0200
  42811. Message-ID: <3520AAAC.4FFC@polbox.com>
  42812. Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 10:34:52 +0200
  42813. From: Juha <juha@polbox.com>
  42814. Reply-To: juha@polbox.com
  42815. Organization: AmigaTeam
  42816. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I)
  42817. MIME-Version: 1.0
  42818. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  42819. Subject: MAME
  42820. References: <yam7392.2476.2016733120@opnt.optimus.wroc.pl>
  42821. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
  42822. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
  42823.  
  42824. Witam wszystkich.
  42825.  
  42826. Pewnego razu zobaczylem u jednego kloniarza fajny emulator gier z
  42827. automatow. To cos nazywalo sie MAME. Oczywiscie zaczalem szukac wersji
  42828. na Amige w aminecie i znalazlem. Ale jest jedno ale, Mame na moim
  42829. sprzecie (patrz sygnaturka) chodzi raczej kiepsko. Pewnego dnia
  42830. uslyszalem ze istnieje cos takiego TURBO MAME chodzi podobno bardzo
  42831. szybko. Jezeli ktos cos wie o tym skad to mozna sciagnac (bo na aminecie
  42832. nie ma) to prosze o kontakt.
  42833.  
  42834. -- 
  42835.            ____
  42836.    +------/ / /-------------------------------+------------------------+
  42837.    |  _ _/ / /      Marek Pialucha "Juha"     | Member of "Amiga Team" |
  42838.    |-\ \ \/ /---------------------------------+------------------------|
  42839.    |  \_\_\/   A1200/030/50 Mhz, 20MB, 1.6 GB |    juha@polbox.com     |
  42840.    +------------------------------------------+------------------------+
  42841.  
  42842. ----- [ REKLAMA / ADVERTISEMENT ] ----------------------------------------
  42843. Lubisz film?! Wiec na co czekasz? Przylacz sie do FILMWEBU!
  42844. Pierwszy Polski Serwis Filmowy w Internecie  http://www.filmweb.pl
  42845. --------------------------------------------------------------------------
  42846.  
  42847. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 31 11:03:38 1998
  42848. Received: from piast.pertus.com.pl (root@piast.pertus.com.pl [195.116.191.6]) by amiga.com.pl (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA05299 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 10:55:18 +0200 (CEST)
  42849. Received: from default (ppp181.legnica.tpnet.pl [195.116.255.181])
  42850.     by piast.pertus.com.pl (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA21384
  42851.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 10:59:48 +0200
  42852. Message-Id: <199803310859.KAA21384@piast.pertus.com.pl>
  42853. From: "Arkadiusz Winiarek" <sharky@pertus.com.pl>
  42854. To: <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  42855. Subject: Amigowe miasta ....
  42856. Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 10:53:03 +0200
  42857. X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
  42858. X-Priority: 3
  42859. X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1157
  42860. MIME-Version: 1.0
  42861. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2
  42862. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  42863.  
  42864. Hej!
  42865.  
  42866. Robert Nowak rzuci=B3 extra propozycj=EA.
  42867. Ja jestem za i licz=EA na to, =BFe wielu z Was r=F3wnie=BF.
  42868. Tak wi=EAc piszcie co o tym my=B6licie ...
  42869.  
  42870.  
  42871. Bye!
  42872.  
  42873.          "Sharky" Arkadiusz Winiarek
  42874.                  Happy Amiga User!
  42875. A-1200T/2.1GB/1260/50/32MB Fast RAM
  42876.                  Jawor woj. legnickie
  42877. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 31 11:23:44 1998
  42878. Received: from rose.man.poznan.pl (root@rose.man.poznan.pl [150.254.173.3]) by amiga.com.pl (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA05393 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 11:15:31 +0200 (CEST)
  42879. Received: from buteo.man.bialystok.pl (buteo.man.bialystok.pl [194.181.132.1])
  42880.     by rose.man.poznan.pl (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA29445;
  42881.     Tue, 31 Mar 1998 11:13:52 +0100 (MET)
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  42885.     id LAA01167; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 11:11:39 +0200
  42886. Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 11:11:39 +0200 (MET DST)
  42887. From: "Marcin Juszkiewicz (Szczepan/BlaBla)" <szczepan@cksr.ac.bialystok.pl>
  42888. X-Sender: szczepan@cksr
  42889. To: Lista dyskusyjna uzytkownikow komputerow AMIGA <AMIGA@plearn.edu.pl>,
  42890.         AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  42891. Subject: Kupno CDR
  42892. Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.96.980331110958.1124A-100000@cksr>
  42893. MIME-Version: 1.0
  42894. Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
  42895.  
  42896.  
  42897.  Hi !
  42898.  
  42899.   Moj znajomy pytal mnie o to czy warto kupic nagrywarke CDD 2600
  42900. Philipsa uzywana namietnie za 1000pln wliczajac kontroler scsi. Jakis czas
  42901. temu byla o tym dyskusja ale niestety nie mam tamtego listu w archiwum.
  42902.  
  42903.  Z gory dzieki za odpowiedz.
  42904.  
  42905. ------
  42906.  Marcin Juszkiewicz (Szczepan/BlaBla)   *Team Amiga*
  42907.  szczepan@cksr.ac.bialystok.pl  http://cksr.ac.bialystok.pl/szczepan/
  42908.  A1200 BlizzIv 2+8MB RAM 425MB HDD
  42909.  Author of MultiView for OS 2.0+ -> Aminet:util/sys/2b_mv_os2_x.lha
  42910.  
  42911. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 31 11:23:53 1998
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  42918.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 11:24:04 +0200
  42919. From: Jaroslaw Waligorski <jwalig@polbox.com>
  42920. Reply-To: jwalig@polbox.com
  42921. To: amigapl@amiga.com.pl
  42922. Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 10:11:59 +0100
  42923. Message-ID: <yam7394.2986.2014270408@smtp.polbox.com>
  42924. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  42925. Subject: Czytniki z opcja zgrywania dzwieku...
  42926. MIME-Version: 1.0
  42927. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  42928. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  42929.  
  42930. Cze=B6=EA all !!!
  42931.  
  42932. Od d=B3u=BFszego czasu toczy si=EA tu dyskusja na temat: kt=F3re czytniki=
  42933.  maj=B1
  42934. opcj=EA zgrywania muzyki (samplowania) do pliku za pomoc=B1 OptyPlayer'a =
  42935. a =
  42936.  
  42937. kt=F3re nie...
  42938. Tak sobie my=B6l=EA co by mo=BFna by=B3o zrobi=EA list=EA zawieraj=B1c=B1=
  42939.  wszystkie =
  42940.  
  42941. nap=EAdy kt=F3re tak=B1 opcje posiadaj=B1.Chyba by si=EA ona przyda=B3a t=
  42942. ym kt=F3rym
  42943. ta opcja jest potrzebna + tym kt=F3ry jeszcze nie kupili czytnika CD...
  42944. A tak na marginesie: czy Aztech 8x ma t=B1 mo=BFliwo=B6=EA ???
  42945.  
  42946. Pozdrownienia....
  42947.                                                           \ JARUS /
  42948.                                                            \-=3D-=3D-/
  42949.  
  42950.    *-----------------------------------------------------------------*
  42951.    |  Jaroslaw 'Jarus' Waligorski    |   email: jwalig@polbox.com    |
  42952.    *-----------------------------------------------------------------*
  42953.    | A1230/50 FPU 882/50 32MB RAM HD 850MB CDROM 8x USR SSter Flash  |
  42954.    *-----------------------------------------------------------------*
  42955.  
  42956.  
  42957. ----- [ REKLAMA / ADVERTISEMENT ] ----------------------------------------
  42958. Lubisz film?! Wiec na co czekasz? Przylacz sie do FILMWEBU!
  42959. Pierwszy Polski Serwis Filmowy w Internecie  http://www.filmweb.pl
  42960. --------------------------------------------------------------------------
  42961.  
  42962. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 31 12:03:48 1998
  42963. Received: from student.uci.agh.edu.pl (ramix@student.uci.agh.edu.pl [149.156.98.60]) by amiga.com.pl (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA05471 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 11:48:12 +0200 (CEST)
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  42965.        id LAA20045 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 11:48:23 +0200 (MET DST)
  42966. Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 11:48:21 +0200 (MET DST)
  42967. From: Grzegorz Junka <ramix@student.uci.agh.edu.pl>
  42968. X-Sender: ramix@student
  42969. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  42970. Subject: Re: animacje
  42971. In-Reply-To: <yam7394.2582.131523168@mail.supermedia.pl>
  42972. Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.95.980331114750.19237C-100000@student>
  42973. MIME-Version: 1.0
  42974. Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
  42975.  
  42976. On Tue, 31 Mar 1998, Peter Drapich wrote:
  42977.  
  42978. > >Juz wiem, dlaczego biganim mi nie odpowiadal! Wyswietla on animacje tylko
  42979. > >w palu. Nie mozna mu wlaczyc wyswietlania w multiscanie. Visage i VT to
  42980. > >potrafia, ale vt sie wiesza a visage nie odtwarza z dysku. Sa jeszcze
  42981. > >jakies mozliwosci?
  42982. > 
  42983. > Moge ci podeslac moj player - czyta z dysku. Co prawda nie jest dopracowany,
  42984. > ale dziala.
  42985.  
  42986. Dzieki. przyslac zawsze mozesz, najwyzej zostane przy BigAnim z
  42987. promowanymi ekranami. ;)
  42988.  
  42989. --
  42990. ,x80Y^"    Member of Amiga Promotion Group and fanatic AMIGA user
  42991. $0+'            Grzegorz Junka "Bastian"
  42992. 08    piccolo@ibm.uci.agh.edu.pl    bastian@apg.plukwa.pdi.net
  42993. 0'
  42994. 9    A1200Inf 040/40Bliz 32Mb 1.6Gb 12x 1942S CN40BC
  42995.  
  42996. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 31 12:03:56 1998
  42997. Received: from student.uci.agh.edu.pl (ramix@student.uci.agh.edu.pl [149.156.98.60]) by amiga.com.pl (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA05465 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 11:47:09 +0200 (CEST)
  42998. Received: from localhost (ramix@localhost) by student.uci.agh.edu.pl (8.8.6/8.8.5/ts-tmpl.970124) with SMTP
  42999.        id LAA19844 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 11:46:22 +0200 (MET DST)
  43000. Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 11:46:22 +0200 (MET DST)
  43001. From: Grzegorz Junka <ramix@student.uci.agh.edu.pl>
  43002. X-Sender: ramix@student
  43003. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  43004. Subject: Re: seagate
  43005. In-Reply-To: <yam7393.1929.2015087872@priv.onet.pl>
  43006. Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.95.980331114554.19237A-100000@student>
  43007. MIME-Version: 1.0
  43008. Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-2
  43009. Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE
  43010.  
  43011. On Mon, 30 Mar 1998, Robert Nowak wrote:
  43012.  
  43013. > Mam Seagate 1.7 GB UltraDMA 2 i nie mam z nim =BFadnych problem=F3w (na m=
  43014. oim konfigu
  43015. > wyci=B1ga 2.6 MB/s - pod SysInfo), no mo=BFe poza zbyt wolnym rozkr=EAcan=
  43016. iam si=EA
  43017. > w momencie uruchomienia komputera - ale tylko czasami.
  43018. > Mia=B3em tak=BFe do czynienia z dyskiem j.w. tylko 2.1 GB i tak=BFe nie b=
  43019. y=B3o k=B3opot=F3w.
  43020.  
  43021. A co z grzaniem sie tych twardzieli? Ktos na liscie wyrazal pewne obawy.
  43022.  
  43023. --
  43024. ,x80Y^"=09Member of Amiga Promotion Group and fanatic AMIGA user
  43025. $0+'=09=09=09Grzegorz Junka "Bastian"
  43026. 08=09piccolo@ibm.uci.agh.edu.pl=09bastian@apg.plukwa.pdi.net
  43027. 0'
  43028. 9=09A1200Inf 040/40Bliz 32Mb 1.6Gb 12x 1942S CN40BC
  43029.  
  43030. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 31 12:04:04 1998
  43031. Received: from server.fiber.net.pl (server.fiber.net.pl [195.117.208.101]) by amiga.com.pl (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA05479 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 11:52:19 +0200 (CEST)
  43032. Received: from student.uci.agh.edu.pl ([149.156.98.60])
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  43035.           Tue, 31 Mar 1998 10:52:05 +0100
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  43038. Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 11:47:31 +0200 (MET DST)
  43039. From: Grzegorz Junka <ramix@student.uci.agh.edu.pl>
  43040. X-Sender: ramix@student
  43041. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  43042. Subject: Re: CD-ROM
  43043. In-Reply-To: <yam7392.16.137148320@friko.onet.pl>
  43044. Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.95.980331114701.19237B-100000@student>
  43045. MIME-Version: 1.0
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  43047. Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE
  43048.  
  43049. On Sun, 29 Mar 1998, [iso-8859-1] Micha=EE Bujak wrote:
  43050.  
  43051. > >Informuj=EA, =BFe Mitsumi FX-400E na pewno *nie umo=BFliwia.*
  43052. > A udalo sie komus z Philipsem x8 ???
  43053.  
  43054. Udalo sie z Philipsemx12. Niczym innym, jak tylko pakietem pnp300 (czy
  43055. jakos tak)
  43056.  
  43057. --
  43058. ,x80Y^"=09Member of Amiga Promotion Group and fanatic AMIGA user
  43059. $0+'=09=09=09Grzegorz Junka "Bastian"
  43060. 08=09piccolo@ibm.uci.agh.edu.pl=09bastian@apg.plukwa.pdi.net
  43061. 0'
  43062. 9=09A1200Inf 040/40Bliz 32Mb 1.6Gb 12x 1942S CN40BC
  43063.  
  43064. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 31 12:04:18 1998
  43065. Received: from gryzmak.lodz.pdi.net (gryzmak.lodz.pdi.net [195.116.162.1]) by amiga.com.pl (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA05476 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 11:50:49 +0200 (CEST)
  43066. Received: (from arturp@localhost)
  43067.     by gryzmak.lodz.pdi.net (8.8.8/2.1.1/L) id LAA22947;
  43068.     Tue, 31 Mar 1998 11:48:42 +0200
  43069. Message-ID: <19980331114841.55996@plukwa.pdi.net>
  43070. Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 11:48:41 +0200
  43071. From: Artur Pietruk <arturp@plukwa.pdi.net>
  43072. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  43073. Subject: DEV - SasPPC
  43074. Mime-Version: 1.0
  43075. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
  43076. X-Mailer: Mutt 0.83
  43077.  
  43078.     Witam! Wczoraj zainstalowalem sobie patcha na sasc ppc. Po probie
  43079. kompilacji jednego z moich kodow, uzyskuje mniej wiecej taki komunikat
  43080. (nie zapisalem na kartce wiec nie przytocze doslownie):
  43081.  
  43082. "#pragma - not supported by sasc 7.0 ppc" (nie ma zadnej informacji o tym
  43083. w ktorej linijce i w jakim pliku wystapil blad)
  43084.  
  43085.     Nigdzie w sposob jawny nie wywoluje #pragma, kod kompiluje sie ok
  43086. na m68k. Poza bibliotekami dos,exec,intuition korzystam z cgfx.library,
  43087. pakiet dla developerow V3 (teraz jest juz v4, moze to ma jakis zwiazek z
  43088. moim problemem). Czy tez moze zle zainstalowalem includy od powerupa, badz
  43089. zle spatchowalem sasa?
  43090.  
  43091.     PS. Czy mozna gdzies znalezc jakies obszerniejsze materialy na
  43092. temat sasppc oraz pisania pod powerupa?
  43093.  
  43094.     Dziekuje za informacje i pozdrawia:
  43095.  
  43096.  -- 
  43097. -------------------------------------------------------------------
  43098. - Who  : Artur Pietruk - WebMaster @ PDi - www.pdi.net -      /// -
  43099. - Email: arturp@pdi.net IRC: APair TEL: +48 44 7140906 -     ///  -
  43100. - Snail: ul.11 listopada 33a/19 97-140 Koluszki POLAND - \\\///   -
  43101. - Using: AMIGA 4000/40 CV64-3D, A1240T                 -  \\//    -
  43102.  
  43103.         PGP public key - finger arturp@gryzmak.lodz.pdi.net
  43104.                 "My webpage exists - I've seen it!"
  43105. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 31 12:23:42 1998
  43106. Received: from zskl.p.lodz.pl (root@zskl.p.lodz.pl [194.181.171.3]) by amiga.com.pl (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA05546 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 12:11:28 +0200 (CEST)
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  43108. Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 12:10:17 +0200
  43109. Message-Id: <199803311010.MAA17471@zskl.p.lodz.pl>
  43110. X-Sender: kaczus@kki.net.pl
  43111. X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2
  43112. Mime-Version: 1.0
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  43115. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  43116. From: Tomasz Kaczanowski <kaczus@kki.net.pl>
  43117. Subject: Re: Amigowy =?iso-8859-1?Q?Wroc=EEaw?= , Poznan itd...
  43118.  
  43119. At 21:24 98-03-30 +0100, you wrote:
  43120.  
  43121. >A mo=BFe by=B6my si=EA tak wszyscy spotkali podczas targ=F3w Infosystem w=
  43122.  Poznaniu?
  43123. >B=EAd=B1 od 21 do 25 kwietnia (od wtorku do pi=B1tku).
  43124. >Mog=B3o by to by=E6 ca=B3kiem spore spotkanie i przy okazji mo=BFna by co=
  43125.  nieco
  43126. zobaczy=E6
  43127. >na stoiskach (np pEcEty :( ....
  43128.  
  43129. ups... nienajlepsiejszy termin... - niektorzy pracuja lub sie ucza,
  43130. ale nie ma jak Amiga Show 20-21 czerwca ....
  43131.  
  43132. Kaczus of BlaBla
  43133.  
  43134. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 31 12:23:51 1998
  43135. Received: from server.fiber.net.pl (server.fiber.net.pl [195.117.208.101]) by amiga.com.pl (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA05581 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 12:20:33 +0200 (CEST)
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  43138.           for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 11:20:20 +0100
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  43140. Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 12:14:22 +0200
  43141. Message-Id: <199803311014.MAA17528@zskl.p.lodz.pl>
  43142. X-Sender: kaczus@kki.net.pl
  43143. X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2
  43144. Mime-Version: 1.0
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  43146. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  43147. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  43148. From: Tomasz Kaczanowski <kaczus@kki.net.pl>
  43149. Subject: Re: Re[2]: Odp: 14" vs 15"
  43150.  
  43151. At 07:50 98-03-31 -0500, you wrote:
  43152.  
  43153. >Taaak, wszystko jest fajnie, tylko dalej pozostaje problem nie
  43154. >wypromowanych tryb=F3w PALowskich (dla tych kt=F3rzy chc=B1 chocia=BFby=
  43155.  popatrze=E6
  43156. >na dema lub pogiercowa=E6) :(
  43157.  
  43158. Dlatego moja propozycja jest taka, by gierce i demka pisac zgodnie z=
  43159.  systemem
  43160. i otwierac na systemowych ekranach - wtedy mozna wypromowac programowo,=
  43161.  jesli
  43162. autor nie pozostawil mozliwosci wyboru trybu ....
  43163.  
  43164. Kczaus of BlaBla
  43165.  
  43166. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 31 12:23:59 1998
  43167. Received: from server.fiber.net.pl (server.fiber.net.pl [195.117.208.101]) by amiga.com.pl (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA05585 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 12:20:52 +0200 (CEST)
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  43171.           Tue, 31 Mar 1998 11:20:37 +0100
  43172. Received: from pecet (ppp219.plock.tpnet.pl [195.116.246.219])
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  43174.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 12:21:50 +0200
  43175. Message-ID: <3520C2E9.BB9FB2F8@linux2.pzuzycie.com.pl>
  43176. Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 12:18:17 +0200
  43177. From: "Jerzy Ma³ecki" <jurgen@linux2.pzuzycie.com.pl>
  43178. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (Win95; I)
  43179. MIME-Version: 1.0
  43180. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  43181. Subject: Re: Amigowe miasta ....
  43182. X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
  43183. References: <199803310859.KAA21384@piast.pertus.com.pl>
  43184. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  43185. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
  43186.  
  43187. pomysl oki tylko dzien nie wiem czy dobry bo pierwszego to zawsze
  43188. najwieksze tlumy ale jak wiekszosc bedzie za to przyjade
  43189.  
  43190. jestem za Jurek / Plock
  43191.  
  43192. p.s.
  43193. musimu jeszcze ustalic miejsce spotkania (konkretnie juz na terenie
  43194. targow lub przed) moze jakies znaki rozpoznawcze (naklejka AMIGA na
  43195. ramieniu :)
  43196.  
  43197. -- 
  43198.  
  43199. siemka
  43200.  
  43201. * Ak5/3.1/3mb/80+540scsi/cd 2x/1084/USRS28800
  43202. * amiga4ever@linux2.pzuzycie.com.pl
  43203. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 31 13:03:39 1998
  43204. Received: from david.silesia.pik-net.pl (david.silesia.pik-net.pl [195.82.176.1]) by amiga.com.pl (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA05691 for <amigapl@wfmh.org.pl>; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 13:02:20 +0200 (CEST)
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  43211. From: "Darek Kleina" <AMIGA@soft-eks.com.pl>
  43212. To: Amiga@plearn.edu.pl, amigapl@wfmh.org.pl
  43213. Date:          Tue, 31 Mar 1998 13:01:25 
  43214. MIME-Version:  1.0
  43215. Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
  43216. Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
  43217. Subject:       Multisession CD & ISOimage
  43218. X-Confirm-Reading-To: "Darek Kleina" <AMIGA@soft-eks.com.pl.>
  43219. X-pmrqc:       1
  43220. Priority: normal
  43221. X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.22
  43222. Message-ID: <5DAE9D414F@mail.soft-eks.com.pl.>
  43223.  
  43224. Czesc !!!
  43225.  
  43226. Wlasnie mam ochote nagrac sobie plyte. W tej chwili mam ok 100 Mb 
  43227. danych. Prawdopodobnie zgram to jaki ISO-image i zaniose na blache.
  43228. Mam w zwiazku z tym pytanie. Czy doplyty zgranej jako ISO mozna 
  43229. pozniej dogrywac kolejne jej czesci ? (np.kolejne iso czy moze 
  43230. przewalac to plikami) Problem polega na tym, ze g95 ma problemy z 
  43231. plikami ktore nazywaja sie np. od "+" czy "|" i nie ma mozliwosci 
  43232. przeniesc ich inaczej niz jako ISO.
  43233.  
  43234.  
  43235.  
  43236. Pozdrawiam
  43237.  
  43238. +--------------------------------------------------------------------+
  43239. | Dariusz Kleina                        Amiga & pC programmer        |
  43240. | mailto:amiga@soft-eks.com.pl         Basic/Pascal/C/C++/Asm        |
  43241. |   A1200, HDD 850, CD-ROM 12x, Mem 2+8 Mb, CPU 030/42, FPU 882/20   |
  43242. +--------------------------------------------------------------------+
  43243.         
  43244. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 31 13:43:57 1998
  43245. Received: from orka.szczecin.tpnet.pl (orka.szczecin.tpnet.pl [194.204.141.12]) by amiga.com.pl (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA05812 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 13:29:56 +0200 (CEST)
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  43249. From: Admin <owner-amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  43250. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  43251. CC: amizaur@box43.gnet.pl
  43252. Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 13:23:13 +0100
  43253. Message-ID: <yam7394.663.141260424@www.szczecin.tpnet.pl>
  43254. In-Reply-To: <yam7393.2070.3924432@iftia6.univ.gda.pl>
  43255. X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 beta10 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
  43256. Organization: W.F.M.H.   (http://wfmh.org.pl)
  43257. Subject: Re: Sprzedam blizzka IV
  43258. MIME-Version: 1.0
  43259. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  43260. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  43261.  
  43262. Dnia 30-Mar-98, Marcin Ostrowski napisa=B3:
  43263.  
  43264. > Dnia 26-Mar-98, Maciej Gajewski napisa=B3:
  43265. >> Dnia 25-Mar-98    17:42:02, At0m napisa=B3:
  43266. >>> W zwiazku z zakupem karty PPC mam do sprzedania
  43267. >>> karte *Blizzard IV 030/50Mhz z koprocem* za powiedzmy 400 z=B3
  43268. >>> Dla os=F3b z poza tr=F3jmiasta dojd=B1 jeszcze koszty przesy=B3ki.
  43269. >> Ja to samo, z tym =BFe dla os=F3b z Tr=F3jmiasta *DOSTAWA DO DOMU* ;D
  43270. > Masz jeszcze tego Blizzka? Ile za niego chcesz? Czy on jest
  43271.  
  43272. Uprzejmie informuje, i=BF korespondencj=EA _prywatn=B1_ nale=BFy prowadzi=
  43273. =E6
  43274. _prywatnie_ nie za=B6 #@$@# na li=B6cie! Anielska cierpliwo=B6=E6 Admina =
  43275. w
  43276. tej materii si=EA ju=BF wyczerpa=B3a i pierwszy finalista dostaje
  43277. profilaktycznie <ZOTa> ku przestrodze pozosta=B3ym.
  43278.  
  43279. -- =
  43280.  
  43281.  Admin                           mailto:owner-amigapl@amiga.com.pl
  43282.  
  43283.  
  43284.  
  43285. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 31 14:05:03 1998
  43286. Received: from www.kki.net.pl (www.kki.net.pl [195.116.9.70]) by amiga.com.pl (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA05959 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 13:50:16 +0200 (CEST)
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  43289.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 13:49:34 GMT
  43290. From: Adam Majewski <akmmaya@kki.net.pl>
  43291. Reply-To: Adam Majewski <akmmaya@kki.net.pl>
  43292. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  43293. Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 21:35:53 +0100
  43294. Message-ID: <yam7393.2658.1747843800@kki.net.pl>
  43295. In-Reply-To: <yam7391.2609.5958968@zskl.p.lodz.pl>
  43296. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  43297. Subject: Re: Re[4]: Odp: 14" vs 15"
  43298. MIME-Version: 1.0
  43299. X-ISO-CONVERTED: Yam_ISO2 1.06 (17.11.97) (c) Silver Dream !
  43300. X-YAMISO-UPDATE: ftp://wfmh.org.pl/pub/yam_iso2/
  43301. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  43302. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  43303.  
  43304. Dnia 28-Mar-98, Grzegorz Kraszewski napisa=B3:
  43305.  
  43306. >Dnia 27-Mar-98, Adam Majewski napisal:
  43307.  
  43308. >> Dnia 26-Mar-98, Grzegorz Kraszewski napisa=B3:
  43309.  
  43310. >>>B=B3=B1d. Tryb DBL powoduje jedynie dwa razy wi=EAksze obci=B1=BFenie =
  43311. magistrali
  43312. >>>pami=EAci CHIP w por=F3wnaniu do analogicznego trybu bez DBL, co wcale=
  43313.  nie
  43314. >musi
  43315. >>>oznacza=E6 (i nie oznacza) dwukrotnego spowolnienia grafiki. Ja na swo=
  43316. jej
  43317. >>>030/50 u=BFywam do Workbencha DBLPAL HighRes NoFlicker (672x512) w 32
  43318. >>> kolorach i na szybko=B6=E6 grafiki nie narzekam.
  43319.  
  43320. >> =
  43321.  
  43322. >> Prze=B3=B1cz si=EA na 256 kolor=F3w i sam zobacz, granica znacznych r=F3=
  43323. =BFnic
  43324. >> w pr=EAdko=B6ciach zaczyna si=EA od 64 kolor=F3w w g=F3r=EA :)
  43325.  
  43326. >W PAL-u wcale nie chodzi to tak znowu szybciej, pod warunkiem posiadania=
  43327.  
  43328. >pami=EAci FAST. A maj=B1c do wyboru wolniej albo wyra=BCniej (interlace =
  43329. suxx) wol=EA
  43330. >wolniej.
  43331.  
  43332. Interlace suxx - tak wiem, ale jak zobaczy=B3em MagicTV
  43333. w dzia=B3aniu to sam nie mog=B3em uwierzy=E6, =BFe interlace mo=BFe
  43334. by=E6 tak przyjemny :O Inna sprawa to: co w=B3a=B6ciwie oznacza
  43335. wolniej i co dok=B3adnie oznacza wyra=BCniej ?>(
  43336.  =
  43337.  
  43338. >> ps. proponowa=B3bym tak=BFe prze=B3=B1czenie si=EA na multiscan,
  43339. >>    ale to tw=F3j wyb=F3r (i twoje oczy :)
  43340.  
  43341. >Podkr=EAcenie MonEdem do 30.9 kHz i 56 Hz + dobry filtr na monitor i nie=
  43342.  ma
  43343. >problemu.
  43344.  
  43345. Mnie natomiast uda=B3o si=EA podkr=EAci=E6 do 31.16 khz i 54 hz,
  43346. ale i tak z tego nie ko=BFystam :) Tak swoj=B1 drog=B1 to nawet
  43347. te 4 herze [herce] wi=EAcej daj=B1 przyzwoity efekt :)
  43348.  
  43349. trzymaj si=EA.... (z dala od sP=B3uCzek)
  43350. -- =
  43351.  
  43352. Pozdrawiam :-)
  43353.  
  43354. mailto: akmmaya@kki.net.pl
  43355. www: http://www.kki.net.pl/akmmaya
  43356.  
  43357. :-)  w=F3wren  eibos  juCP  ein  (-:
  43358.                                                            Adam Majewski
  43359.  
  43360. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 31 14:43:39 1998
  43361. Received: from zeus.polsl.gliwice.pl (ololo@zeus.polsl.gliwice.pl [157.158.1.3]) by amiga.com.pl (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA06084 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 14:41:45 +0200 (CEST)
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  43363. Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 14:40:35 +0200 (METDST)
  43364. From: Aleksander Salwa <ololo@zeus.polsl.gliwice.pl>
  43365. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  43366. Subject: Re: Re[2]: Odp: 14" vs 15"
  43367. In-Reply-To: <199803311014.MAA17528@zskl.p.lodz.pl>
  43368. Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.95.980331143655.24200B-100000@zeus.polsl.gliwice.pl>
  43369. MIME-Version: 1.0
  43370. Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
  43371.  
  43372.  
  43373. On Tue, 31 Mar 1998, Tomasz Kaczanowski wrote:
  43374.  
  43375. > Dlatego moja propozycja jest taka, by gierce i demka pisac zgodnie z systemem
  43376. > i otwierac na systemowych ekranach - wtedy mozna wypromowac programowo, jesli
  43377. > autor nie pozostawil mozliwosci wyboru trybu ....
  43378.  
  43379. Tak, to jest jedyne rozsadne rozwiazanie problemu.
  43380. Konsekwentnie bojkotuje gry i dema nie chodzace na moim monitorze,
  43381. nie mam ochoty nosic 50kg telewizora ;)
  43382.  
  43383. __________________________________________________________________________
  43384. Aleksander Salwa ----------------------------- ololo@zeus.polsl.gliwice.pl
  43385.  
  43386.  
  43387. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 31 14:43:47 1998
  43388. Received: from server.fiber.net.pl (server.fiber.net.pl [195.117.208.101]) by amiga.com.pl (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA06068 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 14:29:27 +0200 (CEST)
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  43396. From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Adam_Ka=9Fmierski?=" <adamk@anna.swk.med.pl>
  43397. To: "AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi" <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  43398. Subject: Odp: Kupno CDR
  43399. Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 14:20:05 +0200
  43400. X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
  43401. X-Priority: 3
  43402. X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161
  43403. MIME-Version: 1.0
  43404. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
  43405. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  43406.  
  43407. ----------
  43408. > Od: Marcin Juszkiewicz (Szczepan/BlaBla) =
  43409. <szczepan@cksr.ac.bialystok.pl>
  43410. > Do: amigapl@amiga.com.pl
  43411. > Temat: Kupno CDR
  43412. > Data: 31 marca 1998 11:11
  43413. >=20
  43414. >=20
  43415. >  Hi !
  43416. >=20
  43417. >   Moj znajomy pytal mnie o to czy warto kupic nagrywarke CDD 2600
  43418. > Philipsa uzywana namietnie za 1000pln wliczajac kontroler scsi. Jakis =
  43419. czas
  43420. > temu byla o tym dyskusja ale niestety nie mam tamtego listu w =
  43421. archiwum.
  43422.  
  43423. Juz kawal czasu uzywam tej nagrywarki i musze stwierdzic ze jest w =
  43424. porzadku.
  43425. Oczywiscie jak sie ma odpowiednie oprogramowanie ...
  43426.  
  43427.  
  43428. Adam "ExploRa" Kazmierski / COLOR7
  43429. adamk@anna.swk.med.pl | http://anna.swk.med.pl/~adamk/ | =
  43430. ftp://ftp.swk.med.pl/pub/color7
  43431. ACD32Pro 2+8MB RAM FPU 1.6GB HDD
  43432. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 31 14:43:54 1998
  43433. Received: from anna.swk.med.pl (anna.swk.med.PL [195.136.77.1]) by amiga.com.pl (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA06063 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 14:24:22 +0200 (CEST)
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  43436.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 15:27:08 +0200
  43437. Message-Id: <199803311327.PAA12528@anna.swk.med.pl>
  43438. From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Adam_Ka=9Fmierski?=" <adamk@anna.swk.med.pl>
  43439. To: "AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi" <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  43440. Subject: Odp: Multisession CD & ISOimage
  43441. Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 14:17:41 +0200
  43442. X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
  43443. X-Priority: 3
  43444. X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161
  43445. MIME-Version: 1.0
  43446. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
  43447. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  43448.  
  43449. ----------
  43450. > Od: Darek Kleina <AMIGA@SOFT-EKS.COM.PL>
  43451. > Do: amigapl@amiga.com.pl
  43452. > Temat: Multisession CD & ISOimage
  43453. > Data: 31 marca 1998 15:01
  43454. >=20
  43455. > Czesc !!!
  43456. >=20
  43457. > Wlasnie mam ochote nagrac sobie plyte. W tej chwili mam ok 100 Mb=20
  43458. > danych. Prawdopodobnie zgram to jaki ISO-image i zaniose na blache.
  43459. > Mam w zwiazku z tym pytanie. Czy doplyty zgranej jako ISO mozna=20
  43460. > pozniej dogrywac kolejne jej czesci ? (np.kolejne iso czy moze=20
  43461. > przewalac to plikami) Problem polega na tym, ze g95 ma problemy z=20
  43462. > plikami ktore nazywaja sie np. od "+" czy "|" i nie ma mozliwosci=20
  43463. > przeniesc ich inaczej niz jako ISO.
  43464.  
  43465. Jezeli bedziesz nagrywal plytke na "grzybie" to najlepiej w tzw. =
  43466. MULTISESSION.
  43467. Daje to taka mozliwosc ze kolejne ISO zostanie dodane do istniejacego =
  43468. (jako druga sesja).
  43469. Oczywiscie pliki beda dodane do tych katalogow, ktore robiles wczesniej =
  43470. (oczywiscie jak je tam poslesz tzn. do tych katalogow) poza tym trzeba =
  43471. wiedziec na jakim programie bedzie nagrana ... nie wszyscy maja na =
  43472. grzybie oryginalne progsy, a jedynie shareware'y ...
  43473. Co moze spowodowac jakies bledy w nagrywaniu amigowego ISO ...
  43474. =20
  43475. =20
  43476. Adam "ExploRa" Kazmierski / COLOR7
  43477. adamk@anna.swk.med.pl | http://anna.swk.med.pl/~adamk/ | =
  43478. ftp://ftp.swk.med.pl/pub/color7
  43479. ACD32Pro 2+8MB RAM FPU 1.6GB HDD
  43480. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 31 15:43:39 1998
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  43485. Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 15:30:59 +0200 (CEST)
  43486. From: Dariusz Woloch <spajk@willow.oi.pz.zgora.pl>
  43487. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  43488. Subject: Re: seagate
  43489. In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.3.95.980331114554.19237A-100000@student>
  43490. Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.3.96.980331152829.1778A-100000@willow.oi.pz.zgora.pl>
  43491. MIME-Version: 1.0
  43492. Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
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  43494.  
  43495. > > Mam Seagate 1.7 GB UltraDMA 2 i nie mam z nim =BFadnych problem=F3w (na=
  43496.  moim konfigu
  43497. > > wyci=B1ga 2.6 MB/s - pod SysInfo), no mo=BFe poza zbyt wolnym rozkr=EAc=
  43498. aniam si=EA
  43499. > > w momencie uruchomienia komputera - ale tylko czasami.
  43500. > > Mia=B3em tak=BFe do czynienia z dyskiem j.w. tylko 2.1 GB i tak=BFe nie=
  43501.  by=B3o k=B3opot=F3w.
  43502. >=20
  43503. > A co z grzaniem sie tych twardzieli? Ktos na liscie wyrazal pewne obawy.
  43504.  
  43505. Ja pisalem o grzaniu sie 1.3 gb i poza ta zbyt jak na moj gust wysoka
  43506. temperatura pracy wszystko bylo okey.
  43507. Byc moze byl to jeden z pierwszych segatow (nie z serii medalist).
  43508.  
  43509.     _\_                          _/_
  43510. |)\/  (o\ Dariusz Woloch (d2)  /o)  \/(| irc d2
  43511. |)/\__(_/ phone 075-734-2683   \_)__/\(| icq 6828655
  43512. Summon Your Faith - Your Intention Must Be Clear
  43513.  
  43514. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 31 18:03:42 1998
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  43519. From: Ryszard Sajdak <rysieksa@friko2.onet.pl>
  43520. Reply-To: Ryszard Sajdak <rysieksa@friko2.onet.pl>
  43521. To: amigapl@amiga.com.pl
  43522. Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 17:46:35 +0100
  43523. Message-ID: <yam7394.1791.1749126256@www.tpnet.pl>
  43524. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  43525. Organization: Amiga 1200/040/40MHz/16MB
  43526. Subject: WordWorth
  43527. MIME-Version: 1.0
  43528. X-ISO-CONVERTED: Yam_ISO2 1.06 (17.11.97) (c) Silver Dream !
  43529. X-YAMISO-UPDATE: ftp://wfmh.org.pl/pub/yam_iso2/
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  43532.  
  43533. Witam!
  43534.  
  43535. Mam taki problem z programem jak wy=BFej. Po ustawieniu margines=F3w
  43536. w dokumencie, je=BFeli drukuj=EA jedn=B1 stron=EA mam o ok. 1 cm wi=EAksz=
  43537. y =
  43538.  
  43539. margines u g=F3ry kartki od tego w na ekranie monitora, natomiast =
  43540.  
  43541. je=BFeli puszcz=EA do drukowania powy=BFej jednej strony to na wszystkich=
  43542.  =
  43543.  
  43544. stronach powy=BFej pierwszej marginesy s=B1 ju=BF dobre, a na tej
  43545. pierwszej bez zmian. Dzieje si=EA tak zawsze przy wydruku jednej strony.
  43546.  
  43547. U=BFywam do wydruku - WordWorth 6 oraz Turbo Print 6 drukarka HP 600
  43548. (same sz=F3stki :-)
  43549.  
  43550. -- =
  43551.  
  43552. HIROSHIMA '45 - CHERNOBYL '86 -->  WINDOWS '95
  43553.  
  43554. --> Amiga FAN :-) 1200 Tower/040/40MHz/16MB/1.2GB/x8CD/33,6k<------/
  43555. mail  to: #rysieksa@priv2.onet.pl#
  43556. IRC nick: #RyVar72#
  43557.  
  43558. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 31 18:43:44 1998
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  43564. From: Admin <owner-amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  43565. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  43566. Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 13:35:18 +0100
  43567. Message-ID: <yam7394.927.141260424@www.szczecin.tpnet.pl>
  43568. In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.3.96.980331110958.1124A-100000@cksr>
  43569. X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 beta10 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
  43570. Organization: W.F.M.H.   (http://wfmh.org.pl)
  43571. Subject: Re: Kupno CDR
  43572. MIME-Version: 1.0
  43573. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  43574. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  43575.  
  43576. Dnia 31-Mar-98, Marcin Juszkiewicz (Szczepan/BlaBla) napisa=B3:
  43577.  
  43578. >  Moj znajomy pytal mnie o to czy warto kupic nagrywarke CDD 2600
  43579. > Philipsa uzywana namietnie za 1000pln wliczajac kontroler scsi. Jakis c=
  43580. zas
  43581. > temu byla o tym dyskusja ale niestety nie mam tamtego listu w archiwum.=
  43582.  
  43583.  
  43584. Maile z listy dost=EApne s=B1 na WWW: http://amiga.com.pl/lists/ i przez =
  43585. FTP
  43586.  
  43587. -- =
  43588.  
  43589.  Admin                           mailto:owner-amigapl@amiga.com.pl
  43590.  
  43591.  
  43592.  
  43593. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 31 18:43:52 1998
  43594. Received: from student.uci.agh.edu.pl (kwant@student.uci.agh.edu.pl [149.156.98.60]) by amiga.com.pl (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA06619 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 18:29:03 +0200 (CEST)
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  43597. Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 18:28:58 +0200 (MET DST)
  43598. From: Jaroslaw Bulat <kwant@student.uci.agh.edu.pl>
  43599. X-Sender: kwant@student
  43600. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  43601. Subject: Re: seagate
  43602. In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.3.96.980331152829.1778A-100000@willow.oi.pz.zgora.pl>
  43603. Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.95.980331182521.5203A-100000@student>
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  43607.  
  43608.  
  43609. Hi!
  43610.  
  43611. [Ciach...]
  43612.  
  43613. > > A co z grzaniem sie tych twardzieli? Ktos na liscie wyrazal pewne obawy=
  43614. =2E
  43615. >=20
  43616. > Ja pisalem o grzaniu sie 1.3 gb i poza ta zbyt jak na moj gust wysoka
  43617. > temperatura pracy wszystko bylo okey.
  43618. > Byc moze byl to jeden z pierwszych segatow (nie z serii medalist).
  43619.  
  43620. Co do grzania si=EA twardieli to segate 2.1 UDMA jest wporzadku (troche
  43621. cieply), za to Caviar 1.2 to po prostu piecyk. Jak intensywnie chodzi
  43622. przez kilka godzin to mozna sie o niego oparzyc (nie jest niczym
  43623. zasloniety). Czy wszystkie calafiory tak sie grzeja ? (poza zbyt wysoka
  43624. temperatura to dysk jest o.k.)
  43625.  
  43626.  
  43627. Kwant.
  43628.  
  43629. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 31 19:03:39 1998
  43630. Received: from jantar.ias.wat.waw.pl (jantar.ias.wat.waw.pl [193.59.147.36]) by amiga.com.pl (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA06673 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 18:57:18 +0200 (CEST)
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  43634. From: Krzysztof Rudnik <rudnik@jantar.ias.wat.waw.pl>
  43635. To: amiga@plearn.edu.pl,
  43636.         AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi
  43637.     <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  43638. Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 18:54:52 +0100
  43639. Message-ID: <yam7394.2602.2014746136@jantar.ias.wat.waw.pl>
  43640. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  43641. Organization: IAS WAT
  43642. Subject: MicroniK scandoubler
  43643. MIME-Version: 1.0
  43644. Content-Type: text/plain
  43645.  
  43646.  
  43647. Czesc,
  43648.  
  43649. czy ktos moglby powiedziec mi (NA PRIVA) co dokladnie jest
  43650. zle w tym urzadzeniu i jak uzyskac te objawy (jesli sa 
  43651. powtarzalne). Poprosze w miare jak najdokladniej, tryby,
  43652. jaki obraz itp.
  43653.  
  43654.  
  43655. -- 
  43656. Krzysztof Rudnik     mail,finger: rudnik@jantar.ias.wat.waw.pl
  43657.                      www:   http://www.ias.wat.waw.pl/~rudnik/
  43658.     A1230T 882/50MHz 16MB, CD-ROM, HDD 1GB 
  43659.  
  43660.  
  43661. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 31 19:23:40 1998
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  43666. From: Siera <sie@friko.onet.pl>
  43667. To: amiga@plearn.edu.pl, amigapl@amiga.com.pl
  43668. Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 13:46:06 +0100
  43669. Message-ID: <yam7394.341.120303928@priv.onet.pl>
  43670. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  43671. Subject: INFOSYSTEM 98
  43672. MIME-Version: 1.0
  43673. Content-Type: text/plain
  43674.  
  43675. Hi,
  43676.  Kto przyjezdza na Targi do Poznania i w
  43677. jakim dniu. Bo tam tez sie mozemy spotkac jesli bedzie troche ludzi w jeden
  43678. dzien???
  43679. Co wy na to 
  43680.  
  43681. Pozdrawiam
  43682.       _____ _ _____ _____________
  43683.      |     | |     |     \       |    
  43684.      |   --| |  ---|  O   |   |  |    
  43685.      |     | |     |     /       |     
  43686.      |---  | |  ---|  _  \    |  |    
  43687.      |_____|_|_____|_| \__\___|__|
  43688.  
  43689.      A4000/040/25MHz/16Mb/545Mb/CV64
  43690.      mailto: sie@priv.onet.pl
  43691.      priv.onet.pl/po/sie/ 
  43692.      Strona o Poznaniu !!!
  43693.  
  43694. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 31 19:24:02 1998
  43695. Received: from rose.man.poznan.pl (root@rose.man.poznan.pl [150.254.173.3]) by amiga.com.pl (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA06729 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 19:21:50 +0200 (CEST)
  43696. Received: from au.poznan.pl (owl.au.poznan.pl [150.254.162.136])
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  43698.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 19:20:36 +0100 (MET)
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  43700.     id AA17673; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 19:20:50 +0200
  43701. From: Roger Kolomlocki <roger@owl.au.poznan.pl>
  43702. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  43703. Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 19:21:27 +0100
  43704. Message-Id: <yam7393.1380.1749797808@owl.au.poznan.pl>
  43705. In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.3.95.980330000820.4727A-100000@student>
  43706. X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview3 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
  43707. Subject: Re: seagate
  43708. Mime-Version: 1.0
  43709. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  43710. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  43711.  
  43712. Dnia 29-Mar-98, Grzegorz Junka napisa=B3:
  43713.  
  43714. > Czy mial ktos jakiejs niemile przejscia z Seagateami 1.1,1.3 lub 1.6GB?=
  43715.  
  43716. > Zastanawiam sie nad dyskiem ok. 1.3 Seagate lub Caviar. Poniewaz Caviar=
  43717. a
  43718. > mam, interesuja mnie doswiadczenia seagateowcow.
  43719.  
  43720. Kumpel ma Seagate'a 1.6Gb i dzia=B3a b.dobrze. Pod=B3=B1cza=B3em go razem=
  43721.  z moim
  43722. Connerem 1.2 i nie bylo najmniejszych problem=F3w. Osobi=B6cie mia=B3em (=
  43723. mam)
  43724. Seagate'a 256Mb i chyba nic im nie mo=BFna zarzuci=E6. Jedn=B1 z zalet Se=
  43725. agate'a
  43726. jest to, =BFe dyski rozkr=EAcaj=B1 si=EA szybko po w=B3=B1czeniu Ami czeg=
  43727. o niestety m=F3j
  43728. Conner nie potrafi.
  43729.  
  43730. Pozdrawiam
  43731. -- =
  43732.  
  43733.               ___      =
  43734.  
  43735.      ___     /  /      =
  43736.  
  43737.      \  \RoGeR /        =
  43738.  
  43739. /roger@owl.au.poznan.pl/
  43740.     A1230T/16/1.2Gb
  43741.         \___/
  43742.  
  43743. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 31 19:24:09 1998
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  43747.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 19:05:17 +0200 (METDST)
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  43750.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 19:05:03 GMT
  43751. From: Tomasz Muszynski <thom@union.org.pl>
  43752. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  43753. Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 18:33:15 +0100
  43754. Message-ID: <yam7394.771.123111800@mail.union.org.pl>
  43755. In-Reply-To: <19980331114841.55996@plukwa.pdi.net>
  43756. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  43757. Organization: Union WHQ
  43758. Subject: Re: DEV - SasPPC
  43759. MIME-Version: 1.0
  43760. Content-Type: text/plain
  43761.  
  43762. On 31-Mar-98, Artur Pietruk wrote:
  43763. > Nigdzie w sposob jawny nie wywoluje #pragma, kod kompiluje sie ok
  43764. > na m68k. Poza bibliotekami dos,exec,intuition korzystam z cgfx.library,
  43765. > pakiet dla developerow V3 (teraz jest juz v4, moze to ma jakis zwiazek z
  43766. > moim problemem). Czy tez moze zle zainstalowalem includy od powerupa, badz
  43767. > zle spatchowalem sasa?
  43768.  
  43769. Pewnie uzywasz inkludow przeznaczonych dla 68k. Zapewne beda to inkludy dla
  43770. cybergraphxa.
  43771.  
  43772. Wszystkie pragmy znajduja sie w katalogu pragmas.
  43773.  
  43774. -- 
  43775.  
  43776.     // Tomasz Muszynski (Thom/Union) | mailto:thom@union.org.pl        //
  43777. \\ // C programmer on AMIGA and PC   | http://www.union.org.pl/thom/  //
  43778.  \// Using: A4000/040@25/18MB/EGS/Ariadne, P166/32MB, P166/16MB, Mac //
  43779.     ----------------- Author of GadToolsBox v3 -----------------------
  43780.  
  43781. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 31 19:24:19 1998
  43782. Received: from rose.man.poznan.pl (root@rose.man.poznan.pl [150.254.173.3]) by amiga.com.pl (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA06730 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 19:21:51 +0200 (CEST)
  43783. Received: from au.poznan.pl (owl.au.poznan.pl [150.254.162.136])
  43784.     by rose.man.poznan.pl (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA09798
  43785.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 19:20:37 +0100 (MET)
  43786. Received: from pppa54.poznan.tpnet.pl by au.poznan.pl (5.x/SMI-SVR4)
  43787.     id AB17673; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 19:20:52 +0200
  43788. From: Roger Kolomlocki <roger@owl.au.poznan.pl>
  43789. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  43790. Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 18:19:11 +0100
  43791. Message-Id: <yam7394.555.1747958008@owl.au.poznan.pl>
  43792. In-Reply-To: <199803301514.PAA22686@www.kki.net.pl>
  43793. X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview3 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
  43794. Subject: Re: Odp: CD-ROM
  43795. Mime-Version: 1.0
  43796. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  43797. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  43798.  
  43799.     Dzi=EAki wszystkim za odpowied=BC. W ko=F1cu zdecydwa=B3em si=EA na T=
  43800. oshib=EA XM-6102B
  43801. czyli 24x a to tylko dlatego, =BFe wolniejszych brak lub je=B6li s=B1 to =
  43802. ma=B3o znane
  43803. lub u=BFywane. Uparcie si=EA rozgl=B1daj=B1c na gie=B3dzie s=B1 i SCSI (n=
  43804. ajta=F1sze 520 z=B3
  43805. za 24x). Ale do rzeczy:
  43806. 1. Pr=F3bowa=B3em zgrywa=E6 tracki z cd.device i przez Asima - dzia=B3a! =
  43807. Nie rozumiem
  43808. jednak dlaczego nawet z ww device'em OptyCDPlayer nie chce samplowa=E6. P=
  43809. rzy
  43810. w=B3=B1czonym Trybie tolerancyjnym co=B6 zapisuje, ale s=B1 to same trzas=
  43811. ki (z AHI
  43812. te=BF). Natomiast z atapi.device nic nie mo=BFna samplowa=E6. Mo=BFe jest=
  43813. em wybredny,
  43814. ale program ten wydaje si=EA by=E6 najwygodniejszy do tego celu.
  43815.  
  43816. 2. W kt=F3rym=B6 z MA widzia=B3em w ofercie Mikronika za=B6lepk=EA na tyl=
  43817. ni=B1 =B6ciank=EA
  43818. Infinitiva z dwoma wyj=B6ciami chinch do pod=B3=B1czenia d=BCwi=EAku z CD=
  43819. -ROM'u. Czy
  43820. kto=B6 mo=BFe orientuje si=EA czy w komplecie jest tak=BFe kabelek lub co=
  43821. =B6 takiego ma
  43822. i wie jak to wygl=B1da z pod=B3=B1czeniem.
  43823.  
  43824. 3. Czy istnieje co=B6 takiego jak player, kt=F3ry odtwarza d=BCwi=EAk z C=
  43825. D przez IDE.
  43826. MakeCD ma tak=B1 mo=BFliwo=B6=E6 do ods=B3uchiwania materia=B3u przeznacz=
  43827. onego do
  43828. nagrywania. Wbrew pozorom d=BCwi=EAk jest dobrej jako=B6ci.
  43829.  
  43830. Pozdrawiam
  43831. -- =
  43832.  
  43833.               ___      =
  43834.  
  43835.      ___     /  /      =
  43836.  
  43837.      \  \RoGeR /        =
  43838.  
  43839. /roger@owl.au.poznan.pl/
  43840.     A1230T/16/1.2Gb
  43841.         \___/
  43842.  
  43843. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 31 19:43:40 1998
  43844. Received: from merkury.piotrkow.tpsa.pl (merkury.piotrkow.tpsa.pl [194.204.159.4]) by amiga.com.pl (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA06770 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 19:32:16 +0200 (CEST)
  43845. Received: from friko2.onet.pl (root@ppp-cen183.czestochowa.tpnet.pl [194.204.180.183])
  43846.     by merkury.piotrkow.tpsa.pl (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA03516
  43847.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 19:31:52 +0200 (MET DST)
  43848. From: Tomasz =?iso-8859-1?Q?G=F3rniak?= <gal01@friko2.onet.pl>
  43849. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  43850. Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 18:27:59 +0100
  43851. Message-ID: <yam7394.2994.32593064@www.tpnet.pl>
  43852. In-Reply-To: <yam7393.1839.3300688@box43.gnet.pl>
  43853. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  43854. Subject: Re: Stacja HD a E/BOX
  43855. MIME-Version: 1.0
  43856. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
  43857. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  43858.  
  43859. Dnia 30-Mar-98, Irek napisa=EE:
  43860. >Dnia 27-Mar-98, Tomasz G=F3rniak napisa=EE:
  43861. >Hej!
  43862.  
  43863. >>chce czyta=EA i formatowa=EA dyskietek HD (chyba, =FBe stoi obok obudow=
  43864. y, wtedy
  43865. >>wszystko jest w porz=E2dku).
  43866. >Ja kiedy=F4 mia=EEem co=F4 podobnego. Sprawd=FA co=F4 takiego: czy po pr=
  43867. zykr=EBceniu
  43868. >stacji do obudowy nie robi si=EB zwora (ma=EEoprawdopodobne), a u mnie b=
  43869. y=EEo
  43870. >tak, =FBe po przykr=EBceniu stacji, te=FB nie chcia=EEa chodzi=EA - prob=
  43871. lem - za
  43872. >mocne przykr=EBcenie stacji do obudowy :))) (mo=FBe to jest to, a jak ni=
  43873. e
  43874. >to nie wiem :)
  43875.  
  43876. Na lu=FAno przykr=EBconej stacji jest to samo
  43877. -- =
  43878.  
  43879. Tomasz G=F3rniak
  43880.  
  43881. A1200 Apollo 1240 25 Mhz 8Mb
  43882. E/BOX 2,1 GB HDD CD-ROM 12x
  43883.  
  43884. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 31 20:03:39 1998
  43885. Received: from kiux.man.radom.pl (kiux.man.radom.pl [194.181.239.5]) by amiga.com.pl (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA06884 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 19:59:30 +0200 (CEST)
  43886. Message-Id: <199803311759.TAA06884@amiga.com.pl>
  43887. Received: from s12k6.man.radom.pl ([194.181.239.36]) by kiux.man.radom.pl with ESMTP
  43888.     (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA141787050; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 19:57:30 +0200
  43889. From: "kiux.man.radom.pl" <miko@kiux.man.radom.pl>
  43890. To: <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  43891. Subject: A500 - czarne tlo pod WB
  43892. Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 19:58:01 +0200
  43893. X-Msmail-Priority: Normal
  43894. X-Priority: 3
  43895. X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155
  43896. Mime-Version: 1.0
  43897. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2
  43898. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  43899.  
  43900. Sorry, ze pytam o taka blachostke. Mam kumpla 500-kowicza, ktory ciagle
  43901. morduje mnie o programik dajacy efekt w postaci czarnego tla wokol WB.
  43902. Widzial on bowiem u mnie jak to robi MCP i chcialby na swojej "maszynie"
  43903. osiagnac podobny efekt. Ja niestety nie znam nazwy programu ktory =
  43904. robilby
  43905. to na A500. Jego "konfig" to A500 + 1MB RAM'u KICK 1.3
  43906.  
  43907. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 31 20:43:44 1998
  43908. Received: from imagent.inet.com.pl (imagent.inet.com.pl [195.116.59.5]) by amiga.com.pl (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA06993 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 20:31:54 +0200 (CEST)
  43909. Received: from inet.com.pl ([195.116.59.72]) by imagent.inet.com.pl
  43910.           (post.office MTA v2.0 0813 ID# 0-11865) with SMTP id AAA331;
  43911.           Tue, 31 Mar 1998 20:34:33 +0200
  43912. From: Patryk =?iso-8859-2?Q?=A3ogiewa?= <silverdr@inet.com.pl>
  43913. To: amigapl@amiga.com.pl, AMIGA@PLEARN.EDU.PL, machin16@mail.it.com.pl,
  43914.         madbart@opnt.optimus.wroc.pl
  43915. Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 20:29:21 MET-1MEST,M3.5.
  43916. Message-ID: <yam7394.1078.139404136@195.116.59.5>
  43917. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  43918. Organization: W.F.M.H.
  43919. Subject: Karta 3640 w Amidze 3000 - WAZNE.
  43920. MIME-Version: 1.0
  43921. X-ISO-CONVERTED: Yam_ISO2 1.06 (17.11.97) (c) Silver Dream !
  43922. X-YAMISO-UPDATE: ftp://wfmh.org.pl/pub/yam_iso2/
  43923. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  43924. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  43925.  
  43926. W zwi=B1zku z niedawnym tematem kart A3640 obieca=B3em wr=F3ci=E6 po spra=
  43927. wdzeniu
  43928. dodatkowych szczeg=F3=B3=F3w.
  43929.  
  43930.  
  43931. >Karta A3640 zostala zaprojektowana, mimo nazwy, do Amigi 4000, a nie
  43932. >3000. Praktycznie w zadnej 3000czce karta nie zadziala, z wyjatkiem
  43933. >A3000T, gdzie sa nowe wersje pewnych chipow, ktorych karta
  43934. >potrzebuje do dzialania. Dlatego np. w A3000T SilverDreama karta
  43935. >dziala i SilverDreamowi wydaje sie ze zadziala gdzie indziej i daje
  43936. >ludziom falszywe informacje ze wystarczy zmienic kickstart i
  43937. >przestawic zworki. Niestety tak nie jest.
  43938.  
  43939. To ju=BF omawia=B3em poprzednio...
  43940.  
  43941. >Po pierwsze. Sa trzy wersje (revision) kart 3640. Z A3000 nie ma szans
  43942. >dzialac rev.0, ma niewielkie szanse rev.1 i najwieksze szanse sa przy
  43943. >rev.2. Od tego trzeba zaczac - spytac, czy osoba ktora nam chce
  43944. >sprzedac te karte ma odpowiedni revision.
  43945.  
  43946. Karta jest w wersji 3.1. (jak rozumiem - rev.1)
  43947.  
  43948. >Po drugie. Przed kupieniem A3640 otworzcie swoje A3000. Znajdzcie chipy
  43949. >nazwane Ramsey i DMAC. Sa gdzies z przodu, oba kwadratowe.
  43950. >Odpowiedzialne sa one bodajze za jakies elementy zarzadzania
  43951. >pamiecia, ale nie jestem pewien, z reszta to niewazne. Popatrzcie
  43952. >na ich wersje. Jesli nie macie Ramsey V7 i DMAC V4 - zapomnijcie.
  43953. >A3640 nie zadziala pod zadnym pozorem.
  43954.  
  43955. Oznaczenia, kt=F3re sprawdzi=B3em ostatnio:
  43956. - 390537-02 SUPER DMAC (jak rozumiem V2)
  43957. - 390541-04 RAMSEY (jak rozumiem V4)
  43958.  
  43959.  
  43960. A gdyby=B6cie chcieli na tej nie dzia=B3aj=B1cej pod =BFadnym pozorem :-)=
  43961.  (to
  43962. tylko u=B6mieszek! =BFadna z=B3o=B6liwo=B6=E6!) Amidze, za=B3o=BFy=E6 sob=
  43963. ie swoje AMIGOWE
  43964. KONTO INTERNETOWE, to zapraszam na
  43965.  
  43966. http://amiga.org.pl/
  43967.  
  43968. Pozdrowionka.
  43969.  
  43970. P.S. Rewizje uk=B3ad=F3w sprawdzi=B3em przy okazji rozbudowy RAMu i zmian=
  43971. y
  43972. dysku. Ze wzgl=EAdu na pierwsze wp=B3aty za konta, mogli=B6my w ko=F1cu t=
  43973. o
  43974. zrobi=E6. W zwi=B1zku z tym w ostatni=B1 niedziel=EA przez kilka godzin t=
  43975. a A3000
  43976. (desktop) faktycznie nie dzia=B3a=B3a...
  43977.  
  43978. -- =
  43979.  
  43980.       / /
  43981.      / /
  43982.     / /  silverdr@wfmh.org.pl
  43983. \ \/ /
  43984.  \/\/
  43985.  
  43986. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 31 21:23:40 1998
  43987. Received: from www.kki.net.pl (www.kki.net.pl [195.116.9.70]) by amiga.com.pl (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA07106 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 21:10:21 +0200 (CEST)
  43988. Received: from kki.net.pl (STEAD@pmone252.lodz.pdi.net [195.116.162.252])
  43989.     by www.kki.net.pl (8.8.8/8.8.8.ver6) with SMTP id VAA01514
  43990.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 21:09:51 GMT
  43991. From: Stefan Koralweski <stead@kki.net.pl>
  43992. Reply-To: stead@kki.net.pl
  43993. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  43994. Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 20:04:33 -0500
  43995. Message-ID: <yam7394.1699.1745876976@kki.net.pl>
  43996. In-Reply-To: <yam7392.16.137148320@friko.onet.pl>
  43997. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  43998. Organization: stead
  43999. Subject: Re: CD-ROM
  44000. MIME-Version: 1.0
  44001. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
  44002. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  44003.  
  44004. Dnia 29-Mar-98, Micha=EE Bujak napisa=EE:
  44005. >Dnia 27-Mar-98, Grzegorz Kraszewski napisa=EE:
  44006.  
  44007. >>> Jaki CD-ROM ma na 100% mo=BFliwo=B6=E6 zgrywania track=F3w z p=B3ytki=
  44008. ?  =
  44009.  
  44010. >A udalo sie komus z Philipsem x8 ???
  44011. Tak, przeciez ma readcdda.
  44012.  
  44013. Pozdrawiam STEad
  44014.  
  44015. ------------------------------------------------
  44016.      _  steAD-Adam Tynenski   A-12oo/o3o/5o/32Mb
  44017.     // stead@lodz.pdi.net     CDR/4.8Gb Hdd/SCSI
  44018. _  // STEad-Stefan Koralewski M1538s/HDFlop/28.8
  44019. \\// stead@kki.net.pl
  44020.  ""=
  44021.  
  44022. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 31 21:23:48 1998
  44023. Received: from www.kki.net.pl (www.kki.net.pl [195.116.9.70]) by amiga.com.pl (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA07109 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 21:10:29 +0200 (CEST)
  44024. Received: from kki.net.pl (STEAD@pmone252.lodz.pdi.net [195.116.162.252])
  44025.     by www.kki.net.pl (8.8.8/8.8.8.ver6) with SMTP id VAA01553
  44026.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 21:09:58 GMT
  44027. From: Stefan Koralweski <stead@kki.net.pl>
  44028. Reply-To: stead@kki.net.pl
  44029. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  44030. Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 20:13:42 -0500
  44031. Message-ID: <yam7394.2101.1745876976@kki.net.pl>
  44032. In-Reply-To: <3520AAAC.4FFC@polbox.com>
  44033. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  44034. Organization: stead
  44035. Subject: Re: MAME
  44036. MIME-Version: 1.0
  44037. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
  44038. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  44039.  
  44040. Dnia 31-Mar-98, Juha napisa=EE:
  44041.  
  44042. >uslyszalem ze istnieje cos takiego TURBO MAME chodzi podobno bardzo
  44043. >szybko. Jezeli ktos cos wie o tym skad to mozna sciagnac (bo na aminecie=
  44044.  
  44045. >nie ma) to prosze o kontakt.
  44046.  
  44047. Natomiast ja s=EEysza=EEem, =FBe turbomame dzia=EEa bardzo szybko, pod wa=
  44048. runkiem =FBe
  44049. masz ppc.
  44050.  
  44051. Pozdrawiam STEad
  44052.  
  44053. ------------------------------------------------
  44054.      _  steAD-Adam Tynenski   A-12oo/o3o/5o/32Mb
  44055.     // stead@lodz.pdi.net     CDR/4.8Gb Hdd/SCSI
  44056. _  // STEad-Stefan Koralewski M1538s/HDFlop/28.8
  44057. \\// stead@kki.net.pl
  44058.  ""=
  44059.  
  44060. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 31 21:24:00 1998
  44061. Received: from orka.szczecin.tpnet.pl (orka.szczecin.tpnet.pl [194.204.141.12]) by amiga.com.pl (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA07124 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 21:16:17 +0200 (CEST)
  44062. Received: from amiga.org.pl ([194.204.141.182]) by orka.szczecin.tpnet.pl
  44063.           (Netscape Messaging Server 3.0)  with SMTP id AAB2932
  44064.           for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 21:16:05 +0200
  44065. From: Krzysztof Michalski <karol@amiga.org.pl>
  44066. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  44067. Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 00:54:43 +0100
  44068. Message-ID: <yam7394.2173.18439328@www.szczecin.tpnet.pl>
  44069. In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.3.95.980330000820.4727A-100000@student>
  44070. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  44071. Subject: Re: seagate
  44072. MIME-Version: 1.0
  44073. X-ISO-CONVERTED: Yam_ISO2 1.06 (17.11.97) (c) Silver Dream !
  44074. X-YAMISO-UPDATE: ftp://wfmh.org.pl/pub/yam_iso2/
  44075. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
  44076. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  44077.  
  44078. On 29-Mar-98, Grzegorz Junka wrote:
  44079.  
  44080. >Czy mial ktos jakiejs niemile przejscia z Seagateami 1.1,1.3 lub 1.6GB?
  44081. >Zastanawiam sie nad dyskiem ok. 1.3 Seagate lub Caviar. Poniewaz Caviara=
  44082.  
  44083. >mam, interesuja mnie doswiadczenia seagateowcow.
  44084.  
  44085. U=BFywa=B3em jednocze=B6nie dw=F3ch dysk=F3w Segate: 1.3 i 1.6. =AFadnych=
  44086.  
  44087. problem=F3w nie by=B3o.
  44088. =A3=B1cz=EA si=EA u kolegi z dyskami Quantum (1,28 i 0.85 MB) i te=BF bez=
  44089.  uwag.
  44090. Jednak Segate 1.6 bardzo wolno startuje (dodatkowy reset). Pr=EAdko=B6ci
  44091. oko=B3o 1.3 MB/s przy korzystaniu z IdeFx - program ten pono=E6 nieco
  44092. HD zwalnia.
  44093. -- =
  44094.  
  44095.            *Pozdrawiam !*
  44096.                        /Krzysztof Michalski/
  44097.                        #--------------------#
  44098.                     mailto: *karol@amiga.org.pl*
  44099. --
  44100.  
  44101. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 31 21:24:08 1998
  44102. Received: from www.kki.net.pl (www.kki.net.pl [195.116.9.70]) by amiga.com.pl (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA07110 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 21:10:29 +0200 (CEST)
  44103. Received: from kki.net.pl (STEAD@pmone252.lodz.pdi.net [195.116.162.252])
  44104.     by www.kki.net.pl (8.8.8/8.8.8.ver6) with SMTP id VAA01533
  44105.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 21:09:55 GMT
  44106. From: Stefan Koralweski <stead@kki.net.pl>
  44107. Reply-To: stead@kki.net.pl
  44108. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  44109. Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 20:10:21 -0500
  44110. Message-ID: <yam7394.1090.1745876976@kki.net.pl>
  44111. In-Reply-To: <yam7393.1929.2015087872@priv.onet.pl>
  44112. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  44113. Organization: stead
  44114. Subject: Re: seagate
  44115. MIME-Version: 1.0
  44116. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
  44117. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  44118.  
  44119. Dnia 30-Mar-98, Robert Nowak napisa=EE:
  44120.  
  44121. >> Czy mial ktos jakiejs niemile przejscia z Seagateami 1.1,1.3 lub 1.6GB=
  44122. ?
  44123. >> Zastanawiam sie nad dyskiem ok. 1.3 Seagate lub Caviar. Poniewaz Cavia=
  44124. ra
  44125. >> mam, interesuja mnie doswiadczenia seagateowcow.
  44126.  
  44127. Montowa=EEem zarowno w Ami jak i w pece dyski seagate IDE - 1080 Kb, 1280=
  44128.  Kb,
  44129. 1.7 Gb 2.5 Gb =
  44130.  
  44131. i 3.2 Gb - no problems. Zar=F3wno w pracy jak i w =EE=E2czeniu z innymi t=
  44132. wardymi.
  44133. U=FBywam aktualnie m.in 1080 Kb SCSI Seagate - r=F3wnie=FB no problems.  =
  44134.  
  44135. Przymierzam si=EB do zakupu ponad 4 GB (to chyba jest 4.3 Gb) Nie s=E2dz=EB=
  44136. , by
  44137. sprawi=EE jakiekolwiek =
  44138.  
  44139. k=EEopoty
  44140.  
  44141. Pozdrawiam           STEad
  44142.  
  44143. ------------------------------------------------
  44144.      _  steAD-Adam Tynenski   A-12oo/o3o/5o/32Mb
  44145.     // stead@lodz.pdi.net     CDR/4.8Gb Hdd/SCSI
  44146. _  // STEad-Stefan Koralewski M1538s/HDFlop/28.8
  44147. \\// stead@kki.net.pl
  44148.  ""=
  44149.  
  44150. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 31 21:24:15 1998
  44151. Received: from www.kki.net.pl (www.kki.net.pl [195.116.9.70]) by amiga.com.pl (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA07115 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 21:10:41 +0200 (CEST)
  44152. Received: from kki.net.pl (STEAD@pmone252.lodz.pdi.net [195.116.162.252])
  44153.     by www.kki.net.pl (8.8.8/8.8.8.ver6) with SMTP id VAA01596
  44154.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 21:10:07 GMT
  44155. From: Stefan Koralweski <stead@kki.net.pl>
  44156. Reply-To: stead@kki.net.pl
  44157. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  44158. Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 20:31:17 -0500
  44159. Message-ID: <yam7394.890.1745876976@kki.net.pl>
  44160. In-Reply-To: <199803311327.PAA12531@anna.swk.med.pl>
  44161. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  44162. Organization: stead
  44163. Subject: Re: Odp: Kupno CDR
  44164. MIME-Version: 1.0
  44165. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
  44166. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  44167.  
  44168. Dnia 31-Mar-98, Adam Kamierski napisa=EE:
  44169.  =
  44170.  
  44171. >>   Moj znajomy pytal mnie o to czy warto kupic nagrywarke CDD 2600
  44172. >> Philipsa uzywana namietnie za 1000pln wliczajac kontroler scsi. Jakis =
  44173. czas
  44174. >> temu byla o tym dyskusja ale niestety nie mam tamtego listu w archiwum=
  44175. =2E
  44176.  
  44177. >Juz kawal czasu uzywam tej nagrywarki i musze stwierdzic ze jest w porza=
  44178. dku.
  44179. >Oczywiscie jak sie ma odpowiednie oprogramowanie ...
  44180.  
  44181.  
  44182. >Adam "ExploRa" Kazmierski / COLOR7
  44183.  
  44184. Musz=EB przyzna=EA, =FBe masz szcz=EB=F4cie. Trafi=EEe=F4 na niez=EEy egz=
  44185. emplarz tej
  44186. nagrywarki. Inni mieli mniej szcz=EB=F4cia...
  44187. I jeszcze mo=FBe jedno pytanie:
  44188. Ile p=EEytek nagra=EEe=F4 na tym Philipsie ?
  44189. Ja ko=EEo 400 i zaliczy=EEa death... A oprogramowanie chyba by=EEo dobre.=
  44190.  
  44191.  
  44192. Pozdrawiam             STEad - legal user of MakeCD 3.1
  44193.  
  44194.  
  44195. ------------------------------------------------
  44196.      _  steAD-Adam Tynenski   A-12oo/o3o/5o/32Mb
  44197.     // stead@lodz.pdi.net     CDR/4.8Gb Hdd/SCSI
  44198. _  // STEad-Stefan Koralewski M1538s/HDFlop/28.8
  44199. \\// stead@kki.net.pl
  44200.  ""=
  44201.  
  44202. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 31 21:24:23 1998
  44203. Received: from www.kki.net.pl (www.kki.net.pl [195.116.9.70]) by amiga.com.pl (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA07116 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 21:10:43 +0200 (CEST)
  44204. Received: from kki.net.pl (STEAD@pmone252.lodz.pdi.net [195.116.162.252])
  44205.     by www.kki.net.pl (8.8.8/8.8.8.ver6) with SMTP id VAA01619
  44206.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 21:10:11 GMT
  44207. From: Stefan Koralweski <stead@kki.net.pl>
  44208. Reply-To: stead@kki.net.pl
  44209. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  44210. Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 20:34:58 -0500
  44211. Message-ID: <yam7394.2930.1745876976@kki.net.pl>
  44212. In-Reply-To: <199803311327.PAA12528@anna.swk.med.pl>
  44213. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  44214. Organization: stead
  44215. Subject: Re: Odp: Multisession CD & ISOimage
  44216. MIME-Version: 1.0
  44217. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
  44218. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  44219.  
  44220. Dnia 31-Mar-98, Adam Kamierski napisa=EE:
  44221. >----------
  44222. >> Od: Darek Kleina <AMIGA@SOFT-EKS.COM.PL>
  44223. > Temat: Multisession CD & ISOimage
  44224.  
  44225.  Czy doplyty zgranej jako ISO mozna =
  44226.  
  44227. >> pozniej dogrywac kolejne jej czesci ? (np.kolejne iso czy moze =
  44228.  
  44229. >> przewalac to plikami) Problem polega na tym, ze g95 ma problemy z =
  44230.  
  44231. >> plikami ktore nazywaja sie np. od "+" czy "|" i nie ma mozliwosci =
  44232.  
  44233. >> przeniesc ich inaczej niz jako ISO.
  44234.  
  44235. >Jezeli bedziesz nagrywal plytke na "grzybie" to najlepiej w tzw.
  44236. MULTISESSION.
  44237. >Daje to taka mozliwosc ze kolejne ISO zostanie dodane do istniejacego (j=
  44238. ako
  44239. >druga sesja).
  44240. >Oczywiscie pliki beda dodane do tych katalogow, ktore robiles wczesniej
  44241. >(oczywiscie jak je tam poslesz tzn. do tych katalogow) poza tym trzeba
  44242. >wiedziec na jakim programie bedzie nagrana ... nie wszyscy maja na grzyb=
  44243. ie
  44244. >oryginalne progsy, a jedynie shareware'y ...
  44245. >Co moze spowodowac jakies bledy w nagrywaniu amigowego ISO ...
  44246.  
  44247. Przy=EEaczam si=EB do tej rady. Uwa=FBaj jedynie na to, by=F4 dogrywa=EE =
  44248. najlepiej u
  44249. tego samego gostka,
  44250. lub chocia=FB tym samym programem. Nie wszystkie progzy chca zako=EFczy=EA=
  44251.  p=EEyty,
  44252. nagrywane innym
  44253. sofcikiem
  44254.  
  44255. Pozdrawiam            STEad
  44256.  
  44257.  
  44258. ------------------------------------------------
  44259.      _  steAD-Adam Tynenski   A-12oo/o3o/5o/32Mb
  44260.     // stead@lodz.pdi.net     CDR/4.8Gb Hdd/SCSI
  44261. _  // STEad-Stefan Koralewski M1538s/HDFlop/28.8
  44262. \\// stead@kki.net.pl
  44263.  ""=
  44264.  
  44265. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 31 21:24:31 1998
  44266. Received: from server.fiber.net.pl (server.fiber.net.pl [195.117.208.101]) by amiga.com.pl (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA07120 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 21:12:51 +0200 (CEST)
  44267. Received: from www.kki.net.pl ([195.116.9.70]) by server.fiber.net.pl
  44268.           (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with ESMTP id AAA3225
  44269.           for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 20:12:35 +0100
  44270. Received: from kki.net.pl (STEAD@pmone252.lodz.pdi.net [195.116.162.252])
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  44272.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 21:10:14 GMT
  44273. From: Stefan Koralweski <stead@kki.net.pl>
  44274. Reply-To: stead@kki.net.pl
  44275. To: amigapl@amiga.com.pl
  44276. Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 20:47:24 -0500
  44277. Message-ID: <yam7394.1224.1745876976@kki.net.pl>
  44278. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  44279. Organization: stead
  44280. Subject: CD i tracki
  44281. MIME-Version: 1.0
  44282. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
  44283. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  44284.  
  44285.  
  44286. Ja w sprawie tych CDRom=F3w, co to nie chc=E2, lub chc=E2 zgrywac tracki =
  44287. muzyczne.
  44288. Pomys=EE z utworzeniem spisu jest nieg=EEupi. Zawsze warto miec go pod r=EB=
  44289. k=E2.
  44290. Nie ka=FBdy sprzedaj=E2cy wie czy taki CDRom ma opcj=EB READ CDDA.
  44291.  
  44292. I w tym jest w=EEa=F4nie ca=EEy problem !!!
  44293. Je=F4li kupujecie nowy zapytajcie o t=EB opcj=EB sprzedawcy. Coraz wi=EBc=
  44294. ej grzybiarzy
  44295. r=F3wnie=FB
  44296. pyta si=EB o READ CDDA (potrzebne jest im to chocia=FBby do zrzucenia tra=
  44297. ck=F3w na
  44298. HD przed =
  44299.  
  44300. konwersja na mp3, a wpadli juz na to, =FBe zrzucanie przez kart=EB zaszum=
  44301. ia
  44302. sampla)
  44303. Dlatego je=F4li sprzedawca nie wie o co chodzi, dajcie sobie z nim spok=F3=
  44304. j. Ten
  44305. pan widocznie
  44306. umie dopiero "bezpiecznie wy=EE=E2czyc komputer" :))). W niczym wam nie p=
  44307. omo=FBe.
  44308. Poszukajcie
  44309. kogo=F4 bardziej kompetentnego.
  44310. Inna sprawa jest w momencie, gdy kupujemy u=FBywany. =
  44311.  
  44312. Tutaj przyda=EEa by si=EB taka lista.
  44313. Oto m=F3j pocz=E2tek: (nie pamietam wszystkich wi=EBc pisz=EB tylko o tyc=
  44314. h, kt=F3rych
  44315. jestem pewien)
  44316. Philips x8
  44317. BTC x16 (ten kt=F3rego u=FBywa=EEem mia=EE READ CDDA, ale    UWAGA -podob=
  44318. no nie
  44319. wszystkie modele
  44320.               BTC x 16 to maj=E2)
  44321. CreativeLabs x16
  44322. CreativeLabs x24
  44323. wszystkie nagrywarki =
  44324.  
  44325.  
  44326. Pozdrawiam             STEad
  44327.  
  44328. ------------------------------------------------
  44329.      _  steAD-Adam Tynenski   A-12oo/o3o/5o/32Mb
  44330.     // stead@lodz.pdi.net     CDR/4.8Gb Hdd/SCSI
  44331. _  // STEad-Stefan Koralewski M1538s/HDFlop/28.8
  44332. \\// stead@kki.net.pl
  44333.  ""=
  44334.  
  44335. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 31 21:24:38 1998
  44336. Received: from www.kki.net.pl (www.kki.net.pl [195.116.9.70]) by amiga.com.pl (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA07112 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 21:10:32 +0200 (CEST)
  44337. Received: from kki.net.pl (STEAD@pmone252.lodz.pdi.net [195.116.162.252])
  44338.     by www.kki.net.pl (8.8.8/8.8.8.ver6) with SMTP id VAA01582
  44339.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 21:10:04 GMT
  44340. From: Stefan Koralweski <stead@kki.net.pl>
  44341. Reply-To: stead@kki.net.pl
  44342. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  44343. Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 20:25:24 -0500
  44344. Message-ID: <yam7394.1205.1745876976@kki.net.pl>
  44345. In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.3.96.980331110958.1124A-100000@cksr>
  44346. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  44347. Organization: stead
  44348. Subject: Re: Kupno CDR
  44349. MIME-Version: 1.0
  44350. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
  44351. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  44352.  
  44353. Dnia 31-Mar-98, Marcin Juszkiewicz (Szczepan/BlaBla) napisa=EE:
  44354.  
  44355.  
  44356. >  Moj znajomy pytal mnie o to czy warto kupic nagrywarke CDD 2600
  44357. >Philipsa uzywana namietnie za 1000pln wliczajac kontroler scsi. Jakis cz=
  44358. as
  44359. >temu byla o tym dyskusja ale niestety nie mam tamtego listu w archiwum.
  44360.  
  44361. Nagrywarka Philips 2600.
  44362. Fajna dosy=EA, ale ...
  44363. Ja mam, le=FBy w serwisie od miesi=E2ca. U=FBywana chyba zbyt nami=EBtnie=
  44364. =2E Podpi=EBta
  44365. by=EEa tylko =
  44366.  
  44367. do Amigi.
  44368. Moj kolo - grzybiarz, u=FBywa=EE jej mniej nami=EBtnie ode mnie. Pad=EEa =
  44369. w 15 miesi=E2cu
  44370. u=FBywania.
  44371. No c=F3=FB gwarancja si=EB sko=EFczy=EEa.
  44372. Trzeci z ludzi kt=F3rych znam i kt=F3rzy u=FBywali Philipsa 2600 odda=EE =
  44373. j=E2 w ramach
  44374. r=EBkojmi do sklepu.
  44375. Kupi=EE Yamahe zamiast Philipsa. =
  44376.  
  44377. Za ka=FBdym razem objawy s=E2 takie same...
  44378. Nie widzi czystych CDR, a jak ju=FB zobaczy - to przerywa nagrywanie... i=
  44379.  p=EEytka
  44380. do =F4mieci.
  44381. Mo=FBe za ca=EEy komentarz wystarczy opinia autor=F3w MakeCD (mo=FBna j=E2=
  44382.  odnale=FAc w
  44383. MakeCD-guide)
  44384. "be carefull" - pozostawiam bez komentarza...
  44385.  
  44386. PS. Philips 2600 ma problemy ze zrzucaniem track=F3w muzycznych. Zaszumia=
  44387.  je po
  44388. prostu w
  44389.  niekt=F3rych momentach. To te=FB zauwa=FByli autorzy MakeCD.
  44390. 1000 PLN z kontrolerem to nie jest jednak wyg=F3rowana cena. Ja jednak
  44391. odradza=EEbym ten zakup
  44392.  
  44393. Polecam Yamaha 100, 200, 400
  44394. (nie tylko ja :))) autorzy MakeCD te=FB...
  44395.  
  44396. Pozdrawiam          STEad - u=FBytkownik Philips 2600, na koncie jakie=F4=
  44397.  400
  44398. nagranych p=EEytek =
  44399.  
  44400.  
  44401.  
  44402. ------------------------------------------------
  44403.      _  steAD-Adam Tynenski   A-12oo/o3o/5o/32Mb
  44404.     // stead@lodz.pdi.net     CDR/4.8Gb Hdd/SCSI
  44405. _  // STEad-Stefan Koralewski M1538s/HDFlop/28.8
  44406. \\// stead@kki.net.pl
  44407.  ""=
  44408.  
  44409. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 31 22:03:42 1998
  44410. Received: from www.kki.net.pl (www.kki.net.pl [195.116.9.70]) by amiga.com.pl (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA07226 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 21:46:05 +0200 (CEST)
  44411. Received: from kki.net.pl (STEAD@pmone234.lodz.pdi.net [195.116.162.234])
  44412.     by www.kki.net.pl (8.8.8/8.8.8.ver6) with SMTP id VAA12978
  44413.     for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 21:45:31 GMT
  44414. From: Stefan Koralweski <stead@kki.net.pl>
  44415. Reply-To: stead@kki.net.pl
  44416. To: amigapl@amiga.com.pl
  44417. Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 21:41:19 -0500
  44418. Message-ID: <yam7394.973.1745883312@kki.net.pl>
  44419. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  44420. Organization: stead
  44421. Subject: Uszkodzony HD
  44422. MIME-Version: 1.0
  44423. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
  44424. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  44425.  
  44426. Mam olbrzymi=E2 pro=F4b=EB !!!
  44427.  
  44428. Kumplowi pad=EE w A3000 dysk twardy - na szcz=EB=F4cie tylko elektronika,=
  44429.  a
  44430. wla=F4ciwie to chodzi o to,
  44431. =FBe dysk si=EB nie rozp=EBdza.
  44432. Zgodnie z prawami Murphy-ego nie ma jednak tego dobrego - co by na z=EEe =
  44433. nie
  44434. wysz=EEo :(((.
  44435. Ten dysk jest dosyc unikalny. (ja te=FB mam taki, ale przecie=FB go nie r=
  44436. ozlo=FB=EB -
  44437. skoro dzia=EEa)
  44438. Wi=EBc je=FBeli kto=F4 ma taki uszkodzony dysk z dobr=E2 elektronik=E2 - =
  44439. to prosz=EB o
  44440. kontakt. Ch=EBtnie
  44441. kupimy. =
  44442.  
  44443. A oto nazwa dysku
  44444. 1080 Kb Seagate Medalist (ju=FB widz=EB u=F4mieszki, rzadko spotykany?) =
  44445.  
  44446. SCSI wersja do notebook=F3w - jest cienki i mniejszy od normalnego. =
  44447.  
  44448. To tyle
  44449.  
  44450. Pozdrawiam         STEad              stead@kki,net.pl
  44451.  
  44452. PS A moze ktos wie dlaczego dysk si=EB nie rozp=EBdza?
  44453.      I jeszcze jedno: jak zapisac sie na liste dyskusyjn=E2 ApplePL - oni=
  44454.  tez
  44455. uzywaja HD SCSI.
  44456.  
  44457. ------------------------------------------------
  44458.      _  steAD-Adam Tynenski   A-12oo/o3o/5o/32Mb
  44459.     // stead@lodz.pdi.net     CDR/4.8Gb Hdd/SCSI
  44460. _  // STEad-Stefan Koralewski M1538s/HDFlop/28.8
  44461. \\// stead@kki.net.pl
  44462.  ""=
  44463.  
  44464. From owner-amigapl  Tue Mar 31 23:03:48 1998
  44465. Received: from opnt.optimus.wroc.pl (opnt.optimus.wroc.pl [195.117.195.3]) by amiga.com.pl (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA07517 for <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 22:59:27 +0200 (CEST)
  44466. Received: from opnt.optimus.wroc.pl (unverified [195.116.164.27]) by opnt.optimus.wroc.pl
  44467.  (EMWAC SMTPRS 0.83) with SMTP id <B0000085617@opnt.optimus.wroc.pl>;
  44468.  Tue, 31 Mar 1998 22:58:14 +0200
  44469. From: Maciej Matyka <maq@opnt.optimus.wroc.pl>
  44470. To: AmigaPL - Lista uzytkownikow Amigi <amigapl@amiga.com.pl>
  44471. Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 22:35:58 +0100
  44472. Message-ID: <yam7394.2949.2014464064@opnt.optimus.wroc.pl>
  44473. In-Reply-To: <yam7394.2602.2014746136@jantar.ias.wat.waw.pl>
  44474. X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
  44475. Subject: Re: MicroniK scandoubler
  44476. MIME-Version: 1.0
  44477. Content-Type: text/plain
  44478.  
  44479. Dnia 31-Mar-98, Krzysztof Rudnik napisal(a):
  44480.  
  44481. >czy ktos moglby powiedziec mi (NA PRIVA) co dokladnie jest
  44482. >zle w tym urzadzeniu i jak uzyskac te objawy (jesli sa 
  44483. >powtarzalne). Poprosze w miare jak najdokladniej, tryby,
  44484. >jaki obraz itp.
  44485.  
  44486. Czemu na Priva? Rowniez bardzo chetnie sie czegos o nim dowiem (najlepiej od
  44487. jego uzytkownikow), i na liste prosze :)
  44488.  
  44489. -- 
  44490. MaQ                                   mail: maq@opnt.optimus.wroc.pl
  44491.                        
  44492.  
  44493.